Ramzan Kadyrov again accuses

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Ramzan Kadyrov again accusesThe Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov continues to assert himself in a very specific way. The scandal connected with his polemic with the Ingush President Yevkurov about who and how is destroying the terrorists, how the new scandal broke out, did not have time to calm down. This time, Ramzan Kadyrov decided to start a “male conversation” with another regional leader, Krasnodar Territory Governor Tkachev.

It should be said here that Alexander Tkachev not long ago allowed himself to express himself in the spirit that people in the North Caucasus republics should not be allowed into the Kuban, and those who were already “let in” should be squeezed out. It would seem that this is only the subjective position of Tkachev himself, but Kadyrov decided that here too he should insert his weighty word. The head of Chechnya announced the Kuban governor in nationalism, and is now going to complain about Tkachev directly to President Putin.

It is worth noting that complaints from Kadyrov to the Kremlin have recently begun to acquire a systematic character. The Chechen head constantly finds a reason to rebuke the leaders of other Russian subjects of the federation for pursuing a policy that does not correspond to his understanding.

In terms of how large the number of people from the North Caucasus republics in Kuban is, it is worth noting that this number has steadily increased over the past 3-4 of the year. Some are engaged in trade, others - in agriculture, conducting activities such as purchase of technical salt, the conclusion of contracts for the supply of agricultural products to other regions of the country. Representatives of the North Caucasian republics also play a great role in the development of Krasnodar sports. It was this factor that led Kadyrov, saying that an attempt to divide Russians along ethnic lines would not lead to anything good in our country.

In this regard, a big scandal between the Chechen Republic and the Kuban threatens to flare up at the administrative level. Conflict may be resolved by the decisions of Moscow, if any, soon follow. Here the word “if” is used, because so far no official reaction has manifested itself in the quarrel of Kadyrov and Yevkurov, and here - already a new scandal and again in the North Caucasus. Moscow is either trying to distance itself from regional conflicts, or deliberately enables regional leaders to look for ways out of crisis situations.
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  1. spender
    +28
    15 August 2012 10: 07
    Well, Tkachev, in my opinion, himself "went too far" with his statements, a state official cannot publicly push such slogans, undermine the integrity of Russia winked I agree that Caucasians need to be "restricted", but without shouting at rallies, and "stimulating" the police and "knocking on the hands" of local bureaucrats that licenses for trade and purchase of land are distributed winked
    1. +2
      15 August 2012 10: 13
      Quote: spender
      Well Tkachev, in my opinion, "went too far" with his claims,

      Hi Alexey, I read his statements that it’s been called not the first day. Yes, and Kadyrov won’t get into his pocket for a word. In short, Tkachev should go to London for love hi
      1. spender
        +4
        15 August 2012 10: 17
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I read his statements, which is called it was not the first day

        Sanya, hello! He is now trying to wash away the blame for the flood with "cheap populism" ... The chair seems to have "swayed", but what is needed to distract the attention of the people, so he pushed the "hot" national question ... Just how could he "not burn himself" On him winked
      2. +4
        15 August 2012 10: 18
        The weaver has had some kind of doom on his face and eyes lately. Personal opinion. Apparently and went vabank. There is nothing to lose.
        1. +3
          15 August 2012 10: 21
          Sasha, here's someone, and Tkachev more than there is something to lose. Considering his poor and far from poor relatives and as far as I remember my daughters, we are talking about amounts with nine zeros. I won’t be surprised if I find out that everything is ready for moving abroad.
          1. +2
            15 August 2012 10: 35
            the sled according to rumors the number of zeros has sharply decreased after Kuschevka and will become even smaller after Krymsk.
            1. +1
              15 August 2012 10: 37
              Quote: vorobey

              sled according to rumors the number of zeros decreased sharply

              Well, it’s rumored, but in real life?
          2. -2
            15 August 2012 10: 37
            They always have everything ready! They have a plane in standby mode, and the pilots are constantly on duty, changing every day! So at the first click and .... "American fight ... I'll leave with you, Moscow goodbye ..." hi
        2. +4
          15 August 2012 10: 21
          Hello vorobey!
          He looked at your avatar and gasped. Did Glukharev himself come to us, Well, in this case, I have a question: who is Zimina, Denis and Nastya then? good drinks
          Best regards
          1. +3
            15 August 2012 10: 26
            Quote: Apollon
            Well, in this case, I have a question and who then is Zimina, Denis and Nastya

            Yes, everything is on the site. Apollo hello, why such an experience hi
            1. +1
              15 August 2012 11: 05
              I have such a shock that I missed everything on the site, bah, and you have a different profile picture? Wow, when you managed to change, I didn’t even notice.
              Then let me ask you a question. Have you all conspired ?!
              or personal initiative of everyone, but maybe confusing you want someone? hi drinks Huh?
          2. spender
            +3
            15 August 2012 10: 28
            Quote: Apollon
            Well, in this case, I have a question and who then is Zimina, Denis and Nastya

            Zimina and Nastya are working at the sparrow under the table, and Denis ran for vodka laughing
            1. +2
              15 August 2012 11: 05
              I can’t write bravo with laughter drinks
          3. +3
            15 August 2012 10: 33
            Not an uplone. This is Sukhorukov Vitya.- Tatrin from Brother 2. I also wanted the American dream. And got to imagine.
            1. spender
              +3
              15 August 2012 10: 37
              Quote: vorobey
              This is Sukhorukov Vitya. - Tatrin from Brother 2. He also wanted the American dream. And got to imagine.

