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Experts estimate the likelihood of an Iranian military response after the assassination of a nuclear physicist

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Experts estimate the likelihood of an Iranian military response after the assassination of a nuclear physicist

After the assassination of Iranian scientist Mohsen Fahridzadeh, who was engaged in developments in the field of nuclear physics, the threat of a new war in the Middle East arose. The Iranian military command, stating that the United States and Israel are behind the crime, promised not to leave this unanswered, as already reported by the Military Review.


The network in this regard recalled the publication of Axios, which indicated that the Israeli government had warned its military about the need to "be prepared for negative developments." The correspondent of the publication in Tel Aviv said that Donald Trump "can give the order to strike at Iran" and therefore "the Israeli army needs to be ready for a possible response from Tehran."

Today the assassination of an Iranian nuclear physicist is being actively discussed, which is perceived as the very "strike on Iran." At the same time, experts were divided in their assessments of what the Iranian response might turn out to be. Some believe that Iran is attacking American military bases in the Middle East, others are confident that Tehran will not take any action yet, awaiting the inauguration of the 46th US president. There are speculations that Joe Biden may return the United States to a "nuclear deal" with Iran. And the murder of an Iranian scientist in this regard is viewed as a provocation aimed at getting Iran to start a military operation, after which Biden will no longer have a desire to return to an agreement with Tehran.

At the moment, there has been no military response from Iran.
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  1. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 November 2020 07: 11
    +6
    These are the Easterners. Their revenge is arranged differently and they know how to wait.  laughing
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 29 November 2020 08: 06
      +6
      Revenge must be well prepared. For this reason alone, one should not expect a quick response from Iran. But once they promised, the Americans and Israel will have to live in good shape - in anticipation of this revenge. And it will also cost them dear. hi
      1. Plantagenet
        Plantagenet 29 November 2020 12: 10
        0
        "The first warning was made by China on September 7, 1958 [1] (during this period the second Taiwan crisis was taking place). The United States, not recognizing the communist rule in China (but recognizing the Chiang Kai-shek regime), carried out reconnaissance flights over the territorial waters of China. The People's Republic of China recorded all violations of its air and water space by the US For each such violation, the PRC government sent a so-called “warning” to the American side through diplomatic channels, but did not take any action. All these warnings were numbered. and water space, especially in the Taiwan Strait, were not uncommon, and the numbering of warnings went off scale for many hundreds. The exact number of warnings made by China is difficult to estimate. It is known that only by the end of 1964 there were more than 900 [2]. " https://ru.wikipedia.org/
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 29 November 2020 09: 20
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      These are the Easterners. Their revenge is arranged differently and they know how to wait.  laughing

      The answer from them will follow anyway ..
    3. raw174
      raw174 30 November 2020 14: 59
      -1
      Unless they will slap some third-hand scientist in Israel ... I think Iran is not completely fools in power, they understand that if Israel or the United States is seriously adjusted, they will simply be crushed ... What will Iran oppose the United States and Israel? Shokhids in the church?
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 2 December 2020 01: 33
        0
        Already, Israel, which has settled on a piece of land where a foot does not fit (remember the game of files?), Needs a little.
        1. raw174
          raw174 2 December 2020 07: 41
          0
          Any army attacking Israel, the United States jet into powder.
          1. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 2 December 2020 14: 15
            0
            This is only within the framework of the action "we will avenge the injured ally" wink And to Israel it will already be like a poultice. Due to the above circumstance.
            1. raw174
              raw174 2 December 2020 16: 42
              0
              I don't think ... I am sure that in our time no army will attack a US ally, because the US Armed Forces will crush any army in the world that does not possess powerful strategic nuclear forces. They will go through Iraq like a skating rink and not sweat. The US Armed Forces today, in addition to a colossal budget, have a huge combat experience. And the Israeli army is not a whipping boy, in general, Iran will not do anything, it is not even worth trying. They will not reach their border, as they will be crushed ...
              1. Vladimir247
                Vladimir247 2 December 2020 19: 34
                0
                All this is pure theorizing. And what has the SNF to do with it? Are you already going to throw vigorous loaves, right and left? Well, again, I repeat, sitting on such a piece of land, we need to talk less about strategic nuclear forces, and think more about friendship with neighbors. It's good for the people ... and if Netanyahu, in this situation, goes to the zone for his corrupt deeds, then the people of Israel, I think, will only benefit from this.
                1. raw174
                  raw174 2 December 2020 20: 29
                  0
                  ... And what has the SNF to do with it?
                  despite the fact that only developed strategic nuclear forces can guarantee immunity in a dispute with the United States and its "team" friends. In general, yes, this is pure theory, I am not a military adviser to any of the countries)))
                  1. Vladimir247
                    Vladimir247 2 December 2020 23: 21
                    0
                    ... only advanced systems can guarantee ...
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                    It seems like yes ... but not quite ...)) for example, Cuba, Venezuela, now Bolivia, do not suffer very much from the absence of strategic nuclear forces, and they are quite repulsing the USA, including, and are ready for aggression. And nobody cares about guarantees. After all, no one will use SNF just to shoot. It is a deterrent weapon; the planet is rather small ...
                    1. raw174
                      raw174 3 December 2020 11: 02
                      0
                      Quote: Vladimir247
                      Cuba, Venezuela, now Bolivia, do not suffer much from the lack of strategic nuclear forces, and they are quite repulsing the USA, including, and are ready for aggression

