Russian planes are not considered: Argentine Air Force is choosing a new fighter

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JF-17


Recently, the South Korean manufacturer of FA-50 fighters, KAI, refused to sell its fighters to the Argentine Air Force. This raised questions about the possibilities of London, not interested in updating the fleet of its geopolitical rival, to influence potential suppliers trying to work in the interests of Buenos Aires.



British veto


According to the chief of staff of the Argentine Air Force, Javier Isaac, aircraft manufacturers easily succumbed to British pressure, since they doubted the country's financial ability to pay for the purchase of new fighters.

The British veto reaction did not take us by surprise. Because we have long expected this not only from KAI, but also from everyone who offers us products [meaning combat aircraft]
- explained the general.

However, as he points out, the situation has now changed radically. The authorities have adopted a law in accordance with which a program for the localization of the production of military products is being launched.

To implement it, the military-run National Defense Fund (FONDEF) was created in October. It is projected to have a budget of over 2021 billion pesos ($ 34 million) in 420. The funds from it should go to the technical modernization of the troops, and it is planned to carry it out with reliance on the local production base.


JF-17


Not a word about Russia


As Isaac points out, now foreign partners have seen the seriousness of Buenos Aires' intentions, which has shown a willingness to guarantee payment for orders. At the same time, the country's Air Force is studying the possibility of purchasing fighters not in the West, although there are doubts about this alternative.

There are a large number of service providers and service opportunities in the West, but not in the East.
- Isaac declared.

According to him, the Air Force in its choice is to a certain extent constrained by financial constraints, so they cannot afford expensive systems such as the F-16, Gripen and others. The general explained that the purchase of a JF-17 fighter is possible. This Chinese-designed aircraft is produced in Pakistan, which was visited by a special commission of the Air Force in 2017:

We are currently talking about the Block 3 version, which is a completely different aircraft. We're talking about the tech type that the Air Force is looking for.


As the general explains, for the army, the acquisition of this model would be a real breakthrough:

A leap we have never taken. We had a lot of Mirage, we had a lot of A-4 [American Skyhawks]. We never had the last generation aircraft, we had the previous one.


As journalists interviewing noted, "there will always be a British veto."

We perfectly understand those who say that a “non-Western” product is a bad decision. This is a decision that we would not have made, but it is not final [...] We need at least fourth generation combat fighters. If you need to bring them from China, then we will bring them from China.
- explained the head of the Air Force.

At the same time, the question of the possibility of acquiring Russian fighters was not even considered. Apparently, the regime of sanctions imposed on Moscow and the pro-American course of the current Argentine government do not even allow it to be raised.

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  1. -14
    29 November 2020 15: 47
    Well, I didn’t quite understand what relation the impudent have to yu. Rather and Argentina since they obey their decisions. But this same pressure opens a direct path for the Chinese military-industrial complex, and then the same impudent ones will scream that the market in South America has collapsed for them. They saw the tree themselves.
    1. +22
      29 November 2020 16: 06
      The question of the Falklands between Argentina and Great Britain remained unresolved after the bloody conflict. Therefore, Great Britain jealously exposes slingshots so that the enemy does not receive modern weapons - for this it has the ability to influence countries allied to the West, like South Korea .. And in this regard, Argentina's drift and not only, but also some other Latin American countries towards military cooperation with China is inevitable. hi
      1. +2
        29 November 2020 16: 57
        Quote: bessmertniy
        The issue of the Falklands between Argentina and Great Britain remained unresolved after the bloody conflict.

