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"Message to Tehran on strengthening deterrence": US sends aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf

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"Message to Tehran on strengthening deterrence": US sends aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf

The aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN-68) is sent to the Persian Gulf amid plans to reduce the number of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. This was reported by CNN, citing a source in the military sphere.


The decision to return the AUG led by an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf was made even before the assassination of Iranian nuclear physicist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, but the United States has already said that this step "will serve as a message to Tehran to strengthen deterrence" against the background of increased tension in the region after Tehran's statements in relations between Israel and the United States.

The aircraft carrier was already in the Persian Gulf this year. In mid-September of this year, an aircraft carrier strike group led by the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN-68) entered the bay for the first time in 10 months. Recently, American AUGs did not enter its waters due to threats from Iran, being in the neighboring Gulf of Oman and conducting all operations from there.

The AUG, in addition to the aircraft carrier itself, includes the missile cruisers USS Princeton (CG-59), USS Philippine Sea (CG-58) and the destroyer USS Sterett (DDG-104). The USS Nimitz (CVN-68) air wing includes about 70 aircraft and helicopters, including 48 F / A-18 Hornet fighter-bombers.

Meanwhile, the American edition of the New York Times, citing its own sources in the American intelligence services, claims that Israel is behind the assassination of Iranian nuclear physicist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh.

One US official, like two other intelligence officials, claims that Israel is behind the attack on the scientist. (...) it is not yet clear if the US could have known about the operation in advance, but two countries (Israel and the US - approx.) close allies and have long exchanged intelligence on Iran

- the newspaper writes.

The White House and the CIA declined to comment on the New York Times publication.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 10: 33
    +20
    The decision to return the AUG led by an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf was made even before the assassination of Iranian nuclear physicist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh

    And in my opinion, this decision was made simultaneously with the decision to liquidate Fakhrizade and also with the decision on new sanctions against Russia and China ... the Anglo-Saxons are insolent ... Suleimani was recently killed ... now there is a new crime on you ... when did you drown in human blood ... villains.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 28 November 2020 10: 41
      0
      The aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN-68) is sent to the Persian Gulf amid plans to reduce the number of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. This was reported by CNN, citing a source in the military sphere.

      I alone do not see the logic?
      No one has yet been taken out, but the aircraft carrier has already gone. And Afghanistan is a coastal state. Checkmate to the Soviet school of geography. laughing
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        1. ender
          ender 28 November 2020 11: 43
          +7
          The earliest known version of this joke was published as a comic strip in 1931 in the London weekly The Humorist and reprinted in the Canadian newspaper The Drumheller Review. In it, two sailors shout into megaphones, standing at the rail:

          "Skipper:" Where are you going on your flashing ship? " / Answer: “This is not a flashing ship. It's a lighthouse! "
          (C)
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 28 November 2020 14: 48
            0
            Quote: ender
            The earliest known version of this joke was published as a comic strip in 1931 in the London weekly The Humorist and reprinted in the Canadian newspaper The Drumheller Review. In it, two sailors shout into megaphones, standing at the rail:

            "Skipper:" Where are you going on your flashing ship? " / Answer: “This is not a flashing ship. It's a lighthouse! "
            (C)

            It's still a good joke))
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 28 November 2020 10: 58
        +6
        How is there no logic? It has been known since the 19th century that London is the capital of Paris. And Paris is the capital of Rome. (from).
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 28 November 2020 11: 23
          +4
          This became known only after Yeralash laughing
      3. Mouse
        Mouse 28 November 2020 11: 28
        +1
        I alone do not see the logic?

        And where did you trace the logic of the states? Apolgic ... yes
      4. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 28 November 2020 13: 10
        +2
        And how was Psaki going to send aircraft carriers to the shores of Belarus? Something a cover group at the aircraft carrier "sickly", two "Ticonderogs" and "Bjork". In the good old days, two Ticonderogs and 3-4 Bjerkas.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 28 November 2020 10: 43
      +2
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      when you drown in human blood ... rascals.

      Never. They are ghouls. They can't live without blood
      1. mamontenok
        mamontenok 28 November 2020 10: 49
        -3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        when you drown in human blood ... rascals.

        Never. They are ghouls. They can't live without blood

        This is their usual state Sergey negative ! Remember the 80s and 90s. We were in peace with them, we reduced our weapons, the troops were withdrawn (or rather, just flight), they hoped they would do the same ... Now Russia is in fact cornered and hounded, hounded, hounded ..
        They came out of all the peace treaties unilaterally, blood sheds along our borders .. Who is to blame and what to do? This is a rhetorical question we have with the Russians now!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 28 November 2020 10: 56
          0
          Quote: mamontenok
          .Who is to blame and what to do

          Hold on and swell as much as possible
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 28 November 2020 12: 39
            0
            When there was no internal turmoil in Russia, she always won.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 28 November 2020 10: 59
        +4
        The public is interested in the presence of the Iranian navy submarines with torpedoes capable of sinking the Nimitz.
        1. Note
          Note 28 November 2020 11: 55
          0
          No. There is something else. By the way, a derivative of Russian products.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 15: 25
            -4
            Quote: Note
            No. There is something else. By the way, a derivative of Russian products.

