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Lunar Chinese vehicle "Chang'e-5" began drilling and collecting lunar soil

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Lunar Chinese vehicle "Chang'e-5" began drilling and collecting lunar soil

The Chinese automatic lunar station "Chang'e-5", which made a successful landing on the lunar surface the day before, has begun drilling and collecting the lunar regolith soil. This was announced by the China National Space Corporation.


According to the report, at 04:53 on Wednesday Beijing time (23:53 Moscow time on Tuesday), the station, consisting of the landing and return modules, began drilling, collecting and packing samples of lunar soil. In the future, it is planned to collect soil from the surface. For this, the apparatus will use special automated tentacles.

In total, according to the plans of Chinese scientists, the device should collect up to 2 kg of lunar soil, which will be delivered to Earth for study. The delivered soil is planned to be studied both for scientific purposes and as part of a project to prepare for the construction of a Chinese research lunar base.

On November 28, the Chinese automatic station Chang'e-5 approached the Moon and began deceleration at an altitude of 400 km. Having entered a 200-km lunar orbit, the station separated the lander from the orbital block. On December 1, the lander successfully landed north of Rumker Peak in the region of the largest lunar sea - the Ocean of Storms - in the northwest of the visible part of the Moon.

On the surface of a natural satellite of the Earth, the device will spend two lunar days, after which it will set off on its way back. The landing of the descent vehicle with the capsule is scheduled for December 15-16 in northern China in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region.

Meanwhile, Roscosmos called the landing of the Chinese apparatus "historical event "and wished China to fully implement the program and successfully deliver the lunar soil to Earth.
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  1. MY THOUGHT
    MY THOUGHT 2 December 2020 10: 19
    +15
    Someone must drag humanity along the path of progress, we also need to harness this strap.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 2 December 2020 10: 26
      +5
      Someone is strongly against it.
      Trump signs a decree on the US right to use the resources of the moon
      The decree states that the United States does not recognize the Agreement on the Activities of States on the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies, according to which satellite research is considered the property of all mankind.

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/07/04/2020/5e8bc85a9a79473565bd61a0


      US President Donald Trump signed a decree in support of the commercial development of resources on the moon and other celestial bodies, the White House press service said.

      “Americans should have the right to conduct commercial research, production and use of resources in outer space in accordance with applicable law,” the decree says.

      At the same time, the document notes that space both legally and physically serves as “a unique space for human activity and the United States does not consider it as the public domain”, therefore, the country's policy should be aimed at “stimulating international support for the extraction and use of resources in space. "

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/07/04/2020/5e8bc85a9a79473565bd61a0
      1. Infinity
        Infinity 2 December 2020 10: 30
        +18
        hi
        For all of Humanity, as they say! drinks
        Congratulations on your successful soft landing!
        Don't care about Trump. Whoever settles on the moon will be her dance to mine wassat But objectively speaking, Americans should thank Trump for Artemis. I think history will appreciate this step. But the desire of his successor, Biden, to slow down the program a little, on the contrary, is unsuccessful.

        I will add a few materials, since the authors of the article did not do it.
        A video of the station landing has already been published. It is assembled from photographs taken by the lander during lunar landing.

        It is worth noting that it is inferior in quality to the videos that were obtained during the Chang'e-3 mission in December 2013 and the Chang'e-4 mission in January 2019. But it is quite possible that a higher quality video with a larger number of frames will be published in the future.
        In the video, you can see how, using the landing camera and artificial intelligence, the lander determines the most suitable areas for lunar landing and corrects the landing trajectory. Previous Chinese missions have also landed. This analysis began at an altitude of 2,5 km. When the module was already 100 meters from the surface, the engines stopped the descent for a short time, which made it possible to most accurately estimate the landing site, where there should be no large stones and craters.

        CNSA also released two separate photos taken by the module's landing camera.


        The second photo shows the shadow from one of the landing legs.

