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How Russia can respond to Moldova's demands for the withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria: versions and considerations

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Transnistria and Karabakh are two “hot spots” on the map of the post-Soviet space, which have much in common. And there, and there, conflict situations arose at approximately the same period, against the background of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Both the NKR and the PMR are still in the status of unrecognized republics, in fact possessing all the attributes of states - from symbols to the armed forces.

Of course, the Russian military presence in Transnistria has never, to put it mildly, pleased the Moldovan side, behind which loomed Romania and then the EU, the US and NATO. Although it is the peacekeepers who have been and remain to this day the main guarantee of peace and security in the region, since no one can now promise that the conflict will not flare up with renewed vigor. The example of Karabakh is quite capable of inspiring the Moldovan authorities to take revenge against the PMR, if Russian peacekeepers leave there. Moreover, this time Ukraine will definitely help Chisinau, if only for reasons of anti-Russian solidarity.

Annexing Transnistria to Moldova is much easier than incorporating Karabakh into Azerbaijan. First, there has never been such a level of interethnic tension in Transnistria. Secondly, the Russian population of the PMR is gradually flowing to Russia, where there are much more opportunities for implementation than in a republic that has been living in an economic and political blockade for many years. But, at the same time, the majority of Pridnestrovians, of course, do not want to find themselves in the position of second-class citizens in Moldova, where generations have already grown up that do not understand Russian and are oriented exclusively towards the West.

Of course, Chisinau does not risk to act openly against the PMR while there are Russian peacekeepers. But the words of Maia Sandu are a wake-up call for both Tiraspol and Moscow. They promise the republic new problems, while they show the Russian Federation that its opponents are not going to abandon their plans.

What measures can Russia take in response? I will present several versions and assumptions.

Of course, any hostile actions on the part of Chisinau must meet with a clear answer. First of all, it can be economic sanctions, and not only in the form of a ban on the export or import of products, but also, for example, on limiting labor migration from this country to the Russian Federation. The measure is quite effective, given that many Moldovans, despite having a border with Romania, still prefer to go to work in Russia.

Another measure is the recognition of the TMR status with all the ensuing consequences as a powerful measure of protection for the Russians living there. At least - a transparent hint from the officials.

Yes, in relation to Russia and Transnistria, in this case, one can expect the introduction of new sanctions, including an attempt to completely blockade the PMR. But the Russians know how to break through any blockade ...

On the other hand, Maia Sandu should think carefully about the consequences of the withdrawal of the peacekeeping contingent. If Chisinau expects that after this they will try to establish their power in the PMR by force, then it should be recalled: at least 220 thousand inhabitants of the PMR are citizens of the Russian Federation.

A certain number of peacekeepers are now exactly the natives of the PMR with Russian citizenship, and it is clear that in the event of the start of aggressive actions against their homeland - Transnistria, they will act as they know and can. And Russia will not allow Moldova to start a war against the republic, which has a large number of Russian citizens. After all, in fact, it will be an aggression against the Russians, and therefore against Russia itself.

There is no doubt about the sad ending of any aggressive actions against the PMR, but, of course, only if the republic, for some reason, is not decided to "merge" in Moscow itself, where there are not only those politicians who are ready to maintain ties with Transnistria ... Now, unfortunately, there is little to be surprised at, and even the most previously unimaginable scenarios may well become reality in a certain situation.
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  1. Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 1 December 2020 14: 17
    +2
    I think it is necessary to demand in return the withdrawal of Moldovan troops from the Azov region. And if they cannot do this, then also do not withdraw
    1. Civil
      Civil 1 December 2020 14: 22
      +8
      and oriented purely to the West.

      And what generations have grown up with us? Ural-oriented?

      And to show the Romanians a proprietary answer - a formidable silence.
      1. krot
        krot 1 December 2020 14: 29
        -17%
        An ultimatum can be delivered to Moldova. That in the event of an attack on Tiraspol and the destruction of at least one Russian citizen, there will be a missile strike with Caliber on Chisinau! When the sword is over you, they hardly want to tempt fate!
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 1 December 2020 14: 38
          +20
          AND? Yes, even 64 Caliber - the entire salvo of the NK Black Sea Fleet. AND? Well, there will be food for the Air Force and SNN about the barbaric bombing of a peace man from Chisinau. However, how does this fix the situation? For example, to stop the Yugoslavs in Kosovo it took several thousand axes, the creation of a strike group of 1000 combat aircraft, a complete naval and air blockade of Yugoslavia, and 2,5 months of intense strikes.

          Your advice to the level - blow up the presidential palace in Chisinau, it's like a blow to Damascus with axes from Trump. The theme of the day, but in no way affects the situation at the front.
          1. Andr_38
            Andr_38 1 December 2020 18: 23
            -4
            What are you suggesting to surrender immediately?
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 1 December 2020 18: 30
              +7
              No. But threats like banging in Kishinev will not work. Rather, it will in no way help the peacekeepers in the PMR.

