Polish press: Putin's scenarios come true in Poland

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The right-wing forces in Poland are acting in the interests of Moscow. And even the chairman of the ruling conservative party Law and Justice, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, "makes statements in the style of official Kremlin propaganda."

Polish author Mariusz Kowalczyk discusses this in an article published by Newsweek Polska.



Kaczynski already claims that the European Union is even worse for Warsaw than the USSR, and calls for Poland's exit from the EU are beginning to sound in the country. According to Kowalczyk, the recent actions of the Polish right have suspiciously coincided with the interests of the Kremlin. The author believes that this indicates the emergence in the country of a pro-Russian lobby, the so-called "Russian party".

And Moscow, of course, also pays attention to such trends. In particular, Russian political scientist Sergei Kurginyan notes the fact that Polish and other Eastern European citizens refuse to obey the rules that the European Union dictates to them:

Hungary and Poland defend traditional values, they say that all these policies related to migrants and LGBT people do not suit them.

Former head of Polish military counterintelligence, General Janusz Nosek, believes that the Kremlin is feeding forces in Poland that are undermining European unity and advocating Poland's withdrawal from the European Union. He is echoed by another former head of this department, General Pyotr Pytel, seeing everywhere the "hand of Moscow" and the efforts of the Russian special services:

This is a typical activity for them, which consists in the fact that a certain topic is thrown into the mental space of a society, the discussion of which previously seemed unthinkable. This opens up opportunities for further steps.

Kowalczyk believes that the Kremlin is ready to support any political forces that oppose the liberal values ​​of Europe. And it doesn't matter what views they hold - right or left. For Moscow, the main thing, in the author's opinion, is that in Poland Putin's scenarios of breaking it off the European Union are being implemented.
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  1. +3
    2 December 2020 09: 35
    And what is wrong?
    1. +14
      2 December 2020 09: 39
      To every Polish Russophobe, the Kremlin ruled us in his pants.

      Apparently paying for Russophobia has become worse.

      The time has come when even Kachinsky doubts the EU.

      An explosion of consciousness in a Polish man in the street.
      1. +6
        2 December 2020 09: 46
        This is the last dictator in Europe, Lukashenka, takes revenge on the Poles for Belomaidan.
        1. +20
          2 December 2020 10: 12
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          This is the last dictator in Europe, Lukashenka, takes revenge on the Poles for Belomaidan.

          I don’t understand why Lukashenka is called a “dictator”? Why are all these Yushchenko, Poroshenko, Zelensky, who are many times more cruel than Grigorich, are not called "dictators", and even different "shahs, sheikhs, khans, sultans, liberals."
          1. +15
            2 December 2020 10: 17
            So this is a cliché. In the West, they say this about everyone who is not pleasing to them. They also talked about Milosevic, Gaddafi, Assad. About everyone whom the West considers its enemy. Although the West is full of real dictators, but they are sidekicks and allies, therefore, no one calls them dictators aloud. They can be their own, but enemies cannot.
            1. +8
              2 December 2020 11: 15
              Quote: OrangeBigg
              So this is a cliché. In the West, they say this about everyone who is not pleasing to them.

              True, in their language, in the West there is freedom and democracy, but we have a dictatorship.
              They don't even call the Braunau guy a "dictator." Based on this, I came to the conclusion that "dictatorship" is a more humane form of government than "democracy" with its rotten ideology.
          2. +2
            2 December 2020 10: 38
            Quote: tihonmarine
            I don’t understand why Lukashenka is called a “dictator”? Why are all these Yushchenko, Poroshenko, Zelensky, who are many times more cruel than Grigorich, are not called "dictators", and even different "shahs, sheikhs, khans, sultans, liberals."