            Squall clone mean?
          2. Note
            Note 28 November 2020 16: 15
            0
            Some of the so-called bottom mines. Completely new. Programmable very powerful, extremely fast. When moving, some principles of previously known products with jet thrust and cavity are used. The amount of charge used when detonating is adjustable. Installation of special warheads is possible. Accommodation is provided for a wide range of depths. The number of these items in Iran is unknown. The manufacturer is not known. The hitting distance by moving from the point of placement, from the moment the target is detected or the moment the command is given to the point of finding the target, is quite impressive. Some ships have already experienced their effects. The latter is very recent.
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 28 November 2020 12: 40
          +2
          There are boats. But they are unlikely to be able to sink.
        3. Brturin
          Brturin 28 November 2020 12: 43
          0

          The footage published by Iranian television shows the main ways in which the Navy and the IRGC plan to fight enemy ships: coastal complexes with cruise missiles and helicopters with torpedoes, high-speed kamikaze boats and saboteurs divers. Iran also has anti-ship ballistic missiles.
          https://rg.ru/2020/07/28/rasstrel-iranom-maketa-avianosca-pokazali-na-video.html
    3. Finches
      Finches 28 November 2020 11: 24
      +2
      I remember the story of the transport aircraft carrier "Card", the pride of the US Navy, which was sank by desperate Vietnamese on fragile boats ... So the devil is not so terrible as the Anglo-Saxons paint him! laughing
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 18: 54
        -3
        Quote: Finches
        with the transport aircraft carrier "Card", the pride of the US Navy

        well, with "pride" you, for example, got excited.
        Quote: Finches
        which the desperate Vietnamese sank in fragile boats ...

        lowered the stern. The Americans added a smut with repairs. But - well done Vietnamese, of course.
    4. Note
      Note 28 November 2020 11: 54
      0
      Well, to be honest, earlier in the framework of the planned preventive strike on Iran about 2 months ago. And in general, the use of nuclear weapons is on the nose, for the first time after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There is one more connection of ships going on there, and Iran is already preparing charges. So suddenly the world approached the Rubicon. I have a question. Did everyone have time to "buy pancake popcorn"?
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 28 November 2020 11: 55
      0
      We urgently need to send Kim Jong-un there - the Yankees are afraid of him like plague! laughing Two US aircraft carriers sailed near North Korea, but they were only briefly retired! We need to repeat the retreat from the shores of Iran! !!
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 28 November 2020 13: 15
        +1
        Despite the fact that Iran has no evidence that Israel is behind the liquidation of Mohsen Fakhrizade near the Iranian capital, experts draw attention to the fact that only Tel Aviv was capable of such actions, moreover, just a few days ago Israel prudently closed airspace over the occupied Golan Heights.

        According to experts, Tehran will take a decision to launch missile strikes, and the latter may well be nuclear, within the next 72 hours, and, apparently, it could be about several dozen ballistic missiles fired at the territory of the Jewish state. “Iran has already demonstrated its decisiveness against the United States, and therefore the strike on Israel does not raise any doubts at all - the only question is its effectiveness,” notes the Avia.pro specialist.
    6. Note
      Note 29 November 2020 12: 30
      -1
      Meanwhile, the second formation of US ships is approaching. Yes, and Israel is pulling something to the border with Syria.
    7. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 30 November 2020 03: 42
      0
      Quote: Lech from Android.

      And in my opinion, this decision was made simultaneously with the decision to eliminate Fakhrizadeh and also with the decision on new sanctions against Russia and China ...

      That's right!
      And the fact that they are withdrawing troops from Iraq and Afghanistan - from under a possible retaliatory strike from Iran - is a sure sign that a strike on the atomic infrastructure of the Persians is inevitable!
      Old Donald must have decided to smash all the pots in the White House kitchen.
      Before the arrival of the new Chief Chef.
      Will Biden be able to steer in the new reality in the Middle East?
      Will be able to.
      In a new conflict, no one is going to go to bed ...
      But Joe had a few sleepless nights.
      If, of course, he is still able to adequately perceive reality.
      And then before the elections he confused his wife and sister ... wink
  2. mamontenok
    mamontenok 28 November 2020 10: 35
    -1
    They killed a nuclear scientist in Iran and now the AUG is being sent to the shores .. Well done Biden, he hasn’t even taken the case yet, but the hawks have already started - wars. There will still be toli! And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran, there are too many Western lobbies and others in our power structures ... They are waiting for confusion, well
    1. lucul
      lucul 28 November 2020 10: 38
      0
      And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran, there are too many Western lobbies and others in our power structures

