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"I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories" - Prime Minister of Japan

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"I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories" - Prime Minister of Japan

The Prime Minister of Japan held a meeting with representatives of local authorities. The delegation that arrived from Hokkaido to Tokyo was led by the head of the prefecture Nemuro. The prefecture bears the same name as its main city. It differs from many other Japanese cities in that there are bilingual signs on its streets (in Japanese and Russian), as well as the presence of stands on which the South Kuril Islands are designated as "part of the territory of Japan."


The NHK news service reports that the prefects from the island of Hokkaido arrived at the prime minister's residence in order to "urge the head of government of the country to resolve the issue with the northern territories." Recall that in Japan they continue to call the Russian South Kuriles this way.

One prefect said he "expresses great hope that Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga will develop strong diplomacy in concluding a peace treaty with Russia." From an address to the prime minister:

I hope that the bright hopes of those who lived on the islands, their children and grandchildren, will already become full-fledged masters in their native land.

The Japanese prime minister said that "75 years after the war, the problem of the northern territories has not been resolved." Yoshihide Suga:

A peace treaty has not yet been signed. We must sign it as soon as possible. I am determined in this regard. I spoke with Vladimir Putin on the phone in September. And I told him that I would put an end to the problem of the northern territories, not postponing it until the next generations.

According to the Japanese Prime Minister, he "is ready to go to the solution of the problem progressively."

Earlier in Moscow, it was repeatedly emphasized that Russia has no problems with the Kuriles, and if someone has, then this is their problem.
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  1. Woodman
    Woodman 1 December 2020 14: 57
    +54
    I spoke with Vladimir Putin on the phone in September. And I told him that I would put an end to the problem of the northern territories, not postponing it until the next generations.

    Putin heard him.
    The crews of the S-300V4 anti-aircraft missile system of the Eastern Military District took up combat duty for air defense on the islands of the Kuril ridge
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 1 December 2020 15: 30
      +61
      No, I certainly understand everything, politicians should say what voters want to hear from them, but there is a limit to everything. One at his father's grave vowed to do seppuku, but apparently the wrong samurai went today. Before, for a samurai, shame was washed off only with blood, but today the man is the master of his word, he gave his word, and then he took the word.
      I don’t think that Putin will agree to exchange the Kurill’s territories; this will definitely become a swan song for him after his tricks with pension reform, etc. But here is the guarantee that after him there will not appear a new drunk, labeled or some regular Yakovlev. The so-called amendments to the constitution, instead of a 100% guarantee of not seizing territories, only confuse this issue, since the wording is so vague that there, under the pretext of demarcation, half of Russia can be given away.
      So with all the desire to twist a fig for the Japanese (by the way, they have a completely different meaning), I would refrain from hurray-patriotic sentiments about the Kuril Islands. Judging by the fact that there is no categorical NO from our Foreign Ministry and the President, and rumors about some kind of negotiations are being circulated, not everything is so simple, apparently all the same bargaining is possible. And since there is an item for bargaining, sooner or later someone will offer a price for which they will be sold.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 1 December 2020 15: 57
        +39
        I told Putin that I would put an end to the problem of the northern territories ..

        Only Putin himself can end this problem.
        How?
        Yes, build a modern village on each of the large islands of the Kuril ridge, a port infrastructure, a fishing fleet, factories for the breeding and processing of fish and other seafood. Reduce, or even completely abolish, the tax burden for fish processors, so that it is profitable to process your chum salmon and pink salmon at home and not surrender for currency to Japan, Korea or China.
        Life on the skeletons will boil. And the Japanese will see that there is no chance for them.
        Russians live and work there ...
        1. Alexander Suvorov
          Alexander Suvorov 1 December 2020 16: 07
          +37
          Absolutely true, but unlikely. Putin is more likely to play his favorite game: "I will not give, but if I give it not to you." I would like to put an end to the problem, it would have been announced long ago that there will be NO NEGOTIATIONS, THE PROBLEM IS CLOSED FOR RUSSIA AND DOES NOT EXIST!
          And the way it is now - it's not at all. The Yapas need not so much the islands themselves as the sea around them, although the islands themselves have something to take, but the main thing is the sea.
          Sadly, but we will sell everything anyway, the taiga is cut out and sold to China, the Yapas catch everything in our waters with almost impunity, and what they don't catch, ours are smuggled out to them. Now in the Russian Federation, as in the Republic of Ingushetia, everything is bought and everything is sold. It's just that it is now more profitable for our comprador elite to trade in Russia in parts than all at once.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 1 December 2020 16: 52
            -3
            And the way it is now - it's not at all.

