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IMF refused to provide Ukraine with financial assistance

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IMF refused to provide Ukraine with financial assistance

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has refused to allocate a tranche to Ukraine under the emergency financial assistance program. This was stated by the Minister of Finance of Ukraine Serhiy Marchenko.


According to the minister, Kiev considered the issue of raising funds within the framework of emergency financial assistance (emergency financing), but the IMF refused to provide funds, stating that it was necessary to work within the framework of the current program and fulfill its conditions.

But I will tell you the answer of our partners from the International Monetary Fund: Dear Ukraine, you have a program, so please, we are ready to cooperate on this program. We are not currently considering the issue of emergency financing for you

- said Marchenko.

Earlier, the European Union refused to provide financial assistance to Ukraine. As the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell said in a conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Kiev should not perceive the European Union as a charitable organization or an ATM for withdrawing money. The EU has allocated 500 million to Kiev to fight the coronavirus, but part of this money was spent on road rehabilitation.

Recall that in early June, the IMF approved the allocation of $ 5 billion to Ukraine under a new program, designed for 1,5 years. Kiev has already received the first tranche of 2,1 billion, but the IMF does not allocate new funds, which should have been received by the end of the year. Most likely, Kiev again failed to fulfill a number of IMF requirements.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 28 November 2020 07: 45
    +38
    Nothing, they will jump a little and give them money.
    For 404 is now an abscess on the body of Russia.
    Well, or a stinking corpse under the threshold.
    1. Russ
      Russ 28 November 2020 07: 54
      +26
      Yes, they will, they will, they will ... wassat
      They will hold back the maleho, so that they would be more pleasant
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 November 2020 08: 06
        +8
        Well, now I will say it without a piece of paper (applause).
        I will give a lesson in literate speech
        Yes, they will, they will, they will ...

        I will, I will. Yes.
        1. Russ
          Russ 28 November 2020 08: 13
          +10
          I will, I will. Yes.

          It's always nice when you are understood ... love
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 28 November 2020 14: 51
            +7
            I think that the modern leadership of Ukraine perfectly understands what exactly the West needs from the country 404, and only pretends that it allegedly does not understand anything about this and completely trusts the West, thereby zombifying ordinary Ukrainians.

            And the West / USA does not need a rich Ukraine. nor the rich Republic of Belarus, etc.
            On the contrary, the West / USA is driving Ukraine into poverty, and Belarus is trying to drive it into poverty! In which the entire male population can find work in their country only in the armed forces with participation in the war with Russia.
            It is for this that the West / USA are doing everything to make it so.
            R.Belarus under Tikhanovskaya is in for absolutely the same!

            The best thing about this was said by the Russian political scientist Sergei Mikheev. Watch the video from 23:00 min.
            And I completely agree with him.
            And it would be good to listen to this "maydanut" Ukrainians and protikhanov Belarusians, as well as all other pro-Westerners in the post-Soviet space.

            Thieves, such as Yeltsin, Gaidar and Khodorkovsky, sawed through the country's economy. November 27, 2020
        2. Pilot
          Pilot 28 November 2020 08: 38
          +3
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          Well, now I will say it without a piece of paper (applause).
          I will give a lesson in literate speech
          Yes, they will, they will, they will ...

          I will, I will. Yes.

          I look at the image of the teacher, Marivanna, entered ... tongue will give implementation?. laughing

          Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich (Flavius ​​Vespasianovich)
          Yesterday, 09: 19

          +8
          If I meant
          Which end?

          then "finally" was written separately, i.e. "at the end", direction. Don't you understand the difference between "finally" and "at the end"?
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 November 2020 08: 50
            +13
            What is your question? Procedural? Burn.
            1. Pilot
              Pilot 28 November 2020 09: 03
              +15
              I understand your reaction. The number of cases increased and the need for implementation increased. Dadudaduda. laughing
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 November 2020 09: 15
                +7
                What is it ?! They all lay down and lay down!
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 28 November 2020 20: 05
                  +2
                  No wonder, it always happens with frivolous courtesans: they promised, lured, used and ... abandoned! Maybe they will again promise and give it a little when they want to again ... yes lol
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        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 November 2020 10: 33
          +5
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          I will, I will. Yes.
          We are not considering the issue for you now. emergency finance. Beggars are only served on the porch, but not at the IMF.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 November 2020 10: 49
            +9
            We are not currently considering the issue of emergency financing for you. Beggars are only served on the porch, but not at the IMF.

            A situation that completely repeats the nineties. When the bandits gave small merchants money "for promotion", and then squeezed dry and drove out into the cold, figuratively speaking.
            One friend of mine is right. Europeans, including Americans, are thieves and murderers.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 24
              +7
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              A situation that completely repeats the nineties. When the bandits gave small merchants money "for promotion", and then squeezed dry

              Rightly noted, although those who are in the IMF and those who are "lads", they are made of the same dough and differ in that our brothers are smarter and put on the "counter", so we need to suggest this idea to the IMF.
        5. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 28 November 2020 10: 54
          +8
          Ukrainian diplomacy did a poor job orally. Poorly! This is a fiasco!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 26
            +4
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            Ukrainian diplomacy did a poor job orally.