      So we will put the S-400)))
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 28 November 2020 10: 45
        0
        Quote: lucul
        So we put the S-400

        And it will be right good
      2. mamontenok
        mamontenok 28 November 2020 11: 02
        -4
        Quote: lucul
        And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran, there are too many Western lobbies and others in our power structures

        So we will put the S-400)))

        Or maybe they have already set, it remains only to deploy to combat readiness .. It would be good if so, that would be a surprise for "partners of all stripes" .. hi
        1. Note
          Note 28 November 2020 12: 19
          +1
          Only documentation and some parts and rare metals. Already about 4 years ago. Iran built something very similar and hid some of the collected underground for safety and surprise
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 28 November 2020 10: 43
      +3
      Quote: mamontenok
      there are too many lobbies of the West and others in our power structures ..

      Here it is no longer known: the lobby of the West or the most ordinary enemies of the Russian statehood. Where would this Biden "bluff" if Russia. guided by the saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and the statement: "No politics and nothing personal - only business" sent across the waters of the Caspian towards Iran those who could inflict irreparable damage to any AUG equipment and weapons in exchange for real money, goods and services ? belay
      1. mamontenok
        mamontenok 28 November 2020 10: 59
        -5
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Here it is no longer known: the lobby of the West or the most ordinary enemies of the Russian statehood.

        Most likely both the first and the second ..
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Where would this Biden "bluff" if Russia. guided by the saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and the statement: "No politics and nothing personal - only business" sent across the waters of the Caspian towards Iran those who could inflict irreparable damage to any AUG equipment and weapons in exchange for real money, goods and services ?

        Yes, it seems that there was something, but this is not enough .. Iran needs air defense, otherwise they will bomb it and not even frown and Russia will have to flee from the BV, etc. with shouts in our direction atu and hooting .. Vasilyevich is very tense, again there is a big smell of blood
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2020 10: 46
      +3
      Quote: mamontenok
      And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran,

      Wake up and sing !!!!

      In July 2015, Vladimir Kozhin, aide to the President of the Russian Federation for military-technical cooperation, announced that Iran would receive from Russia modernized S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems. The contract came into effect on November 9, 2015. On April 11, 2016, a representative of the Islamic Republic's Foreign Ministry Hussein Jaber Ansari spoke about the receipt by Iran of the first batch of S-300 under a contract with Russia.

      On May 10, it became known that the Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems delivered to Tehran were adopted at the Iranian air defense base of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps "Hatam al-Anbiya". On September 21, the Iranian military demonstrated Russian S-300s at a parade in Tehran.
    4. karima
      karima 28 November 2020 10: 51
      +1
      Quote: mamontenok
      And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran, there are too many lobbies of the West and others in our power structures.
      How did they not put it, and what kind of copy the Jews cut two weeks ago, and how to copy without the original? You mikhan would have thought a bit before speaking.
    5. Pytnik
      Pytnik 28 November 2020 11: 11
      +5
      Don't you read anything other than this site? request in 2016 delivered 4 engines S-300PMU 2
    6. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 28 November 2020 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: mamontenok
      And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran, there are too many Western lobbies and others in our power structures ... They are waiting for confusion, well

      Do not understand. recourse

      13.10.2016
      Russia has completed the contract for the supply of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Iran. This was announced by the director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Alexander Fomin. 
    7. bayard
      bayard 28 November 2020 11: 33
      +3
      Quote: mamontenok
      And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran

      We delivered S-300 to Iran, four divisions. And now, after the arms embargo has been lifted from Iran, there are no restrictions at all on the supply of any types of weapons. So we can deliver the S-400, the Su-35, the Su-30, the MiG-35, the coastal Bastions (Onyx) and the Baly (X-35), and the electronic warfare systems, and " Pantsyri "with helicopters, radar and submarines.
      And passions about the S-300 have been boiling over the supply of S-300s to Iraq lately - the United States is protesting, banning and pressing.

      First of all, Iran needs to re-equip its air force.
      1. poquello
        poquello 28 November 2020 12: 15
        +1
        Quote: bayard
        First of all, Iran needs to re-equip its air force.