            It all depends on who calls it.
            All these clowns are their own, correct, for democracy and peace in the whole world. What kind of dictators are they?
            1. +6
              2 December 2020 12: 25
              You look at these Europeans and you begin to understand a simple thing:
              who does not support LGBT people is a dictator. There is no guilt greater than this! bully
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      2. -12
        2 December 2020 11: 01
        Have you ever been to Poland, or have you been told this on TV? In Russia, for example, there are a lot of people who, having seen enough of the durascope, also suffer from many phobias.
        With regards to Kaczynski, only the lazy one does not laugh at this grandfather (about like ours).
        Hey!
        1. +7
          2 December 2020 12: 59
          Does "everyone" laugh at Kachinsky? wassat You, my friend, as a champion of "liberalism" immediately glue labels, well, like: - who is against, he is a dictator or a senile, and who is "for", that light elf of freedom. Biden, for example, is the liberals "not mrazmatic" laughing So that phobias from durascopes (BBC, NBC, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) suffer primarily from the liberal sect winked
          1. -12
            2 December 2020 13: 07
            Don't you stick labels?
            Everything is either black or white. Yes, the Polish youth laugh at him, as I do at the attempts of Putin and other Komsomol fosterlings to return the Union, preserving their capital.
            You do not engage in demagoguery, I do not care, how is it with Biden, but Poland and Russia are not foreign countries to me.
            1. +7
              2 December 2020 13: 52
              I wonder where I put the labels in my comment? And where did you get the idea that everything is either white or black? As I understand it, you "thought out" for me?)) And for "all" Polish youth, too, you, as always, overshadowed laughing It is of course good that you are not indifferent to Poland and Russia, but why, for any disagreement with "democratic" principles, one can immediately hear a shout and aggressive rhetoric from a liberal angle ????? "Fosterlings of the Komsomol", "Putin's attempts", a strange thought about the "return of Soyuz" .... My friend, yes you have real liberal fears and phobias about the USSR and everything connected with it. Hence the aggression and rudeness in words winked
              1. -5
                2 December 2020 13: 58
                Of course, fears, when you work for yourself, you work, you travel, and here bang-bangs, everything you honestly earned goes to the next "committee of the poor" or a collective farm, as long as you own something - you get excited.
                Many people here do not just fall into nostalgia, but also aggressively advocate "steps back", time cannot be turned back.
                And as for the criticism of the current government, I think you can see for yourself that it deserved it with its actions and inaction, by the way.
              2. +3
                2 December 2020 21: 00
                And where did so many honest owners come from? They worked tirelessly, hands and feet, the larger, the more worked, yeah, for 10 billion fortunes, not from those collective farms?
            2. +2
              2 December 2020 14: 12
              Quote: Merry_Militarist
              You do not engage in demagoguery, I do not care, how is it with Biden, but Poland and Russia are not foreign countries to me.

              Poland and Russia are not strangers to me either, but I always laugh at human stupidity, but my relatives from Poland only have less of it than the garish lads from the outskirts.
              1. -4
                2 December 2020 14: 38
                Laugh for God's sake, Laughter prolongs life! wink
                1. +1
                  2 December 2020 15: 24
                  Quote: Merry_Militarist
                  Laugh for God's sake, Laughter prolongs life!

                  You laugh at Putin, I laugh at the Poles. Laughter prolongs life!
                  1. -4
                    2 December 2020 15: 28
                    I repeat, laugh at your health. I am very glad that in our difficult time you find a reason for sincere joy.
      3. +2
        2 December 2020 12: 40
        Quote: Temples
        An explosion of consciousness in a Polish man in the street.

        In Poland, 93% are Catholics who reverently observe the canons of the church, attend church on Sundays, celebrate all religious holidays, etc. And you seriously believe that true Catholics will accept the EU's lewdness of LGBT people? Homosexuality and lesbianism?
        If you think so, then you are greatly mistaken about them!
    2. +16
      2 December 2020 09: 48
      Vladimir Vladimirovich alone takes out the problems of all countries ... and the elections in the United States, and the right-wing strikes in Poland, is preparing an attack on Brussels ... I generally keep quiet about Ukraine. You might think the GDP alone lives in Russia.
      1. KCA
        +7
        2 December 2020 10: 02
        This is what a human being, and he is constantly spanked even on this site, and he pushes the whole world around
        1. +1
          2 December 2020 10: 40
          Normal brains with an impenetrable ideology of revolutions don’t bother.
          Even on this site.
      2. +5
        2 December 2020 10: 05
        Quote: Civil
        You might think the GDP alone lives in Russia.

