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Machine gun fire control was carried out remotely: Iran reports details of a terrorist attack against an atomic scientist

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Iran publishes preliminary data obtained during the investigation of a terrorist attack against nuclear physicist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. Recall that an Iranian scientist who was engaged in developments in the nuclear field died while driving in a car in the suburbs of Tehran.


The Iranian press writes that everything happened when a car with a scientist entered the city of Absard, accompanied by cars with security. When the first car increased the distance to check the safety of the road, machine-gun fire was opened on Mohsen Fakhrizada's car.

The Iranian special services through the media announced information that the machine gun had a remote control and was installed in the back of a pickup truck on the side of the road. At the same time, the car's armor protected Fakhrizade. But he allegedly decided to get out of the car after the first shots because he "did not understand what happened." The driver of the second car tried to close the scientist with his car, but at that moment an explosion thundered. Atomic scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh was taken to a hospital with numerous wounds, where he died a short time later.

It is noted that the attackers themselves were not at the entrance to Absard. Where did they control the shooting and detonation from, has not yet been reported. At the same time, it is quite obvious that they had full information about exactly where and when the cortege of the Iranian scientist would follow. Therefore, it is also obvious that the terrorist attack was being prepared for a long time, and its perpetrators could be persons who are well familiar with the scientist's work schedule.

Meanwhile, the Iranian special services have compiled sketches of the alleged perpetrators of the crime. There are also several photos in which, as noted, the likely criminals. Photo materials were sent to all hotels in Iran, as well as transferred to the Iranian border guards. The Iranian media noted that at the moment the likelihood that the perpetrators of the terrorist act left Iran is minimal.

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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 30 November 2020 07: 15
    -4
    Iranian special services have compiled sketches of the alleged perpetrators of the crime.
    It is not ordinary performers that are interesting, but the customers ... that is who we need to come to grips with and subsequently put the exact same pig on them using high-tech means and methods.
    Customer names rarely appear in the media ... sadness.
    1. Civil
      Civil 30 November 2020 07: 41
      +15
      Judging by the organization, this is an act of state terrorism, in fact, a casus belli, but Iran is still not in the mood to get involved in a big war, they can be understood. Iran is isolated, under sanctions, the consequences of the Iran-Iraq war have not yet been overcome, and numerous participants who remember the horror and hardships of the long-term war are still alive.
      1. borberd
        borberd 30 November 2020 09: 29
        -12%
        Quote: Civil
        Judging by the organization, it is an act of state terrorism,

        Like this ? :

        Qatar releases Russians convicted of murder of Yandarbiev

        https://www.rbc.ru/society/23/12/2004/5703be109a7947afa08cc4b2

        Or ... well, you know - it's different ... wassat
        1. Civil
          Civil 30 November 2020 09: 45
          +11
          Qatar releases Russians convicted of murder of Yandarbiev

          There was a solution to Russia's internal issues, and not an attack on high-ranking Qataris. This is somewhat different.
          1. borberd
            borberd 30 November 2020 10: 08
            -13%
            I already understood that this is different lol
        2. neri73-r
          neri73-r 30 November 2020 11: 46
          +7
          Quote: borberd
          Qatar releases Russians convicted of murder of Yandarbiev

          And when did Yandarbiev become a high-level official in Qatar? Huh? An ordinary terrorist. Yes, this is different, it's like looking for fascists all over the world and ending, if you can't take them out and try!
          1. borberd
            borberd 30 November 2020 12: 05
            -9
            Who cares ? And here and there they banged someone on the territory of another state. What some on this site regard as an act of state terrorism.
            For some he is a terrorist, but for others he is a rebel and a freedom fighter. It all depends on the side from which you look at it.
            1. neri73-r
              neri73-r 30 November 2020 12: 43
              0
              Quote: borberd
              Who cares ? And here and there they banged someone on the territory of another state. What some on this site regard as an act of state terrorism.
              For some he is a terrorist, but for others he is a rebel and a freedom fighter. It all depends on the side from which you look at it.

              100%. Was there a Holocaust? Did I understand you correctly that you can look at it from different angles? And if, for example, there was a Holocaust and a nationality that was destroyed then itself applies the same methods to others, then it can also be destroyed like the Nazis wherever individual members of this nation are caught? That is, there will be no - and we are for sho? good
              1. borberd
                borberd 30 November 2020 15: 28
                -5
                Is your perception of reality okay? Apparently not. Are you comparing the liquidation of the IRGC general and the murder of millions of civilians ??? So let's then, condemn the killing of SS generals during the war. Tell us how bad it was when Red Army soldiers killed Wehrmacht officers.
                Your attempts to compare the general of the IRGC (which is very similar in structure to the SS) with civilians raise questions about adequacy.
                1. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 30 November 2020 16: 10
                  -1
                  And who recognized the IRGC equal to the SS? So the Mossad is very similar to the Abwehr and the SS! That is, is it normal to kill a nuclear physicist who collaborated with the special services (or is an officer) of YOUR country? And if this is done in the Promised Land or in the United States? Hike it with you with the perception of that ... not that! tongue
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 30 November 2020 16: 45
                    +1
                    And without recognition by anyone, the structure of the IRGC is not equal to the SS? What are you talking about? wassat The English have a saying - if something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - then it is a duck. Read the composition and organization of the IRGC and the SS - twin brothers. The Persians were pro-fascist during the war, and did not forget the occupation by the Soviet army. They "loving" you are called the little Satan and are going to bang right after the big - the USA. And you tear collars on your shirts for them. fool
                    Once again, so that you understand - eliminated the general of the IRGC, no matter what else you come up with for yourself. But if the next nuclear engineer will not be associated with the IRGC, then he too is a legitimate target. The Iranians also knew about this, because he had the 4th level of protection, after the protection of the Ayatols.
                    1. neri73-r
                      neri73-r 30 November 2020 17: 58
                      -1
                      Quote: borberd
                      And you tear collars on your shirts for them.