        first of all, Iran needs to bring counterintelligence to mind, otherwise terrorists blow up, shoot, finish off - and all this is inside the country
        1. bayard
          bayard 28 November 2020 13: 26
          +3
          Yes, but if you remember how in the 90s scientists, designers and nationally oriented politicians were exterminated ...
          But the puncture of the Iranian counterintelligence is obvious.
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 13: 07
        +1
        Quote: bayard
        So we can deliver the S-400, the Su-35, the Su-30, the MiG-35, the coastal Bastions (Onyx) and the Baly (X-35), and the electronic warfare systems, and " Pantsyri "with helicopters, radar and submarines

        and the key to the apartment. Are the Persians able to pay for all this music with their ability to pay?
        1. bayard
          bayard 28 November 2020 13: 33
          0
          Of course they are able, or do you think they just sat on the priest these years? They were waiting for this (lifting the arms embargo) like manna and getting rid of inferiority in weapons.
          They were ready to order at least 400-500 aircraft for civil aviation for a long time (of which at least 300 MS-21s).
          If necessary, they can ensure the trade balance by counter deliveries at a discount. Whether it be oil (it will go to India for refinery niches), even gold (they practice this), or some other agreed product.
          Incidentally, this is exactly how we trade with India, coordinating counter deliveries to ensure a balance in trade.
    8. Xscorpion
      Xscorpion 29 November 2020 10: 37
      0
      Quote: mamontenok
      They killed a nuclear scientist in Iran and now the AUG is being sent to the shores .. Well done Biden, he hasn’t even taken the case yet, but the hawks have already started - wars. There will still be toli! And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran, there are too many Western lobbies and others in our power structures ... They are waiting for confusion, well

      The last batch of S-300s was delivered to Iran at the end of 2016, since 2017, all the complexes are already on alert.
  3. lucul
    lucul 28 November 2020 10: 37
    -1
    "Message to Tehran on strengthening deterrence": US sends aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf

    The earliest decrees of Biden)))
    War with Iran is inevitable under his rule. Iran needs help within Vietnam and North Korea ....
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2020 10: 50
      +2
      Quote: lucul
      Iran needs help within Vietnam and North Korea ....

      After the recent Israeli air strike on the southern part of the Syrian province of Damascus, a number of Arab media reported that Russia is banning the Syrians from using the S-300 air defense system against Israeli aircraft. This statement was commented on by the former Israeli ambassador to Russia and Ukraine Zvi Magen. The diplomat recalled that at one time Russia supplied several S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria, allegedly “to punish” Israel for allegedly participating in the attack on a Russian plane. After some time, these complexes were transferred to the Syrian army. “Since then, there has never been a case that the Syrian air defense system was even put on alert. The Syrians really do not use the Russian S-300, because it cannot be done without the permission of Russia, ”the ex-ambassador said.

      “Russia and Israel have some kind of mutual understanding, agreements, if you like,” the diplomat said.
      According to him, Israel does not strike at Russian servicemen and facilities in Syria, and Russia "is quite careful and cautious about the Israeli presence."
      A direct link has been established and is constantly operating between the Israeli military and the Russian command in Syria. In addition, the parties agree on all their actions and know about each other's actions in advance.
      Magen stressed that Israel does not interfere in Russia's affairs in Syria and is completely neutral.
      “Russia is free to do whatever it sees fit in Syria,” the diplomat said and added, that at the same time Russia allows Israel to strike precisely at Iranian targets in Syria.
      1. Note
        Note 28 November 2020 13: 25
        +1
        Exactly. Well done. Exactly.
    2. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 28 November 2020 10: 52
      +1
      Iran is a tough nut to crack without help. These sharks will still break off their teeth on him.
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2020 10: 53
      +2
      Quote: lucul
      The earliest decrees of Biden)))

      No, not Biden, Biden only has an inauguration on January 20, so now Trump is still in control.
    4. faiver
      faiver 28 November 2020 11: 15
      +2
      Iran needs help within Vietnam and North Korea ....
      - so the USSR helped them, and where is he?
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 30 November 2020 08: 49
        0
        In the same place where he was. Millions of still living Soviet citizens, and the country is people. They voted for the USSR. Temporary workers seized power, not taking into account the will of the people.
  4. askort154
    askort154 28 November 2020 10: 37
    +3
    The White House and the CIA declined to comment on the New York Times

    Comments are superfluous! yes
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 28 November 2020 10: 46
      -1
      Quote: askort154
      Comments are superfluous!

      And they can say nothing except "like"
  5. Ascold1901
    Ascold1901 28 November 2020 10: 38
    +5
    In the event of a conflict, the aircraft carrier will no longer leave the bay. It is very easy for Iran to block the Strait of Hormuz.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 28 November 2020 10: 47
      0
      Quote: Ascold1901
      It is very easy for Iran to block the Strait of Hormuz.

      Need to hurry
    2. karima
      karima 28 November 2020 10: 55
      -2
      Quote: Ascold1901
      In the event of a conflict, the aircraft carrier will no longer leave the bay. It is very easy for Iran to block the Strait of Hormuz.
      And you can expand it, well, like the expansion of the Bosphorus, how can you wang it.
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 November 2020 10: 39
    +2
    If Iran had a vigorous loaf, you would not send their floating airfields. The Kims, "ate grass", but ensured the security of their country. It looks like the Iranians did not have time to rearm, Trump and his relatives will not lag behind.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2020 10: 48
      -3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      If Iran had a vigorous loaf, you would not send your floating airfields.