            Well, since you are like that, then let's get busy concluding a peace treaty.
            We all here at VO look forward to your success. We will all applaud.
            1. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov 1 December 2020 17: 51
              +25
              Alex777 (Alexander)
              Well, since you are like that, then let's get busy concluding a peace treaty.
              We all here at VO look forward to your success. We will all applaud.
              But there is no need to flirt. You understand perfectly well that this is a bunch of puddles. Neither I, nor you, nor any of those present here decide anything, and we will never decide. The authorities have been lying on our opinion for a long time, since the referendum on the preservation of the USSR. So your bunch is not counted, but the deflection is quite good. laughing
              1. krot
                krot 2 December 2020 09: 14
                -1
                I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories "- Prime Minister of Japan

                The only way he can do this is to assert that these territories belong to Russia!
            2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 1 December 2020 18: 23
              +3
              Quote: Alex777
              since you are like that, then go ahead, get busy

              His remark does not contradict yours. Those who put the end to our land in Japan got divorced largely due to our vague position on this issue. You propose to articulate a position clearly in deeds, he in words. I believe that neither the second nor the first will hurt.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 1 December 2020 18: 25
                0
                I was not going to contradict. wink
                Our islands - everything is clear here.
                But a peace treaty is also needed.
                Therefore, negotiations are underway.
                As far as I am aware, only about the contract. hi
                1. Krev
                  Krev 1 December 2020 23: 20
                  +5
                  But a peace treaty is also needed.

                  It is possible here in more detail please.
                  Why do we need a peace treaty with Japan?
                  What does a peace treaty give us?
                  What can be negotiated with a literally militarily occupied country? (is it possible?)
                  Did we have a peace treaty signed with Germany or Italy?

                  This is not the first time I have here told my vision: the appearance of the negotiation process is the phantom pains of the grandchildren of Japanese Nazis. They were promised new / old lands by the striped owners, while squeezing the whole island of Okinawa from the Yap. And they tease this carrot and take the Japanese around for decades around the Kuril Islands. Soon there will be no survivors with whom this porridge (carrot) was brewed, and at the level of the subconscious of the nation, the memory of the "lost" islands is kept.
                  In general, the meaning here is that our leaders (finally) realized over the long decades that the same carrot can be used to lure a Japanese donkey out of the stall of striped owners. Every time the Yapas drag out a song about the islands, they are immediately poked with their noses about the military bases in Okinawa, about their own military, political, and financial and economic independence. And yet, I suspect they are normally poked into recognizing the results of the Second World War. Kolchak's gold should be a must. It would be nice to voice the claims to the island of Matsmai (aka Hokaido). The Ainu accepted Russian citizenship, it would be necessary to hint at the genocide of the Russian people ...
                  The goal is clear, while talking about carrots to lure the Yaps out of the stall. When they return Okinawa to themselves, they will not have time for us there for 50 years. And there, you see, either the padishah dies, or the donkey dies (and that's another story ...) :)
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 2 December 2020 14: 18
                    -1
                    Why do we need a peace treaty with Japan?

                    Because signing it will confirm that the islands are ours.
                    What does a peace treaty give us?

                    In Japan, there is an understanding that large-scale cooperation with Russia (investment, trade, etc.) is possible after the signing of an agreement.
                    What can be negotiated with a literally militarily occupied country? (is it possible?)

                    A rolling stone gathers no moss.
                    We need to swing the situation there anyway.
                    Does the United States kick us in Moldova with the withdrawal of troops?
                    The Yankers will still leave Afgan. Although how they breathed. wink
                    As they say - nothing lasts forever under the moon.
                    The goal is clear, while talking about carrots to lure the Yaps out of the stall.

                    That's it! hi
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 1 December 2020 16: 38
          +1
          Quote: Doccor18
          Russians live and work there.

          The two-faced descendants of the samurai even hung up signs in Russian. like let's go to a new home, like someone will take their cheap trick. laughing
        3. Plastmaster
          Plastmaster 1 December 2020 19: 45
          -3
          Agaaaa, and then all the infraaaaa, ugh damn it. Sell ​​everything. And sell with full ends. Of course, we will be worried and indignant ..., ... write comments, etc.
        4. mole
          mole 1 December 2020 22: 38
          +3
          Quote: Doccor18

          Yes, build a modern village on each of the large islands of the Kuril ridge, a port infrastructure, a fishing fleet, factories for the breeding and processing of fish and other seafood. Reduce, or even completely abolish, the tax burden for fish processors, so that it is profitable to process your chum salmon and pink salmon at home and not surrender for currency to Japan, Korea or China.
          Life on the skeletons will boil. And the Japanese will see that there is no chance for them.
          Russians live and work there ...

          So such a decision suggests itself, only our leaders have their own opinion - capitalist. Unprofitable! Especially if Russians live and work there.
        5. Fitter65
          Fitter65 1 December 2020 23: 56
          -1
          Quote: Doccor18
          Only Putin himself can end this problem.
          How?
          Yes, build a modern village on each of the large islands of the Kuril ridge, a port infrastructure, a fishing fleet, factories for the breeding and processing of fish and other seafood.

