Israel prepares for war with Iran, which does not want to fight

We live in interesting times. The time when, in order to attack another state, it is enough to conduct very small exercises and launch a big "duck" into the information space. There is no need to bring in your troops, there is no need to risk the lives of soldiers and officers. The opposing side will be wary anyway, spending a lot of effort and money to eliminate the "danger".

And you can do it differently. Prepare your own blow, but launch a "duck" that a much stronger opponent will beat you. The main thing is to choose the time for such an operation. The time when the "big brother" is already cared for everything, when he is busy with his own affairs within his state and a little lost control over the actions of his own generals outside the country.

Americans again decided to punish Iran for its nuclear program

So, yesterday the media reported with reference to Fox News, which, as usual, refers to unnamed sources in the intelligence community, about the possibility of the US army striking Iran's nuclear facilities. On what basis the Americans will strike, nobody cares. The main thing is to stir up the information space. The main thing is to talk about it.

And right there, with reference to a truly informed American information-analytical portal Axios, information appeared in the press about the preparation of the Israeli army for a possible "big war" in the region. The Israelis talked about an imminent Iranian attack on their country in response to the US strike.

Meanwhile, again referring to the Axios portal, the American intelligence community says that the United States has no need to deliver such a strike. As there is no data on the inevitability of such a strike. So who to believe? Israelis who are already preparing for war, or Americans who do not know about this war, although they do not exclude the possibility of certain difficulties in connection with the character of Donald Trump and his loss in the elections.

There is an excellent way to verify the information received. It is enough to go back some time and analyze the actions of the parties during this period. Words are always perfectly verified by deeds.

Let's start, naturally, with the possible aggressor - the United States. Donald Trump did discuss with his senior advisers some time ago the possibility of a strike on the Natanz uranium enrichment plant. This is a fact confirmed from several sources.

Earlier, Trump was informed by US intelligence about how much weapon-grade uranium Iran has today. Trump was also informed about the content of the report of the International Atomic Energy Agency - about the growing reserves of enriched uranium in Iran. However, nothing is known about the decision reached by the advisers and the US President.

There are also quite controversial facts. According to the Central Command of the US Armed Forces (USCENTCOM or CENTCOM), a week ago, the Americans deployed B-52H strategic bombers to the Middle East. There is a message about this on the official CENTCOM website:

The B-52H Stratofortress crews from Squadron 21, stationed at Maino Air Force Base in North Dakota, quickly flew to the Middle East on November XNUMX to contain aggression and confirm the support of US partners and allies.

There is one more news from the same source, which is worth paying attention to. This is the transfer of a squadron of F-16 fighter-bombers from the Spangdalem airbase in Germany to the Al Dhafra airbase in the United Arab Emirates. Moreover, it is alarming that the squadron has been transferred to the UAE along with ground support personnel.

The 480th Fighter Squadron willaviation preparation for hostilities, practice the rapid deployment of American troops anywhere in the world at any time. " The 480th Squadron is part of the 52nd Fighter Aviation Regiment at the Spangdahlem Air Base in Germany. From there, the US Air Force fighter-bombers, along with ground support personnel, were transferred to the Al-Dhafra airbase in the Arab monarchy in the Persian Gulf.

Everything seems to be clear. The Americans are really going to strike at the Natanz plant. It remains to understand why. And this is where some strangeness comes to light.

The opposite side, Iran, sheds some light on it. Advisor to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei, former Defense Minister Hossein Dehgan, in an interview with the Associated Press on November 19, let out one unknown detail:

We do not welcome the crisis. We do not welcome war. We are not chasing war, but we also do not agree to negotiations for the sake of negotiations.

Pay attention to the last words of the adviser Ayatollah Khamenei - "do not agree to negotiations for the sake of negotiations." Does this mean that such negotiations are being conducted at some lower level with the aim of "bringing to light" the leaders of states or at least ministers with a draft of some kind of agreement on the Iranian nuclear program?

Trump is well aware that any war, even a very insignificant and quick one, is a political death for him. And given the fairly serious strengthening of Iran's air defense in recent years, the Americans will not be able to bomb without losses. Yes, and the very nuclear program of Iran, no matter what is said about it in the world, the Americans are deep in the drum. there is weapon from Pakistan and India, so what? Does this somehow affect international relations?

Or maybe the wind blows from the other side

But there is a state for which the appearance of another nuclear power, especially in the Middle East, is like death. This is a state that "has no nuclear weapons, but try to take them away from us." Yes, that very poor Israel, which today is strenuously preparing to repel the attacks of aggressive Persians on its territory.

We somehow forgot about some aspects of Israel's foreign policy. In particular, for some reason, the famous "doctrine of Menachem Begin," the former prime minister of Israel, is hardly mentioned anywhere. And I will remind you for those who do not know or deliberately "forgot". This is how Professor Arie Naor, Begin's closest aide and secretary to his first government, formulates the doctrine:

Menachem Begin established the doctrine that the State of Israel should not allow an enemy country to develop a potential for its destruction.

How is the Iranian nuclear program related to the “potential to destroy Israel”? Let me remind you again an episode from the era of Begin's reign. Who in June 1981 gave the order to the Israeli Air Force to bomb the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq? Personally, Prime Minister Menachem Begin!

And one more fact that General Herbert McMaster, Trump's adviser, said in a recent interview with Fox News. For what purpose did Israel launch airstrikes on certain targets in Syria in September 2007? The US intelligence community has a clear answer to this question. The strikes were struck at exactly the places that Israel's intelligence pointed out as the places where nuclear weapons are being developed.

The interview, as I wrote above, was given by Fox News on November 12th. And what is the difference between the Iraqi reactor and the Syrian or Iranian, from the point of view of the Israelis? According to Begin's doctrine, nothing. This means that it must be destroyed by any means.

So maybe it's not Trump who wants to strike Iran, but the Israelis are trying to set fire to the situation? Maybe the weekly conversations of Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz and acting Pentagon chief Christopher Miller is not about defense cooperation? And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flew to Saudi Arabia in company with Massada Yossi Cohen in order to simply see Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and American Pompeo.

And Pompeo himself just on the way visited several countries of the Persian Gulf and again stopped in Israel to see his friend Benjamin. Particularly serious are the statements of the head of the US Foreign Ministry that the purpose of his meetings with all these politicians is to limit Tehran's ability to support militias in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. But this is said with a very serious face. We have to believe it.

To be continued

The announcement of a possible attack did not cause much panic in Tehran. Iran reacted calmly to all this fuss, perfectly aware of its own strength and the greatly diminished capabilities of the Americans and Israelis. The same adviser to the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei, former Defense Minister Hossein Dehgan, in the above-mentioned interview with the Associated Press, albeit in a harsh manner, quite calmly stated the possibility of a major war in the region.

Iran is well aware that Israel will do everything so that no one in the Middle East has nuclear weapons. Simply because the presence of nuclear weapons for Israel is a certain guarantee of its own security. Iranian nuclear weapons will completely neutralize this guarantee. The existence of the State of Israel will be called into question. Blow to blow is unacceptable for Israel. Simply because the territories of states are incommensurable in area.

Hence, the situation in the Middle East is exacerbated. It is impossible to name the right and the wrong in this conflict. Everyone has their own truth. And these truths are different. It is also difficult to predict how events will develop. So it only remains to wait for the development of events ...

Comments

[Lech from Android.]

I am more and more convinced that Israel uses technologies of provocation to the fullest and masters this craft to perfection. One shot down our plane with 15 of our military experts is worth ... Israel got out of this shit by substituting the Syrians as dry as possible ... all the bumps went to the Syrians. Now we are seeing exactly the same situation.
Anyone but not Jews will pay for Israel's provocations.

[Aerodrome]

it seems that the "answer" will be, how and when ... let's see, but what remains for us?

[kieferandreas]

I hope for this there will be an answer, yes, such that everyone will see, and not such as for the downed Russian plane, they also needed to sink a couple of them F16 in a red puddle.

[Others]

The first reports of two powerful explosions have just arrived in Iran, near the city of Sanandej. According to a local journalist, the explosions occurred at a petrochemical plant or at a nearby base. Already reported five deaths in the explosion.

[atalef]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Israel came out of this shit by substituting the Syrians as dry as possible ... all the bumps went to the Syrians.

did the Israelis press the missile launch button too?

[Lech from Android.]

Of course not, but it was the Israelis who misinformed the calculation of the Syrians by substituting our people ... Here you will not be able to uncover.