      Yadren loaf must still be able to correctly deliver to the "destination".
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 28 November 2020 11: 17
        +1
        So there is a delivery car, the Saudis will confirm! Or is it not Iranian among the Houthis? wassat
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 28 November 2020 11: 02
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      If Iran had a vigorous loaf, you would not send your floating airfields

      And imagine (for a minute) a loaf of nuclear weapons in Erdogan's hands. Have you presented? Now think about Iran. repeat
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 28 November 2020 11: 23
        +1
        Erdogan is still puffing and puffing with weapons-grade plutonium. True, he has US loaves in Engerlick. In light of the fact that the US trains partners to throw vigorous bombs, anything can happen at Erdogan.
    3. Note
      Note 28 November 2020 13: 26
      0
      It just appeared :-)
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 November 2020 10: 50
    +5
    Iran cannot be scared by AUG. How many times the Americans have sent their aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf to "intimidate" and "signal" Iran. Will chat for a while, and then "after completing the mission" sets off on his way. But Americans and Jews itch as much as they want to hit Iran, so it is difficult today to predict how everything might end.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 28 November 2020 10: 58
      +5
      The Persian Gulf is a good place for the AUG cemetery. what
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 19
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      How many times the Americans have sent their aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf to "intimidate" and "signal" Iran. Will chat for a while, and then "after completing the mission" sets off on his way.

      The road goes for the US taxpayers "pleasure trip" on an aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulfs of Oman. It would be much cheaper to hire a Queen Elizabeth 19 passenger idle because of Covid-2, but it would be comfortable and pleasant for everyone.
  8. Tank hard
    Tank hard 28 November 2020 11: 00
    +2
    It should be remembered here that Iran has always had views on a part of Russian territory, however. like Turkey. The heart may burn, but the head must remain cold. hi
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 12: 47
      +1
      Quote: Tank Hard
      It should be remembered here that Iran has always had views on a part of Russian territory, however. like Turkey. The heart may burn, but the head must remain cold. hi

      I also do not quite understand why the Persians are licked here? The primitive formula "enemy of my enemy ..."? Some narrow-minded people here want to stuff him with our weapons and almost offer to fight for him. The brains of the people were running out.
  9. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 12
    0
    The White House and the CIA declined to comment on the New York Times publication.
    The White House has no time for this now, Trump and his comrades are packing their suitcases, and Biden is collecting suitcases all over America. And the CIA, as a self-respecting watchdog, will not rush to bite without the FAS command. The States do not seem to have eliminated physics, and this is not the time for them. Look closer to Iran, they are always ready to bite, even without a command.
    1. poquello
      poquello 28 November 2020 12: 20
      +2
      Quote: tihonmarine
      The White House is now not up to this, Trump and his comrades are packing their suitcases, and Biden is collecting suitcases all over America. And the CIA, as a self-respecting watchdog, will not rush to bite without the FAS command.

      where did they get that the CIA is a watchdog? they are all there - guard cats, when they want then and piss in slippers
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2020 13: 14
        +1
        Quote: poquello
        where did they get that the CIA is a watchdog?

        If they were cats, not dogs, we would still live in the USSR.
        1. poquello
          poquello 28 November 2020 13: 22
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: poquello
          where did they get that the CIA is a watchdog?

          If they were cats, not dogs, we would still live in the USSR.

          I don't know if lions piss in slippers
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 November 2020 13: 37
            0
            Quote: poquello
            I don't know if lions piss in slippers

            Get a pet lion and then you will find out where he pisses.
  10. faiver
    faiver 28 November 2020 11: 18
    +1
    But I wonder what will happen if the Americans bang a nuclear warhead at Iran?
    1. Note
      Note 28 November 2020 11: 35
      -3
      If it is very interesting, I can say that it is Iran that is now preparing a retaliatory strike with the use of nuclear weapons. Therefore, with an approaching aircraft carrier and suitable cruisers of the Ticonderoga type, the United States brought about 40 nuclear charges in different designs and capacities. Who will start first. Here's the question. Of course I have an answer. But who cares?
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 12: 52
        0
        Quote: Note
        Of course I have an answer.

        oh, the Pentagon was transferred to a remote location? Well, well, share the insider laughing
        Quote: Note
        If it is very interesting, I can say that it is Iran that is now preparing a retaliatory strike with the use of nuclear weapons.