            We need to send them to Paris for practice, they will teach them how to do this correctly.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 28 November 2020 12: 23
              +6
              We need to send them to Paris for practice, they will teach them how to do this correctly.

              Nothing will help them, it's obvious. No matter how much you jump. bully
              Most likely, Kiev again failed to fulfill a number of IMF requirements.

              And what, the author is not aware of what exactly Ukraine did not fulfill, after which everyone in the West immediately said that they would never give a cent again? wink
              So everything is known and we are talking not only about money but also about the border too:
              The Constitutional Court of Ukraine has abolished a number of anti-corruption norms in the legislation, including criminal liability for declaring false information. A number of opposition parties said that the Constitutional Court's decision could have negative consequences for Ukraine's European integration. The Internet edition "Evropeyskaya Pravda", citing a letter from the Ambassador of Ukraine to the EU to the Deputy Prime Minister for European and Euro-Atlantic Integration, reported that the EU may suspend the visa-free regime with Ukraine in connection with the decision of the Constitutional Court.

              This violates the entire system of anti-corruption reform, the adoption of which was one of the requirements for granting Ukraine a visa-free regime with the European Union. Anti-corruption laws were also a condition for providing financial assistance to Kiev from international lenders. The office of the President of Ukraine called these actions of the Constitutional Court illegal and not taken in the interests of the country. The government ordered to resume access to the registry bypassing the court decision.

              And bypassing the decisions of the Court is impossible under the Constitution of Ukraine. request
              Thereafter:
              Zelensky asked the Verkhovna Rada to dismiss all judges of the Constitutional Court, despite the fact that, according to the current constitution of the country, neither the president nor parliament has such a right.
              laughing
              The head of the Constitutional Court said that such an initiative of the president has signs of a constitutional coup.
              laughing
              On Saturday, the Venice Commission of the Council of Europe published a letter to the speaker of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, Dmitry Razumkov, in which it expressed concern about Zelensky's hasty proposal to parliament to terminate the powers of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine ahead of schedule and noted its readiness to help develop concrete solutions to resolve the situation.
              The Venice Commission stressed that the termination of the powers of judges of the Constitutional Court would be a flagrant violation of the Ukrainian basic law in terms of the separation of powers.

              This is how 45 deputies of Kolomoisky and Medvedchuk (a fancy alliance) pushed the President, the Government and all of Ukraine.
              Zelensky took off, realized that he could not do anything and "fell down with the coronavirus." laughing
              The fact that the other day there was news about an urgent desire to talk to VVP, it is quite possible that this situation was dictated. bully
              https://ria.ru/organization_Konstitucionnyjj_sud_Ukrainy/
          2. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 28 November 2020 12: 54
            +1
            This is an oral fiasco!) And they tried so hard ...
      2. nnm
        nnm 28 November 2020 08: 28
        +20
        I like the fact that not only in Ukraine, but even here, loans are called beautifully - "financial assistance"! It doesn't matter that this is bondage for many generations further, but the loan does not sound so beautiful as help !!! Have
        Already more than 40% of the budget for the year is "help", and everyone is recruiting and recruiting !!! The feeling that they are living the last day. It's just that they are already taking a new "help" to pay for the interest on the old one, but the ambition is ...
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 28 November 2020 08: 50
          +7
          Quote: nnm
          I like the fact that not only in Ukraine, but even here, loans are called beautifully - "financial assistance"! It doesn't matter that this is bondage for many generations further, but the loan does not sound so beautiful as help !!!

          Simply because all these officials in Ukraine, including the Minister of Finance Marchenko himself, will steal most of this loan, which is why they call it "help" in order to continue to fool the pan-headed prancing electorate laughing ... And in principle, they do not replace concepts. These loans for them are in fact help in their future comfortable old age, they will not pay the loans, but the Sumerians.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 28 November 2020 10: 13
            +3
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            These loans for them are in fact help in their future comfortable old age, the loans will not be paid by them, but by the Sumerians.

            That's why it's obvious to everyone that the cut of the boneheads themselves request
            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya 28 November 2020 10: 24
              +3
              That's why they are pan-headed. Only a creature with low intelligence will pull the pan over itself and start jumping.
              1. Lionnvrsk
                Lionnvrsk 28 November 2020 10: 47
                +5
                Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                That's why they are pan-headed.

                Such are they creatures! Take, for example, their minister Krikliya. At first, he wanted to deceive the security service of Kazakhstan and slipped them a fake coronavirus test. Then he wrote everywhere that it was a fake. Even the government of Kazakhstan had to confirm this incident. Then he boasted on the Internet that they "put the squeeze" on the Poles for additional permits for transportation. The Poles were offended and canceled the agreement. Then he became famous for spending the EU money allocated for the fight against coronavirus on allegedly building roads, while plundering 14 lard hryvnias. And after all this, they continue to sing the song, "Give me money." lol
                1. Brturin
                  Brturin 28 November 2020 11: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: LIONnvrsk
                  And after all this, they continue to sing the song "Give me money"

                  So he is not alone. The comments on Motor Sich did not have time to cool, as Oleg Bakhmatyuk, - RCEP and, first of all, China can become a source of inexpensive loans for Kiev ... it is possible to get up to 20-30 billion dollars at 2-5% per annum under guarantees of supplies of agricultural products - corn, sunflower oil, wheat, etc.
              2. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 28 November 2020 10: 52
                +3
                Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                That's why they are pan-headed. Only a creature with low intelligence will pull the pan over itself and start jumping.

