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In American media: Iranian claims about the method of eliminating the nuclear scientist are similar to the scenario of a Hollywood action movie

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In American media: Iranian claims about the method of eliminating the nuclear scientist are similar to the scenario of a Hollywood action movie

The American press is reacting to the statements of the Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran Ali Shamkhani about the method used to eliminate the atomic scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. According to Shamkhani, the scientist was killed using weapons, "Controlled remotely through a satellite channel." At the same time, Tehran believes that the murder of the physicist is the work of Israeli intelligence. Earlier on Press TV, there were materials that reported "the discovery of ammunition, electronics and elements of weapons of Israeli production."


Shamkhani:

The enemy used a completely new method and style of carrying out the attack.

American columnist Joseph Trevithick writes that Iranian statements about the method of assassinating a nuclear physicist "are more like the scenario of a Hollywood action movie." At the same time, Trevithick on the pages of the military section of The Drive adds that light remote-controlled rifle and artillery modules exist.

From the material:

The Iranian special services' statement sounds like they have just revisited the 1997 militant Jackal. But all this does not look entirely believable, although such weapons exist.

The same material points to the presentation by Israel of its portable remote-controlled turret, with which the operator of the weapon can scan targets, capture them in the sighting device and further defeat them through control from a tablet computer.

The US media indicates that Iranian statements contradict each other. Initially, it was reported that the first explosion thundered, after which fire was opened on Fakhrizada's car, then reports appeared that the remote-controlled machine-gun mount opened fire, and the explosion thundered later.

The American press says that Iran has not yet shown any "satellite-guided installation" or its fragments. In this regard, it is assumed that by their statements the Iranian special services are trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for the fact that Fakhrizade's route was not checked and turned out to be fatal for the nuclear physicist. It is also indicated that in any case, in circles close to the scientist Fakhrizada, there are people who are well aware of his plans, including travel routes.

At the same time, it can be stated that in recent years six prominent nuclear physicists, involved in the development of the Iranian nuclear industry, have been killed in Iran. It is worth recalling the remote disablement of one of the Iranian nuclear facilities, when a vulnerability in the network was exploited using a computer program.
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 1 December 2020 06: 59
    +9
    The Mossad is one of the strongest intelligence services in the world, and they eat their bread for a reason. So nothing funny. And by the way, action films also have good ideas. hi
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 07: 07
      +15
      And by the way, action films also have good ideas.

      Battle for Algeria
      ... a terrorist guide ... yeah.
      Killing scientists is not good ...
      The UN did not condemn this act of Israeli terrorism ... even called on Iran to come to terms with it.
      I can imagine what Gutteresh would have said if Iranian special services had killed some high-ranking Mossad official.
      In the place of the Iranians, I would figure out one of the customers of this terrorist attack and organize a demonstrative response.
      If this is not done, the Jews will endlessly kill Iranian scientists.
      1. high
        high 1 December 2020 08: 05
        +1
        White fluffy Iran ...
        A couple of days ago, he was sentenced in Belgium to 20 years, for terrorism, an Iranian diplomat, for organizing a failed bomb explosion in Europe ...
        Iran tried to destroy the Iranian opposition group,

        If you remember 1994, in Argentina, Iran blew up the building of the Argentine Association of Israelis, as a result of which 85 people were killed and hundreds were injured.
        Argentina has accused the Iranian leadership of terrorism, opened criminal cases, and issued arrest warrants. the two leaders of Iran, however, the young prosecutor investigating Iranian terrorism died unexpectedly.
        Argentina was unable to investigate who was behind the death of the prosecutor ...
        UN did not condemn Iran for attempted assassination of Israeli diplomats in Azerbaijan, India, Thailand
        Yes, there is a war between Iran and Israel .... by the way, military spending:
        - Iran, $ 7,463 billion rubles (1,8% of GDP)
        - Israel, $ 16,5 billion rubles (4,39% of GDP)
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 1 December 2020 09: 18
          +2
          There are a few oddities:
          - The security car in front of the assassination site rushes forward
          - A scientist, having heard the sound of bullets hitting the body of an armored Nissan-Tiano, for some reason gets out of the car and gets 3 bullets.
          - In the nearest hospital, the lights are turned off, so the wounded are being taken to a distant one.
          1. Arpad
            Arpad 1 December 2020 09: 25
            +3
            Quote: Thrall
            There are a few oddities:
            - The security car in front of the assassination site rushes forward
            - A scientist, having heard the sound of bullets hitting the body of an armored Nissan-Tiano, for some reason gets out of the car and gets 3 bullets.
            - In the nearest hospital, the lights are turned off, so the wounded are being taken to a distant one.

            well nobody knows the truth yet.
            And there is only one strangeness.
            In the center of Tehran, a specially guarded object was destroyed (the general of the IRGC and the leader of the nuclear program).
            There are no traces.
            No one is caught.
            At the same time, Iran reports
            Iran: we knew about the preparation of the assassination attempt on Fakhrizada ... spoke about the awareness of the authorities about the impending assassination attempt on Fakhrizada

            here and understand.
            1. Normal ok
              Normal ok 1 December 2020 10: 17
              -2
              Quote: Arpad
              Quote: Thrall
              There are a few oddities:
              - The security car in front of the assassination site rushes forward
              - A scientist, having heard the sound of bullets hitting the body of an armored Nissan-Tiano, for some reason gets out of the car and gets 3 bullets.
              - In the nearest hospital, the lights are turned off, so the wounded are being taken to a distant one.

              well nobody knows the truth yet.
              And there is only one strangeness.
              In the center of Tehran, a specially guarded object was destroyed (the general of the IRGC and the leader of the nuclear program).
              There are no traces.
              No one is caught.
              At the same time, Iran reports
              Iran: we knew about the preparation of the assassination attempt on Fakhrizada ... spoke about the awareness of the authorities about the impending assassination attempt on Fakhrizada

              here and understand.