        It remained unresolved only for Argentina, the archipelago belongs to the Crown and Argentina will not do anything about it now or in the future, especially since the United States also needs a "second Gibraltar" in the South Atlantic ...
        On about. Ascension, also located in the South Atlantic, is now hosted by the British and Americans ...
        So, those who decide to drink military aircraft to Argentina will have to deal not only with Great Britain, but also with the United States ...
        1. 0
          1 December 2020 12: 30
          About the future, I wouldn't be so sure. The fall of the dollar is inevitable, as a demobilization, and with such managers as Biden and Boris Johnson, he, the buck, can be booked on the "yellow ticket" ahead of schedule. It will be difficult for the impudent, brewing Doshirak in Buckingham Palace, to defend their interests in the other hemisphere.
          1. -1
            2 December 2020 07: 29
            Quote: Arthur 85
            About the future, I wouldn't be so sure. The fall of the dollar is inevitable, like demobilization,

            In 82, Great Britain was the main "sick" among the countries of Western Europe, which did not prevent the Thatcher government from winning the "war at the end of the world" ...
            1. -1
              2 December 2020 09: 34
              I read somewhere that at that time in England there were 400 combat-ready aircraft, and now there are 80 (I don't know, with or without aircraft carrier aircraft). The answer is offensively simple: ate. And they don't spend the required amount of money on the army, "giving it to pensioners." Therefore, the empire, over which the sun does not set, disappeared and will never be reborn. Scotland is already going out, waiting for Wales, and the Canterbury Mosque in central London by the middle of the century.
              1. -1
                2 December 2020 20: 13
                Quote: Arthur 85
                I read somewhere that at that time in England there were 400 combat-ready aircraft,

                By the end of XV .... + 3 squadrons "Harrier" for each of the three anti-submarine (light) aircraft carriers ("Arc Royale", "Invisible" and "Ilastries") ...
                and now 80 (I don’t know, with or without aircraft carrier wings)

                According to ... according to WIKI: in the Royal Air Force 15 F-35B, 135 Typhoon ....
                Probably with them, tk. as part of the Naval Aviation did not find any combat aircraft ... the F-35B is a carrier-based version with an UHFP, respectively, 15 existing F-35s were for some reason put into the Air Force ... in the plans for the construction of two multi-purpose aircraft carriers with F-35 air wings ...
                Well, okay 15, so 15 (for now) we have not a single 5th generation aircraft in the linear units of the Aerospace Forces ...
                The answer is offensively simple: ate. And they don't spend the required amount of money on the army, "giving it to pensioners."

                Why should they spend so much money on defense in the same volumes as in the years of the Cold War? SSR, ATS no ... who is threatening them, and they will cope with the task of air defense and anti-aircraft defense in the North Atlantic, if, what, and their pilots have more flying time than ours ... have successful experience of combat operations with regular air force / air defense foreign states ...
                Therefore, the empire, over which the sun does not set, disappeared and will never be reborn.

                She is neither the first nor the last ...
                Scotland is already going out, waiting for Wales, and the Canterbury Mosque in central London by the middle of the century.

                Wait, I personally don't care about it in any way ...
                1. -1
                  3 December 2020 08: 55
                  Yes, I lied a little: in long-term plans, a reduction to 80 F-35 ... For some reason, it seems that this is not enough for a country that had 100 dreadnoughts in service 30 years ago, but oh well, the weaker the potential enemy's fleet is and aviation, the easier it is for us to breathe.
    2. +9
      29 November 2020 16: 24
      Quote: evgen1221
      Well, I didn’t quite understand what relation the impudent have to yu. Rather and Argentina since their decisions are obeyed.

      Monetary ... In the world of capital, they are everything.
      In general, there was an article about this on the site already on November 01, 2020, it said that Koreans use English parts, assemblies, assemblies and parts on their planes ... and good for sale, they don't get all this from impudent
    3. 0
      29 November 2020 17: 06
      "Well, I did not quite understand how impudent have to do with yu. Rather and"
      There "some kind of garbage" produced under the license of the Arrogant.
      1. +3
        29 November 2020 18: 56
        Armchairs Martin Baker
    4. +3
      29 November 2020 17: 40
      Well, I didn’t quite understand what relation the impudent have to yu. Rather and Argentina since their decisions are obeyed.


