Erdogan intends to improve relations with the United States

Turkey expects to improve relations with the United States against the background of Joe Biden's coming to power, Ankara intends to revise the country's foreign policy. Bloomberg writes about this with reference to sources.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is preparing to revise the country's foreign policy and improve relations with the administration of the new American President Joe Biden. As the newspaper writes, Turkey fears the introduction of European sanctions against it because of its behavior in the Mediterranean. The European Union has already adopted a corresponding resolution.

Another reason for rapprochement with the United States is called the "growing disagreements" between Ankara and Moscow against the background of the divergence of interests in Syria and Libya. In addition, the agency writes, relations between the countries are deteriorating due to Turkey's invasion "into the backyard of Russia in the Caucasus" in the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Erdogan expects Biden to help Turkey improve relations with NATO partners. In addition, the Turkish president hopes that improved ties with the new American administration will increase Ankara's chances of purchasing advanced American weapons blocked by the previous administration headed by Trump.

Earlier, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Ankara is counting on a "new page" in relations with the United States after the inauguration of US President Joe Biden.

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[aszzz888]

Erdogan expects Biden to help Turkey improve relations with NATO partners. In addition, the Turkish president hopes that improved ties with the new American administration will increase Ankara's chances of purchasing advanced American weapons blocked by the previous administration headed by Trump.

The weather vane went into action!

[jovanni]

Quote: aszzz888

The weather vane went into action!

The problem is, he's not a weather vane. Rather, a frenzied fan that begins to blow in one direction or the other. It's easier with weathercocks ...

[stalki]

The problem is, he's not a weather vane. Rather, a frenzied fan that begins to blow in one direction or the other. It's easier with weathercocks ...

You underestimate it, this is just a cunning fan. He blows wherever he wants. From the position of the politician of his country, he is doing the right thing. There is nothing to blame him for. This is for us and the United States, he is mad. And they carry it in their arms.

[zlinn]

they don't like him very much at home, Erdogan is mainly supported by villagers and Islamists, in all large cities, and in resort areas, despite major manipulations in local excuses, his party regularly loses, big money loves silence, and the economic mess which he arranged is strongly disliked not only by local businesses but also by investors

[Tatyana]

Quote: stalki

You underestimate it, this is just a cunning fan. He blows wherever he wants. From the position of the politician of his country, he is doing the right thing. There is nothing to blame him for. This is for us and the United States, he is mad. And they carry it in their arms.

That's right! Erdogan is carried by Turkish Nazis, like supporters of the Turkish extremist Nazi organization "Gray Wolves".
The Gray Wolves group is a Turkish neo-fascist youth ultra-right organization of Turkomans-nationalists that supports ISIS, and it is a large paramilitary PARLIAMENTARY wing of the Nationalist Movement Party (MPR) of Turkey.

Erdogan is a pan-Turkist Muslim Nazi - the same as Hitler was for German Nazis in many countries!

Erdogan's regime enjoys the support of the extremist group “Gray Wolves.” • 29 Nov.

[Alex777]

My God ... Tatiana!

"Gray Wolves" (Tur. Bozkurtlar or Tur. Bozkurtçular, the official name of Tur. Ülkücülük - Idealists [2]) is a Turkish youth organization of ultra-right nationalists. It was created in the late 1960s on the initiative of Colonel Alparslan Turkesh under the patronage of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), with which it is sometimes identified. ... Is the most radical wing of the MHP, adheres to the ideology of Pan-Turkism and neo-fascism. She actively participated in the political violence of the 1970s, acted within the framework of the international anti-communist Gladio system. The organization's militants were accused of a number of murders and terrorist acts, including an attempt on the life of Pope John Paul II. Since the 1990s, she switched to the fight against the Kurdish separatist movement and ethnic and religious minorities. Since the early 2000s, he has been in opposition to Erdogan's Islamist party. After the death of Turkesh, it is headed by his successor Devlet Bahcheli.

And Vicki thinks differently.

[Tatyana]

By the way, the "Gray Wolves" have already participated in the attempted coup in Azerbaijan in 1995.

The hand sign of the "Gray Wolves" is the index finger and little finger raised upwards, while the middle, ring and thumb, gathered together, mean:
- index finger - adherence to Islam .;
- little finger - the universe on the planet:
- all countries united together.
Here is the sign.
It is remarkable who this sign shows! Learned?

He is shown in person by an ardent anti-Soviet and Russophobe with Jewish roots of her mother's parents from France, a Russian liberal woman and adherent of transatlantic globalism Elena Novodvorskaya.

It becomes clear that the "Gray Wolves" and Russian liberals have the same globalist transatlantic roots overseas - in the United States.

REFERENCE
The Turkish youth organization of ultra-right nationalists "Gray Wolves" was created in the late 1960s on the initiative of Colonel Alparslan Turkesh under the patronage of the GOVERNMENTAL Party of the Nationalist Movement (MPR), with which it is sometimes identified.
Is the most radical wing of the MHP, adheres to the ideology of pan-Turkism and neo-fascism.
She actively participated in the political violence of the 1970s, acted within the framework of the international anti-communist system Gladio (project and patronage of the US intelligence services).
The organization's militants were accused of a number of murders and terrorist acts, including an attempt on the life of Pope John Paul II.
Since the 1990s, she switched to the fight against the Kurdish separatist movement and ethnic and religious minorities.
Since the early 2000s, they have been in opposition to Erdogan's Islamist party.
After the death of Turkesh, it is headed by his successor Devlet Bahcheli.
The characteristic features of the "Gray Wolves" are the reliance on violence as a universal method of achieving goals and the cult of sacrifice in struggle.

"Gray Wolves" is a Turkish ultra-right nationalist organization supporting ISIS. Published: in 2016.

[Alex777]

I found one more zaboristy photo here.