              In Iran, there has been an internal squabble between power groups for many years. Most likely from here and legs grow.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 1 December 2020 10: 39
        0
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Killing scientists is not good ...

        Imagine that you are in 1943, and you are given the chance to dunk ... well, say, Wernher von Braun. Just a "peaceful" rocket propulsion researcher. Will you refuse?
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 1 December 2020 11: 31
          +3
          give a chance to dunk ... well, say, Wernher von Braun.
          The Americans refused, although he was an SS Sturmbannfuehrer and according to eyewitnesses (he himself denied everything) he really liked it.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 1 December 2020 21: 45
            0
            Quote: Trapp1st
            give a chance to dunk ... well, say, Wernher von Braun.
            The Americans refused, although he was an SS Sturmbannfuehrer and according to eyewitnesses (he himself denied everything) he really liked it.

            It was not by chance that I indicated 1943 as the starting point. In 1945, von Braun could no longer cause any harm to anyone, but after that he brought considerable benefits. And not only him. Is it okay that Schmeisser helped Kalashnikov with the design of the store? But if you count, then the Schmeisser shooter killed much more people than all the von Braun missiles put together.
            And again, von Braun was just a Sturmbannfuehrer, i.e. major, translated into army ranks, and the Persian general - feel the difference.
    2. midivan
      midivan 1 December 2020 07: 18
      +4
      Quote: Magic Archer
      ... And by the way, action films also have good ideas.

      In this case (the book "The Jackal") and the film are a very bad idea, they wound up and piled up so that after the book it was disgusting to watch ... The book is many times more interesting ... am
    3. Fungus
      Fungus 1 December 2020 07: 57
      +4
      The Mossad is good against scientists. They do not fight against terrorists. Israel never bombs terrorists. Only those who are at war with terrorists.
      1. Ura Orlov
        Ura Orlov 1 December 2020 08: 20
        -4
        So terrorists are an intelligence tool. I watched the film "State Councilor" everything is shown, especially "BG".
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 1 December 2020 11: 04
          -1
          So terrorists are an intelligence tool.
          In this case, intelligence is more terrorists than intelligence.
      2. Azimuth
        Azimuth 1 December 2020 10: 34
        -7
        Israel is also at war with terrorists, and quite successfully. The only question is, isn't Israel itself the cause of this very terrorism ...
        The transition from a policy of ensuring control of a number of territories through occupation for the sake of security, to a policy of essentially expansion, is fraught with the fact that this whole story will never end. If Iran leaves the arena, there will be another source and sponsor of terrorism.
        At one time, Malta was spoken of as the unsinkable aircraft carrier of the British, now Israel has become the unsinkable aircraft carrier of the United States, but what cannot be sunk, they will try to destroy all the time. Until the UN resolutions on a Jewish and Arab state are fulfilled, there will be no peace and Israel will remain essentially a military base under siege. All these "successes" of the last year and the establishment of diplomatic relations with a number of Arab states do not fundamentally ensure the security of the Jewish state and do not solve the problem and the cause of terrorism.

        Well, let me remind you - our partisans were also viewed in a number of cases as actions outside the laws of war, that is, as terrorists. We regard the same explosions of the occupiers in the cinema as a feat, and the Germans talked about violations of the laws of war and believed that their SS punishers were conducting, in today's language, a "counter-terrorist operation" , I mean the Palestinians. That is, as always, everyone has their own truth, and the law is like a pivot, where you turn, it went there.

        In addition, let me remind you of religion - Muslims are monotheists and recognize all prophets, including Jesus Christ, they do not consider him the son of God, like a number of early Christian movements, the Jews are also monotheists and recognize all prophets BEFORE Jesus Christ, we are Christians between them in the chain of monotheism, recognizing Christ, but not recognizing Mohammed. So, sorry for the excursion, Muslims, like us, believe in the Second Coming of Christ, and believe in the battle before the Day of Judgment, and there will be this battle with ... the Israeli army, including, more precisely, the army of the Jews.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 1 December 2020 20: 20
          -1
          Quote: Azimuth
          If Iran leaves the arena, there will be another source and sponsor of terrorism.

          That you have recognized Iran sponsor of terrorism, this is already a promotion.
          When Iran leaves the arena, who will take its place in your scenario, today there are no candidates for this place.
          Quote: Azimuth
          Until the UN resolutions on a Jewish and Arab state are implemented, there will be no peace

          In 2005 Israel withdrew the entire Jewish population and once again ALL leaving, at the request of the International Bank, all the land on which a magnificent harvest was grown, so that the Arabs could continue to use these lands. And they use them to launch rockets at Israeli citizens.
          They do not want to develop their territory free of Jews, so they are unhappy, such as you feel sorry for them, but you don’t give money, but there are those who give the last, that would die in their place,
          And are you suggesting that Israel will make that mistake again?
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 2 December 2020 14: 32
            -1
            And they use them to launch rockets at Israeli citizens.
            Can I tell you how terrorists from the IDF launch rockets at citizens of other countries, for example, from Lebanese airspace?
        2. Roman1970_1
          Roman1970_1 2 December 2020 15: 36
          0
          So, sorry for the excursion, Muslims, like us, believe in the Second Coming of Christ, and believe in the battle before the Day of Judgment, and there will be this battle with ... the Israeli army, including, more precisely, the army of the Jews.


          Delirium is rare. Why should Muslims believe in the second coming?
          Talk to a believing Muslim and ask or read the literature yourself. Prophets are not gods, they do not return
    4. Civil
      Civil 1 December 2020 08: 04
      +12
      Not a word of indignation in the Western press, but how Alyosha choked on tea and vodka. the conference was already assembled ...
    5. Ura Orlov
      Ura Orlov 1 December 2020 08: 15
      -8
      I suspect the FSB and CIA are branches of the Mossad.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 1 December 2020 08: 37
        +3

        Ura Orlov (Ura)
        Today, 08: 15

        -3
        I suspect the FSB and CIA are branches of the Mossad.
        I couldn't think of anything smarter fool
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 1 December 2020 09: 08
          +2
          Yes, there is nowhere further ... bully
    6. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 1 December 2020 08: 47
      +4
      If such a person is shot like this in broad daylight, then this is already the shoals of security and counterintelligence ... especially the fifth in a row. And on its territory.
    7. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 December 2020 09: 13
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And by the way, action films also have good ideas.