                      Nobody tears a shirt for them! This time! fool You, gentlemen, have to decide for yourself whether there is international law or not, but there is the right of the strong.! It's two! negative And three, this is necessary so that when you are "started", you honestly said, our murdered person, for example a scientist, is a legitimate goal, since someone has not signed a nonproliferation treaty, has no nuclear weapons, etc. yes And this is why I am writing, because today Iran, tomorrow S. Korea, then we or China, but whatever this is for snot at the beginning you need to give someone, so that the older brother, including, thinks. Cool the ardor, so to speak! love
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 30 November 2020 18: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        You, gentlemen, have to decide for themselves whether there is international law or not, but there is the right of the strong.!

                        Are you talking about the Crimea, or so, inspired?
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        And three, this is necessary so that when they "start" you, you honestly say, our killed, for example a scientist, the goal is legitimate,

                        and why are you so worried about us, we do not cry, in war as in war.
                        Our people were killed more than once, but we found them all and sent them to 72 virgins.
                        selyavi.
                        They will kill ours - legitimately, what's the problem?
                        There is a war between us.
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        And that's why I am writing, because today Iran, tomorrow S. Korea, then we or China

                        Do not push the car in front of the locomotive.
                        Solve problems as they arise.
                        Otherwise, your --The next generation will live under communism - it will never come.
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        but that would not be on snot at the beginning you need to give someone,

                        It is correct that Iran regularly and
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        so that the older brother also thinks. Cool the ardor, so to speak!

                        Get off the couch and cool the ardor of your elder brother.
                        laughing
                        The warrior laughing
                      2. neri73-r
                        neri73-r 30 November 2020 21: 30
                        -3
                        Kaaakoy you are brave !!!!!! laughing And cool. Probably from Iran write?!? wassat
                    2. borberd
                      borberd 30 November 2020 21: 08
                      +2
                      And it turns out that you are tearing the shirt on your chest for yourself, covering the Iranians? ... but you started from afar. Just like in the joke about female logic. Tuck in the 96th sofa and forward.
                    3. neri73-r
                      neri73-r 30 November 2020 21: 32
                      -3
                      Quote: borberd
                      And it turns out that you are tearing the shirt on your chest for yourself, covering the Iranians? ... but you started from afar. Just like in the joke about female logic. Tuck in the 96th sofa and forward.

                      I understood, you understand everything correctly, covering up criminal acts, a person himself becomes a criminal!
                    4. borberd
                      borberd 1 December 2020 00: 33
                      +2
                      This is a war not declared by us. And in war, they wage hostilities that some who consider themselves experts in international law call themselves criminal. Before you accuse us of anything, look at yourself.
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 1 December 2020 07: 22
            +1
            Quote: borberd
            Is your perception of reality okay? Apparently not. Are you comparing the liquidation of the IRGC general and the murder of millions of civilians ??? So let's then, condemn the killing of SS generals during the war. Tell us how bad it was when Red Army soldiers killed Wehrmacht officers.
            Your attempts to compare the general of the IRGC (which is very similar in structure to the SS) with civilians raise questions about adequacy.

            The United States is at war with Iran? Believe me, no one would even squeak if they killed a general somewhere in Afghanistan or Syria
        3. yehat2
          yehat2 1 December 2020 00: 56
          0
          logic can go even further - if they use these methods in combination with what they were accused of in the Reich and it is proved to be true, then the question of re-evaluating the Holocaust arises.
          It seems to me that the Israelis in the long run did not have any joy in carrying out this operation.
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 1 December 2020 09: 45
            -1
            Quote: yehat2
            logic can go even further - if they use these methods in combination with what they were accused of in the Reich and it is proved to be true, then the question of re-evaluating the Holocaust arises.
            It seems to me that the Israelis in the long run did not have any joy in carrying out this operation.

            But they (commentators from Israel) prefer to pretend that they do not understand what and what they are being told here in the comments! It all comes down, like all liberals, to an argument to the individual, why give arguments or justify them, you must quickly call a sofa expert, etc.
            1. yehat2
              yehat2 3 December 2020 19: 41
              +1
              Well, they called it a sofa expert - what is it? Almost all of them are. Only this does not exclude the possibility of analyzing, the only difference is that someone does it correctly, and someone does not.
  • Megatron
    Megatron 30 November 2020 08: 30
    +3
    The honorary discoverer of remote-controlled weapons was the famous St. Petersburg killer Lesha - Soldier, who used a remote-controlled Kalash in the 90s. True, due to the imperfection of the design, the device did not work correctly.
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 30 November 2020 08: 41
    -2
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Not ordinary performers are interesting, but customers ..

