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Remote controlled assassination. Who really benefited from the death of Mohsen Fakhrizada?

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Crime scene. Source: ria.ru


A new word in terrorism


Al Alam TV claims that the leading developer of Iran's nuclear program, Moskhen Fakhrizadeh, was shot from a remotely controlled weapons... At the same time, no detailed information on the nature of the attack is provided. They are limited only to a certain machine-gun installation controlled via an orbital satellite. At the time of the attack, it was mounted on a car and opened fire as Nisssan Teana approached with a nuclear scientist.

After the attack, according to Iranian news agencies, the machine-gun mount self-destructed. And already on the rubble the Iranians identified its Israeli identity. Judging by the photographs from the crime scene, the machine gun (or automatic rifle) worked at a target head-on through the windshield of Nissan at a distance of several tens of meters. It is not known if the fire was fired at the moving car with the scientist or if it was somehow forced to stop.


Source: gdb.rferl.org

The Iranians are confused in their testimonies, indicating a different number of victims of the assassination attempt - from three to four people who accompanied Fakhrizade died. And it is not known whether the VIP passenger himself is included in this number. According to one of the versions, the nuclear scientist was seriously wounded during the attack and died already in intensive care. Other Iranian sources claim that the founder of the nuclear program was killed on the spot. Be that as it may, the high-profile assassination attempt was an example of a new type of high-tech terrorism, about which little was previously known.

Sacred sacrifice


The very method of attacking the father of the Iranian nuclear program looks quite unusual. Eighty kilometers from Tehran, on the highway, the car from Fakhrizade was not exploded, and a high-precision loitering ammunition did not fall on it, as often happens with the enemies of the collective West. In fact, the VIP passenger was shot by a remotely controlled robot and then exploded.

It is not known for certain whether the machine-gun turret was actually controlled from a satellite. Or the operator was located at a distance in the car and quietly disappeared after the terrorist attack. The turret with a machine gun was most likely located in the passenger compartment and fired through the rear (or front) glass. There is also a version that automatic small arms were located inside a Nissan truck parked on the side of the highway.

The psychological effect of this attack is also important, revealing the vulnerability of persons important to the country from foreign intelligence services even inside Iran. The enemy spy network within the Islamic Republic is obviously so advanced that it can afford to construct such deadly traps on the roads. Demonstratively inflicted a scalpel blow, minimizing collateral damage from an explosion, for example. After all, the terrorist act took place on a busy highway, and with a powerful explosion there would have been many more deaths.

Miscalculation of protection


Another scenario for the development of the situation is circulating in the media space. Eyewitnesses claim that they heard first an explosion, and only then shooting. It was an unknown explosion that forced Fakhrizade's car to stop, and only then a machine gun worked on a fixed target.

At the same time, the scientist received two fatal wounds already outside the car - the bodyguard tried to cover the guarded person with himself, but he was killed. However, this scenario is also one of the versions. It is not clear, in particular, when the car with the machine gun exploded.


Source: espreso.tv

The initial analysis of the results of the fatal attempt on the scientist suggests that the Iranian special services did not expect an attack at all. Fakhrizade's car was completely civil and was in no way designed to protect important passengers. The scientist had previously been assassinated, but no armored vehicle corresponding to the status of a passenger was found. Just as the nuclear scientist did not have escort vehicles capable of at least covering a defenseless passenger car from a machine-gun burst.

According to one version, the guards were still there, but they moved along the highway several kilometers further. The organizers of the assassination attempt knew all such subtleties and carried out a rather complicated operation to eliminate the father of the Iranian nuclear program. In Tehran, the potential executors and customers of the terrorist act were expressed in the following meaningful way:

"There is evidence of the involvement of the Zionist regime in the operation to eliminate Fakhrizadeh, however, given the complexity of the operation, there is a possibility that other foreign special services also participated in it."

Project "Amad"


The elimination of Moskhen Fakhrizadeh will not, of course, exert much influence on the Iranian nuclear project of a peaceful or militaristic plan. In the modern world, technological and scientific secrets have long ceased to be concentrated on individuals. Teamwork is a priority now. In an area as complex as nuclear physics, the research team has shared responsibilities among all participants. And often team members can be interchangeable. Therefore, the sacrifice to Fakhrizada was rather demonstrative. An act of retaliation.

But why did the "Zionist regime", in the Iranian opinion, take revenge on the nuclear scientist? First of all, for a key role in the Amad project, aimed at obtaining nuclear warheads for ballistic missiles of the Islamic Republic.

The Iranian analogue of the American "Manhattan Project" was launched in the early 2000s, although the first developments date back to 1989. Israel and its allies regularly launched pre-emptive strikes at the facilities of the nuclear program, but covered it up in Iran back in 2003.