          Yes, rather, apple trees will bloom on Mars.
        6. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 3 December 2020 21: 30
          0
          Japanese journalists are already hysterical .. because this is what Putin is doing .. as I recently read from one Japanese: "if we delay the return issue, we will have nothing more to offer the locals" .. He wrote this after visiting the islands as a tourist
      2. whitebeard
        whitebeard 1 December 2020 18: 26
        -11%
        If the exchange of non-strategic Small South Kuriles will be for full-scale economic cooperation (first of all, the joint infrastructure of the Yap freight railway transit to Europe, with 2 bridges and the renewal of all related infrastructure + a pipe from Sakhalin-2 directly to Yapia, and all this is mainly for Japanese money), then it can go. Well, and the issue of society in Putin's Russia is generally meaningless to take into account - note-taking kvasso-patriots can be angry as much as they want, but if the Zeroed economy prospects of exchange turn out to be more profitable, then this part of the Kuriles will be fused. And rightly so, in general - you need to be able to exchange underdeveloped territories, for the development of which there are neither funds nor forces, for mutually beneficial economic cooperation.
        1. Kisa
          Kisa 1 December 2020 20: 21
          +1
          probably it's not even about the Japs. A couple of weeks ago, the new Asian cooperation of RCEP took shape with 15 countries. China Korea Japan bankrupt. a third of world trade, GDP $ 25 trillion, population 2,2 billion. dollar-free zone ... that's where you need to lean if you correctly build
        2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 1 December 2020 21: 02
          +3
          Quote: whitebeard
          If

          Changing your own land for "if" is even cooler than for beads.
        3. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 8 December 2020 20: 00
          0
          Oh, what a "naive youth". Apparently you think that you will get paid for such an offer, when executed. No. Get your salary that's all. The award will not even be discharged.
      3. shadow
        shadow 1 December 2020 18: 33
        +1
        There is no limit, but there is lawlessness.
      4. Plastmaster
        Plastmaster 1 December 2020 19: 40
        +1
        This is what scares someone to suggest something. And the same heck, he won't remember what he promised again.
      5. Kisa
        Kisa 1 December 2020 19: 47
        +6
        add two plus two elementary - yesterday about the demography in the Far East today about the Kuriles and so every week ... they will prepare an opinion beautifully - demarcation of the border, two islands, joint use, some kind of lease ... yes there are a lot of tools Skabeyeva Soloviev know the work .. ...
        pension reform or a rapidly emptying region - there is a vital need to solve it with unpopular methods ... I think it will happen - not just a shadow on the fence ...
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 8 December 2020 19: 56
          +1
          And at the root of the problem lies the loot that the oligarchs “righteously amassed” and “righteously” live on and multiply. And which, the banks, at the click of the Fed, will be taken away from them.
      6. Alexey from Perm
        Alexey from Perm 2 December 2020 00: 56
        +3
        It is high time to understand that the traders are sitting in the Kremlin, if they see the benefit, they will give it back
      7. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 8 December 2020 19: 54
        +1
        I agree. The same Putin said that while he was president, there was no increase in the retirement age. He is the president - the retirement age has been raised. Therefore, the Kuril Islands can be sold or leased. Never mind. And knowing the history, the Kuril Islands have already, once, given to Japan, in 1875, if I'm not mistaken. They decided to moderate Japan's appetites. They died, up to half of Sakhalin. Now capitalism, you can make the oligarchs fight for yachts, but how it will come out is not clear. Most likely, they will pass. Not now, so in 10 years. History teaches, Japan understands ONLY strength. And "our" government is doing everything possible to weaken the Far East economically and demographically. How will it end? "Tsushima"! How much smarter the "bloody Stalin" was.
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    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 December 2020 16: 24
      +7
      Quote: Lesovik
      I spoke with Vladimir Putin on the phone in September. And I told him that I would put an end to the problem of the northern territories, not postponing it until the next generations.

      He, this Prime Minister Yoshihide, thinks in the right direction that he will put the Kuril problem down. He just needs to curl clearly "We have no claims against Russia in the Kuriles"and all problems will disappear once and for all.
    4. astepanov
      astepanov 1 December 2020 16: 44
      +2
      The Japanese prime minister said well and correctly! Decisively. How is it with him: "I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories!" I think Russia will not interfere.
    5. Alex777
      Alex777 1 December 2020 16: 58
      +1
      Putin heard him.