        It seems like the Chinese are promising new photos. They had a panoramic camera there. We wait.
        And of course, the return of at least 2 kg of soil (the whole capsule is designed for 4 kg). By very complex scheme. The lander will collect about two kilograms of samples from a depth of two meters and transfer them into a spacecraft launched into orbit, which will automatically approach and dock with the orbital module. The latter will begin a return to Earth and move the samples into a special capsule, which will be subsequently shot off, will enter the atmosphere and deliver the lunar soil to Earth without pollution. How. Our "Moon" just launched a capsule to the Earth.
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 2 December 2020 11: 05
          +1
          [quote] [According to a very complex scheme. The lander will collect about two kilograms of samples from a depth of two meters and transfer them into a spacecraft launched into orbit, which will automatically approach and dock with the orbital module. The latter will begin a return to Earth and transfer the samples to a special capsule, which will later be shot off, enter the atmosphere and deliver the lunar soil to Earth without pollution. / quote]
          Very complicated. There are too many pitfalls. If the automation works successfully such a scheme, then the designers are definitely great.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 2 December 2020 11: 59
            +23
            Quote: dzvero
            Very complicated. There are too many pitfalls. If the automation works successfully such a scheme, then the designers are definitely great.

            It's just that the Chinese have begun working out a program for the real exploration of the moon.
          2. Bersaglieri
            Bersaglieri 2 December 2020 12: 40
            +3
            No. Not "according to a very complex scheme", but simply "kill two birds with one stone": both the ALS work out, and the scheme for a manned flight (with multiple descent and ascent of the landing stage).
        2. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 2 December 2020 12: 42
          +4
          Our "Lunas" were made at the limit of the delivered PN. Well, on-board electronics 45+ years ago was much larger and heavier - by orders of magnitude.
        3. Motorist
          Motorist 3 December 2020 00: 22
          +2
          Quote: Infinity
          CNSA also released two separate photos taken by the module's landing camera.

          How many times I ask myself: the moon is gray (no!), Or is photography in the 21st century black and white?
          1. Lontus
            Lontus 3 December 2020 03: 23
            +3
            Quote: Motorist
            Quote: Infinity
            CNSA also released two separate photos taken by the module's landing camera.

            How many times I ask myself: the moon is gray (no!), Or is photography in the 21st century black and white?

            Nasarogs have a gray moon, and the Chinese have a blue one
          2. Infinity
            Infinity 3 December 2020 11: 50
            0
            Quote: Motorist
            The moon is gray (no!)

            Taki gray hi
            This is from "Chang'e-4" (since the colored parts of the modules are visible, it is obvious that these are not b / w pictures):


            Here is a new photo from Chang'e-5:
            1. Motorist
              Motorist 3 December 2020 23: 41
              +1
              Quote: Infinity
              Taki gray

              Hello! hi Well, so I say: if Arnold started acting in "Terminator", then he must go to the end. Without him - a completely different film already (remember "Terminator-4"). If the Moon is gray, then it should be gray - no matter who is filming the sequel. And it will be, as in the story "On Jupiter" (K. Simak), you see! request
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 2 December 2020 10: 34
      +9
      Quote: MY THOUGHT
      we also need to harness this strap.

      The May edicts say nothing about this.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 2 December 2020 10: 42
        +5
        This was recently expressed personally to Trauta Zhurnalistovich.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 2 December 2020 10: 53
          +7
          Quote: NDR-791
          This was recently expressed personally to Trauta Zhurnalistovich.

          He has forgotten already, he is now composing songs about Mars and tearing the firmament to shreds.
          1. Bersaglieri
            Bersaglieri 2 December 2020 13: 17
            +2
            "Shoot him out of pity" (c)
    3. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 2 December 2020 10: 49
      +5
      Where is our place in this strap among the first or the last? hi
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 2 December 2020 11: 57
        +29
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Where is our place in this strap among the first or the last?

        We are now observers.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 2 December 2020 12: 15
        -1
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Where is our place in this strap among the first or the last? hi

        We would have enough resources for our earthly affairs. Not up to galactic swings.
      3. Grits
        Grits 2 December 2020 12: 53
        +1
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Where is our place in this strap among the first or the last?

        What strap? Rogozin has long been on the sidelines. Other cars were pushed aside.
      4. Bersaglieri
        Bersaglieri 2 December 2020 15: 20
        0
        Thanks to the "songwriter" from the video, which in the previous message will soon be in the tail .. :(
      5. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 2 December 2020 15: 46
        -4
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Where is our place in this strap among the first or the last? hi

        The place of a wise monkey watching the tiger fight.
        And then we will go out all in white with our nuclear tug TEM.
        1. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 3 December 2020 12: 35
          0
          Rogozin must be removed as well other "journalists" and "innovators" without basic education - then there will be "Nuclon". Otherwise, no :(
    4. Civil
      Civil 2 December 2020 11: 13
      -2
      And where is Rogozin with the comments "It's all a Beijing-film studio," "We could also do it for NASA money," "Rascal Li is a Chinese trampoline" ...
    5. Kuz
      Kuz 2 December 2020 11: 42
      +22
      Quote: MY THOUGHT
      Someone must drag humanity along the path of progress, we also need to harness this strap