                      These states are like the elusive Joe, they just don't need them ... Nobody is seriously interested in them, because they don't decide anything in their region. They can burn the flags of any country on their squares, shout any slogans, no one cares ... Now there is a struggle for influence in another region where Russia has interests.
                      1. Vladimir247
                        Vladimir247 4 December 2020 15: 13
                        0
                        Nobody needs figs ..
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                        What!? Venezuela is not needed nafig? There are oil reserves all over America for a hundred years to come! Well you iksperd ... wassat
                        Stop scaring your Israelis-Americans. They even retreated from North Korea. They cannot put things in order in their "backyard". Rumble on Iran, get world slaughter. Everyone understands this. Only through the media is the roll-over.
                        Nobody will tolerate an attack on Iran. China first. Israel should think about this very hard. Because America is far away ... and Israel is close by.
                      2. raw174
                        raw174 4 December 2020 21: 49
                        0
                        In general, time will put points in place. My position has not changed, Iran will let go of the brakes on the elimination of its leaders, there will be no real answer.
                        PS: Iraq was also considered a strong state, they did not even have time to kick when they leveled the vaunted army of Saddam ...
                      3. Vladimir247
                        Vladimir247 5 December 2020 02: 23
                        0
                        I'm not a prophet, maybe he will. But certainly not for the reason that the point is bench press. The last time they fucked amers, and there it was definitely not without corpses. Trump wiped himself off. And now they can lower it ... because they are waiting ... what will happen to America.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 29 November 2020 07: 13
    +4
    Jews and militants in Syria are one and the same.
  • Graz
    Graz 29 November 2020 07: 13
    +1
    this murder followed due to the fact that Iran was considered weak after the assassination by the Americans of Soleimani, since they did not really respond by eliminating a figure of similar scale to the Yankees. and now many will look further, if they don’t answer, then Trump may finally be able to sip Iran with tomahawks
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 29 November 2020 07: 17
      0
      This is a provocation of the Jews, the militants who attacked and who in Syria are their fosterlings.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 29 November 2020 08: 10
        +2
        Most of all, the United States is interested in undermining the situation in this region, which in recent years has lost its influence here. And Israel is playing along with the Americans in this regard - it is working off the aid it receives from them. hi
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 29 November 2020 09: 42
          0
          And Saudi Arabia? These guys often showed self-activity, raking in places but continue to crawl onto the cactus.
          1. bessmertniy
            bessmertniy 29 November 2020 09: 49
            +3
            The Saudis have their own game - an attempt to become not only the spiritual center of the Arab and Muslim world, but also the military-economic monster that dominates this region. However, the weak side of this is the lack of human capital, and guest workers in Saudi Arabia are still non-citizens, and this, of course, keeps the ambitions of the monarchy within certain limits. In her situation, it is more logical to fight and conflict with Iran not directly, but through various allies that have been banned. hi
      2. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 29 November 2020 09: 53
        0
        Quote: Pessimist22
        This is a provocation of the Jews

        I agree with this. There are no militants trained by Israel in Syria. There, Turkey, at the suggestion of the CIA, tried. Israel has experience of playing off peoples in the Middle East, including Iran. They probably found and trained fanatics from some extremist religious organization fighting against the regime Shiites in Iran.
        1. borberd
          borberd 29 November 2020 10: 38
          -2
          Tell us about Israel's experience in playing off the peoples of the BV, it is very interesting to listen to fairy tales.
          1. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 29 November 2020 11: 57
            -3
            Quote: borberd
            Tell us about Israel's experience in playing off the peoples of the BV, it is very interesting to listen to fairy tales.

            You are welcome. The most famous is SABRA AND SHATILA. On September 16, 1982, a Lebanese radical right-wing [Christian] armed formation known as the Phalangists, trained and armed by the Israeli army, entered the camps and massacred the unarmed civilians, watched by General Yaron and his men. For 36 hours, at the behest of the Israeli army, the killings did not stop, the military kept a cordon around the camps so that none of their residents could escape the terror. Although the Israeli commission of inquiry of Kahan did not find any fault with the Israelis, it nevertheless came to the conclusion that Sharon bears “personal responsibility” for “not taking appropriate measures to prevent or reduce the risk of reprisals” when sending the Phalangists to the camps.
            1. borberd
              borberd 29 November 2020 14: 20
              +1
              Lies. When Israeli troops entered Lebanon to save the Christian community of Lebanon from destruction, a civil war had been raging there for a long time and pitted Christians against Muslims there - Arafat's bandits and Syrians, who ruled and killed Lebanese prime ministers and presidents there. What happened in Sabra was the revenge of the Christian Phalangists for the Christian villages destroyed by the Palestinians, where civilians were massacred by the Arafat terrorists.