      The Japanese Prime Minister can conclude a peace treaty without any conditions.
      Let him do this. We don't mind. hi
    6. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 3 December 2020 21: 28
      -1
      Well, what can Putin do ... this is already the ELEVENTH Japanese Prime Minister, who promises to press him to the nail and take the islands for himself ...
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 1 December 2020 15: 01
    +8
    I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories
    What arrogant !!! And where did these problems come from? The act of surrender was signed. Code!
    1. Merry_Militarist
      Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 15: 57
      -6
      In fairness, in a conventional conflict, the Japanese Navy will make the Pacific Fleet in one wicket, because our politicians systematically put a bolt on the Pacific fleet, as well as on the development of the Far East.
      Such a moment, because of a couple of islands, Vova and company, will not use nuclear weapons and even threaten them, they will perform on a durascope and, making a sad face, will be asked to "treat with understanding."
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 1 December 2020 16: 10
        -5
        Interestingly, an attack on the country, the death of Russian military personnel, a declaration of war on the Russian Federation, the capture of Sakhalin and access to Vladivostok, are you serious about understanding?)
        1. Merry_Militarist
          Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 16: 16
          +3
          We are talking exclusively about two or three islands, I have not written about any Sakhalin and Vladivostok. Oh, listen, my dear, and the shooting down of a bomber by the Turks and the death of high-ranking officers of the RF Armed Forces, something there entailed, remind me? And the murder of the Russian ambassador? All this miserable Turkey got up.
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 1 December 2020 16: 18
            -4
            Well, it's not a politician sitting on the islands with one plane! You are looking at the extremes! It's one thing when politicians / people are killed, a country with protocols of protection against attack does it, so it's stupid to start a nuclear war for the sake of two or three people, treat this with understanding, another thing: an attack with the aim of destroying the integrity of the COUNTRY, this is another matter!
            1. Merry_Militarist
              Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 16: 23
              +4
              Again, to a nuclear war, for the shot down - I, mind you, also did not call, this is just your speculation, but it might be worth it to bleed the Turkish aviation a little by the same methods.
              Understand the simple context: the current leaders do not have the political will to make difficult decisions.
              1. hydroy
                hydroy 1 December 2020 17: 22
                -1
                They blew up a bus with pilots, handed the needle over to the Kurds and they shot down a couple of helicopters, what else do you need?
                1. Merry_Militarist
                  Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 17: 34
                  -2
                  Answer, so-so, you know, if she ever was. Imagine: The whole world sees how some Turkey is shooting down a Russian Aerospace Forces plane with impunity, and after that there is no answer to her, is this not a loss of face? In order to return the "image" since we are so fond of playing on it, then it was necessary to act directly in a mirror.
                  And what were they given to the Kurds? Is this not the one that the Americans and the Germans take care of and supply them with? So they agreed to work for Vova.
                  1. Krev
                    Krev 1 December 2020 23: 43
                    -5
                    Imagine: The whole world sees how some Turkey is shooting down an airplane of the Russian Aerospace Forces with impunity, and after that there is no answer to her, is this not a loss of face?

                    What's the most valuable thing on an airplane? That's right - a pilot.
                    But now you can imagine, funny you are not ours: A pair of pilots in an airplane against a whole bus of pilots. So who has lost more? Obviously to everyone except you.

                    In order to return the "image" since we are so fond of playing on it, then it was necessary to act directly in a mirror.

                    It’s good that in our country there are not so many complete idiots, unlike yours in the area. Bulls act in a mirror-like and straightforward manner. Therefore, to overwhelm the bull, one drill of the bullfighter is enough. The main thing is to wave a red rag in front of a brick wall ...

                    And stop speculating, everyone has long understood whose ears were sticking out behind Erdogan.
                    1. Merry_Militarist
                      Merry_Militarist 2 December 2020 00: 53
                      +3
                      Did the Turks generally understand that this mythical explosion of the bus by the Kurds is Russia's answer for the pilots, and not another action of the Kurdistan Workers' Party?
                    2. Merry_Militarist
                      Merry_Militarist 2 December 2020 01: 01
                      +2
                      It’s good that in our country there are not so many complete idiots, unlike yours in the area. Bulls act in a mirror-like and straightforward manner. Therefore, to overwhelm the bull, one drill of the bullfighter is enough. The main thing is to wave a red rag in front of a brick wall ...

                      And stop speculating, everyone has long understood whose ears were sticking out behind Erdogan.

                      Whose voices have you whispered that I am Ukrainian? Or everyone who has an opinion, from the opinion of "local experts" - repeaters of thoughts from the duroscope - are they certainly residents of the Square?
                      And ... well, yes, another multi-way POINT from Vova.
                      And Israel is acting straightforwardly and powerfully, for example, for an ordinary soldier (Gilad Shalit) they are ready to overturn the whole of Palestine, and then a whole colonel is shot down, and we only threateningly promise an "answer", yeah.
                      So yes, whose ears were sticking out behind Erdogan, bring a cat with a lamp, tell another drop dead story
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 1 December 2020 16: 16
        +2
        Come on, Merry (Nick). In our kingdom-state there is always a national hero (a drunken lieutenant who, on a blue bench, can become a LIEUTENANT GENERAL) With that mood of the people (not MAASKVOBAD and Proud NAAsorogov), we should not write off the self-determination of the decisions of us sinners) ))) Not everything is decided by politicians, maybe the same lieutenant and contract soldier with frustration light a match.
      3. Yura
        Yura 1 December 2020 17: 24
        -4
        Quote: Merry_Militarist
        Such a moment, because of a couple of islands, Vova and company, will not use nuclear weapons

        You are mistaken, they will apply and this is the first thing that will be done in case of inclinations from Japan, and in principle any other country the same.
        1. Merry_Militarist
          Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 17: 37
          0
          The intestine is thin. If they don’t hand over, they will sell it. This has already happened more than once, Project "Novorossiya", for example, as an example. At first we climbed, and then we realized that the stakes were extremely high and the whole thing was abandoned.
          1. Yura
            Yura 1 December 2020 20: 03
            -5
            Quote: Merry_Militarist
            Project "Novorossiya"

            Was there such a project? If that was whose project? And yes, if Russia had such a project, you would have fun somewhere in Poland, if you were allowed to go there at all, one thing is migrant workers, the other refugees whom you feed, dress, give a roof over your head, and the return from you is only crumpled asphalt from jumps.
            1. Merry_Militarist
              Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 22: 42
              0
              And you, dear friend, how did you decide that I was Ukrainian? Did the voices in your head tell you this? And you pick up your spiteful resentment and do not show it to people whose opinion you do not like. Do not agree? Argument. And yes, firstly it was a "project" of such Vladislav Surkov from Vovina's gang, and secondly, I am never a Ukrainian.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 December 2020 16: 27
      +3
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And where did these problems come from? The act of surrender was signed. Code!