      The Korean aircraft have components supplied from Britain. And some of the technology used in the aircraft has its roots in England. On this basis, they are prohibited.
  2. +1
    29 November 2020 15: 49
    However ... a call for Russia ..
    At the same time, the question of the possibility of acquiring Russian fighters was not even considered.
    1. +18
      29 November 2020 15: 59
      If Argentina buys a Pakistani-assembled Chinese JF-17, then Russia will also earn something, since the Pakistanis prefer Russian engines rather than Chinese clones.
    2. +3
      29 November 2020 16: 00
      Quote: SaLaR
      Russian planes are not considered: Argentine Air Force is choosing a new fighter

      Quote: SaLaR
      However ... a call for Russia ..
      At the same time, the question of the possibility of acquiring Russian fighters was not even considered.

      Yes, this is not a call, this is already a fact, the United States dictates to its neighbors.
    3. DAQ
      0
      29 November 2020 19: 38
      At the same time, the question of the possibility of acquiring Russian fighters was not even considered.

      If they are silent, it does not mean that they are not considered. Quite the opposite.
      Argentines remember very well how in 1982 dozens of outdated aircraft did little to help in battle. And they remember very well how the advanced exoset missiles sank the destroyer Shefield and other ships.
      They will hardly take the Pakistani-assembled Kauno with Chinese electronics for a potential confrontation with the British.
      Dryers 30/35 are just right for them. The radius is good. In the sea battle it is.
      1. +2
        30 November 2020 10: 05
        Did you notice that they are only talking about single-engine aircraft? There is no such thing in Russia
      2. 0
        2 December 2020 20: 25
        "dozens of outdated aircraft were of little help in battle"
        As if it was not really about the planes, more about stupid generals. And the Exosets, yes, come in! If only bombs with fuses.
        Well, the MiG-21 (do I understand correctly that JF-17 is its reincarnation?) It is impossible to classify it as obsolete, of course
        1. DAQ
          +1
          3 December 2020 02: 40
          I remember a British veteran praising the Argentine Air Force. They swooped in from all sides at an extremely low altitude. In principle, they successfully overcame not the weak shipborne air defense of the British. Only the fuses were high-altitude, so the bombs did not explode. But one karyto was sunk without an explosion, bluntly broke through with kinetic energy.
          The British successfully used harier attack aircraft with AIM-9 with an all-aspect head, pukars and super etandars were snatched away only in this way.
          On the Pakistani flying trough only on the parade show-off pounding.
          Watch the video from 4:55
          The Argentines fought, at least not badly, but their weapons were cauno.
    4. +3
      29 November 2020 21: 43
      1) Argentines want cheap planes, i.e. for 30 mults at most ... in such a price category there could only be a moment-29 and that is doubtful
      2) local authorities are licking the heels of the White House ... I wonder how they expect that they will be allowed to buy Chinese planes ..
      1. 0
        30 November 2020 13: 50
        the government has recently changed there. Proamers were defeated in the elections
        1. 0
          30 November 2020 13: 51
          well, not in the subject especially .. maybe there will be a result. we'll see .. while the cars are not in parts, everything can always change
  3. +8
    29 November 2020 15: 51
    Come on, the current Argentine government's course is not at all pro-American. They provided shelter to Evo Morales. Although of course this is not Cuba.
  4. +6
    29 November 2020 15: 59
    Buy from the West, again missiles and bombs will not explode at the right time. With Western weapons Malvin you will not see as your ears, although geographically they are closer to you. If you do not want from us, buy from the Chinese.
  5. +19
    29 November 2020 16: 04
    Apparently, they want to take a cheap single-engine aircraft, with cheap operation.

    It seems that Russia does not have this at all.
    1. +12
      29 November 2020 18: 02
      Praise the Lord that there was still a person who understood the essence of the problem: the boys simply, stupidly, have no money, which means that instead of Glocks, they buy Chinese TTs.
      1. 0
        2 December 2020 20: 29
        Quote: Petrik66
        instead of Glocks, they buy Chinese TTs.