              Next try ... just try not to lie.
      3. Diverse
        Diverse 29 November 2020 12: 39
        -1
        If this is a provocation, then it turns out that many in this country do not want the rule of religious fanatics in the country. This is what actually happened during the liquidation. Can you imagine such a large operation without local support? "... the team of liquidators consisted of 12 people. According to the Iranian special services, these people underwent special military training outside Iran. About 50 more people provided logistical support for the operation; the group of liquidators used a Hyundai Santa Fe jeep, a Nissan pickup truck (mined) and four Electricity in the area was cut off half an hour before the active phase of the operation. Fakhrizadeh's motorcade consisted of three cars (all armored), the scientist himself was driving in the third car. The liquidators missed the first security car and opened fire on the second and third cars, shortly after that a mined pickup truck Nissan crashed into the second car of the motorcade and exploded. 12 liquidators opened fire on the first and third cars of the motorcade. The commander of the group of liquidators pulled the wounded scientist out of the car and fired a control shot. The liquidators left the operation site (none of them were injured or detained). "
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    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 29 November 2020 10: 42
      +3
      Quote: Graz
      Iran was considered weak after the assassination of Soleimani by the Americans, since they did not really respond by eliminating a figure of similar scale to the Yankees.

      Yes, they would have answered normally ... A missile strike on bases in Iraq with more than a hundred damaged mattresses + dropped an aircraft in Afghanistan with a high-ranking pepper from the CIA who planned and implemented the plan to eliminate Soleimani. At the same time, after the "response" received, the United States wore off and did not dare to go to military aggravation, urging Iran to consider this blow sufficient. Now, along the way, the delay in retaliation is due only to the fact that Iran is taking measures to establish the country that is really involved in the elimination of the scientist, because neither Israel nor the United States claimed responsibility. When Iran has proof, then it will answer, so as not to be unfounded.
    3. uav80
      uav80 30 November 2020 12: 47
      0
      For Suleimani, the Americans received a response in the form of a downed CIA 358 plane and Michael D'Andrea on board.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 November 2020 07: 15
    +3
    Tehran will not take any action yet, awaiting the inauguration of the 46th US president.
    Iran has already stated that after the murder they will not count on any changes in relations with the arrival of a new president. So the answer will be in any case, and what we will see over time. Iran is simply not in a hurry, obviously discussing various options for a forceful (and what else?) Response.
    1. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 09: 15
      +5
      "(what else?) answer." Terror, I do not see anything wrong to respond with terror to terror. What else can you call the murder of Iranian citizens?
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 11: 07
        -11%
        ... Terror, I see nothing wrong

        Are you a scumbag by conviction?
        1. Sergey Averchenkov
          Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 11: 11
          +1
          Lenin is a scumbag? Dzerzhinsky scumbag? And they declared the Red Terror. The US doesn't announce anything at all - it just spanks people it doesn't like.
          By convictions, I am an anarchist - I just ask you - no hasty conclusions ... read Kropotkin first.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 11: 15
            -8
            ... ... read Kropotkin first

            And, therefore, by conviction. Terror romantic?
            1. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 11: 20
              +2
              Is Kropotkin a romantic terrorist? According to Kropotkin, anarchism is anarchy, that is, you will have no one else to complain about - you yourself will be responsible for everything. Leave your thoughts that Father Makhno was an anarchist.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 11: 32
                -9
                And what then was Kropotkin and Makhno dragged into? Purely out of interest - do you have a selective approach to terror? That is, an explosion in the Moscow metro is bad, but in Manhattan, is it good?
                1. Sergey Averchenkov
                  Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 11: 38
                  +3
                  Everything is selective, even for you - they will kill your son - there will be no limit to your indignation, they will kill your enemy - don't you say somewhere inside: "Well, what a fig with him"? I think tell me ... tell me how.
                  1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 11: 50
                    -8
                    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                    will kill your enemy - don't you say somewhere inside: "Well, fig with him"?

                    just don't need this empty phrase-mongering. Is it personal for you - a murdered Persian? Relative? And a couple of dozen innocent visitors to a cafe in Tel Aviv who will be blown up in revenge are your personal enemies? Very nice cynicism.
                    1. Sergey Averchenkov
                      Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 12: 30
                      +4
                      No, like a murdered American, like a murdered Israeli. That’s why I’m right — I’m a detached view of all this. And I ask myself - why one can kill, while others cannot? Why? Can you tell me? Your phrase at the expense of empty phrase-mongering is empty phrase-mongering. And maybe you shouldn't swear at all?
                      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 12: 44
                        -7
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        And maybe you shouldn't swear at all?

