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The landing module of the Chinese apparatus "Chang'e-5" began preparations for landing

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The landing module of the Chinese apparatus "Chang'e-5" began preparations for landing

The landing module of the Chinese automatic vehicle "Chang'e-5" separated from the block remaining in orbit and began preparations for a lunar landing. This was reported by the National Space Administration of China (CNSA).


According to the report, "Chang'e-5" on Saturday, November 28, began deceleration, turning on the brake motors 400 kilometers from the surface of the moon. On Sunday, November 29, after entering a circular lunar orbit with an altitude of about 200 km, the station separated the lander from the orbital block. Next, the appropriate moment for landing will be determined, after which the module will land. The orbital block will continue to orbit the Moon, awaiting docking with the reentry vehicle.

The Chang'e-5 flight control team on November 30, in accordance with the plan, successfully separated the block of the landing and takeoff modules from the orbital module complex and the reentry vehicle

- said in a message from CNSA.

As previously reported, the module will land in the Ocean of Storms in the western part of the visible side of the Moon, after which it will drill and collect about 2 kilograms of lunar soil. On the surface of a natural satellite of the Earth, the device will spend two lunar days, after which it will set off on its way back. The landing of the descent vehicle with the capsule is scheduled for December 15-16 in northern China in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 30 November 2020 10: 02
    0
    ... to landing on the lunar surface.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 30 November 2020 10: 07
      +16
      Well done Chinese people accurately and confidently carry out their tasks. Are we going to be in the role of extras now?
      1. Leeds
        Leeds 30 November 2020 10: 16
        +2
        Quote: Stroporez
        Well done Chinese people accurately and confidently carry out their tasks. Are we going to be in the role of extras now?

        No, let's work with the formula: "red price" + credits = "Kruzak" + prestige.
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 30 November 2020 12: 15
          0
          There is no point in repeating the work of the Chinese, this is a long-passed stage for us (plus the Lunokhod). It is assumed that the Roskosmos team will land at the pole, which is technically more difficult and gives a chance to explore ice reserves. I would like everything to work out, but will it work out? Somehow the long-term lack of results from Roscosmos does not give reason for optimism ...
      2. iouris
        iouris 30 November 2020 10: 24
        -1
        The question must be posed as follows: will we? But no one will answer.
      3. slipped
        slipped 30 November 2020 10: 46
        -5
        Quote: Stroporez
        Well done Chinese people accurately and confidently carry out their tasks. Are we going to be in the role of extras now?


        We have our own program for studying the moon. And it is being carried out very successfully. Launch of the next station according to the plan in October next year.
        1. Temples
          Temples 30 November 2020 11: 16
          +10
          Quote: slipped
          We have our own program for studying the moon. Moreover very successful.

          Either you are Chinese. winked
          Are you a lunatic wassat

          And here in Russia everything is still on paper.

          Now the ambitious program of the Russian government - as a result, everything will be transferred from paper to digital. wassat
          1. slipped
            slipped 30 November 2020 11: 20
            -6
            Quote: Temples
            Quote: slipped
            We have our own program for studying the moon. Moreover very successful.

            Either you are Chinese. winked
            Are you a lunatic wassat


            Dunno, I can remind you that for more than 10 years the Russian neutron detector LEND has been operating on board NASA's lunar satellite LRO. Over the past decade of observations, the device, together with the LRO, made more than 12400 orbits around the Moon and transmitted more than 110 gigabytes of scientific measurement data to Earth. Based on the processing of the measurement data of the LEND instrument, maps of the mass fraction of water in the lunar matter were constructed.
            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 30 November 2020 11: 32
              +15
              What does one unit have to do with RN? Orbital or takeoff module? A super-complicated Chinese lunar mission in general?
              Soon we will show off nuts and bolts? Or are they already Chinese too?
              1. slipped
                slipped 30 November 2020 11: 41
                -3
                Quote: Cosm22
                What does one unit have to do with RN? Orbital or takeoff module? A super-complicated Chinese lunar mission in general?
                Soon we will show off nuts and bolts? Or are they already Chinese too?