    This is exactly what is not interesting, because as you know.
    This is an act of the state. terrorism carried out by Israel no matter whose hands.
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 30 November 2020 07: 16
    -19%
    Maybe he became a victim of internal strife among the Iranian elites. Who knows...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 30 November 2020 07: 21
      +10
      Maybe he became a victim of internal strife among the Iranian elites. Who knows...
      Yeah ... This version is convenient to steer the investigation on the wrong track ... the only thing I can agree with is that Israel could use the Iranian elite in the dark playing on their contradictions ... the technique is well known.
      And so the operation to liquidate Fakhrizadeh was carried out in the best traditions of the Israeli special services. hi
    2. Ura Orlov
      Ura Orlov 30 November 2020 08: 00
      0
      Yeah, strife between Iranian Arabs and Jewish Arabs.
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 30 November 2020 07: 17
    +2
    A remotely working machine gun, mining the area ... One thing is clear - This is definitely not a domestic murder, but seriously, the Work of Specialists through the Agency. Question - Which Country?
    1. KCA
      KCA 30 November 2020 07: 19
      +13
      I think, without even opening a single letter, everyone will guess the name of the whole country
    2. Volodin
      Volodin 30 November 2020 07: 21
      +12
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Question - Which Country?

      Here are just the least questions ...
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 30 November 2020 07: 25
        +6
        Quote: Volodin

        Here are just the least questions ...

        The Iranian Nuclear Program (in fact, like Iran itself) and without Israel, if you are hinting at it, has enough enemies. Persians are like a bone in the throat of the same Saud, Turks, USA. So, if you do not have a "crystal" magic ball, I would not make such unambiguous statements.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 30 November 2020 07: 32
          +1
          Persians are like a bone in the throat to the same Ships, Turks, USA.
          The Turks and Americans officially disowned this terrorist attack by condemning it ... it means that either the Saudis or the Jews, and both are silent ... it means that it is logical that they worked in pairs.
      2. Ura Orlov
        Ura Orlov 30 November 2020 08: 03
        -1
        Zion States of America?
      3. atalef
        atalef 30 November 2020 18: 19
        +1
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Question - Which Country?

        Here are just the least questions ...

        So, preferably with proofs - why not Saud?
        with a couple of logical chains --- so that those who are in the subject do not have any questions. hi
    3. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2020 10: 20
      -1
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Remote operating machine gun, mining of the site ..

      If so, then very creative.
      The fact that he got out of the car to figure it out is a lie, I personally saw the shooting from the spot, he is sitting in the car shot dead.
      Then what nonsense, the car was fired upon, and he went out to figure it out?
      He had guards inside the car and two more escort vehicles - in case of an attack, the first thing to do was to gas and bring down, and he kind of went out to figure it out.
      Fairy tales for suckers.
      They tortured me practically in the center of Tehran and fled and got caught.
      Aerobatics.
      Bravo to the intelligence who carried it out.
      Hope it was the Mossad.
      If you remember that 2 weeks ago, number 2 of the alkaid who was hiding in Tehran was soaked - then bravo.
      The Mossad (if it is him), its agent network and operational capabilities.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 30 November 2020 10: 27
        -2
        Bravo to the intelligence who carried it out.

        Do you like it when Iranian scientists are killed? belay
        Yes, my friend is not much different from the SS of Hitler's Germany ..
        1. borberd
          borberd 30 November 2020 10: 37
          +1
          And it depends on what .. scientists. You probably would have shed tears for Dr. Mengele.
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 30 November 2020 12: 08
            -5
            I myself would personally hang Mengele on a birch tree for his scientific experiments on humans ... but according to Fakhrizada, I think the Jews committed a crime by killing him ... as they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
            Fakhrizade did not kill people, did not torture them and there was no need to kill him morally ... you Jews have recently begun to replace the concepts of good and evil ... it will cost you dearly.
            1. borberd
              borberd 30 November 2020 15: 07
              +1
              Ett why? Mengele was just a sadist, and this Iranian bomb dad was making a bomb that the demoniac ayatols are going to use. If the USSR, the USA, France and other members of the nuclear club have made nuclear weapons only for containment, then the ayatols do for an attack. If the British at the beginning of the war had the opportunity to eliminate von Braun, they would not think twice. During the war, partisans killed Gauleiters and senior Wehrmacht officers, some of whom were also scientists. And everyone is proud of them, because there is something for them.
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              Fakhrizade did not kill people, did not torture them and there was no need to kill him

              Are you sure about that ? He was the general of the IRGC, a terrorist organization that tortured and killed thousands of people around the world. The IRGC has its own prisons where people go missing.
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 1 December 2020 07: 29
                0
                Quote: borberd
                Ett why? Mengele was just a sadist, and this Iranian bomb dad was making a bomb that the demoniac ayatols are going to use. If the USSR, the USA, France and other members of the nuclear club have made nuclear weapons only for containment, then the ayatols do for an attack. If the British at the beginning of the war had the opportunity to eliminate von Braun, they would not think twice. During the war, partisans killed Gauleiters and senior Wehrmacht officers, some of whom were also scientists. And everyone is proud of them, because there is something for them.
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Fakhrizade did not kill people, did not torture them and there was no need to kill him

                Are you sure about that ? He was the general of the IRGC, a terrorist organization that tortured and killed thousands of people around the world. The IRGC has its own prisons where people go missing.

                Once again, do not confuse the Soviet partisans who acted during the war and occupation, and the work of special services on the territory of a state that is not at war.
        2. sidoroff
          sidoroff 30 November 2020 11: 08
          +4
          and if this scientist is one of the highest ranks of the SS? like von Ardenne or von Braun?
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 30 November 2020 12: 09
            +1
            Well, the ranks in the Mossad are now similar to the ranks in the SS. hi
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              1. atalef
                atalef 30 November 2020 16: 19
                +4
                Quote: Silhouette
                Dragon effect. The Jews defeated fascism so much that they themselves became fascists and racists.