        Not in Russia, in the world alone.
        Well, at least one manages everything. He appoints presidents in the United States, and in Poland he put right to the nail, and in Ukraine, and in Yerevan, and in Baku, and in Africa and in Asia and in the Antarctic and in the Arctic.
        He is everywhere.
        ONE! laughing

        Then why do we need everyone else? request
        Everyone needs to dissolve themselves, and the most odious ones need to self-destruct. wassat

        And it will be good. laughing
      3. +3
        2 December 2020 10: 17
        Quote: Civil
        You might think the GDP alone lives in Russia.

        And one is fighting against the whole world. These states are weaklings, Nats and Gayropes.
      4. +1
        2 December 2020 10: 18
        No, not in Russia - all over the world !!!
        1. +3
          2 December 2020 10: 42
          Well, everyone knows that in fact the country is run by sofa experts directly from the sites.
          But Putin, he went out for a walk.
          1. 0
            2 December 2020 11: 11
            Your Putin, Styopa took a walk.
            1. +3
              2 December 2020 13: 05
              Do you propose to change it to a member of Zelensky?))) lol No, thanks, let Mr. Ze further "raise" Ukraine with his erectile charisma wassat
  2. +7
    2 December 2020 09: 35
    Yes, Putin day and night only does what he thinks about Poland, he has no internal problems of his own. As for the European "values", they run counter to the Catholic conservatism of Polish and Hungarian society, and the reason for the split must be sought within oneself.
    1. +11
      2 December 2020 09: 41
      Think right. Only one addition: the Vatican, too, is no longer the same, has eaten away his mole of liberalism.
  3. +9
    2 December 2020 09: 39
    And the Kremlin also supports the "Red Book", and also for peaceful space, and you won't believe it, the Kremlin is for ending wars. In spite of the Kremlin, the "civilized" ones need to destroy the planet. laughing fool
    1. +3
      2 December 2020 10: 27
      And also in the field of ballet, he is ahead of the rest!
      1. +3
        2 December 2020 10: 33
        We have always been and will be. And not only in ballet!
  4. +5
    2 December 2020 09: 43
    The whole policy of "pshek", starting from the time of Peter the Great, is the rotation of the "fifth point" by 360 degrees. We are always ready to substitute it for anyone "for a small share", despite all treaties, alliances and agreements.
  5. +4
    2 December 2020 09: 46
    For Moscow, the main thing, in the author's opinion, is that in Poland Putin's scenarios of breaking it off the European Union are being implemented.

    Nonsense. Won the UK came off, so what? Did you start doing less nasty things? Exit from NATO is another matter, but no one is going to leave NATO. Unless Erdi makes them fear from time to time. But it won't work ...
    1. +4
      2 December 2020 09: 51
      "Give up hope, everyone who enters here." There is no escape from there.
      1. +2
        2 December 2020 10: 26
        For Moscow, the main thing, in the author's opinion, is that in Poland Putin's scenarios of breaking it off the European Union are being implemented.
        "Give up hope, everyone who enters here." There is no escape from there.

        According to the author, does Moscow really need this suitcase without a handle?
        And the exit after the exit (the pun turns out laughing ) this is only one - again an entrance, only 51st state. Psheki will run after such a carrot with their tail up.
        1. +3
          2 December 2020 10: 30
          Well, I meant leaving NATO. But yes, going one_ feet first under the Yankee protectorate.
    2. +4
      2 December 2020 10: 03
      Quote: Jovanni
      Won the UK came off, so what? Did you start doing less nasty things?

      So from birth Great Britain is imprisoned to do only dirty tricks, but nothing good.
  6. +9
    2 December 2020 09: 49
    A strange thought came to me that most Western Putinophobes are latent Putinophiles. recourse
    1. +6
      2 December 2020 09: 56
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      A strange thought came to me that most Western Putinophobes are latent Putinophiles.