                You are probably not reading carefully. I will repeat to you personally - Russia has its own Lunar program. And the LAND device is its component.

                We consistently solve problems on the Moon:

                The first step is to map the location of the water ice
                The second step is sending to the place of concentration of this ice at the South Pole of the Moon in the crater of the Boguslavsky space landing vehicle "Luna-25" on October 1, 2021. Landing survey, including drilling. the beginning of the creation of the Lunar polygon.
                The third step is the dispatch of the Luna-26 orbiter on November 13, 2024 to coordinate general work at the test site.
                The fourth step is the dispatch of the Luna-27 lander in 2025.
                1. Temples
                  Temples 30 November 2020 12: 07
                  +9
                  Quote: slipped
                  Dunno, I can remind you that for more than 10 years the Russian neutron detector LEND has been operating on board the NASA lunar satellite

                  I quote his own words to the know-it-all:
                  "... working aboard NASA's lunar satellite ...."
                  It's like being happy for your wife sleeping with a wealthy neighbor.

                  It is also possible, by cunning manipulations, to fasten the bolt of the disgusting turner in Mytishchi to the NASA spacecraft.
                  To present the Order of Lenin for this operation to a colonel of foreign intelligence.
                  And announce the conquest of space!
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 30 November 2020 12: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: Temples

                    I quote his own words to the know-it-all:
                    "... working aboard NASA's lunar satellite ...."


                    Consider him just a cab. laughing

                    And the device itself is quite interesting and does not look like a "bolt welded by a turner"

        2. Cosm22
          Cosm22 30 November 2020 11: 24
          +13
          Your program for studying the moon cannot even be placed close to the Chinese one.
          The Luna-25 project (which we are still talking about in the future tense, in contrast to Chang'e-5) is a pitiful resemblance even in comparison with the Soviet Luna-16,20,24 projects.
          Luna-25 does not provide for the docking of the take-off module with the orbital module, or even the direct return of the lander.
          1. slipped
            slipped 30 November 2020 11: 28
            -9
            Quote: Cosm22
            Your program for studying the moon cannot even be placed close to the Chinese one.


            So you don't know our lunar exploration program. laughing

            Quote: Cosm22
            The Luna-25 project is a pitiful resemblance even to the Soviet Luna-16,20,24 projects.


            There is no "Project Luna-25". There is the Russian Lunar Program, until 2025 it includes the launch of three stations to the Moon. Landing Luna-25 and Luna-27 and orbiting Luna-26.

            Quote: Cosm22
            Luna-25 does not provide for the docking of the take-off module with the orbital module, or even the direct return of the lander.


            So this station is not required. The soil will be studied remotely at the landing site.
            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 30 November 2020 11: 40
              +11
              I don't need your excuses in Rogozin's style. I have thoroughly studied the Russian lunar program and can give 100 points ahead in this matter. And there is no need to list the indexes "26-27", since the talk was initially about 2021.
              And the soil will be (if it still is, as this future time has gotten!) Be studied remotely because of the IMPOSSIBILITY to deliver it to Earth.
              That's the whole reason. Today Russia does not have such opportunities and technologies. Therefore, you have to puff out your cheeks and speak with an important air about some kind of distance.
              1. slipped
                slipped 30 November 2020 11: 44
                -5
                Quote: Cosm22
                I don't need your excuses in Rogozin's style.


                This is a statement of fact.

                Quote: Cosm22
                I have thoroughly studied the Russian lunar program and can give 100 points ahead in this matter. And there is no need to list the indexes "26-27", since the talk was initially about 2021.


                In 2021, we have one station flying.

                Quote: Cosm22
                And the soil will be (if it still is, as this future time has gotten!) Be studied remotely because of the IMPOSSIBILITY to deliver it to Earth.


                We do not need to deliver it to Earth in the form the Chinese are delivering it now.

                Quote: Cosm22
                That's the whole reason. Today Russia does not have such opportunities and technologies. Therefore, you have to puff out your cheeks and speak with an important air about some kind of distance.