      Here Germany does not declare a claim against Poland regarding the illegally acquired Prussia and Pomerania, although Poland did not sign the act of surrender with Germany.
  3. Eldorado
    Eldorado 1 December 2020 15: 01
    +8
    It's time to prepare for war.
    God grant that we have time to place Yaseny-M and Borei-A in Vilyuchinsk, and Varshavyanka in Maly Ulysses.
    And more corvettes 20380/20385 are needed!
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 1 December 2020 16: 32
      +5
      It's time to prepare for war.

      Moreover, to the present! Prepare for the fact that they can also land on the islands. And you have to beat them off. And it's not a fact that the government will decide to use Yao. Rather, he will not dare ... Therefore, the Air Force and the Navy will be cleaning the islands. So they need to prepare.
      1. bk316
        bk316 3 December 2020 13: 52
        +1
        And it's not a fact that the government will decide to use Yao. Rather, he will not dare ...

        Have you ever been to Japan? This is a glass house. They do not need any nuclear weapons. Nuclear power plants close to cities, 3-4 level interchanges, skyscrapers close to each other and the flight time is minutes ...
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 3 December 2020 18: 18
          +1
          Have you ever been to Japan?

          A couple of times in Wakkanai raid.
          Nuclear power plants close to cities ..

          What happens if our missiles hit Japanese nuclear power plants? An ecological disaster that will cover half of Southeast Asia, including the entire Russian Primorye ...
          3-4 level interchanges, skyscrapers close to each other ...

          75 years ago, the Japanese fighting spirit was not broken even after the carpet bombing of Tokyo and two atomic strikes ... I do not think that today a hundred calibers can produce a more tangible effect ...
          A powerful fist: the air force, air defense and sane naval forces - that is what guarantees the security of our eastern borders.
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 1 December 2020 16: 56
      0
      And there are more frigates 20350. And Iskander. wink
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 1 December 2020 17: 13
        +2
        And frigates 20350

        22350 hi
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 1 December 2020 17: 13
          0
          Of course. The fry hastened. 22350! drinks
        2. Eldorado
          Eldorado 1 December 2020 18: 22
          0
          The first 22350 will replenish the Pacific Fleet no earlier than the summer of 2024. Maybe not in time ...
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 1 December 2020 18: 48
            0
            The first 22350 will replenish the Pacific Fleet no earlier than the summer of 2024. May not be in time.

            What to do...
            6-8 diesel-electric submarines and 2-3 Su-30 regiments with anti-aircraft missiles could somewhat cool the ardor of the Japanese revanchists ...
  4. VORON538
    VORON538 1 December 2020 15: 01
    +3
    The Prime Minister will say the same thing in 175 years, and in 275 years, and so on. hi
    Only the rulers of Russia, Japan and the seasons will change!
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 1 December 2020 15: 40
      +27
      You know, not a fact. In the Russo-Japanese War in Ingushetia, too, shapkozakidatelskie moods prevailed, such as where is Japan, and where is Ingushetia and WHAT in the end ?! As a result, we lost almost the entire fleet, and pumped everything we could.
      In Japan, they do not forget anything, they also remember that not only the Kurils belonged to them, but also half of Sakhalin was Japanese, so the appetite comes with eating.
      1. Romka47
        Romka47 1 December 2020 15: 48
        +5
        In the Russo-Japanese War in the Republic of Ingushetia, too, was dominated by shap-handed sentiments.
        You are right, but also do not forget about the Kwantung Army, and in general about how the "northern territories" of the Japanese have become problematic.
        1. Alexander Suvorov
          Alexander Suvorov 1 December 2020 15: 54
          +30
          Yes, I remember about the Kwantung Army and everything else.
          Here the question is different, WHO IS THE GOVERNMENT IN RUSSIA AT THE MOMENT ... !!! It's one thing when a country is ruled by such a GIANT as Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, and quite another when it is ruled by such squalor as the bloody Nikolashka, the corncracker, the tagged bear or the drunkard struggle. Agree, the results are mirrored. And excuse Putin, too, is VERY far from Stalin!
          1. Romka47
            Romka47 2 December 2020 10: 39
            0
            I agree with you, here is not to add or subtract.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 December 2020 16: 32
        0
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        In Japan they do not forget anything, they also remember that not only the Kurils belonged to them, but half of Sakhalin was Japanese,