                Like this?
                1. cat Rusich
                  cat Rusich 28 November 2020 15: 24
                  +5
                  Just remember ...
                  Maidan
                  maidown
                  And more classic Maidan
                  I want to go to the EU
            2. Hagen
              Hagen 28 November 2020 11: 07
              +3
              Quote: Lipchanin
              That's why it's obvious to everyone that the cut of the boneheads themselves

              The opinion of the "Indians" of the "sheriffs" in Ukraine is not interested. Maybe it gurgles in the pan, but it doesn't affect anything.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 28 November 2020 11: 10
                +3
                Quote: Hagen
                Maybe it gurgles in the pan, but it doesn't affect anything.

                Gurgles. It's just not clear what
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 28 November 2020 11: 17
                  +3
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Gurgles. It's just not clear what

                  In fact of the matter. For this "gurgling" to be understandable to us, it is necessary that the "gurgling" be formed and consolidated by some kind of positive, and most importantly honest political entity. And there even HLE is run by people with murky life experiences and goals. And this force must also have some kind of combat structure, so that those with pots would believe in its ability to defend the interests of citizens ... In a word, I think that the revolutionary situation in Lenin's interpretation has not matured there, and its prospects are vague.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 28 November 2020 11: 23
                    +2
                    Quote: Hagen
                    In short, I think that the revolutionary situation in Lenin's interpretation has not matured there, and its prospects are vague.

                    You are probably the "Kremlin dreamer" smile
                    This borel itself will never dissolve
                    1. Hagen
                      Hagen 28 November 2020 15: 06
                      0
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      You are probably the "Kremlin dreamer"

                      Your conclusions are strange to me. Where did you see my "dreams"? My personal assumptions about Ukraine are very far from positive. In this state, I see huge risks for our security. This "Bandera army", having received guarantees of pensions in Florida, can stir up such a provocation under secret management because of a puddle .... The United States has long been specialized in "false flag wars." How is this connected with the Kremlin? request Well, okay, I'm not offended.
                      1. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 28 November 2020 15: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: Hagen
                        Well, okay, I'm not offended

                        Do not need. , This Bandera swamp fascist by itself will not dissolve
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 28 November 2020 11: 55
            +3
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            And in principle, they do not replace concepts.

            They just do not correctly interpret the concept of "economics" and believe that it implies proud begging money around the world and their courageous plundering.
        2. lucul
          lucul 28 November 2020 09: 19
          +8
          Already more than 40% of the budget for the year is "help", and everyone is recruiting and recruiting !!! The feeling that they are living the last day. They are just already taking a new "help" to pay off the interest on the old

          How did Yatsenyuk say there? "Ukraine is not my historical homeland, and after my premiership, I am not going to stay here."
          So - the main thing is to collect loans and leave, and the Ukrainians will give it, not they)))
        3. Baloo
          Baloo 28 November 2020 09: 35
          +9
          Quote: nnm
          Already more than 40% of the budget for the year is "help", and everyone is recruiting and recruiting !!! The feeling that they are living the last day. It's just that they are already taking a new "help" to pay for the interest on the old one, but the ambition is ...

          Banderlog understands that the grandiose nix is ​​getting closer and closer, they don't care what they give themselves up for. The IMF also understands that it is a toxic partner that never settles.
          I remembered an old Odessa anecdote: Sofa, let's remain friends. Izya, this is impossible, I have already undressed.
        4. Ovsigovets
          Ovsigovets 28 November 2020 09: 57
          +7
          I laugh straight out of the way)))))) the one who minus the "homespun truth" about financial assistance, answer me))))) I want to know geniuses by sight
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 28 November 2020 11: 18
            +3
            Quote: Ovsigovets
            I want to know geniuses by sight

            This is hopeless. There is such a flock on the site, they will bite and scatter
        5. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 November 2020 10: 48
          +5
          Quote: nnm
          It's just that they are already taking a new "help" so that they can pay off the interest on the old one, but then the ambition.

          My neighbor built a luxurious house on a loan, "Mers" for himself, "Alfaromeo" wife, I was already jealous. Only now he already lives on his grandfather's farm, and his grandchildren will pay on loans.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 28 November 2020 11: 09
            +3
            Quote: tihonmarine
            and grandchildren will pay on loans.

            But the grandchildren will not enter the "burdened" inheritance, and they will not pay anything to anyone ...
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 47
              +1
              Quote: Hagen
              But the grandchildren will not enter the "burdened" inheritance, and they will not pay anything to anyone ...

              Excuse me, I live in another capitalist state, we get paid. My brother pays a loan for his deceased son.
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 28 November 2020 14: 56
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                My brother pays a loan for his deceased son.