                        Yes, I, in fact, did not swear. I understand perfectly well that the average person needs a picture on TV. And if the mess after the next terrorist attack belongs to his ideological or, if you like, eventual enemy, then this gives him, the man in the street, animal satisfaction. Well, otherwise - a paroxysm of anger and a vengeful reflex. Everything is clear, what really. Instincts.
                        For me personally, just "just terror"- the essence of an oxymoron. That's all.
                      2. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 13: 19
                        0
                        So you condemn the murder of Soleimani, etc.? Then I will understand you. After all, one cannot notice one thing and the other not.
                        By the way, you are also a philistine. :) Well, why, if not according to your opinion, you reduce everything to "instincts", "animal hatred", "vengeful reflexes", etc.? Do you want to offend? What for? I do not understand you.
                        "Just terror" ... This is your phrase, who promised you justice? I? Life is generally not fair. You can consider terror as one of the possibilities of political struggle.
                      3. Vladimir247
                        Vladimir247 30 November 2020 02: 01
                        +1
                        Just terror is an oxymoron.
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                        Play words. What is terror? For the Nazis, we were terrorists, 100%. Well, that is, the most real just terror for the Nazis. Against the enemy, just terror is a balm for the soul. Is there something wrong?
                      4. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 30 November 2020 16: 19
                        -5
                        what the fuck are fascists? What have they got to do with it?
                      5. Vladimir247
                        Vladimir247 2 December 2020 01: 41
                        0
                        Fascism has many faces ... and its essence is ethnic nationalism. And yet, yes, a war was waged against them, an extreme form of terrorism. Is there anything wrong again? You know ... you can't understand the Ivanovs ... wassat
  • Rustic i ......
    Rustic i ...... 30 November 2020 16: 17
    0
    If Russia sinks to the bottom of some vessel that got lost in the fog and unknowingly came into the waters of Russia, possibly for intelligence purposes, purely out of curiosity, will Russia be considered a terrorist or defending its borders? I remember there was already such an incident in the Gulf of Tonkin (which was declared "international waters"), which was the reason for military action by the United States. The concept of terror or war in disguise looks the same and can all be declared international waters.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 30 November 2020 16: 27
      -1
      Well, come on - Sarajevo, Gleivice, Mainila .... Where did you get carried away? If you really like double standards, why did you run into the Jews? By the way, it’s not a fact that they were the Iranian botan who had contracted them. Or maybe the Saud?
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 2 December 2020 01: 45
        0
        The Saudis do not roll. If it comes out, then their entire Arab world will drown in shit. Every Saudi without exception, regardless of personality and position. Just because they prevented the Muslims from getting hold of a vigorous loaf. Ferstein?
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 29 November 2020 07: 23
    +3
    ... the murder of an Iranian scientist in this regard is viewed as a provocation aimed at getting Iran to start a military operation, after which Biden will no longer have a desire to return to an agreement with Tehran.

    It may very well be. Some people don't need peace in the Middle East ...
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 29 November 2020 07: 27
      +1
      We need a small victorious war, the dollar rate should rise and oil to grow, otherwise American companies are suffering losses.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 29 November 2020 08: 16
        +1
        Quote: Pessimist22
        We need a small victorious war, the dollar rate should rise and oil to grow, otherwise American companies are suffering losses.

        Americans are constantly trying to lower the dollar rate - you produce in cheap dollars, sell in expensive euros, for example. It is beneficial for them
        1. Sergey Averchenkov
          Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 09: 19
          -1
          Lies, if they seriously had to give up the dollar as the currency of interethnic settlement. And this is completely unprofitable for them, extremely unprofitable. The dollar is their magic wand that they move the world.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 29 November 2020 09: 36
            +2
            lol
            What a lie? )) During the entire period of Trump's rule, there was a butting between him and the European Union for the exchange rate - the Europeans tried to lower the euro in order to better sell their products in the States, the Americans dropped the dollar. And why should they give up the national currency? laughing
            1. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 09: 42
              0
              Yes, this is all understandable, but this butting is temporary. Had they really wanted to drop the dollar, they would have done as I said, but then they will lose influence on the world, and they will not go for it when. What a super nation without super leverage. Although they can hardly be called a nation, although they are not right - they cannot be called that - rabble.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 29 November 2020 09: 56
                +3
                No one in their right mind will smash their currency to smithereens, about the rabble - in my opinion, stupidity - the minimum salary is 500 rubles per hour, the average salary is about 55 thousand rubles per week , the best universities, the best libraries, the best scientists in the world (including from Russia), whom they entice with high fees.
                For salary, I gave you the data for 2015 - now higher
                1. Sergey Averchenkov
                  Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 11: 04
                  -3
                  How much does a cup of coffee cost in New Orc? And how much do we have? You are Russian? I am Russian. Here we are a nation. And they?
                  And also ... if they live well it doesn't mean that they are right ... for me it means that they steal from the rest of the world. Now I have already forgotten, I can be a little mistaken - the United States produces 20% of world GDP (despite the fact that a significant part of this is on the stock exchange), and consumes 40%. Where does the missing interest come from? Probably stealing? AND?
                  1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 11: 37
                    -3
                    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                    if they live well it doesn't mean they are right ...