              Bugaga !!! laughing Sparrow is gaining a new batch of Russian Tatars, Evil Tatar candidate laughing
              1. +3
                15 August 2012 10: 43
                Quote: spender
                Sparrow is gaining a new batch of Russian Tatars

                Yeah, I scored one yesterday, all the party leaders went underground laughing
                1. spender
                  +3
                  15 August 2012 10: 45
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yeah, I scored one yesterday, all the party leaders went underground

                  Well, okay, you and I are "old fighters", we have strong nerves, but someone got a real shock from the spectacle and now they are tormented by nightmares laughing Sparrow with a shovel is less dangerous than with a picture laughing
                  1. +3
                    15 August 2012 10: 48
                    Quote: spender
                    and someone got a real shock from the sight

                    Yes, I’m saying, the mountains came and according to Freud went to look at the picture, still sitting in books on psychology laughing
                    1. +2
                      15 August 2012 10: 57
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      books on psychology sits

                      According to psychoanalysis. how it had not yet come to him that the shovel stalk by Freud was also a symbol. And then you would have unsubscribed earlier.
                      1. spender
                        +3
                        15 August 2012 10: 59
                        Quote: vorobey
                        that the shovel stalk according to Freud is also a symbol

                        This is how you were going to punish? belay
                        Romanoffff urgently underground !!!! laughing
                      2. +3
                        15 August 2012 11: 10
                        Guys here you freaks all the same. Well, he apologized, he made a joke of himself, but only give me your will to mock stupefied stumbled comrade
                      3. spender
                        +3
                        15 August 2012 11: 12
                        Quote: vorobey
                        Well, I apologized, jailed myself

                        I hope the handle of the spade as a phallic symbol was not used in this procedure ... wassat
                      4. +3
                        15 August 2012 11: 19
                        I say damn freaks. just mock. Mountain complain or something. let him rehabilitate you according to Freud.
                  2. 0
                    15 August 2012 12: 57
                    Guys what kind of picture? And then I was completely worn out with work, I lagged behind life.
                    1. +2
                      15 August 2012 13: 06
                      Eugene is not necessary about sad things. Your additions will be deadly to my subtle nature.
                      1. +1
                        15 August 2012 13: 09
                        Sasha, I will be honestly silent.
              2. +3
                15 August 2012 10: 43
                Quote: spender
                Evil Tatar candidate

                I like his thoughts. And you do not envy. Well nakosyachil. A pancake survived without a shovel, so try to face the table.
              3. +2
                15 August 2012 11: 07
                Quote: spender
                Bugaga !!! Sparrow is gaining a new batch of Russian Tatars, Evil Tatar candidate


                let him first change his nickname to a good Tatar, and there you can think laughing
              4. Evil Tatar
                +1
                15 August 2012 11: 43
                Quote: spender
                Sparrow is gaining a new batch of Russian Tatars, Evil Tatar candidate

                No ... So far no one has offered to get acquainted with the program, but without a piece of paper, you ....., well, in general - you yourself know how anyone ................

                I’ll wait for offers and may even agree to become the main member ............. but only to them, and nothing else ... laughing

                I mean, the main member of the combat wing of the party ... angry

                In a mixture with whom he gave birth - and .................... am
                1. +2
                  15 August 2012 11: 58
                  more careful Evgeny. Horus will appear and will teach you Freud.
                  Quote: Angry Tatar
                  I mean, the main member of the combat wing of the party ...

                  better responsible for the power block of issues.

                  Ofiget wrote a complaint to himself with a request to remove the post, and in response, the board will arrive, you can not complain about yourself.
                  And is this a free country? the most democratic site?
            2. +4
              15 August 2012 11: 09
              Quote: vorobey
              Not an uplone. This is Sukhorukov Vitya.- Tatrin from Brother 2. I also wanted the American dream. And got to imagine.


              Horror, my nickname has become shorter because of you !!! the letter o fell and disappeared request
              1. spender
                +2
                15 August 2012 11: 12
                Quote: Apollon
                Horror, my nickname has become shorter because of you !!! the letter o fell and disappeared

                Add the word Belvedere and the nickname will become longer smile
                1. +2
                  15 August 2012 11: 26
                  I thought a bit if I came to the conclusion that due to the fault of Comrade Sparrow I will lose one letter a month, on average then (one lost) in 6 months. nothing will remain of my nickname! ALAS


                  spender
                  Add the word Belvedere and the nickname will become longer

                  Do you want someone to break their tongue
        3. +3
          15 August 2012 11: 00
          hi straight to the point Dear vorobey!
          It may seem to someone here on the forum that Tkachev made a statement that is not falsified absolutely incorrect statement it was a conscious (calculation for the support of citizens of the region) but irresponsible statement.
          Usually such statements are made when the sword of Damocles is already listed above the leader.
          1. +3
            15 August 2012 11: 11
            Apollo,
            We are waiting for 14 years. Apparently someone else should report for Sochi.
            1. +3
              15 August 2012 11: 27
              Quote: vorobey
              Apollon, we are waiting for 14 of the year. Apparently someone else should report for Sochi.


              Я drinks always ready
        4. Karabekir
          +2
          15 August 2012 12: 53
          Quote: vorobey
          The weaver has had some kind of doom on his face and eyes lately. Personal opinion. Apparently and went vabank. Can lose nothing

          I agree!
          It was especially visible after Putin interrupted him!
          He is like a wilderness, as mortally wounded !!
      3. pribolt
        0
        15 August 2012 19: 39
        Chechens beat local residents in honor of Builder Day in Kuban
        http://www.1tvnet.ru/content/show/na-kubani-chechenci-izbili-mestnih-jitelei-v-c
        hest-dnya-stroitelya_13660.html
        In the Kuban village, the Caucasians "celebrated" the Builder's Day by attacking the locals with threats to "cut everyone."
        http://www.newsru.com/russia/15aug2012/plodorodny.html
    2. +2
      15 August 2012 10: 17
      Hello, Alesay!
      Whole and fully support, moreover, if you don’t mind, I would supplement the Kremlin without delay and immediately need to curb both heads of the subjects of the federation
      It seems to me that it’s time to gather the heads of the subjects for a meeting and to suggest that dirty linen from public houses cannot be brought to the public’s judgment. This is a very sensitive issue. Such things are decided within government bodies!
      The image of state bodies is falling. Do the leaders really not understand this?
    3. +1
      15 August 2012 10: 20
      spender,
      Good morning, Alexei, you’re right. Tkachev is not just a governor, but a politician of a great power and shouldn’t dare to say what kind of Chechens are ........ they are part of Russia, and I’m looking at Kadyrov from a guy in a tracksuit and nine in politics.
      1. spender
        +1
        15 August 2012 10: 25
        Quote: igor67
        and I’m watching Kadyrov studying from a guy in a tracksuit and a nine in politics.

