Shoigu: Two-thirds of the funds allocated for 2021 will go to the purchase of weapons

Two-thirds of the military budget for next year will be spent on the purchase of new weapons and the repair of those already supplied to the troops. This was stated by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu during a meeting of the board of the military department.

According to the head of the Ministry of Defense, Russian troops in 2021 will receive more than 3,4 thousand units of new and 1,3 thousand repaired equipment. The implementation of the state defense order will ensure the balanced equipping of the Armed Forces with modern technology next year.

To achieve these indicators next year, two-thirds of the funds will go to the purchase of weapons. Deliveries of more than 3 400 units and repair of 1 300 units of the main types of military equipment are planned

- quotes the press service of the minister's words.

In addition, the Ministry of Defense is already preparing tender documentation and draft state contracts for the state defense order-2021. Also, new government contracts are being concluded, which will enter into force after the approval of the corresponding government decree.

Shoigu stressed that by the end of next year, the equipment of permanent readiness units with the latest weapons and equipment will be more than 71%, and the provision of the armed forces with military equipment will exceed 98%.

The Minister noted that this year, despite the coronavirus pandemic, enterprises and military authorities have managed to ensure the specified pace of implementation of the state defense order.

Comments

[Civil]

25% of the expenditure side of the Russian budget for 2021 is the cost of the power unit. I hope the Ministry of Defense will buy the best and highest quality.

[Orange bigg]

This is the case. Finally, serial purchases will begin.

[NDR-791]

The military-industrial complex is the engine of the economy. In order for one person to work in the military-industrial complex, 10 must work in "civilian life". This is an unapplicable law, no matter what the adherents of budget saving say. Therefore, I am satisfied with the news! All is not lost yet.

[Lech from Android.]

All is not lost yet.

Of course not all ... if we strive for it.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

The military-industrial complex is the engine of the economy.? Passed the Cruise Missile Plant that will give the economy.? Technology.? Yes there is nothing new. And the funds have been deposited, so what.?

[nnm]

You would first just open a budget, which provides for REDUCING defense spending, and then write.

[stalki]

You would first just open a budget, which provides for REDUCING defense spending, and then write.

He was not given such instructions

[Storm uesugi]

very easy - we cancel the slave call and the second one that catches the summoners - already saving

[Sfurei]

A simple example: the state allocated money for the purchase of the Kyrgyz Republic, the plant made them + paid suppliers + paid taxes + carried out modernization + people received a salary (then they went and spent on food, apartments, cars, cut their hair, etc. That is, the money went to turnover). And if there is no order for the CD, then the plant costs, no salary, etc. etc. Those. there is nothing..

[Sergey Nikiforov]

Nobody has canceled the classical formula Commodity - money - commodity. Well, the plant made a cruise missile, whether raw materials or technologies were spent. The workers received a salary. Everything is clear. Next what? If I made a tractor, I would have received added value, that is, profit and further developed. Purely budget money is used here, without a hint of profit. We have already gone through this, you have to break it. You know the word conversion.?

[Sfurei]

Everything is quite simple: the state spends 1 billion rubles on missiles, then the plant spends money:
1. on the cost price: raw materials + salary + services of third-party companies + management costs such as energy, water, fuel, paper, etc. for example - 750 million;
2. pays VAT and other current taxes for example - 196 million rubles. (but you don’t need to tell me what the state receives VAT along the supply chain - I am aware of it, I myself work with this)
3. For 40 million - buys new equipment and machine tools, or makes repairs to the main fund or conducts proactive R&D. Those. Expenses not related to a specific government contract. Thus, some of the suppliers or manufacturers further down the chain also receive orders, and the plant carries out re-equipment and prepares for new deliveries and developments.
4. for the remaining 14 million - pays bonuses (deservedly or not - the second question).

So from the allocated 1 billion to the state will receive:
1.Up to about 40% tax refund along the production chain of VAT, personal income tax, NP, excise (including fuel) and other taxes,
2.cruise missiles for deployment,
3.working and partially modernized factories and established cooperation chains,
4. a huge number of workers who received a normal salary and bought themselves apartments, food, cars, telephones, televisions, clothes and New Year's gifts.
5. The money spent by both the salary and the providers of legal entities, in turn, pay their suppliers and employees and give the opportunity to move and heal the economy.
Those. In fact, the state transferred part of its money from pocket to pocket + received missiles + thousands of people got jobs and salaries.