      Everyone is dragging in turn. We are now "resting" (I remembered our would-be reformers in the economy and education am )
    6. stalki
      stalki 2 December 2020 12: 06
      +1
      Someone must drag humanity along the path of progress, we also need to harness this strap.
      More precisely, we need to return to this strap.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 2 December 2020 19: 52
        +1
        The USSR missed this strap at the end of the 60s - the USA took the palm, and thanks to private offices, they will remain in the first place in the space industry for a long time.
        1. stalki
          stalki 2 December 2020 20: 20
          +3
          The USSR missed this strap at the end of the 60s - the USA took the palm, and thanks to private offices, they will remain in the first place in the space industry for a long time.
          In the 60s, the USSR was in its prime. Until now, most of the developments are used by us and the whole world. And not only in the space industry. So teach materiel.
    7. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 2 December 2020 12: 44
      -2
      And that even no one will write that the video is computer graphics and everything is generally filmed in the pavilion? The world powers recognize the flight because of a worldwide conspiracy, as the USSR once recognized the flight of the United States, and the Chinese will not give the ground to anyone, because they have not been anywhere.? Obscurantists and reptilians on in, I'm surprised at you, you are losing your grip!
  2. evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 December 2020 10: 20
    +8
    That seems to be a completely alien country to us, but you keep your fists, so that everything goes according to plan for them, as for their own! Strange feelings however.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 2 December 2020 11: 46
      +7
      Quote: evgen1221
      That seems to be a completely alien country to us, but you keep your fists, so that everything goes according to plan for them, as for their own! Strange feelings however.

      But in all, some 30-35 years ago, we had a joke about Chinese cosmonauts, when they were instructed to throw crooked logs into the furnace to turn in orbit and return to earth from the Chinese MCC. And that's how it is. Well done Chinese, what can I say.
      PS It's a shame for the state recourse
  3. Varyag71
    Varyag71 2 December 2020 10: 21
    +10
    It is necessary to send Rogozin to the moon on a trampoline. Let him stake out a place for the future Russian lunar base.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 2 December 2020 10: 26
      -22%
      Hamsters in every topic about Chinese or American space slander Rogozin and Russian space. At the same time, they practically cannot be seen in the topic about Russian space. It's hypocritical.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 December 2020 11: 15
        +16
        Quote: Fungus
        At the same time, they practically cannot be seen in the topic about Russian space.

        And where are the topics about our space?
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 2 December 2020 11: 52
          +9
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          where are the topics about our space?

          Dear Editor!
          Maybe better about the reactor,
          About your favorite lunar tractor! ...
          .... How long has it been!
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 December 2020 12: 36
            +5
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            About your favorite lunar tractor! ...

            "After all, you can't - for a year in a row,
            Then the plates are scared, they say, mean, fly,
            Now our dogs bark, then the ruins say ... "(c)
            I am writing from memory, maybe I forgot what :) But I also remember something else:
            "You calm down, calm down melancholy, I won't hurt my soul,
            Since this is a saying, it means rubbish ... "
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 2 December 2020 12: 49
              +3
              In the distant constellation of Tau Ceti
              Everything became incomprehensible to us.
              We send a signal: "What are you doing there?"
              And we are sent back.

              On tau kit
              Live in beauty
              Live, by the way, in different ways
              Our comrades in reason.

              Here, moving on a beam of light
              Without help, but through,
              I’m flying to Tau Ceti
              To deal with her on the spot.

              On Tau Ceti
              Something is wrong:
              There is a taukiit brothers
              Crazy, according to our concepts.

              For the time being I'm in suspended animation
              Those Taukitians are rowdy.
              Less and less often I get in touch with them -
              Very much they are hooligans.

              The taukites
              In the alphabet of words
              Not many, and the system is bourgeois,
              And their humor is ugly.

              I planted the ship like my own backside,
              By slightly curving the reflector.
              I shouted in Taukityan: "Vivat!" -
              What does it mean in our way "Hello!".

              Among taukites
              All appearances are deception
              Here you can not compete with them:
              They will appear, then they will dissolve ... I am a Taukite - how do you like a Papuan,
              I was briefly hinted about them.
              I shouted: "The galaxy is ashamed of you!"
              They blinked in response.