        Just as long as he keeps Chechnya "in check" he will be supported, although his quirks with concerts of Stars and football matches also heat up the Center. hi
        All the same, the mentality makes itself felt, seized upon power, courage pret ... winked
        1. +1
          15 August 2012 10: 40
          The authorities spoil people, judging by friends they got a small one, but they knock on a job at work, even in the backyard.
          1. bachast
            0
            15 August 2012 10: 43
            Before that, was your friend normal? Strange friends
            1. +1
              15 August 2012 10: 48
              bachast,
              Want to check a person, give him power, before that I didn’t think about anything to share
              1. bachast
                0
                15 August 2012 10: 53
                I just think that the person was already like that and that’s why he got up a bit in the post and taps.
                In general, a friend is always a friend. So it was like that ... friends, comrades
              2. Karabekir
                +3
                15 August 2012 12: 54
                Quote: igor67
                Want to check a person, give him power, before that I didn’t think about anything to share

                You are absolutely right Igor !!
      2. +4
        15 August 2012 10: 38
        Quote: igor67
        make words should not


        First of all, I should not try to sit on two chairs. How he needs investments so please, but how relatives went - it began.
        although there is a share of pain in his words. He simply emphasized the failure of all national policies and ongoing programs in the region.
    4. +7
      15 August 2012 10: 29
      Quote: spender
      a government official cannot publicly push such slogans,


      Or maybe he told him like a state. state official to the official
      1. +4
        15 August 2012 10: 34
        Well, to hell with us officials on Rolls do not drive around, closer to the people and next to him.
      2. spender
        +2
        15 August 2012 10: 39
        Quote: Vadivak
        Or maybe he told him like a state. state official to the official

        Vadim, auto toys, but with a monument near a mosque in Grozny, there were some very serious "showdowns", there he didn’t "cut it" well, and I still remember a lot on TV playing how he drinks vodka hi
      3. Ataturk
        +10
        15 August 2012 12: 51
        Quote: Vadivak
        Or maybe he told him like a state. state official to the official


        He and his dad killed Russian children in Chechnya and received the title of Hero of Russia, for this, gentlemen, Russians, at the behest of Mr. Putin, pay him tribute from their taxes. for not all ramzanchik still bought cars and not all the money from the pockets pulled from the pockets edrovsky bloodsuckers.

        1. Karabekir
          +4
          15 August 2012 12: 57
          Quote: Ataturk
          He and his dad killed Russian children in Chechnya and received the title of Hero of Russia

          Omar, how many Russians killed the Russians? How many generals framed the young guys!
          The fact is that, having sided with Russia, Kadyrov did more than anyone to destroy the bandits!
          And did quite efficiently!
          1. +1
            15 August 2012 14: 47
            "Where will he go, from a submarine?"
            "If you want to live, you will not be so hot."
            It is as old as the world: "Slay your enemies and accept the law that murder is punishable by death", etc. etc.
            It is useless for us to evaluate Kadyrov's past - we will not find a common understanding of what is, that is, everyone has their own assessment - let our descendants judge. And those generals and mercenaries who made money in the war by the deaths of Russian soldiers are criminals and must be punished severely. The statement that "... having gone over to the side of Russia, Kadyrov did more than anyone else to destroy the bandits!" false for me, based on the substitution of concepts. The side that fought the bandits provided him with the conditions for restoring order in his native Chechnya. And on this it is necessary to put an end (or begin to assert that it was the bandits who fought with the people of Chechnya). It's another matter if Ramzan is now, in our opinion, mumbled, then it is advisable to discuss current affairs and it is advisable to discuss him, without looking back at the past.
    5. +4
      15 August 2012 10: 34
      That’s for sure, everything needs to be done silently, and not to be spoken about all over the country! And by the way, it’s not necessary to infringe on anything (decomp. Nationality)! It is just necessary to put these people in the framework of the law, and not to allow them to live according to their traditions and worldview, yet we are not in the Middle Ages. I think so personally.
    6. -1
      15 August 2012 11: 29
      Tkachev, and with our Stavropolsky as it is not very, ours also does not go into his pocket for a word, in short Tkachev buried (I got into the coast of Russia), it's time to change ...
      http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2012/08/09/n_2477121.shtml
    7. Karabekir
      0
      15 August 2012 12: 52
      Dear comrades!
      This is such a method in Tkachev, I noticed a long time ago!
      As soon as the elections or what problems he throws some sort of populist slogan for the Cossacks!
      Passed the stage !!
    8. Owl
      +1
      16 August 2012 16: 22
      If the "power" for such actions (licensing, selling land, encouraging diasporas) does not dismiss or judge its representatives, then the Kremlin "power" needs it and is profitable.
  2. itr
    +1
    15 August 2012 10: 08
    I Tkachev like a normal man !!
    1. spender
      +6
      15 August 2012 10: 14
      Quote: itr
      I Tkachev like a normal man !!

      Strange statement ... winked I would understand if you praised him as a governor, but recently the "failure" of the government with a flood, before that a scandal with the reserved lands sold to himself ... feel
      And as a man he let the women like laughing
      1. +3
        15 August 2012 10: 24
        Quote: spender
        And as a man he let the women like

        Aleksey, be careful - orientation is not the most important thing today laughing
    2. +2
      15 August 2012 10: 29
      Respected hi itr!

      Mr. Tkachev may be a wonderful guy in his life BUT, with his rash statements, he could blow up the situation in the North Caucasus.
      We are not evaluating his human qualities now, but the qualities of a leader.
      Sorry, I do not agree with your rating.
      1. 0
        15 August 2012 10: 40
        Quote: Apollon
        with his thoughtless statements could blow up the situation in the North Caucasus

        Or maybe Tkachev will simply be removed and there will be no explosion. Officials need to be changed, but with us they are kept on sweats until melt.
        1. +1
          15 August 2012 11: 23
          With all due respect, I do not agree with you! If by dissatisfaction (I picked up a little word smile ) Kadyrov to remove officials of this rank from his post, then he (Kadyrov) will generally become stiff, to say the least! But in a private conversation, of course, you need to explain to Tkachev that at his post ALL his statements are political.
      2. +1
        15 August 2012 11: 31
        I support! It seems that he plays the audience, and pokes the nose of the other leaders of the regions ... Looks at Putin will roll a barrel fellow
  3. Lech e-mine
    +4
    15 August 2012 10: 13
    it would be better if Kadyrov would deal with his Chechen lawlessnesses in MOSCOW and other regions. They behave, to put it mildly, disgustingly.
    1. +1
      15 August 2012 10: 29
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      it would be better if Kadyrov would deal with his Chechen lawlessnesses in MOSCOW and other regions. They behave, to put it mildly, disgustingly.