This is the meaning of the economy .. Money is not just in the accounts or in the budget, but works!

[Sergey Nikiforov]

Your reasoning is far-fetched Suppose the state has spent a billion At the exit, we have a rocket that lies dead weight and costs a lot of money Everything else is the chattering of the remains of the same billion Never with such planning, there will be no profit and all this at the expense of the state, wu damage to the rest of the social program Pension , manuals, etc. Correctly, the counterpart wrote that the Americans sniff their NATO ally's missiles, then yes again the classics Commodity-money is a commodity Isn't that why we are trying in every possible way to sell weapons abroad, sometimes to the detriment of ourselves This is how the missile factory difficult to convert to civilian rails

[Boris Chernikov]

One moment - without a strong army, the country's economic development is impossible, because it is customary to destroy competitors now ... Now everyone laughs that "Oh, Putin is to blame, we have imposed sanctions!" .. Although for me sanctions are better than bombs ..

[Sergey Nikiforov]

Again a controversial postulate The armies of the countries of the euro zone are not a very strong adversary. Even if we take it separately, Germany is not a strong army, but the economy, God forbid. And how?

[Boris Chernikov]

and what will the Europeans do if the Americans want to bend them?

[Incvizitor]

They have been bent for a long time, what they tell them, they do, you might think they want to give tens of billions to ukrohunte ...

[Boris Chernikov]

that's the answer .. they have already been lowered because there is no army

[Stas157]

Quote: Sfurei

A simple example: the state allocated money for the purchase of the Kyrgyz Republic

The money was spent and never returned ... They end up with such spending. It is profitable to invest where the money is returned from (with a profit).

For example, India ordered KR, spent money on their production, sold KR, and the money became 3 times morethan spent (arms trade is very profitable). In this case, plus everything is the same:

Quote: Sfurei

the plant made them + paid the suppliers + paid taxes + carried out the modernization + people received a salary (then they went and spent on food, apartments, cars, cut their hair, etc. That is, the money went into circulation)

Do you feel the difference? In the first case, there is no money, it is spent. And in the second, there was even more money!

[Sfurei]

There are two questions for you:
1. Have you ever formed and maintained the budget of a company or at least a separate division? Do you know what profit is, what is VAT and cost price ?? How and what is formed, where, when does the company pay and how much ?? Or are you using a simplified concept of the market bought for 5, sold for 5,5 and 0,5 in your pocket ??
2. In response to your "... The money was spent and did not come back ...." I can only say one thing: have you read my calculations above? They are approximate, but reflect the average market data in terms of profit, cost and taxation ... Ie. somewhere there will be a little more taxes or less cost, but the result (with a white scheme) will be something like this .. If you didn't understand anything, then I won't explain it to you better. ALAS

[Stas157]

Quote: Sfurei

Have you ever formed and managed the budget of a company or at least a separate division?

Yes. I had my own company. Your ambition is not appropriate.

[Sfurei]

So why was there a company? You all rest on profit and only .. Yes, this is the main goal of any business. But you will not argue that you did not need transactions with zero profit in your company? Those. transactions where you received money, delivered a product or service, paid your employees and yourself a salary, paid taxes .. And on another transaction, you worked with a profit ?? Was it not profitable for you ??

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: NDR-791

In order for one person to work in the military-industrial complex, in "civilian" must work 10.

The same can be said about housing construction, with the difference that in this case there is a real improvement in the life of the population. And, pardon the repetition, some of the "newest" types of weapons have not yet acquired their final form and the date of completion is not visible. Please, do not tell me, a professional military man, how the "foes" sleep and dream with thoughts of impunity to attack a nuclear power with a voiced doctrine in the field of the use of nuclear weapons.

Quote: Sfurei

A simple example: the state allocated money for the purchase of the Kyrgyz Republic

I saw one simple example too:
https://tass.ru/kosmos/6294677
And in the series of events that you described so vividly, these two sentences:

According to the head of the joint venture, the state corporation is carrying out procurement procedures incorrectly, prices are overstated. In the report of the Accounts Chamber it was reported that in 2017 the department revealed 151 facts of violations in the work of Roscosmos for a total of 785,5 billion rubles.

thrown into "indescribable despondency." And it is no longer so important:

Quote: Sfurei

And if there is no order for the CD, then the plant stands, no salary, etc. etc. Those. there is nothing..