              On tau kit
              The conditions are not the same:
              There is no atmosphere, it's stuffy here,
              But the Taukites are welcome.

              In the heat, I shouted to them: your mother, they say! ..
              But my cyber guide
              So literally translated me
              What I felt ashamed of myself.

              But the taukits,
              Such brutes
              Probably managed to pick up:
              They will appear, then they will dissolve ... [Source Culture.RF: https://www.culture.ru/poems/19480/v-dalyokom-sozvezdii-tau-kita]
        2. Klingon
          Klingon 3 December 2020 00: 49
          +2
          topics about OUR SPACE remained with I. Efremov and K. Bulychev and not with these huckster-journalists .. something like that
      2. Cosm22
        Cosm22 2 December 2020 11: 18
        +13
        So after all, there is no reason to rejoice at Russia's success, that is the catch.
        The launches of Angara-A5 and Soyuz-ST-A from the Kuru cosmodrome are only postponed with enviable regularity. The last time the bad weather prevented, although over the postponement of the start of the "Falcon", the jingoistic patriots greeted quite a bit in their time. It is not clear, however, why. If Musk needs good weather to land the first stage on a tiny platform, then Russian rockets fly, as you know, in any weather.
        With regard to the Russian lunar program specifically, what can you generally talk about? About the only planned mission "Luna-25"? So, in principle, nothing good can be said about her even in the future tense. This is only a pale shadow of the Soviet Luna 16-24 projects. She doesn't even hold a candle to them, let alone the Chinese mission.
        You can, of course, talk in more detail about the epic of the transformation of the Luna-Globe project into Luna-25. But why?
        The main part of the mission is not even scientific. It's just a soft landing practice. For after the accident with the Phobos-Grunt spacecraft, the lunar concept was also revised. She was pretty much castrated, some of the scientific instruments were removed altogether, their number was halved.
        We can only talk about the epic of the transfer of launches of the same "Luna-25". It is impressive - the chronology of transfers is as follows: 2014 ... 2015 ... 2016 ... 2017 ... Now they are talking about the date October 1, 2021. I mean, of course, the reserve one - October 30, 2021. These achievements can indeed be included in the asset of the Russian cosmonautics.
        1. Fungus
          Fungus 2 December 2020 11: 25
          -5
          Here I am about too. Now they smear their astronautics. And in the corresponding topic either do not appear or suck up. Today, by the way, our rocket was launched with Kuru.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 2 December 2020 12: 02
            0
            Launched - great. We finally got it.
            We are looking forward to the launch of "Angara-A5" in December. Unless, of course, he is transferred again.
            But the corresponding topic, if you have read the article, is lunar. Here, with all the desire, there is nothing to say about the Russian cosmonautics. Good, alas.
            1. Fungus
              Fungus 2 December 2020 12: 30
              -5
              So you slander Russian space in Chinese and American space topics. And now you jump off, say, in the Chinese topic, there is nothing to say about Russian cosmonautics. It's hypocritical.
              1. Cosm22
                Cosm22 2 December 2020 13: 39
                +3
                The transfer of arrows in the topic of the Chinese lunar program to the Russian cosmonautics began, colleague, not me, but you. It is you.
                I just indicated in my comment (in response to yours) that in this area Russia has absolutely nothing to brag about.
                Any objections?
                What you do not understand?
                Got something to argue?
                Can you provide data on the superiority of the Russian cosmonautics in the lunar theme? Sound them, pliz.
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        2. slipped
          slipped 2 December 2020 11: 57
          +2
          Quote: Cosm22
          So after all, there is no reason to rejoice at Russia's success, that is the catch.
          The launches of Angara-A5 and Soyuz-ST-A from the Kuru cosmodrome are only postponed with enviable regularity.


          Soyuz-2 ST-A successfully launched today and launched the Arab satellite Falcon Eye into orbit



          The transfers were made according to weather conditions at the request of the customer.

          Quote: Cosm22
          With regard to the Russian lunar program specifically, what can you generally talk about? About only the planned Luna-25 mission? So, in principle, nothing good can be said about her even in the future tense.


          Many good things can be done. Launching next October. The station is open for one year.

          The main tasks of the spacecraft "Luna-25":

          1. Development of soft landing technology;
          2. Study of the internal structure and exploration of natural resources, including water, in the near-polar region of the Moon;
          3. Investigation of the effects of cosmic rays and electromagnetic radiation on the lunar surface.