      In your words, he can answer Kadyrov.
    2. +7
      15 August 2012 10: 34
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      it would be better if Kadyrov


      In Moscow, there are armed Chechen policemen who appear to be “Kadyrov’s guards”. Even taking them red-handed, law enforcement agencies release armed "guards" to freedom

      list of detainees.

      1) Zelimkhan Israilov (nickname Beslan, Bes) is the operative officer of the Center for ensuring the security of persons subject to state protection of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Chechnya. I had certificate No. 001811 and a Stechkin pistol No. SK 1055K with me;

      2) Dzhambulat Makhmatmurziev - operative officer of the Department of Internal Affairs Directorate for the Schelkovo District of Chechnya (certificate CRE No. 002422, Stechkin pistol No. SV 380);

      3) Muskhadzhi Musulaev - operative officer of the Department of Internal Affairs for the Urus-Martan district of Chechnya (CRE No. 001796, Stechkin’s gun No. SK 653K);

      4) Yunus Rasukhadzhiev - junior sergeant of the regiment of the UVO of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Chechnya (ChRE No. 005084, pistol GS-18 No. 090676L);

      5) Adam Israilov - inspector of the special battalion of the traffic police of the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate for Operational Response of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Chechnya (CRE No. 001713, Stechkin’s gun No. SV 1656K);

      6) Khozh-Akhmed Israilov - opera-authorized ESD of the Department of Internal Affairs for the Nozhai-Yurt district of Chechnya (CRE No. 001801, Stechkin’s gun No. LV 991);

      7) Ibrahim-Bek Tagirov - born in 1977, a native of Kabardino-Balkaria ;,
    3. +3
      15 August 2012 10: 34
      .... And he does it without too much noise ..... instantly fired the representative of Chechnya whose wife in Moscow got into a scandal in my opinion with stop-boors, where fingers threatened to get everyone out with a fan ....
      Did the right thing
      In this situation, of course, Tkachev is wrong to make a loud statement in the press ......
      Do you want to put things in order with the visitors, a flag in your hands, who's stopping you?., You’re a district prince ..... your patrimony, so command .......
      And so it really resembles an attempt to move the arrows from a disaster with a flood in the province .......
  4. Friend
    +3
    15 August 2012 10: 14
    Ramzan would be better off doing his own people than letting snot into a handkerchief for no reason ...
    1. 0
      15 August 2012 10: 50
      I can’t imagine Ramzan with snot, but with a Kalash and a dagger at night in the mountains it’s very easy ................. could you tell him about snot in his face?
      1. Friend
        +3
        15 August 2012 11: 12
        It's not about his scarf .. about Putin’s scarf.
        The time will come, let’s say it in person .. although Tkachev has already begun to speak, and obviously not from scratch.
        1. Nir
          Nir
          -1
          15 August 2012 11: 21
          Quote: Amigo
          The time will come, let's say in person ..