One thing is important: billions of dollars of budgetary funds were "spent not for their intended purpose" ...
This is scary. It is scary that someone is managing to “warm their hands” on the country's security.

[Sfurei]

I did not say that embezzlement and bribery are good ... This is the misfortune of all countries of the world and all times and peoples. Therefore, first of all, I try to prevent such things myself in my life (including gray salaries and on the paw of the traffic police - this is also a form of bribery and deception of the state).
But I believe that if they put a good road or build a new kindergarten and steal 10%, it's better than there is neither a kindergarten nor a road ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Sfurei

But I believe that if they put a good road or build a new kindergarten and steal 10%, it's better than there is neither a kindergarten nor a road ...

Yeah ... Tell us more about the "thieves' common fund": how and for what purpose it is going ... And I think that they were right: V.I. Lenin, F.E. Dzerzhinsky, I. V. Stalin ... Lee Kuan Yew ...

[Sfurei]

They were all right and no one stole with them ??? It is one thing to say that we are fighting, but another thing is to really wage it and win. And at the same time, not in one office, house or city, but throughout the country ...
It is necessary to fight corruption and not stop the fight, but is it really possible to win 100% ?? With sober thinking, - I think not ...

[Rubi0]

A cruise missile plant will give a lot of money to the economy as a product with high added value, especially if it is pushed to some military-political bloc. States in NATO shove their imperfections and earn hundreds of billions

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Sergey Nikiforov

Passed the Cruise Missile Plant that will give the economy.? Technology.?

Under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, the military-industrial complex practically did not work - the money saved, as I understand it, went to improve the living standards of the people? Do you want to repeat this experience?

[Alf]

Quote: Bad_gr

the money saved, as I understand it, went to improve the living standards of the people?

Yes, the money was spent on raising the living standards of the people. The list of "people" completely coincides with the list of Friends of the One Who Cannot Be Named.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

The fact that the military-industrial complex works, money in the budget can increase under one condition - it is profitable to sell.In other cases, this is a huge waste of budget money that directly affects our pensions, salaries, education and medicine The USSR was powerful, but it could not withstand the arms race4

[RUSS]

Quote: Bad_gr

Under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, the military-industrial complex practically did not work - the money saved, as I understand it, went to improve the living standards of the people? There is a desire to repeat this experience

The military-industrial complex is rather yes, but with the cosmos there is sadness,
The head of the Russian Academy of Sciences announced the loss of space by Russia, “Our lag is, after all, a numerical indicator - space science is 60 times less than NASA scientific projects have funding. "megasign", - said Sergeev.

He suggested that Russia should "completely abandon space." In his opinion, this option is absolutely realistic, since the funding of scientific space has actually decreased to a minimum and does not allow competing with NASA.

Sergeev noted that at a recent meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, it was discussed that the federal space program will be cut and is already being cut mainly due to scientific space.

According to him, in 2016–2025 12–15 billion rubles were to be financed. ($ 159-198 million) per year for the tasks of scientific space, but in reality, by 2022, funding for work will fall to 2,9 billion rubles. ($ 38 million).

[CommanderDIVA]

Construction and the agricultural sector are the locomotives of the economy, the military-industrial complex is only a generator of new technologies, which are then used in the civil sector, for example, the KamAZ developed the platform-O electric chassis on which it is planned to install the Russian ICBMs Yars and Topol-M, introduced into production, and then, in theory, this concept should be implemented in the civil sector, for example, mining dump trucks, truck cranes, etc., but our Russian reality is making its own adjustments

[Alex777]

This is the case. Finally, serial purchases will begin.

On the one hand, this is good for the country.
On the other hand, spending 2/3 of the budget on the purchase of weapons is very similar to accelerated preparation for an imminent war.
I would like to be wrong.

[Alf]

Quote: OrangeBigg

This is the case. Finally, serial purchases will begin.

This is if prices do not rise for "items".

[Alex777]

Arms contracts have fixed prices.

[Borik]

They promise that there will be something new, so we will believe that it will be so. After all, a lot of all sorts of trash have gathered around us that, eager for our natural resources, and they must be brave with something so as not to covet.

[Incvizitor]

So the West is forcing independent countries to allocate such money for protection, so as not to be destroyed and occupied by the FSA and their sixes.