[atalef]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Of course not, but they misinformed the calculation of the Syrians

these are vile ones, they did not inform the time and place in advance - uncle you

[Maki Avellevich]

the author did unmask the insidious Jews, finally brought it to the surface:

"Menachem Begin established the doctrine that the State of Israel must not allow an enemy country to develop a potential to destroy it."

here are the jackals? what they came up with ... you do not want to understand the enemies to allow to reach the potential for their destruction.
Where have you ever heard that normal people would not allow their enemies to destroy themselves?

[user1212]

Quote: atalef

did the Israelis press the missile launch button too?

When civilians are killed during the "counter-terrorist" operation of the Israeli army, you blame the terrorists (not without reason), but it was not terrorists who pressed the "launch buttons"

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander)
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Quote: Lech from Android.
Israel came out of this shit by substituting the Syrians as dry as possible ... all the bumps went to the Syrians.

crying
did the Israelis press the missile launch button too?

Are you driving the fool again? Well, well ... it suits you

[lucul]

did the Israelis press the missile launch button too?

Otherwise, you don't know the difference between a customer and a contractor ...

[atalef]

Quote: lucul

did the Israelis press the missile launch button too?

Otherwise, you don't know the difference between a customer and a contractor ...

that is, we ordered Russian sludge. but the Syrians did it.
Epic....

[Plantagenet]

Surely some sort of Mossad accomplice. "Jews, only Jews around ..."

[Alien From]

Nothing is infinite except the universe)

[Lech from Android.]

We are nothing to the universe ... Microbes minus the billionth degree. But we still want to live.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Alien From

Nothing is infinite except the universe)

Hike and then a bummer.

The Voyager 2 spacecraft has detected an increase in the density of space outside the solar system.
In November 2018, 41 years after launch, the Voyager-2 spacecraft finally crossed the border of the heliosphere, the region of space in which the solar system is located. And as the device moves away from the heliopause - the border of the heliosphere - the density of space increases, Science Alert reports.
Voyager 1, which entered interstellar space in 2012, found a similar density gradient elsewhere. New data from the second Voyager suggests that the increase in density may be a large-scale feature of space outside the solar system.

Scientists are shocked and cannot explain this phenomenon from the point of view of modern science.
Google, there is a lot of information on this fact.
Is the Voyager-2 spacecraft approaching the Aquarium wall?
:)

[voyaka uh]

There seems to be an explanation. "Solar wind" - it is not symmetrical around the Sun.
Not round. And gravity is not round.
And Voyager was caught in the tail of this solar wind.

[bk0010]

That is, you want to say that gravity is to blame, and the Zionists have nothing to do with it? !!!

[voyaka uh]

How innocent? And who invented the sun and unrolled the planets
for their global purposes?

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Anyone but not Jews will pay for Israel's provocations.

The fact that Israel is behind the escalation around Iran - don't go to a fortuneteller! ..
In a period of confusion in the White House, hitting Iran's nuclear program is a Jewish dream, like a dream ...
Apparently, strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities are inevitable ...
But there can be no question of any ground operation.
And this means - all this injection will again fly out into the whistle. Iran will suffer some losses, its nuclear program will slow down somewhat.
But that’s all.
Everyone will remain with his own.
They will still hate each other and, if possible, shit.
A strange war with strange objectives. Where everyone is a winner, and the losers are just people who have been hit by bomb and rocket attacks from drones.
Holy simplicity!...

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Anyone but not Jews will pay for Israel's provocations.

The fact that Israel is behind the escalation around Iran - don't go to a fortuneteller! ..
In a period of confusion in the White House, hitting Iran's nuclear program is a Jewish dream, like a dream ...
Apparently, strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities are inevitable ...
But there can be no question of any ground operation.
And this means - all this injection will again fly out into the whistle. Iran will suffer some losses, its nuclear program will slow down somewhat.
But that’s all.
Everyone will remain with his own.
They will still hate each other and, if possible, shit.
A strange war with strange objectives. Where everyone is a winner, and the losers are just people who have been hit by bomb and rocket attacks from drones.
Holy simplicity!...

[Babayka babaykin]

They got out of the water because their relatives from our government tried

[silver_roman]

He knows how, maybe he practices. I am not defending Israel in any way, but remember the desire of the Arab states to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and, moreover, repeated attempts to do it. Syria, Egypt, Jordan - the armies of these countries almost achieved their goal. The Jews understand that by loosening their grip, they will give time for the restoration of the army of these countries and their previous ambitions. And Israel is essentially alone among the enemies. Although at one time there were very warm friendly relations with Iran. Everything changes. It is a pity, of course, that it is practically impossible to conclude any agreement on BV, since lying in BV is a kind of tradition. We need the patronage of a superpower and guarantees of compliance with the treaty, and the same States now have enough of their own problems. Therefore, it is absolutely correctly written in the article: each has its own truth.

[Alien From]

Iran will not surrender without a fight! Is Israel and mattresses ready for exchange ??

[LiSiCyn]

Israel hopes that from Iran, there will be only a demonstrative blow. Without serious consequences.

[bessmertniy]

An adequate answer would be if there was a hunt for Israeli and American nuclear scientists. Anything else is unequal.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: bessmertniy

An adequate answer would be if there was a hunt for Israeli and American nuclear scientists.

Well, on the "Israeli" is problematic, I think. And Iran is unlikely to have such capabilities (agents).

[figwam]

The world elite has already drawn everything.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: figvam

The world elite has already drawn everything.

I, until the end did not understand, "prediction" ... Here is "this green" under $, what's this? Windmill? And the forest is on fire? Consequence of nuclear weapons or just fires?

[figwam]

Quote: LiSiCyn

I didn't fully understand

The second column has already stopped and everything is clear from it, the rest in dynamics means they can change.

[lucul]

Iran will not surrender without a fight! Is Israel and mattresses ready for exchange ??

America is in recession, and it may "turn around" for 30-40 years that way. And while America is still in power (but strength is running out), it is necessary at all costs to bomb Iran into the Stone Age. So that over the next 30 years (the time of America's recession), Iran would not be able to develop its military industry to an atomic bomb.
Therefore, the war with Iran, under Biden, is completely 100%.
Otherwise, upon leaving the American stage, Israel is doomed.
PS Most likely they can still catch on and Turkey - after which Israel will not have competitors (neighbors), in military terms, for the next 50 years.

[Ovsigovets]

Gentlemen, Jews, don't you think that at a certain moment, a lot will fly to you?!?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Gentlemen, Jews, don't you think that at a certain moment, a lot will fly to you?!?

even if geographically and in terms of population estimate, Iran can withstand a vigorous exchange. But the existence of Israel is a question.

[Ovsigovets]

so that's about that and the question ... geographically Israel is very small ..... maybe Iran does not have nuclear warheads, but if it rivets medium-range railcars and just quantitatively prokinets Israel's missile defense ...... so what's this to yourself. ... my friends live in Israel and I have someone to regret ... but I would not like ... but the critical mass is growing

[bobwings]

It will pierce and receive a powerful blow to infrastructure and communications. Do they need it? Under the guise of the people, the people will rise up and the ayatollahs who have got them long ago will throw off.

[Ovsigovets]

did you live or live in Iran to make such statements about the ayatollah ???? what is it all about? either Israel, the United States will destroy us (Iran) for a great life, or is it all the same who of them (here specifically Israel) will pay for it ??? Or do you think Iranians hate Ayatollahs and adore Jews? some nonsense they wrote

[bobwings]

I am closely following the situation in Iran, including Russian-speaking bloggers from there. In recent years, it has become more and more difficult for the regime to restrain the revolutionary situation in the country; the regime also gives weakness as a result of relaxation in religious restrictions. The dress code is no longer followed closely, openly cosmopolitan, western-looking cafes and restaurants open, people drink and have fun. And all the time, time after time, the country is shaken by serious unrest and unrest. I think that over time, the regime will collapse.

[Ovsigovets]

Iran is still a very closed country)))) And if you judge the country according to the statements of some bloggers on the internet (this is how the EU judges the Russian Federation according to the statements of Oleshka Onalny), then it’s funny for me ... and as someone wrote Pan Atalef "baby talk"))))

[bobwings]

You are deeply mistaken about the closed nature of Iran. This is not North Korea ... These bloggers live in Iran, so the information is reliable, firsthand.
Find though we are Christina Bohcech's blog on Instagram. Throwing away all the glamor, there remains a great view of life in the country.