                Well, I can still understand the accusations of racism - it is difficult to convict us of love for Arabs, although this applies equally to you and your love for Ukrainians or Americans, but fascists - which side is interesting?
        3. atalef
          atalef 30 November 2020 11: 41
          +2
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Do you like it when Iranian scientists are killed?

          Children's babble, you can love mashed potatoes with a cutlet, and even then not always.
          He is the general of the IRGC, head of the Iranian nuclear weapons development program.
          He is our enemy.
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Yes, you my friend is not much different from the SS of Hitlerite Germany

          Lech switch to iOS - less buggy. good
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 30 November 2020 12: 12
            +3
            Lech switch to iOS - less buggy.

            I understand hurt. smile If physicist Fakhrizadeh is your enemy, then any of your physicists becomes a legal enemy of Iran and he can be legally eliminated just like you killed an Iranian physicist ... it looks like you have already gone too far without understanding the essence of the problem.
            The more you kill Iranian scientists, the more you get yourself into trouble ... how you can't understand that.
            1. atalef
              atalef 30 November 2020 13: 19
              +2
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              If physicist Fakhrizadeh is your enemy, then any physicist of yours becomes a legal enemy of Iran and can be legally eliminated

              Baby babble, the impression is that Iran is looking for a legal way. The Jewish center in Buienos Aires - they blew up killing 80 people - not the military, but ordinary civilians - the same type on legal grounds?
              The Iranians would be soaked without any regret - if they could.
              physics

              General of the IRGC, head of nuclear weapons development
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              not understanding the essence of the problem.

              We do not understand perfectly well - he was a problem, no man - no problem --- this is still the father of nations said
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              The more you kill Iranian scientists, the more you get yourself into trouble ... how you can't understand this

              This is your opinion, which has nothing to do with reality.
        4. Baal
          Baal 30 November 2020 15: 33
          +5
          If Georgia developed nuclear weapons and would constantly claim that it would destroy this and that, would Russia react differently?
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 1 December 2020 07: 36
            0
            Quote: Baal
            If Georgia developed nuclear weapons and would constantly claim that it would destroy this and that, would Russia react differently?

            Incidentally, Ukraine is now declaring its return to the status of a nuclear power. Yes, and the USSR allowed the appearance of nuclear weapons in Israel, Pakistan and South Africa. And the United States did not create nuclear weapons for deterrence.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 30 November 2020 07: 25
    +9
    Mattress or Israel. The third is not given, in my opinion.
  • Avior
    Avior 30 November 2020 07: 29
    +2
    21st century however.
    From the time has come!
    They are looking for saboteurs in hotels.
    So it will come to the point that you will need to search in nightclubs.
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2020 16: 24
      +2
      Quote: Avior
      century however.
      From the time has come!
      They are looking for saboteurs in hotels.

      What to look for, everything is clear
      This was reported by the Iranian Press TV channel, citing sources.

      The report says that parts of the weapons used in the assassination of the nuclear scientist show they were made in Israel. In particular, this is indicated by its logo, as well as the specifications of the Israeli military industry..

      Practically --- Shyirlitz walked along the central street of Berlin and could not understand what was betraying him - whether Budenovka, or a Mauser hanging on his belt, or a parachute dragging behind him.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 30 November 2020 07: 33
    +7
    This version caused strong mistrust in the ranks of commentators - a remote explosion of a car standing in the path of the convoy was still going anywhere, but a remote targeted firing from a machine gun installed in a Nissan at an armored car, from which Fakhrizade accidentally got out, although he could from it and not leave - this is something from the realm of fantasy. Most likely, this version was thrown into the press in order to justify the inaction of the bodyguards, who failed to protect the scientist-official from the shooters, as well as the helplessness of the special services, which for two days did not manage to establish the identity of the shooters, not to mention the arrest of the perpetrators of the assassination ...
    1. sidoroff
      sidoroff 30 November 2020 08: 00
      +2
      on the other hand, it is safe to say that the inferior Hollywood craft "jackal" was seen in the IRGC. btw bruce willis
      not among the suspects?
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 30 November 2020 15: 58
        0
        Well, there is a newer film, how with the help of a remotely controlled anti-sniper rifle, the US president was almost banged .. From a distance of under 2 km ..))
  • Avior
    Avior 30 November 2020 07: 34
    +3
    Such a difference with the first messages is not clear
    ... The cortege was moving along a deserted highway when the car of the scientist Nissan Teana was shot, and the security car was blown up by a shot from an RPG-7 grenade launcher.

    In addition, there was a shootout between five attackers and the scientist's bodyguards, one of whom was hit by four bullets, according to preliminary data, he also died, reports the Tasnim agency. There are also reports of three attackers killed in the shootout.

    They also wrote that one of the attackers was detained.
    And now, remote control.
    And the fact that he got out of the car under machine-gun fire is no security will help.
    An attack on such could not have been calculated.
    If the vehicle was armored, there was every chance that the attack would fail.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 30 November 2020 11: 29
      0
      A good Guard would not let the scientist leave the car. An obvious puncture of the guards. By the way, his relatives are guarded. I trusted my relatives, not specialists. Here is the result.
      1. atalef
        atalef 30 November 2020 13: 20
        +5
        Quote: Alex Justice
        A good Guard would not let the scientist leave the car. An obvious puncture of the guards. By the way, his relatives are guarded. I trusted my relatives, not specialists. Here is the result.