          And what is lacking in spirit now, are we waiting all the time? You personally for rf what did you make useful? Recalled? Well, now compare with those merits of Ramzan. Have you compared? Are you ashamed? Here it is ... I’m writing like I’m cool, but now I will not say anything, but the time will come and I will not express myself. Think what you write. and remember (this applies to all fans of rattling arms) a bad world is better than any cute war game. wink
          1. +2
            15 August 2012 12: 56
            Amigo is certainly not a gift, but you Nir, blurted out without thinking - "You personally for RF, what did you do useful and useful? Remember? Well, now compare with those merits of Ramzan. Compare? You feel ashamed?" Personally, I got angry. A soldier who died in Chechnya - with what yardstick will we measure his merits? Everyone has their own rights and obligations in the system of social division of labor and their own measure of responsibility for the damage caused. Now everything is "upside down" - the higher the position, the less responsibility. We are all consumers of the "public administration" service, and if this service is of poor quality, we have the right to express our dissatisfaction and, the burden of state structures is not to be idle, but to respond to our needs.
  5. +3
    15 August 2012 10: 15
    Guys let's be friends. For example, I drummed who works next to me, worked with different nationalities, everywhere there are good people and villains, I don’t presume to single out anyone.
  6. +1
    15 August 2012 10: 17
    Tkachev is a public person .. And before blurt out something, I should THINK ... For in the mouth of a public person, his thoughts turn into slogans ... Therefore, his thoughts may be correct, but the slogan is not correct ... what
  7. -1
    15 August 2012 10: 23
    An interesting fact is the ignorance or rejection by senior officials of the basic law, the cat says that a Russian citizen can live where he wants. So then let us expel all non-indigenous from the territories. We will create enclaves and we will look menacingly at the neighbors from the concrete walls. They lack intelligence.
    Let them better engage in building international relations, rather than inflate the hotbed of hostility of the Caucasus issue, while trying to hide their inability to rule the region normally, and try to get a rating.
    1. bachast
      0
      15 August 2012 10: 27
      Well, he got better later, though ..
      According to Alexander Tkachev, the creation of Cossack squads may be one of the measures for prevention violations of migration law. “They will help police patrol the streets - without weapons, but in uniform,” he said. As the head of the region assures, the region already has experience of popular participation in the work of the police and "there is no national motive about which the howl on the Internet has been raised." The governor emphasized that representatives of the federal Ministry of Internal Affairs not only supported the idea of ​​Cossack squads, but were also going to apply this experience to other territories of the country
    2. +2
      15 August 2012 11: 22
      To protect their interests, people have always united on the basis of blood relationship, community of religion, nationality. One of the definitions of nationalism is "the desire of one nation to assert itself at the expense of another." However, it is also wrong when in one country, using various mechanisms (including government corruption), certain social groups, nationalities manage to put themselves in a privileged position: at one time - the Volga Germans, then the Cossacks, now the Chechens who will come to hinterland and they can do what the locals cannot. And the feeling of injustice (not to be confused with envy) is the main reason for any confusion. These processes must be wisely and rigorously managed, probably without unnecessary noise.
  8. +1
    15 August 2012 10: 27
    Of course, there are a lot of questions regarding the representatives of the North Caucasus (behavior, expansion, etc.), but do not forget about the "glorious" representatives of our people (skins, "Patriots of Russia" and other movements, such as advocating the purity of the nation and Russia), this is all debatable, especially since all these groups mainly consist of thugs, and this is skillfully used by all and sundry, including politicians. Hiding behind slogans such as - How long will we endure, Russia for the Russians and other dregs. And Kadyrov is certainly funny, apparently tired of indulging himself with "childish" amusements (buying clothes, watches and cars), now he decided to play a tough politician. But you and I know who put him to this post and how. So he behaves accordingly, just a little - I will complain to the Kremlin, ay yay, "I'll tell my dad" :)) Just as it is obvious that the representatives of the Arab world, and through them and the United States, are trying to make their game. But in this case - by. Making a puppet out of him will not work. Control is too strong.
  9. +1
    15 August 2012 10: 37
    Tkachev, to the right question, the uncontrolled spread of the population around the country contributes to only one crime, and this applies not only to the Transcaucasian republics.
  10. 0
    15 August 2012 10: 37
    At the expense of skins and the like from all sides and edges I agree. But the fact is that if a citizen has committed an offense, it is necessary to punish or reeducate according to general rules, and not ethnocultural, color-cutting. And we need to understand the basic truth WE LIVE IN THE ONE STATE) Imagine you and your wife, and the children living with you built a house. Accordingly, your common home is called. Suddenly, the father forbids his wife not to go to the toilet or bath and not to use water for under. A similar situation! Create normal legislation, an idea, educate people. This is not there. That's the vacuum and is filled with anything.
  11. +2
    15 August 2012 10: 39
    Kadyrov will be very worried about the weight of the decree. Maybe he consider himself to be the pre-president of this Kaukaz?
    Or does he already see himself in the chair of the president of Russia? If so, statements on other issues can be expected.
    And it’s also interesting how he will react if other governors comment on his activities in Chechnya? (Should governors not speak out publicly about each other. It could end in disastrous)
  12. +8
    15 August 2012 10: 42
    The question is not to be asked about Tkachev.
    The question must be posed about Ramzan. In recent years, Kadyrov and Chechnya have looked down on their neighbors and on Russia as a whole.
    I have the feeling that Kadyrov really considers too generous funding a real tribute. A sort of Crimean Khan.
    Here it begins to enter.
    I honestly say that my opinion is that Moscow is wrong. She pumps money to Chechnya to the detriment of other regions and raises a little Napoleonchik there.
    And Kadyrov himself already starred as they say.
    And again, my opinion is that very soon, he will want to crush the whole Caucasus for himself, well, judging by everything, the Kuban, the Stavropol Territory and Krasnodar.

    Then then anything can happen. And quiet Chechnya, like the stronghold of Great Kadyrov, will not be so quiet.

    And there, and not far to the Great Islamic Caliphate. is not it?
    So he begins to slowly begin to both Dagestan and Ingushetia and already Kuban "to teach life."
    And his boys are quietly glancing at the household level, crushing local business, officials, etc. But Moscow is silent ....... But it will remain silent.
    Remember who screams the Thief the loudest? ..........
    1. bachast
      +3
      15 August 2012 10: 50
      Kadyrov really considers too generous funding a real tribute

      He does not think so. Everyone has heard: - Allah gives money to Chechnya
      (Allah Vladimirovich)
      1. yak69
        +3
        15 August 2012 11: 08
        Allah gives, Allah will take!
      2. Karabekir
        0
        15 August 2012 13: 24
        bachast !!
        He is right!!))))
        1. bachast
          -1
          15 August 2012 16: 20
          I understand what he means and take it calmly and with irony wink
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XWap4cU1RE&feature=related
    2. +1
      15 August 2012 11: 44
      VOLKAN: "... In recent years, Kadyrov and Chechnya have looked down on their neighbors and at Russia as a whole. ... Kadyrov really considers too generous funding to be a real tribute."
      The way it is. Only it has always been like this - Chechnya looked down on it. And now it is a price to pay for stability, a conspiracy of the authorities, while one side can finance generously, and the other does not accumulate strength to dictate its terms. In the future, conflict is inevitable. And now Moscow "needs to raise the question" on both, one - to be smarter, the second - to be more modest.
  13. gorkoxnumx
    0
    15 August 2012 10: 58
    All of them in one world are anointed; they must all be demolished.
  14. sergskak
    +4
    15 August 2012 11: 02
    Tkachev there or someone else, had to say what he thinks.
    Some are engaged in trade, others in agriculture, carrying out activities such as the purchase of technical salt, and the conclusion of contracts for the supply of agricultural products to other regions of the country.
    It’s how they went up to salt. And it’s not a matter of buying salt, but boorish behavior of wild mountaineers all over the country. They are armed to the teeth, they don’t even touch the cops, they are afraid to get involved. Yes, they’ve become impudent at the end.
  15. Ataturk
    +7
    15 August 2012 11: 05
    I’m looking at the article, looking at the photo, reading the article and it’s not pleasant. Ah humpbacked hunchbacked. What have you done.
    Previously, the authorities had both military and smart people. They would never have allowed themselves extra words for hitting and so on that they would have raped so little that it would not have seemed, but now who comes to power? Those who once fought against the same government are hooligans, ignoramuses, evil people. One says my God is Putin, the other says Putin is a Jew, where did this unity go? Some users are telling the truth here, how did we all live aaa before? What happened? People have lost their human essence. Even if at the helm and power, people stole themselves through 5 faces and at the same time fed people, now they openly steal and take people away. Hm.
    1. yak69
      +3
      15 August 2012 11: 50
      The greatest achievement of Soviet power was the REAL friendship of peoples. I myself was born in Central Asia and I had many friends of different nationalities. We went to visit each other in different mahallas (districts), studied at school together, went in for sports, went hiking. Even many Jews managed to assimilate the Soviet regime — they became real Soviet people. But this is a real NEW community of NEW people with a NEW mentality! This is a real evolutionary breakthrough in the history of mankind!
      And this is precisely what the world backstage mafiosi were afraid of and began to destroy our country with renewed vigor. Found a hunchback, he gathered around him the same scum and fratricidal orgy began!
      This must be resisted starting with oneself, not even allowing thoughts of interethnic disunity. Everyone is equal before the law, but the criminal does not have a nationality.
      1. 0
        15 August 2012 12: 27
        yak69, it was all, but now it is long gone. Now there is a different community with a different system of values. This is the first thing. Secondly, it is necessary to fight against manifestations of nationalism, this is unconditional. But the problem of our government is that the fight against nationalism of national minorities does not manifest itself at all or manifests itself as nationalism of the national majority. And "thoughts of interethnic disunity" will inevitably arise in the event of economic conflicts, which in the conditions of modern Russia will always and inevitably acquire a national connotation. How will we treat unscrupulous competitors of our own and other nationalities? It is clear that, first of all, all the shooters will converge on visitors.
        1. Ataturk
          +2
          15 August 2012 12: 43
          V. Salama - the beauty of the USSR was that everything was controlled by everyone and everyone was punished very harshly. If you have committed a crime, everything is pi-pez. Until the 3rd generation, that family is doomed. Previously, they thought that people would say that they would think what kind of civil marriages in FIG, they pointed a finger. People thought about their self-esteem, prestige. In a word, the conveyor grew CULTURAL SOCIETY. Even sex was almost in a coat))))))))))