      Perverts, what to take from them ... No, to directly admit ...
      1. 0
        2 December 2020 10: 29
        Quote: Jovanni
        Perverts, what to take from them ... No, to directly admit ...

        Yes. Come out. It will be very European. Declare yourself transputins, and ask to contact them "gdp". Another gender.
  7. +1
    2 December 2020 09: 56
    Former head of Polish military counterintelligence, General Janusz Nosek, believes that the Kremlin is fueling forces in Poland that are undermining European unity and advocating Poland's withdrawal from the European Union.
    As well as the work of "Dvuika" of the General Staff of the Polish Army, at the direction of Pilsudski, created the "Prometheus" project to shatter the USSR (the project is still working.)
  8. +4
    2 December 2020 10: 01
    The right-wing forces in Poland are acting in the interests of Moscow.

    Well, yes, well, yes ... whoever does not jump with them, in liber ecstasy, that means already Mordor and something else there in one glass !!!
    Honestly, it's time to introduce such a term - LIBERGENOCID of everything and everyone.
    1. +5
      2 December 2020 10: 05
      It seems to me that this is when you need to find the guilty - beat your own so that strangers are afraid, it's funny with them, too, like with the owners ...
      1. +3
        2 December 2020 10: 11
        Quote: cniza
        when to find the culprit

        At the liber. parties of their own, except for them, and no one ... even more so, they consider themselves right in everything and in advance I write indulgences for absolution or omission ... figs you will understand.
        1. +4
          2 December 2020 10: 15
          It seems to me they decided to keep up with their overseas patrons in anything ...
          1. +1
            2 December 2020 11: 15
            No question, let them jump when they jump! There will just be more skakuas ...
            1. +2
              2 December 2020 12: 21
              It looks like they are turning or have the opportunity to stand in a row with them and jump on the same rake ...
              1. +1
                2 December 2020 12: 29
                The Poles have enough of their own rake .... ukropryguns have not yet managed to accumulate this, their diversity.
                1. +2
                  2 December 2020 12: 32
                  That's for sure, but they have added to themselves from a neighbor, there are also claims there ...
                  1. +1
                    2 December 2020 12: 34
                    Yes, they are so old that they no longer want to advise them not to pull any byaka in .... where it is not necessary.
                    1. +2
                      2 December 2020 12: 37
                      No, you shouldn't give advice to anyone, let it be yourself ...
                      1. +1
                        2 December 2020 13: 22
                        Well, they themselves rode, they themselves must come to a certain norm ... at who else can.
  9. +5
    2 December 2020 10: 03
    The right-wing forces in Poland are acting in the interests of Moscow. And even the chairman of the ruling conservative party Law and Justice, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, "makes statements in the style of official Kremlin propaganda."


    Oh, how, the competition will begin, who is the greater Russophobe ...
    1. +3
      2 December 2020 10: 12
      Quote: cniza
      Oh, how, the competition will begin, who is the greater Russophobe ...