[Ovsigovets]

oh oh oh ... ska ... they are trying to tell me about life in the country at the level of a blog instasamki with glamor ... that's it ... don't write to me anymore ...... my head ached ... where are you rivet idiots

[bobwings]

Deep delusion.

[bobwings]

I understand that for some, insulting the interlocutor is a great way to hide their inferiority and therefore I am not offended. I even regret it.
And if the mention of alcohol consumption in relation to Iran causes so many emotions, then you are not in the subject. Alcohol is illegal there, it can be bought only in certain places and only for non-Muslims. Even 10 years ago it was practically not drunk.
And it's not about alcohol .. The people of Iran, and especially its intellectual and economic elites, are moving further and further away from the pacified ideas of the Shiite revolution and are increasingly influenced by Western ideas and values. They are no longer ready to tie a green ribbon and send their children to machine guns like in the 80s. For the state, which is based on the Idea, it is like a cancer that metastases into the foundations of the system.
This is how it all began in the union since the 70s, this is how China and many others have changed.
The regime in Iran will not survive a serious war.

[Ovsigovets]

I wrote to you that the internal squabbles of Iran are internal, but for some reason I am sure that the Iranian who begins to claim that the Ayatollahs are enemies, and the Jews love their friends, will not live in Iran for a long time, either in terms of location or simply physically. Everything flows and everything changes. But to assert on the basis of your facts about the stability of the "regime" - well, that's something to yourself. When Lenin spoke of the intelligentsia as *******)))))) In percentage terms, how many advanced people are there in Iran? And the IRGC has not been canceled yet))))) And they have the total right to violence. And it seems to me that if something happens to the smartest and most greyhounds, they will make a zip and this will end all the games of cosmopolitanism. Life there is built on Islam (faith) and not on the ideas of humanism and universal equality

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: bobwings

I understand that for some, insulting the interlocutor is a great way to hide their inferiority and therefore I am not offended. ...

you looked handsome right up to the moment you started talking about inferiority))))) you are here, I look at you, too, remotely diagnose)))))
and after the story for the inferiority, you stood on a level ... it did not work out of you a "deity" hovering above us .... you also hide the inferiority behind high words))))

[Others]

Yeah, also tell us that the Iranians hate Israel and America. Here is a simple example of how much they hate the ruling radical religious elites. As a provocation, the Iranian Ministry of Education painted huge asphalt so as not to pass by, the flags of Israel and the United States at universities, in order to motivate hostility to the West and to strengthen hatred. However, as soon as two unknown men solemnly and unhurriedly decided to march on the Israeli and American flags, dozens of young people began to chant: "Shame! Shame!" And none of the young people stepped on the flags ...

[Ovsigovets]

hatred is an emotion caused by personal relationships ..... I now do not consider the United States to us either as allies or partners, but in many places as competitors and a little enemies ...... but why should I feel hatred here ??? but I think these students will be directly fed up with emotion and tenderness if they arrive at their university during classes))))) I just see students with posters "USA come on ischo .... Burn"))))

[lucul]

For the state, which is based on the Idea, it is like a cancer that metastases into the foundations of the system.

Well, they worship their God, and you are the Golden Calf. )))
And if your cause is right, then what are you afraid of? )))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: lucul

For the state, which is based on the Idea, it is like a cancer that metastases into the foundations of the system.

Well, they worship their God, and you are the Golden Calf. )))
And if your cause is right, then what are you afraid of? )))

Is Israel worshiping the Golden Calf?
A loan for an iPhone is the last and no one takes a down payment for a loan for a new car. For people, the main value is children. On average, 3rd per non-religious Jewish family. They boast about where the child served in the army and what faculty of the University he could enter and who he works for. Clothes, cars, gadgets, elite resorts and other indicators of "success" for the vast majority of the population do not care. ))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Ovsigovets

oh oh oh ... ska ... they are trying to tell me about life in the country at the level of a blog instasamki with glamor ... that's it ... don't write to me anymore ...... my head ached ... where are you rivet idiots

Christina Bo was invited to the Iranian embassy in Moscow to promote Iran, and after publications with a "cry of despair", the intention to immigrate from the country. She gives an adequate picture of what is happening (Russian woman, married a Persian), Iran is a country with its own problems, advantages and disadvantages, and “people like people” live there. I advise you to read, I was personally interested.

[Ovsigovets]

As a child, I came from Murmansk near Kirovograd (the village of Razdolye and the city of Svetlovodsk) and there I said that I ride a deer to school and I have my own tame polar bear ... and you know, they believed ... and there was not even one to say "fill in" .... this is for you as an example from life

[Krasnodar]

There she writes about completely everyday situations - renting a new apartment in Tehran, communicating with her father-in-law and mother-in-law, the current economic situation, currency exchange (she works on the Internet), prices, her problems of learning the language, etc. Well, he exposes pictures with views of Iran - beautiful, of course
kristina_bo
Recommend. Just understand "what the people breathe"

[Ovsigovets]

I believe you ... but to judge the situation in an Islamic country, with a foreign culture, religion, morals, the state structure on the blogs of a girl who writes "what an emigrant breathes"

[Krasnodar]

So her husband is Persian))

[Ovsigovets]

but she's not a Persian))))) you understand, when you say "I want a family" and your friend says the same thing in fact, you mean two BIG differences. She judges according to the opinion of the sYuprug and his entourage, and these are not all Persians ..... and if she marries a colonel of the IRGC and rotating in that environment, what would she write? she is not local and will never become local, her judgment is the result of what she sees BUT from the point of view of a Russian emigrant ... not a Persian

[Krasnodar]

If she were married to a colonel of the IRGC - it is unlikely that she had a blog on Instagram)) And the whole thrill is just that she is Russian, lived in Japan before Iran, traveled the world and has a fresh look at the country, seeing its advantages and disadvantages ... She writes about Iran with love, by the way

[Ovsigovets]

you know, now in our country there are a lot of foreign bloggers who have been living in the country for a long time and telling how they see Russia ... more often it smiles and gives an understanding that even 5 years of living in the Russian Federation and my Russian husband did not make a Spanish woman or a Frenchwoman Russian

[Krasnodar]

Doesn't. But their opinions to a Spaniard or a Frenchman will tell more about the country than a detailed description given by a Russian. ))

[Ovsigovets]

no ... if any question to explain there is a Russian who speaks well in Spanish or French, he will explain better. The blogger is not able, in principle, to explain when he was initially wrong and says I get on at least or lie at least

[Krasnodar]

If asked questions, yes. If something simply describes - no)).
If I write to Israelis about Russian cigarettes, I will tell them that they cost 4 times cheaper, but they have a different taste.
The Russian will simply write - we sell Marlboros for 175 rubles a pack. Do you understand what I mean?

[Ovsigovets]

here ... when describing cigarettes, discrepancies are possible ... but we are talking about the internal political cuisine ... in general, the devil can be explained normally

[Krasnodar]

Yes, it is precisely that she does not describe the domestic political cuisine in the country, she writes about the economic situation and the opinion of ordinary people - her husband's relatives, girlfriends, etc.

[Ovsigovets]

so I am offered to look at it and read it and on the basis of this make that "I swayed your regime")))))

[Krasnodar]

That's right - you will understand everything by describing the mood of people))

[Ovsigovets]

again referring to my friends from Israel ... here's a story from their relationship .... she is Tajik, he is "khokhlomoskal" ..... she is civilized, she studied under the USSR, two higher and not bought for a sheep, from her their business ...... they have a picnic on the beach .... he wandered along the coastline, wet his feet up to the knee, returned to the table. She takes a towel and wipes his feet ..... he is a HUSBAND ..... do you feel the difference in mentality ... she was raised like that since childhood

[Krasnodar]

He was lucky)) In something. In some ways, there is, because oriental women also roll such scandals that mom do not cry

[Ovsigovets]

he never complained and all the time looks like a "fat happy cat who gobbled up sour cream"))))

[Krasnodar]

Well done, happy for him))

[lucul]

I advise you to read, I personally was interested.

But what about - "don't make yourself an idol"? )))

[Krasnodar]

It was interesting to read and create an idol for the set, well, very different things

[Ovsigovets]

he meant "liked the chick ???"))))))