                    and, that's the reason for the animal hatred of Americans - "live well."
                    1. Sergey Averchenkov
                      Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 12: 48
                      +3
                      The reason for the animal hatred lies in the fact that my brains were almost blown out by a stinger - a year in hospitals. I hope now you understand my attitude towards the United States?
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 29 November 2020 12: 42
                    +5
                    I am Jewish. In New York, depending on where. In Manhattan it may cost 1000 rubles, but there even a salary of 1 million rubles is not considered good. ))
                    Clothes are two times cheaper than in the Russian Federation, cars are cheaper than in Russia, real estate is several times more expensive. But - mortgages at 2-3% per annum maximum.
                    Russians are a nation. Americans are a bunch of nations. But if they have achieved success in science and economics, it is difficult to call them a rabble.
                    laughing You can make money without stealing - Steve Jobs and Bill Gates have stolen what? The budget was not exactly cut.
                    Percentage - the United States consumes up to a fig of its own production, imports to the USA are China for consumer goods, Germany, Italy, France for luxury goods, Japan for cars, etc. So count it)).
                    1. Sergey Averchenkov
                      Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 12: 58
                      +4
                      So what of the fact that you are a Jew? This does not cause any rejection in me. How did Americans succeed? The slave trade? Or has everyone forgotten about it? Did you cash in on World War II? Forgotten too? Although you may be right in principle, I have a pathological hatred of the United States, but this is my life - I do what I want.
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 29 November 2020 13: 10
                        +6
                        You asked me if I was Russian)). I did not expect rejection - I live in the Russian Federation, I know the attitude of Russians to the "national question" - the absolute majority really do not care.
                        Why did the Americans do the loot? The slave trade - well, this is the 18th century, slave labor ended in the 19th century and only concerned the textile industry.
                        After WWII, they had a gigantic national debt - as a percentage of GDP, higher than the current one. The Brighton Woods and Jamaican Agreements - yes, it helped them. As well as the industrial and general infrastructure that has survived, in contrast to the USSR, Germany and Japan.
                        I didn’t write about your pathological hatred of the States - for me, it’s a country as a country. Many opportunities and many problems))
                      2. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 29 November 2020 13: 48
                        +3
                        A Russian Jew is also Russian. :)) But a Jew :)) But Russian :)) Come on - we will succeed. :)
                  3. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 29 November 2020 13: 31
                    -1
                    Quote: Krasnodar

                    Russians are a nation. Americans are a bunch of nations. But if they have achieved success in science and economics, it is difficult to call them a rabble.
                    laughing You can make money without stealing - Steve Jobs and Bill Gates have stolen what? The budget was not exactly cut.
                    Us residents = blacks + Hispanics + whites + Chinese and the rest ...
                    Science in the USA - "imported" - as an example of von Braun ... How "make $" in the USA I will not argue ... Bernard Madoff - you know that? The state treasury is "sawn" everywhere, just the size saws are different.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 November 2020 13: 39
                      +6
                      Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos (Amazon) and Zuckerberg saw what they saw? laughing
                      Imported science - 60% of the Nobel laureates from the USA are natives of the country. The fact that they are attractive for work and living for the remaining 40% is a plus, not a minus.
                  4. Vladimir247
                    Vladimir247 30 November 2020 02: 12
                    -1
                    Bill Gates is not a thief? Sorry... wassat
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 30 November 2020 15: 29
                      +3
                      And what did you steal?
                    2. Hunter 2
                      Hunter 2 30 November 2020 15: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      And what did you steal?

                      Two Silver cigarette cases, two imported movie cameras, suede jackets ... Two too! crying It's a shame not to know!
                      Hi Albert wink
                    3. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 30 November 2020 15: 53
                      +3
                      Greetings, Alex! hi Well, yes, from this I raised billions sad
                    4. Hunter 2
                      Hunter 2 30 November 2020 15: 59
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Greetings, Alex! hi Well, yes, from this I raised billions sad