Erdogan will not have friendship with Biden in such cases.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

By the way, Novodvorskaya is not the most terrible of our enemies - she did not hide her opinion, she went to the tank in a splash - a liberal up to her ears. You see her, you know her, you know what to expect from her, and that's all. Much more dangerous are those who are silent, but crap.
So I even respect Novodvorskaya in some way - for her frankness. Worthy opponent.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

So I even respect Novodvorskaya in some way - for her frankness. Worthy opponent.

Novodvorskaya is a Russophobe-vrazhina and hooray to the ears! And a mentally ill person. She dreamed of becoming a professional revolutionary in the country in which she lives - be it the USSR or capitalist Russia.
Abroad, destroyers like her are of no use to anyone. Her mental purpose in life was to shit where she lives.
Novodvorskaya is a schizophrenic patient. And it is not without reason that she spent 17 years in a mental hospital since the age of 20. The KGB men took pity on her - they thought that in a couple of years she would change her mind about what to send her to prisoners.
Doctors let her out of the madhouse during Gorbachev's perestroika, when complete collapse began in the country.
Even the police did not take her seriously - they just passed by.
When Novodvorskaya once announced on Russian TV that she was still a virgin at 42 years old, then I thought: what kind of our men are still smart!

Read her book, Beyond Despair. We at school would just beat people like her with the whole class so that she, in her antisocial extravagance and arrogant, would not be pampered in front of anyone at school.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Yes, I agree, she is a little out of this world. Abroad? I hear a person raised in the USSR - that's what they said then. What is my respect. I see no reason to defend my opinion - you are much closer to me than Novodvorskaya, so you are right.

[Alex777]

Novodvorskaya left us long ago.

[not main]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

By the way, Novodvorskaya is not the most terrible of our enemies - she did not hide her opinion, she went to the tank in a splash - a liberal up to her ears. You see her, you know her, you know what to expect from her, and that's all. Much more dangerous are those who are silent, but crap.
So I even respect Novodvorskaya in some way - for her frankness. Worthy opponent.

Worthy opponent? This is overkill! This is when the traitor became the enemy? More precisely for whom? And respect the traitor? Aren't you ashamed yourself? You would have said that in 1941!

[Sergey Averchenkov]

It's easy - when a person believes in something and does not hide it, this is an enemy, this is an enemy ... But you know that this is an enemy and act on this basis. I am ashamed. But that's how I think.

[Navigator Basov]

She is Valeria Novodvorskaya, esicho. And she showed not only this gesture, also, for example, the gesture of monotheism of the Wahhabis. Apparently, she was just provoking, she is a fat troll, it looks like she had a special photo session for this.

[Alex777]

Although Vicki may be wrong ...

[Alex777]

in spite of major manipulations in local excuses, his party regularly loses,

I would not say that he is losing. Remember how many people came out to defend him during the coup? And they demolished those military units that opposed Erdogan.

the economic mess that he made is strongly disliked not only by local businesses but also by investors

Most of the problems in Turkey and other countries today are associated with the coronavirus pandemic.
And his attempts to improve relations with Biden and get the same F-35, in my opinion, will not be successful. He will be required to abandon the ongoing independent policy, but for him it is like death and he will not go for it.

[aszzz888]

stalki (Sergei)
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The problem is, he's not a weather vane. Rather, a frenzied fan that begins to blow in one direction or the other. It's easier with weathercocks ...
You underestimate him, this is just cunning fan.

However, technoprogress! But he will never be an ally for Russia. So, a temporary travel companion.

[stalki]

But he will never be an ally for Russia. So, a temporary travel companion.

Moreover, a forced companion and it is better not to turn your back on him.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: stalki

From the position of the politician of his country, he is doing the right thing. There is nothing to blame him for.

Quite right. He squeezed too much this year. Syria, Libya, Mediterranean, Azerbaijan. You need to digest it all. Yes, and England forever cannot cover Turkey, it is still necessary to pay off the debts to the Britons.
By the way, they also put up with the Saudis. We are waiting for a war with Iran.

Niger hosted a meeting between the foreign ministers of Turkey and Saudi Arabia as part of the Saudi Arabian initiative to improve relations between the two countries.
Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu:
"A strong partnership between Turkey and Saudi Arabia is beneficial not only for our country, but for the entire region."

[bayard]

Yes, it is very likely that an alliance against Iran is being formed in the region, and in addition to the SA, Turkey seems to be ready to join it ... And behind their back Israel is clearly visible, which is the moderator of this process.
And to maintain the balance of power, Russia needs to help Iran with weapons.
For money .
Through the Caspian.
The containment of Turkey in the region must be carried out energetically, proactively and purposefully.
Payments for arms deliveries can be secured by counter deliveries (transactions in dollars are prohibited), gold (Iran practices such payments), or Chinese loans (China is unlikely to want to be officially involved in this conflict, but its economic interests in Iran are very great).

[OgnennyiKotik]

Iran is down the throats of everyone in that region. Saudis, Israel, Turkey, USA, England. Iran has a lot of economic, religious and national problems. The Kremlin is as weak as ever. China does not care at all, the main thing is to preserve economic interests, divided Iran will even be a plus. Iraq and Syria do not exist as states.
Too many enemies, too few friends. Divide Iran into 3-4 parts will be the plan.