                It makes no difference how you personally assess it. There is technology. laughing
                1. Cosm22
                  Cosm22 30 November 2020 12: 01
                  +4
                  Bored with you, Mr. slipped, verbiage is a weak argument.
                  Do not consider the question immodest - are you paid here? And do you praise Russian cosmonautics on duty? It's so hard to praise something that isn't there. And it exists only in the future tense, on paper or in the heads of hurray-patriots.
                  Or maybe, so to speak, at the behest of the soul? An ardent supporter of Comrade Rogozin?
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 30 November 2020 12: 06
                    -7
                    Quote: Cosm22
                    Bored with you, Mr. slipped, verbiage is a weak argument.


                    Well, when you have nothing to say in response.

                    Quote: Cosm22
                    Do not consider the question immodest - are you paid here?


                    Who's about what, and lousy about money. This is a proverb. laughing

                    Quote: Cosm22
                    It's so hard to praise something that isn't there.


                    What is not? Are you talking about the Russian lunar program? Read above.
                    1. Cosm22
                      Cosm22 30 November 2020 12: 56
                      +7
                      What to read, may I ask?
                      Fairy tales from the series "design ... make ... launch ... blah blah blah ..."?
                      So I just read this. For there is nothing else.
                      Do not confuse the Soviet space legacy (really great for its time) with the Russian, so to speak, successes in the space field.
                      Once again: verbiage is not the best argument in an argument. And quotes from Vicky will not surprise even a fifth grader.
                      But let's finish this pointless conversation, because it already looks like a flood.
                      We'd better wait for a more appropriate topic. For example, launches "Angara-5" and "Soyuz-ST-A". Announced long ago, but postponed for some reason. Which, in general, is strange, because the weather, as you know, is not a hindrance to Russian launches, Russia does not need to wait for good weather to land the first stages of the launch vehicle due to the lack of such technology completely.
                      About money - to the wrong address. This is a reflection in the mirror. I'm not biased. Just extremely objective. If Russian starts will be successful (especially "Angara") - I will express my approval in the forefront. Like any normal person.
                2. gsev
                  gsev 2 December 2020 04: 42
                  -1
                  Quote: slipped
                  We do not need to deliver it to Earth in the form the Chinese are delivering it now.

                  The Chinese, having delivered the soil to Earth, will be able to study it in a calm atmosphere. And in the course of the study, modify or create a new method or technique for studying this soil.If we could, in addition to the lunar study of the soil, check the results of the operation of the lunar device for studying the soil on the ground with more sophisticated and accurate instruments and check the reliability and accuracy of the device sent to the moon. Otherwise, it is highly likely that we will not even be able to assess the reliability of the device launched to the moon. In addition, the Chinese demonstrated that they practically surpassed the successes of the USSR in the exploration of the moon. Although it must be admitted that in China, resources for space exploration are created by 1500 militia people, and in Russia by 150 million people.
            2. bayard
              bayard 30 November 2020 12: 24
              +5
              Quote: slipped
              ... There is the Russian Lunar Program, until 2025 it includes the launch of three stations to the Moon. Landing Luna-25 and Luna-27 and orbiting Luna-26.

              Whether a grandmother
              Whether grandfather
              Will there be
              Or maybe not ...
              And if the money is stolen, as in the East? laughing
              Or the "chief cosmonaut" will need to fix the office and dacha?
              Fresh legend about the "Lunar elevator" and "Nuclear tug", about the "Lunar base" wassat and its budget. yes
              And how are you going to launch the launches?
              "Protons"?
              Is the sensor upside down there again?
              Are the locksmiths hungry?
              In revenge ?

              Modern Roskosmos can cause nothing but disgust and sarcasm. request
              Some scandals and a regular demonstration of incompetence.
              I understand that Bot's job is like that - keep the uniform clean ...
              But it’s too unconvincing ...
              And the uniform is covered in manure. recourse
              ... We have heard many similar promises from Rogozin, long ago and abundantly.
              And about the "lunar base" with a "lift", and about flights to asteroids and Mars. lol
              You will not fly anywhere.
              Everything will be stolen again and he "will not have enough funding." yes
              Roskosmos is ALREADY not taken seriously. request
              And this is just your merit.
              1. slipped
                slipped 30 November 2020 12: 31
                -3
                Quote: bayard

                Whether a grandmother
                Whether grandfather
                Will there be
                Or maybe not ...