          I'm tired of talking about it. Sorry. Though we’ll watch the video and laugh.

          1. bachast
            +1
            15 August 2012 13: 12
            You can laugh
            1. +2
              15 August 2012 15: 03
              A clip about the national team - disgusting, like a Russian cocked. And that you put it here.
              1. bachast
                -1
                15 August 2012 15: 47
                And many Russians here will call themselves skins? Are you a skinhead?
                We go further, you do not believe that this happens in life?
          2. 0
            15 August 2012 14: 04
            Control, as a function of government, will always exist as long as the state exists. Now state control is no less total than in Soviet times, but we do not notice this because the mess is bigger and the priorities of this control are different so far. By inertia, it seems to us that if we are free to create and watch such programs (clips), then there is more freedom. Freedom has become and steal more. They fought for this, and for this, they allow you to do what you want, so as not to be in contrast. Just to not shake the foundations ... like the punk band Pussy Riot, for example, everything immediately became harsh there, as in the old days.
        2. yak69
          0
          15 August 2012 15: 59
          Thoughts on national disengagement on an economic basis arise from narrow thinking. Who prevents us Russian, Ukrainians, Belarusians from helping each other ?! I saw and attended many times during the conversations. Well, they say, look again THESE came in large numbers, seized trade, markets, and give bribes. Has anyone seen the mutual assistance of the Slavic peoples outside of Russia? Always, as a rule, one picture will either be turned away, or will be quietly envied. Of course, not all of them are, but for some reason, the ill-intentioned ones are more common. Who is stopping us from supporting each other? Who are we, Russians, etc. prevents you from rallying and doing any thing? Or those who are attracted by visiting people who are not Russian? All these mayors, bureaucrats on the spot, look what nationality they are (for that matter).
          No, it is not a matter of nationality, it is a matter of a particular person.
          And yet, as a rule, not the best ones leave their native lands - I see it from my life: a good person, skilled craftsman, responsible, such with hands to grab at home. And gouges (as a rule) always look for something in foreign lands (I’m talking about earnings).
          Where he was born, there he fit.
          And about: people have become different, values ​​have changed, it's all about reasoning reasoning. A man (if he is a man, and not a lurking insignificance) always, in any situation, remains a man. Gold does not rust. What such values ​​can change ?! Fatherland, family, respect for elders, responsibility, honor? If they were not in someone initially, then this has now manifested itself ..
          This is either there or not (and never has been).
      2. Ataturk
        +1
        15 August 2012 12: 37
        Quote: yak69
        The greatest achievement of Soviet power was the REAL friendship of peoples.


        It's right. Most importantly, you forgot to mention, people were kinder, and now they are evil. Maybe because of the standard of living? Previously, somehow the bulk of the population of the USSR lived on the same level.

        Yes, before that just wasn’t. For example, my neighbor, an Armenian (aunt Arina), nursed me at one time, although now her people have become an enemy to my people. I do not think that she wanted such a coup.

        It's just that all the people of the USSR have become hostages to a couple of freaks!

        Quote: yak69
        But this is a real NEW community of NEW people with a NEW mentality! This is a real evolutionary breakthrough in the history of mankind!


        There is no reason for me to be proud of this evolution.

        Quote: yak69
        Found a hunchback, he gathered around him the same scum and fratricidal orgy began!

        Plus for you!

        Quote: yak69
        This must be resisted starting with oneself, not even allowing thoughts of interethnic disunity. Everyone is equal before the law, but the criminal does not have a nationality.


        There is the truth of your words, but souls and hearts are poisoned. Wars and murders, all right, soldiers would die, civilians were dying, and unfortunately they were killed with fierce cruelty.

        BTW, I was holding a list of such people, 90% of these animals were not from the USSR, they were mercenaries. Of course, it cannot be denied that they had their own animals, but the bulk of the atrocities came from outside the USSR.

        Good luck and peace in your home!
        1. yak69
          +1
          15 August 2012 13: 58
          Thank you for your wishes and also wish peace and good to your home!