        Another tale, relatives are bodyguards.
        A fairy tale for suckers
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 30 November 2020 07: 41
    +1
    Only one of the published photographs looks like a composite. The rest look like photos from some documents or even private photographs.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 30 November 2020 07: 50
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Only one of the published photographs looks like a composite. The rest look like photos from some documents or even private photographs.

      From the material: "There is also a few photos, on which, as noted, the likely culprits. "
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 30 November 2020 08: 19
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        "There are also several photos in which, as noted, the likely criminals."

        All the more so. Seemingly normal photos, not random from any cameras. So people are famous. Either the Persians are already holding in their hands someone who confesses everything and shows who they should be. Security, it is also in Africa secret police.
  • bobwings
    bobwings 30 November 2020 08: 11
    -2
    The main suspect is Walter White, aka Heisenberg, the protagonist of Breaking Bad. Automatic machine guns are his way :-)
  • kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 30 November 2020 08: 16
    +4
    Jews and Yankees, jointly or independently. even strange that a vial with an incomprehensible liquid and an inscription in Cyrillic (with errors like in Hollywood films) "newbie" was not found in the back.
  • bar
    bar 30 November 2020 08: 25
    +8
    "Came out to see what happened" ... "Remote controlled machine gun" ...
    It seems to me alone that some kind of game?
  • Abdula
    Abdula 30 November 2020 08: 38
    +4
    An excellent operation of the special services, someone needs to learn, otherwise they cannot even normally poison
    1. Crash
      Crash 30 November 2020 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: Abdula
      otherwise they can't even poison normally

      So for those who are not poisoned, such sanctions are imposed!
      But for the killed - ay, maladtsy!
      Where? Where are the sanctions from the EU, US and Tribalts ??? And no need to whistle that the country is unknown am
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 30 November 2020 08: 45
    +3
    In general, if you think about it a little, then the greatest doubts are caused by the reason why Iran is so eager to acquire nuclear weapons. Because of her, he went to the hardest sacrifices: unimaginable financial spending, brutal sanctions that destroyed the economy and brought the country to hyperinflation, immeasurable political losses that turned Iran into an outcast ... So, why so much effort? For the sake of the annihilation of little Israel declared by the ayatols at every corner?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 30 November 2020 08: 54
      +6
      Quote: A. Privalov
      the most doubtful is the reason why Iran is so eager to acquire nuclear weapons.

      And maybe everything is much simpler: Iran does not want to become another "Syria", "Libya", "Yugoslavia". After all, "baby Israel" is for this option ... If for another, so long ago both countries would have sat down at the negotiating table and achieved a result.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 30 November 2020 09: 26
        +4
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: A. Privalov
        the most doubtful is the reason why Iran is so eager to acquire nuclear weapons.

        And maybe everything is much simpler: Iran does not want to become another "Syria", "Libya", "Yugoslavia". After all, "baby Israel" is for this option ... If for another, so long ago both countries would have sat down at the negotiating table and achieved a result.

        Conversation? For what reason? The countries do not have common borders, there are about 2000 km between them. Israel has no territorial, material or economic claims against Iran. (in fact, like Iran to Israel.)
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 30 November 2020 10: 06
          -3
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Conversation? For what reason?

          As they say, ch.t.d. - which was required to be proved. Well, you don’t want to negotiate, you don’t have any complaints, then what is it for: "unimaginable financial spending, brutal sanctions that destroyed the economy and brought the country to hyperinflation"? Iran itself will deal with the economy and inflation, is already accustomed to "friendliness".
          1. borberd
            borberd 30 November 2020 10: 46
            +3
            We had no complaints about the Persians. These are their complaints against us. Hezbollah was raised on our borders, Hamas and Islamic Jihad. They are forcing them to shoot missiles at our cities. Now in Syria, bases are being built and barmaley people are being transported to our borders.
          2. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 30 November 2020 12: 05
            +6
            Quote: Volodin
            what is this: "unimaginable financial spending, brutal sanctions that destroyed the economy and brought the country to hyperinflation"?

            Sorry, I have no answer to this question. Ayatollahs themselves are evil Buratins.

            Even 40 years ago, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi was in excellent relations with Israel. There was a serious multimillion-dollar trade, dry cargo ships went from Iran to Eilat on regular flights. The large Eilat-Ashkelon oil pipeline was built by Israel together with Iran, and its main purpose was to transport Iranian oil to Europe through the Mediterranean Sea. Tankers leaving the Persian Gulf skirted the Arabian Peninsula and arrived in Eilat, from where Iranian oil was piped to Ashkelon and further to Europe.
            Moreover, this pipeline is safe and sound. Israel uses it for its technical needs. But the payment for its operation is transferred to a special third-party trust fund, in the hope that when relations with Iran change, pay the amounts owed to the partners.


            The 1979 Islamic revolution toppled the Shah, who was forced to leave the country and died in exile in Cairo the following year. In the wake of the reaction against the reforms of the last shahs, Islamic fundamentalists came to power, led by Ayatollah Khomeini.
            Since then, they have been dogging. hi
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 30 November 2020 09: 48
        -6
        Quote: Volodin
        Iran does not want to become another "Syria", "Libya"

        so these were rocked from the inside beforehand. Does Iran seem to have no such problem yet? The regime is politically stable.
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 30 November 2020 10: 11
          +2
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          so these were rocked from the inside beforehand.