Jerusalem a couple of years ago provided documents that, according to the Israelis, prove the continuation of work on the Amad theme. Tehran denied everything, attributing the development to improving the peaceful atom. IAEA in this stories was on the side of Iran, although it complained about the regular blocking of international observers' access to some of the republic's nuclear facilities.

USA and / or Israel?


It is noteworthy that when the Iranians received the Russian S-300 PMU-2 Favorit complexes after a long wait, they covered the Fordo caves with them in 2016. It would seem, why protect some caves with an expensive air defense system?

It turned out that centrifuges for uranium enrichment were hiding in Fordow for a long time, which in 2012 were disabled by the notorious Stuxnet virus. The technique was quickly restored by Iranian scientists. But the successful cyberattack made it into history and programming textbooks.

The maneuver with the "Favorites", given Iran's declared freeze of its military nuclear program, seemed strange to the West. And the pressure on the country intensified. And Moskhen Fakhrizade has always been at the center of the whole story.

Recently, the deceased scientist headed the Defense Innovation and Research Organization (analogous to the American DARPA) at home, which, due to suspicions of working on a military atom, came under US sanctions. In addition, Fakhrizadeh was an officer in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which also did not add confidence from the world nuclear club. All this, coupled with the numerous successful attempts by the Mossad on Iranian nuclear scientists, speaks in favor of the Israeli trace in the murder of the famous scientist. But there is also the USA in the game.


Source: bb.lv

Tehran's main enemy in recent years has been President Donald Trump, who is very radical towards the Islamic Republic. At the same time, the outgoing president sympathized with Israel, in various ways supporting all kinds of Jerusalem aggression against opponents in the region.

Joe Biden, the new president, has a slightly different attitude in this regard. Israel is expecting a cold snap in relations with the United States, while Iran may well count on a symbolic warming.

In this regard, the possible provocation of the Trump administration with the assassination of Fakhrizadeh looks like a logical, albeit somewhat naive step. It got to the point that even in Tehran they voiced such a conspiracy version of a terrorist act among the main ones. And if so, the operation, which was simple in design, but complicated in execution, was actually wasted.

If Iran decides to take retaliatory steps, they will be completely symbolic.
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  1. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 3 December 2020 04: 03
    +8
    Everything is very strange ... How, in a closed country, do the Israeli and US special services joke around? Where are the IRGC and so on looking? This is not the first time that attempts have been made on high-ranking politicians / scientists ... In Iran, they did not try to classify them?
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 3 December 2020 06: 21
      +2
      how the world has changed. what "progress" since even the murder of Jiafkei. you feel naked. nothing stands in the way, everything is possible.
      1. Nazar
        Nazar 3 December 2020 07: 11
        +2
        Airfield - In one of the old American films with Bruce Wheeles, the exact same version was shot - a remotely controlled k / k machine gun in the car - I now don't remember the name of the film, many years have passed ... and for those, everything is the same but not in the movies request
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 3 December 2020 07: 17
          0
          Quote: Nazar
          In one of the old American films with Bruce Wheeles, the exact same version was shot - a remotely controlled machine gun in a car - I don't remember the name of the film anymore, many years have passed ... and for those, everything is the same, but no longer in the cinema

          Colleague, this is the 1997 film "The Jackal". yes
          1. Nazar
            Nazar 3 December 2020 09: 14
            0
            Stroporez - Thanks for the tip, Colleague! smile
            However, more than twenty years ago, it was removed, and now it has turned from Hollywood fantasies into real life. So in Hollywood they filmed a lot of all sorts of dirty tricks, but how else does something "materialize" from there, God forbid? belay
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 3 December 2020 11: 51
              0
              Quote: Nazar
              and now it has turned from a Hollywood fantasy into a real life. So in Hollywood they filmed a lot of all sorts of dirty tricks, but how else does something "materialize" from there, God forbid?