[Krasnodar]

Haram! Married! (And how )

[Ovsigovets]

it would seem)))) and there it is ... I have a friend ... a speech therapist ... when she showed me what exercises should be done with her daughter with her mouth and tongue for clarity of speech - I'm not talking about clarity I thought at all))) I understand you

[Krasnodar]

If your wife's girlfriend, then don't

[Ovsigovets]

I do not have a wife)))

[Krasnodar]

Then you should definitely))

[72jora72]

In recent years, the regime has found it increasingly difficult to contain the revolutionary situation in the country,

I understand that you wrote about the cooperative "Lake"?

[Ovsigovets]

and I wrote not "pierce", but prokinet ..... the point is that Israel will receive a massive missile strike .... very massive

[D16]

It will pierce and receive a powerful blow to infrastructure and communications.

Well, of course. Israel will receive only empty schools and kindergartens .

[Ovsigovets]

and if bridges, hospitals, substations ???

[D16]

and if bridges, hospitals, substations ???

No. Only by empty kindergartens. As last time.

[Ovsigovets]

who wants to check with their skin ????

[D16]

but who wants to check with their skin ????

Judging by the murder of the Iranian physicist, his family just can't wait. But Iran will not come to the war again, it will buy nishtyakov after removing the imbargo, make an atomic bomb, and then someone will reconsider their behavior, raking in a couple of times.

[Ovsigovets]

well, that is, the skin will still be spoiled)))

[D16]

well, that is, the skin will still be spoiled)))

But not now.

[D16]

And not on the scale that many assume. Strange as it may seem, Iranian religious leaders demonstrate much more adequacy than the secular governments of their opponents.

[atalef]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Ovsigovets

Gentlemen, Jews, don't you think that at a certain moment, a lot will fly to you?!?

even if geographically and in terms of population estimate, Iran can withstand a vigorous exchange. But the existence of Israel is a question.

baby talk.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: atalef

baby talk.

You will have childish babble when Turkey really has nuclear weapons, which is already being discussed on the sidelines of the Israeli intelligence service. You should be afraid of Turkey, not Iran. But you have a lot of gut to reach for Turkey, so you are enraged with impotent anger in revenge on whom you can reach.

[bobwings]

Israel actually has no problem with Turkey, but personally with the anti-Semite Erdogan. It is not eternal.

[Pavlos Melas]

Quote: bobwings

Israel actually has no problem with Turkey, but personally with the anti-Semite Erdogan. It is not eternal.

You are wrong Erdogan is not an anti-Semite, he is a rebuilder of the Ottoman Empire. Kudush was in Ottoman controlled territory. So, it is unnecessary for the Turks in the region of a strong Israel. They should have zero neighbors in general, not zero problems with neighbors. If only Erdogan had been an anti-Semite, then he would not have played this card in Turkey.

[Sergey M. Karasev]

Quote: bobwings

Israel actually has no problem with Turkey, but personally with the anti-Semite Erdogan. It is not eternal.

Hehe! And then we have no problems with the United States, but only with the Russophobes ruling there. And there are no problems with America itself, peace, friendship, balalaika ...

[Ovsigovets]

you somehow look rosy at the world))))) and the option that after Erdogan will come three times more ardent anti-Semite you are not considered ???? It's like about love "Ukrainians and Putin"))))) For some reason they are sure that after Putin will come like "Kasparov" and love them and return the Crimea to them ...... and they do not want Shoigu and Pistyulin to follow ?! ?!

[atalef]

Quote: Mar. Tira

You will have baby talk when Turkey really has nuclear weapons

You will also like it. only what does Turkey have to do with it?

Quote: Mar. Tira

You should be afraid of Turkey and not Iran.

as recently as yesterday, I received a GE transformer produced in Turkey, of course, together with Turkish representatives, did not notice any antagonism.

Quote: Mar. Tira

But you don't have much gut to reach Turkey,

Nothing, they reached out

AKU / Trend / - In the first quarter of 2019, trade between Turkey and Israel increased by $ 133,770 million and amounted to $ 1 million. Turkish Trade Ministry told Trend on Wednesday.

"In the first quarter of 2019, Turkey's exports to Israel amounted to $ 1 million, and imports from Israel - $ 089 million," the ministry said.

It was noted that in March 2019, trade between Turkey and Israel increased by $ 76,975 million and amounted to $ 618,016 million.

what are we talking about?

[Ovsigovets]

so ... wait ... the area of ​​destruction when using nuclear warheads directly depends on the power of the charge and, accordingly, the area itself ... what did you see babbling ???

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Gentlemen, Jews, don't you think that at a certain moment, a lot will fly to you?!?

will arrive of course and ... now what?
Afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest.

[Ovsigovets]

here you see a nuance ... if Israel sprinkles at least a little, then they will pile on it in a bunch and they will bring down the noise ... and taking into account the geographical location, it is possible another genocide

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

here you see a nuance ... if Israel sprinkles even a little, then they will pile on it in a bunch and they will blame the noglushnyak ..

5 raziks tried to blame the backwoods, but what was the result?

[Ovsigovets]

for very many centuries you and your country have not been ... 6 times it can work out ... and then you only run the EAO))))

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

for very many centuries you and your country have not

we were when you were not yet.

Quote: Ovsigovets

. 6 times can be obtained

Or maybe not.

Quote: Ovsigovets

.a run then you only EAO))))

[Ovsigovets]

point 1. specifically you were when I (we) were not there? Or are you generally talking about ancient Jews ???)))) I thought only Armenians and Ukrainians are ancient seamen - have you really decided to join this host of great and ancient ???)))
point 2. here is 50 to 50, and the price of this is the life of children, women .... the price is high - you need to measure it 7 times and cut it once.
clause 3. The Russian Federation is the only country in the world that has allocated an autonomous region for the Jews (now an oblast) and note at the latitude not of Kolyma, but of Ukraine (if you do not have 2 in geography) and exactly 1,5 times MORE than Israel itself. ..so your joke is so ... ungrateful

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

I thought only Armenians and Ukrainians were ancient seamen - did you really decide to join this host of great and ancient ???

Do you have someone to ask when in church you will bow down to earth to a Jew?

Quote: Ovsigovets

2. here it is 50 to 50, and the price of this is the life of children, women .... the price is great - you need to measure it 7 times and cut it once.

Otozh, you tell the Iranians. 5 times to step on one rake .. not comme il faut.

Quote: Ovsigovets

... The Russian Federation is the only country in the world that has allocated an autonomous region for Jews (now a region)

and the only country in the world. where are the Jews in their area
0,92%. and the Russians are 97.

Quote: Ovsigovets

and exactly 1,5 times MORE than Israel itself.

sii?

[Ovsigovets]

1.for Christians, he is the son of God .... not a Jewish son, but God .... so if you are going to balk, I will remind you of an anecdote about a bear cub born in a pigsty, BUT it did not become a pig
2. and the Iranians must remember, but you must not forget .... otherwise look - today you are an "Israeli", and tomorrow you are an "Iranian"
3. it is not "their" area, but for them the area ... and who is their doctor, that they do not want to live there
4. Are you sure a Jew? more no less)))))

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

... for Christians he is a son of God .... not a Jewish son, but God ..

well, yes, dad is Jewish, mom is Jewish - and he is the son of God

Quote: Ovsigovets

2. and the Iranians must remember, but you must not forget .... otherwise look - today you are an "Israeli", and tomorrow you are an "Iranian"

or are you a citizen of the USSR today. tomorrow - Kazakh. and after tomorrow - the Chinese. --- as an example

Quote: Ovsigovets

it is not "their" area, but for them the area ... and who is their doctor, that they do not want to live there

this is not a doctor. you need to have brains here

Quote: Ovsigovets

Are you sure a Jew? more no less))

better to lose with a smart than find a fool.

[Ovsigovets]

you know))) you are sorting out here while on horseback .... while on horseback I will repeat ... at any moment when you lose and run (just do not think that I want this) then the busting will end and you will not have to choose and take, what they give. And this is on condition that there will be someone to run.
And yes)))) according to the history of the conception of Christ, a Jew is not his dad))) a Jew there is more likely the first cuckold

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

you know))) you are sorting out here while on horseback

are you on horseback?

Quote: Ovsigovets

. while on horseback I will repeat ..

yes I remember . while . for now, our next generation will live under communism, etc., etc. and today Israel exists more than the USSR

Quote: Ovsigovets

.any moment when you lose and run (just do not think that I want this) then the busting will end

Well, in general, this is the fate of any loser. the Arabs know this. and no one is immune from this - including you.