          The buildup from the inside, as you well know, usually does not happen without external support.
      3. atalef
        atalef 30 November 2020 11: 46
        +8
        Quote: Volodin
        Iran does not want to become another "Syria", "Libya", "Yugoslavia". After all, "baby Israel" is for this option.

        we are for the option, leave us alone and you will be happy.
        We have no grounds for enmity with Iran, neither territorial, nor economic, or any other claims. What does he want?
        We do not even have a common border and there are 2000 km between us, but he itching to do everything.
        Someone will even justify why the hell did he get to the bottom of us? Under the shah we lived wonderful and were great friends, the ayatollahs came and oops --- are we enemy number one?
        Maybe they should dig inside themselves?
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 30 November 2020 09: 36
      +3
      Religious hate she is
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 30 November 2020 10: 12
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In general, if you think about it a little, then the greatest doubts are caused by the reason why Iran is so eager to acquire nuclear weapons. Because of her, he went to the hardest sacrifices: unimaginable financial spending, brutal sanctions that destroyed the economy and brought the country to hyperinflation, immeasurable political losses that turned Iran into an outcast ... So, why so much effort?

      Maybe for your own safety? Example From Korea is indicative, no matter how the Americans puffed their cheeks, but the country was left alone. The choice may be controversial, but quite viable.
      1. borberd
        borberd 30 November 2020 10: 53
        -3
        If the Iranians have nuclear weapons, they will soon have both the Saudis and the Turks. And then at the barmaley. Do you need it in Syria?
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 30 November 2020 11: 11
          0
          Quote: borberd
          If the Iranians have nuclear weapons, they will soon have both the Saudis and the Turks. And then at the barmaley. Do you need it in Syria?

          Us? The fact is that the origin of raw materials for a nuclear charge can be established with an accuracy of 100%, raw materials are like a passport. You cannot enrich Uranium on your knees, this is a huge complex and very serious investments. Therefore, if the barmaleevs have nuclear weapons, then the problems are with the suppliers of uranium and technology it is easier for barmale to poison the population with chlorine
          1. borberd
            borberd 30 November 2020 12: 00
            +5
            What are these problems? Someone will say to the Iranians, Saudis or Turks ... - Well, well, wave a finger? Really ? Do you believe it? Yes, they will score on those who wave their fingers at them, and continue to supply their hand-held barmaley. Just as they do now.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 30 November 2020 12: 14
              -4
              Quote: borberd
              What are these problems? Someone will say to Iranians, Saudis or Turks ... - Well, well, wave a finger? Really ? Do you believe it?

              The proliferation of nuclear technologies is severely punished. Many countries will oppose. You are not surprised at the pressure on Iran on the nuclear program, and you will not be pressured on the barmaley.
              1. borberd
                borberd 30 November 2020 15: 16
                +3
                I've already seen how it is punished. The IAEA and the UN, incapable of anything, could not do anything with Iran, and they did not want to. Sanctions? Really ? For a long time, no one accepts or supports them without the United States. Europe signed the "nuclear deal" under Obama and traded with Iran with might and main, turning a blind eye to evidence that the Iranians continue to develop a bomb and terrorize their neighbors. Russia is still trading with Iran and supplying it with weapons. I'm not talking about the Chinese, they are insolently supplying the Iranians with military technology and did not care about the sanctions from the UN or anyone else. In today's world, money decides everything, so when the Saudis want a bomb, they will get it and they will get nothing for it.
              2. Dikson
                Dikson 30 November 2020 16: 01
                +3
                Tell the Pakistanis .. how and by whom it is punished ..)
            2. surfdude
              surfdude 30 November 2020 12: 22
              +4
              You can refuse to buy Turkish tomatoes for at least a couple of weeks!
          2. atalef
            atalef 30 November 2020 14: 36
            +4
            Quote: APASUS
            Therefore, if nuclear weapons appear in the barmaleevs, then problems with uranium suppliers and technologies are inevitable

            Sure?
            Korea did not create Yao itself, but what about the problems with the builders of the reactor for the friendly Korean people?
            In Iran, the first centrifuges were sold by Khan, the Pakistani father of Yao-i ....
            When the barmaley has yao, it will be too late to drink Borjomi
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 30 November 2020 14: 57
              0
              Quote: atalef
              Sure?
              Korea did not create Yao itself, but what about the problems with the builders of the reactor for the friendly Korean people?
              In Iran, the first centrifuges were sold by Khan, the Pakistani father of Yao-i ....
              When the barmaley has yao, it will be too late to drink Borjomi

              Not sure 100 of course. Under the Shah, it was the United States that carried enriched plutonium to Iran. So it is with the barmaley, if they are yours, who will punish them. You were not punished for possession of nuclear weapons.
              1. borberd
                borberd 30 November 2020 17: 02
                +2
                Only those who signed the NPT, taught their students nuclear physics at Cern, and then secretly began to rivet a bomb, can be punished. Israel did nothing of the kind. And Israel got the bomb a few years before the creation of the NPT. But the Persians signed, trained and secretly make a bomb. But as it turned out, they are not punished too much.
                1. APASUS
                  APASUS 30 November 2020 17: 05
                  -2
                  Quote: borberd
                  Only those who signed the NPT, taught their students nuclear physics at Cern, and then secretly began to rivet a bomb, can be punished. Israel did nothing of the kind. And Israel got the bomb a few years before the creation of the NPT. But the Persians signed, trained and secretly make a bomb. But as it turned out, they are not punished too much.