                Well, that means inherited property is more expensive than a loan. Although you, in the Baltic States, the order may be slightly different, but I do not think that it is significant. In any case, the reasons why your brother pays a loan for his son may be different, and not only in the legal plane. There can be many nuances in these matters.
              2. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 28 November 2020 22: 10
                0
                If I had refused the property inherited from my son, I would not have paid. Another option was a co-borrower. But in this case, it is natural to pay the loan.
      3. YOUR
        YOUR 28 November 2020 08: 48
        +4
        No, they won't. Why give. They have already completely bought everything they could, than they will provide a loan.
        1. nnm
          nnm 28 November 2020 08: 59
          +6
          They will. You have to get kickbacks yourself, give your industry work, and everything that you still have to buy in Ukraine for a cheap price.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 28 November 2020 09: 02
            +3
            Although they can give. If Trump stayed, then with a probability of almost 100% flew, but then Biden appeared, who is well tied to Ukraine. So it can grow together.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 November 2020 10: 57
          +3
          Quote: YOUR
          No, they won't. Why give. They have already completely bought everything they could, than they will provide a loan.

          It is true that when the moment comes that loans will never be repaid, then "financial assistance" (and these are no longer loans) are allocated only for servicing loans. The country no longer exists as a legal entity.
          We certainly know that the political elite of the Independence Square and the members of the UNA / UNSO are not masters to read, but if they read "Confessions of an Economic Murderer". Author John M. Perkins may have realized that they were bred as "suckers". Yes, although they still would not understand, he is a sucker in Ahrik.
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 10: 59
            -1
            "Confessions of an economic killer". Written by Perkins John M.

            A classic for these days. good
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 31
              +4
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              A classic for these days.

              Classic. Only we all do not like to read classics, more fiction, but then we wonder, "Why do we live so badly?"
      4. Alex777
        Alex777 28 November 2020 12: 25
        +1
        They won't give them anything. wink
      5. frruc
        frruc 28 November 2020 12: 36
        +1
        And the old bad debts to Ukraine will be written off as the poor countries of the African continent. They take loans so that they can write off their debts later.
      6. orionvitt
        orionvitt 28 November 2020 14: 04
        +2
        Quote: Russia
        They will hold back the maleho, so that they would be more pleasant

        Where else is more popokladisti? In its desires to please the United States and Europe, Ukraine is probably unsurpassed. Apparently, there is nothing to take from Ukraine, all the little bit valuable assets have already smoothly flowed into the property of Western owners. However, here I would rather agree that they will still give a little money, that there is a billion for the West. They will pummer a little, but they will give. As they say, "they will fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian." Svidomo Ukrainians, for the role of cannon fodder in Ukraine is still in abundance. And to fight with someone else's hands, and so cheap, is a favorite feature of the West.
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    2. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 28 November 2020 07: 54
      +16
      I hint to them that they aggravate the situation in Donbass and provoke us in Crimea. They are not given help for Zelensky's beautiful eyes! what
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 28 November 2020 08: 10
        +12
        Quote: bessmertniy
        They are not given help for Zelensky's beautiful eyes!
        No war, no money.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 38
        +1
        Quote: bessmertniy
        They are not given help for Zelensky's beautiful eyes!

        Help is never allocated to anyone, alms are given to the porch, and Zalensky is paid for the work done. Here is my dog ​​sitting in the country for a week, and when I arrive, I scratch his ear for his service, and give him a couple of kilograms of bones. Everyone should get paid for their dog work.
        1. not main
          not main 28 November 2020 22: 02
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: bessmertniy
          They are not given help for Zelensky's beautiful eyes!

          Help is never allocated to anyone, alms are given to the porch, and Zalensky is paid for the work done. Here is my dog ​​sitting in the country for a week, and when I arrive, I scratch his ear for his service, and give him a couple of kilograms of bones. Everyone should get paid for their dog work.

          I put a plus, then I thought ... You really don't feed your dog all week? Yes, food would not go down my throat if I did not feed my hound!
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 28 November 2020 08: 36
      +6
      They will force the indemnity to pay interest on the previous loan and write it down as assistance. It has always been there. Or the second option: they will lend money to purchase some military junk from the United States.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 08: 39
        +3
        Or the second option: they will lend money to purchase some military junk from the United States.

        There is a third option ... to milk minerals from Ukraine ... the Biden family loves it very much.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 28 November 2020 09: 00
          +5
          There is a third option .... this is no longer an option but a reality .... the land sale market in Banderland is open, but so far only through local Gauleiters. and in September next year they plan to open the land sale market directly to foreigners
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2020 11: 43
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        Or the second option: they will lend money to purchase some military junk from the United States.

        This is generally a well-known and well-tried method since WWI and WWII - this is the same old Lend-Lease, when military junk was rented out and then never returned.
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 28 November 2020 08: 52
      -17%
      Quote: Victor_B
      For 404 is now an abscess on the body of Russia.
      Well, or a stinking corpse under the threshold.