          Quote: Cosm22
          This is just a pale shadow of the Soviet Luna 16-24 projects. She doesn't even hold a candle to them, let alone the Chinese mission.


          Oh li. laughing This is the first mission in a series of subsequent ones. And then "Luna-26" and "Luna-27" fly.

          Quote: Cosm22
          The main part of the mission is not even scientific.


          Lies. The main tasks are above.

          Quote: Cosm22
          She was pretty much castrated, some of the scientific instruments were removed altogether, their number was halved.


          The station has everything you need. The devices have already been delivered.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 2 December 2020 13: 33
            0
            1. Learn materiel. Check out at least an interview with Luna-25 chief designer Pavel Kazmerchuk. Which in plain text asserts that the main task of its spacecraft is to develop the technology of soft landing. And nothing more. The rest is just an appendage for the press and blurring the eyes.
            2. Indexes "26-27" will be correctly mentioned only after the "Luna-25" takes off at least. I don’t voice the enormous plans of the Chinese and American astronautics in the future, do I?
            3. What devices have already been delivered? That unfortunate incomplete ten, which is listed in Vicki and which only managed to squeeze into the OZ after its weight was forced to be cut from 32 kg to 20? Along the way, also depriving the spacecraft of hermeticity? And is there a lot of Russian? Even if a representative of the NGO them. Lavochkina says that the share of foreign components in the service equipment reaches 40%? How much in real life is shrouded in mystery. It is not known, for example, whose nameplate is on the Pilot-D device.
            "TERMO-L" had to be excluded, perhaps with great difficulty it will be possible to squeeze it into subsequent devices. As for the Swedish LINA-XSAN ion detector, the Swedes ran out of patience because of the constant postponements of the Luna-25 launch and they safely attached the device to the Chinese Chang'e-4 two years ago.
            What can be said at all if the Luna-25 mission does not provide for even a simple trajectory correction during landing?
            1. slipped
              slipped 2 December 2020 15: 25
              -1
              Quote: Cosm22
              that the main task of its spacecraft is to develop the soft landing technology. And nothing more.


              One of the main tasks. The above list is.

              Quote: Cosm22
              The rest is just an appendage for the press and blurring the eyes.


              Well, the whole year will be "soaping your eyes." laughing

              Quote: Cosm22
              2. Indexes "26-27" will be correctly mentioned only after the "Luna-25" takes off at least. I don’t voice the enormous plans of the Chinese and American astronautics in the future, do I?


              It is a single whole. The program is general.

              Quote: Cosm22
              3. What devices have already been delivered?


              The scientific equipment includes nine instruments: eight Russian and one developed by the European Space Agency. Russian instruments are designed to study the composition, structure, and physicomechanical properties of the lunar polar regolith, dusty and plasma exosphere in the vicinity of the south pole of the moon.

              In the course of scientific research, an estimate of the mass fraction of water in the lunar soil at the landing point should be obtained. The scientific equipment also includes a television system, a manipulator complex and a device that provides power switching and command-telemetric exchange of the scientific payload with the service systems of the apparatus.
              1. Cosm22
                Cosm22 2 December 2020 17: 00
                -1
                Colleague, it will be easier for you to give short links directly to Wiki instead of extended sheets. This will save space in the branch. I do not need quotations from there, I operate with a much larger amount of information.
                Vicky is good. But it would be nice, instead of excerpts from there, to get acquainted with your personal thoughts. I hope there are any?
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 2 December 2020 21: 33
                  +2
                  Quote: Cosm22
                  I hope there are any?
                  No, just hurray-patriotism.
                  Well, minus can still be slapped.
          2. Simargl
            Simargl 2 December 2020 20: 53
            -2
            Quote: slipped
            Many good things can be done. Launching next October. The station is open for one year.
            When did you start to postpone? That's when the station starts to poke around in the moon and give information - then we can say lot at least something good, but for now - the usual dreams, before which come true, most likely, there are many transfers. Of course, one can hope that this is a HSP, but somehow it is no longer possible.