              Comrade, the point is that future wars may well become remote ones using robotic systems and artificial intelligence.
              1. Nazar
                Nazar 4 December 2020 03: 30
                +1
                Stroporez - Colleague, and no longer "future wars" - current conflicts cannot do without it, the same UAVs - the operator sits in a "quiet place" and remotely controls the combat vehicle - this is today.
                I’m a little about something else - the fact that twenty to thirty years ago in the cinema or in literature was the author’s fantasies, today in real life it shoots and kills people. Bradbury's story - "Guardian Bird" was written a long time ago, and now watch the video of the flight of a swarm of drones, somehow it becomes even creepy belay
          2. Dkuznecov
            Dkuznecov 4 December 2020 23: 03
            0
            It was a remake of the 1972 film The Jackal.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 3 December 2020 07: 29
      +1
      The Persians, then at least the conclusions that their scientists need to be protected properly, that they are best made up and hidden under heavy protection, will they ever make? Or, until everyone is insolently shot, they will catch flies?
    3. Soveticos
      Soveticos 3 December 2020 11: 28
      +5
      Iran, one might say, is one of those countries where any intelligence agencies hostile to the country can work almost comfortably. The only reason for this is the MEK or the Mujahideen organization of Iran. Read them on the Internet. It was considered a terrorist organization in the West, but was excluded from this list in order to use them against Iran. Terrorists in essence and in deeds. All terrorist acts on the territory of Iran, any sabotage at military facilities are their work. They made their way into every area of ​​Iran's economy and defense. The enemies of the state will always support them with money, technology and weapons. Sometimes it is not even necessary to beg them, they will offer their services themselves and in order to show their "usefulness" they will aggravate the situation with all sorts of fables about people's dissatisfaction with the "Ayatollah regime" and outright lies about new nuclear or military facilities in Iran. The only method of eliminating them, in my opinion, is the Stalinist method of eliminating the enemies of the state inside the country, but in modern realities this is all very difficult. In summary, the assassinations and sabotage in Iran are not the result of the skill of Western intelligence services, but the work of numerous ideological enemies and traitors to the state. The headquarters of the organization in Paris, branches in all Western countries.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 3 December 2020 15: 59
        +3
        Would be a normal secular state instead of a religious one and there would be no problems.
        1. Nazar
          Nazar 4 December 2020 03: 33
          0
          Kronos - How are we - yes? RF is a secular state and "no problems" with either terrorists or Western sanctions - right? wassat
      2. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 6 December 2020 17: 43
        0
        Here they made fun of it. The Persian state security does not need to be taught the Stalinist methods - there, only for a hint of belonging to the mujahideen or fedayins (by the way, both organizations are semi-Marxist) will be pulled up on a truck crane, having previously broken everything that is possible. It is necessary to bring the people so that in an Islamic country the power of the ayatollahs causes such hatred that people go to certain martyrdom to fight for the bright future of the country.
    4. businessv
      businessv 3 December 2020 19: 05
      +2
      Quote: Cottodraton
      Everything is very strange ... How, in a closed country, do the Israeli and US special services joke around? Where are the IRGC and so on looking?

      It is very conditionally closed. I was there three times, in those days when gasoline in it cost $ 1 for 20 liters, it was in the 90s. The country is quite accessible for visits, but there were not many people who wanted to go there due to the fact that it is an Islamic Republic with all the consequences. My friend was pelted with anything when he entered the "dining room" in shorts and a shirt with short sleeves, although I warned him. smile And then, after all, it is not tourists who carry out such promotions, but specialists who do not care about any border.
    5. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 4 December 2020 12: 30
      0
      Everything here is suspicious. Everything!
  2. Proton
    Proton 3 December 2020 04: 05
    +4
    Everything is somehow strange from the Iranian side. Leading specialist of the state level - there is no corresponding car, security is “somewhere nearby.” Without a mole surrounded by the deceased, such an operation would be very difficult to carry out.
    The Iranians should start their investigation with themselves, but only then deal an all-crushing blow to the organizers. If you have enough spirit, of course.
    1. KCA
      KCA 3 December 2020 06: 02
      +4
      Yes, it looks like a mole there will be anyone who will be shown a tasty green "cutlet", the virus called "notorious" in the article could not materialize in the internal network that does not have any access to the Internet or other networks, only a disinterested fighter with the regime for a share could bring small
      1. businessv
        businessv 3 December 2020 19: 08
        0
        Quote: KCA
        Yes, it looks like anyone who will be shown a tasty green "cutlet" will become a mole there, the virus called "notorious" in the article could not materialize in the internal network