Quote: Ovsigovets

and you don't have to choose and take what you give.

Yes . the Armenians do it. the Arabs know this. you know the same --- we. do not know yet.

Quote: Ovsigovets

And yes)))) according to the history of the conception of Christ, a Jew is not his dad))) a Jew there is more likely the first cuckold

and mom?
shitty heredity at the gymnast.
Mama ???
Dad apparently d.u.i.l. --- believe in such crap
By the way, you should study what you believe in and when you decided that my mother carried it from the holy spirit. Here the Armenians (and they accepted Christianity early) believe. that Yeshua was born an ordinary person (from dad and mom) and only after being resurrected he became God.
They were closer to the real history for almost 800 years. they know the truth.
Want to talk more --- about the story of birth?
kukold

[Ovsigovets]

1. When are you interested in "under the horse" then just in case of fire ??? to hop ass and you are ready, and all the others are not ??? sorry, BUT this is not for me ... how is it underneath I will not tell you
2. emmmmmm ...... but what have communism or the USSR? or are you just as an example "there was a country and there is no country" ???? so here's an illustrative example - look - there is a country and there is no country
3. the fate of the loser and the Arabs know and remember .... they are vindictive ... and if you think that you are invulnerable, I will remind you of the "holocaust", when a whole nation was killed, burned and destroyed by all available means and no one is for them by and large did not intercede - remember this story too
4.I don't know ...... my country, in one form or another, has a history as a country much longer than Israel ... the borders only changed and change relatively regularly ...... the core either grows by limitrophes or gets rid of from them. I did not find the times of the Tatar-Mongol yoke and how it was then I do not remember))))
5.you know this is such a well-established myth that a Jew cannot be a fool (regarding the husband of a Jewish cuckold and deBil))))))) ...... but once my good friend, a purebred elderly Jew, when I asked about the modern authorities of Ukraine that from where so many fools answered me "Hush ... hush .... they (the Jews are fools) have a nest there")))))))))))

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

... When are you interested in "under the horse" then just in case of fire ???

is this the answer to my question?

Quote: Ovsigovets

ummmmmm ...... but what has communism or the USSR? Or are you just as an example "there was a country and there is no country"?

well

Quote: Ovsigovets

the fate of the loser and the Arabs know and remember .... they are vindictive.

not sure . Do you know Arabs 7 Arabic? do you work together?

Quote: Ovsigovets

that you are invulnerable - I will remind you of the "Holocaust", when a whole nation was killed, burned and destroyed by all available means and no one, by and large, stood up for them - remember this story

Well, where is that Germany now. Hitler, Nazism - and where is Israel?

Quote: Ovsigovets

I don't know ...... my country in one form or another has a much longer history as a country than Israel

come on . don't drive ...

Quote: Ovsigovets

the boundaries have only changed and are changing relatively regularly ..

in what haystack?

Quote: Ovsigovets

I did not find the times of the Tatar-Mongol yoke and how it was then I do not remember)))

so, if you didn't find it, then it wasn't?

Quote: Ovsigovets

you know this is such a long-established myth that a Jew cannot be a fool

Of course it can - only people like you can believe in these fairy tales

Quote: Ovsigovets

.but once my good friend purebred elderly Jew to my question about the modern authorities of Ukraine, why did so many fools answer me "Hush ... hush .... they (the Jews are fools) have a nest there")))))))))))

well, you see. ... are different.
And you all believe in fairy tales that if a Jew is, moreover, a purebred and elderly, it means smart.

[Ovsigovets]

1. and there will be no other answer)))) I cannot know the place where I have not been
2.so otzh ..... nothing lasts forever .... must be remembered
3.Only from the words of the citizens of Israel)))) specific citizens - they did not have a gesheft from me and therefore it was not an option to cheat in order to earn money ... in short, there was no great sense for them to deceive me ... therefore I just believe my word
4.you speak so for Nazism and Hitler with that Germany as if you dragged the war there ... ... remember the sad ... you burned like wood at that moment and acted as terpils ... so quieter in that context
5.well, give me the ancient history of independent Israel (any name) but only in the role of an independent state ... you can have a short course .... I will read with interest ..... the ancient sea-cops (Ukrainians) and the first people (Armenians) I I have already read it briefly - now come on with yours)))
6.the borders changed in different directions, but the modern Russian Federation in one form or another grew more than it lost - you can understand if there are not 2 in geography))) and you know how to read maps at least a little
7.the history of TMI is very vague and there are just a bunch of variants of the history of this period ... everyone is free to defend the one that is closer to him
8.the myth he is a myth .... it's like an oral tradition and even a little fairy tale .... now I will believe you)))) let it be that 50% (just for balance) of the Jews are fools))) you to what 50% of yourself will you take - I'm just smart or handsome for the sake of information)))

[Ovsigovets]

and they will also bring me a witness of conception ... so to speak, so that knowledge from a source ... a primary source

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

and they will also bring me a witness of conception ... so to speak, so that knowledge from a source ... a primary source

but why should I, you believe in it.
we are not

[Ovsigovets]

the question of faith does not need proof))))) your right to believe or not ... but you shouldn't get into questions of faith with your stinking hands .... I am an ecclesiastical person and probably more of a deist, but due to nationality and place of birth, Orthodox ... so you won't hurt me with your barbs .... but personally I myself try to show tolerance towards people in matters of faith ....... and I see you decided to show me why the Jews were drowned in Ukraine)))) ) you get

[Hort]

Duc while we were flying here in space, Moses already dragged them across the Sahara on excursions

[tralflot1832]

You were only according to a Biblical tale, and for money you can write anything. You constantly find and invent something.

[shahor]

Quote: tralflot1832

You were only according to a Biblical tale, and for money you can write anything. You constantly find and invent something.

Well, you would not boast of your ignorance ... Well, you don't know the story, it's okay. But putting it on display is a shame, dear.

[atalef]

Quote: tralflot1832

You were only according to a Bible tale, but for the money you can write anything. Constantly find something and invent something.

do you believe

[Essex62]

And this is what? They believe, I, for example, no, what changes?
You are seriously trying to prove that you are not vulnerable and not defeated. But it doesn't work that way. Comrade has been trying to explain this for an hour. Personally, I would not like Israel to fly in earnestly and to seriously answer. Here is the current of radioactive mushrooms, on a tight ball, we do not have enough. You have to be more flexible, half, at least you have smart ones.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Ovsigovets

and then you only run the EAO))))

Bolivar will not stand two, and they are unlikely to want to voluntarily leave the "promised" lands !!!!

[Ovsigovets]

I beg you))))) the population density in the Jewish Autonomous Region is 4,5 people per square km)))) that there are those 7 million Jews for an area 1,5 times larger than Israel itself. And this is not about tourism, but about a possible escape. Friends from Israel told me something like this: "Roma, if they break through our defenses, they will cut us to the root and will not regret even babies" ..... I tend to trust my friends

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Friends from Israel told me something like this: "Roma, if they break through our defenses, they will cut us to the root and will not even spare babies" ..... I tend to trust my friends

They are lying, of course. Who will slaughter whom? Do you know how many Arabs are living in Israel now and it’s not bad? They will slaughter them too, and other peoples, for example, Russians? Do not scare them with horror stories.

[72jora72]

Do you know how many Arabs live in Israel now and not bad?

And everyone (everyone), at the slightest opportunity, will rush to slaughter Jews, rob shops and burn everything around ...

[Ovsigovets]

))))) I was taught in childhood that blacks live in Africa (C) ... there are no Russians

[Revolver]

Quote: Ovsigovets

I was taught as a child that blacks live in Africa (C)

Fu how politically incorrect, they are not blacks for some time now, but African Americans.

[Ovsigovets]

as a child I was taught not to lie ... and blacks live in Africa

[Ovsigovets]

right in front of your eyes is how Muammar Kadaffi did)))))) civilization

[DED_peer_DED]

And this is not about tourism, but about a possible escape.

These citizens are warm-loving and sociable. They will not live in the Jewish Autonomous Region. They will move to Crimea. Was it in vain that they took him?

[Ovsigovets]

you won’t believe it))) but it’s warm in the Jewish Autonomous Region ... you’ll at least look at the latitude

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

I beg you))))) population density in the Jewish Autonomous Region is 4,5 people per square km))

and the Esrians there are generally 1 per 450 square kilometers.