                Everything is in the schedule. Thermal vacuum tests have only recently been carried out



                Quote: bayard
                And if the money is stolen, as in the East? laughing


                And if there are mushrooms in your mouth? laughing

                Quote: bayard
                And how are you going to launch the launches?
                "Protons"?


                No. The Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle with the Fregat upper stage will be used as a launch vehicle. The rocket for Luna-25 has already been ordered and is being manufactured.

                Quote: bayard
                Modern Roskosmos can cause nothing but disgust and sarcasm. request


                This is your powerlessness. Get medical treatment.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 30 November 2020 12: 59
                  +5
                  Quote: slipped
                  This is your powerlessness. Get medical treatment.

                  lol
                  When is the next transfer of charts to the right?
                  bully
                  Quote: slipped
                  Quote: bayard
                  And if the money is stolen, as in the East?


                  And if there are mushrooms in your mouth?

                  That means they will definitely steal. yes
                  Or already bully stolen.
                  You should overcome your powerlessness at least in something.
                  Well, at least deploy a group of reconnaissance satellites.
                  Including naval reconnaissance satellites.
                  Bravura statements and fiery promises are not DEEDS and COMMITMENTS.
                  You, citizen, boast of deeds, deeds.
                  COMPLETIONS.
                  Not preparing for them.
                  Not by the disbursed amounts, but by the RESULT.
                  And the sarcasm in the comments will dry up.
            3. ximkim
              ximkim 30 November 2020 18: 08
              +2
              Will remote sensing of soil with instruments on the Moon be better than soil delivered to a laboratory on Earth?
          2. Moore
            Moore 30 November 2020 12: 22
            0
            A booster rocket painted to resemble a Khokhloma with a title chosen by a competition and broadcasting songs of the head of Roscosmos will not leave a chance for a stupid Chinese piece of iron.
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 30 November 2020 19: 22
          +3
          Here in our program for sawing the dough for exploration of the Moon - I believe. And in the program of its study - not a fig. Not in this state, not under this government ..
    2. Tatyana
      Tatyana 30 November 2020 10: 07
      +11
      The landing module of the Chinese apparatus "Chang'e-5" began preparations for landing

      Good luck and success to Chinese scientists!
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 30 November 2020 11: 16
        +2
        The landing module of the Chinese apparatus "Chang'e-5" began preparations for landing
        100% "rover" will steal the American one, copy it, and sell it. yes (and in truth, envy is white, and good luck to China)
      2. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 30 November 2020 11: 16
        +4
        Comrades are on the right track!
  2. Antifreeze
    Antifreeze 30 November 2020 10: 06
    +16
    The landing module of the Chinese apparatus "Chang'e-5" began preparations for landing

    America tensed ...
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 30 November 2020 10: 14
      +1
      Unfortunately, there is no Apollo in the landing area. It would be so cool!
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 30 November 2020 10: 39
        +3
        The Chinese have long presented a photo of the American landing site on the moon, and of the actual photo of the lunar clunker, read the news.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 30 November 2020 10: 51
          +1
          Yes, I saw all this. I just want to support the trend. The Chinese will drill the moon. The Politburo would not dream of this in a nightmare!
          1. slipped
            slipped 30 November 2020 11: 16
            -1
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Yes, I saw all this. I just want to support the trend. The Chinese will drill the moon. The Politburo would not dream of this in a nightmare!


            I can remind you that we have already done all this three times and we have soil from the Moon located at the Institute of Geochemistry and Analytical Chemistry of the Russian Academy of Sciences.



            A total of 326 grams of lunar soil were delivered to Earth, including samples from a depth of more than two meters. These are samples from the Sea of ​​Plenty, the Sea of ​​Crises and from the mainland area between these seas.
            1. Sofa batyr
              Sofa batyr 30 November 2020 11: 26
              +10
              Quote: slipped
              I can remind you that we have already done all this three times and we have soil from the Moon.