  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 December 2020 07: 15
    +2
    Here the main thing for the Persians to draw the necessary conclusions, and first of all to take care of the protection of scientists, to begin with. And then we ourselves also begin to eliminate the liquidators of the country that killed their scientist.
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson 1 December 2020 07: 16
      -1
      as well as begin to eliminate the scientists and engineers of the country that began to eliminate the scientists of Iran.
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 1 December 2020 09: 46
        +3
        Quote: Dodikson
        as well as begin to eliminate the scientists and engineers of the country that began to eliminate the scientists of Iran.

        Do you know a lot of Israeli scientists? Iran is about the same number of people to destroy? You compared the Mossad to the intelligence of Iran, it's like comparing a boxer to a schoolboy. Well, even if we assume that Iran knows some important scientist there and he was even able to outplay the Mossad and kill the scientist, what will this lead to, to the fact that Israel cannot create an atomic bomb? so they have it
        1. Dodikson
          Dodikson 1 December 2020 15: 30
          -6
          can blame someone easier, here the theme is that if Israel's engineers and scientists, not even the first magnitude, die, they will think about killing someone in Iran next time.
          zup for zup, voice for voice.
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 1 December 2020 18: 23
            +1
            Quote: Dodikson
            can blame someone easier, here the theme is that if Israel's engineers and scientists, not even the first magnitude, die, they will think about killing someone in Iran next time.
            zup for zup, voice for voice.

            They will not hesitate. Israel will arrange a war with them, if necessary, and will apply. He will never allow the appearance of Yao among the Persians or Arabs and will not be left with anything for this, and even more so before the engineer from the construction site of the killed Persian
            1. Dodikson
              Dodikson 1 December 2020 19: 38
              -3
              He will not use nuclear weapons, at least first, since there is no obvious threat.
              and the deaths of their scientists will make them ponder in search of other measures.
              they can drop the bonbu on research centers, but not nuclear weapons.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 07: 24
      +3
      The main thing here is for the Persians to draw the necessary conclusions, and first of all to take care of the protection of scientists

      Six Iranian physicists were killed ... Fakhrizadeh is already the seventh in a row ... the Persians are drawing conclusions for a long time.
      It is high time to organize the Iranian SMERSH and ask from the employees in full. hi
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 1 December 2020 08: 47
        +5
        Well, they are about the same anti-aircraft gunners ...
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 1 December 2020 09: 15
        -1
        They need to learn from the same Mossad, if we recall the terrorist attack during the Olympic Games in Munich in 1972, committed by members of the Palestinian terrorist organization Black September, which killed 17 people, and what the Israelis then did with these terrorists, using their own method ...
        1. Arpad
          Arpad 1 December 2020 09: 30
          +1
          Quote: Sea Cat
          They need to learn from the same Mossad,

          I'm sure they're trying. but you can see request
  3. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 1 December 2020 07: 17
    +2
    The American press says that Iran has not yet shown any "satellite-guided installation" or its fragments. In this regard, it is assumed that by their statements the Iranian special services are trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for the fact that Fakhrizade's route was not checked and turned out to be fatal for the nuclear physicist. It is also indicated that in any case, in circles close to the scientist Fakhrizada, there are people who are well aware of his plans, including travel routes.

    I would not be surprised if the US media reports on the suicide of another Iranian nuclear physicist, in which the "peaceful" Israel is not thoroughly accused.
  4. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 1 December 2020 07: 25
    +3
    The Persians must remember and adopt the experience of Beria: all intelligent scientists in a closed sharaga under increased protection.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 1 December 2020 07: 34
      +5
      I gathered you Iranian scientists under one roof for a whole year? laughing
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 07: 51
      +7
      The Persians must remember and adopt the experience of Beria: all intelligent scientists in a closed sharaga under increased protection.

      So that then the Jews with one blow from the F-35 destroyed them all or something ... a bad idea. what
      Iran for the Mossad has become like a gateway ... they calmly do whatever they want there ... we must start with this ... first, the Mossad and the United States must be liquidated there and all accomplices must be sent to the uranium mines.
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 1 December 2020 08: 05
        -4
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        first eliminate residency

        Did you write about them?
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 08: 13
          +4
          Did you write about them?
          What are you smile
          I mean this gentleman ... and his subordinates in Iran.

          And about this lady and her subordinates in Iran. hi
          Beautiful Gina Haspel ...)))

        2. aszzz888
          aszzz888 1 December 2020 08: 39
          +3

          Vitaly gusin (Vitaly Gusin)
          Today, 08: 05
          Did you write about them?
          Feycomet for a walk! laughing tongue lol
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 08: 53
            +2
            Feycomet for a walk!

            Photos from passports. smile
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 1 December 2020 08: 58
              0
              Lech from Android. (Lech from Android)
              Today, 08: 53

              +1
              Feycomet for a walk!