[bayard]

Perhaps they plan to divide Iran, even into a large number of parts, but Russia needs to look at its interests in the region.
With the death of Iran, the role of Turkey and its desire to fulfill the dream of "Great Turan" will increase dramatically.
Do we need it?
We even got her present presence in Azerbaijan across the throat. Do you want them to blow up all of Central Asia with their Wahhabis?
Caucasus?
Volga region?
Ural?
Siberia?
And they are working on it.
With the collapse / partition of Iran, they will try to chop off the entire northern part of it - the so-called "South Azerbaijan" with its capital in Tabriz.
Are you ready to accept this perspective?
Are you ready to go to war with them on all these fronts alone?
But you have to.
And without allies.
If now we continue to swallow insults and challenges, and do not look after our vital interest.
Iran as a trading partner and sales market is very interesting for us.
They are ready to purchase at least 21 units of MS-300 alone.
And about 150 Super-Jets.
Moreover, ONLY in a purely Russian configuration.
For us, this order will pay off all the costs of import substitution in the industry. How will it pay off the entire cost of launching mass production.
And it will bring profit to the treasury.
And he needs combat fighters in the amount of 200 - 300 pieces.
And military transport aircraft.
And just transport.
... This is not for you to pump oil and gas, here are goods of the highest redistribution with the maximum added value.
And they buy our grain and are ready to buy a lot.
Or they can become a regional grain hub for our grain with elevators in the south of the Caspian Sea.
And as a counterbalance to the ambitions of Erdogan and Turkey in general.
And Saudi Arabia.

I do not harbor unnecessary illusions about the "loyalty" of the Persians. I look at questions pragmatically.
Do we need such a trading partner (with such requests for our and only our products)?
Needed.
Do we need a counterbalance to Turkey and the Saudis, as well as Israel and the United States, in the region?
Needed.
Will we get material, political and geostrategic benefits from our support for Iran?
YES .

So what's the question?

And one more question .
If a powerful regional conflict does break out in the Persian Gulf, will oil (and gas) prices rise?
Will the demand for OUR oil and gas grow?
Will there be a demand for WEAPONS, including those gathering dust in warehouses and storage bases?
Well, to get even with the hands of the Persians with the penguins for all their kindness ... isn't it a sacred thing?

The thing must be done.

[OgnennyiKotik]

I am sure that there are people in the Kremlin whose interests of Russia are in second place, after personal ones. What you write is absolutely true. But our government will need to give up assets in the west, return relatives to their homeland. They are not ready for this.

[bayard]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

I am sure that there are people in the Kremlin whose interests of Russia are in second place, after personal ones.

Yes, alas, but this is the reality. Only a political and historical collision sometimes turns out so that you want it or not, but you need to act RIGHT.
If Russia leaves Iran now, it will find itself in a terrible situation in which both businesses and the capital of the Kremlin rulers will suffer. After all, they are taken seriously ONLY as long as Russia represents something in the military-political and economic terms.
If the South flares up in our country ... it will not seem a little to anyone.
And the fugitive "arbiters" capital in emigration is very, VERY quickly ... confiscated.
As was the case with many.
And they UNDERSTOOD it.
Therefore, I say - willy / nilly, they will have to make the RIGHT decisions.
And with a BENEFIT for themselves and the state, to sell them weapons and everything necessary for defense.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

I am sure that there are people in the Kremlin whose interests of Russia are in second place, after personal ones.

And so these people took Crimea away from under the noses of the amers ... aha aha, I willingly believe Yes, a certain part of the elite has an interest in the West, but the most pragmatic ones have been playing their game for a long time, including Putin.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Crimea is important for Russia and Ukraine, a little for Turkey. The rest of the world doesn't give a damn about him. The Black Sea puddle plays no role for the world. But now the states of Russia and Ukraine are enemies forever. Therefore, such a mild reaction to this accession.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

But now the states of Russia and Ukraine are enemies forever

Oooh don't need so much pathos. There is no enmity in the general mass. We had a brigade from western Ukraine at the maintenance of the drilling rig in the Tomsk region, even during the period of active fighting near Donetsk.

[stalki]

Here you underestimated a puddle, I even think you underestimated it. All the Maidan fuss in Ukraine was started for (but not only, just to a greater extent) to establish an American naval base in the Crimea, as one of the strategic points in the aggression against Russia. So not the whole world is on her ...

[SSR]

Quote: bayard

Russia needs to help Iran with weapons

Why do we constantly have to support someone?
They didn't seem to ask us, and even for money.
Let China help them.

[bayard]

Quote from S.S.R.

They didn't seem to ask us, and even for money.

They asked.
Very much asked.
And of course FOR MONEY.
We were just VERY waiting for the arms embargo to end.
It's over.
And you are offering on the eve of a jackpot of tens of billions of dollars. just for the supply of weapons ... just spit on it all?
To please the US and Israel?
Is such concern for the enemies and partners worth those LOSSES and lost profits?
I doubt very much.
We have common enemies with Iran.
And common interests.
I am for pragmatism, commercial and geostrategic benefits.

And you ?

[SSR]

Quote: bayard

I am for pragmatism, commercial and geostrategic benefits.

And you ?

And where is your "pragmatism"? You attributed to me the pleasing of the United States, Israel, and so on.
"smart move", although it was not about that.
Good luck, I hope you will be in the forefront in the form of advisers in someone else's war, but I don't want capital to solve its problems with Russian blood. Go shit guardians, conquerors of neighbor's sofas.

[bayard]

Quote from S.S.R.

You attributed to me the pleasing of the United States, Israel, and so on.

You offered to REFUSE Iran in the supply of contracted weapons for real and considerable money.
So who are you sending?
Even involuntarily and through misunderstanding.
And who is calling you to another's war?
When Vietnam fought with the United States for its freedom and independence, we helped Vietnam.
And he won.
In a hard, long and bloody war.
But our soldiers did not die in that war ... Officers sometimes died. But they are still professionals and they were advisors and technical specialists there.
But still the Vietnamese fought there.
So why would I raise you from your couch to someone else's war?
This is the business of Iran and the Iranians.
But to deny them the supply of weapons, just because the United States and Israel will not approve of it ... how disgusting. And stupid. Iran intends to purchase large consignments of high-quality weapons from us. These are jobs, salaries, pensions, budget replenishment and the development of defense industry enterprises.
So why should we neglect all of this?
So don't be offended, I didn't want to offend you.

Quote from S.S.R.