              Only a large-scale airborne assault operation can save them. Moreover, the zone of the South of Ukraine will also have to be extinguished. Well, or play roulette, whether some lieutenant Petrenko is banging for a friend killed in the ATO on the Il-76 full of paratroopers. And then they say they shot themselves down (and Biden will support this point of view).
              1. anjey
                anjey 1 December 2020 19: 41
                +3
                Why in Chisinau, banging address, today it is the World trend, according to Sandu and the Minister of Defense with American citizenship, such as a faulty UAV fell on their "smart" heads AT ALL RANDOMLY laughing Israel and the United States can and we can, if the Motherland demands laughing
                1. anjey
                  anjey 1 December 2020 19: 49
                  0
                  Of course, not our method, but why not get creative, draw a zhovto-blakit flag on the UAV and blame it on the provocative provocation of Krajina laughingAnd of course it will be "Bayraktar" laughing
                  1. krot
                    krot 2 December 2020 12: 13
                    -1
                    AND? Yes, at least 64 Caliber

                    You don't even need 64 caliber! One will be enough for the General Staff at the right time!
                    1. 210ox
                      210ox 2 December 2020 16: 50
                      +2
                      I read and think. How simple it is with you. We bang into dust. They did not defend the Russian people in Odessa (well, there is no geopolitics there, this is not Syria, not Armenians and Azerbaijanis ..). The logic of our leadership is difficult to understand. I think that first of all we need to make efforts to diplomats. Well, if Lavrov and his subordinates are unable to do anything, then they will have to fight. However, in this case it will be clearly more difficult than in August 2008.
        2. Alexey Polyutkin
          Alexey Polyutkin 1 December 2020 14: 55
          +15
          They will be told from above - they will experience it. The war with the United States and Russia, even to the last Ukrainian, even Moldovanina, is equally pleasant for the United States.
        3. BIABIA
          BIABIA 1 December 2020 15: 24
          +8
          Come on, in calibers. Immediately Vigorous Poplar! Threaten, so threaten!
          But seriously, with the arrival of mymry, one more hemorrhoids of Russia on the head. Which is to be expected.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 1 December 2020 20: 26
            +1
            The reasons and consequences must be changed. wink
            She was brought to the presidency to give us problems.
            It means nothing by itself. And I would not dare yapping.
            But the US ambassador is in a very close relationship with her and pushes.
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 1 December 2020 23: 29
            -1
            Quote: BIABIA
            with the advent of mymry, another hemorrhoids of Russia on the head. Which is to be expected.

            Under Voronin and Dodon, the situation was the same ... in the sense of the conflict, as it was "frozen", it remained, everyone got used to it ...
            1. 210ox
              210ox 2 December 2020 16: 53
              0
              But they are not used to it in Washington. They can afford to play for a long time.
        4. pereselenec
          pereselenec 2 December 2020 17: 33
          -1
          Quote: krot
          An ultimatum can be delivered to Moldova. That in the event of an attack on Tiraspol and the destruction of at least one Russian citizen, there will be a missile strike with Caliber on Chisinau! When the sword is over you, they hardly want to tempt fate!


          Why waste time on trifles - it is better to immediately scare with an atomic bimba. Maybe at least they will return the debt for gas ...



          Citizens of Moldova should not have to pay debt for gas generated on the territory of unrecognized Transnistria. This opinion was expressed by the current president of the country, Igor Dodon. The recently elected President of Moldova Maia Sandu is not going to pay off debts for gas either. This debt - $ 7,5 billion - will most likely have to be recognized as irrecoverable, experts say.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 1 December 2020 16: 35
        +26
        Quote: Civil
        And to show the Romanians a proprietary answer - a formidable silence.

        No not like this. Express yours. formidable brand concern
        1. solzh
          solzh 12 December 2020 02: 07
          +24
          If there were any sense from the MFA proprietary concern ... Today's MFA is not the Soviet MFA. When the Soviet Foreign Ministry expressed concern, everyone knew what might follow this expression. Now everyone knows that apart from expression, nothing else will follow.
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 1 December 2020 16: 50
        -2
        Quote: Civil
        And what generations have grown up with us? Ural-oriented?

        Different.
        Quote: Civil
        And to show the Romanians a proprietary answer - a formidable silence.

        Threatening silence is more intelligible than ordinary phrases.
    2. credo
      credo 1 December 2020 14: 25
      +2
      Quote: Vol4ara
      I think it is necessary to demand in return the withdrawal of Moldovan troops from the Azov region. And if they cannot do this, then also do not withdraw

      What are you talking about? Russia does not have territorial ties with the Moldovan authorities in the Azov region.
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 1 December 2020 14: 27
        +2
        Quote: credo
        Quote: Vol4ara
        I think it is necessary to demand in return the withdrawal of Moldovan troops from the Azov region. And if they cannot do this, then also do not withdraw

        What are you talking about? Russia does not have territorial ties with the Moldovan authorities in the Azov region.

        That's good
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      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 1 December 2020 14: 31
        +9
        Quote: krot
        An ultimatum can be delivered to Moldova. If, in the event of an attack on Tiraspol, there will be a rocket attack on Chisinau! When the sword is over you, they hardly want to tempt fate!

        Totally agree with you. I propose to use XEP-15M sofa-chisin class missiles
    4. VORON538
      VORON538 1 December 2020 14: 40
      0
      It will be enough to deport Moldovan guest workers and stop the import of their agricultural products
      Let them be implemented in the European Union, if they have enough space there under the quota
      And who is not enough, then all the questions are for Sandu! hi
      By the way, all officials who have something abroad will need to be fired.
      For neh, they can interfere! Whether such steps are possible is a matter of time.
      1. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 15: 12
        +18
        What are you speaking about? Have the Ukrainians been deported? Was at least one official with property in the West fired? These are dreams that have nothing to do with reality.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 2 December 2020 17: 05
        +2
        And this is for our greedy employers. There are thousands of them and they need cheap slaves. And who constantly put pressure on the government and Putin. And he has already stated that the economy cannot live without Gaster. This question is closed, we live with the main task of benefit for the owner.
    5. donavi49
      donavi49 1 December 2020 14: 41
      +1
      And they will take it and take it out - it is significant. Then they will escort the peacekeepers and bring them back through Tiraspol itself.
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 1 December 2020 14: 43
        -1
        Quote: donavi49
        And they will take it and take it out - it is significant. Then they will escort the peacekeepers and bring them back through Tiraspol itself.