[Ovsigovets]

here ... there is room to grow

[Revolver]

As they used to say in the USSR, it is better to go to distant relatives in the Middle East than to close ones in the distant one.

[lucul]

5 raziks tried to blame the backwoods, but what was the result?

Remind me please - if you are so invincible, then why did you not have your own state for 2 years (!!!)? ))))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: lucul

5 raziks tried to blame the backwoods, but what was the result?

Remind me please - if you are so invincible, then why did you not have your own state for 2 years (!!!)? ))))

The Romans were stronger

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnodar

The Romans were stronger

Yes, not the Romans are stronger, but the Jews, right during the war with Rome, staged a small civil war in besieged Jerusalem. Sadukeys, Pharisees, Sikkari, and what else is there - it's all about the Jews of those times. And if anyone ruins today's Israel, it is the Jews themselves. By the way, gentlemen (or, if you like it more, comrades) Israelis, how long until the next elections?
Truly, the Jews have no more terrible enemies than themselves.

[Krasnodar]

I agree - the Jews lost to Rome because of "unreasonable hatred" for each other

[atalef]

Quote: lucul

Remind me please - if you are so invincible, then why did you not have your own state for 2 years (!!!)?

Well, since such a booze has gone - how long have you been sitting under the Tatar-Mongol yoke? And where did the USSR go?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Is it really 2001? And with regards to the USSR, it was the country of the Soviet people. And many of today's Jews as well. It is a pity that you forgot about it.

[atalef]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

And with regards to the USSR, it was the country of the Soviet people. And many of today's Jews as well. It's a pity you forgot about it

I remember. but there is no country

[IS-80_RVGK2]

So it turns out that this is our common defeat. And as it is, neither the antiquity nor the greatness of the ancestors helped to avoid the sad ending. Maybe because we live here and now, and not 2000 years ago?

[atalef]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

So it turns out that this is our common defeat

Whose general?

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

And as it is, neither the antiquity nor the greatness of the ancestors helped to avoid the sad ending.

Well, life moves in a spiral, after 2000 years we revived the country and became strong, God forbid you succeed, you just need to believe and work - and it will be rewarded.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

General in the sense and yours too. Yes, perhaps you should rejoice while there is such an opportunity. Harsh times are coming. I am not at all optimistic. Well, that is, of course, in the end everything will probably be fine and complete communism. But no one promised happiness on the way. And here such a porridge is brewed according to the redistribution of a dried-up pie, what is it?

[lucul]

Well life is in a spiral

So all the same to the Hittites or to the Pharaoh? )))

[Essex62]

Under the Mongols, most likely, not a single day. There was nothing to do to nomadic cattle breeders who did not know the state and who never obeyed any central authority, they in their steppes had never heard of such, and if only they met with some frostbitten bandit, such as Chvgoniz, they picked up belongings and yurtochad people and rushed away from sin , for 6000 versts. Well, okay in a straight line less, if to Ryazan.
Ygo is his own thugs, homegrown. They sin, and not without reason, against Alexander Yaroslavich and his descendants.

[MMX]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Ovsigovets

here you see a nuance ... if Israel sprinkles even a little, then they will pile on it in a bunch and they will blame the noglushnyak ..

5 raziks tried to blame the backwoods, but what was the result?

Well, in general, if we follow your logic, then the ratio of victories / defeats in Israel is not in favor of the latter. And so well not in favor ...

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

taking into account the geographical position, it is possible another genocide

But with this in more detail, please, if you just do not have 2 in geography.

[Ovsigovets]

geographically Israel is not surrounded by friends ... the sea ... but the sea is such a thing ... it is difficult to evacuate the country

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

geographically Israel is not surrounded by friends.

we are like you

[Ovsigovets]

hmmmmmm ....... well, if you take it as a sign - you fought with this neighbor / did not fight, then YES .... there are only "enemies" around)))))) .... and if you actually look - then the Finns are very nice neighbors and there are no questions with them - neither at the level of ordinary people, nor at the level of governments ... (I just live next to them - with the Finns in the sense)))))

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

.. and if you look at it, then the Finns are very nice neighbors and there are no questions with them

We have the same Jordan. egypt. Saudi UAE, Bahrain, etc. - very pleasant neighbors and there are no more questions for them

Quote: Ovsigovets

neither at the level of ordinary people, nor at the level of governments ... (I just live next to them - with the Finns in the sense)))))

When I was posting the story on various travel resources, I was surprised by the reactive wave of some people just for the chapter telling (very briefly) about the Winter Russian-Finnish War of 1939-40s. “Why do we need to know this? When we go to Finka we want a holiday, not an unpleasant story ... All this is not true ... and so on. "
But - this war is not a private history of Finland. The results of this war influenced (and still influence) the attitude of the Finns towards the Russians.
In our country, the memory of the events of That Winter is castrated. The Finns, on the other hand, have a cult attitude towards her.
We have a "short memory" - the Finns have a "heavy memory".
We have “heightened forgetfulness” - the Finns have “heightened perception”.
It's not that we don't remember These Events, we don't want to know them. - And the Finns, whose relatives died in this campaign (there is almost no such Finnish family where this does not happen), can spit out a curse at us.
These are the counterweights.

[Ovsigovets]

well, once said C then talk about A and B ... let's initially talk about all the Finnish-Russian wars after the revolution and not just 39)))) the fact that the Finns remember it well)))) they are excellent neighbors because they remember ..... well, in fact, do not the Finns start the first two wars after the revolution - you look and there was no war of 1939 ... on the contrary, I know a little more))))

[Ovsigovets]

sorry ... in that time period of the Soviet-Finnish or Finnish-Soviet wars

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

the fact that the Finns remember it well))

Arabs remember the same

Quote: Ovsigovets

they are great neighbors because they remember ... well, in fact, do not the Finns start the first two wars after the revolution - you look and there was no war of 1939 ... on the contrary, I know a little more))))

I say - with logic as you are the problem.
The Arabs started the same wars 5 times, under the shadow of a recently lost country - there is no country, and the Arabs have grown wiser.
So if Iran has to pull the strap alone, it will tear his pants.

[Ovsigovets]

Well, you probably know better on the spot ... it's just that the Finns are not Arabs by nature .... although there are almost Finns (Balts), so those are straight "Tribaltic tigers" and act aggressively like "keep me seven" and now we'll tear everyone apart. .... but I think that at some point Iran will step over a certain limit after which everyone's pants will break in that mess))))) and you cheer up here .... by the way, I will interpolate your story with Iran to my borderland

[Ovsigovets]

m at that moment it may happen that all the other Arabs who have grown wiser and those with whom you are doing well in business will suddenly remember that they are still Arabs and you have offended them ... and then the chance to rob and kill with impunity is not enough ... . be careful like that

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Yeah, Russians are Jews, they only live in the north and the country is a little bigger.

[Lech from Android.]

Fear ... Fear ... well, fear me just a little ... For I am terrible in anger.

[user1212]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Gentlemen, Jews, don't you think that at a certain moment, a lot will fly to you?!?

Attempts to hang them a lot have already been and more than once. Their success in repelling such attacks instilled in them the confidence of their own invincibility. Sooner or later this will play a cruel joke with them, however, the Jews are preparing well, this cannot be taken away

[Ovsigovets]

what we are talking about ... the critical mass grows ... when nito breaks this dam

[Nazar]

user1212 (User) - you can criticize the state of Israel for a long time and reasonably (there is a reason), but many people who are not strangers to us live there. My classmates are there, and now their children and grandchildren are they and people like them who have achieved that Victory Day is a holiday in Israel and, moreover, on the 9th (!) May, like ours, they go to the "immortal regiment" there whole families. Humanly, these people are much closer to me than the same Arabs or Persians. But in politics there is no concept of "humanly" and war is not needed by the other, I mean the peoples, and not about the possessed politicians, which is on the other side.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Nazar

and not about the possessed politicians, which is on the other side.

Khamenei stated : “The position of Iran, which was first expressed by the Imam [Khomeini] ... is that a cancer called Israel must be eradicated from the region "
“The basis of the Islamic regime is opposition to Israel, and the permanent subject of Iran is the elimination of Israel from the region ”.
"Imam [Khomeini]
“According to the Supreme Leader's statement celebrating Navruz, that Tel Aviv and Haifa will be destroyed…. The Armed Forces are ready with all their might to fulfill the orders of the Supreme Leader in the shortest possible time "
These are just a few of the statements from Iran.
And now you give a similar statement from Israel.
Then, it will be possible to continue the dialogue about the "possessed" politicians from the other side.