I hope you will be in the forefront as advisors in someone else's war

It's already late for me, although I know that theater of operations quite well - I once served on the Iranian border in the Azerbaijan SSR. In the air defense. Command and control officer. Then the Iranian-Iraqi war just ended.

Quote from S.S.R.

but I don’t want capital to solve its problems with Russian blood.

Where will Russian blood come from there?
In Iran?
There is enough local for this.
But weapons, quality weapons, are not always enough.
Therefore, I think that, first of all, Iran needs the Bal and Bastion anti-ship coastal complexes, as well as the strengthening of air defense systems and the rearmament of its air forces with modern Russian aircraft.
And what's wrong with that?
For example, Egypt has bought many weapons from us in recent years ... And not a single Russian soldier was injured.
And India buys and buys a lot ...
And China ...
And Algeria ...
So what's wrong with Iran and how is it worse than Vietnam in the 60s of the last century?
Is it because Israel doesn't like him?
Don't you care that England wants to abolish this state (Israel) and resettle all Jews to Ukraine?
After all, an indispensable condition for such an evacuation / deportation should be the defeat of Israel in the war ... of course with Iran.
And nevertheless Israel is consistently moving towards fomenting this war.
Biden and the Clintons were just supporters of similar plans of England.
And Trump is not ...
Don't you care about the fate of Israel?
Syria?
Iraq?
Turkey?

But this is all not far from our Caucasian and Black Sea borders ...
And it will definitely affect us if it gets out of control.
If the balance of power is upset.
To bring the forces in the region to a balance, it is necessary to supply arms to Iran, which is lagging behind in a number of directions.
And the Soviet Union, although it was a socialist and social state, pursued a world policy of maintaining the balance of power.
And Russia cannot get away from this.
Otherwise, it simply will not.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Based on the ethnic composition and resources, you can estimate these 3-4 quasi states on the territory of Iran.

[bayard]

I know quite well the ethnic composition of Iranian society, and maps of a possible division have been drawn, in relation to Iran, more than once.
As with the division of the USSR and Russia.
But what prevents us from looking at the ethnic composition and historical motives, for example, of Turkish society?
And the state.
How are the Kurds?
Where is historical Armenia, and why did the fugitive Armenians end up in Karabakh?
And in the Erivan Khanate?
How are things going with the ethnic composition and religious and cultural preferences of the oil-bearing regions of Saudi Arabia?
After all, you can also take a pencil and draw a lot of things.
Russia is NOT PROFITABLE for the partition of Iran.
Russia benefits from Iran as a geostrategic and trade partner.
And as a balancer in the Middle East region.

But the further existence of such a state as Turkey is not at all interesting to us. For it brings more problems and troubles. Her Wahhabis throughout the country are regularly arrested.
So can you figure out the lair?
And not with your own hands, but with the hands of THAT coalition (anti-Turkish) which is obviously taking shape?
Who is in it?
Egypt
Greece.
Syria.
UAE.
France.
And a number of others.
Iran stands apart from this coalition.
But this is for now.
So it is not yet clear whose skin / territory will be divided into parts in the end.

And yes, England's plans include the elimination of the State of Israel with the resettlement of Jews to Ukraine.

So the future of the region is written with a pitchfork on the water.

But your interest is NECESSARY.


For Russia, this is Iran.

[OgnennyiKotik]

At the first attempt to go against the real interests of Britain and the United States, a blow will be struck at the assets of our government in the West. They are not ready for this. You cannot conduct a sovereign policy when the eggs of the "elite" are in the hands of the enemy.
Once again, the current Russian government does not contradict the interests of the "West", it does everything that is asked of it. And if the West wants to resolve the Iranian issue, then we will not be able to effectively resist. Not because there are no resources or it is beneficial for us, but because the corresponding orders will not be given.

[bayard]

I have already pointed out the motives that may well force our government to do the RIGHT thing.
For NO assets and eggs in the hands of the enemy will not be worth a damn if Russia is gone.
The elimination of Iran, as a state and a geostrategic factor, is a necessary condition for the inclusion of mechanisms for the elimination of Russia.
If this happens, no assets of our elite will help.
They know it.
That is why, since the beginning of 2000, a stake has been made on the restoration of Russia's military power and competence - as a guarantor of the preservation of its assets and SELF in power and privileges.
They understood this even then.
Therefore, even now they are fully aware of this.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: bayard

I have already pointed out the motives that may well force our government to do the RIGHT thing.

And the power is completely heterogeneous. The pragmatic have long understood that it is impossible to play honestly with the West. Yes, they will smile in their eyes, but they will play their game unambiguously. Otherwise they will be like Yanukovsch.

[Ilya-spb]

Those who improve relations with the United States and are friends with the United States, sooner or later lose everything.

Remember the USSR. And Russia under Yeltsin.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ilya-spb

Those who improve relations with the United States and are friends with the United States, sooner or later lose everything.
Remember the USSR. And Russia under Yeltsin.

Something like this. Even Henry Kissinger, when he was the US Secretary of State, said: "It's dangerous to fight with the United States, and it's mortally dangerous to be friends with the United States." In this regard, the optimism of Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu

that Ankara is looking forward to a "new page" in relations with the United States following the inauguration of US President Joe Biden.

is clearly not justified, because the "new page" will certainly provide for Ankara's abandonment of national priorities in the creep of US priorities.

[poquello]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Something like this. Even Henry Kissinger, when he was the US Secretary of State, said: "It's dangerous to fight with the United States, and it's mortally dangerous to be friends with the United States." In this regard, the optimism of Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu
that Ankara is looking forward to a "new page" in relations with the United States following the inauguration of US President Joe Biden.
is clearly not justified, because the "new page" will certainly provide for Ankara's abandonment of national priorities in the creep of US priorities.

let him be friends, they will turn his head away on the second try, and it does not matter who the US president is - Trump or Postal

[orionvitt]

Quote: stalki

From the position of the politician of his country, he is doing the right thing.