        How will they bring them out if they are not there
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 1 December 2020 14: 54
          +2
          Well, it's figurative. The main thing that Sandu said initially was the goal of withdrawing Russian troops from Moldova, this is not discussed and the issue of a short perspective. But to achieve this goal, they are ready for various compromises on the way out - as she said, "to give the opportunity to save face." Therefore, they will easily guarantee anything, agree to any non-military observers, withdraw troops from the PMR, etc.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 1 December 2020 23: 39
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            The main thing that Sandu said initially was the goal of withdrawing Russian troops from Moldova, this is not discussed and the issue of a short perspective.

            Russian troops consist of the OGRV (which the Russian Federation was supposed to withdraw in accordance with the Istanbul Agreements until 2001) and the "MS" of the Russian Federation (which are completed from the OGRV, on a rotational basis), the Russian Federation must withdraw them from the moment of denunciation of any of the Parties to the conflict Settlement agreements conflict ....
            Accordingly, the President of Moldova says to the Russian Federation (Moldova said it before) about the withdrawal of the OGRF from the PMR, the withdrawal of "MS" (and not only the Russian Federation) is still only spoken in words, Moldova has not yet taken any actions (political) aimed at their withdrawal. ..
  2. iouris
    iouris 1 December 2020 14: 19
    +6
    Why answer? The future cannot be changed or delayed. We must prepare for action. And what should be done to try to negotiate with you?
    1. Edvid
      Edvid 2 December 2020 01: 07
      0
      Any military threat to Russian interests should not be expressed "concern", but gently, with a pleasant smile on his face, inform that a modern rocket does not care about the borders of states and it can even, having overcome a thousand kilometers, hit exactly the indicated window of the spiteful critic's house ...
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 2 December 2020 03: 59
      +7
      It was necessary to destroy the tie-expert at one time, together with the entire environment at 08, to bomb ukrohuntu without stopping, together with the bases of 404 airfields by the remnants of the fleet, to the Turks to level the airfield from where they flew from the ground for the downed plane, and declare that if our bases in Syria were touched by nuclear weapons burn out.
      They agree with such people.
  3. Machnamh
    Machnamh 1 December 2020 14: 21
    +20
    Yes, and answer without hesitation --- Transnistria is the land of Russia. Germany and mattress toppers once pulled West Berlin, because they believed that this is their land. And persistently defended. Although it did not come to war, neither in 1948, nor in 1961. So we will also keep Transnistria behind us. And Mikey's desire will immediately settle. And they will subside to a decent tone. Only this should be voiced loudly and firmly. Anyone from the highest echelon in the Russian Federation will do it today? Regardless of whether he has it in the West or not?
  4. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 1 December 2020 14: 23
    +3
    Firstly, it is necessary to clarify where 220 thousand Russian citizens are. they are in Transnistria, or have already moved to Russia. How the peace enforcement operation will be conducted in the event of aggression. And whether it will be carried out at all.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 1 December 2020 14: 50
      +35
      Quote: 7,62x54
      And whether it will be carried out at all.

      will not be
  5. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 1 December 2020 14: 23
    +5
    Considering that almost all citizens of Transnistria have a Russian passport, then any aggression is Casus belli
  6. sleeve
    sleeve 1 December 2020 14: 24
    +2
    There are no simple and ready-made recipes here.
    1. iouris
      iouris 1 December 2020 14: 27
      +23
      There is a ready-made recipe - war. For after the surrender of Transnistria, other requirements will also be presented. First, there is Kaliningrad.
      1. Merry_Militarist
        Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 14: 39
        +1
        I disagree, you are comparing an unrecognized subject of law (PMR) and a full-fledged subject of the Federation (Russia), the status of which is spelled out and enshrined in international documents. Well, yes, war, of course, is a recipe in its own way, but what is the prospect in this? Smash everything around, and people want to live there? And how will this affect the recognition of the PMR as an independent state?
      2. VORON538
        VORON538 1 December 2020 14: 42
        -5
        Will you fight or will you surrender to the mercy of the "new government"?
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 1 December 2020 17: 36
        -1
        In case of an attack, you need to answer in any case, and so to answer that it is not for them to decide, in general it would be worth throwing out this fshat profusette and imprisoning a legitimate sane ruler.
      4. sleeve
        sleeve 2 December 2020 12: 08
        0
        Well, as long as the number of labor migrants from there is under a million, we have "levers". The conclusion also concerns the protection of warehouses, but actually about them, basically, we are talking about. The rest is hard, only bypassing the Security Council. But warehouses could be "exchanged". She doesn't even know what will start then. Who dares to take control of the kilotons of 50 year old ammunition? Where to dispose of them? How to export them (and they are no longer "exportable" for the most part). The OSCE will completely "get off" if they are "introduced" here. I wish we could start a political "mess" about this. And technological ...
  7. cniza
    cniza 1 December 2020 14: 25
    +4
    How Russia can respond to Moldova's demands for the withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria: versions and considerations


    Just ignore ...
  8. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 1 December 2020 14: 27
    +5
    Transnistria should be given the opportunity to determine its own future and respect this choice - both Moldova and the world community. hi
    1. aleks26
      aleks26 1 December 2020 21: 23
      +3
      Quote: bessmertniy
      It is necessary for Transnistria to give the opportunity to determine its future itself and to respect this choice - both Moldova and the world community

      Already. There has already been a referendum, we have already decided. 96% of the population is against unification with Moldova. What's next? More than 200000 Russians live in the PMR. Well, yes, for Russia the PMR is like a suitcase without a handle, and what to do? Wipe yourself off again? Well, after the PMR there is not recognized Crimea. Russia will be tested for strength all the time until it gives a decisive rebuff. So why not now?
  9. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 1 December 2020 14: 28
    +2
    inspire the Moldovan authorities for revenge
    Very easy! And now the Swan is gone!
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 December 2020 14: 52
      +3
      And now the Swan is gone!