        There are much more ideological citizens in Iran than we have! This is evidenced by the Islamic revolution itself, which has sent the whole pi-n-dosny out of the country. The family has its black sheep, of course, but there are not many people willing to commit treason to the Motherland. IMHO
        1. KCA
          KCA 3 December 2020 19: 27
          0
          But without the complicity of an employee of production and security, it is impossible to carry a flash drive to probably the most closed enterprise in Iran, whatever the method of killing Fakhrizadeh, without betrayal it would be impossible to carry it out, and not one person, but a whole group
          1. businessv
            businessv 4 December 2020 19: 48
            0
            Quote: KCA
            without betrayal, it would have been impossible to implement it, and not just one person, but a whole group
            A very dubious statement. If the specialists worked, then this is quite their usual work. It all depends on the preparation of the operation itself. Arrival, preparation, execution, departure. If you do not neglect any of the points in which the last two, most often take 10% of the time, everything works out. As for the flash drive, I'm not at all sure if it was at all. I am simply not aware of the execution of the action itself and its results, except for general conversations, so I cannot say anything.
            1. KCA
              KCA 4 December 2020 20: 00
              0
              Specialists need to get complete information about the object, get to the place, conduct reconnaissance of the area, place the turret-bots, on the car or on the ground, lay explosives, know the actions or inaction of the purchased security, and all this is one DRG without the support of the local? I will never believe
              1. businessv
                businessv 4 December 2020 20: 17
                0
                Quote: KCA
                and all this is one DRG without local support? I will never believe
                Because you do not know how specialists work and you confuse them with DRG. It's like comparing a doctor and a nurse! Do you think the whole collective farm comes with hubbub and hooting? No, one or two chela rides ahead of time, and they carry out all the necessary preparation work. As for the turrets - bots, firstly this is the beginning of the action, and secondly, I'm not at all sure that they were.
                1. KCA
                  KCA 4 December 2020 20: 42
                  0
                  DRG is me, I grabbed a front-line unit on a machine gun, but one or two chelas will not be able to do anything without a network of local agents, it is officially an impossible task to enter the territory of Iran, it means illegally, it means there is a conductor at the border, remember the 80th year? Already the CIA itself with the special operation was fucked up, as not a single special service in the world happened either before or after
                  1. businessv
                    businessv 4 December 2020 20: 50
                    0
                    Quote: KCA
                    one or two chelas will not be able to do anything without a network of local agents, it is officially an impossible task to penetrate the territory of Iran, it means illegally, then there is a guide at the border, remember the 80th year?
                    Yes, you just listened to the media, or seen enough. Of course, it is semi-legal, no guides, just a resident of a neighboring state decided to visit a friend - it's like in all countries. Maybe you didn't notice, I wrote above that I was in Iran three times and it is not such a closed country as you think! smile
      2. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 6 December 2020 17: 46
        +1
        They write that most Iranians sacredly hate the United States, but for some reason they simply adore dollars.
  3. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 3 December 2020 04: 18
    +2
    Or maybe they didn't kill him, they just hid him after the assassination attempt.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 3 December 2020 04: 59
      +1
      Is it like the alleged murder of Babchenko in Ukraine?
      Bang bang oh oh oh, they brought him home, he turned out to be alive.
      Hardly ... Persians do not watch such cartoons. what
      And what is the point of such a performance for the IRGC? If there is no sense in this in the Iranian leadership, they will find it anyway. Scientists have to work.
    2. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 3 December 2020 05: 10
      +1
      Exactly, I agree. Initially, this thought arose.

      They write that the first explosion was supposed to stop the car. Then the IED should be laid in the roadbed, to work either in front of the car or under it. If a directed explosion from the side of the road, the car moves by inertia, and the driver, if possible, must continue to move in order to exit the affected area and a possible attack.
      Nissan Teana itself does not have significant damage as from a VU or shelling from a "remotely controlled turret".
      If the turret was in the back of a pickup truck (which Nissan NP300 or Navara, Titan?) The first two are lightweight, swing very easily.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 3 December 2020 05: 35
        -1
        https://cnnn.ru/01/12/2020/46106/kak-62-cheloveka-ybivali-iranskogo-ychenogo-iadershika.html

        Here is the details of the murder.
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 3 December 2020 09: 05
          +1
          Read earlier. First, they write that the turret was in the pickup truck, then the pickup truck was mined.
          The force of the explosion was such that the affected area was 300 m from the epicenter.
          This means that the first escort car was blown up (media write).
          Questions:
          The escort vehicle was 300 m ahead of the motorcade?
          No photo of the first car?
          If the scientist's car followed the first, where are the traces of the VU defeat?
          There was fire contact. On the Nissan Teana, bullet holes are minimal.
          Teana doesn't look like an armored car.

          It is clear that it is dark ...
          I agree with the opinion of "Aerodromny" that a body in a coffin is not an argument.
    3. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 3 December 2020 05: 41
      +1
      Or maybe they didn't kill him, they just hid him after the assassination attempt.

      And nothing that he is in the coffin? hi
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 3 December 2020 06: 24
        +3
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Or maybe they didn't kill him, they just hid him after the assassination attempt.

        And nothing that he is in the coffin? hi

        nowadays this is finally not an argument.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 3 December 2020 06: 27
          +1
          nowadays this is finally not an argument.

          Yeah ... the argument is when you open up the deceased yourself to make sure of his death ... where the world is heading. crying
    4. businessv
      businessv 3 December 2020 19: 11
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Or maybe they didn't kill him, they just hid him after the assassination attempt.

      You have chosen the wrong nickname, colleague, for your posts with such content! smile good
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 3 December 2020 06: 02
    +3
    Since the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the world has been preparing for self-destruction. A peaceful atom is not needed.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 3 December 2020 06: 10
      +4
      A peaceful atom is not needed.
      Alas, Gaddafi and Hussein with Milosevic realized this too late, going to Allah and the Lord God.
      The great Kim figured it out in time and got his vigorous rocket ... he lives and enjoys life now.
      So against a cowboy with a colt the best argument is the same colt. smile
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 3 December 2020 06: 24
        +5
        "Press the button, you will get the result" (c) smile
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 3 December 2020 06: 08
    +4
    With modern technology, terrorists could be more "careful": "heart", "car accident", "suicide", etc. ... Everything looks like a demonstrative warning about "long arms".