              Photos from passports. smile
              No one doubts these facts, except the bleed ...
              faceted. At least write them in the eyes, everything is the same dew. wink
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 1 December 2020 08: 18
        -10%
        Don't you confuse countries by chance? There, in Iran, for an inappropriate spoken word for Israel, you can lose your head. there are enough of their babakhs with pribabakh. Maybe this scientist blurted out something wrong, let's say about an artificial sun, this is quite enough, since only Allah can create the sun. Last year, a 14-year-old girl was beheaded. I blurted out something wrong.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 08: 27
          +8
          Maybe this scientist blurted out something wrong,

          Why would the Iranians kill the goose that lays the golden eggs ... your version is untenable ... the more the Jews claim that he is a member of the IRGC in a decent rank ... it is illogical.
          In the United States and Europe, a spoken word about LGBT people can be deprived of their freedom for inadvertently.
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 1 December 2020 08: 39
            -5
            For a fanatic, it doesn't matter who lays what eggs. remember egypt. when the Muslim brothers who came to power were preparing to blow up the pyramids, the eggs were more than golden. There were people and threw them off.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 08: 44
              -1
              For a fanatic, it doesn't matter who lays what eggs.
              Do you seriously believe that the Ayatollahs of Iran are fanatics?
              This, in principle, cannot be ... otherwise Iran would have been destroyed long ago as well as the Igil fanatics.
              Rather, on the contrary, the Ayatollahs are well aware of what opportunities Iran has and what nuclear weapons are ... all statements about Israel are nothing more than a game for the audience ... Israel also understands this.
              All of Israel's actions on Iran are just an attempt to contain the development of Iran ... but a futile attempt.
              1. Arpad
                Arpad 1 December 2020 08: 56
                +2
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Do you seriously believe that the Ayatollahs of Iran are fanatics?

                of course fanatics
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                This, in principle, cannot be ... otherwise Iran would have been destroyed long ago as well as the Igil fanatics.

                what's the connection
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Rather, on the contrary, the Ayatollahs are well aware of what opportunities Iran has and what nuclear weapons are ... all statements about Israel are nothing more than a game for the audience ...

                come on, there are enrichment plants. there is a secret nuclear program. delivery means are being developed, etc., etc. - but you can't see everything?
                are you blind
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                All of Israel's actions on Iran are just an attempt to contain the development of Iran ... but a futile attempt.

                development in which direction?
                1. Lech from Android.
                  Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 09: 12
                  +1
                  of course fanatics

                  Prove ...
                  what's the connection

                  Simple ... a fanatic goes to kill in other countries for the sake of his convictions ... what are you Israelis and are doing in Syria and Iran convincing yourself that the Iranians and Syrians are fanatics.
                  Can't you see everything?
                  are you blind

                  Can not see...
                  Pakistan has nuclear weapons ... there are also enough fanatics there, so what?
                  development in which direction?

                  Parity ... why Israel can have 200 nuclear weapons while Iran cannot? hi
                  1. Arpad
                    Arpad 1 December 2020 10: 30
                    +3
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Prove ...

                    well, let's start with what the republic is called - Islamic, then
                    For 32-year-old Iranian, international arbiter Shohre Bayat, the Women's World Chess Championship was supposed to be an important event in her career.

                    For the first time in the world championship, she plays the role of the chief judge.

                    However, this event was overshadowed by discussions in the Iranian media of the photos of Shokhra Bayat at the tournament in Shanghai. where she is depicted with her head uncovered, which is forbidden for women in her country.

                    Shohre Bayat says she now fears for her safety. If she returns to Iran, she could be detained for violating the Islamic dress code for women.

                    The three women were arrested in April after a video was posted of them handing out flowers in the Tehran subway on March 8 in honor of International Women's Day. They were accused of actions that undermine national security, anti-state propaganda and encouragement of "moral corruption and prostitution."

                    The activists - themselves bareheaded - peacefully protested against laws requiring women to wear the hijab, and advocated for a woman's right to decide what to wear.

                    After being detained, the women reportedly "disappeared" for several weeks, had no lawyers during the initial stages of the investigation, and at trial denied lawyers the right to speak on behalf of their clients. As a result, one of them was sentenced to 23 and a half years in prison, and the other two - to 16

                    Fornication (zina-e-mohsen) is punished with 100 lashes for unmarried people and death for the fourth offense... This is punishable by death by hammering, for married people and in all cases of incest. If an unmarried non-Muslim man engages in sexual relations with a Muslim woman, the non-Muslim man will be executed. It takes four witnesses (not two witnesses) to prove adultery, the person must confess four times, or he must be convicted with the knowledge of the judge (using certain circumstantial evidence). If the person confesses and "repents" twice, or if the victim's family forgives the adulterer, the judge may instead issue a Tazir sentence of 99 lashes or jail time. Convictions and executions for this crime are extremely rare, usually only imposed on death and even then. Between 1979 and 40, 76–XNUMX executions for adultery have been recorded Death penalty in Iran - https://ru.qaz.wiki/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran

                    questions?
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Simple ... a fanatic goes to kill in other countries for the sake of his convictions ... what are you Israelis doing in Syria and Iran

                    we have no differences of opinion with Iran and Syria, we are destroying the military leaders of the country which is at war with us.
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    convincing myself that the Iranians and Syrians are fanatics.

                    Iranians and Syrians are not fanatics. The Syrians, even more so, and the regime in Syria is not theocrtic, unlike Iran, but Iran as a country and its religion does not bother us in any way. Let him leave us alone and live as he wants.
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Pakistan has nuclear weapons ... there are also enough fanatics there, so what?

                    additional confirmation, Pakistan does not threaten us with anything and let it have what it wants and how it wants. This does not concern us, with Iran it would be the same story, but they want to destroy us - therefore they get what they get
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Parity ... why Israel can have 200 nuclear weapons while Iran cannot?

                    The only difference is that we do not threaten Iran and we don't care about Iran. The moment they change politics and leave us alone, even if they have at least 100000 Ya. Bombs, this is no longer our problem.
              2. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 1 December 2020 09: 12
                +5
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                All of Israel's actions on Iran are just an attempt to contain the development of Iran ... but a futile attempt.

                strangely, until 79, Israel cooperated with Iran, developed, one might say, and then suddenly began to "restrain". what is it for?

                I bet two shekels on the fact that when not fanatics began to promise to destroy Israel, they believed them. in sincerity of intentions anyway.

