It is reported about the firing of Greek air defense using the S-300 air defense system in the presence of the US military

The Lebanese and Israeli press report on military exercises that the Greek army held on the island of Crete and in its waters. One of the elements of the exercise was to practice the actions of the air defense forces.

The reports say that the Greek Armed Forces carried out rocket fire using the S-300 air defense system.

Corresponding materials appeared in the Turkish media, where it was indicated that the shooting was carried out at the Khanat training ground - in the eastern part of Crete.

From messages:

Shooting with the use of Russian S-300 air defense systems was carried out in the presence of the military of the United States, Germany and the Netherlands.

It is noted that "if the United States threatens Turkey with sanctions for acquiring the S-400 air defense system from Russia, then no threats are voiced against Greece, which uses Russian air defense systems."

The Greek Ministry of Defense does not comment on statements about firing using the Russian-made S-300 anti-aircraft missile system.

Recall that these air defense systems ended up in NATO Greece after Russia had delivered them to Cyprus. Then Turkey was categorically against the deployment of S-300s in Cyprus. In order not to escalate the situation, it was decided to export the complexes from Cyprus to Greece. According to the press, now they are located in Greek Crete.

Comments

[Lech from Android.]

"If the United States threatens Turkey with sanctions for acquiring the S-400 air defense system from Russia, then no threats are voiced against Greece, which uses Russian air defense systems."

The Greeks have long leaked all the information to the Americans about these S-300s ... the Americans have nothing to do with it ... everything has already been stolen. An exercise was conducted with Israel to break through the defense with the participation of the S-300 ... so everything is fine, everyone is happy ...

[Finches]

It's good that the C-75 was not used, then Powers' ashes would have stirred

[Civil]

Perhaps this is due to the use of UAVs against the s-300 of Armenia, in fact, Turkey showed a way to destroy the Greek (also old modifications) s-300.

[barclay]

I wonder what the Greeks will do when they run out of rockets or or they have an expiration date. Would big brother let them go to the manufacturer?

[neri73-r]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Greeks have long leaked all the information to the Americans about these S-300s ... the Americans have nothing to do with it ... everything has already been stolen.

Many times, specialists have already spoken at different sites that experts' access to hardware alone will not give them anything, the main thing is algorithms, but you just can't get them, plus they are constantly being improved and changed from modification to modification. It is also an export version. The United States has already purchased not export versions of our S-300 and that, but things are still there.

[Avior]

The Greek S-300s first stood in storage for 15 years in hangars, and only then they were involved in exercises.
The Turks are unlikely to agree

[Toucan]

Why wouldn't they agree? Or Turkey withdrew from NATO? Sooner or later, American specialists will have access to the Turkish S-400. I wouldn't be surprised if this has already happened.

[Lech from Android.]

I won’t be surprised if this has already happened.

And what is the price of the issue from the Turks?

[Toucan]

Turkey is extremely interested in restoring relations with the United States in full. Turkey is in dire need of new fighters, American technology and components for its equipment.

[Lech from Android.]

But what about the treaty with Russia?

[zadorin1974]

So the Sultan gave his word, took the word, who gave him a decree)))))

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Tucan

Sooner or later, American specialists will have access to the Turkish S-400. I wouldn't be surprised if this has already happened.

The first batch of S-400, which was delivered to Turkey, was received in the form of direct purchase. Technology transfer and co-production were postponed until the second phase of the project, with the announcement that the delivery of the second batch of S-400s could not begin until late 2020. And this still gives us such a time benchmark as the beginning of 2021. In addition, the transfer of technology in the production of components of air defense systems in Turkey will be partial, one that does not threaten the defense capability of Russia. But this is all in the future, as Putin recently said ... Putin keeps Erdogan on the hook with the bait of the S-400 air defense system, and with the threat of a breach of the contract, he can easily cancel it.

[Toucan]

It is not yet clear who is "holding whom". Our government does not think ahead at all. Especially considering that the S-400 was sold to the Turks on credit. With regard to "technology transfer", please share the details?

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Tucan

With regard to "technology transfer", please share the details?

And you yourself cannot find it on the Internet ???????

[Toucan]

And you yourself cannot find it on the Internet ???????

The burden of proof rests with whoever claims something. Or are you not responsible for your words?

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Tucan

The burden of proof rests with whoever claims something.

Why do I need to prove something to you if you are pre-charged to negate "vyfsevrete! Meaning? Waste time and nerves. Moreover, this is off topic.

[Toucan]

Understood thanks! You are not responsible for your words ... For some reason, I'm not surprised.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Tucan

Understood thanks!

Yes, not at all !!!!!

[Azimuth]

There is no point in accessing export modifications. Moreover, there is nothing unreal and outside the laws of physics. Specialists understand a lot even when they get acquainted with photo or video complexes.
Taking into account the fact that all these are complexes of the end of the Soviet era and on the principles laid down in Soviet times, and given the scale of betrayals during the collapse of the USSR and after, it is unlikely that there is something unknown for the Americans. That is, the principles, etc., are known and understandable, but the real and precise characteristics of specific modifications, our tactics and strategy is another matter, this is constantly being studied, and the Turks do not need a hundred years for this.

[silberwolf88]

the politics of the striped ones is as old as the World ... divide and conquer ... double standards ... and state court orders ... about who is what in the world and who owes ... BUT the situation has changed ... and they are increasingly send ... even allies ...