      I will greatly surprise you, but Messrs. Zaputins think differently:
      Look how many cars are on the roads and in the yards! Look how many new buildings! Look how many shopping malls there are with crowds of people!

      True, it was written about Russia, but exactly the same thing is in impoverished Ukraine. Our people are not much richer in reality. Given that our country is really much richer. Here is such a strange contradiction.
      1. Fungus
        Fungus 28 November 2020 08: 56
        +12
        We live three times richer than Ukrainians. Belarusians doubled. Therefore, Ukrainians go en masse to work in Russia and Belarus, and not us to them.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 28 November 2020 09: 06
          -16%
          Quote: Fungus
          We live three times richer than Ukrainians. Belarusians doubled.

          And now I’ll give you the killer arguments of the Zaputins that “allow” everything when they compare European and Russian salaries:
          - Have you seen prices in Belarus and Ukraine ?? For food? Housing and communal services? Electricity? Yes, everything is cheaper (with some exceptions)!
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 28 November 2020 09: 15
            +14
            Quote: Stas157
            Have you seen prices in Belarus and Ukraine? For food? Utilities? Electricity? Yes, everything is cheaper (with some exceptions)!

            Well, don't be so fired up, "officer's daughter"))). A kW in Ukraine costs 1,68 grams, which is about 4 rubles. A cube of gas costs 8,9 grams, that's about 22 rubles, a liter of A-95 costs 24 grams, that's about 60 rubles. https://index.minfin.com.ua/markets/fuel/
            In terms of food, meat and potatoes are more expensive in Ukraine than in Russia.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 28 November 2020 09: 27
              -14%
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Well, don't be so fired up, "officer's daughter"

              Zaputinets took the insult?))

              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              A kW in Ukraine costs 1,68 grams, which is about 4 rubles. A cube of gas costs 8,9 grams, which is about 22 rubles, a liter of A-95 costs 24 grams

              Well I wrote:
              Quote: Stas157
              (with some exceptions)!

              In general, life is cheaper! Or will you argue again?
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 28 November 2020 09: 49
                +8
                Quote: Stas157

                In general, life is cheaper! Or will you argue again?

                Well, how can you explain something to pots? Gas is more expensive, petrol is more expensive, meat and potatoes are more expensive, electricity is comparable. But the Sumerian bot will still claim that in Ukraine "prices are lower, with rare exceptions." laughing ... Keep on galloping, galloping the right way, non-brothers wink
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 28 November 2020 10: 02
                  -12%
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  sumerian bot

                  I am from central Russia and I really don't know the exact prices in Ukraine. But the one who claims that living in Russia is cheaper than in Ukraine is really bot.

                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  Gas is more expensive, petrol is more expensive, meat and potatoes are more expensive, electricity is comparable.

                  Why are you looking for particulars? IN the whole where is it cheaper to live?
                  To facilitate your answer, I will give you the cost of consumer baskets in Ukraine and Russia:
                  In the North-West region of Russia, it is approximately 11.500 rubles.
                  And in Ukraine in the region of 5 thousand rubles.
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 28 November 2020 10: 12
                    +4
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Have you seen prices in Belarus and Ukraine ?? For food? Utilities? Electricity? Yes, everything is cheaper (with some exceptions)!

                    Have you been banned from Google? Can't find Ukrainian sites with tariffs? The cost of housing and communal services is determined by the cost of gas and electricity. And gas in Ukraine costs 22 rubles per cubic meter, which is about 5 times more expensive than the average in Russia. Gasoline is also more expensive, and this affects the price of everything, since the high price of fuel increases the price of agricultural products, since the fields are plowed and sown, the tractor is harvested, and trucks then deliver it to consumers. In any store, the price is also determined by transport costs, since the goods are brought in by car. The same banal taxi is also becoming more expensive due to the high prices for gasoline.
                  2. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 28 November 2020 16: 03
                    +2
                    this is approximately 11.500 rubles.
                    And in Ukraine in the region of 5 thousand rubles.
                    Yes, everything is cheaper in Ukraine,but not twice! Maximum by a third.
                    1. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 28 November 2020 18: 24
                      -2
                      Yes, everything is cheaper in Ukraine, but not twice! Maximum by a third ..... well, tell me about the social package for the citizens of ukraine ..... it will be interesting ....... I will correct you a little in case you get fucked up
        2. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 28 November 2020 09: 42
          +2
          I don't know where exactly they are going there, but in our region: neither Belarusians, nor Kazakhs, nor Lithuanians, nor Ukrainians (except those from the DPR), nor the Chinese, etc. - I have never met .. only Armenians, Uzbeks, Tajiks .. Perhaps they are going to Moscow time, and our region probably does not live much better simply ..
          1. Fungus
            Fungus 28 November 2020 11: 19
            -5
            An acquaintance works in the north. Every second employee from Ukraine speaks. And the western one. Whole teams go to work in Russia, 30-40 people. The cooks are all Ukrainian women.
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 28 November 2020 11: 35
              +1
              I heard about the north too .. salaries there are certainly better than in the EU a laborer, that's why they go there ..
              Although the comparative concept of where / how much better is wrong: better than those in Radomyshl, Vinnitsa or Kiev? And who is better, Arzgir, Volgograd or Muscovites with northerners?
              if a Muscovite is against a Radomyshl, then it is 20 times better in Moscow .. if an Arzgir is against a Kievite, not 20 times, of course, but several times better in Kiev .. and our people are unlikely to go to the north .. but like the Uzbeks from Tashkent ..
              in general, comparing countries with each other entirely in one phrase is incorrect ..
        3. Hermit
          Hermit 28 November 2020 22: 36
          +6
          Quote: Fungus
          Therefore, Ukrainians massively travel to work in Russia and Belarus.