How to say it. Any far-sighted politician should understand that friendship with such "partners" as the United States usually goes so sideways that it will be too late to bite your elbows later. Americans have no friends in politics, they look at everyone, either as enemies or as "friends" who can always be sacrificed. For example, I do not know of a single country, which friendship with the states would bring "happiness". Usually, these ingratiations end in a complete loss of sovereignty, economic difficulties, degradation of statehood, color revolutions, or even direct intervention. As they say, tell me who your friend is, and I will tell you who you are.

[Sirocco]

Quote: stalki

He blows wherever he wants.

Oh, and you are all naive, but there were no disagreements between Turkey and the United States, and the so-called coup is the same as on September 11, 2001 in the United States, there was a need for an excuse to restart actions on the BV, the same is Turkey did, I suspect on orders from the regional office of business with an attempt to breed like a sucker of the Russian Federation.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

definitely watch ren tv less

[Sirocco]

Quote: Alexander Seklitsky

definitely watch ren tv less

What is Ren-TV? And where did you get such knowledge about this organization? Not as a former member of this society?

[Alexander Vorontsov]

Quote: stalki

And they carry it in their arms.

So worn that there was even an attempt to overthrow.
It is clear that they suppressed, etc. but these were only those who dared to act decisively.
How long do they sit in silence? A rhetorical question.

But the fact that he is cunning is a fact.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Jovanni

The problem is, he's not a weather vane.

He is Lukashenka's foster brother.
Both constantly twirl their jo multi-vector.

[siberalt]

To do this, they may ask Erdogan to part with the S-400 and shoot down another Russian plane in Syria. And what will happen to the gas pipe of the "Turkish stream" from Russia tied to the knot by Turkey is still not clear.

[bessmertniy]

One thing is clear that Erdogan will disrupt the next tourist season. It is unlikely that our Foreign Ministry will do without a statement that Turkey is harmful for recreation.

[siberalt]

Turkey is bad for recreation, that's for sure. And Russian resorts for the overwhelming majority of our residents are not expensive. In Altai, all hiking trails are already littered with Muscovites' feces. Animals from the taiga leave the stench.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Directly my thoughts, voiced. They are two relatives. If I still tolerate this Turk, then when I hear Lukashenko, I want to spit. Any dirtiest lady in the dirtiest den, in comparison with Lukashenka, is an example of decency.

[poquello]

Quote: siberalt

In Altai, all hiking trails are already littered with Muscovites' feces. Animals from the taiga leave the stench.

It means that Muscovites in Altai are fed poor-quality food

[YOUR]

Why part with the S-400? Submit it for study. And nuclear power plants can either refuse to build or nationalize. Or, even worse, make it dismantle.
And with a pipe. Here a few days ago, the article was like the Power of Siberia flew by, the Chinese abandoned it. It looks like the same expects with the rest of the pipes, almost all European countries are abandoning internal combustion engines (internal combustion engines) and switching to electric. Some by 2030, some by 2035, a complete ban on the production of internal combustion engines, also a rejection of the nuclear power plant by the same date. Considering that about 40% of our budget comes from the oil and gas needle, the country will have to sour.

[poquello]

Quote: YOUR

Here a few days ago the article was

and a few years ago there was an article, dreams - they are

[Guru]

almost all European countries are abandoning internal combustion engines (internal combustion engines) and switching to electric.

Switch to electro talkin And where does Electro come from?

[YOUR]

They design, do. Read more. For example, Japan has completely switched to the production of cars with a hybrid engine, while this is a transitional model, by the way, China quietly suddenly turned out to be ahead of the whole planet in the production and sales of electric cars, almost half a million units a year.

[Strannik96]

In order for Turkey to be an industrial country, it needs sources of electricity like air, most of it is currently obtained through natural gas - thermal power plants, hydro, in view of the drought - you cannot rely on them. Without gas and electricity, any country of the khan. Somewhere in 2040, the consumption of digital technology alone will be at the level of current consumption by all consumers. Russia is ready to sell both. Therefore, in the West they talk about independence from Russia - they understand where they get what they need from. Do not strain, the Kremlin has the necessary information and capabilities for the benefit of Russia.

[Bolt cutter]

a complete ban on the production of internal combustion engines, also the rejection of the nuclear power plant

The total capacity of all motor vehicles in Britain (this will be banned there in 2035 ) at times worries about the power of all power plants. Solar panels are ineffective, there are few forests. Where does the electricity come from?

[YOUR]

Ну и что?
You tell them this

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: YOUR

Some by 2030, some by 2035, a complete ban on the production of internal combustion engines, as well as a refusal from nuclear power plants by the same date.

seriously???? I hesitate to ask what will generate electricity ??? HES is evil, ICE is evil, nuclear power plant is evil. Before you broadcast this nonsense at least try to comprehend what you write? And also study the question, will there be enough rare earth materials for the production of batteries? Or are you an adept of Greta Tumberg

[YOUR]

You try not to scoff, but to read, you do not need to study not your level, programs of countries called Green Economy. And point out the inconsistencies you have identified by the governments of these countries, not me.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: siberalt

To do this, they may ask Erdogan to part with the S-400 and shoot down another Russian plane in Syria ...

... with the S-400 ...

Quote: bessmertniy

One thing is clear that Erdogan will disrupt the next tourist season. It is unlikely that our Foreign Ministry will do without a statement that Turkey is harmful for recreation.

What has the Foreign Ministry to do with it? Are you 100% sure that Russian citizens will ignore holidays in Turkey, sellers will refuse Turkish goods and vegetables?

[YOUR]

Especially when you consider the prices. It is not clear but to fly to Turkey, China, Egypt, Goa, Bali ... and relax there for the money is cheaper than ours. Unclear

[Deniska999]

All means are good to protect their interests.