    In addition, Fakhrizadeh was an officer in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which also did not add credibility to the world nuclear club.

    And this is a "fog" from the author of the news. bully
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 3 December 2020 06: 26
      +2
      Quote: samarin1969
      With modern technology, terrorists could be more "careful": "heart", "car accident", "suicide", etc. ... Everything looks like a demonstrative warning about "long arms".

      this was an open demonstration, with blood. "heart attack" would not impress anyone.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 3 December 2020 06: 35
        +1
        this was an open demonstration, with blood.
        The patient seems to have been cured of all diseases ... the doctors turned out to have a lethal medicine ... a remote machine-gun installation ... how ingenious they are. hiI would not have thought of such impudence.
    2. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 3 December 2020 13: 16
      +3
      Quote: samarin1969
      Everything looks like a demonstrative warning about "long arms".

      Exactly. This is an Action. And this is its main meaning.
      And, the personality of the deceased is somewhat secondary.
  6. Revolver
    Revolver 3 December 2020 07: 57
    +2
    Do not forget, he was not only a scientist, but also a general. Moreover, not the army, but the IRGC - the same thing under the Ayatollah as the SS was under Hitler.
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 3 December 2020 10: 13
      -1
      The IRGC is the same under the Ayatollah as the SS was under Hitler.
      Can you my friend get to know more about the history of the SS and the crimes of the Nazi before drawing such analogies?
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 3 December 2020 11: 00
        +4
        Can you, my son, familiarize yourself with the history of the IRGC and the terrorist attacks committed directly by the IRGC and, with its submission, by Hezbollons, before making such statements?
        1. Threaded screw
          Threaded screw 3 December 2020 11: 04
          -1
          history of the IRGC and terrorist attacks
          The murder of tens of millions of people is, in your opinion, a terrorist attack? Why are you putting an owl on the globe?
          committed directly by the IRGC and, at its filing, by Hezbollons
          Why is a mossad with an IDF better?
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 3 December 2020 11: 07
            +5
            So the possibilities are not the same. Iran to Germany as to China with cancer. But they hope to catch up, and if they are allowed to get hold of missiles and nuclear warheads for them, there may be no less casualties.
            1. Threaded screw
              Threaded screw 3 December 2020 11: 11
              -4
              So the possibilities are not the same. Iran to Germany
              In what, specifically?
              But they hope to catch up
              Facts in the studio
              there may be no less victims.
              It may not be. But let's kill them just in case, we are white and fluffy and they ...
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 3 December 2020 11: 15
                +1
                Yes, almost every week they officially declare that they are going to destroy Israel since 1979. And there are probably more Jews in Israel than killed in Auschwitz. Like to finish what Hitler started.
                1. Threaded screw
                  Threaded screw 3 December 2020 11: 17
                  -1
                  Like to finish what Hitler started.
                  Where did they make such a statement?
                  declare that they are going to destroy Israel
                  In response to the incessant terrorist attacks on Israel and real killings and not statements?
                  Do you really believe that if they had nuclear weapons, other than throwing it on Israel, there would be no more brains for anything, like South Korea is in place, India and Pakistan too, and Iran will decide to self-destruct laughing ? Honestly, do you believe that?
                  1. Vitaly gusin
                    Vitaly gusin 3 December 2020 13: 29
                    +3
                    Quote: Threaded screw
                    Where did they make such a statement?

                    Here's the last one.
                    “In fact, we must attack the important port city of Haifa in such a way that, in addition to destroying facilities, it also leads heavy human casualties.
                    WELL, NOW FROM THE FORMER.
                    Khamenei stated : “The position of Iran is that a cancer called Israel must be eradicated from the region "
                    "Imam [Khomeini]
                    “According to the Supreme Leader's statement celebrating Navruz, that Tel Aviv and Haifa will be destroyed…. The Armed Forces are ready with all their might to fulfill the orders of the Supreme Leader in the shortest possible time "
                    I will translate into Russian for you.
                    These are children, including those who have just been born, women, the elderly and very old people.
                    If this is not convincing to you, I can cite a dozen of such statements.
                    Give at least ONE such statement by Israel aside THE PEOPLE Iran
                    Now about the destruction itself.
                    Blaming Israel is nothing new.
                    Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said that it was Israel is to blame in an explosion in the port of Beirut, which killed 178 people.
                    Only when the participation of this or that country is proven. it will be possible to talk about it.
                    NOW, ABOUT THE PERSONALITY OF THE SCIENTIST.
                    Who was he, general or scientist?
                    You are right, he was both a general and a scientist, but for his scientific and general development, the UN Security Council resolution imposed sanctions on him due to his work on prohibited military nuclear developments.
                    History knows and remembers another doctor, a learned officer who escaped punishment for his scientific developments. But then he was found in Brazil in 1979, drowned on a deserted beach.
                    If you do not remember his name, I will remind you
                    Josef Mengele.
                    Whether you like it or not, Israel will not allow what happened to its people.
                    1. Threaded screw
                      Threaded screw 3 December 2020 15: 54
                      +1
                      Where did they make a statement that they are the successors of Hitler's cause ???
                      1. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 3 December 2020 19: 19
                        +1
                        Quote: Threaded screw
                        Where did they make a statement that they are the successors of Hitler's cause ???