[uav80]

then the United States was also against it, so the missiles went not to the Cypriots, but to the Greeks.

[uav80]

The Greeks have complexes more than 20 years old (in 96 they signed a contract, in 98 they began to think about what to do next because the Turks and the United States were against it, in 99 the delivery was carried out), soon the warranty period is just coming up (25 years ), we decided to conduct throw tests at the same time to fray the Turks' nerves.
The contract for fresh missiles was going to be signed back in 2015, but then everything died out ...

[Graz]

all the same, it is better not to sell such complexes to NATO in order to avoid

[cniza]

Shooting with the use of Russian S-300 air defense systems was carried out in the presence of the military of the United States, Germany and the Netherlands.

Find out their reaction ...

[rotmistr60]

Shooting with the use of Russian S-300 air defense systems was carried out in the presence of the military of the USA, Germany and the Netherlands

Compliance with NATO protocols or invited to support their "pants"? At the same time, the information is provided by the Turkish media, and Greece is silent. The results of the shooting are also unknown.

[Azimuth]

It is noted that "if the United States threatens Turkey with sanctions for acquiring the S-400 air defense system from Russia, then no threats are voiced against Greece, which uses Russian air defense systems."

This proves once again that NATO is a military organization designed to protect only the interests of Europeans, the Old World, and their descendants who moved like locusts to the New World.
Turks, Muslims, NATO is a misunderstanding associated with the geographic location of Turkey and human resources, which are used in the interests and to minimize the losses of white Sahibs. That is, Turkey is stupid and only a beachhead, and stupidly CANNON MEAT in the form of the most numerous NATO ground forces in Europe. The Turks finally got it, that's all.

It's not about the F-35. Turkey is simply not allowed to build a national air defense system and become self-sufficient in the military sense in order to continue to manipulate and control it in the future.

[Toucan]

Do I understand correctly, you say that there is no national air defense system in Turkey?
Especially for those who think so, some time ago there was a series of publications devoted to Turkish air defense.
Link to the end of the cycle:
https://topwar.ru/166415-postavka-rossijskih-zrs-s-400-v-turciju-i-vozmozhnye-posledstvija-jetogo-shaga.html

[Max Lebedev]

Call to "figures" from Rosoboronexport

[Wolf]

Greek Civil War 1946-1949

So few people know that the first sukob of the Russian army and NATO (then it was not called NATO) it is better to call the Anglo-Saxon Union was in 1944 near the outskirts of the city of Niš - Serbia, an air battle! Amerikantsi just attacked Ruske Yurishne Avion without warning !!! So that you wouldn’t be told about your allies in WWII.
The Greeks lost 300.000 people in World War II killed on the side of the Italians and the Germans. They fought bravely against the occupier. But in Septembre and October 2 Ruska, the army attacked the German army of group E, which tried and managed to escape from Greece, helped by the Serbian partisans and often the Bulgarian army against the Germans. But all the same, the Germans did not have time to capture the defensive line on the Danube against the red armies.
It should be added that the "allies" of England and the United States did not fight and did not try to set up an army group so that they could go to the Danube. Instead, they practically chased the Nemtsov to get to the Danube faster, and bombed the Serbske city in Serbia, ostensibly to cause damage to the Germans. In 1944, many more Serb civilians died in these bombers than in 1941 when Hitler attacked Yugoslavia.
But by the end of 44 the Red Army, the Serbian partisans met with the Greek partisans. Why did England and the United States attack the Rus near Niš? It was not either a mistake or an accident that they had a plan for a long time WILL OCCUPATE GREECE, AND THAT HINDERED THE GREEK GUARANTEES WHO WERE AGAINST THE ITALIANS AND GERMANS OD 1941.
And so we arrive until 1945-46 and the command of the Greek "Grazhdanske" war IN REALITY IT WAS THE OCCUPATION OF THE GREEKS ON THE SIDE OF THE ENGLISH !!! England, in a place with a part of the Greek royalist army of the Habsburgs (the King in Greece was from the surname Habsburg) was attacked by the Greek partisans. The war lasts until 49. A lot of people died, and OD 49. GREECE UNDER THE OCCUPATION OF ANGLOSAKS LIKE KYPAR !!! It was a great tragedy for the Greek nation in the photo app. So the Anglo-Saxons Greece and Greeks serve simply as slaves and use them for their intended purpose.
WITHOUT DUMMEN, THEY WILL BRING TO THE GREECE AS A SACRIFICE TO THE TURKS WHEN TIME COMES. Eto and out of the plane, the reaction of the Anglo-Saxons during the occupation of Cyprus, as well as strongly economically and militarily strengthened by Turkey, namely on the side of NATO, Germany, England, and the United States.
The fact that Germany is in alliance with the Angles today is not accidental, Germany has worked or tried to work out dirty work for the Anglo-Saxons and in the Second World War.
The fact that NATO came to the S300 show was just to find out how much the Greek air defense was Sirius and how much life could be dangerous for THEM, but not to find out something about the S300.

[DAQ]

I had a "broken eye" while trying to read.
If it's not a secret, what is your accent (native language)?

[Wolf]

Serbian is native and clan, southern dialect of Slavic, therefore, the question is right: What is your accent? The Slavs do not have different languages, but different dialects, and how much this sounds strange to you. All Slavs speak ONE language and in different dialects!