              So it will probably not be superfluous to remember at what level of development we were then, and at what China.
              And think about how this is now.
              Of course, you can sprinkle ashes on your head as much as you like, shed tears and moan about the tragedy of the collapse of the USSR, the loss of production bases and scientific potential, BUT IT HAPPENED LONG LONG ...

              WHAT, or WHO, is preventing SEISAS from developing the way we could, given our capabilities and resources?
              1. slipped
                slipped 30 November 2020 11: 31
                -7
                Quote: Divan-batyr
                So it will probably not be superfluous to remember at what level of development we were then, and at what China.

                And think about how this is now.


                What does this have to do with the subject of the conversation? We have this soil.

                Quote: Divan-batyr
                BUT IT HAPPENED LONG ENOUGH ...


                The regolith delivered from the Moon did not change from this. laughing And yes, something happened to the keyboard, probably the capslok was pressed.
                1. spirit
                  spirit 30 November 2020 12: 31
                  +3
                  Dmitrty Olegovich, well enough, we recognized you hi main theses:
                  -we once had
                  -and we will do
                  How do Olegovich's adherents like to say about the Mask?
                  Then it will fly and talk ...
                  Here the moons will fly, 27 ... 150 then we will talk about them, and now we are talking about what is already flying and who has already done and not scratching with his tongue hi
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 30 November 2020 12: 34
                    -6
                    Quote: spirit
                    Dmitrty Olegovich, well enough, we recognized you hi main theses:


                    Cool, it's like Putin in everything and everywhere, right? laughing

                    Quote: spirit
                    Then it will fly and talk ...


                    Почему нет? laughing no problem.
                2. Sofa batyr
                  Sofa batyr 1 December 2020 11: 45
                  0
                  Quote: slipped
                  What does this have to do with the subject of the conversation? We have this soil.

                  Direct business yes
                  You say the ground? And what good does this sand give us in terms of progress? Will you put it on the bread, to put it another way?
                  The Chinese, their experience, technology, scientific research obtained during the space program - will smear ...
            2. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 30 November 2020 11: 48
              0
              This is my childhood, I was an inquisitive boy beyond my years, I remember. In 76, on the day of cosmonautics, I made such a report at school that my parents were summoned. The topic of the development of American astronautics, the project "Shustle" I had to be in time in the morning in the Globus store, so as not to disassemble .. All from there. Murmansk.
            3. paul3390
              paul3390 30 November 2020 19: 26
              +3
              I can remind you that we have already done all this three times and we have soil from the Moon located at the Institute of Geochemistry and Analytical Chemistry of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

              We didn't do it. This was done by the great Soviet Union. There is no need to distort the facts.
            4. gsev
              gsev 2 December 2020 04: 56
              -1
              Quote: slipped
              A total of 326 grams of lunar soil were delivered to Earth

              The Chinese apparatus Chang'e-5 is going to bring about 2 kg of lunar soil to Earth.
          2. Sofa batyr
            Sofa batyr 30 November 2020 11: 30
            +10
            Quote: tralflot1832
            The Chinese will drill the moon. The Politburo would not dream of that in a nightmare!

            "Minus" for the truth. Indeed, in comparison with the level of the USSR, we in Space not only stopped, but also degraded.
            And not only in Space ...
            1. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 30 November 2020 15: 58
              0
              not only stopped, but also degraded.

              Is the construction of a cosmodrome and a whole city for people a degradation?
              Sending a Spectral Telescope to Explore Deep Space is Degradation?
              Heavy missile test is also degradation?
              1. Sofa batyr
                Sofa batyr 1 December 2020 11: 21
                0
                Quote: Interlocutor
                Is the construction of a cosmodrome and a whole city for people a degradation?

                You will not accidentally indicate (in addition to your post) about what scandals and criminal cases accompanied the construction, and why so many defects and imperfections were allowed there that their elimination requires amounts comparable to those already spent?
                1. Interlocutor
                  Interlocutor 1 December 2020 14: 07
                  +1
                  You will not accidentally indicate (in addition to your post) about what scandals and criminal cases accompanied the construction, and why so many defects and imperfections were allowed there that their elimination requires amounts comparable to those already spent?