      This guarantees from the new Khasavyurt that he is not.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 1 December 2020 14: 54
        +2
        In a figurative sense. I meant the end of the bloodshed.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 1 December 2020 21: 07
          +4
          Well, maybe. And so with one step in 1996, Lebed crossed out his entire previous life. However, before his captivity and betrayal in 1942, General Vlasov was also a completely successful Soviet general.
  10. Merry_Militarist
    Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 14: 29
    +9
    I believe that the problem of "non-recognition" of the PMR as a subject of international law needs to be addressed. Is there a precedent with Kosovo? Why not turn the situation this way? The peacekeepers there only "freeze" this conflict, but they do not resolve it. I see a way out precisely in an attempt to push recognition at the UN level, or leave it as it is, or tomorrow the Moldovans will appear there (formally on legal grounds, because according to the UN, PMR is part of Moldova) and we will get another pitchfork with a not very bright prospect.
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 15: 16
      +5
      Well, if we recognize Transnistria, we will receive a complete blockade of the PMR in response. Russia will not fight for the PMR, this is already clear. What's the use of shaking the air with empty words.
      1. Merry_Militarist
        Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 15: 20
        +7
        Why only conditional "We"? Based on the precedent from Kosovo, diplomats should finally work here, and not transport cocaine. Or do you propose to leave it as is? And then get a war first, and then a shame?
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 15: 28
          +1
          Europe and America wanted to spit on the Kosovo precedent. And their arguments are known - there was a bloody civil war in Kosovo, the criminal Milosevic regime was in power, like just because of this, in order to stop genocide and ethnic cleansing, Europe and the United States and went to the independence of Kosovo, while Kosovo was autonomous within Serbia even under Tito. And Transnistria has never been autonomous, and there has been no civil war there for more than three decades. So forget about the hope for diplomats - diplomats are strong when there is money and there are guns. We have neither money nor guns for the PMR.
          1. Merry_Militarist
            Merry_Militarist 1 December 2020 15: 38
            +4
            There was a war there in 1992, quite a bit.
            If you think: to withdraw the peacekeepers and not show off, whatever one may say, is also a way out.
            1. Sergey Sfiedu
              Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 16: 53
              0
              Since 1992, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge. We have only 1000 peacekeepers there - they will crush them in a day. But this is hardly why fight when you can starve out. The only thing we can do is try to freeze the situation for as long as possible. M. b. Sandu and will be frightened by the expulsion of Moldovan guest workers and cut off from the gas supply. And it is quite possible - no, it will not be scared. Germany and Biden will help with money. If Moldova and Ukraine block Transnistria at the same time, they have a cap. But it is quite likely that Sandu, amid the cries of the withdrawal of the peacekeepers, is banal for her own price, the pro-Russian and anti-European population of Transnistria as part of European and Romanian Moldova does not really need it.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 1 December 2020 23: 44
      -1
      Quote: Merry_Militarist
      according to the UN - PMR is part of Moldova)

      And according to the RF ...
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 December 2020 14: 32
    +25
    The Russian Federation keeps everyone in uncertainty .... and the PMR and Donbass ..... and there everything is withering and poorer and people are leaving. So the question will be resolved by itself.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 1 December 2020 14: 54
      +5
      This is a very important remark, because it is not clear what is being proposed. Could have shoved through, in the time of Dodon, the autonomy of Transnistria as part of Moldova. Otherwise, dead zones are obtained, including the Donbass, from where people simply flee themselves, for there are no prospects. What's with the peacekeepers, what's without them
  12. Labrador
    Labrador 1 December 2020 14: 32
    +3
    In the event of a conflict, logistics will be difficult.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 1 December 2020 14: 46
      -2
      Cruise missiles do not need logistics, but this is already a full-fledged armed conflict, and this is what Russia is being pushed into.
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 1 December 2020 14: 49
      +32
      Quote: Labrador
      In the event of a conflict, logistics will be difficult.

      she just won't be
  13. Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 December 2020 14: 35
    +9
    In this we are a little like Armenia, they also did not recognize Karabakh! The Kremlin needs to immediately recognize both Transnistria and Donbass! Enough to be afraid of US sanctions, their liberals in power do more harm to Russia than the Yankees with their sanctions!
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 1 December 2020 14: 45
      -4
      So the liberda with the Yankees at the same time and in general wants even more pressure on Russia, as their new messiah said in bulk hi
      1. Revival
        Revival 2 December 2020 02: 57
        -1
        Yes, in vain bulk will not make a decision to recognize Donbass and PMR
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 1 December 2020 14: 53
      +7
      The Kremlin needs immediately recognize both Transnistria and Donbass! Stop being afraid of US sanctions their liberals in power more harm to Russia


      If, finally, you understand that these are the same people .. then the call turns out to be meaningless ..))
  14. fuel oil
    fuel oil 1 December 2020 14: 39
    +4
    Russia? Answer? This is fantastic ... More than seven lard debt for gas. The newly elected one is already refusing the debt. "Effective" managers will pick them off from ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation, those who are still alive. We have no answers in the political and economic mainstream, well, except for limiting the influx of guest workers. And this miss is pushing the issue to a forceful solution, which, in fact, is her main task.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 1 December 2020 15: 05
      +1
      Quote: black oil
      The newly elected one is already giving up debt

      Maybe she's just bargaining. Like write off the debt and leave your peacekeepers until the end of the world. I think, given the poverty of Moldova, they will somehow decide in the end. Gazprom is compensated from the budget (our pocket)
    2. Avior
      Avior 1 December 2020 15: 16
      +10
      no one has ever recognized this debt, it is the debt of Transnistria.
    3. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 15: 20
      +1
      Is not a fact. This option is also possible - Sandu needs to get rid of the gas debt for Transnistria. Why and loud statements. They will bargain and agree - the troops will remain, and Russia will pay for the gas. Troops there, by the way, nothing at all, purely moral value.
    4. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 1 December 2020 23: 51
      0
      Quote: black oil
      And this miss is pushing the issue to a forceful solution, which, in fact, is her main task.