        not interested. The circle of alternatives is higher on the floor.
        1. Note
          Note 28 November 2020 13: 10
          -2
          What are you talking about? Prepare and apply different things. But a rough draft for the most extreme case is already ready. I'll even say more. Delivery to the United States and Israel will not be carried out using rockets or other traditional methods :-) smash your brains yourself. Alternate :-) :-) :-)
          1. Note
            Note 28 November 2020 13: 30
            -1
            And in general, what does the Pentagon and the remote have to do with it. Inside. What words. As if there are no other ways. The main thing is that the brains are not obese from burgers :-)
            1. faiver
              faiver 28 November 2020 13: 38
              +1
              The main thing is that the brains are not obese from burgers :-)
              - yes, yes, in a healthy body there is a healthy mind, or a brain laughing
            2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 13: 46
              -1
              Quote: Note
              The main thing is that the brains are not obese from burgers :-)

              but swollen with fat conspiracy theories?
              1. Note
                Note 28 November 2020 13: 56
                -1
                Ahh .. You mean it. Let us, after a while, read again all my comments on this topic, starting with the very first ones where it is said about a possible US strike on Iran, in the form of a warning to Israel. And you will see the big picture, including the possible murder of a scientist. Then talk again about conspiracy. It will be interesting.
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 13: 59
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                  Quote: Note
                  from the very first

                  sorry, I don't follow your comments. Not interested.
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                    Note 28 November 2020 14: 04
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                    This time it's worth it. The apocalypse certainly won't happen. Rather, it won't happen right away. And not from these incidents. But knowing the development of events is interesting to observe. But it doesn't matter. Why would I tell you this? Probably just boring. Bye
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                    Note 28 November 2020 14: 16
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                    By the way, I almost forgot. I left a comment for you. At 05.48 on 26.11.2020 Please read. It's about mysticism. Then write. :-) it will be interesting
                    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 14: 23
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                      Quote: Note
                      Please read.

                      do you think I'll be looking for your comment? Are you seriously? laughing
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                        Note 28 November 2020 14: 58
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                        I think you will. Hopefully. When I left him, I thought about our conversation. And I imagined how you would be surprised and doubt the reality that you have rebuilt for yourself :-) and then ask me, but how? How is this possible? Didn't I try in vain to write these lines in advance, and then you didn't read and didn't doubt? Sadness
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                        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 15: 00
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                        Sadness

                        well, well, don't be sad. Deficit of attention is unpleasant, but not fatal. laughing
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                        Note 28 November 2020 15: 04
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                        Yes indeed. Too much attention has been paid to you.
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        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 13: 48
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        Quote: Note
        smash your head like yourself.

        Why should I be afraid to break something over your apocalyptic chimeras? You like it - you fantasize.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 November 2020 13: 11
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    Quote: faiver
    But I wonder what will happen if the Americans bang a nuclear warhead at Iran?

    Very strong radioactive contamination of the entire Middle East, including Israel.
    1. faiver
      faiver 28 November 2020 13: 35
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      it is unlikely from one warhead
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2020 13: 36
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        Quote: faiver
        it is unlikely from one warhead

        I don't know, no one has tried it yet.
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      Note 28 November 2020 13: 48
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      Small-town. Roughly like the Chernobyl disaster.
    3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 13: 49
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      Very strong radioactive contamination total Middle East including Israel.

      Yes? And what kind of power are we talking about?
    4. atalef
      atalef 28 November 2020 14: 05
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      Quote: faiver
      But I wonder what will happen if the Americans bang a nuclear warhead at Iran?

      Very strong radioactive contamination of the entire Middle East, including Israel.

      Come on.
      Iran is not located in the Middle East, but 1700 km between us.
      Did you teach geography?
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 November 2020 14: 28
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        Quote: atalef
        Did you teach geography?

        what for? "Geography is a corrupt girl (insert the desired)" laughing
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 28 November 2020 14: 54
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        Really on the far, how geography is changing, I do not have time to follow. laughing
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2020 17: 09
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        Quote: atalef
        Come on.
        Iran is not located in the Middle East, but 1700 km between us.
        Did you teach geography?

        About hooked, got out, otherwise we wondered "Where did they go."
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 November 2020 11: 23
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    Meanwhile, the American edition of the New York Times, citing its own sources in the American intelligence services, claims that Israel is behind the assassination of Iranian nuclear physicist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh.
    Are there doubts?
    1. ender
      ender 28 November 2020 15: 37
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      "New York Times - Russia deliberately falsifies the facts of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing
      Russia is deliberately manipulating the facts of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing flight MH17 in order to get out of the water dry. This is written about with an article by the New York Times - "Why does Russia have an alternative history of flight MH 17" "