[Finches]

This is yes! Erdogan needs to rush to make friends with Biden until Biden finally befriends Alzheimer's!

[halpat]

Quote: aszzz888

Erdogan expects Biden to help Turkey improve relations with NATO partners. In addition, the Turkish president hopes that improved ties with the new American administration will increase Ankara's chances of purchasing advanced American weapons blocked by the previous administration headed by Trump.

The weather vane went into action!

Not a weather vane :) but a sultan with low social responsibility :)
he has muddied so much around Turkey, but there is not enough strength, that and look, the fly will break, Without outside help, you cannot sort out what he has done.

[g1v2]

It won't help him. The states have written him a black mark and will try to overthrow him without promises. On the contrary, he had a relatively business relationship with Trump. It was the democrats who armed the Kurds and the putsch were organized by the democrats in their time.
Well, in general, before Erdogan's party came to power, Turkey was a loyal dog on a NATO leash. Its military, faithful to the precepts of Ataturk, overthrew any government that tried to become independent. It was NATO's faithful cannon fodder. The coming to power of the Sultan, dreaming of Turkey's return to the Ottoman Empire and promoting his interests, NATO simply slept through. They already tried to remove it with our hands - it did not work. But they will continue to try. Plus, they already have a candidate for replacement - the ideologist of Pan-Turkism Gulen is sitting in Pennsylvania.
Well, we will continue to help the Sultan to stay in power. As VVP said, it is quite negotiable with us. Anyone who takes his place will be worse for us.

[NDR-791]

Ankara intends to revise the foreign policy of the state.
ABOUT!!! Another "multi-vector".

[Russ]

ABOUT!!! Another "multi-vector

butt would not have torn ...

[NDR-791]

To each other ... Exceptionally and only so !!!

[YOUR]

He also spoke about Putin. And Putin about Erdogan. So what? Politics, she is smiling, kissing and figs twisting in karmada.

[Doccor18]

Multi-vector ...
He got everything he wanted from Russia. But from the USA, no. Therefore, we need to get closer to the United States. The F35 should go to the Air Force, not now, so later ...

[Lech from Android.]

How many friends Russia has ... friend of Lukashenko, friend of Erdogan ... to milk and milk them from both Russia and the United States.

[NDR-791]

What is he there with the United States will milk it without a difference. I'm really interested in what we have so much from Taipycha? Well, not just tomatoes?

[bessmertniy]

Friendship blackmail will ruin not only Russia, but also the United States and Europe.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lech from Android.

How many friends Russia has ... friend of Lukashenko, friend of Erdogan ...

Yes, okay ... And your friend SeungPinTzu? And korefan Netunyahu? And Frau's friend? Half of the heads of African countries go with brothers and sisters ...

[sniperino]

Quote: ROSS 42

The floorboards of African heads walk

The floorboard is also in Africa, you know ... Screw it to the log with a self-tapping screw and that's it, they won't walk.

[Mouse]

Quote: Lech from Android.

How many friends Russia has ... friend of Lukashenko, friend of Erdogan ... to milk and milk them from both Russia and the United States.

No friends and no girlfriends ...
We are our own pi ......... friend

[Russ]

Ankara looks forward to a "new page" in relations with the United States after the inauguration of US President Joe Biden.

Well, in a well-known position ... and bend over better ...

[Lech from Android.]

Well, in a well-known position ... and bend over better ...

The Turkish lira is rapidly depreciating against the dollar ... in order to save the lira, the Turkish sultan will bend as ordered.

[Renator]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Turkish lira is rapidly depreciating against the dollar ... in order to save the lira, the Turkish sultan will bend as ordered.

They go on a par with the ruble, in Russia, too, the economy is not so hot! So here in Russia they don't eat caviar either.

[poquello]

Quote: Renator

They go on a par with the ruble, in Russia, too, the economy is not so hot!

what a nafig level, don't make people laugh

[Renator]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Renator

They go on a par with the ruble, in Russia, too, the economy is not so hot!

what a nafig level, don't make people laugh

How much did the dollar and the euro cost a year ago in Russia? You become ridiculous how oil becomes a little cheaper and the ruble immediately goes down, so don't be okay

[poquello]

Quote: Renator

Quote: poquello

Quote: Renator

They go on a par with the ruble, in Russia, too, the economy is not so hot!

what a nafig level, don't make people laugh

How much did the dollar and the euro cost a year ago in Russia? You become ridiculous how oil becomes a little cheaper and the ruble immediately goes down, so don't be okay

1 dollar in 2016 - 79 rubles, in 2019 - 66 rubles, in 2020 - 76 rubles,
1 dollar in 2016 - 3 lira, in 2019 - 5 lira, in 2020 - 8 lira

Quote: poquello

what a nafig level, don't make people laugh

[Renator]

Quote: poquello

1 dollar in 2016 - 79 rubles,

and in 2014 -30 I face currency every day, so

[poquello]

Quote: Renator

Quote: poquello

1 dollar in 2016 - 79 rubles,

and in 2014 -30 I face currency every day, so

and? collide with currency and do not know how to count? in 14m lyre 2,22

[bessmertniy]

This Erdogan strives not to substitute himself, but to jump on another!

[Russ]

Quote: bessmertniy

This Erdogan strives not to substitute himself, but to jump on another!

As you understand with the states, this will not work ... they themselves want to jump, on everyone and everything the exceptional love the exceptional position ...
Lustful byaki ...

[Thrifty]

If only Erdogad brings the S400 to the USA, or in Turkey, the American military and experts sit in the control chairs of the complex and receive documentation for it, then the sultash will be "forgiven, and then not for long, until they find a replacement for him. The same Gulen, for example, for his they will not sit down, because the sultan "broke off the chain" - he took too much on himself, yes, apparently, he overstrained himself. And Europe needs to continue to show the sultan that he is not a sultan at all, but an imitation of the sultan in power of turkey ...