      This miss wants to remove from the PMR (which is part of Moldova and the Russian Federation recognizes this) the OGRV, which is located there illegally .... and this is logical and at the same time wants to resolve the issue of "MS" (here you can agree) ...
  15. Guru
    Guru 1 December 2020 14: 41
    +2
    Understand correctly! The PMR (Transnistria) is in a de facto blockade, and it will not be easy to help it. To lift the blockade of the PMR, 25 km are not enough, to the Dniester estuary. That is, to squeeze another 25 km from the Ukropitheks in the Odessa region. Crazy, of course, but as an option.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 1 December 2020 23: 53
      -1
      Quote: Guru
      to squeeze another 25 km from the Ukropitheks in the Odessa region. Crazy, of course, but as an option.

      it will not work, in the Odessa region the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not a weak grouping ... troops ...
  16. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 1 December 2020 14: 42
    +4
    The most banal comment: you have to be prepared for anything.
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2020 14: 42
    -5
    God help me, friends. Well, polite people hope to catch up laughing
  18. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2020 14: 44
    +2
    "Sandu supported the withdrawal of Russian troops from Transnistria"

    And Rotaru performed a new concert program. AND? laughing
  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2020 14: 45
    -6
    Lord, they had already forgotten to think about her, she decided to vyaknut once again. The aunt is on the salary, what to expect from her. Although over 50 percent of Moldovans are waiting for something, apparently) Mike's last underpants (it just blew with a wardrobe)) what half-dead sovereignty he will give to Moldova and (Romanians are already at a low start) will leave for Europe or the USA (here how the card will fall), tell how to build a successful state. laughingAnd let the European Union come up with a proposal to establish a gypsy state in Moldova. Everyone there. All neighbors feel good and have fun laughing
  20. Overlock
    Overlock 1 December 2020 14: 48
    +35
    First of all, it can be economic sanctions, and not only in the form of a ban on the export or import of products, but also, for example, on restricting labor migration from this country to the Russian Federation.

    frightened the hedgehog! There are exactly as many Moldovan migrants in Russia as in the EU. Russia did not use them at all in the elections, nobody was interested in their votes. The EU, on the contrary, tried very hard to participate in the presidential elections. And there, Sandu, received almost 100% support. Well, send these white dogs and then what? Currently, there is a shortage of labor in Russia, Sobyanin admitted its deficit at 40% - there are no laborers, janitors and other specialties, which our compatriot does not go to, and primarily because of low wages. So this is a shot in the foot.
    Another measure is the recognition of the TMR status with all the ensuing consequences as a powerful measure to protect the Russians living there.

    if the LDNR did not recognize where the war has been going on for 6 years, and which are already the border of Russia, then the recognition of the PMR is a utopia.
    But the Russians know how to break through any blockade ...

    And How? Airborne assault in Tiraspol or sea landing in Odessa? Really funny. This is an open armed invasion of the territory of a foreign state with all the ensuing consequences.
    What will it give? New sanctions?
    And Russia will not allow Moldova to start a war against the republic, which has a large number of Russian citizens. After all, in fact, it will be an aggression against the Russians, and therefore against Russia itself.

    The domination of Russia in the post-Soviet space is a good thing, but the cost of making this dream a reality is too high, and in fact it can be realized only in the most desperate scenarios when the vital interests of the state are affected. In most cases, especially where there is no common border with Russia, post-Soviet domination is a luxury.
    There are already examples: Kyrgyzstan, Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan. In almost all of these countries, Russia has left the position of dominance.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 December 2020 14: 56
    -2
    This is a complete mockery and mockery of the state. This is not even the case in the fake states of Oceania and Papua. It's even good. Moldova is an example of a completely fake state, which does not have the money to maintain itself, and does not even maintain the appearance of a logically working state machine. There are no physical resources, neither economic nor financial. And there are not even political and psychological, volitional, resources to portray that at least something is. There is nothing. Unhappy territory. Not a country, not a state, but a territory.
  22. Machnamh
    Machnamh 1 December 2020 14: 58
    0
    Quote: Overlock
    The domination of Russia in the post-Soviet space is a good thing, but the cost of making this dream a reality is too high, and in fact it can be realized only in the most desperate scenarios when the vital interests of the state are affected.

    But this is slightly less than the desire of the United States to dominate the Peter the Great Gulf. What have they forgotten there? Save 5 miles with an extra 1000 detour? It is somehow difficult to believe in this even for the most distant world community. It is enough just to look at the map in Google, today it is not a problem. Well, in the end, after all, Russia must assume there are some coastal missile systems there? They seem to be able to launch on floating objects extremely suspicious and unsafe when going over the edge? Did those striped beetles take into account?
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 16: 34
      +11
      Nothing really threatened the Americans, what are you talking about? Who would start a war over some "lost" destroyer? War is too expensive today. We can only help Transnistria by occupying the Odessa region, and Russia did not dare to do this even in 2014, when there was no Ukraine as a state, and now it is even more unrealistic. We can inflate fearfully bubbles and what is there to pretend to be in Syria, Libya, in the Central African Republic - there you can. And in Ukraine - no, it is impossible, not because of Ukraine, of course, but because of the dependence of our economy on the West, which protects Ukraine.
      In fact, after 2014, Transnistria is doomed.
      1. Machnamh
        Machnamh 1 December 2020 16: 45
        0
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        And in Ukraine - no, it is impossible, not because of Ukraine, of course, but because of the dependence of our economy on the West, which protects Ukraine.