                      You’re bad with Russian proverbs ... A chicken, as you know, bites a grain by grain!
                      To Bill Gates Answer am
                    5. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 30 November 2020 16: 41
                      +3
                      Microsoft won't work! Word - a means of oppression of the office proletariat, Excel - Evil! negative
              2. Vladimir247
                Vladimir247 2 December 2020 14: 37
                +1
                Ask geeks ... I've been told these stories for a long time; and stole other people's ideas and developments.
              3. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 2 December 2020 16: 40
                0
                Many steal other people's ideas and developments
                And only a few become billionaires
      2. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 2 December 2020 01: 50
        0
        If they live well ...
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        It is also important to understand that living and consuming, more and better, are completely different categories. Comrade trolls, who have made such a cozy nest on this site, and more than one, use this manipulation with pleasure. Why do we need it?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 2 December 2020 16: 43
          0
          To live well is to be able to provide oneself with high-quality food, high-quality medicine, high-quality education for children, high-quality housing and high-quality rest at the expense of decent wages for one's own labor)).
          1. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 2 December 2020 19: 25
            0
            And it's all?! Some primitive. This is what you want to consume. But this is not life. This is consumption. What about security? This is the broadest concept. And much more important than just quality food. Which, by the way, is WELL VERY expensive. Already in the system and the rest of the Western world, it is not in sight, and oh-very long ago.
            You don't live in the West, do you? You are from Russia. How then do you know?
            Your entire post is a set of hackneyed stamps.
            Your consumer set is meager, meager. laughing
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 2 December 2020 20: 48
            0
            25 years lived in Israel, half a year in Germany
            In any eatery - safe food. Well, the quality of products in stores is different. laughing
          3. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 3 December 2020 14: 23
            0
            People like you are now a wagon and a small cart, and your opinion is just yours. I have also lived and worked in the United States and Canada for 21 years, and it’s quite obvious to me that you are lying. And during this time I met so much shit in the public catering sector .... not knowing this, having lived, as you said 25 years, is impossible.
            And somehow you so modestly ignored the security sector ... laughing ... but the drug pandemic has literally swept the West. Is this also included in the concept of a decent life for you? wassat
            So the thesis remains: to live and consume more and better, these are different concepts. Can't you really see the difference? Or the fact that drug addicts are hovering around you, policemen are shooting at children, as recently in Canada, and many other things do not fit into the concept of life?
          4. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 3 December 2020 18: 59
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            lol ... yeah, lying))
            About shit by taste or by quality - decide fellow You won't give a bribe to the control body there - they will burn you quickly, and with the existing competition with shitty products, you will quickly go broke
            What does pandemic of drug addiction mean? Do they smoke weed, throw pills in clubs, and do the "white collars" indulge in coconut? ))
            Or, as here, they stir up the crocodile and hammer with spice?
          5. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 4 December 2020 03: 01
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            By taste, or by quality ..
            -------
            And in that, and in the other. And the control bodies do not need to buy. Shit is the norm. But ... some very gifted people like you like shit ... laughing I won't argue, they don't argue about tastes, right?
            Read what a pandemic is in your favorite pedia.
            Cocoon or gerychem, that's not the point. Die by the millions. And to you in joy, I look.
            Nu nu ... be proud ... bye.
          6. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 December 2020 03: 57
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            No need to buy or maybe buy - decide laughing
            I eat everywhere either in national or in Italian restaurants, but if in the States you had to eat at KFC and all kinds of Taco Bell Buritos, I sincerely sympathize hi
            What a pandemic is, today they know even without the Internet, and in Israel, a 65-year-old drug addict will not surprise anyone. After all, people do not use a crocodile zhezh and do not use Screw and Spice)).
          7. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 4 December 2020 15: 22
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            In national cuisines ...
            --------
            Uh-huh. I understood. Mashka Antuanetova, too, was sincerely perplexed about what the people were making noise about, what kind of bread did they need? On the corner in the bakery there are great cakes ... laughing
            The people just did not appreciate such direct sincerity, and cut off Masha's legs ... up to their ears. wassat
          8. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 December 2020 17: 08
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            Social message laughing
  • Vladimir247
    Vladimir247 3 December 2020 14: 59
    0
    ... s / n .... Now higher ..
    ------
    Yes, write more ... what is there ... the paper will endure everything. You'd better tell us about Israel, but I'd better write about the system, okay? You have lived in Israel for 25 years, and I have lived in North America for 20. Is it logical?
    All your numbers are the essence, sheer slyness. About 40 million are cut off from bread for water, especially now, when the deep-diving covidomaniacs have driven the economy into stagnation. The country is a complete homeless person. Cities such as Detroit, Buffalo, to a large extent Chicago, not to mention New Orleans ... give a depressing impression ... downtown Houston, residential areas of private households, are simply striking in their poverty.
    Only those who work full-time receive the minimum wages. And such, especially at the lower levels, are a minority. And most of them work from agencies. And there are your calculations ... laughing
    And when citing the minimum wages in rubles, why didn't you cite the monthly payment for a rented apartment in rubles? And let me give you: $ 650, and this is still to look for, for a family, × 70 .... no less than 45,5 thousand goes to the circle ...))) and this will be, excuse me, a shack.
    Well, the rest ... after that you are not surprised when you come across settlements of homeless people in forest zones ... they live, one might say, in communes, that is, they survive. Or not. If we get lucky.
    Are you talking about safe food ... wassat ... And there are already several million homeless people in the system. Tell them about safe food. Probably people will be happy ...)))
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 3 December 2020 19: 05
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      I have never been to North America, but I know one thing - the Israelis and Russians who have gone there do not want to return from there, they are almost satisfied with everything.
      By the way - some have been living in Chicago for the 6th year already - happy as elephants. )) And in Russia they were not very poor people wink
      1500 dollars a month in big cities is something more or less decent. As in Israel, by the way. Only the salaries there are higher than the Israeli ones, and therefore I am comparing, and it is difficult to imagine three generations of the same family living in the same apartment, which is customary in Russia.
      Safe food, of course. If you are not on the sidelines of life, then everything is good and civil.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 4 December 2020 03: 17
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        These are all stamps. Nothing from reality. Some virtual happy "elephants" ... do not want to return (and where is this from?) There are a lot of articles about reverse immigration, let alone from Israel ... bully
        Especially a lot of twigs from Israel to Canada. Why wouldn't you say? The Canadian dollar is cheaper than the green one by 25-30%.
        About safe food - verbosity. Let us then provide statistical data from the UN, or from somewhere else. From personal impressions, I can't say this. As an everywhere.
        And what's wrong with living in one apartment? This is normal. You see, it's just normal. And to perezzha and change houses five or six times in a lifetime is NOT NORMAL. This is called the economics of the absurd. The shadow government, already managed to the handle, with this unrestrained consumption of everything and everyone. What to do, no one knows, until they released a horror story about a covid, okay, they will spoil the people a little, through failure to provide timely medical assistance, and then what?
        You would at least change the training manual, or something ... laughing I read all this somewhere already ... eleven years ago.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 4 December 2020 04: 07
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          Where do they not want to return? There is one couple from the Upper East Side (Manhattan), from Chicago, from Pasadena - for example, there are acquaintances from New Jersey.
          What UN data? Food poisoning statistics in public catering? lol Inquire about the life expectancy in the countries - the quality of food is a very important component, along with ecology and medicine.
          So I moved from Israel to the Russian Federation - here I have more opportunities, the age is no longer draft, so what? laughing
          What's okay? When do children and grandchildren live with their parents? Even if this is an estate, it is still annoying.
          I've changed houses five times - what's wrong with that?
          Shadow government? laughing No, these are Masons and Zion-Trotskyist globalists.
          Well, yes, they certainly did. Very correct literature. Scientific ... what
        2. Vladimir247
          Vladimir247 4 December 2020 15: 29
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          You can, of course, joke about the world government ... and act here as a pea jester, but after Trump stated several times that he did not understand who controls the media in his country, your remarks look idiotic ... laughing
          All your koppashka, you need to change the manuals))
          And put smaller plus signs to each other. Kindergarten, pants with straps ...
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 4 December 2020 17: 10
          +1
          Yes. And Vaenga predicted an increase in prices for Doshirak in 2021. repeat
  • bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 29 November 2020 08: 17
    +1
    The growing dollar rate is a decrease in the competitiveness of American goods in the world market. And cheap oil is probably not fatal to the American economy either. The war is needed for other reasons - to show who is the boss in this part of the world. what
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 November 2020 07: 36
    -1
    the Americans officially said AUG in the Persian Gulf to cover the troops during the evacuation from Iraq and Afghanistan. Not a word about Iran. What smart guy will drive AUG into a puddle without closing the rear. Now they will lick Iran, just not to hit. They will also swear that with Iranian they have nothing to do with the professor, it's all Israel.
  • maxim k.
    maxim k. 29 November 2020 07: 44
    -1
    I think Iran will answer anyway, but this is the East - there such "dishes" as revenge are served cold.
  • certero
    certero 29 November 2020 08: 04
    +3
    Quote: Graz
    since they did not really respond by eliminating a figure similar to the scale of the Yankees.