                  Can you put something in addition to words?
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                    1. APASUS
                      APASUS 1 December 2020 09: 39
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                      Quote: borberd
                      And then study, study and study, as the great Lenin bequeathed

                      If you are learning from Wiki, then I'm not surprised ...................
                      In 2012, American researchers conducted a survey among representatives of large corporations, who were supposed to assess the reliability of the information specified in Wikipedia. As a result, it turned out that more than 60% of the articles on the resource were written with gross errors. Mostly the subjects complained about incorrect information related to a particular phenomenon. Moreover, the most false, according to experts, are articles on historical topics.
                      1. borberd
                        borberd 1 December 2020 23: 58
                        0
                        What's wrong with the wiki? Wiki is a squeeze of historical information. In some European countries, wiki information is admitted in court.
                      2. APASUS
                        APASUS 2 December 2020 08: 18
                        0
                        Quote: borberd
                        What's wrong with the wiki? Wiki is a squeeze of historical information. In some European countries, wiki information is admitted in court.

                        Vicky is fine with me as an educational reading and nothing more, and you just learn to work with information.
                        Poor countries that Vicky admits in court.
                        Check out the list of hoaxes from your wiki and this is just what they themselves admit:
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia
                      3. borberd
                        borberd 2 December 2020 12: 50
                        0
                        I don't remember whether in Sweden or in Norway the data from the wiki is recognized by the court. It is difficult to call them poor. You can find the information that I gave you in other sources, which will only confirm the information from the wiki.
                      4. APASUS
                        APASUS 2 December 2020 13: 03
                        0
                        Quote: borberd
                        I don't remember whether in Sweden or in Norway the data from the wiki is recognized by the court. It is difficult to call them poor.

                        A lie repeated twice becomes true!
                        Andrey Mironov, PhD in Chemistry, opened an article on syngony and saw one mistake that had been there since the times of the USSR and is still present even in some chemistry textbooks. He specifically registered and fixed the error, but the next day he found the article unchanged. As a result, the one who returned the article to its original form began to refer to textbooks and ignored Mironov's sources. And since there are in fact links, the moderators cannot do anything - even if the information on the links is outdated or incorrect.
                      5. borberd
                        borberd 2 December 2020 15: 05
                        0
                        You say a lot of beautiful words that are worthless. Can you say what I said so “false” and what is so false about Iran and the NPT?
                      6. APASUS
                        APASUS 2 December 2020 15: 49
                        0
                        Quote: borberd
                        You say a lot of beautiful words that are worthless.

                        Why not? The links to the Wiki as a source of truthful information are ridiculous. There is no link to a serious source proving your theory.
                        Quote: borberd
                        Can you say what I said so “false” and what is so false about Iran and the NPT?

                        You are not lying, you are simply avoiding the answer, and the questions are quite specific.
                      7. borberd
                        borberd 2 December 2020 17: 05
                        0
                        Is this trolling like that? request How easy it is to make you laugh - opened Wikipedia and laugh. Free, and most importantly useful for health, though only for the physical, not useful for the soul ..., not at all useful. Well, okay, I'm not going to convince you to look for well-known facts. You do not want to expand your horizons, especially in the topic on which you are trying to argue, your business.
                      8. APASUS
                        APASUS 2 December 2020 20: 58
                        0
                        Quote: borberd
                        How easy it is to make you laugh - opened Wikipedia and laugh. Free, and most importantly useful for health, though only for the physical, not useful for the soul ..., not at all useful

                        Well done, got out well, made a joke!
                        Quote: borberd
                        ... Well, okay, I'm not going to convince you to look for well-known facts.

                        Facts ? What are the facts? You published something, in support of your words ............

                        Quote: borberd
                        You do not want to expand your horizons, especially in the topic on which you are trying to argue, your business.

                        And you are not sick, good luck hi
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  • brr1
    brr1 30 November 2020 17: 23
    -2
    Quote: borberd
    If the Iranians have nuclear weapons, they will soon have both the Saudis and the Turks. And then at the barmaley. Do you need it in Syria?

    Well, then you finally crash each other and bang everything. You have mutual love there. Do not hold back unequivocally.
  • faiver
    faiver 30 November 2020 10: 26
    +5
    the reason why Iran is so eager to acquire nuclear weapons is questionable
    - the salt is that baby Israel has this weapon ...
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 1 December 2020 01: 06
    +1
    Quote: A. Privalov
    In general, if you think about it a little, then the greatest doubts are caused by the reason why Iran is so eager to acquire nuclear weapons. Because of her, he went to the hardest sacrifices: unimaginable financial spending, brutal sanctions that destroyed the economy and brought the country to hyperinflation, immeasurable political losses that turned Iran into an outcast ... So, why so much effort? For the sake of the annihilation of little Israel declared by the ayatols at every corner?