                I personally advise you to also take people who threaten to kill you seriously
                maybe they are working for the public, or maybe the roof has gone, they will revolt and send them sailing along the Styx River.
                1. Lech from Android.
                  Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 09: 51
                  +2
                  I bet two shekels on the fact that when not fanatics began to promise to destroy Israel, they believed them. in sincerity of intentions anyway.

                  And I bet two rubles ... that these are empty threats ... if Israel has nuclear weapons.
                  Your advice is certainly good ... but in life it often happens when one neighbor after drinking vodka begins to threaten with murder ... and in the morning he wakes up for a long time apologizes. hi
                  Well, I can't beat him after that.
                  1. Arpad
                    Arpad 1 December 2020 10: 41
                    +2
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    And I bet two rubles ..

                    cheaper - the shekel is 20 times more weighty.
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    that these are empty threats.

                    well, that's why the rate is such, you don't know anything
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Your advice is certainly good ... but in life it often happens when one neighbor after drinking vodka begins to threaten with murder ... and in the morning, waking up for a long time apologizes

                    And the second neighbor is not.
                    does not apologize
                    how many in Russia per year die from premeditated murders on a domestic basis?
                    Or is the same statistics new?
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    Well, I can't beat him after that.

                    I don’t know what to say, your reasoning is at the level of kindergarten.
                    Although in kindergarten they reason more sensibly.
                  2. Revolver
                    Revolver 1 December 2020 10: 46
                    +3
                    Quote: Lech from Android.
                    in life it often happens when one neighbor, having drunk vodka, begins to threaten with murder ... and in the morning he wakes up for a long time apologizes.

                    The Persians have not been able to sleep for 40 years, and they constantly shout "I'll get it!"
    3. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 1 December 2020 09: 31
      +1
      Then kill them all with one rocket?
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 09: 52
        0
        Then kill them all with one rocket?
        So far, only the great Kim has it ... big but vigorous.
  5. Ura Orlov
    Ura Orlov 1 December 2020 08: 13
    -9
    Well, if Israel can use space weapons, then the Russian Federation and the United States will also kill competitors.
    1. KBaHT_BpeMeHu
      KBaHT_BpeMeHu 1 December 2020 11: 36
      -1
      Well, if Israel can use space weapons, then the Russian Federation and the United States will also kill competitors.
      I ask you not to equate the terrorist sects MASAD and IDF with the Russian army and special services.
      1. Arpad
        Arpad 1 December 2020 11: 38
        +4
        Quote: KBaHT_BpeMeHu
        I ask you not to equate terrorist sects MASAD and IDF

        like Jehovah's Witnesses?

        Quote: KBaHT_BpeMeHu
        with the Russian army and special services.

      2. Ura Orlov
        Ura Orlov 4 December 2020 05: 47
        0
        Isn't the FSB a branch of Masad, because billions of rubles and dollars go to the West, and the FSB sits and admires this disgrace, they need to show the film "Gold for the Dictatorship of the Proletariat" or "One's among strangers, a stranger among friends", or maybe in the FSB are some Jews sitting?
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 1 December 2020 08: 35
    +6
    world terrorism and impunity in one bottle are characteristic of the United States and Israel ... and this is not only the elimination of physicists ... generals ... this is essentially the state policy of these countries ... and then they are surprised at the responses that sometimes arrive at the addresses ...
    1. Arpad
      Arpad 1 December 2020 08: 46
      +2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      and then they are surprised at the answers that sometimes arrive at the addresses ...

      And why did you decide that they are surprised.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 1 December 2020 10: 49
      0
      Quote: silberwolf88
      are surprised at the answers sometimes arriving at addresses

      Nichrome hasn't arrived at the addresses yet. Perhaps only the explosion of the Jewish cultural center in Argentina, but this center has never been involved in the liquidation of learned generals.
      1. Threaded screw
        Threaded screw 1 December 2020 11: 40
        -1
        Nichrome hasn't arrived at the addresses yet. Perhaps only the explosion of the Jewish cultural center in Argentina, but this center has never been involved in the liquidation of learned generals.
        Well, if these scientists were not involved in the explosion of the Jewish cultural center in Argentina, then it also flew to the wrong address, which means everything is within logic.
        1. Arpad
          Arpad 1 December 2020 11: 45
          0
          Quote: Threaded screw
          Нif these scientists were not involved in the explosion of the Jewish cultural center in Argentina, it also flew to the wrong address, which means everything is within logic.

          he was a brigadier general of the IRGC - not an army. and the IRGC
          Mohsen Fakhrizadeh Mahabadi is an Iranian physicist. Islamic Revolutionary Guard Officer and professor of physics at Imam Hussein University in Tehran. According to the UN Security Council, Fakhrizadeh was a senior researcher at the Iranian Ministry of Defense and the Iranian Armed Forces and head of the Physical Research Center.
          1. Threaded screw
            Threaded screw 1 December 2020 11: 54
            -1
            he was a brigadier general of the IRGC - not an army. and the IRGC
            So what? There was no IDF or Mossad serving in the cultural center? Some kind of one-sided logic you have.
            1. Arpad
              Arpad 1 December 2020 11: 56
              +2
              Quote: Threaded screw
              So what? There was no IDF or Mossad serving in the cultural center?