    We didn’t answer anything. When was the last time any state hit an American base with impunity? And Iran hit
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 November 2020 09: 29
    -5
    The correspondent of the publication in Tel Aviv stated that Donald Trump "can give the order to strike at Iran" and therefore "the Israeli army needs to be ready for a possible response from Tehran."
    Ie Trump bangs across Iran (do not bring it, Lord!), And snatches out the full Israel. How similar to the Merikatos! And Israel himself puts his little head in a loop ...
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 11: 12
      -2
      ... Israel himself puts his little head in a loop ...

      Jews have been in this loop for 70+ years.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 2 December 2020 14: 46
        0
        And How? Do you like living like on a powder keg? With all the neighbors at knives, what does the Jewish people want? But the top must! Otherwise, the question will inevitably arise: why is Netanyahu still not in prison?
        They taught you ... they taught you ... everything is not for the future. Well, no matter how much the string twists ... it's a pity that the money is counted alone, but the tailor Sima and the furrier Zyama are puffing ... sad
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 2 December 2020 14: 57
          -4
          Quote: Vladimir247
          And How? Do you like living like on a powder keg?

          I have no idea. Ask the Jews.
          1. Vladimir247
            Vladimir247 4 December 2020 03: 21
            -1
            A paragraph, maybe we won't be rude? I didn't drink vodka with you
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 4 December 2020 09: 05
              -1
              Considering it rudeness to refer to 'you' is funny. Well, knock the admin.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 29 November 2020 09: 38
    -2
    They will take revenge, but not immediately and Iran is not in a position to trumpet about it. Whoever needs a cocknut, they will rejoice in the office and remember the deceased, that's all. Well, the question arises, what prevented a closed city from being made for their nuclear programs, so as not to lose specialists in principle?
  • Abdula
    Abdula 29 November 2020 09: 46
    +4
    Well, for now, the Israelis are chasing the Persians all over Syria and in Iran, the Mossad is conducting more than one successful operation, I think they will get a second Karabakh, they will get the old weaponry, they rush to the AUG with boats and they have converted the tanker into AIRCRAFT LAUGHTER
  • APASUS
    APASUS 29 November 2020 10: 18
    -2
    Now the option of Iran's renunciation of nuclear weapons may not be considered at all! It is interesting that niche Israeli bloggers do not speak out on this topic and why would it suddenly?
    1. borberd
      borberd 29 November 2020 10: 45
      -2
      Now ? But . They never refused, even when they tricked Bidon and Obama into signing the nuclear deal.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 29 November 2020 11: 30
        +1
        Quote: borberd
        Now ? But . They never refused, even when they deceived Can and Obama by signing a nuclear deal.

