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"Germany has lost leadership in the EU": the Greek Foreign Ministry comments on Germany's refusal of the arms embargo on Turkey

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Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Dendias said Germany had lost its leadership in the EU. This is how the Greek Foreign Ministry commented on Germany's refusal of the arms embargo against Turkey.

Dendias told about this in an interview with Politico.

I really don't understand Germany's reluctance to use the immense power of its economy to show countries that they must obey international law.

- considers the head of the Greek Foreign Ministry.

In connection with the growing tension in the Eastern Mediterranean region, Athens turned to the EU countries, demanding a ban on arms sales to Ankara. They believe that there is a possibility of using this weapons Turkey against two European states - Greece and Cyprus, if the territorial dispute enters a hot phase.

In particular, Athens demanded to cancel the delivery of six type 214 submarines made in Germany, which had been ordered earlier by Ankara. Greece believes that the appearance of these submarines in service with Turkey will create an imbalance of power in the region.

Dendias understands that the embargo runs counter to the financial interests of Germany, but here we are talking about the supply of offensive weapons to the state, which, according to the head of the Greek Foreign Ministry, threatens Greece and Cyprus, two countries of the European Union.

And although Turkey and Greece are part of the North Atlantic Alliance, nominally considered allies, recently territorial differences between them have reached their peak.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 November 2020 16: 21
    +10
    As it is unexpectedly. Another one appeared dissatisfied with Germany, probably the time has come to pay off the debts. They agreed with Poland? fellow
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 29 November 2020 16: 55
      +9
      This is the question - who owes whom. At the expense of Germany, the European Union evened out the gap between Greece and the leading countries of the European Union through its budget. And Germany carries out budgetary contributions to the common treasury of Europe from such beneficial things as the sale of weapons to Turkey. Can Greece live today without EU subsidies? Probably not. The same is with Cyprus. repeat
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 29 November 2020 17: 42
        +5
        In particular, Athens demanded to cancel the delivery of six type 214 submarines made in Germany, which had been ordered earlier by Ankara. Greece believes that the appearance of these submarines in service with Turkey will create an imbalance of power in the region.

        Dendias understands that the embargo runs counter to the financial interests of Germany, but here we are talking about the supply of offensive weapons to the state, which, according to the head of the Greek Foreign Ministry, threatens Greece and Cyprus, two countries of the European Union.

        This is an example of the fact that the capitalist world is governed not so much by national states as by transnational corporations.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 29 November 2020 23: 50
          0
          Germany and the Turks were almost always allies.
          And only US demands forced the Germans to restrict trade.
          But now is the right moment, the US is focusing on domestic issues. So the embargo was lifted.
          Well, the Greeks are always at odds with the Turks. True, they are usually at odds with logic, and do not blame the one who finances their economy. It is one thing when the yellow press is dung in everyone, and another when the Minister of Foreign Affairs does it.
      2. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 30 November 2020 08: 42
        +1
        At the expense of Germany, the European Union equalized the gap between Greece and the leading countries

        Or maybe the other way around? When the Greeks entered the EU, they had world-class shipbuilding and developed agriculture. It was a completely developed country, despite the remnants of the Turkish yoke. And now there is nothing.
    2. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 29 November 2020 16: 59
      +20
      So I recall the words of Joseph Schweik from the immortal novel by Jaroslav Hasek: "But maybe the Turks will stand up for Germany ... These are such scoundrels who are always at the same time with the Germans ... But then we will incite Russia against them! There will be a fight!"
      Although Schweik did not receive the proper diplomatic education, his predictions are already coming true in the 21st century!
      Hasek smiles sadly from heaven ... crying
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 29 November 2020 20: 05
        +1
        A gorgeous book, I happened to read in my youth.
        1. Paul Siebert
          Paul Siebert 29 November 2020 20: 13
          +2
          I remember it almost by heart.
          I'm going with her through life ...))) wink
    3. Alex777
      Alex777 29 November 2020 18: 12
      +1
      What's unexpected? 6 boats of 214 design - great power.
      And it would be nice for us if Germany canceled the delivery.
      However, at the present time everyone needs money and there is little chance.
      So the Greeks will have to buy something too, if possible.
  2. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 29 November 2020 16: 21
    +3
    greece ... hospade ... greece criticizes someone ...! how to live after that ... (hand-face) not that time was found? otherwise, rest ... rest ..
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 29 November 2020 17: 00
      +11
      Gerald Darrell, in one of his books on nature, described the life of modern Greeks. They work without strain, interrupting for a decent day's rest with a taste of wines. They only serve tourists and cut coupons from the Greek flag, under which many still go. The Greek economy is no longer capable of anything else. hi
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 29 November 2020 20: 12
        +1
        It is not the economy that is not capable, it is the Greeks who have become political and economic impotent, but the economy is a consequence. Forgot your history.
  3. svp67
    svp67 29 November 2020 16: 22
    +7
    "Germany has lost leadership in the EU": the Greek Foreign Ministry comments on Germany's refusal of the arms embargo on Turkey
    I hope they will not forget to remind this at the moment when they ask Germany for the next money ...
  4. Dart2027
    Dart2027 29 November 2020 16: 22
    +2
    What does Germany care about Greece's problems?
    1. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 17: 08
      +1
      She credits them. The EU is mainly Germany - the EU provides loans to Greece.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 29 November 2020 18: 19
        0
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        She credits them.