      Ha, and the prize is one and everyone wants to get to it first and only !!! go over the heads, or even over the bodies ...
      1. +3
        2 December 2020 10: 16
        They will gnaw each other not childishly ...
        1. +1
          2 December 2020 11: 16
          "sweet" he is the fruit of victory ... all the more nimble from the biggest boss appointed.
          1. +2
            2 December 2020 12: 22
            Laughter laughter, but they really start the competition, who shit on us more ...
            1. +1
              2 December 2020 12: 31
              Nothing new ... but there is also a flip side of the coin ... then what good is it to them? Big brother, of course, will pat on the cheek, but .... it's no use.
              1. +2
                2 December 2020 12: 34
                Apparently they think that they will get something more material ...
                1. +1
                  2 December 2020 12: 36
                  Well, they'll be given cookies if the old Obama company moves into the White House ...
                  1. +2
                    2 December 2020 12: 39
                    I have the impression that they will come there in formation and quickly take up their old business ...
                    1. +1
                      2 December 2020 13: 21
                      Already on the way .... not long to wait for the denouement.
                      1. +2
                        2 December 2020 14: 04
                        Trump is of course still twitching, but it looks like they will enter the white house.
                      2. +1
                        2 December 2020 14: 23
                        Well, okay, we sat on the rubble, it's time to get down to business ...
                      3. +2
                        2 December 2020 14: 39
                        So we are not bored, in every sense, but it will probably be even more fun ...
                      4. +1
                        2 December 2020 14: 56
                        Anyway, we have holidays ahead!
                        Will have something to do and have fun.
                        Besides, the new winter fishing season is about to begin ... waiting with!
  10. +2
    2 December 2020 10: 11
    LGBT people and migrants are overlooked in economic growth. And when subsidies from the EU ended, liberal values ​​immediately began to interfere. Oh yes Poles are pragmatists.
  11. +3
    2 December 2020 10: 12
    After joining the European Union, Poland began its usual cycle of internal vacillations and contradictions.
    Such cycles began in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth more than once or twice.
    The gentry was divided in itself, screamed abusively in the Diet, cut in the squares of Krakow and Lodz, looked for allies in the West and in the East.
    Polish ambition has always been the main enemy of the Poles!
    Instead of the state "from sea to sea" - three sections, repeated loss of statehood and national humiliation.
    But as soon as Poland is brought back to "divine form" by someone else's hands, everything is repeated anew.
    After the Second World War, the Soviet Union presented Poland with considerable lands, access to the sea, entire industries, rebuilt destroyed cities, tearing the latter away from itself helped to survive the hard times ...
    Do not feed the horse!
    As soon as the USSR was gone, the Poles branded their benefactor, threw mud at them, and cursed them.
    They began to demolish the hated monuments to the killed Russians, their damned graves.
    After all, the dead cannot stand up for themselves, and the living Russians are busy with their own survival, they will not climb! ..
    But not everything is all right with the European Union. The Brussels regional committee forces them to close enterprises, reduce the level of agricultural production, kiss on the lips with homosexuals, pass laws on the legality of abortion.
    How can gentry pride survive this?
    There was hope for America. Trump has declared Poland the beloved European wife. Staring on the Old Continent!
    The Poles almost suffocated with happiness ... Poorlo ... Just a little bit and Warsaw will become New Brussels, as Moscow once did - the Third Rome.
    The Rzeczpospolita will expand, absorb its neighbors, and reach the Black Sea at the expense of the former lands of the Svidomites ...
    But Polish happiness is deceptive - he blinked and was gone ...
    Trump lost the election.
    And Biden - Superpoland does not need naxpen ...
    And how to build Fort Trump now? At whose expense?
    But they managed to break up with all their neighbors - with Germany, and with Russia and with Belarus. And even with Nezalezhnaya grabbed.
    So they beat each other's muzzles on the squares of Polish cities. This is a tradition. The time has come.
    Polish democracy. wink
  12. +2
    2 December 2020 10: 16
    Poles attach too much importance to their country, for Russia and the world as a whole. I do not even know if there is any separate department in the leadership of the Russian Federation, for the Polish direction, I very much doubt it.
  13. 0
    2 December 2020 10: 18
    Scenarios ???))) Yes, we have already won everyone (it's just that you just don't understand this scenario))) Yeah, and the forks are no longer distributed for free? (Well, yes, capitalism)
  14. +1
    2 December 2020 10: 30
    the actions of the Polish right are suspiciously aligned with the interests of the Kremlin
    Polish zrada or internal political struggle? And for us it is good, because The EU (all NATO members) is, by and large, our potential adversary. Well, Poland is in the first place in this list for Russophobia. When there is discord in the enemy's camp, confusion and vacillation are wonderful, because maybe less time will be on anti-Russian projects.
  15. 0
    2 December 2020 10: 33
    that in Poland Putin's scenarios are being implemented to separate it from the European Union.
    We need you like a hare "stop signal". Live as you want, just don't touch us.
  16. 0
    2 December 2020 11: 13
    "Polish Press".
    Bill, did you hear? The Russians flew into space!
    What, is that all?
  17. 0
    2 December 2020 11: 34
    There is clearly something wrong with the Poles, then they are using their pipe, then "The right forces in Poland are acting in the interests of Moscow. And even the chairman of the ruling conservative party" Law and Justice "Jaroslaw Kaczynski" makes statements in the style of official Kremlin propaganda. " from). Quite the Poles have gone, already in the course of all the options for Russophobic statements have exhausted. I remembered where I heard something similar:
    "Now your dogs bark, then the ruins say" (c) V. Vysotsky "A letter from the patients of the Kanatchikova dacha", nothing new under the moon.
  18. 0
    2 December 2020 12: 54
    For anyone to do in the world, everything plays into the hands of the Kremlin.
    Kaczynski, apparently, has seen the light that there is nothing to do for the Lyakhs in the EU. Immediately screams about the hand of the Kremlin.
    When the economy becomes bad because of the EU, it will also be beneficial to the Kremlin.
    And it would not occur to anyone there that it was they themselves who were to blame.
  19. 0
    2 December 2020 13: 12
    Father Dmitry Dudko, speaking about Stalin, wrote: "Which is better - the" despotism "of Stalin's times or the democracy of our time - the Stalinists, tell me - the same despotism, suppression of freedom, belittling the individual. Liberalism, democracy means full rights, complete freedom of everything and all.
    No, gentlemen, all despotism pales before the cruelty of democracy. "
  20. 0
    2 December 2020 15: 04
    tiya, is that a value or what? This is a deviation from a healthy lifestyle. This phenomenon can not be condemned, but called "value", in my opinion, is too much
  21. 0
    2 December 2020 16: 07
    Typical logic of traitors - we ate at some, now let's go eat at others.
  22. 0
    2 December 2020 19: 13
    laughing I never thought that they were real Russophobes, agents of the Kremlin. probably the inhabitants of one Balkan country are solid undercover agents. laughing
  23. 0
    2 December 2020 19: 24
    .. Somewhat unexpectedly, neo-Marxists, represented by the OZhZ (All-Polish Women's Strike) and the "Spring" party, began to gain strength. Strife, unrest, civil strife and, for decency, attacks on an external enemy. Who is the external enemy? Anyone who comes along by the arm. Russia is in the first place and out of competition, but situationally the enemy can (and has become) Lithuania, Germany, Belarus.