        Well, you have to break this dependence. Nobody will do this for you-us. In the end, the West is a pronounced consumer society. And the consumer society is not the only way of civilization development. And not the best at all. And if you continue to do this ----- we are tied to the west, the capital of someone there ---- then after the disappearance of Putin, nothing lasts forever under the moon, you will be left without a state at all. And maybe you will even follow the same relaxed plan of Hitler OST. Don't you forget that all of Europe fought for him? If Russia does not fundamentally and decisively change this behavior - Europe, community, raw materials, children, foreign-Miami-California -----, then in the next 20-30 years it will cease to exist. 100 percent will come true what Hitler and Dulles and all that company dreamed of and planned about ----- Thatcher, Albright ... And right now, that German woman began to play.
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  23. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 1 December 2020 15: 02
    -5
    To begin with, conduct an exercise with the declared legend about laying an air corridor through a hostile state to a Russian enclave that was attacked with a demonstrative suppression of all identified air defense with precision weapons and the subsequent landing of the airborne forces in a conditional enclave. Maybe someone will sober up .. Although ..
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 December 2020 15: 19
      +5
      That is, you propose to start a full-scale war? and why is Russia?
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 1 December 2020 15: 20
        +1
        Quote: Avior
        That is, you propose to start a full-scale war?

        Exercise to conduct
        1. Avior
          Avior 1 December 2020 15: 38
          +10
          Uh-huh. By the forces of the Second Division of the Couch Troops ...
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 1 December 2020 16: 18
            -3
            Quote: Avior
            Uh-huh. By the forces of the Second Division of the Couch Troops ...

            No, the forces of the Southern Military District, together with the Black Sea Fleet and the Airborne Forces regiment subordinate to him, with the involvement of VTAs with a total number of l / s of no more than 13000 people. , so as not to notify the "partners".
    2. Guru
      Guru 1 December 2020 15: 20
      +1
      To start, conduct an exercise with the declared legend

      In principle, we showed our ability during the Crimean events. But as a reminder, the exercise will be pretty straightforward.
    3. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 16: 41
      +7
      And to receive NATO exercises in response to repel aggression against independent sovereign states (UN members, with borders, by the way, recognized by Russia), the theater of operations by the Americans, by the way, is being actively mastered, but this is still nonsense, but more serious - with the threat of disconnecting Russia from the banking system , the imposition of an embargo on the export of Russian oil, gas, aluminum, titanium, etc., and what is most terrible and terrible - the threat of confiscation of the property and deposits of Russian oligarchs! Do you think that so Mariupol, Slavyansk, Kharkiv remained Ukrainian? What role did little Switzerland play in stopping the offensive in eastern Ukraine?
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 1 December 2020 17: 38
        +3
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        And to receive NATO exercises in response to repel aggression against independent sovereign states (UN members, with borders, by the way, recognized by Russia), the theater of operations by the Americans, by the way, is being actively mastered, but this is still nonsense, but more serious - with the threat of disconnecting Russia from the banking system , the imposition of an embargo on the export of Russian oil, gas, aluminum, titanium, etc., and what is most terrible and terrible - the threat of confiscation of the property and deposits of Russian oligarchs! Do you think that so Mariupol, Slavyansk, Kharkiv remained Ukrainian? What role did little Switzerland play in stopping the offensive in eastern Ukraine?

        Following your logic, you need to sit on the priest evenly and not shine. Well, also as an option in the piggy bank of the topic discussed in the article.
  24. Livonetc
    Livonetc 1 December 2020 15: 14
    +3
    "Transnistria and Karabakh are two" hot spots "on the map of the post-Soviet space, which have much in common"
    A worm has a lot in common with a human in terms of hegoma.
    And the Transnistrian theme has serious peculiarities.
    In particular, a simplified regime for issuing passports of the Russian Federation.
    The topic will be procrastinated for a long time.
    By that time, the majority of Pridnestrovians will become citizens of the Russian Federation.
    The Moldovan authorities are taking the wrong path.
    It will turn out exactly the opposite.
  25. Yves762
    Yves762 1 December 2020 15: 22
    0
    negative
    Sandu is now doing the same as the barker at the carnival: he invites the well-known "world community" to look in (and, most importantly, bring it in) to ...
    what
    Maybe it’s worth thinking about what Russia can do.?. And then after all, not with Moldova, you will have to butt here.
  26. Alexey Polyutkin
    Alexey Polyutkin 1 December 2020 15: 35
    0
    The fool understands that the Moldovans are not averse to reconquering Transnistria like Azeibarjan.
    Therefore, no one will withdraw the peacekeepers.
  27. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 1 December 2020 16: 13
    +2
    But the Russians know how to break through any blockade ...