          How else.
          A huge budgetary hole has formed in the Ukrainian budget. Such a pessimistic statement was made by Yaroslav Zheleznyak, the first deputy chairman of the committee on finance, tax and customs policy of the Verkhovna Rada. According to him, the country was left without money, and the state budget for 2020 lacks at least 40 billion hryvnia ($ 1,4 billion).
          More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/11/27/katastrofa-lokdaun-i-otkaz-mvf-ostavit-ukraincev-bez-pensiy-i-zarplat
    5. Finches
      Finches 28 November 2020 09: 24
      +2
      I never cease to be amazed at Gogol's genius ...
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 28 November 2020 11: 53
        +3
        Well, we have Ukrainians working in the company, then what? A trick in the other - before they worked three times more, but gradually most of them dumped - some in Poland, some in the EU, and some back to Ukraine due to the fact that salaries did not grow, but only decreased with an increase in the volume of work, and an increase in rental payments and utilities. The rest, after the last fall of the ruble to 90 rubles for 1 euro, unanimously said, "It's time to get out of here, it's bad that because of the fucking coronavirus, the problem is now to go to work in Poland or somewhere in the EU, otherwise they would have left right away. But get out of here at the earliest opportunity. " If it is worse in Ukraine than in Russia, what is the reason for pride? Nothing more to be proud of? "Shift" is the same bottom as all work in Russia - to go hunchbacks for 12-16 hours for 600-800 euros in the cold, feed mosquitoes, eat in unsanitary conditions, on the street and live in stinking trailers for 6-12 people (social distance-aha) is a complete, fierce star. I am silent about covid riots among shift workers. My brother-in-law made two trips and then went to court for half a year so that even these pennies would be paid to him.
        1. Fungus
          Fungus 28 November 2020 14: 57
          -5
          Russia is on the 2nd place in terms of money transfer of workers after Poland. I know a Ukrainian who works as a turner in Tyumen. Salary 70 thousand rubles plus bonuses. In Poland, 90% of working Ukrainians are laborers ...
    6. iouris
      iouris 28 November 2020 13: 48
      -2
      And they ("citizens of Ukraine") will ride in neighboring kingdoms-states as workers or "television" experts. ”After refusal, the price of labor will become even lower.
    7. KOPA
      KOPA 28 November 2020 20: 26
      +1
      stinking corpse - more accurate))))
    8. Hermit
      Hermit 28 November 2020 22: 31
      +5
      Quote: Victor_B
      give them money

      Of course, they will be issued, under the condition that Ukraine will raise tariffs, close schools and medical reform, as well as the entry of foreigners into the land sale market.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 November 2020 07: 49
    +10
    Use "call a friend"! wassat Congratulations to your new prezik, did you have time to lick? wassat Now, call him, and cry that you are eating the last reproductive organ without salt crying ... Insanity will help you-will send salt, and a bunch of reproductive organs -have for your pleasure !!!!! wassat
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 28 November 2020 07: 57
      +14
      Now Biden and her son will help - they will pump out everything that can be squeezed out of Ukraine for help. No.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 November 2020 08: 15
        +9
        Quote: bessmertniy
        they will pump out everything that can be squeezed out of Ukraine for help.

        It's better. For the promise of help.
      2. Hermit
        Hermit 28 November 2020 22: 40
        +4
        I can't imagine what else they can rob the Biden family ...
        According to the IMF, Ukraine is considered the poorest country in Europe. Low incomes led to a massive departure of citizens to work abroad, so that today Ukraine ranks first among European countries in terms of the volume of remittances received from labor migrants.
        Read more: https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20200520/1027743471.html
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 28 November 2020 07: 50
    +18
    The faucet was blocked ... wait, the withdrawal without another dose will begin ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 November 2020 08: 16
      +9

      Fungus (Vitiek)
      Today, 08: 03
      NEW
      +1
      Kapets life of the country is completely dependent on the IMF loan. There will be salaries and pensions. They won't, they won't. Russia of the 90s ...
      Baide will lick his boots, maybe he will throw some bucks (and then he will cut them off ten times) laughing
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 28 November 2020 08: 23
        +6
        maybe he'll throw some bucks

        Yeah, throw it in, one interest on the debt and it will come ... laughing
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 28 November 2020 09: 29
      +6
      Quote: Mouse
      The faucet was blocked ... wait, the withdrawal without another dose will begin ...