    "Poland is strong in strife!" - the old self-soothing slogan of ambitious gentlemen who are not able to agree even about the order of visiting the toilet. Strife is the alpha and omega of Polish identity and mentality. Rzeczpospolita was divided not at all because someone really wanted it, but because everyone was shaken to death by a wild uncontrollable territory, where each tycoon imagined himself the governor of God and gathered his own army, and the king in Warsaw was like a parsley parsley. 

    Centuries have passed - psheks have not changed. All the time they are sharing something, changing their shoes in a jump, hysteria and making claims, take offense at each other and at neighbors, looking for a roof as far as possible from their own borders. Incorrigible! My addition - the Poles have pissed away their empire for a long time because of ambition and stupidity. The empire is long gone, but stupidity and ambition remain
  24. 0
    2 December 2020 23: 45
    The Poles, as always, were caught between a hammer and an anvil, the EU is not a decree to them, they are under the United States, and so Poland must be torn away from the EU and taken as an outpost in promoting their ideas against Russia.
  25. AB
    0
    3 December 2020 10: 39
    Psheki, as always, the most cunning ass Having received from the European Union almost 170 billion euros of gratuitous euros for 16 years for its development, it begins to shed, and then suddenly for bad behavior the loot will be required to return.
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  27. 0
    4 December 2020 06: 35
    The homosexuals and African rabble bush and further shake Geyropa! ... in 10 years there will be Islam in Europe !! ... that's when they will howl !!!
  28. 0
    21 December 2020 21: 45
    In Poland, do a muschin and a woman still get married? What a disgrace! And there are still figures who defend this, violate Euro-unity? Finally a nightmare.
  29. 0
    23 December 2020 09: 58
    How Pushkin's poems sound in Polish: "Shukomorye has a silky shower ...", now I understand why the Poles are a little disgusting to me, regardless of their surname.