        Can you prove cheating? How, then, the IAEA, it was they who installed the cameras in production, it was their staff who carried out inspections, it is on their reports that most decisions are based.
        1. borberd
          borberd 29 November 2020 14: 14
          -1
          Yeah, I installed it, where I knew, and where the Iranians let them in. And if they were not allowed somewhere, then it was not necessary. When the Iranian archives came to Israel, after they were made public, the IAEA officials had a pale appearance, and the Americans once again became convinced that such offices cannot be trusted. It turned out that the Persians took the inspectors by the nose - they took them only to the objects on which there was nothing. And when information about new objects appeared, the Iranians said that there was nothing there and therefore they did not need to be inspected. That is why Trump canceled the "nuclear deal."
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 29 November 2020 14: 20
            -1
            Quote: borberd
            ... When Iranian archives came to Israel

            As I understand it, it will not be difficult for you to upload these archives
            1. borberd
              borberd 29 November 2020 14: 27
              0
              Should I lay out all half a ton here?
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 29 November 2020 14: 34
                -1
                Quote: borberd
                Should I lay out all half a ton here?

                Why half a ton, there are not many most interesting moments and they will not take much
                1. borberd
                  borberd 29 November 2020 14: 49
                  +2
                  And what is Google for? We write - "the nuclear archive of Iran stolen by Israel" and enjoy the fact that they have declassified. I will post one:
                  https://www.vesty.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5341584,00.html
  • Axiles
    Axiles 29 November 2020 10: 29
    -10%
    Iran has been constantly provoked in recent years, just like Russia .. Until Iran appears our air defense system, they should not answer .. They will be wet right away !!!! Iran is still Russia's only ally in the BV (Syria does not count). Iran will collapse and Russia will have to leave and flee from Syria and from the BV in general, and this is fraught with political concessions and, in fact, all-round defense, which is what the West and other cunning countries are trying to achieve ..
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 November 2020 11: 20
      +1
      ... Iran is still Russia's only ally in the BV

      Stop raving. What the fuck is he an ally?
      1. Axiles
        Axiles 29 November 2020 12: 20
        -4
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        ... Iran is still Russia's only ally in the BV

        Stop raving. What the fuck is he an ally?

        I expected such a nervous reaction))))) While Russia is supporting Iran behind the scenes, it costs us very dearly! Iran is the last country left in the BW that cannot be "democratized", Russia does not agree soldier We took Tehran too !!! The Naglo-Saxons were squeezed out and other Natsiks. hi
        And the murder of scientists is petty to deal with, it is called FEAR and helplessness!
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      2. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 2 December 2020 01: 58
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        Who is the ally? Israel? My slippers bent from laughter ...
  • yfast
    yfast 29 November 2020 10: 40
    0
    They will sit by the river and wait for a passing corpse.
  • Antifreeze
    Antifreeze 29 November 2020 13: 04
    +15
    Americans are now considering all options
  • Tektor
    Tektor 30 November 2020 11: 32
    +1
    It is very likely that Iran is preparing a strike against Israel. And I'm afraid that this time the Iranians will not warn about the time and goals. In other words, the puppeteers, who outlined the purpose of the terrorist attack in advance, calculated the consequences. And they need such consequences to start a war between Iran and all its enemies around.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 30 November 2020 16: 55
    -1
    Situations when Iran only chatters in response to acts of terror against its officials and scientists - the collective West regards it as Iran's weakness and that's it.

    In fact, in order to adequately respond to terrorists, Iran does not need to hunt for someone and blow up someone ... Iran's response can be more ambitious and serious - Iran can set fire to the entire chain of Lebanon-Palestine-Israel. And it can burn for decades !!!

    Also, an option for a good revenge is unidentified nuclear explosions in the Southern Ocean - why can some countries do this while others cannot ??? At the same time, Iran can declare for at least 100 years that they have no nuclear weapons !!!
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 2 December 2020 02: 11
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    Quote: Axiles
    And the murder of scientists is petty to deal with, it is called FEAR and helplessness!


    For these people, doing vile, disgusting deeds is a common thing.
    This is their air, a person cannot live without air, and a Zionist cannot live without killing scientists, Palestinian children.

    Their bloody ancestors drowned barges filled with Russian people in the Crimea during the Civil War.
    This is their Zemlyachka, who crushed the male genitals of the tied Russian officers with his heel.
    1. Vladimir247
      Vladimir247 2 December 2020 14: 51
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      Tovarisch Kim, your training manual smelled of mothballs.