          Still, one must be above resentment and claims. It is necessary to cleanse your heart and soul from the poison of insults. Without this condition, never achieve real peace between everyone. But, truly great and powerful people (ethnic groups) possess the ability to forgive and extend a hand of friendship no matter what. Otherwise, an endless war until complete mutual extinction. Peace and forgiveness have only one alternative — the death of corruption.
          1. yak69
            0
            15 August 2012 14: 18
            But this does not mean at all that you need to chew snot on your ear. Any act of aggression must be answered with a lightning and crushing blow, very powerful and tough! Well, then offer a hand of friendship laughing
    2. 0
      15 August 2012 12: 01
      The time is now, his mother ...
  16. +1
    15 August 2012 11: 14
    Yes, how things are changing ... probably getting older ... the word tolerance from a medical term has become commonplace ... Kadyrov from a bandit becomes a politician ... quickly you forgot his previous statements ... as for Tkachev ... in the next election of the governor they can choose what kind of Mammad ... then, he and everyone else will not find it enough ... they started fussing ... you can say they’ve gotten enough ...
  17. yak69
    +4
    15 August 2012 11: 16
    I still cannot understand who is in the Caucasus and for what purposes is Moscow growing? It seems to me that we, ordinary citizens, are racking our brains over the arrangement of our state, and in the Kremlin organized crime group they simply "chop cabbage" for the long Texas winter.
    Very much everything is twisted into a tight knot, as if again it was not necessary to chop ...
  18. +2
    15 August 2012 11: 16
    AtaturkThe crap .....
    1. Ataturk
      +1
      15 August 2012 11: 38
      Quote: AIR-ZNAK
      Ataturk, Crap .....

      Whatever it is, it will hit the commoner. ALAS
  19. +2
    15 August 2012 11: 36
    Quote: yak69
    Very much everything is twisted into a tight knot, as if again it was not necessary to chop ...

    You will have to chop it alive, because the gangen has spread throughout the body. It was not enough in the early 90s of political wisdom to say goodbye to the North Caucasus and separate them from such a mother. Now there's nothing to be done, they are the same as we are citizens of the Russian Federation and there are no civilized methods for solving the problem.
    1. Evil Tatar
      0
      15 August 2012 12: 06
      Quote: bairat
      It was not enough in the early 90s of political wisdom to say goodbye to the North Caucasus and separate them from such a mother. Now there's nothing to be done, they are the same as we are citizens of the Russian Federation and there are no civilized methods for solving the problem.

      Another separator appeared ... Amazing, Lord, deeds ...

      Well this skrka of mind should be with people. What would write such crap?

      Yes, separate yourself in your village, and sit there with your own painted currency ...
  20. +1
    15 August 2012 11: 49
    Quote: V. Salama
    To protect their interests, people have always united on the basis of blood relationship, community of religion, nationality. One of the definitions of nationalism is "the desire of one nation to assert itself at the expense of another." However, it is also wrong when in one country, using various mechanisms (including government corruption), certain social groups, nationalities manage to put themselves in a privileged position: at one time - the Volga Germans, then the Cossacks, now the Chechens who will come to hinterland and they can do what the locals cannot. And the feeling of injustice (not to be confused with envy) is the main reason for any confusion. These processes must be wisely and rigorously managed, probably without unnecessary noise.

    I agree and support!
  21. sahha
    +3
    15 August 2012 11: 57
    that residents of the republics of the North Caucasus should not be allowed to enter the Kuban, but those who have already been "let in" need to be squeezed out.


    I dare to report that so many Russians think so, but not many have the courage to express it (or vice versa).

    PS Not only the Kuban.
  22. Seriy
    +1
    15 August 2012 12: 03
    Tkachev may not have expressed himself quite correctly, but on the whole correctly. Probably many of those present here were not in the Stavropol Territory, did not hear about the events in Stavropol, Stepnoy, recent in Kislovodsk, etc. Cossacks as a way to organize Russians, restore their identity, I think a good tool potentially. The point is not to infringe on someone's rights, but to put in place those who have gone too far. The police and authorities in the same Stavropol Territory do not solve problems, and the people, Tkachev correctly says, have largely lost their sense of community
  23. Oleg1986
    0
    15 August 2012 12: 16
    Both are standing each other. Only one, apparently, believed in permissiveness, and the second, indeed, did something blurry from doom. Such serious questions do not solve aloud. The gunpowder is too dry.
  24. sahha
    0
    15 August 2012 12: 22
    in the Kuban, the number of immigrants from the North Caucasus republics, it is worth noting that over the past 3-4 years, this number has steadily increased.


    Subsequently, this group will beat and kill the indigenous population (and not only) in which case.
  25. 0
    15 August 2012 12: 32
    You can’t catch the word like a bird flying out. Tkachev is more likely not able to properly restore order, moreover, Krymsk, Kushchevka and other problems are making themselves felt. I wonder what he is going to do with the Armenians which, if I’m not mistaken, is almost half. And how he will explain it to them that they say you need to leave, so the question arises. You know which one!
    1. Seriy
      +1
      15 August 2012 12: 39
      No one is against the Armenians, moreover, they are an order of magnitude calmer than the same Chechens. The question is that the police are not able to solve the problem when there is pressure nat. Diasporas on the verge of law. Moreover, in the case of the Don camp, for example, with the same Armenians last year, they themselves turned out to be the injured party from the Chechens
      He correctly said that it’s more dangerous to be silent about this problem than to speak.
  26. andrey903
    0
    15 August 2012 12: 43
    Apparently Kadyr sentenced Tkachev, and the Kremlin notifies this
  27. 0
    15 August 2012 12: 53
    Everyone must comply with the law. Accepted for everyone. It is not the Cossack detachments that are outraged, but the expulsion of the statement from the territory, the following would have been more competent: To expel a specific group or for violation of persons, with a further refusal of permanent registration in the territory of the Red Territory. Something like that.
  28. 0
    15 August 2012 12: 59
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    Another separator appeared ... Amazing, Lord, deeds ...

    Well this skrka of mind should be with people. What would write such crap?

    Yes, separate yourself in your village, and sit there with your own painted currency ...

    Why the hell is that? Affected and non-treatable organs are amputated. And if you don’t have enough brains to get rid of it in time, then you get a disease spreading throughout the body. We got to the head, here we gave comparisons of the number of drugs in Kiev, Minsk and Moscow.
    R.S. change your nickname, you're too reckless for a Tatar.
    1. Evil Tatar
      +2
      15 August 2012 13: 32
      Quote: bairat
      Why the hell is that? Affected and non-treatable organs are amputated.