      "Mom! Mom! Shaw are we going to do?"
      Winter colds are coming!
      Chiba doesn't have a warm handkerchief!
      Mine doesn't have a warm coat "
      Who likes our prices there? Already raised and added! And whether or not there will be salaries and pensions next month is unknown to science, but the deputies are already talking about this.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 28 November 2020 09: 35
        +7
        science is unknown

        Science is not yet in the know ... wassat

        wink love
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 28 November 2020 12: 25
      +2
      The corpse, on artificial support, the brain died in 2014, without a new dose of this support, the corpse will finally be covered, it is more humane, but the West needs this corpse as a vegetable.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 28 November 2020 07: 54
    +12
    But I will tell you the answer of our partners from the International Monetary Fund
    What unites Russia and Ukraine, they have Western partners, we have Western partners ... smile
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 07: 58
      +5
      - Why did I lose, I have four sixes on my hands, four of a kind? - Because we are playing the fool.
      smile
    2. Pilot
      Pilot 28 November 2020 08: 08
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      But I will tell you the answer of our partners from the International Monetary Fund
      What unites Russia and Ukraine, they have Western partners, we have Western partners ... smile

      Yes, sex .. The only question is with whom, so to speak, more regular, lumps ..?
    3. Hermit
      Hermit 28 November 2020 22: 43
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      What unites Russia and Ukraine

      Instead of growth, there is a fall. These prospects in the economies of our countries unites us ...
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 07: 57
    +3
    Ukraine views the IMF as a bank with money ... like a warrant officer, warehouse manager ... everything is mine.
  6. Fungus
    Fungus 28 November 2020 08: 03
    +4
    Kapets life of the country is completely dependent on the IMF loan. There will be salaries and pensions. They won't, they won't. Russia of the 90s ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 November 2020 08: 14
      +9

      Fungus (Vitiek)
      Today, 08: 03
      NEW
      +1
      Kapets life of the country is completely dependent on the IMF loan. There will be salaries and pensions. They won't, they won't. Russia of the 90s ...
      Victor, a good proverb about this is always relevant - For щoh fought, and ran into it! wink
    2. stalki
      stalki 28 November 2020 08: 35
      +6
      Russia of the 90s ...
      "I'm afraid" to upset the ancient Sumerians, worse.
    3. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 28 November 2020 10: 16
      +1
      Quote: Fungus
      Russia of the 90s ...

      Only without oil and gas. hi
  7. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 28 November 2020 08: 05
    +9
    I thank God for the Maidan. Otherwise, Ukraine would still be sitting on Russia's neck, demanding annually tens of billions of dollars in loans, which, of course, would be written off.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 November 2020 08: 12
      +12

      Khramov (Vladimir)
      Today, 07: 47
      NEW

      +2
      Pascuds are those who kill people. The US and Israel are constantly killing people. Inhumans both there and there.
      The Jews themselves call themselves God's Chosen. Mattresses themselves are also called exceptional. And in fact, both there and there are atheists and perjurers.
      Ghouls. No conscience, no morality.
      And the Crimea is unknown for how many decades would be pulled apart.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 28 November 2020 08: 15
      +7
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      I thank God for the Maidan

      Duc his vows were dampened and arranged! repeat
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 November 2020 08: 11
    +10
    The outstretched hand was kicked with a boot! laughing Let them get used to it, it was not the USSR that gave and did everything for them.
  9. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 28 November 2020 08: 14
    +7
    If you borrow money for a person and you see that he is not going to give it away, then naturally you will not borrow any more. Or from partners otherwise?
    1. Hermit
      Hermit 28 November 2020 22: 47
      +3
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      Or have partners somehow differently?

      Otherwise. yes
      They see that they cannot repay the loan they received earlier, and they do the following, they say: well, you like, accept these laws, and we will give you a loan that will go to repay the old one. It turns out that the old loan has been repaid, the laws for and for the West are favorable, but there is no money. And they again need to bow to the IMF ... A closed loop ...
  10. Graz
    Graz 28 November 2020 08: 15
    +2
    as they say, a quick end is better than torment without end
  11. stalki
    stalki 28 November 2020 08: 29
    +3
    but the IMF refused to provide funds, stating that it is necessary to work within the framework of the current program and fulfill its conditions.
    exactly, the Bendera people are working out badly, they are fighting against us only on a piece of paper, the Donbass has not been taken, the Crimean bridge is intact, the Russians are still walking in the Azov language. We need to push our strength, increase Russophobia, swirl the forelocks and ...
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 November 2020 08: 38
    +4
    That’s what the horror happened. Again, Banderlog in flight, well, nothing - all the worlds. lol
  13. Doccor18
    Doccor18 28 November 2020 08: 41
    +4
    Kiev should not perceive the European Union as a charitable organization or an ATM for withdrawing money.