              What were?
              give a name. a place . rank.
              is it okay that the cultural center was in Buienos Aires?
              1. Threaded screw
                Threaded screw 1 December 2020 11: 57
                -4
                What were? give a name. a place . rank.
                Bring that you were not, and prove that no one planned ... or would not ... request
                1. Arpad
                  Arpad 1 December 2020 16: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Threaded Screw
                  What were? give a name. a place . rank.
                  Bring that you were not, and prove that no one planned ... or would not ... request

                  understandably, baked.
  7. Abdula
    Abdula 1 December 2020 08: 38
    -4
    Quote: Ura Orlov
    I suspect the FSB and CIA are branches of the Mossad.
    the FSB does not act like an ax in the old man HOW they fight by the old man all over the world poison people YES IT'S ONLY NORMALLY TO PURPOSE WELL, IT DOESN'T LIKE IT, and Azerbaijan showed you how to fight in the 21st century and not stupidly drop bombs on Si , and then they showed you a special operation of the 21st century, this is not a cathedral in England to look at
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 1 December 2020 08: 49
      0
      The chemists are not the same, and the chemistry has disappeared.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 08: 59
      +4
      Abdullah ... the story with the Novice is a rough work of the British special services, MI6's ears stick out from all sides ... Azerbaijan only showed the slovenliness of the Armenians who did not prepare for the war in time.
      As for the babakhs in Syria ... we will destroy them there by all available means.
      Special operation in Iran smile showed the holes in the organization of the Iranian special services ... the Jews perfectly enter and leave these holes ... enter and leave wonderfully ... the Persians, as first-graders, failing students, cannot learn the lesson the first time.
      1. Arpad
        Arpad 1 December 2020 09: 19
        +1
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Abdullah ... the Rookie story is rough work by the British intelligence services, MI6 ears sticking out from all sides

        is not a fact. Where did they disappear Petrov and Bashirov?
        For some reason, the media do not surf to denounce MI6. but somehow suspiciously they kicked in the air and the ubiquitous zhurnalyugi cannot find this sweet couple.
        And it seems like ordinary citizens are true Heroes of Russia.

        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Azerbaijan only showed the slovenliness of the Armenians who did not prepare for the war in time.

        Is that all that showed? And in my opinion he showed the war of the 21st century and what was taught in the akdemias in the 20th

        Quote: Lech from Android.
        As for the babakhs in Syria ... we will destroy them there by all available means.

        so it seemed to soak everyone. Shoigu reported 3 times
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Persians as first-graders-poor students can not learn the lesson the first time.

        they can learn, they cannot do anything.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 09: 27
          +1
          is not a fact. Where did they disappear Petrov and Bashirov?

          Are not missing ... you want to find them. smile
          The media do not discuss MI6 because they are afraid that Richard Moore will order all editors to hound the Novice ... all the same, after all, he will blame everything on the Russians.
          If the Armenians do not have echeloned air defense, it is possible to show the war of the 21st century ... to beat an unarmed one is so convenient ... the 21st century. smile
          Shoigu and for the 4th time will report ... you there are more of their barmaley in Syria in heaps ... it's more convenient to drop bombs on them. hi
          Well, the Persians until they learn the basics of operational-search work on the agents of Jews and Americans will have to endure for some time.
          1. Arpad
            Arpad 1 December 2020 10: 43
            0
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Are not missing ... you want to find them

            help, looking for - did not find.
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            MI6 media do not discuss because they are afraid

            who cares? first channel . ORT .TRP?
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            If the Armenians do not have echeloned air defense, it is possible to show the war of the 21st century ... it is so convenient to beat an unarmed person ... the 21st century

            Well, first of all, no one has it, but the echeloned one is carried out at a time.
        2. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 1 December 2020 09: 56
          -2
          Quote: Arpad
          And it seems like ordinary citizens are true Heroes of Russia.

          They kind of confessed to being gay.
          1. Arpad
            Arpad 1 December 2020 10: 46
            0
            Quote: andreykolesov123
            Quote: Arpad
            And it seems like ordinary citizens are true Heroes of Russia.

            They kind of confessed to being gay.

            well yes, like in the old joke
            There is a lecture at the university. The professor talks about the Spartans. Well, as for the fact that, they say, the troops were on campaigns for years and this united the soldiers so much that, as a rule, they fell in love with each other. And this was encouraged, for the Spartan, who had lost a friend and lover in one person, was merciless to the enemy and avenged the murdered. And then one point, a tiny little student giggles:
            - So the Spartans were fagots?
            The professor sighed heavily, took off his glasses, looked at the upstart and said:
            -Fagots, you say? God forbid you, dear young man, to meet at least one such fagot face to face. No, my young friend, they were not, as you say, fagots! These were real BATTLE PIDARAS !!
    3. MoJloT
      MoJloT 1 December 2020 10: 56
      0
      POISONING PEOPLE
      Abdula, are you serious? Maybe you have proof?
      you were shown a special operation of the 21st century
      Where?
  8. Abdula
    Abdula 1 December 2020 09: 02
    -2
    The media reported on the murder of the commander of the IRGC in Iraq again with weapons of the 21st century with a submarine. MOSCOW, November 30 - RIA Novosti. The RT Arabic TV channel, citing Iraqi sources, reported on the murder in Iraq on the border with Syria of one of the commanders of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Muslim Shahdan.
    According to Al Arabiya TV channel, Shahdan drove through the Al-Qaim checkpoint the night before, after which a drone hit his car. In addition to the commander of the IRGC, three accompanying persons were also killed.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 09: 31
      0
      Sources of the TV channel "Al-Mayadin" deny this information.

      Who should I believe you or them?
      Show proof ... photo, video, or official statement from the IRGC. hi
      1. Abdula
        Abdula 1 December 2020 09: 36
        -2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Sources of the TV channel "Al-Mayadin" deny this information.