[credo]

Quote: Civil

25% of the expenditure side of the Russian budget for 2021 is the cost of the power unit. I hope the Ministry of Defense will buy the best and highest quality.

The power block is a broader concept than just MO.

[nnm]

Can you show where you got this data from? By the way, did you know that defense budget spending has been declining for three years in a row and is at a minimum?

[Alf]

Quote: nnm

By the way, did you know that defense budget spending has been declining for three years in a row and is at a minimum?

But on propaganda and policemen, on the contrary, will grow up.

[Stupor]

Quote: Civil

25% of the expenditure side of the Russian budget for 2021 is the cost of the power unit. I hope the Ministry of Defense will buy the best and highest quality.

Buy the RF Ministry of Defense, as it jars .. Most likely creates! We don't like buying weapons ..
People in Russia are creative if "Thunder breaks out" ..
Hyper then ours is already working and all the rest too .. Thanks to ALL who remained devoted to the Fatherland!

[Alf]

Quote: Stupor

Hyper then our works

That's when he gets off the tests and stands on the carriers in more or less numbers, then Gop and say.

[Orel]

Quote: Civil

25% of the expenditure side of the Russian budget for 2021 is the cost of the power unit.

Much more, there is still a classified part of the budget, in the past it was about 10-15 percent more additionally, it is difficult to determine where the money goes, most likely it is also defense spending. On the whole, the budget has already been militarized for many years, the country's leadership believes that now the main weapons and the power unit for the protection of law and order, and the rest is all secondary. Whether it is right or not, time will tell

[Incvizitor]

An acquaintance with ufns spoke on Sun, Sat and everything around it goes about 70 percent.

[svp67]

Considering that this money will go to our economy, it is good in modern conditions. It remains only to understand what the emphasis will now be on acquiring. I would very much like to see in the troops finally normal, workable and high-performance portable radio stations, modernized and new military air defense systems and UAVs, especially shock ...

[YOUR]

And finally the Su-57.

[svp67]

Quote: YOUR

And finally the Su-57.

Yeah, Il-112, T-14, T-15, Boomerang, Kurganets ... the list is big.

[bessmertniy]

The list is big and the budget is big. In principle, military orders are becoming the driver of the economy in the difficult coronavirus era.

[Sergej1972]

The priority is strategic nuclear forces. However, it has always been so.

[Incvizitor]

I would like all the same a series of t 50, a line of armata and a moment 35 more than ten pieces.

[CommanderDIVA]

Most likely, first of all, they will finance the development of the fleet and missile defense systems

[Sergej1972]

First of all, strategic nuclear forces, secondly air defense-missile defense, thirdly everything else, and there is also its own system of priorities.

[rruvim]

Dreams ... Dreams ... Where are the people? There are no specialists! Young people have been kept for 7 months at a distance, without access to laboratories and even books with Griffin.

[Incvizitor]

I know people where secrecy is. Callibram programmers, everyone is working quietly on the spot, no one from healthy homes is sitting and everyone is busy with work.

[maiman61]

Who does not want to feed his army, he will feed someone else's army! A good example is Karabakh !!!

[Mishanya74_2]

So the Azeri ally turned out to be strong and strong-willed ..
And what about the Armenians?

[maiman61]

Don’t believe these Armenian tales! Azerbaijanis liberated their land! And Armenia DID NOT RECOGNIZE Karabakh as Armenian, which means Karabakh is not Armenian! The Azerbaijanis have been preparing, arming and training the army for 30 years! Well-armed, trained, motivated Azerbaijani army swept away the Armenian army! The Turks did not fight for them! The Germans lost the war to the USSR, so they, then, the general frost is to blame, then what other crap, but not a Russian soldier broke off their horns!

[Incvizitor]

They called the owners in Fashington, they were sent there.

[rruvim]

The army will be "fed", but it is questionable to equip and teach new technology ... Kudrin and Gref (and all of their n .... brethren) believe that there will be no "third"!

[iouris]

It’s time to beat someone, otherwise it’s not a horse.

[Alf]

Quote: iouris

It’s time to beat someone, otherwise it’s not a horse.

All to the Kremlin.

[rruvim]

I know that defense spending in 2021 has been adjusted. In Russian: they have simply decreased, and quite significantly.