        Yes, it was not the RI army that profited, but the efforts of Witte and the Americans.
        1. georgiigennadievitch
          georgiigennadievitch 1 December 2020 17: 05
          +2
          According to you, "profukal" is not Witte, but N-2. And the Japanese ran out of money that the British had borrowed for the war, and the most combat-ready units suffered heavy losses. It was they who requested peace negotiations. And the tsar was frightened by the unrest in Russia (the first Russian revolution) and made territorial concessions. If the negotiations with the Japanese had ended in nothing, then most likely they would have been defeated on land and the result of this long-suffering war was completely differently.
      3. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 1 December 2020 20: 21
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov

        In Japan, nothing is forgotten.
        In Japan, they "forgot" who won in WWII ...
        zones of occupation of japan
        That's how the WWII ends. And then in Soviet zone of responsibility Create YANDR - the Japanese People's Democratic Republic - with the transfer of Fr. Hokkaido of the USSR and the formation of the AASSR - the Ain Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. soldier
      4. Krev
        Krev 1 December 2020 23: 49
        -1
        So we also remember well. The island of Matsmai and the Russian citizenship of the Ains is not just for us.
        But how the war was pumped is a question of the betrayal of the elites of the Russian empire and the generals of the then army.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 1 December 2020 15: 57
      +3
      Quote: VORON538
      "I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories" - Prime Minister of Japan

      However, this is the tradition.
      "I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories" - Prime Minister of Japan

      the kid said, the kid will do hara-kiri? belay
  5. Pereira
    Pereira 1 December 2020 15: 03
    +11
    After the conversation, Putin presented him with a ritual set for hara-kiri.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 1 December 2020 17: 04
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      After the conversation, Putin presented him with a ritual set for hara-kiri.
      With Aliexpress home delivery.
  6. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 1 December 2020 15: 05
    +1
    "I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories" - Prime Minister of Japan
    And what did Putin say? My friend recently demanded an increase, he was sent with a smile, now he is tormented by vague doubts about dismissal.
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      1. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 1 December 2020 15: 45
        +21
        Maksim_ms (Maxim)
        It is good that an article on non-alienation of territories was also included in the constitution.
        Forgive me, but you read this amendment CAREFULLY ?!
        1. depressant
          depressant 1 December 2020 17: 06
          +6
          Colleague Suvorov, that's it!
          This amendment is exclusively for domestic consumption, domestic! So that the governors and presidents of the inner territories do not claim self-determination with subsequent separation from the country. After all, it is not for nothing that further: "... aimed at alienating the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions are not allowed."
          What - the Japanese leader will be banned from calling? Not allowed? And how? Hands are short! No, our people do not understand. Even if you crack, they don't understand! Delimitation is an agreement between governments, according to which demarcation is then done. There, in the amendment: except for delimitation! I don’t want to negotiate the sale of the territory. Well, people don't understand this in any way.
          Correction - correct!
  7. Runoway
    Runoway 1 December 2020 15: 08
    +9
    "I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories" - Prime Minister of Japan

    Well, it's the same in Ukraine, every first one promises to return Crimea
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 December 2020 16: 35
      0
      Quote: Runoway
      Well, it's the same in Ukraine, every first one promises to return Crimea

      Japan and Ukraine are racing ahead of the mare, who will jump over whom. But he just forgets that the mare can die.
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  9. Cananecat
    Cananecat 1 December 2020 15: 10
    +3
    Translate anybody to the Japanese that we have long ago put on their problems of their northern territories ...
  10. cniza
    cniza 1 December 2020 15: 16
    +4
    Earlier in Moscow, it was repeatedly emphasized that Russia has no problems with the Kuriles, and if someone has, then this is their problem.


    So and once again bring it to the new Premier ...
  11. faterdom
    faterdom 1 December 2020 15: 18
    +3
    -What did Putin say?
    -What he already put ...
    -What?
    -The end.
  12. Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 December 2020 15: 24
    +2
    I am ready to solve the problems of the "southern territories" by the method of the age of Okinawa to the Chinese, for a start! And there South Korea has something to demand from the Japanese, not to mention North Korea! So, no matter how Japan itself is "squandered for spare parts" by countries that have territorial prisons for the land of the rising sun!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 December 2020 16: 38
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      So, no matter how Japan itself is "squandered for spare parts" of the country