                  I agree. g2vna was fully revealed during work. Volkov to 22ena. But this does not diminish the action itself and the end result. This is clearly not degradation.
        2. Per se.
          Per se. 30 November 2020 11: 33
          -2
          Quote: Free Wind
          read the news
          Wonderful things are happening on the moon. If you didn’t know, then there is such a directive as the "US National Space Policy", from which, the United States considers space infrastructure, including ground and space segments and communications between them, as critical to its national interests. The same China will not go to open confrontation with the United States, limiting the methods and nature of research on the moon.

          Russia, as the legal successor to the USSR, is the only country that de jure is within the jurisdiction outlined in the directive "US National Space Policy". Only Russia now has the full right to inspect the lunar surface with any detail that is possible. But the Russian authorities will not use their rights as long as they follow the strategy of US global domination, as long as our "elite" is dependent on those who keep their money.

          Now it's not even the era of Kubrick's special effects, but the wonders of computer graphics. If you want, they will make footprints on the Sun.

          You can understand a Russian man who can adapt his wife's tights instead of a torn engine drive belt, but to understand how the "lunar conquerors" used a pack of female pads (even diapers were not yet available) for a "dry closet", planning an extremely difficult mission, in their right mind is impossible. And this is just one part of space medicine that the Yankees had no idea about. Everything else is no less nonsense, especially the flight to the Moon along the "Kondratyuk Route", with a loop in the Earth's radiation belts for acceleration, and the "flight" to the Moon itself, during the years of maximum solar activity.

          Here we can say to all patriots of America - blessed are those who believe. If we stand on strictly scientific ground, then it will become evident that we know about the manned flights of Apollo to the Moon exclusively from NASA, and to date there is not a single independent confirmation of these missions.
          There were no even attempts at inspections, although it would seem that there are no technical obstacles to this. Therefore, belief in lunar missions is entirely based on belief in the honesty of NASA, but this approach is contrary to scientific principles and cannot be considered objective.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 30 November 2020 11: 47
            +1
            Quote: Per se.
            Quote: Free Wind
            read the news
            Wonderful things are happening on the moon. If you didn’t know, then there is such a directive as the "US National Space Policy", from which, the United States considers space infrastructure, including ground and space segments and communications between them, as critical to its national interests. The same China will not go to open confrontation with the United States, limiting the methods and nature of research on the moon.

            Russia, as the legal successor to the USSR, is the only country that de jure is within the jurisdiction outlined in the directive "US National Space Policy". Only Russia now has the full right to inspect the lunar surface with any detail that is possible. But the Russian authorities will not use their rights as long as they follow the strategy of US global domination, as long as our "elite" is dependent on those who keep their money.

            Now it's not even the era of Kubrick's special effects, but the wonders of computer graphics. If you want, they will make footprints on the Sun.

            You can understand a Russian man who can adapt his wife's tights instead of a torn engine drive belt, but to understand how the "lunar conquerors" used a pack of female pads (even diapers were not yet available) for a "dry closet", planning an extremely difficult mission, in their right mind is impossible. And this is just one part of space medicine that the Yankees had no idea about. Everything else is no less nonsense, especially the flight to the Moon along the "Kondratyuk Route", with a loop in the Earth's radiation belts for acceleration, and the "flight" to the Moon itself, during the years of maximum solar activity.

            Here we can say to all patriots of America - blessed are those who believe. If we stand on strictly scientific ground, then it will become evident that we know about the manned flights of Apollo to the Moon exclusively from NASA, and to date there is not a single independent confirmation of these missions.
            There were no even attempts at inspections, although it would seem that there are no technical obstacles to this. Therefore, belief in lunar missions is entirely based on belief in the honesty of NASA, but this approach is contrary to scientific principles and cannot be considered objective.