            Quote: slipped
            The main tasks of the spacecraft "Luna-25":

            1. Development of soft landing technology;
            2. Study of the internal structure and exploration of natural resources, including water, in the near-polar region of the Moon;
            3. Investigation of the effects of cosmic rays and electromagnetic radiation on the lunar surface.
            1 - I have already tried to explain to you in another thread: with a long break, everything will have to start over. Here, now there is your confirmation: they are learning to plant the apparatus again.
            2 - Exploration for natural resources ?! Stationary drill ?! If we assume that the Moon is homogeneous - you can accept the assumption, but in fact - this is a simple load on the problem №1.
            3 - There.
            Conclusion: Luna-25 is a "desk", a repetition of the past.

            Quote: slipped
            And then "Luna-26" and "Luna-27" fly
            The technical analogue of Luna-27 was supposed to start hanging out in the orbit of the Moon 10 years ago! And so - "hamsters" rebel, demand to show the landing sites of the Apollo "which was not." Mapping, sounding - it takes time. Or buy all the data from sworn friends? So they will soon push them into the category of commercial secrets, if they are able to understand what I mean.

            Quote: slipped
            Lies. The main tasks are above.
            Lies! The main task is not to break. And the fact that they are "blowing on the water" is evident from the fact that the device was not entrusted to Proton.

            Quote: slipped
            The station has everything you need.
            Rather - what is left and not particularly sorry ... unfortunately.

            If you are going to follow the AMC path, then you need something like this program:
            1 - Land a module with a Lunokhod, on which 100500 sensors and a drill.
            2 - Lunokhod drills cores and puts them into the recoverable module.
            3 - Return to Earth of 100500 cores.
            Otherwise, it's funny: "we can't repeat the USSR"
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 2 December 2020 10: 37
      +3
      Quote: Varyag71
      It is necessary to send Rogozin to the moon on a trampoline. Let him stake out a place for the future Russian lunar base.

      Desirable together with his chief, the government and the Duma. Let them settle down for now, but we need to raise astronautics.
    3. Vikxnumx
      Vikxnumx 2 December 2020 18: 19
      +3
      It is necessary to send Rogozin to the moon on a trampoline. Let him stake out a place for the future Russian lunar base.

      Run from a slingshot, according to the Chinese version !!!!
  4. Svarog
    Svarog 2 December 2020 10: 22
    +4
    How do you Elon .. ugh Rogozin ..
    Meanwhile, Roscosmos called the landing of the Chinese spacecraft a "historical event" and wished China to fully fulfill the program and successfully deliver the lunar soil to Earth.

    For another twenty years, Roskosmos will wonder how the takeoff and landing of a spacecraft is possible .. China has stepped forward a lot ... over the same 30 years ..
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 December 2020 19: 56
      0
      Well, he stepped far - only the RSFSR in this regard, everything that the Chinese are doing now back in the 60s has been implemented - in technical terms, they are only catching up.
  5. Fungus
    Fungus 2 December 2020 10: 24
    -6
    Well done Chinese. After Russia and the United States also landed on the moon to take soil. Then the Indians, Japanese, etc. will arrive.
    1. cost 75
      cost 75 2 December 2020 10: 29
      +16
      After the USSR and the USA. Russia with the current Roscosmos is not able to do it.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 2 December 2020 10: 35
      +7
      The Japanese will arrive only as astronauts on a joint lunar mission with the United States. They have no plans for individual stations. They will torment the asteroids. By the way, Hayabusa will soon drop the samples, after 4 days.



      The Hindus tried, but they smashed the apparatus against the firmament. A backup doped after the accident and lightweight for scientific equipment flies in March 2021.


      They are also preparing the LUPEX polar mission, by the way, together with the Japanese, who will significantly help in the scientific program.
  6. donavi49
    donavi49 2 December 2020 10: 26
    +8
    Seli

    Unfolded.


    Exploration started


    Meanwhile, the Arecibo telescope collapsed. The Chinese are already gloating on Twitter about the decline of the Americans, the rise of the Chinese.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 2 December 2020 14: 57
      +3
      the Arecibo telescope collapsed. The Chinese are already gloating on Twitter
      Doubtful cause for gloating.
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 2 December 2020 10: 31
    +5
    Well done, the Chinese, they will now squeeze out everything they can from 2 kg of soil to advertise their industry. The media will even print this news on toilet paper!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 2 December 2020 10: 37
      +3
      Well, Xi said that this is the property of mankind, and they will distribute up to 1/4 of the extracted to scientific institutes around the world. If nothing has changed, then everyone will receive particles for research.
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 2 December 2020 21: 56
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        Well, Xi said that this is the property of mankind, and they will distribute up to 1/4 of the extracted to scientific institutes around the world. If nothing has changed, then everyone will receive particles for research.