[Nazar]

Vitaly Gusin - You mean the words, and it’s not for nothing that they say that you have to judge by deeds, and you don’t have to go far, who crashed physics? Zulus? and then you wonder why they want to destroy you so much.
I do not shield the Persians, those are still frames, my ancestors on my paternal side had big troubles from the Persians. But here is just the case: "two boots - a pair"

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Nazar

You mean words, but it’s not for nothing that it’s said - you have to judge by deeds - and here you don’t have to go far

In the beginning was Word, and the Word was with God /
But there were those who decided to replace this word with their own, and then replaced it with an action.
In September 1919 Mr. Hitler wrote his first political document, in which he declared that the Jewish question can only be resolved completely the elimination of Jews from Europe.
Final decision on the detailed program mass destruction was taken January 20 1942 years at the Wannsee conference. Dieter Wisliceny, interrogated at the Nuremberg Tribunal on January 3, 1946, argued that the period of systematic extermination of Jews in the policy of "final decision" began in 1942.
I hope you understand that another Hitler or his followers with WORDS about the extermination of Jews will not come to the point and there will be no one to judge.
Here is a statement made yesterday when not NO evidence that Israel did it.
"We have declared several times in the face of Israel that we will strike across Haifaif Israel makes a mistake. Now that we can prove the role of the Zionist regime in this great martyrdom, we can realize this threat, but not in the sense that we will be satisfied with the missile-sized operation we had against the military base of Ain al-Assad, and not in the sense of this operation, but in the sense that, in fact, we must attack the important port city of Haifa in such a way that, in addition to destroying facilities, it also led to heavy loss of lifeso that our containment reaches a “safe point”.
http://kayhan.ir/fa/news/204532
Not just, but to HUMAN VICTIMS
Not a military man, not a scientist, but women, children, old people. Just JEWS.
I don't know if you are familiar with this material or not, but it doesn't hurt to remember.

19. The conditions governing the possibility of application by the Russian Federation nuclear weapons are:
a) receipt of reliable information about the launch of ballistic missiles, attacking the territory of the Russian Federation and (or) its allies;
b) the use by the adversary of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction across the territories of the Russian Federation and (or) its allies;
c) the impact of the enemy to critical government or military installations The Russian Federation, the failure of which will lead to the disruption of the response actions of the nuclear forces;
d) aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened.
Apply it first, before the start of a nuclear war as such, at a time when the enemy is only trying to provide for himself an opportunity strike with impunity.
And what can Israel apply all of these points?
So, Israel will apply only according to point D)
And in all other cases, he will figure it out without nuclear weapons.
And then Iran is waiting for the same as Syria, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon.

Quote: Nazar

But here is just the case: "two boots - a pair"

There is no pair here.
Israel has had nuclear weapons for 50 years and has not used it even in critical situations.
Iran dreams of obtaining nuclear weapons only for the destruction of Israel, as it has declared and continues to declare.

[Nazar]

Vitaly Gusin - I wrote above about my attitude towards the Israelis and about Victory Day and the Immortal Regiment, but it's just that my childhood friends live there - classmates, and now their children and grandchildren.
I would like to give you an example not from the "near", but from the Far East. The DPRK is a "outcast" country, a hereditary dictator at the head - the reputation of almost a cannibal .... They created nuclear weapons and even some kind of carriers for them, so what? Banged someone? yes no, of course, for them nuclear weapons are guaranteed that they will not crash.
Iran signed an agreement with 6 countries, admitted observers to its facilities, it was not an easy, but a real way to prevent them from creating nuclear weapons. Your allies boorishly threw this agreement into the trash heap and left Iran no choice - just to urgently acquire nuclear weapons just like the DPRK. Now - why provoke the Persians, kill the physicist - eh?
This behavior is typical for a completely different "nation" and is described in a classic anecdote:
- Mykola why did you take the machine gun? Yes, I'll go into the forest, I'll shoot a Moskal. Oh, what if he is you? And what about me? -
So here too - this is not the first murder of scientists, recently the general was banged, the agreement reached with such difficulty was buried, spitting on the position of 5 more not the smallest countries - and now you are sincerely surprised - but what are we for?

[lucul]

Humanly, these people are much closer to me than the same Arabs or Persians.

They just grew up with the Russians. In the same way, a French Jew, or an American Jew, would be as alien to you as an Arab or a Persian.

[Nazar]

lucul - You are right, I wrote "not strangers to us". And about a French or American Jew - who are they to me? Moreover, even people of my nationality, but who were born and lived all their lives in the same France or the United States, are foreigners, a different language, a different culture, and so they will definitely not celebrate Victory Day at the same time as me - on May 9th.

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Nazar

there are many people who are not strangers to us.

Are those who, in difficult times for my country, remembered that they have a second homeland with sausage?

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Ruslan67

Are those who, in difficult times for my country, remembered that they have a second homeland with sausage?

those. Would you like several million foreigners to continue to live in Russia, taking the places of the indigenous population?

[D16]

Their success in repelling such attacks instilled in them the confidence of their own invincibility.

The Armenians also thought so, and instead of preparing for the upcoming war, they filmed scabrous cartoons. It didn’t grow together with invincibility ... I wonder if the Armenian cartoon will continue to work?

[atalef]

Quote: user1212

Attempts to hang them a lot have already been and more than once. Their success in repelling such attacks instilled in them the confidence of their own invincibility. Sooner or later it will play a cruel joke on them,

are you talking about Russia by chance?

[Ovsigovets]

this also applies to Russia ... but this article is not about Russia ...

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

this also applies to Russia ... but this article is not about Russia ...

and it changes something?

[Ovsigovets]

just to each news their comments .... otherwise people gathered in a bunch of horses ..... I do not like porridge .... it's just a way to chatter the essence

[Doccor18]

... fully aware of their own strength and the greatly diminished capabilities of the Americans and Israelis.

Here the author did not understand.
Where has Iran's strength increased over the past 10 years? Does it have brigades of new long-range air defense systems or regiments of the latest fighters?
And how have the capabilities of the US and Israeli air forces decreased? Fighters of the 5th generation began to be massively purchased.
So what has changed in the alignment of forces?
The embargo is over. So Iran still needs time to take advantage of this. So Iran has no time for calm now ...

[D16]

The embargo is over. So Iran still needs time to take advantage of this. So Iran has no time for calm now ...

So you have answered the main question: "Why did they kill the Iranian physicist?" If they do not provoke it now, then in 3-5 years they will not be able to do anything.

[Doccor18]

If not provoked now

Persians are not children. They all understand. If there are retaliatory actions, they will be very accurate and verified, and not hundreds of missiles towards Israel ...
Time is working for Iran, so Tehran will not rush ...

[D16]

Persians are not children.

The trouble is that the actions of their opponents are dumber the further. And what they will demolish in the states next time is even interesting .

[atalef]

Quote: Doccor18

Time is working for Iran, so Tehran will not rush ...

why do you think so . what time works for him?
I remember. I remember - in social studies lessons we were told about the inevitable collapse of capitalism and the triumph of socialism led by the USSR.
time worked - socialism was bent.

[user1212]

Quote: atalef

time worked - socialism bent

Don't worry, you have no other choice either.

[atalef]

Quote: user1212

Quote: atalef

time worked - socialism bent

Don't worry, you have no other choice either.

the difference between us is that one can speak of the USSR as a fait accompli, and in relation to us - nothing more than your wishes.
As my father said, do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs.

[Pessimist22]

Iran needs to buy a nuclear charge from North Korea and bang at the Jews.

[Ovsigovets]

need not............................................

[Ovsigovets]

ska)))))) cons grow just like a lump))))) how bloodthirsty you are and you don’t like Jews ..... all you blood

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Ovsigovets

how bloodthirsty you are and you do not like Jews ...

Because the Jews do not love anyone but themselves. So what you sow is what you reap.
Stop doing government. terrorism, sit down at the negotiating table and you will be happy. Yes, don't forget to reconsider the UN decision to divide the land when Israel is created. Proceed from the principle that the life of a Palestinian Arab is no cheaper than the life of a Jew.