        This is a rather incorrect comparison. Glock just in front of TT in case of war will not give much profit, but with planes a different story
  6. +7
    29 November 2020 16: 07
    Well, money is not the last factor, the Chinese will probably still be cheaper than our instant and su.
  7. 0
    29 November 2020 16: 18
    There is enough money only for JF-17.
    1. +4
      29 November 2020 16: 20
      bull-country
      1. +17
        29 November 2020 16: 49
        Quote: Eugene-Eugene
        bull-country

        This is already becoming the scourge of our time. Hope for oil alone gives nothing
        1. +18
          29 November 2020 17: 01
          And the Argentines, apparently, and meat does not help
  8. +31
    29 November 2020 16: 26
    Honestly, I did not understand why the catchy title of the article.
    The Russian Federation today offers heavy and medium (MiG-29) multifunctional fighters of the "4+" generation. The cheapest, naturally, are MiGs, but even on them, even in the most miserable configuration, the price tag can hardly be less than $ 30 million.
    And the Argentines are considering the JF-17 as a promising machine, which can be safely called "MiG in half" - half as much, half as bad, but also half as cheap. Well ... with whom they are going to fight on it - that's their business. However, the fact is that in the Russian Federation there is simply nothing to offer in return - aircraft of this class are not produced here due to their complete modern professional unsuitability. So what is the point for Argentines to contact us when we obviously do not have the goods they need?
    1. +3
      29 November 2020 17: 11
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      So what is the point for Argentines to contact us when we obviously do not have the goods they need?

      You don't read the periodicals, you can see right away ... Under the previous president, Argentina was going to buy from us a used Su-24 with anti-ship missiles ...
      1. +2
        30 November 2020 06: 32
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Under the previous president, Argentina was going to buy from us a used Su-24 with anti-ship missiles ...

        And what, excuse me? Where does the failed "old-fashioned tactical bombers for food" deal relate to the multifunctional fighter program?
        1. -2
          1 December 2020 00: 22
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          And what, excuse me?

          I will not forgive ...
          Where is the failed deal "old tactical bombers with exhausted resource in exchange for food"

          There has never been such a deal, this is a figment of your imagination ...
          But Argentina was going to buy or rent from us the Su-24 as an anti-ship missile carrier ...
          to the program for the purchase of multifunctional fighters

          Again your fantasies ... there is not a word in the article about multifunctional fighters ...
          1. 0
            1 December 2020 06: 36
            Quote: Lara Croft
            I will not forgive ...

            Well, it's neither cold nor hot for me :)
            Quote: Lara Croft
            There has never been such a deal, this is a figment of your imagination ...
            But Argentina was going to buy or rent from us the Su-24 as an anti-ship missile carrier ...

            fool The urge to object so strongly that you could not read it? They wrote to you in Russian in white
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            failed the deal "old tactical bombers with a depleted resource in exchange for food"

            What deal is my imagination? :))
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Again your fantasies ... there is not a word in the article about multifunctional fighters ...

            Uh-huh. Neither the mentioned F-16, nor the JF-17 are such laughing
            1. -2
              1 December 2020 11: 47
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

              Quote: Lara Croft
              There has never been such a deal, this is a figment of your imagination ...
              But Argentina was going to buy or rent from us the Su-24 as an anti-ship missile carrier ...

              fool The urge to object so strongly that you could not read it? They wrote to you in Russian in white
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              failed the deal "old tactical bombers with a depleted resource in exchange for food"

              What deal is my imagination? :))

              Why are you referring to me your comment as a source, lying yourself, and then referring to this lies as a source of truth? fool
              Uh-huh. Neither the mentioned F-16, nor the JF-17 are such

              Which ones exactly? F-16 has many modifications.
              Only F-16E / F Block 60 is a multifunctional ...
              Lockheed Martin F-16E / F Block 60 Desert Falcon - one of the latest aircraft modifications, is a multifunctional fighter. He first took to the skies in 2003. It is designed to deliver high-precision weapons strikes against ground targets, regardless of the time of day and weather, in the face of tough opposition from enemy air defenses. Has enlarged fuel tanks and APG-80 radar

              JF-17 fighter-bomber ....
              Google to help ... young man and do not be rude to elders ... angry
              1. +1
                1 December 2020 12: 12
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Why are you referring to me your comment as a source, lying yourself, and then referring to this lies as a source of truth?