    Where to break it from Transnistria, Polonsky?
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 1 December 2020 17: 26
      +11
      Yes, just to blurt out my tongue. The best breakthrough of the blockade is the friendly governments in Chisinau and / or Kiev, but this task was too tough for Russia.
  28. svoit
    svoit 1 December 2020 16: 35
    0
    If Moldova wants to annex the PMR, it can do it. To do this, it is enough to legalize the TMR and hold a referendum there. And Russian troops will not be needed there. Until now, Moldova has not had a desire, but it can arise, and the EU can help ...
  29. dragon_13364
    dragon_13364 1 December 2020 16: 39
    +6
    Hello everyone!
    after reading this article, I had a question (we can say that he stood up straight) - WHY?
    Yes, in big letters. Explain to me, a person far from politics and the army (I am a system administrator in one company), why does the Russian Federation need peacekeepers in Moldova? in NKR? in Kazakhstan (or is it still another country with our base in the steppe) ...
    that's why? for the country's prestige? ..
    in my opinion, if our cosmonauts walked on the moon live or on Mars something flew from us (and not the eternal achievements of china, america, private traders ... yes even india!) it would be a much better PR action.
    So why does our country send our peacekeepers to other countries? just to be? to die heroically there? what for?
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 1 December 2020 17: 07
      +1
      You ask sharp questions, wait, how urapatriots of pre-krimatorial age will come-minuses are piled on you by your mother, don't worry.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 2 December 2020 04: 18
      +1
      There are our citizens with our passports, if we allow citizens to occupy and cut out, then it will be a clear signal for all the scum that citizens of the Russian Federation can be killed everywhere, around the world without consequences.
  30. Alexander Zima
    Alexander Zima 1 December 2020 16: 50
    +3
    For the withdrawal of the peacekeepers, the consent of the two sides is needed ... Tiraspol did not declare such a thing ... so stop spanking nonsense and throwing dirt on the fan.
    1. Yves762
      Yves762 1 December 2020 17: 17
      0
      Perhaps you overestimate the significance / weight of Tiraspol as a party.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 2 December 2020 00: 07
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Zima
      The withdrawal of the peacekeepers requires the consent of the two sides ...

      Not at all. Either side ...
      This Agreement comes into force from the moment of signing. This Agreement is terminated by agreement of the parties, or in the event of withdrawal from it by one of the contracting parties that entails the termination of the activities of the Commission and the military contingents attached to it.

      Article 8 of the Agreement on the principles of the peaceful settlement of the armed conflict and the Transnistrian region of the Republic of Moldova.
      https://mid.gospmr.org/ru/sGv
      1. Pavel Vladimirov
        Pavel Vladimirov 2 December 2020 21: 46
        0
        Clarify whether the Moldavian SSR is included in one of the sides, or are the two sides the PMR and Russia?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 2 December 2020 23: 12
          -1
          Quote: Pavel Vladimirov
          Clarify whether the Moldavian SSR is included in one of the sides, or are the two sides the PMR and Russia?

          Parties to the Agreement between the Russian Federation and Moldova (not the MSSR), the parties to the conflict between the PMR and Rep. Moldova...
  31. evgen1221
    evgen1221 1 December 2020 17: 04
    -2
    How can you answer? -Understand, forgive and wipe out.
  32. sniperino
    sniperino 1 December 2020 17: 26
    +1
    Trump was easier to seat than Dodon.
  33. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 1 December 2020 19: 33
    0
    all these graduates of amerskiye universities are just amerskiye litter, and this applies to all republics of the ussr including russia
  34. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 1 December 2020 23: 23
    -2
    After all, in fact it will aggression against Russians, means against Russia itself.

    This is some nonsense....
    In the 90s, thousands of Russians were killed and maimed in the vastness of the former Soviet Union, and no one in Moscow considered it an aggression against the Russian Federation ...
    Another measure is the recognition of the TMR status with all the ensuing consequences as a powerful measure to protect the Russians living there.

    The recognition of the PMR of the Russian Federation will only aggravate the life of the citizens of the PMR, and the Russian Federation itself, in the conditions of the blockade of the PMR by Moldova and Ukraine, will not help in any way ...
    Before recognizing any state entity as an independent state and taking responsibility for its protection, the Russian Federation needs to possess the necessary instruments (economic, political, military, etc.), at the moment the Russian Federation does not have such instruments ...
    Yes, in relation to Russia and Transnistria, in this case, one can expect the introduction of new sanctions, including an attempt to completely blockade the PMR.

    Not an attempt, but a real blockade (which is now being carried out, including against citizens of the PMR with Russian citizenship), at the moment, for example, Moldovan customs officers are standing on the border of the PMR and Ukraine ..
    But the Russians know how to break through any blockade ...

    I understand that Polonsky himself (author) will not take part in this ...
  35. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 1 December 2020 23: 28
    +1
    Quote: Vol4ara
    I think it is necessary to demand in return the withdrawal of Moldovan troops from the Azov region. And if they cannot do this, then also do not withdraw

    Well said!
    But Moldovans are not bastard. Their madame refused to pay $ 7 yards of gas debt.
    A country with a population of 2 districts of Moscow sends our Motherland to the foremother.
    What's next?
    Played out. It was necessary not to drive gas to Moldova, but to strangle it with sanctions for the installation of a monument to the Soviet occupation.
    1. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 2 December 2020 00: 21
      0
      It is logical. Pay for the expenses of a mistress
      and even carried away by expenses - nonsense.
      As an auditor I will say.
      Don't you think? Moldavian land.
      De jure.
      For those who do not distinguish de jure from de facto, let me remind you
      about the Belovezhskaya agreements.
      We read. We study.
      We are sad.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 2 December 2020 01: 14
        0
        Quote: DKuznecov
        Logically the same.
        As an auditor I will say.
        Don't you think? Moldavian land.
        De jure.
        .
        And Kosovo and Metohija are the land of Serbia "de jure" ...
        1. Dkuznecov
          Dkuznecov 2 December 2020 17: 20
          0
          Yes, they grated Yugoslavia like cheese.
          But there was a center of power in the Balkans.
  36. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 2 December 2020 00: 15
    -3
    Some kind of nonsense.