    Cause? Iran has been tinkering with Iraq for 8-9 years, which the Americans rolled out in a couple of months. After that, in 92, it was decided to start a nuclear project so that they would not be destroyed in the same way as Hussein.
  • Nychego
    Nychego 30 November 2020 08: 50
    -2
    Eh, Cyrus, Cyrus ... That's why you missed this bifurcation point and allowed the Jews to return to their lands? A radically different solution would not have existed for the entire chain of Abrahamic religions, but now the descendants of your people would not perish at the hands of the descendants of those very Jews.
  • borberd
    borberd 30 November 2020 09: 26
    +4
    But what about the initial versions of the suicide bomber explosion, after which the valiant bodyguards killed 5 attackers in a shootout and took one prisoner. If they fired remotely from a machine gun, then to whom did they make a composite sketch, and whose signs are they being sent?
    1. Mikhail Ya2
      Mikhail Ya2 30 November 2020 09: 44
      +1
      So they said, this is a photo of a robot that was shooting :)
      1. borberd
        borberd 30 November 2020 09: 49
        +1
        Right now, Schwarzenegger tensed in his villa. laughing
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 November 2020 10: 42
      +5
      "then for whom they made a composite sketch" ///
      ----
      Haven't you read the article? We made a composite sketch for a machine gun.
      Which exploded after shooting in a mined car.
      The machine gun has already spoken during interrogations.
      1. Kelwin
        Kelwin 30 November 2020 14: 12
        +3
        Not) the remote control in the car exploded, the machine gun went out, its composite is giving readings. So it seems))
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 30 November 2020 09: 42
    +6
    The guards' version made me happy - a client came out of the bombed car to see "what happened." It's hard to see from the armored car.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 30 November 2020 11: 34
      +1
      The security is his relatives, not professionals. I would stay in the car, survive. Stupidly died.
  • iouris
    iouris 30 November 2020 10: 20
    0
    This is a failure. And this is a signal (whoever does not understand will understand). But with Kim it is impossible. Not yet possible.
  • DOC
    DOC 30 November 2020 10: 45
    0
    Iran can only respond after Trump leaves. The country understands that the murder of a scientist is a serious provocation, behind which lies a desire to provoke Tehran to an immediate response and give Trump a reason to launch a military strike at the end of his term, especially since many US presidents “commit very rash acts before resigning”.
  • Pushkowed
    Pushkowed 30 November 2020 10: 52
    +1
    A scientist in an armored car, with two security vehicles and a crowd of bodyguards. Such a humble Iranian scientist ... First of all, he is a state official, and only then, concurrently - everything else.

    An absolutely unrealistic version of what happened. As if the organizers, and the performers, and the bodyguards, and the "scientist" himself suddenly had an acute attack of mental deficiency.

    Obviously, the Iranians are holding back something. They are very clumsy trying to hide something.
  • anjey anjey
    anjey anjey 30 November 2020 11: 39
    +3
    Quote: Pushkowed
    A scientist in an armored car, with two security vehicles and a crowd of bodyguards. Such a humble Iranian scientist ... First of all, he is a state official, and only then, concurrently - everything else.

    An absolutely unrealistic version of what happened. As if the organizers, and the performers, and the bodyguards, and the "scientist" himself suddenly had an acute attack of mental deficiency.

    Obviously, the Iranians are holding back something. They are very clumsy trying to hide something.


    Initially, photos of the first minutes after the shelling appeared on the network - Fakhrizad sits in the car as if he were alive (there are only a lot of holes in him). Then these photos disappeared and a version about 5 attackers appeared. Two days later - a new version about a remotely controlled machine gun ... In short, the story is very, very dark. Someone has seriously lied to.
  • bogart047
    bogart047 30 November 2020 12: 08
    +1
    on the face - a gross mistake of the security service. Persians, Arabs are lazy Abizyans who don't want to learn anything
  • Shahno
    Shahno 30 November 2020 12: 33
    +2
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Bravo to the intelligence who carried it out.

    Do you like it when Iranian scientists are killed? belay
    Yes, my friend is not much different from the SS of Hitler's Germany ..

    I understand that the person was talking about the professional side, not the moral. I would certainly not be happy about this elimination. All the same, he was not a terrorist. He was a threat, yes. But...
    Personally, I would not give an order to eliminate ... There are other ways to neutralize the threat, more calm. Here's an explicit demo.
  • Old26
    Old26 30 November 2020 17: 47
    +3
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Persians are like a bone in the throat to the same Ships, Turks, USA.
    The Turks and Americans officially disowned this terrorist attack by condemning it ... it means that either the Saudis or the Jews, and both are silent ... it means that it is logical that they worked in pairs.

    Yeah, logic. if they are silent, they worked in pairs. Well, is there a half-day lesson who will take and write in his blog that, judging by the handwriting, the performers were trained in the camps of the GRU (or FSB)? We will not react to this in any way? Then, according to your logic, it turns out that since we did not say anything, we worked together with the Saudis and Israelis to eliminate the atomic scientist? laughing

    Here, even no one can say exactly how it all happened. Either the car is armored, then the car is not armored (in the photo it stands in general with shattered glass - what is it like? The body is armored, and the glasses are stitched with bullets?). Either the physics machine was attacked by several people, or the attack was carried out remotely. Either the atomic scientist died on the spot, dying of his wounds, then he died already in the hospital. Either two of the attackers were killed, and one was captured, then no one was there.
    And if no one was there and the destruction took place remotely, then where are the portraits (composite images) of possible participants from? In short, nothing is clear there at all, but the last one has already been appointed - Israel

    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Fakhrizade did not kill people, did not torture them, and there was no moral need to kill him.

    Didn't kill, that's for sure. And I didn't. But his brainchild could easily kill tens of thousands, being blown up over any city. Destroyed this Iranian atomic physicist, reducing the threat to themselves - that means they completed the task. And this speaks of the capabilities and, most importantly, the professionalism of the special service that carried out this act. And to argue morally or immoral is to crush water in a mortar .. Most often in all countries the principle operates: if it is useful for you, it is morally, if it is immoral against you ...
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 30 November 2020 19: 20
    0
    * After the first shots he got out of the car, because he didn't understand what had happened ... "Judging by the result, he never understood anything in his life before.
  • karima
    karima 30 November 2020 21: 10
    0
    Quote: Old26
    Either the vehicle is armored, then the vehicle is not armored
    Armored against what? A pistol? Machine gun? Machine gun? Cannons? Well, you get the idea. Let's wait, the picture will clear up. Either the attackers will tell you, or something else will come out.