[New Year day]

I had fun in Syria and the Caucasus - now you can return to the fold

[mitroha]

Bloomberg writes about this with reference to sources.

So so proof

[Toucan]

Erdogan intends to improve relations with the United States

I wonder what the "patriots" who asserted that Turkey is about to leave NATO will sing now?

[New Year day]

Quote: Tucan

I wonder what the "patriots" who asserted that Turkey is about to leave NATO will sing now?

Like what! - Multi-move!
That Turkey, that China - 2 boots-pair

[Ros 56]

Well, let's see how this multi-vector Erdogan will end, because the GDP may not warn.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Ros 56

after all, GDP may not warn.

About what? That nerve gas will be allowed through the South Stream pipeline? Gromyko Andrei Andreevich could not have warned:

[poquello]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Ros 56

after all, GDP may not warn.

About what? That nerve gas will be let through the South Stream pipeline?

who about what ..?
coup in Turkey not the Americans tried?

[Ros 56]

By chance you do not live on the moon, it is only from there you can not see anything except pipelines, but here you know, do you know political squabbles, they are not visible through a telescope.

[cniza]

Erdogan intends to improve relations with the United States

This should have been expected and the United States would do it ...

[rocket757]

How many different events for them .... there will, will not be, as soon as the new owner enters the temple on the hill !!!

[cniza]

There will be even more events, but for us it will only be an additional headache. Greetings!

[rocket757]

Welcome
We really, at least this way, at least that way, with not a big difference in the degree of nasty, maybe a little spaced in time ...
You don't even have to guess about it!
But foreign, different hopes cherish !!! Which is not entirely clear, since the decisions, radical, are made not by those on the hill, but by some other, serious guys! And their goal is always the same.

[cniza]

These guys showed how to conduct elections in the United States - "they said luminescence means luminescence" ...

[rocket757]

This is yes. The whole world, they do not rule, but on their own hill, they decide as they need.
Nothing unexpected, in principle.

[cniza]

And after all, Trump knew what they would do and still could not resist ...

[rocket757]

Someone's BABOSIKI hooked, pretty ... also the infection plays against him, not weakly so.
In general, one to one.
But many are of the opinion that after those who are puppet-mastering Biden, they will need the next type of Trump, only in a square, or even in a cube !!!
This, of course, if the world does not fly away to the Tartars by that time!

[askort154]

Erdogan expects Biden to help Turkey improve relations with NATO partners.

Erdogan no longer demands the extradition of Gulen. London offered him a new, big game against Russia. Arrange in the Caucasus and Syria, petty "skirmishes" with Russia, in order to then declare to the UN that Russia threatens the security of Turkey, and she, according to the Montreux Convection, is forced to close the Bosphorus for Russia to enter the Mediterranean Sea. This will be the strongest blow of the Anglo-Saxons in the "under the belly" of Russia. It seems that Erdogan agreed to this. He will again become a friend of NATO and the United States.

[tralflot1832]

Okay, he will cancel Montreux, so what about the war? I take Chacha meat and watch the glow over Istanbul on Mr. Akhun!

[Brturin]

Quote: askort154

London offered him a new, big game against Russia.

It is an island, of course, but it is no longer in the EU, but there is also a continent - Greece and Cyprus, with the support of France, are demanding sanctions against the Turks, the Germans are searching a Turkish ship ... apart from playing with the island, you need to make friends here too .. the Greeks and the French can push up ....

[Prisoner]

A large fez rushes about. Not good. Under the Democrats in power in the United States, they have already tried to overthrow him. Let him wait for the second try.

[flicker]

Under the Democrats in power in the United States, they have already tried to overthrow him.

Still, they spent so much effort and money to turn Turkey in the direction of neo-Ottomanism, they were looking for the neo-Ottomans for a "sultan" (a heated Ottoman and ignoramus), but they found it with difficulty.
Forced to bring down the "drying" and joyfully awaited the war between Russia and the neo-Ottomans.
Suddenly, instead of the war, Russia offered the "Sultan" to apologize and he apologized - which simply infuriated the Anglo-Saxons.
After that, they wanted to throw him off, since they did not set him to be the sultan so that he would apologize.
---

Let him wait for the second try.

Moreover, it will be the last one.

[tralflot1832]

Until Gulen is handed over to Erdogan, there will be no improvement in relations with the United States. You never know what Bloomberg wants to bow to the Sultan, tearing his hair in different places and shouting: Forgive us, Sultan, we are unreasonable fools! Then maybe something will work out. that many petitions are served to them. Now it's their turn!

[Gennady Fomkin]

The head of the Turk is not sickly pinned, and he wants to get resources from the "partners"

[Dmitry Makarov]

America is now itself in agony, it only lacks such an ally as Erdogan, for complete happiness.

[evgen1221]

And what do the Turks make it difficult for the Amerigu ?, one stroke and the Turks on our way to the cost of being driven by sanctions and other delights of democracy.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

Interestingly, Trump did not give up power, but Erdogan hopes. Again, the media wishful thinking.

[evgen1221]

Biden is the arrival of the old understandable order for many of America's allies - Trump is a reformer. Here, on the eve of the return of the usual times, the Sultan is fussing - it will not be worse for the Turks from this for sure. Quite logical body movements.

[Mamontenok]

Erdogan whined, Biden is a terry Russophobe and will lead a brutal policy against Russia ..
Let's break through again! Soon on all cars in Russia "Biden ..."

[APASUS]

How can he improve his relations with the Americans? Selling them the S-400, as an option

[Mamontenok]

Quote: APASUS

How can he improve his relations with the Americans? Selling them the S-400, as an option

Start anti-Russian rhetoric and threats to peacekeepers in NGOs, the Black Sea, etc.
Ukraine already supplies UAVs, etc. Once again knock something down and apologize, etc. Russia is silent and Putin too

[rotmistr60]

Ankara looks forward to a "new page" in relations with the United States

And for this, the best option is to arrange a large Russian scum. Biden applauds, presses Erdogan to his stunted chest, sheds an old tear and orders everyone to love Turkey.