                        If everything is fine with your carving, you can compare the statements of the modern rulers of Iran with the one that was 79 years ago.

                        In November 1941, Husseini brought a new document with him to Berlin. It was the draft of an official declaration in which Germany was to recognize the Arab right to independence and freedom and to support the destruction of the Jewish national home in Palestine.
                        On November 20, Husseini met with German Foreign Minister Joachim Ribbentrop and presented him with his draft. He explained that a united Arab state should be created on the territory of Iraq, Syria, Transjordan and Palestine.
                        Well, what's the difference in thoughts and statements?
                        AND THE DIFFERENCE IS ONLY IN THAT TODAY THERE IS THE STATE OF ISRAEL, WHICH BREAKING THE HANDS AND LEGS OF ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DO THIS.
                      2. Sergey Sfiedu
                        Sergey Sfiedu 6 December 2020 18: 03
                        0
                        The Fuhrer is very popular with Muslims in the Middle East. I remember that Sadat's portrait was hanging in his office; he took it off only at the urgent request of Soviet advisers.
  7. sidoroff
    sidoroff 3 December 2020 11: 27
    +2
    judging by the number of voiced liquidation options, the "Zionist formation" did not attack one peaceful nuclear engineer, but the entire Academy of Sciences of I.G. Iran. to the physics department, at least.
    1. MoJloT
      MoJloT 3 December 2020 11: 29
      0
      not one peaceful nuclear engineer was attacked
      Specifically on this, this is at least the second attempt, successful ...
  8. DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 3 December 2020 13: 13
    +1
    In fact, the VIP passenger was shot by a remotely controlled robot and then exploded ...
    The organizers of the assassination attempt knew all such subtleties and carried out a rather complicated operation to eliminate ...

    Which nation in the world considers itself the most creative?
    Especially in all sorts of nasty things.
    And if so, the operation, which was simple in design, but complicated in execution, was actually wasted.

    I do not think.
    They don't think so. They believe that it was also the Action. And, therefore, at least a few of the set of tasks she completed.
  9. kirillovleva
    kirillovleva 3 December 2020 13: 41
    +2
    Driving the heads of the special services, they eat their bread clearly in vain. No security, no normal armored car, and for some reason the car is on the sidelines.
  10. Merry_Militarist
    Merry_Militarist 3 December 2020 13: 53
    +2
    And I am on the side of Israel in this matter, it cannot be allowed. for a state like Iran to enter the "nuclear club", in fact, Israel would work for the benefit of all members of this closed and, thank God, small community.
  11. Old26
    Old26 3 December 2020 15: 08
    +5
    Quote: Threaded Screw
    The IRGC is the same under the Ayatollah as the SS was under Hitler.
    Can you my friend get to know more about the history of the SS and the crimes of the Nazi before drawing such analogies?

    But in principle, "Nagan" is right. The position of the IRGC in the scheme of the Iranian armed forces is about the same as the position of the Waffen SS in Germany. In fact, the "second" army, which is superior in equipment and the "first". And we are not talking about the crimes of the Nazis in this context, but about the power structure in the state system. And in this regard, in fact, you can put an equal sign between them
    1. Both in the first (SS) and in the second (IRGC) version - these are armed formations of especially devoted fighters. Moreover, subordinate not to the President, General Staff or Minister of Defense, but directly to the spiritual leader
    2. And in the first and second case, the weapons of these structures are superior to the army.
    3. In principle, both are primarily aimed at the political opponents of their leader ...

    So I repeat, "Nagant" is not so wrong
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 3 December 2020 15: 59
      +4
      as well as the position of the Waffen SS in Germany. In fact, the "second" army
      Well, comment then, for example, the Russian Guard, preferably on their website right away laughing
  12. Old26
    Old26 3 December 2020 16: 27
    +4
    Quote: Threaded Screw
    as well as the position of the Waffen SS in Germany. In fact, the "second" army
    Well, comment then, for example, the Russian Guard, preferably on their website right away laughing