        Who should I believe you or them?
        Show proof ... photo, video, or official statement from the IRGC. hi
        RIO NEWS BELIEVE THEM ??? https://yandex.ru/turbo/ria.ru/s/20201130/ubiystvo-1587061282.html
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 09: 39
          +1
          RIO NEWS BELIEVE THEM ??? https://yandex.ru/turbo/ria.ru/s/20201130/ubiystvo-1587061282.html

          I’m a little kid or something ... take the bazaar news at its word. They will show the indisputable evidence then and we'll see.
          1. Arpad
            Arpad 1 December 2020 11: 26
            +1
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            I’m a little kid or something ... take the bazaar news at its word. They will show the indisputable evidence then and we'll see.

            oh, so why are you sure that this physicist was drenched by Israel?
            Why, let's say, neither the States or Saudi.?
            give proof, draw a couple of formulas
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 12: 44
              +1
              Who benefits from the death of a physicist? Who can organize an attack so brazenly? Saudis? Do not make me laugh. Americans? Maybe ... But the Americans kill more often the military than the scientists, Israel remains, which makes surprised eyes and blames the Iranians themselves, they say the offended Iranian bought a large-caliber machine-gun installation and shot the physics through a satellite ... It smells of insanity ... find? hi
              1. Arpad
                Arpad 1 December 2020 16: 26
                -1
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Who benefits from the death of a physicist?

                at least Israel, USA. Saudi Arabia
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Saudis? Do not make me laugh

                why 7
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Do not make me laugh. Americans? May be..

                Already 2 countries (at least)
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                But Americans kill more military men than scientists,

                Are they dropping their plans on your android?
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                that leaves Israel, which makes surprised eyes and blames the Iranians themselves

                we never blame anyone.
                We don't comment at all
                Learn materiel
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                they say the offended Iranian bought out of nowhere a large-caliber machine-gun mount and shot the physicist through a satellite ...

                What do we smoke?
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Smells like insanity ... do not find

                Your comment? 100% insanity.
                1. Lech from Android.
                  Lech from Android. 2 December 2020 07: 19
                  -1
                  smile The arguments are over, let's go to the individual. That's how you always have it.
        2. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 09: 40
          +1
          Abdula in the same source is the same phrase ... ah ah ah ... so who to believe? hi
          In turn, the sources of the Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen denied reports of Shahdan's murder.
          1. Arpad
            Arpad 1 December 2020 11: 58
            0
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Abdula in the same source is the same phrase ... ah ah ah ... so who to believe? hi
            In turn, the sources of the Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen denied reports of Shahdan's murder.

            of course, a TV channel affiliated with Hezbollah, after Tehran and screaming for revenge, will now tell how someone, spitting on all the bending of Iranian fingers, calmly soaked another bump.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 2 December 2020 07: 21
              0
              You might think in the media there are no TV channels that are not affiliated with Jews ... Your oligarch Gusinsky alone is worth something.
  9. Mikhail S.
    Mikhail S. 1 December 2020 09: 32
    +1
    Perhaps not everyone in Iran believes that their purpose is to destroy Israel with nuclear weapons.
    Even in the leadership. Otherwise, nuclear scientists would not die so often.
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 1 December 2020 11: 44
      +1
      Perhaps not everyone in Iran believes that their purpose is to destroy Israel.
      This is idle talk for the sake of leadership in the Islamic world, no one is going to destroy Israel, but terrorism is against Iran and these are real actions of Israel. Iran needs nuclear weapons to neutralize the threat of its own civilization.
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 1 December 2020 19: 47
        0
        Quote: Threaded screw
        This is chatter for the sake of leadership in the Islamic world, no one is going to destroy Israel


        yes, it's just cute babbling babies:
        Think they called you a tumor, promised a holy war and exile for dessert.

        Iran's spiritual leader Ali Khamenei called the state of Israel a "tumor" in the Middle East region, which must be removed with the help of the Palestinians' "holy war" - jihad. Ayatollah Khamenei made the corresponding statement on Friday, May 22, in a speech on the occasion of the so-called "Day of al-Quds", when the Arabs recall the capture of East Jerusalem by Israel during the 1967 Six Day War.

        The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, published the book "Palestine". On 416 pages, the politician and theologian sets out a phased strategy for the destruction of the State of Israel and the expulsion of Jews from their historical homeland.


        Quote: Threaded screw
        Iran needs nuclear weapons to neutralize the threat of its own civilization.

        please enlighten, who is so eager to destroy the Iranian civilization and why?
        (civilization a little loudly said)
  10. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 1 December 2020 09: 44
    +1
    what
    I studied the comments and publications on this topic of the assassination attempt, the first thought arose about staging the death of the "Object".
    Other sources claim the participation of a group of liquidators of 12 units and 2 snipers. Allegedly during a firefight with guards, the leader of the liquidator group pulled out the scientist, fired a shot, made sure of the elimination, then the group withdrew from the position without loss.
    Further, the scientist with signs of life was taken by helicopter to the hospital, where he died ?!
    A mined Nissan pickup was blown up as the first car approached. The force of the explosion was significant, the sources allegedly say. Nissan Teana has no traces of damage from an explosion, as well as small damage from fire contact.
    In addition, a group of liquidators could be in the zone of destruction from the explosion.
    The story is muddy, we won't know the truth anyway ...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 December 2020 10: 02
      +1
      The story is muddy, we won't know the truth anyway
      ... I don't see any traces of an explosion on the car. hi
  11. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 1 December 2020 11: 28
    +4
    I have spoken here more than once, but I will repeat it again.
    It would be a mistake to say that "Iran is opposed to Israel." For what reason? Israel has no territorial, material or economic claims against Iran. (in fact, like Iran to Israel.)

    Yes, Israel has publicly declared that the main and completely uncontrollable geopolitical competitor of Russia in the Middle East and North Caucasus, an economic rival of Russia on a global scale, hiding behind tales of a "peaceful atom", enriches and accumulates uranium to create nuclear weapons (IAEA confirms). At the same time, it very seriously increases its capabilities in relation to conventional weapons. Many countries have to think about this, and a number of them have already thought very well.

    Russians still naively believe that Iran is sharpening its nuclear knife at Israel. lol

    Imagine that Iran has created nuclear weapons. Who will he use it against? Against Israel?
    Ayatols drown very loudly for the "Palestinian brothers". Where will they hit with nuclear weapons? Jerusalem, where nearly 250 Arabs live? In Tel Aviv with another 000? Through the reactor in Dimona, 150 Bedouins, along with their camels, sheep and goats, will instantly go to the booths of heaven. In Israel, almost 000/100 of cities with a mixed population! And the area of ​​Israel is less than half of the Moscow region.