            At first, they said that the USSR agreed with the United States on recognizing the lunar landing and received preferences, but now, in the midst of sanctions and the Cold War, what preferences does Russia receive?
            the threat of publicizing the alleged lunar scam can not only complete the construction of the northern stream, but also annex half of Ukraine. Rogozin should only fly to the moon for the sake of Mask and provide incriminating evidence
        3. Max Lebedev
          Max Lebedev 30 November 2020 12: 09
          +15
          Quote: Free Wind
          The Chinese have long presented a photo of the landing site of the Americans on the moon, well, the actual photo of the lunar clunker, read the news

          It also says on the fence ... Read the news. And if you change it - the pictures are not proof, pictures can be faked.
      2. Avior
        Avior 30 November 2020 11: 23
        +7
        it makes no sense to study the same thing twice, so they sit in different places.
        and no one believes in a lunar conspiracy, to fly for verification is too expensive a pleasure.
  3. Alien From
    Alien From 30 November 2020 10: 22
    +4
    Unfortunately, here you can only envy the Chinese ... (
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 30 November 2020 16: 00
      +2
      Unfortunately, here you can only envy the Chinese ... (

      Do not envy them, you must try to fulfill your plans. (Roscosmos website)
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 30 November 2020 20: 37
        -1
        Let's leave the Roscosmos website alone)
  4. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 30 November 2020 10: 26
    +3
    It seems that when the United States begins to explore the Moon, there will already be a lot of Chinese there, while Russian spacecraft will only fly to the Moon with parting words: there is no money, but you are holding on.
  5. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 30 November 2020 10: 27
    +3
    Well done, good luck comrades!
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 November 2020 10: 30
    +9
    Good luck to the Chinese researchers. A serious task ... It is very difficult and requires high reliability of all system elements. Demonstration of the high level of technology achieved by the country.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2020 10: 37
    +7
    Except how to praise the Chinese more and have nothing to say.
  8. Cananecat
    Cananecat 30 November 2020 10: 39
    0
    Quote: iouris
    ... to landing on the lunar surface.

    We went to post the territory until the starry mattresses were all drawn. )))
  9. Alex 2020
    Alex 2020 30 November 2020 10: 40
    -4
    Well ... well done Chinese. We can only be glad for their successes and once again spit in the direction of Rosbatut. wink
    1. slipped
      slipped 30 November 2020 10: 50
      -5
      Quote: Alex 2020
      We can only be glad for their successes and once again spit in the direction of Rosbatut. wink


      Kindergarten "Camomile". Well spit and jump laughing
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 30 November 2020 11: 19
        -2
        cry in the corner, praying for your beloved power
        1. slipped
          slipped 30 November 2020 11: 21
          -6
          Quote: Varyag71
          cry in the corner, praying for your beloved power


          Another one from the kindergarten brought his complexes here? laughing
          1. Varyag71
            Varyag71 30 November 2020 11: 30
            -1
            What kind of new animal are you? A new sample of Kremlebot?
            1. slipped
              slipped 30 November 2020 11: 33
              -6
              Quote: Varyag71
              What kind of new animal are you? A new sample of Kremlebot?


              Boy, be quiet while the grown uncles speak. laughing
              1. Varyag71
                Varyag71 30 November 2020 11: 40
                -1
                yes boy offended you are here. look, don't get tired of minus. and no more writing. you, kremlebots and cheers patriots, cause only disgust. you don’t even mind when you throw it away like used toilet paper.
                1. slipped
                  slipped 30 November 2020 11: 45
                  -4
                  Quote: Varyag71
                  you kremlebots and cheers patriots, cause only disgust. you don’t even mind when you throw it away like used toilet paper.


                  Whoa, how did that break lol maybe you should see a doctor?
    2. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 30 November 2020 16: 03
      +1
      We can only be glad for their successes and once again spit in the direction of Rosbatut.

      We do not have Rosbatut, we have Roskosmos, which employs a huge number of people. Doing their job well. You apparently do not respect your country. You see the bad in everything.
      1. Alex 2020
        Alex 2020 30 November 2020 16: 28
        +3
        I love my country. But the state does not. I do not like those parasites and their pussies that sit in offices of all levels and do nothing but idle chatter and steal, destroy what was created by the people! Our country is good, and the state of ... hi
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 30 November 2020 16: 34
          0
          But the state does not. I do not like those parasites and their pussies that sit in offices of all levels and do nothing but idle chatter and steal, destroy what was created by the people!