        And how will this affect the butting of Greece and Turkey? It seems to me not.
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 29 November 2020 18: 25
      +2
      Quote: Dart2027
      What does Germany care about Greece's problems?

      You can remember this spring when Italians were fighting the coronavirus, whom they blamed most - Germany. In March, according to a poll, 67% said that staying in the EU harms Italy rather than helps. "what does Germany matter" - it wants to keep the EU and as a leader all the "bigwigs" are on it. Italy received a good amount from the recovery fund and the case was hushed up, with the Greeks ... let's see ...
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 29 November 2020 19: 33
        0
        Quote: BrTurin
        received a good amount from the recovery fund

        Which was created for this. Here it is somewhat different, but the pan-European army never appeared
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 29 November 2020 20: 58
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          Here it is somewhat different, but the pan-European army never appeared

          The pan-European army is more likely independence from the states, and then the internal squabbles of the EU. France, which is still trying to become the leader of the EU, supports Greece and Cyprus and is threatened with sanctions by Turkey, and Germany ...
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 30 November 2020 19: 30
            +1
            Quote: BrTurin
            and here is an internal showdown

            So Turkey is not in the EU.
            Quote: BrTurin
            France, which is still trying to become the leader of the EU, supports Greece and Cyprus and faces a sanction from Turkey

            Perhaps, but this does not change the fact that the Greeks' problems concern them only as a tool for solving their own problems.
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 30 November 2020 19: 42
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              So Turkey is not in the EU.

              Thus, the Greeks appeal to Germany not as a NATO member, but as the leader of the EU.
              Quote: Dart2027
              Greeks' problems concern them only as a tool for solving their own problems

              so the Greeks are trying to "sell" themselves more expensive in this confrontation for leadership
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 30 November 2020 22: 55
                0
                Quote: BrTurin
                appeal to Germany not as a NATO member, but as the leader of the EU

                What I mean is that this is not an internal showdown of the EU, which Turkey is not part of.
                Quote: BrTurin
                so the Greeks are trying to "sell" themselves more expensive

                Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Germany has already bought everything it needs.
    3. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 29 November 2020 18: 29
      0
      "What does Germany care about Greece's problems?" If the next Greco-Turkish war begins (not a zero probability), Germany will have to rake it out, as the leader of the European Union. Well, if the Germans are squeezed into the bushes, and the USA, France or Russia have to intervene, then the authority of the Germans will greatly decline.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 29 November 2020 19: 31
        +1
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        to rake it, as the leader of the European Union, Germany will have

        In theory. In practice, this can only be done by military means, and Germany does not have an army (that is, it is not an army), so in any case, the sale of these submarines will not change anything. Now Germany is engaged in economic expansion, theoretically it can and will be able to put pressure on Turkey economically, but again, these submarines do not matter.
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 29 November 2020 16: 29
    +5
    Why should the Germans tear up multibillion-dollar contracts for the sake of Greek squabbling with the Turks over the shelf? If only they pressed on because of a puddle, as in the case of the Mistrals, then it is possible, but in Washington, right now, in general, they look at everything with half an eye, there are their own hemorrhoids ...
    1. Antifreeze
      Antifreeze 29 November 2020 16: 40
      +16
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Why should the Germans break multibillion-dollar contracts?

      That's right, the Germans make money.
      If only they pressed on because of a puddle, as in the case of the Mistrals, then it is possible