      Are there any doubts? (C)
      or "you don't understand! this is different" (c)
  • Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 28 November 2020 11: 36
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    Watch the video of 2012, when the elections in the United States were there, direct candidates called for the murder of nuclear scientists in Iran and Russia, one even the CIA killed our scientist and the states themselves, how many more CIA killed some in Russia, the memory was washed after receiving what was needed then they were found in other regions of Russia, they did not remember who they were who and what they worked on
    1. Note
      Note 28 November 2020 13: 06
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      Truth. And so it was. At the entrance, hit on the head with an iron pipe. And then there is silence in our media. About memory they washed nonsense. But it doesn't matter.
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        Note 28 November 2020 15: 21
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        The main factors that linked the series of deaths of scientists. The direction of reflective psychology, methods of controlling human behavior, biological weapons, microbiology and virology. Work at the Institute for Psychoprophylaxis of Terrorism.
    2. Bi-mac
      Bi-mac 29 November 2020 13: 21
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      I put a minus for the syntax. Rather, for its complete absence. I just got this vinaigrette of words and thoughts.
  • iouris
    iouris 28 November 2020 12: 22
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    This is the second aircraft carrier. The first aircraft carrier is Azerbaijan.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 28 November 2020 12: 52
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    Quote: Tank Hard
    It should be remembered here that Iran has always had views on a part of Russian territory, however. like Turkey. The heart may burn, but the head must remain cold. hi

    I also do not quite understand why the Persians are licked here? The primitive formula "enemy of my enemy ..."? Some narrow-minded people here want to stuff him with our weapons and almost offer to fight for him. The brains of the people were running out.

    It's like. The barn, the fire and the hut burned down ... Some were offended here by the decisive actions. Yes, but these are emotions. But in fact.
  • cniza
    cniza 28 November 2020 13: 02
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    The US has already said that the move "will serve as a message to Tehran to strengthen containment" amid increased tensions in the region following Tehran's statements against Israel and the United States.


    I have a suggestion that Trump might slam the door very loudly ...
    1. iouris
      iouris 28 November 2020 15: 22
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      Bender: "Citizen Skumbrievich, don't dive! Shura, launch Berlaga!"
      Berlaga: "Our Skumbrievich confessed. I could not stand the confrontation. I let you down."
  • Shahno
    Shahno 28 November 2020 13: 23
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    Quote: Aerodrome
    Despite the fact that Iran has no evidence that Israel is behind the liquidation of Mohsen Fakhrizade near the Iranian capital, experts draw attention to the fact that only Tel Aviv was capable of such actions, moreover, just a few days ago Israel prudently closed airspace over the occupied Golan Heights.

    According to experts, Tehran will take a decision to launch missile strikes, and the latter may well be nuclear, within the next 72 hours, and, apparently, it could be about several dozen ballistic missiles fired at the territory of the Jewish state. “Iran has already demonstrated its decisiveness against the United States, and therefore the strike on Israel does not raise any doubts at all - the only question is its effectiveness,” notes the Avia.pro specialist.

    Iran is unlikely to agree to such answers on Israel. All this is not in favor of the Iranian leadership ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 November 2020 14: 51
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    And he can drown there by chance. Well, you never know.
  • Old26
    Old26 28 November 2020 17: 40
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    Quote: Aerodrome
    According to experts, Tehran will take a decision to launch missile strikes, and the latter may well be nuclear, within the next 72 hours, and, apparently, it could be about several dozen ballistic missiles fired at the territory of the Jewish state. “Iran has already demonstrated its decisiveness against the United States, and therefore the strike on Israel does not raise any doubts at all - the only question is its effectiveness,” notes the Avia.pro specialist.

    Yes, Avia.pro is the coolest resource in the world. They print such shit that at least stand, at least fall. These authors from AVI.PRO will not accidentally suggest from what the Iranians "made" in their opinion their own nuclear charges? Camel shit? Prior to the 2015 agreement, Iran had more uranium enriched above 20% than it is now enriched to 5%. So even that amount was not enough to make at least one charge. And now, several dozen ballistic missiles will be launched at once, incl. and nuclear ...

    Quote: mamontenok
    They killed a nuclear scientist in Iran and now the AUG is being sent to the shores .. Well done Biden, he hasn’t even taken the case yet, but the hawks have already started - wars. There will still be toli! And we never delivered the S-300 to Iran, there are too many Western lobbies and others in our power structures ... They are waiting for confusion, well

    A connoisseur, however. True, the one who was banned after 9 posts, oh well. And two divisions near Tehran, one in Bushehr and one in Natanz - are they probably rubber inflatable? ...

    Quote: lucul
    So we will put the S-400)))

    It's good that we haven't delivered it yet. If you had started a zavorushka now, you would have received such image losses that later only some Zimbabwe would have taken S-400s from us, and even then, for free.

    Quote: bayard
    We delivered S-300 to Iran, four divisions. And now, after the arms embargo has been lifted from Iran, there are no restrictions at all on the supply of any types of weapons. So we can deliver the S-400, the Su-35, the Su-30, the MiG-35, the coastal Bastions (Onyx) and the Baly (X-35), and the electronic warfare systems, and " Pantsyri "with helicopters, radar and submarines.
    And passions about the S-300 have been boiling over the supply of S-300s to Iraq lately - the United States is protesting, banning and pressing.