    And where does the Russian Guard and what does it have in common with the same IRGC? Something I have not heard about the fact that in the same Rosgvardia there were parallel to the Russian army its own strategic missile forces, a fleet superior to the Russian Navy, aviation better equipped than the Russian Aerospace Forces
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 3 December 2020 16: 41
      +1
      And where does the Russian Guard
      Well, of course, you won't admit that under your definition of the Waffen SS with a revolver, a lot of things fall into the world, but you can hear about heavy weapons, aviation and even the underwater weapons of the Russian Guard on the Internet. One of the biased stupidity said, the second repeats.
  13. Jünger
    Jünger 3 December 2020 16: 31
    +1
    Just like in the movie "Kill the Jackal". There, too, they fired from a remote machine gun in the car.
  14. Old26
    Old26 3 December 2020 16: 48
    +4
    Quote: Threaded Screw
    And where does the Russian Guard
    Well, of course, you won't admit that under your definition of the Waffen SS with a revolver, a lot of things fall into the world, but you can hear about heavy weapons, aviation and even the underwater weapons of the Russian Guard on the Internet. One of the biased stupidity said, the second repeats.

    Well, voice the lists of ships and aircraft of the Russian Guard, the list of strategic missiles in service with this structure.
    Many things in the world do not fall under the definition of the same Waffen SS. Rarely in any country are there forces repaired not by the country's leader (president), the General Staff or the Ministry of Defense, but directly subordinate to religious leaders. But even if such structures can be found in other countries, they are not suitable for the same IRGC. For in terms of the degree of armament, the IRGC is the most similar to the Waffen-SS. Unless the number of the Waffen-SS was less ...
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 3 December 2020 16: 56
      -3
      Well, voice the lists of ships and aircraft of the Russian Guard
      You can read everything you can know on the Internet, the rest is not allowed, but CC fits your definition
    2. Iris
      Iris 5 December 2020 14: 42
      +1
      A perfectly fair analogy. The only difference is that Himmler did not have his own aviation, while the IRGC does.
  15. Old26
    Old26 3 December 2020 17: 12
    +2
    Quote: Threaded Screw
    Well, voice the lists of ships and aircraft of the Russian Guard
    You can read everything you can know on the Internet, the rest is not allowed, but CC fits your definition

    Clearly, the drain is credited to you. What is supposed to know about the Rosgvardia - I know, and I know that they have no missile forces, no combat fleet, no combat aviation. But proving something to you seems like a pointless business. They resisted, offended, that they compared the position of the IRGC in the structure of the state with the position of the Waffen-SS - that's all. You no longer perceive the arguments
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 3 December 2020 17: 20
      +1
      Clearly, the drain is credited to you.
      Tell me the list of strategic missiles, aviation and the Waffen SS fleet, they resisted (with subtext) that the IRGC is the SS, and you can't perceive anything. Is the US National Guard also SS? By the way, they are armed with some modern types of weapons that are not even in the Russian army. I think you don't just need to understand something. The IRGC is the IRGC, and the SS war criminals are the SS
  16. Old26
    Old26 3 December 2020 17: 45
    +2
    Quote: Threaded screw
    Tell me the list of strategic missiles, aviation and the Waffen SS fleet, they resisted (with subtext) that the IRGC is the SS, and you can't perceive anything. Is the US National Guard also SS? By the way, they are armed with some modern types of weapons that are not even in the Russian army. I think you don't just need to understand something.

    The US National Guard is part of the US military, its active reserve, and not a "second" army like the IRGC. And their subordination is exactly the same as that of the army. President (Supreme Commander-in-Chief). In fact, the National Guard is a kind of territorial part of the army. They have aviation, but not nearly as powerful as the armed forces. About 600 machines of the F-15, F-16 and A-10 types. The only bomber squadron is on the B-2A.
    You cannot even understand that no one says that the IRGC is the SS. It is said that in the structure of the state, the IRGC occupies the same place as the SS in Germany.
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 3 December 2020 17: 56
      +1
      And their subordination is exactly the same as that of the army.
      laughing You want to tell the US Army will follow the orders of the governor of the state where is it?
      It is said that the IRGC occupies the same place in the state structure as the SS in Germany.
      Why exactly SS in Germany if we have already decided that a lot of things fall under your comb.
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      2. Threaded screw
        Threaded screw 3 December 2020 18: 08
        0
        And what was the SS under Hitler, we all know perfectly well, even if the structure is somewhat similar, it is not the SS under Hitler, and the person gave such an example in relation to Israel for a reason, think about it, this is a provocation. The IRGC is the IRGC, and Hitler and the SS are well, you get the idea.
  17. Old26
    Old26 3 December 2020 18: 31
    +3
    Quote: Threaded Screw
    And their subordination is exactly the same as that of the army.
    laughing You want to tell the US Army will follow the orders of the governor of the state where is it?
    It is said that the IRGC occupies the same place in the state structure as the SS in Germany.
    Why exactly SS in Germany if we have already decided that a lot of things fall under your comb.