    The nuclear excess will surely affect Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt, turn a real piece of the Mediterranean into a radioactive swamp, so much so that Cyprus will get it.
    For what?
    Well, Israel bombed several objects of pro-Iranian militias in Siri. Well, half a dozen more sheds where they say that precision weapons were kept for Hezbollah. To start a nuclear war for this?
    Iran is by no means an Israeli problem. hi
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 1 December 2020 11: 50
      0
      It would be a mistake to say that "Iran is opposed to Israel." For what reason? Israel has no territorial, material or economic claims against Iran. (in fact, like Iran to Israel.)
      Iran claims to be the leader in the Islamic world, these statements are for it.
      Where will they hit with nuclear weapons?
      There will be no threat of the existence of Iranian civilization anywhere yet.
      Well, Israel bombed several objects of pro-Iranian militias in Siri. Iran is by no means an Israeli problem.
      Dissonance, and Israel is diligently creating a problem for itself.
      1. Arpad
        Arpad 1 December 2020 12: 04
        0
        Quote: Threaded screw
        Iran claims to be the leader in the Islamic world, these statements are for it.

        Iran will never be a leader in the Islamic world, a priori.
        Shiites cannot be leaders in the Sunni world.
        Shiites are heretics by definition and by * notions * in the Islamic world must be destroyed, and even not converted to Islam, namely, they must be destroyed in the Sunni world - a deviation from the faith is much worse than any other faith.
        Quote: Threaded screw
        There will be no threat of the existence of Iranian civilization anywhere yet.

        Nobody would have touched Iran if it had not tried to export the Iranian revolution to other Islamic countries - primarily the Gulf countries.
        Quote: Threaded screw
        Dissonance, and Israel is diligently creating a problem for itself.

        we fix the problem. Iran in Syria with one goal - a threat to Israel.
        1. Threaded screw
          Threaded screw 1 December 2020 12: 09
          -1
          Iran will never be a leader in the Islamic world
          This does not prevent him from claiming.
          Iran would not be touched by anyone if it did not try to export the Iranian revolution to other Islamic countries
          This is called a sphere of influence, which is not unique to Iran.
          Iran in Syria with one goal - a threat to Israel.
          What is this threat? And who gave you the right to interfere in the affairs of sovereign states?
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 1 December 2020 12: 52
            +3
            Quote: Threaded screw
            Iran in Syria with one goal - a threat to Israel.
            What is this threat? And who gave you the right to interfere in the affairs of sovereign states?


            Hezbollah is attempting to infiltrate southwestern Syria, while Iran is seeking to strengthen the military power of its partners. Israel fears that Syria is turning into a springboard for Iran and does not want to indifferently watch how radical Islamists strengthen their positions.

            Israel seeks to prevent Hezbollah or other Shiite groups from approaching the 1974 ceasefire line and creating an offensive infrastructure in its vicinity.
            If Hezbollah succeeds, this, according to Israel, could mean a new front against Israel and an opportunity for Hezbollah to launch attacks from areas where its Lebanese civilians will not be retaliated by Israeli forces.
            The Israeli army, as its strategists fear, will be forced to demand satisfaction in Lebanon, Damascus or Tehran at the risk of provoking a regional war.

            Israel is keen to prevent the deployment of joint forces of its rivals anywhere in Syria on a permanent basis, which Israel fears could strengthen their position in future wars, as well as their current influence in Lebanon, Jordan and the Palestinian arena. Iran is of particular concern: Israel's red lines are designed to obstruct the construction of an airport, naval port, military base, militant presence centers, or precision weapons production facilities for Hezbollah.

            Israel has already demonstrated its determination in every possible way to obstruct the construction of this kind of military infrastructure. It seems that Russia is generally satisfied with this development of events, and neither Iran nor Syria can stop this.
          2. Arpad
            Arpad 1 December 2020 16: 30
            +1
            Quote: Threaded screw
            This does not prevent him from claiming.

            Well, here he is trying - now he is enemy number one in the Arb world
            Quote: Threaded screw
            This is called a sphere of influence, which is not unique to Iran.

            so what's the surprise that he shoots?
            request
            or should someone let him calmly enter his house and establish orders?
            Quote: Threaded screw
            What is this threat? And who gave you the right to interfere in the affairs of sovereign states?

            What class are you in?
            Or just mow under the poor student?
            although one tni interferes with the other. laughing
  12. maxim k.
    maxim k. 2 December 2020 05: 26
    -1
    And then, after 50 years, it turns out that this is all true ...
  13. Abdula
    Abdula 2 December 2020 09: 33
    -1
    NYT: in Tehran, one of the leaders of al-Qaeda *, who was passed off as another person in Iran, was eliminated Israeli agents at the request of the United States eliminated in Tehran one of the organizers of the terrorist attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998, Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, also known as pseudonym Abu Muhammad al-Masri, writes The New York Times, citing intelligence officials. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/world/middleeast/al-masri-abdullah-qaeda-dead.html
  14. Don't See Evil
    Don't See Evil 2 December 2020 23: 28
    0
    Material from Wikipedia: "In 1998, the Pylev brothers, in connection with the distribution of business income, had a conflict with the president of the Russian Gold company Alexander Tarantsev. Sherstobitov watched the businessman for almost four months and realized that he, having very professional security, practically Sherstobitov built a remote-controlled device with a Kalashnikov assault rifle in the VAZ-2104. The machine was installed at the exit from the office of "Russian Gold." 2 hours later, the guard of "Russian Gold" was killed by it, two bystanders were injured. Tarantsev survived. " Once I watched an interview with Sherstobitov (Lyosha is a Soldier, the killer of the Orekhovskaya and Medvedkovskaya OPGs), he himself told reporters in detail about this, already being convicted.