                For people who cannot add 2 + 2, I explain it on my fingers. You wrote to us
                Quote: Lara Croft
                There has never been such a deal, this is a figment of your imagination ...
                But Argentina was going to buy or rent from us the Su-24 as an anti-ship missile carrier ...

                That is, you yourself acknowledge the fact that Argentina is striving to purchase (rent) the Su-24 from us. I write about this fact as a failed deal. You - reproach me for lying.
                What did I lie about?
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Which ones exactly? F-16 has many modifications.
                Only the F-16E / F Block 60 is a multifunctional ...

                fool
                Before copying and pasting, you will learn to read your own links
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Lockheed Martin F-16E / F Block 60 Desert Falcon - one of the latest aircraft modifications, is a multifunctional fighter.

                How does the fact that Block 60 is multifunctional prove that previous modifications were not multifunctional? Does such a thing as "logic" mean anything to you?
                Closing topic
                General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon - lightweight multifunction American fighter 4-generation, the development of which involved the company General Dynamics.
                More details at: https://avia.pro/blog/f-16

                Quote: Lara Croft
                JF-17 fighter-bomber ....

                officially it is a multirole combat aircraft, that is, multipurpose, but taking into account the fact that The JF-17 can be used for multiple roles, including interception, ground attack, anti-ship, and aerial reconnaissance. I mean
                The JF-17 can be used for several functions, including interception, ground attack, anti-ship and aerial reconnaissance.

                in fact, it is positioned as multifunctional.
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Google to help ... young man and do not be rude to elders ...

                Grandpa, to teach materiel - march around! You can give honor in motion
                1. -1
                  1 December 2020 18: 58
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk (Andrei)For people who cannot add 2 + 2

                  You mean yourself?
                  That is, you yourself acknowledge the fact that Argentina is striving to purchase (rent) the Su-24 from us.

                  Absolutely.
                  What did I lie about?

                  In that:
                  deal "old tactical bombers with a depleted resource in exchange for food"

                  Before copying and pasting, you will learn to read your own links

                  I did not give any links, so learn yourself ...
                  Does the fact that Block 60 are multifunctional proves that previous modifications were not multifunctional?

                  I just wrote that this particular model (F-16E / F Block 60), according to VIKI, among other F-16 models, is indicated as multifunctional ... you have not proven the opposite ...
                  in fact, it is positioned as multifunctional.

                  positioned by whom? you?
                  You can give honor in motion
                  to whom? if a
                  march around!

                  It's good that you are not a regular soldier, otherwise you would not command us here ...
                  learn materiel

                  start with the drill regulations ... they will distribute shoulder straps to everyone who does not need ...
                  1. +1
                    2 December 2020 06: 36
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    the deal "old tactical bombers with a depleted resource in exchange for food"

                    And what was false? "Don't go into yourself, mechanic, they will find you there in no time."
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    I did not give any links

                    You gave copy-paste from Airvar
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    I just wrote that this particular model (F-16E / F Block 60), according to VIKI, among other F-16 models, is indicated as multifunctional ... you have not proven the opposite ...

                    And, of course, that is, you could not even get to the original source of your own copy-paste.
                    It turns out interesting - the link I gave to avia.pro is not proof, but yours, on the wiki it is proof.
                    Double standards, they are so double ...
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    positioned by whom? you?

                    No, just an English-language wiki.
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    to whom?

                    That is, the joke about "giving honor in motion" (hint: which is usually applied to female military personnel) is unknown to you. Sorry:)))
            2. 0
              2 December 2020 20: 40
              Su-24 as an anti-ship missile carrier ...
              Do not consider it a moron and excuse me for leaving the topic - do we have the SU-24 in the modification of the anti-ship missile carrier? And the extra ones? I'm not quite in the subject, please enlighten
              1. 0
                3 December 2020 06: 33
                Quote: Bobik012
                Do not consider it a moron and excuse me for leaving the topic - do we have the SU-24 in the modification of the anti-ship missile carrier? And the extra ones?