      The question is certainly interesting, but the Japanese need to ask first how the seismic situation in Japan is.
  13. 1536
    1536 1 December 2020 15: 24
    +3
    The problem is that the Japanese, along with the Germans, have forgotten how much death, misery, suffering and grief they brought to the land of Russia in the XX century. This cannot be forgiven!
    It's good if short memory is not pathological changes in the human brain. But if this is amnesia, then again it will be necessary to solve the problems of these sick representatives of certain nations.
  14. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 15: 25
    +1
    And this one, yes, let him do the hara-kiri immediately and does not suffer with the Kuriles.
  15. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 1 December 2020 15: 26
    0
    The problem of the so-called "northern territories" exists only in the minds of Japanese politicians, who tune in the Japanese public. And Russia has no territorial problems, there are southern Kurils, but no problems. And it is high time to close this issue once and for all, to stop conducting any political speculations on this score, giving the Japanese a reason to claim part of Russian territory.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 1 December 2020 16: 16
      0
      This problem will never be solved, simply because these are serious political points for a politician, look what Erdogan says, he is restoring the Ottoman Empire, look what Aliyev said, that he wants "Zangezur" and Yerevan. Yes, the same Crimea is an additional political weight of the president, therefore, as long as the people live with their own sovereign government, the problem of lands will play a great role in gaining political weight!
      1. Fedor Sokolov
        Fedor Sokolov 1 December 2020 16: 36
        +2
        Perhaps you are right! But in no case should one make any concessions and exchanges of our territories. The Russian emperor made a political mistake by giving the islands of the Kuril ridge to the Japanese for the sake of friendship and economic relations, and subsequently this led to the Russian-Japanese war and the loss of the southern part of Sakhalin Island. All this talk about friendship, cooperation and joint investment between states is from the evil one.
  16. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 1 December 2020 15: 28
    +8
    As Marshal Zhukov said, 5 Megatons into the mouth of Fujiyama, the Japanese question is removed from the agenda.
    1. Romka47
      Romka47 1 December 2020 15: 50
      +2
      He was a smart man!
  17. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 1 December 2020 15: 46
    +4
    There is a peace treaty with all countries, but this does not negate the bestial attitude of some of them towards Russia, its history and people. Signing a treaty with Japan will not change anything for us.
  18. Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 December 2020 15: 52
    +2
    laughing Apparently he decided to abandon the claims. Other solutions won't work.
  19. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 1 December 2020 16: 02
    +1
    "I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories" - Prime Minister of Japan
    the previous one swore at his father's grave, and on camera, now, according to the tradition of Japanese samurai, he must make himself hara-kiri, but apparently now in Japan it is not customary to answer for his words, so they say everything that is profitable at the moment, like other politicians around the world
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 1 December 2020 16: 15
      0
      And by the way, where to look at the corpse of the previous positor? -Seemingly he promised to do hara-kiri.))) I demand the carcass in the studio, the kid said, the kid did it!)))
  20. K-50
    K-50 1 December 2020 16: 08
    +1
    How can you explain to the dumb-headed that the Kuril Islands are ours ?! what
  21. evgen1221
    evgen1221 1 December 2020 16: 13
    0
    Well, as I said before, these statements by the Japanese about the Kuril Islands are purely mantras for the internal use of each of their prime ministers, like ours about the fight against poverty. Absolutely optional screams
  22. Esaul
    Esaul 1 December 2020 16: 36
    0
    Well Suga give up your claims to the Kuril Islands and that's it, the problem is solved.
  23. Galleon
    Galleon 1 December 2020 16: 40
    +3
    To paraphrase the famous Japanese poet Ishikawa Takuboku, I will say:
    Do not strike violently,
    freeze with your head bowed
    at the sounds of Russian speech:
    But to hell with you.
  24. Guru
    Guru 1 December 2020 16: 48
    +1
    I hope that the bright hopes of those who lived on the islands, their children and grandchildren, will already be full-fledged masters in their native the earth.
    Some kind of oxymoron - how can children and grandchildren have their native land in the Kuril Islands, if they were not born there?
  25. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 1 December 2020 16: 59
    -3
    A peace treaty has not yet been signed.

    And what are we fighting? Will not the frying pan crack with Russia to fight? Better give up right away))
  26. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 1 December 2020 17: 03
    0
    ***

    -Japan, with the support of the Soviet Union, became a member of the UN, signed and ratified the Charter of the organization, which contains Article 107, which states that all the results of World War II are inviolable.

    -The war between the USSR and Japan was completed on September 2, 1945 by the signing by the Japanese of an act of unconditional surrender.

    -The state of war was officially terminated on October 19, 1956, when a joint Declaration was signed: "The state of war between the USSR and Japan ceases from the date of entry into force of this Declaration, and peace and good-neighborly friendly relations are restored between them."

    -The Kuril Islands came under the control of the USSR as a result of World War II, which was stipulated in the Cairo Declaration of 1943, the Potsdam Declaration of 1945, as well as in the 1951 peace treaty signed in San Francisco.

    -Japan unconditionally recognized the Potsdam and Cairo Declarations and signed the act of surrender in 1945. And in 1951, the Japanese abandoned their claims to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.

    ---

    Salmon tail splashed on the wave

    The islands disappeared in the fog

    They will not return

    Deal with Nihon ...