    He said beautifully.
    This cow cannot be milked ...
  14. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 28 November 2020 08: 53
    +7
    yeah .. situevina in Banderland like a woman with menstruation and a sore throat ... NOT GIVE OR TAKE ...
  15. cniza
    cniza 28 November 2020 09: 00
    +4
    The first tranche of 2,1 billion Kiev has already received,


    I got it - it's so called, they went to pay off previous debts ...
  16. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 28 November 2020 09: 22
    +2
    Is this zrada chi peremog? laughing
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 November 2020 09: 41
    0
    I am for, the main thing is that they invested more money in pots, at the expense of burghers laughing
  18. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 28 November 2020 10: 02
    +6
    "take the load by yourself, so as not to fall when walking"
    "Debt good turn deserves another"
    "all that glitters is not gold"
    "took up the tug, don't say you're not hefty"
    "give the fool a glass dick - he will break the dick and cut his hands"
    and many more interesting and amusing proverbs, jokes and jokes that characterize this moment ...
    not even 3 months have passed since the "Ukrainians" were sharing their master's overkill what new fighter they would buy ........
    less than a month and a half as they were telling about the armada of the mosquito fleet which they will acquire here ...
    not even a week had passed since these children of Darwin were here building orderly rows of corvettes with Turkish hands ...
    and on you ..... the gold reserve of Pan Ataman has dried up ...... And I will continue to argue - you will buy exactly that and as much as you have money
  19. Rubi0
    Rubi0 28 November 2020 10: 19
    +5
    Here's how to talk with brothers, whip and whip again, first so that all the laws are passed and the right people are appointed to senior positions and then think about whether to give them money. And not vice versa, give money and wait for a good relationship. Whip and beat
  20. opuonmed
    opuonmed 28 November 2020 10: 29
    +1
    Well, the land has already been sold, what is there left in Ukraine? if current people are sold although they have already been sold
  21. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 28 November 2020 10: 34
    +3
    IMF refused to provide Ukraine with financial assistance

    How quickly it came ... wassat

    A cash cow's udder tore, a sack of gold leaked ... What an interesting, and, most importantly, unpredictable situation: the industry is completely destroyed, the land is bought up on the vine, the gold reserves (even the gold of the Scythians) are taken out, the army is not able to deliver any the troubles of neighboring Russia, the remnants of the fleet have long expired, amid a pandemic, the demand for Ukrainian girls with low social responsibility and guest workers has dropped sharply ...
    And who will be responsible for everything? Where are these:
    "I directed you, I will be responsible for everything!"
    wassat
  22. Glenni
    Glenni 28 November 2020 10: 37
    0
    Yes, you will not wait, you fool dumkoy radio, she is guilty and rich!
  23. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 November 2020 10: 37
    +2
    The IMF refused, before that, the EU also pretended not to hear the plaintive meow: "Give it to the poor, left behind the train ..." Do you really have to work yourself? Unlikely. This means that they will try again to play the card with Russian "aggression" by arranging another provocation.
  24. Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 28 November 2020 11: 02
    +2
    "... well, son? Did your Poles help you ...?"
  25. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 28 November 2020 12: 28
    +3
    I look Ukraine after the Maidan everything is flourishing and flourishing.
  26. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 28 November 2020 12: 49
    0
    The land has not yet been sold. What help could there be? When ALL the land is sold, then help and loans, for harem pants, embroidered shirts and pots ...
  27. Fitter65
    Fitter65 28 November 2020 13: 46
    0
    The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has refused to allocate a tranche to Ukraine under the emergency financial assistance program. This was stated by the Minister of Finance of Ukraine Sergey Marchenko.
    Well, this is a complete rut, Seryoga did not say anything like that. No, really we all day today with him in the garage "twisted" ... laughing drinks drinks
  28. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 November 2020 14: 56
    +1
    laughingWell they didn't sing the song: let's share the mice brothers laughing Why are pennies true Svidomo Cossacks lol
  29. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 28 November 2020 15: 26
    +1
    How did he refuse?!.
    What a twist!
    What then were they fighting for?
    They are completely crazy ... And what kind of shisha should we develop democracy?
    And what about restraining the aggressor? .. request
    Because greedy Europeans. Parasites. Thyme into their house.
  30. Navigator Basov
    Navigator Basov 28 November 2020 15: 29
    +2
    Winter Is Coming. We buy popcorn.
  31. Tavi
    Tavi 28 November 2020 16: 54
    +1
    Ukraine: And what?
    IMF: And FSO ....
  32. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 28 November 2020 18: 43
    -1
    The outlaws from the IMF decided to leave "orphans" without a New Year, I think it's time for the "ancient Sumerians" to toughen up the national land legislation in terms of the turnover of agricultural land ...
  33. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 28 November 2020 19: 52
    -1
    Quote: Benzorez
    How did he refuse?!.
    What a twist!
    What then were they fighting for?
    They are completely crazy ... And what kind of shisha should we develop democracy?
    And what about restraining the aggressor? .. request
    Because greedy Europeans. Parasites. Thyme into their house.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLk9_EH6Pfo
  34. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 29 November 2020 00: 50
    -2
    Ukraine mother, fuck you and not slaves, Ukrainians .. we will put goat horns for you all!
  35. dementor873
    dementor873 29 November 2020 03: 10
    0
    This is our cow and we milk it - Biden.
  36. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 29 November 2020 04: 42
    0
    They begin to understand who they "contacted" with, 100% freeloaders !!! "Crocodiles" will shed tears, just give money to "fight the aggressor."