      If the Germans sold the Russians belay - then they would have pressed. And the Turks can ...
  6. iouris
    iouris 29 November 2020 16: 34
    +1
    Turkey is very nada. And in Greece, everything is there.
  7. marchcat
    marchcat 29 November 2020 17: 01
    0
    If Greece had something to sell, there would be no such claims to Germany.
  8. Alien From
    Alien From 29 November 2020 17: 31
    +1
    The Turks are holding on to Merkel's causal place.
  9. Wolf
    Wolf 29 November 2020 17: 40
    +3
    The interests of Germany, the USA, England, Turkey and Israel are the same in the case of the BV, the Caucasus, and South-East Europe. When we talk about powers, I think about tzv. "Elite" is a deep state that rules its long-term interests. Turkey was raised economically in the last 30 years by Germany in the first place, then by the USA, Japan by the US tax. The economic strength is FINANCIAL, started with the stamping of € and the expansion of € to the most economically strong states in Europe. Until the age of 30, the Turks even zpr. in Izmir lived at the level of NORTH Africa.
    Inquire who can live for what raised the economy of Turkey can be seen today in the Caucasus and the BV.
    The German "elita" which DOES NOT HAVE ANY SWEET WITH THE PEOPLE OF GERMANY FULFILLS HITLER'S PLANS ONLY DO NOT FIGHT BY WAY !!! wink
    Already in Germany they are preparing to strengthen the army and ochim.
    As for Greece, to the fathoms, both them and the Bulgars will be destroyed in the same place with the Turks.
    So the Turks and Israel receive a submarine from Germany as a gift. Is the Greek "Elita" either not betraying or simply betraying its people? Already one aggression on Kipar was issued strategically by NATO in southeastern Europe and BV now in the Caucasus!
    One of the Turks can expect a knife in the back in the best moment!
    As far as the Bulgarov brothers are concerned, you are not worried, you have received a lossless 29 billion €
    you can eat well until the Turks populate Bulgari with thugs.
    As for the debt of Greece to Germany and the EU, it was simply money laundering, artificial debt and the transformation of Greece into debtor slavery, and the Greek treacherous "Elite" Kotor got a percentage of that.
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 29 November 2020 17: 58
      +3
      And as far as Greece is concerned, the Greeks should think the people will understand how much of the production of Syria on the side of the EU, the United States, Japan was opened in Turkey and how many in Greece, and everything will be clear. As for the debt, the dengue simply cooled through the Greek government accounts and returned from where it came, with the interest that the "Greek Elite" took away. In my opinion, Greece can calmly unsubscribe for 90% of the debt as an international financial crime and refuse to return. Tzv. EU loans to Greece were in fact just a robbery of Greece!
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 30 November 2020 00: 00
        +1
        The European Union has really robbed the Greeks. Where are the Greek shipbuilders? Where are the 13 and sometimes 14 salaries. But all this was recently. The European Union only needs an amorphous mass of consumers, and no individuals. It's easier to manage.
  10. Ensign19
    Ensign19 29 November 2020 17: 44
    0
    In Greece there is a large Armenian diaspora, plus a territorial dispute, in Germany, a rich Turkish one.
    Hence the difference in views and decisions
    1. Hello from Baku
      Hello from Baku 29 November 2020 18: 01
      +2
      The Armenian diaspora is useless for them to hate the Turks, the troubles of the Greeks and the Turks are worse than the Armenian ones.
      1. Ensign19
        Ensign19 29 November 2020 18: 03
        -1
        It does not interfere
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 30 November 2020 00: 05
      0
      And the descendants of Alexander the Great, as I understand it, are no longer in Greece? It's a pity! They are no longer descendants!
  11. morpogr
    morpogr 29 November 2020 19: 59
    0
    Eurogegemon is not the same.
  12. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 29 November 2020 22: 11
    +1
    I really don't understand Germany's reluctance to use the immense power of its economy to show countries that they must obey international law.

    It is readily believed that Greece, living in debt, sincerely does not understand about the enormous power of the economy - that it does not appear and is not supported by itself. And in order for it to be, you need to produce and trade (and preferably for real money, and not in debt). And the embargo only hinders this.
    Nothing personal, it's just business. © smile
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 November 2020 01: 16
      0
      The European Union has poured more than 300 billion euros into Greece.
      And completely in vain. It would be simpler: immediately default and
      withdrawal from the Euro zone. With a return to your national drachma.
  13. VyacheSeymour
    VyacheSeymour 30 November 2020 00: 11
    0
    Dendias understands that the embargo runs counter to the financial interests of Germany, but here we are talking about the supply of offensive weapons to the state, which, according to the head of the Greek Foreign Ministry, threatens Greece and Cyprus, two countries of the European Union.

    In Transcaucasia, we have just passed this ...
    Well, the Germans (and the whole world) are simply obliged to fit in, if something happens, for the next very first pro-Christians ...
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 30 November 2020 10: 46
    0
    Money does not smell, if now problems with the economy in Germany begin, then the whole EU is fucked up! Full................
  15. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 November 2020 13: 58
    0
    As long as Turkey has an army of refugees, there will be nothing. And Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Dendias can continue to pose as Zeus the Thunderer laughing
    1. Kuzmitsky
      1 December 2020 18: 41
      0
      In addition, the Turks are going to pay money to Germany (for supplies), and do not ask, like the Greeks, to raise the economy and get out of a difficult situation.