    The subordination of the National Guard troops is twofold. Federal (to the President as supreme commander in chief) and the state. The state (governor) can activate the troops of the national guard in the event of an emergency. By decision of the president, it can be used as support for the US army outside the state. The US Armed Forces have only federal subordination.
    "Much" that exists in other countries is either central (federal) subordination, or double. In contrast to this, the IRGC is subordinate only to the spiritual leader, not subordinate to the General Staff, the Minister of Defense, the President. The IRGC is the second army. Subordination - exactly like the Waffen-SS, and not like structures in other countries
  18. Shahno
    Shahno 3 December 2020 20: 09
    +2
    Quote: Threaded Screw
    And what was the SS under Hitler, we all know perfectly well, even if the structure is somewhat similar, it is not the SS under Hitler, and the person gave such an example in relation to Israel for a reason, think about it, this is a provocation. The IRGC is the IRGC, and Hitler and the SS are well, you get the idea.

    Dear, of course I'm sorry ... But you cannot be objective in assessing the activities of the IRGC. At least until you stop being influenced by the anti-Israel hype. Take a sober look for a second, without emotion, leave the brainwashing outside.
    In fact, both Old and Nagant are right. In fact.
    Ps. The object, after all, was not a civilian ... He was involved in whipping up all this nuclear hysteria, and far from being a civilian, so he knew what he was doing.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 December 2020 22: 09
      +2
      Quote: Shahno
      Take a sober look for a second, without emotion, leave the brainwashing outside.

      Is this a dream or a New Year's wish?
      But unfortunately, this is a dialogue between the deaf and the blind.
      AND OLD AS OUR WORLD.
      "Why should I be considered a thug and a bandit
      Isn't it better to get into the anti-Semites
      On their side, although there are no laws
      The support and enthusiasm of millions
      "
    2. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 4 December 2020 11: 48
      -1
      Quote: Shahno
      Ps. The object, after all, was not a civilian ... He was involved in whipping up all this nuclear hysteria, and far from being a civilian, so he knew what he was doing.

      I want to point out that in my opinion, the "Object" may be alive.
      However, many commentators compare him to Mengele. I would like to ask if there is an international legal act (International Tribunal or UN resolution) that recognized this scientist as a war criminal or a person guilty of genocide of any people?
      From the point of view of Iranian criminal law, international law, an individual cannot be "executed" (brought to justice) without a guilty verdict (guilt must be proven). If, of course, this event took place ...
      In this case, an indicative attempt (if it really was) is a failure of the spec. services, as it is associated with publicity.
      If such events are held, it means that there is an imbalance in the world, justice is carried out on the basis of the law of the strong, and not according to the established order in the world (m / n tribunal or UN).
      During the Soviet era, such activities carried out by the "services" of socialist countries or NATO members and countries in the US zone of influence were mostly not made public and "issues" were sometimes resolved between representatives of the warring special services.
  19. svoit
    svoit 3 December 2020 23: 27
    +1
    Quote: Cottodraton
    How, in a closed country, do the secret services of Israel and the United States joke?

    The USSR was also no less a closed country, but this did not interfere with the special services so much that they would not joke around with us
    Quote: Old26
    Subordination - exactly like the Waffen-SS, and not like structures in other countries

    So the cardinal's guards were the forerunners of the SS?
    1. Iris
      Iris 5 December 2020 14: 38
      0
      So the cardinal's guards were the forerunners of the SS?


      A funny and at the same time a subtle remark! hi
      In fact - yes, for its time, to some extent. The Waffen SS, like the SS as a whole, were subordinate directly to Himmler, and already through him to Hitler, completely bypassing the Wehrmacht's subordination structure (one of the results of such a system, by the way, is poor interaction on the battlefield). Well, here, in the XNUMXth century, the same thing: direct submission to the cardinal, and already through him - to the king.
  20. Alexeya2709
    Alexeya2709 4 December 2020 00: 14
    +1
    "but no armored car corresponding to the passenger's status was found."
    Not an Ayatollah! You need to understand. I met with one author - if the management does not understand something, it does not deserve it
  21. Iris
    Iris 5 December 2020 15: 08
    +1
    I don’t understand why everyone got the idea that this was some kind of terrorist attack? What words - "a secret operation of the special services"! .. Yes, this is just an ordinary accident in a long line of those like her! .. Everyone knows that a nuclear physicist is a dangerous profession, but it becomes especially dangerous if the employer is chosen incorrectly, in our case - The IRGC. Taking care of the life and health of young Iranian scientists, Israel has repeatedly pointed out this important circumstance, but, unfortunately, had no success .. This is so natural - scientific ambition does not allow young talents to sleep peacefully! Why should we be surprised now - the tragic accident was actually a foregone conclusion ..
    But what can inspire hope for the future to members of the forum who are so concerned about the death of this wretched - the Guardian of the Islamic Revolution, fostering a peaceful atom under the shadow of academic laurels? Oh, only one thing - the State Association of Life Insurers in Iran has decided not to insure the life and health of people in this dangerous profession anymore! Hopefully the chain of chance will finally break .. crying