          Then why are you distorting the name of the organization in which you work your beloved people?
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 November 2020 10: 55
    +1
    Rosbatut also supports the defense capability of Russia! Do we have any problems with this? The Americans do not think so, Russia has bypassed them in a circle, this is such a Rosbatut!
  11. AVA77
    AVA77 30 November 2020 12: 18
    +3
    The Chinese are great, they are slowly raising their level to the USSR and America. There is no sense for modern Russia to repeat the achievements of the USSR, we are already heirs, It is better to let ours saw the tug
    1. slipped
      slipped 30 November 2020 12: 39
      -1
      Quote: AVA77
      The Chinese are great, they are slowly raising their level to the USSR and America. There is no sense for modern Russia to repeat the achievements of the USSR, we are already heirs, It is better to let ours saw the tug


      The tug is another component of our lunar program. We are going to deliver the soil by the Luna-28 station. According to the plan, this is 2027. Only this is not the kind of soil that the Chinese are now trying to get. The station's task is to deliver to Earth a hermetically packed sample of lunar ice in a cryogenic, frozen state, that is, in its original form, without disturbing its structure. By the way, it is planned to install a small lunar rover at the station.
      1. reader65
        reader65 30 November 2020 13: 42
        0
        HOORAY! Well, for our beloved moon tractor! drinks
  12. hydroy
    hydroy 30 November 2020 14: 16
    -1
    Our answer can take place only by October 2021, and then there is only a cartoon! And the work as such is not visible!
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 30 November 2020 16: 07
      +1
      And the work as such is not visible!

      You just don't see her. Our disadvantage is that we are not good at PR. It is not in "our" nature.
      Much is being done in the country in many directions. The central channels are not interested in this. Solovyov too. Enthusiasts who provide information cannot quickly break into the information field.
  13. Nychego
    Nychego 30 November 2020 15: 58
    +1
    And here the day before yesterday "Angara" did not take off again - they moved it without dust and noise, now for December, without specifying the date. Stability: Chanye flies, Angara does not.
    It is interesting how quickly Ragozin and his associates would have gone to China to earn money for the "last patron". fellow
  14. Volga073
    Volga073 30 November 2020 17: 56
    +3
    The success of the communist system over the decaying West.
  15. Selevc
    Selevc 30 November 2020 18: 10
    -1
    Well, China sent a submachine gun to the moon and told about the flight of the taikonaut to the moon !!! Russia did not send anything to the moon and told about future flights to the moon of its automata and cosmonauts !!! The USA did not send anything to the moon - they have one president "returning to the moon" and the next president "breaks the lunar plans" of the previous one !!!

    Reminds nothing ??? In the popular language this is called sanchez - that is, in other words, a lie in three boxes !!! This is a world sanctuary on the topic of man's flight to the moon !!!

    All preparation for manned flights to the Moon ends at the stage of development of layouts and at the stage of a talking shop - and this has been going on since the 80s of the last century, that is, for 40 years !!! All plans related to a man's flight to the Moon from the world's space powers do not even have a time frame - that is, such preparations can last forever !!!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 November 2020 19: 45
      -2
      The United States has everything in iron for a manned flight to the moon - it remains to assemble a rocket whether it will be done at 21 or 22. And if there is a failure with this rocket on tests, they will go to Musk, his super heavy rocket from the age of 18 will fly, they will make a new fairing of large dimensions and in flight.
      1. Selevc
        Selevc 1 December 2020 07: 07
        0
        And if there is a failure with this rocket on tests, they will go to Musk, his super-heavy rocket will fly since the age of 18, they will make a new fairing of large dimensions and in flight.
        And we don't believe Mask !!! And who will prove that Mask's statements about flights to the moon are not fake ??? Musk is a person directly interested in US space victories !!!

        Today, any statements by the United States about flights to the moon are no longer proof ... After the Apollo adventure, there is no trust in the United States !!! That is, the whole world will of course swallow any of Musk's statements, but you cannot convince skeptics !!! There will always be someone who will say - I do not believe the Mask !!!

        To date, the real proof of the possibility of manned flight to the moon will be the flight of the crew of any country in the world except the USA !!! And while this is dull - continuous layouts and chatter !!!