                My opponent left the topic, and you are returning the discussion to it :)))) I think everything is simple here. The Su-24 can carry the Kh-58, and it has an anti-ship variant. And as for the extra ones ... some of the aircraft have now gone through modernization, but there were also decommissioned ones, and if someone had paid in those years, yes, they could not have written off but modernized for export
    2. +1
      30 November 2020 01: 02
      The JF-17 Block 3 is a 2019 model with an AFAR KLJ-7A and a wide-angle holographic display.
      Is there a MiG-29 with AFAR?
      1. +1
        30 November 2020 06: 32
        Quote: Torvlobnor IV
        Is there a MiG-29 with AFAR?

        No. AND?
        Osspadya ... Another "AFAR witness". In your opinion, this is a means that zeroes the quality of an aircraft that does not have AFAR? Maybe for a change, master the comparison of the performance characteristics of the KLJ-7A with the Migovskaya radar?
    3. +2
      30 November 2020 10: 58
      Well, I would buy a Yak-130. And a small and inexpensive stormtrooper. although twin engine however wassat
      1. +3
        30 November 2020 12: 00
        Well, I would buy a Yak-130. And a small and inexpensive stormtrooper.

        Why would they need a training plane without a radar?
      2. 0
        30 November 2020 14: 44
        Quote: Klingon
        Well, I would buy a Yak-130. And a small and inexpensive stormtrooper. although twin engine however wassat

        Start with a Russian training aircraft. Moreover, the version of the attack aircraft was being worked out.
        1. 0
          1 December 2020 12: 14
          Quote: Pavel57
          Start with a Russian training aircraft.

          They don't have to start, they want a cheap MFI, not a shabby stormtrooper. The Yak-130 is a highly specialized training aircraft capable of emulating the features of the 4 ++ generations. As an attack aircraft, he is no better (or even worse) than the propeller-driven Pukara.
  9. 0
    29 November 2020 16: 54
    And it seems like recently information has passed that the quality of these Sino-Pakistani aircraft leaves much to be desired?
    And in the construction of the jamb, and the materials are not the most suitable, etc. etc....
  10. +5
    29 November 2020 17: 03
    At 7 hi from Argentina.
    "The real war begins suddenly" ©
    Our president likes to surprise.
    "everyone" here was waiting for a vaccine from England ........................
    Suddenly they announced that they had purchased (already) Russian.
    About aircraft ..........
    A surprise is waiting for the impudent one.
  11. -8
    29 November 2020 17: 24
    Very revealing. Even the third world turns up its nose from Russia. Matches perfectly with some promises of a decade of bright victories.
  12. +2
    29 November 2020 17: 30
    The Chinese will sell them, what is there to guess ...
  13. +4
    29 November 2020 17: 47
    If f16 is expensive for them ... then only China with FT17 or J10 ... and they are calculated with beef
    1. +2
      30 November 2020 04: 42
      Quote: Zaurbek
      If f16 is expensive for them ... then only China with FT17 or J10 ... and they are calculated with beef