    But what will he pay for all this stuff? Or again "for free" ??? Add then to the list atomic boats, ICBMs with nuclear warheads, strategic bombers of the Tu-60 type? Why waste time on trifles, sell everything like that ... and as they say, "to spite my grandmother's ears, I'll frostbite." After all, he is our closest ally, brother can be considered, since he makes noise against the Americans ...

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    Quote: Ascold1901
    It is very easy for Iran to block the Strait of Hormuz.

    Need to hurry

    And while wearing a stranglehold around your neck? Undermining the international path is to put yourself outside the law in front of the whole world. Then the conflict will not be the US-Iran, but the US + .... + ...... + ..... - Iran.
    There are no pipelines going outside Iran. They can only export oil by tankers. They will mine by prolonging - the Americans will plug the strait with it. So what? how long after that Iran will hold out without money. They already have a pipe-business with finances, and in general, they will close the last outlet. And of course it will affect the countries of the Persian Gulf, but not in the same way as on Iran. Toy de KSA has a pipeline through both Oman and its own territory to the Red Sea. Then it will only be possible to make a bet on how long the Ayatollah regime will last in Iran (they also have internal tensions)

    Quote: tralflot1832
    If Iran had a vigorous loaf, you would not send their floating airfields. The Kims, "ate grass", but ensured the security of their country. It looks like the Iranians did not have time to rearm, Trump and his relatives will not lag behind.

    Andrew! Do you seriously think that if a political decision is made to punish Iran, then 1-2 charges would save Iran, or North Korea, if it was the political will to destroy Kim's regime? Yes, the Americans would be such a gift (a nuclear strike on them), which they could not even dream of. For immediately the outcasts of the world would be countries that used all of their available 1-2 or 10 charges. Then they would be erased from the face of the planet ...
    Nuclear weapons can be a deterrent only if there is a large arsenal of both charges and delivery vehicles. And neither Iran nor the DPRK can boast of this.

    Quote: tralflot1832
    Erdogan is still puffing and puffing with weapons-grade plutonium. True, he has US loaves in Engerlick. In light of the fact that the US trains partners to throw vigorous bombs, anything can happen at Erdogan.

    As far as is known, after the attempted coup in Turkey, the Americans held some events with their nuclear weapons in Turkey. And I'm afraid that he is no longer there from the word at all. And it is stored somewhere in Deveselu (for example)
    And everyone taught to throw and teach. Both the Americans and we once taught this to the Germans, Poles, Czechs, Hungarians

    Quote: Note
    If it is very interesting, I can say that it is Iran that is now preparing a retaliatory strike with the use of nuclear weapons. Therefore, with an approaching aircraft carrier and suitable cruisers of the Ticonderoga type, the United States brought about 40 nuclear charges in different designs and capacities. Who will start first. Here's the question. Of course I have an answer. But who cares?

    Do you even know how many charges are on the American AUG? Can you also voice the nomenclature. And of course - "Iranian nuclear charge". exclusively on damage with enrichment up to 20% .....
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 28 November 2020 18: 11
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    The United States turned its arrows to Israel. They say they killed. That rare case when I tend to believe them.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 28 November 2020 20: 38
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    Now I will not be surprised at all if cargo Ruslans of the Russian Aerospace Forces begin to "urgently fly" to Iran. The time has essentially not been left. The strike will not be this year, so next, and given that the process of manufacturing air defense weapons is not fast, Iran is most likely will ask for an emergency purchase, well, that's an option
  • Old26
    Old26 28 November 2020 21: 28
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    Quote: APASUS
    Now I will not be surprised at all if cargo Ruslans of the Russian Aerospace Forces begin to "urgently fly" to Iran. The time has essentially not been left. The strike will not be this year, so next, and given that the process of manufacturing air defense weapons is not fast, Iran is most likely will ask for an emergency purchase, well, that's an option

    And I would be surprised if we take such a stupid step. Again for free, again for those who do not know how to operate these systems, again remove from service (if we are talking about the S-400) something at home in order to give it to the Persians for free. And given the fact that they do not know how to exploit this (it will take several months to train them), we can say with a guarantee that in the event of a conflict, the Americans will "take out" all the supplied complexes, which will be controlled by "crooked ... hands". Image loss is even difficult to imagine. But one thing can be said. Western propaganda will make 1000% of the destruction of our complexes, stating that despite the fact that we say that they "have no analogues in the world" they could not protect anything. It will take years to rebuild Iran's air defense system, which could withstand the attack of such an adversary as the United States. And Iran does not have these years. Therefore, our supplies of S-400 air defense systems will only harm us ...
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 30 November 2020 09: 19
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      Complete with calculations, but it makes no sense for free.