[karima]

Erdogan tries to play 3 moves in advance, sometimes it turns out sometimes not. In the case of F35, the American establishment is against, only Biden will not help.

[spectr]

Well, yes there is someone to be friends against. And if hostilities begin, then Armenia can be blocked from all sides (in terms of the supply of weapons, ammunition) and crushed with the help of mercenaries.
And the Russian peacekeepers will be asked to step aside or they may also suffer.

[iouris]

Erdogan is lying. The relationship did not deteriorate.

[askort154]

BrTurin-
It is an island, of course, but it is no longer in the EU, but there is also a continent - Greece and Cyprus, with the support of France, are demanding sanctions against the Turks, the Germans are searching a Turkish ship ... apart from playing with the island, you need to make friends here too .. the Greeks and the French can push up ...

It's too late to drink Borjomi EU. They are today not only under the Anglo-Saxons, but also under "Islam". Even the SP-2, which is profitable for them, cannot decide independently. The Anglo-Saxons framed "not only everything around Russia, but also brought Old Europe to its knees. England left the EU for a reason.
The Anglo-Saxons, while everything is going according to their plan. And the Germans did not search the Turkish ship, they only made an attempt, but for some reason they quickly "settled down".

[Shahno]

Quote: bayard

I know quite well the ethnic composition of Iranian society, and maps of a possible division have been drawn, in relation to Iran, more than once.
As with the division of the USSR and Russia.
But what prevents us from looking at the ethnic composition and historical motives, for example, of Turkish society?
And the state.
How are the Kurds?
Where is historical Armenia, and why did the fugitive Armenians end up in Karabakh?
And in the Erivan Khanate?
How are things going with the ethnic composition and religious and cultural preferences of the oil-bearing regions of Saudi Arabia?
After all, you can also take a pencil and draw a lot of things.
Russia is NOT PROFITABLE for the partition of Iran.
Russia benefits from Iran as a geostrategic and trade partner.
And as a balancer in the Middle East region.

But the further existence of such a state as Turkey is not at all interesting to us. For it brings more problems and troubles. Her Wahhabis throughout the country are regularly arrested.
So can you figure out the lair?
And not with your own hands, but with the hands of THAT coalition (anti-Turkish) which is obviously taking shape?
Who is in it?
Egypt
Greece.
Syria.
UAE.
France.
And a number of others.
Iran stands apart from this coalition.
But this is for now.
So it is not yet clear whose skin / territory will be divided into parts in the end.

And yes, England's plans include the elimination of the State of Israel with the resettlement of Jews to Ukraine.

So the future of the region is written with a pitchfork on the water.

But your interest is NECESSARY.


For Russia, this is Iran.

Did the Queen tell you that? You have not been mistaken for a century ... Great Britain. She had an interest in BV until they were thrown out as a result of the liberation wars.

[Old Horseradish]

A whole herd of zombies squealed for years that Turkey is our friend, ally, that together with Turkey we will make NATO and the United States. Now this herd is also raving about China. The result will be the same.

[Navigator Basov]

Look, you changed your shoes in the air.

[flicker]

Erdogan intends to improve relations with the United States

The states are ready to improve their relations with Turkey ... but not with Erdogan.
So Erdogan shakes his mane and knocks his hoof in vain.

[Gennady Fomkin]

How an ethnic Georgian has alarmed the world's anthill

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Old Horseradish

A whole herd of zombies squealed for years that Turkey is our friend, ally, that together with Turkey we will make NATO and the United States. Now this herd is also raving about China. The result will be the same.

Old fuck, as always, got his finger in the hole THE TURKISH REPUBLIC is an important partner and not an ally so by

[KreAtiF]

Quote: zlinn

they don't like him very much at home, Erdogan is mainly supported by villagers and Islamists, in all large cities, and in resort areas, despite major manipulations in local excuses, his party regularly loses, big money loves silence, and the economic mess which he arranged is strongly disliked not only by local businesses but also by investors

And they are not rural people, and what is the ratio of people living in cities in relation to "rural"? It doesn't seem to you that the bulk of the population is "rural" and they support Erdogan ...

[TatarinSSSR]

The President of Turkey is like a lady of easy virtue - jumping from one to another ...

[nobody75]

Physicists of Iranian were killed ... The Saudis have made peace with Qatar ... The partition of Iran is being prepared, and Erdogan wants to take part in it ... Will they let him in?
To whom did our troops in Karabakh spoil the game?
Sincerely

[Chervonny]

Quote: nobody75

Saudis reconciled with Qatar

Not yet. Not reconciled.
According to the Financial Times, the desire to end the blockade of Qatar is seen as an attempt by the Saudi prince Mohammad bin Salman to win Biden's favor, and it could also be a "farewell" gesture towards the current American leader Donald Trump.
For its part, Qatar wants to fulfill a number of preconditions for reconciliation. According to the diplomat, among them may be measures to "build confidence", in particular, the lifting of the air embargo. Another measure is to allow the movement of Qatari citizens to countries that have imposed the blockade.
https://ria.ru/20201128/bayden-1586731427.html

[nobody75]

I think they will make up. Because the problems with the budget deficit unite.
Sincerely

[Diviz]

There are more born souls living there.

[Owl]

There is reason to hope for an improvement in relations: the "new Ottoman Empire" has fulfilled its task - it struck a blow at Christianity and indirectly hit the authority of Russia.

[Tektor]

And Erdobaran has already made a mistake, and his fate no longer depends on him. He went to military cooperation with the Nazi Bukra, and his weapon will attack Russian soldiers. And now, when it dawned on him what he had done, it was too late to "drink Borjomi". I ran for the roof.