      Chinese hawala pork more and more, who have money. And who does not have, everyone is still sitting on rice. The absolute majority cannot afford beef.
      1. +2
        30 November 2020 07: 10
        They all eat. Will sell planes well, switch to beef
  14. -3
    29 November 2020 18: 00
    They have a huge experience in supplying weapons from France, even if they continue to buy, well, missiles do not fly, this is a trifle.
    1. +2
      29 November 2020 23: 57
      Why don't rockets fly?
      Exocet is quite a flying rocket ...
      Mirage 2000-9 is quite a good airplane .... Expensive? - so the miser pays twice or thrice.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSDvos3Tmes
      But you still can't collect babos ...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JirMgl5oi4c
      1. 0
        30 November 2020 02: 33
        That is why they do not fly because when a real war begins, the Franks sell secret information about their weapons to their allies, such as missile launch codes. Didn't you know?
        Or the mistral story? In their right mind, would anyone buy weapons from them for the war? No, for cutting the French price list is the most ...)
      2. 0
        30 November 2020 07: 42
        And you read about the war between Argentina and the WB, when the Exocets did not want to fly because the French blocked it, the same happened with many weapons systems purchased from NATO countries. They may be good planes, but it depends with whom Argentina will fight.
  15. 0
    29 November 2020 18: 03
    You can buy a more modern aircraft from China - the J-10C, which is about the level of the Rafals and Eurofighters, but 2 times cheaper.
  16. +1
    29 November 2020 18: 24
    "There are many service providers and service opportunities in the West, but not in the East."
    I'm afraid Argentines are intimidated by our unobtrusive service.
    1. +5
      29 November 2020 19: 10
      I disagree with you. The main reason is Argentina's lack of money for airplanes. This situation is aggravated by the fact that, in addition to our aircraft, we will have to buy equipment for operation and maintenance. And of course ammunition. Because before that, there were no Soviet / Russian-made aircraft in Argentina.
    2. 0
      30 November 2020 07: 13
      Well, on the other hand, the owner is a master. Their enemies are Britain, who should they buy weapons from?
      At least during the war for the islands, the USSR could well have supplied the entire set of equipment.
  17. 0
    29 November 2020 21: 19
    Are our fighters more expensive than Chinese ones?
    Maybe the guys don't have bablosiks, so the grapes are green?
    The cars from China will also be supplied with flight support equipment, ammunition, etc.
    True, ours could have sent the auger snowplow there.
  18. +1
    29 November 2020 23: 46
    The FAA has a problem not how to recapture the Falklands, but how to protect Buenos Aires from all sorts of "surprises".
    What's the point?
    There is still no money for airplanes ...
  19. +2
    30 November 2020 02: 27
    In my opinion, once "in the West", Argentina has already bought weapons ... as a result, it merged in the war with the Naglich people. The rocket launch codes were leaked by the French once or twice.
    Maybe they should buy helmets for a start ... so as not to break their heads with a rake ... Yes
  20. +2
    30 November 2020 02: 36
    Quote: Lara Croft
    the archipelago belongs to the Corona and Argentina will not do anything about it now or in the future

    Never say never. Ukraine, too, was once Russia, and Crimea was Ukraine and even Turkey, and Britain ruled over Australia, the United States and India. There is only one constant in the world - changes.
  21. +2
    30 November 2020 02: 50
    Pro-American means buying from China? The author, do not tell :-)))
    Another thing is that Argentina may simply not have enough money for Russian cars.
  22. -1
    30 November 2020 08: 38
    Damn, what can I do? How can we be without Argentina? By the way, where is it? what
  23. Eug
    0
    30 November 2020 09: 00
    For Argentina, with its area, planes with the dimensions of at least F-18, and even Su-35 are optimal. And Pakistani is a little Chinese. But economic dependence gives rise to a certain lack of independence in strategic decisions ...
  24. 0
    30 November 2020 13: 24
    Well, yes, the Sino-Pakistani MIG21 is certainly better than modern Russian aircraft.
  25. 0
    30 November 2020 19: 30
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Well, I would buy a Yak-130. And a small and inexpensive stormtrooper.

    Why would they need a training plane without a radar?

    for what money is enough then they get. or let the neighbors buy Supertukano wassat
  26. -2
    30 November 2020 21: 47
    in fact, who said that Russia would sell something to the orphanage of Nazi Nazis?
  27. 0
    1 December 2020 10: 14
    you can buy the MiG - 29 defeat in any battle is guaranteed, he never knocked anything in his entire life from a word at all :))
  28. 0
    1 December 2020 10: 30
    They attached an F-18 wing to the F-5 fuselage, but with larger air intakes. A mixture of a bulldog with a rhinoceros, the key word here is "cheap", this is clearly a fighter for export from Aliexpress. Apparently, the Argentines really have little money, they will only have to screw "exosets" to it - and welcome the British.
  29. 0
    1 December 2020 14: 02
    The JF-17 is a Pakistani-Chinese cross between the MiG-21 with one engine from the MiG-29. And with a unit cost somewhere in the range of $ 18-20 million.
    Well, ... people want a single-engine light front-line inexpensive plane ...