        The Chinese are masters of copying.
        In six months it will be possible to buy "original lunar soil made in China" on aliexpress for ridiculous money, and if you order 10 kg at once, there will be a discount and a free container identical to the one that landed.
        1. Cetron
          Cetron 3 December 2020 00: 13
          0
          Sale of lunar soil: 3 € kg. Pickup.
    2. Rostislav
      Rostislav 2 December 2020 11: 07
      -4
      Well done, the Chinese, they will now squeeze out everything they can from 2 kg of soil to advertise their industry. The media will even print this news on toilet paper!

      So there is really something to be proud of. This is not an American production laughing
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 December 2020 10: 42
    +2
    Slowly, confidently and effectively. Well done in a word.
    1. ankir13
      ankir13 2 December 2020 10: 51
      +3
      Still the way home must be done, however, do not rush to tell the gop ...
  9. Rostislav
    Rostislav 2 December 2020 11: 06
    +6
    Well done. The planned economy, or rather the competent synthesis of the plan and freedom of entrepreneurship, makes itself felt. And a sharp knife for officials who are too grabbing.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 2 December 2020 11: 10
    +1
    Lunar Chinese vehicle "Chang'e-5" began drilling and collecting lunar soil

    Who seeks will always find!
    Who WORKS hard will always achieve the desired result!
  11. kig
    kig 2 December 2020 11: 30
    +1
    A new topic for conspiracy theorists: this cannot be, because this can never be.
  12. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 2 December 2020 12: 22
    +3
    It is not difficult to predict that Chinese traders will soon start selling capsules with "natural lunar soil" on Ali at a low price, at 3 yuan per half a kilo ...
    "Original is not fake"
    1. Vikxnumx
      Vikxnumx 2 December 2020 18: 25
      0
      It is not difficult to predict that Chinese traders will soon start selling capsules with "natural lunar soil" on Ali at a low price, at 3 yuan per half a kilo ...
      "Original is not fake"

      Well, why shouldn't CHINESE be so fired?
      I have already begun to accept prepayment ...
  13. atos_kin
    atos_kin 2 December 2020 12: 32
    +2
    Only the communists will save humanity.
  14. pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 2 December 2020 12: 39
    0
    Yesterday I tried to look through our friendly and tolerant press, not ours, for news about the landing of Chinese - silence! It seems that this was not the case, and the Chinese filmed all this in the pavilions of the Hong Kongfilm, because it was not in vain that they occupied it. bully
  15. pexotinec
    pexotinec 2 December 2020 14: 02
    +6
    Here are the Chinese guys once and sent the device without any saliva advertising. And we listen to Mr. Rogozin's fairy tales and demand money for the development of what has been mastered. Squeezes out the last from the backlog of the past, and then what?
  16. Mikhail S.
    Mikhail S. 2 December 2020 15: 52
    +3
    Probably the first base on the moon will be Chinese.
  17. Andre___86
    Andre___86 2 December 2020 15: 53
    +4
    It's a shame. No, I'm glad for the Chinese. It's a shame for us. Previously, the astronauts were known by name. Now children want to become YouTubers, streamers, and so on. We and they have no desire to work to accomplish anything. We want easy money. Here and now. And the Chinese are great.
  18. Superstarley
    Superstarley 2 December 2020 17: 45
    0
    The Americans have already staked out a bowl of rice from the Chinese .... uh-uh-uh! Soil! Then they will divide it into two parts and broadcast to everyone: you see, the Chinese is just like ours!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 December 2020 20: 03
      -1
      There is no sense in this - as Musk and his office will make and test his Starship, this Lunar soil will begin to carry tens of tons to Earth and sell 1000 bucks per kilo and will raise several hundred billion more on this.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 2 December 2020 21: 40
        -1
        Correction: the soil will be Martian.
  19. faterdom
    faterdom 2 December 2020 22: 16
    +1
    The Americans are now going to sue. To steal soil.
  20. Lontus
    Lontus 3 December 2020 03: 27
    +1
    Nasarogs have a gray daub on the pictures of the Moon, while the Chinese have a blue one, but also a daub.
    The Moon is the only place in the solar system where high-quality color photos are prohibited.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 December 2020 09: 28
      0
      Various light sources and filters. And the stars are not visible due to the peculiarities of shooting the illuminated surface. If you wait, there will be a classic gray daub, like from a lunar rover, which has been working for 2 years without a month.