      Listen, my dear ... What kind of fool will separate the territories of Russia that are not attached to her body by you? You?
      Who will give you? Who are you? No, well, who are you to squander my Motherland in pieces?
      Forcing unbridled Kadyrov’s and non-Kadyrov’s, spoiled former militants to order is another matter ...
      Force any available means ...
      But to divide Russia into new khanates, khanates, etc. - madness ...
      With what I congratulate you ...
      Quote: bairat
      R.S. change your nickname, you're too reckless for a Tatar.

      Do not advise, madman, what to do - you will hear less about yourself ...
      Get well soon, eccentric.
  29. +1
    15 August 2012 13: 47
    In this case, Tkachev only opened his mouth, the phonogram was prepared in the Kremlin. It is definitely impossible for the president to raise such a topic himself, no one will understand, but the governor of Kuban is just right - the Olympics are on his territory in a year and a half, and the problem with the "Caucasian lads" does exist. The problem somehow needs to be solved quickly - so the trial balloon is launched.
    1. Evil Tatar
      0
      15 August 2012 13: 54
      Quote: Bully
      In this case, Tkachev only opened his mouth, a phonogram was prepared in the Kremlin.

      I also think ... This looks like a signal to change the Kremlin's position to the status of a "fighter against terrorism" - to Kadyrov and Co. ...
      Stop appeasing, it's time to ask for the allocated resources ...
  30. 0
    15 August 2012 13: 47
    Already shared) The experience of the USSR is not enough for you, now they say that this was a major geopolitical mistake! HOW TO WARM TO BREAK DO NOT BUILD!
  31. 0
    15 August 2012 13: 52
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    Listen, my dear ... What kind of fool will separate the territories of Russia that are not attached to her body by you? You?

    Separate the same 14 republics, as it survived.
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    Who will give you? Who are you? No, well, who are you to squander my Motherland in pieces?

    calm down, already spit the entire monitor
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    Forcing unbridled Kadyrov’s and non-Kadyrov’s, spoiled former militants to order is another matter ...

    Yes, I see how to force. The whole country works for them.
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    Do not advise, madman, what to do - you will hear less about yourself ...

    I don’t know if you should be advised to be a little more restrained, or did the brain disease acquire an inevitable stage? ....
  32. Evil Tatar
    -1
    15 August 2012 14: 06
    Quote: bairat
    calm down, already spit the entire monitor

    You have too high an opinion of yourself ...
    With a calm, stony face and balanced state, I scribble my posts for you, but it’s good that you perceive them as a shout ... Go awry.

    Quote: bairat
    Yes, I see how to force. The whole country works for them.

    But this phrase, says that you are a meager, do not write from Russia ...
    How are we, and you?

    Quote: bairat
    I don’t know if you should be advised to be a little more restrained, or did the brain disease acquire an inevitable stage? ....

    You can advise me everything you can, another question, but will I use your advice?
    Guess once ...
    Damn, how so - with once? After all, crazy people .....
    All right ...
    Guess three times ...
  33. 0
    15 August 2012 14: 24
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    Your opinion of yourself is too high ...
    With a calm, stony face and balanced state I snarl

    Well done, quickly calmed down, in this state, and drift on.
    Quote: Angry Tatar
    But this phrase, says that you are a meager, do not write from Russia ...

    Have you heard about such a country Tatarstan?

    Quote: Angry Tatar
    How are we, and you?

    Who am I (c) to force someone? I personally have no problems with other nationalities. And I'm worried about the country.
    1. Evil Tatar
      +1
      16 August 2012 05: 29
      Quote: bairat
      Have you heard about such a country Tatarstan?

      No, I have not heard, because there is no such ... There is the Republic of Tatarstan in the country of Russia.
      Quote: bairat
      I personally have no problems with other nationalities. And I'm worried about the country.

      You rejoice about the collapse of the USSR, then you write about the exclusion of Chechens from the list ...
      Who's next?
      Quote: bairat
      Well done, quickly calmed down, in this state, and drift on.

      Smiled ... I guess I like House-2? Oh well...
      Better keep silent, if there is nothing to say, brother Tatar Airat ...
      And then you look like po ...
  34. Odinplys
    +1
    15 August 2012 17: 36
    All this is a politics-game no more ...
    Tkachev earns points before the Cossacks ... Kadyrov before the Chechens ...
  35. +2
    15 August 2012 18: 54
    Tkachev already messed up in his region, and now he is trying to move the arrows to the side. There is a problem with Caucasians as such and it needs to be solved. By the way, are site visitors familiar with the statements of Caucasians that they will slaughter Cossacks. Do you know how many have already died? And why is it so Caucasians hate the Cossacks? Have you thought about this? I think that Caucasians subconsciously feel that against their lawlessness, only one united force can resist, this is the Cossacks. I think that the confrontation is artificially inflated. And there forces are involved that exceed the capabilities of Tkachev and Kadyrov. So they play the Caucasian card. Please remember that national problems are easy to create, but very difficult to solve. Sincerely.
    1. +1
      15 August 2012 19: 24
      Quote: suharev-52
      I think that the confrontation is artificially inflated. And there forces are involved that exceed the capabilities of Tkachev and Kadyrov. So they play the Caucasian card.

      I think you're right, it is unlikely that Tkachev made high-profile statements regarding national politics without looking back upward, and he certainly knew Kadyrov’s possible reaction
  36. indrik
    0
    15 August 2012 23: 00
    pressed these Vainakhs and nokhchi, but did not give to finish
    Now we reap what we deserve ((((
  37. denn
    0
    27 August 2012 21: 07
    The whole topic with the Caucasus, which has been going on for decades, is the solar plexus through which they are trying to break through Russia. All this nat. hype - the results and consequences of acts from without. I believe that everyone should soberly assess everything that is happening, they are trying and will try to shake the country on this. Therefore, they will foment information, conflicts. It is necessary to punish the guilty, to cool hotheads, not to touch the innocent, regardless of nationality. Well, to conduct a competent migration policy.
    IMHO.
    As early as the 90th, Chechnya was a much calmer place than the center of Russia and the Russians went there on vacation with their families - this is what the military says. Personally, in childhood, he was adjacent to several Chechen families. They lived well, worked together, made friends, went on a visit, exchanged the culture of both children and adults. It was a tradition for all neighbors to gather after potatoes in the fall at a large fire in the evenings.