    © V.V. Vorontsov Islands of the Rising Sun of Russia

    ***
    1. Avior
      Avior 2 December 2020 00: 19
      +1
      -The Kuril Islands came under the control of the USSR as a result of World War II, which was stipulated in the Cairo Declaration of 1943, the Potsdam Declaration of 1945, as well as in the 1951 peace treaty signed in San Francisco.

      this was not in any of the three documents, unfortunately.
  27. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 1 December 2020 18: 23
    +1
    I told Putin that I would put an end to the problem .... yes they put it on you for a long time laughing
  28. Vdi73
    Vdi73 1 December 2020 19: 29
    -2
    According to the recently adopted amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, it is not worth talking with Japan about the ownership of the islands. Whoever dares to give even another ten acres of land is a criminal and outlawed, and so they squandered all the land and a huge number of people after the collapse of the union.
  29. iouris
    iouris 1 December 2020 19: 40
    0
    This is an invitation to surrender. Completely. In the meantime, Japan is pumping money into Erdogan.
  30. Bare
    Bare 1 December 2020 19: 48
    -1
    It gets funny sometimes. You look at all this obscurantism and you come to the conclusion that again all scum will have to point to its corner, as it has to be done once every hundred years or even more often.
    No one has ever defeated a Russian soldier, it was and will be so. This is a special alloy and it is simply impossible to understand it, this is a special core that sits in every Russian from a down-and-out bum to a big-time tycoon.
    Eh mother Russia again you get ready. ... ... soldier soldier soldier soldier soldier
    1. iouris
      iouris 1 December 2020 20: 36
      +2
      Quote: Bere
      No one has ever defeated a Russian warrior

      Russian warrior reformatted. Previously, he fought for Russian land, then distributed territories, carried out the privatization of land, pledged land to a bank for a loan ... And then a bank with foreign capital ... In short, a crisis, covid, crop failure ... And a new wheelbarrow should be bought by nada, and to Turkey for Christmas to go nada?
  31. jovanni
    jovanni 1 December 2020 19: 59
    +1
    [quote] /// The Japanese prime minister said that “75 years after the war, the problem of the northern territories has not been resolved” [quote]
    Che that beguiled the Japanese. 75 years ago, the soldiers of the Red Army and Navy men closed this problem. Finally.
  32. opuonmed
    opuonmed 1 December 2020 21: 11
    0
    Is Japan going to declare war on the Russian Federation? and the United States and others will intervene on the side of Japan, then it is necessary to strike first
  33. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 2 December 2020 02: 54
    0
    put an end to the problem

    The end of the problem can be happy or sad. Applicable to both Russia and Japan.
    It is possible to imagine hypothetically, for example, Japan will receive two or four islands of the southern group of the Kuril ridge.
    There will be no second Wakkanai.
    They will build coastal fishing bases, small villages and place one or two military bases.
    The possession of the islands will give the Japanese access to the aquatic biological resources of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, participating in the distribution of shares of the WBG and obtaining their own fishing subzone.
    At present, the condition for the allocation of quotas for catching FBG in coastal fishing subzones (bottom-food and anadromous fish species) is the availability of a coastal fish processing complex at a fishing enterprise. The fleet for such a catch is small and medium-sized.
    There is a silver lining. The fact is that the owners of fish processing enterprises in the Kuril Islands are either senators in the Federation Council, deputies of the State Duma, regional legislative assemblies or in the administrations of the Far East regions.
    If the islands are transferred to the Japanese, they will lose a share of the income.
  34. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 December 2020 03: 16
    0
    I told Putin that I will put an end to the problem of the northern territories "- Prime Minister of Japan
    In, damn it, another samurai drew! laughing wassat lol ... This bazaar is for the Ipen public, but not for us, let it not indulge itself with ghostly and damp dreams. laughing
  35. Basarev
    Basarev 2 December 2020 12: 15
    0
    They will sell. And not even for a huge price. Economic partnership, investments, infrastructure projects ... Come on. The Japanese quickly recognize this as an attempt to circumvent the sanctions regime and will never do it. There will definitely not be the once mentioned exchange of islands for Crimea, this is a matter of principle for both the Japanese and their owners. Most likely - for the guarantees of life and freedom, a safe old age somewhere in the Iga prefecture, the Kremlin maniacs will give not only two islands. Perhaps we will even return to the Portsmouth border.
  36. kriten
    kriten 2 December 2020 16: 16
    0
    Apparently he will order the Japanese never to remember that there were some northern territories ...
  37. vavilon
    vavilon 3 December 2020 10: 39
    -1
    Where are you, our good old USSR
    No one dared to challenge your boundaries, and now every "pug" of Uncle "Sema" does not bite but barks
    Although there are already so many of them that if everyone starts pinching at the same time and from all sides, then it will not be laughing
    1. bk316
      bk316 3 December 2020 14: 00
      0
      No one dared to challenge your boundaries but with

      Yes, you not only did not live in the USSR, but you do not know history either.
      The Japanese never recognized the islands as the USSR.
      Have you already forgotten about Damansky?
      Yes, even the Turks had claims to the USSR ...
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 3 December 2020 14: 14
        0
        These were drops in the sea compared to today, even if there were provocations, they were decisively suppressed once and for all and no one conducted any negotiations on this matter, "the border of the union was sacred and inviolable" then that someone agreed or not these were their concerns.
  38. solzh
    solzh 12 December 2020 02: 11
    +25
    Every Japanese prime minister declares that he will put an end to the problem of the northern territories ... The previous one even swore on his father's grave ... This already looks like paranoia performed by the Japanese ...
  39. solzh
    solzh 12 December 2020 02: 12
    +24
    A peace treaty has not yet been signed. We must sign it as soon as possible.

    I see no reason to sign a peace treaty with the Japanese.