    Maybe the Moldovans
    after they stop
    be proud that they are Romanians,
    will deal with their own territories?

    They will decide which language who should speak.
    Songs to sing and dance in circles?

    Profiled by the Belovezhskaya agreements
    land is possible, only according to the laws of the same
    agreements, transfer.

    I, personally, would not like to return
    nuclear weapons according to
    cancellation of these agreements.

    Let everything be as it turned out.

    And Transnistria ... It’s not the Russian Federation that is the land now,
    no matter how much you water it with sunbakes.

    Thank you for attention.
  37. awdrgy
    awdrgy 2 December 2020 09: 42
    0
    By simply capturing a piece of Ukraine and Moldova (why is there such a thing?) But not under the current government
  38. Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 2 December 2020 09: 45
    +1
    Moldova does not recognize the debt for gas, for the NDP. Do you get it? Those who impose a debt clearly consider the NDP a part of Moldova. And do you think they will defend the NDP? They will hand it over for admitting a debt on khgaz for one or two! The capitalists do not need any PNR, DPR, LPR, etc. Only their grandmothers, and for them they will sell everything and everyone!
  39. vavilon
    vavilon 2 December 2020 10: 22
    -3
    There can be only one way out, this is the expansion of the Transnistrian border to Romania, it's like in the song “we have no other way, we have a rifle in our hands”
    1. aleks26
      aleks26 2 December 2020 18: 39
      0
      Quote: vavilon
      There can be only one way out, this is the expansion of the Transnistrian border to Romania

      But Moldova has access to the Black Sea along the Danube and they even have a port in Giurgiulesti
  40. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 2 December 2020 10: 31
    0
    The option from 08.08 and NKR will not work here - the country will not open an air corridor and territory. Perhaps Kiev also understands that there is an opportunity to lose part of the southern regions of Ukraine. We need to negotiate with Berlin so that Merkel would shut her mouth, the greyhound Moldovan woman. And the best thing is to convince Erdogan that Moldova is an original Turkish land. )
    1. aleks26
      aleks26 2 December 2020 18: 48
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      And the best thing is to convince Erdogan that Moldova is an original Turkish land. )

      What for? He already knows it. Moldova can be conditionally divided into 3 parts, Moldova proper, Gagauzia and Transnistria. So, he considers Gagauzia to be Turkish land. The Turks have been helping them for a long time, including financially, and by the way, the entire population of Gagauzia is pro-Russian and is not going to any Romania, even that stubborn people.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 2 December 2020 21: 10
        0
        Did not know. So, Gagauzia is a primordial Turkish land ?! But this is not enough. We need to throw off to Erdogan, a copy of the Turkish passport in the name of Stefan Chelmare. And why not? ..) Well, found in the storerooms, the Hermitage .. Somehow everyone forgot ... And here is such a case. A couple of stamps for leaving and leaving Chisinau to Istanbul. With the signature ,, the poganichnik- Moldovan Nigrutu ,,)
  41. Sergei
    Sergei 2 December 2020 13: 29
    +1
    No one will withdraw the peacekeepers this time. There is no one to expel from Russia who could and wanted to leave, the labor market there is no longer promising, outdated information about the places of employment of Moldovans. It won't help much to close the market either, since the imposition of the embargo by Russia, the locals began to look for new markets and found. Regarding the war, first of all, why did no one shout about it when, 4-5 years ago, the Moldavian army was constantly training artillery calculations? Secondly, what forces will Moldova use to conquer Transnistria? Thirdly, have you ever been to Transnistria? Why did Russia abandon this republic?
    1. aleks26
      aleks26 2 December 2020 18: 41
      0
      Quote: Serghei
      Why did Russia abandon this republic?

      And she left her ???
      1. Sergei
        Sergei 2 December 2020 18: 48
        +1
        You decide. The citizens of the PMR are controlled by the power, which in fact belongs, through the sheriff holding, to a specific person. The laws that he needs are adopted, his Supreme Council, the president and the security forces too. And he came to power in the most fun way. People live in poverty, help is stolen by the above. There are no prospects there, and whoever can runs wherever he can. This is called not thrown? What prevents to restore order there and build a normal state? Not an offshore, but a state. The industry was killed, and it was at a very high level during the MSSR.
  42. Radikal
    Radikal 3 December 2020 02: 19
    +3
    Another measure is the recognition of the TMR status with all the ensuing consequences as a powerful measure to protect the Russians living there. At the very least - a transparent hint from the officials

    It's all bullshit - recognition of status ... statements, and other diplomatic crap. There is no common border! That's where ... the military is coming from. Breaking through the corridor is the main task. Accordingly, this requires a calculation of forces and means. Are they available in sufficient composition and quantity? I would like to hope that this has been done on the Frunzenskaya embankment. sad
  43. Radikal
    Radikal 3 December 2020 02: 21
    +3
    Quote: Serghei
    No one will withdraw the peacekeepers this time. There is no one to expel from Russia who could and wanted to leave, the labor market there is no longer promising, outdated information about the places of employment of Moldovans. It won't help much to close the market either, since the imposition of the embargo by Russia, the locals began to look for new markets and found. Regarding the war, first of all, why did no one shout about it when, 4-5 years ago, the Moldavian army was constantly training artillery calculations? Secondly, what forces will Moldova use to conquer Transnistria? Thirdly, have you ever been to Transnistria? Why did Russia abandon this republic?
    Why??? Probably because of why she left and betrayed everyone she could. And who will reach for such a country? sad
  44. solzh
    solzh 12 December 2020 02: 03
    +26
    How Russia can respond to Moldova's demands for the withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria

    Almost nothing ...