[Ovsigovets]

egocentrism, it is generally characteristic of a person in particular, because the love of Jews for themselves is understandable to me)))) especially considering the dislike of other peoples for them))))
all the Arab countries that surrounded them started the war with Israel - they sowed the wind and now they are reaping a storm from the Jews - I do not justify either those or those, BUT the winner imposes his will on the loser, and the winner is not judged ... The UN Security Council will definitely not be ...
life I was taught is generally priceless, regardless of race or skin color ...
the answer would be enough for me that a Jew is not a woman and not a gold piece of gold to love him ..... and you all strive "in the jungle"))))))

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Ovsigovets

all the Arab countries that surrounded them began the war with Israel - they sowed the wind and now they are reaping a storm from the Jews - I do not justify either

And when the Jews were expelled from Spain, England, Poland, etc., who sowed the wind?
I do not believe that hostility towards Jews grew out of nowhere.
But I don't need to sing songs about the exclusivity of Jews.

[Ovsigovets]

absolutely agree ... it does not happen that everyone is bad and one such good dartanyan ... it meant why to get such dislike ..... for which in Ukraine Jews "fell in love" is also very aware))))). .... but in this context, the winner is Israel .... and he hangs there who loves whom and how and how much))))

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

... why in Ukraine they "fell in love" with Jews, too, very aware)))))

I don’t know. the president is a Jew. Parliament is headed by a Jew.
how is it - we will judge by deeds.?

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

And when the Jews were expelled from Spain, England, Poland, etc., who sowed the wind?
I do not believe that hostility towards Jews grew out of nowhere.
But I don't need to sing songs about the exclusivity of Jews.

What does exclusivity have to do with it? It's just that the rulers had the opportunity, under a plausible pretext, to expropriate not the poorest group of the population. In the treasury, you know, there is always little money, but there is always a pretext - they crucified such different kinds of Christ and finally. From Germany, too, since 1933, at first they tried to squeeze out the Jews, and arianize their businesses and property. But for some reason the Jews were in no hurry to sell their belongings for a pittance and leave, and waited for the "final solution of the Jewish question" with extermination camps and gas chambers.
And note, the countries abandoned by the Jews, from the Old Testament Egypt to the Third Reich, soon afterwards underwent considerable upheavals and lost their status as great powers.

[Ovsigovets]

you know ... in Ukraine, ordinary people "fell in love" with the Jews for the fact that they took the Orthodox churches from the Catholics at the mercy of the Panychs and took money from the people for everything ..... they loved them for usury and in general ... they are cute) )))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Ovsigovets

you know ... in Ukraine, ordinary people "fell in love" with the Jews for the fact that they took the Orthodox churches from the Catholics at the mercy of the Panychs and took money from the people for everything ..... they loved them for usury and in general ... they are cute) )))

Horror! We would be normal people - they would just steal

[Ovsigovets]

you know ... in those days, not a baptized child is such an achievement for himself ... or not an inveterate deceased ... it was just for what if it was very simple

[Krasnodar]

Of course, there was a reason. Did you make christenings for free in modern Russia? ))

[Ovsigovets]

we are talking about the times when in Ukraine the Orthodox voluntarily and compulsorily tried to make the Uniates ... and the Jews contributed to this ... so there is a long and boring history

[Krasnodar]

Not aware of this

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Krasnodar

Not aware of this

Well, read the history of the Brest union.

[Ovsigovets]

christening is not a critical indicator for me

[Krasnodar]

My point is that everyone always makes money on religion. Not only Jews. ))

[Ovsigovets]

at birth and death ... well, yes, probably ... but I try not to get involved in matters of faith, and I will definitely not advise believers how to do and what to do ...

[Krasnodar]

And outside of religion, there is a whole industry around birth and death, both ritual and industrial

[Korsar4]

This is probably understandable.
"A person is red three times in his life: when he was born, when he married, when he died."

[Krasnodar]

Quote from Korsar4

This is probably understandable.
"A person is red three times in his life: when he was born, when he married, when he died."

And all of the above is good money))

[Korsar4]

Try not to shell out anyway.
But not to approach everything with a piggy bank.

Balzac is reminded of "People Dressed in Black."

[Krasnodar]

In this world? To all

[Korsar4]

If this principle is taken as a basis, it remains to be surprised that not everything is still in the teams of Sollozzo or Don Corleone.

[Krasnodar]

actually, the biggest institution of violence is the state

[Korsar4]

It depends on what part of the system you are in at the moment.

[Krasnodar]

If you are not at the top of the food chain of a non-democratic government system, then you are always tolerant, and the government is always a bandit

[Korsar4]

I think it's a little more complicated. There is always a niche. As a rule, depending on internal inclinations.

[Krasnodar]

the most free and independent people are homeless)). No obligations and milking on the part of the state, and even imprisonment by them is considered as the use of state resources for personal comfort))

[Korsar4]

O'Henry had a good account of this.
I love Harry Martinson's Road to the Kingdom of the Bells. The Swedes knew a lot about vagrancy.

[Krasnodar]

Vagrancy = independence)) Other percentages of homeless people are equal in all countries - sho in the USA, sho in Kenya. Social phenomenon

[Korsar4]

From our proverbs: "Do not be afraid of bondage, fear the will."

[Krasnodar]

Paternalism in its purest form))

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Krasnodar

Horror! We would be normal people - they would just steal

So they do not disdain this, as if you do not know.
True, justice for, theft, for the state. level and not only, representatives of other nationalities are also involved.

[Krasnodar]

In all fairness, since they steal in the post-Soviet space, they do not steal anywhere. Even my relatives (wives) stole from me here.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Krasnodar

Even my relatives (wives) stole from me here.

Well yes. My wife isn’t Jewish.
And how did you get on with it?

[Krasnodar]

The wife is not Jewish)))
And the workers are not Jews
And stealing is not Israel's trouble

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Krasnodar

And the workers are not Jews
And stealing is not Israel's trouble lol

So what's the problem? Recruit Jews and you will be spared theft.

[Krasnodar]

Where can I get them in Krasnodar? Or doctors or Commerce

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Krasnodar

Or doctors or Commerce

And why "doctors" with a small letter, and "Commerce with a capital"?
Doctors are not entitled to status?

[Krasnodar]

No, because the iPhone corrects me to Kommersant

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Krasnodar

No, because the iPhone corrects me to Kommersant

Well, the iPhone knows what it's doing.

[Revolver]

Quote: Ovsigovets

you know ... in Ukraine, ordinary people "fell in love" with the Jews for the fact that they took the Orthodox churches from the Catholics at the mercy of the Panychs and took money from the people for everything ..... they loved them for usury and in general ... they are cute) )))

These days, you know, collectors are not very popular either. And in those days, almost all professions were closed to Jews except retail, usury, and collectors. The last two Christians should not be engaged in kagbe, and services are in demand. In those days, the churches did not have tax exemptions, and had to pay the landowner for real estate built on his land, and income tax. It would seem, pay taxes and sleep peacefully, but then, as now, they did not like to pay taxes, but, on the contrary, liked to evade payments. Accordingly, the Panov, so as not to bother with this themselves, provided this case to Jewish collectors for a small share. Accordingly, the Jew got all the hatred, and the pan type was all in white.

[Ovsigovets]

no one dragged them by the horns to usury

[Revolver]

Quote: Ovsigovets

no one dragged them by the horns to usury

But I just wanted to eat it every day, and where to go if almost all professions and types of business are prohibited? And which are not prohibited, there the local market has long been divided and you can fit in there. Well, there is no need in the town of another baker, butcher, tailor, shoemaker, rags-dealer, and even more so a rabbi, and one must learn from them. And why do they need students if everyone has a son, or a son-in-law, or a nephew, who will inherit the shop, workshop, synagogue, and who are taught almost from childhood how to do business. Today, collectors do not come from the fact that a promising career; and in the 1990s, engineers did not go to the shuttles from a good life.

[Ovsigovets]

orphans ... just a mean tear rolled down ... I can see how coal is chopped in mines with a pick))))

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nagan

But I just wanted to eat it every day, and where to go if almost all professions and types of business are prohibited? And which are not prohibited, there is a local market already

Who is prohibited when prohibited? Please provide evidence of your statement.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nagan

Accordingly, the Panov, so as not to bother with this themselves, provided this case to Jewish collectors for a small share. Accordingly, the Jew got all the hatred, and the pan type was all in white.

Yes Yes Yes. Poor Jews fought back as best they could from the master's coercion, but .... They turned out to be weak in character and therefore could not resist the pressure of the gentry.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nagan

It's just that the rulers had the opportunity, under a plausible pretext, to expropriate not the poorest group of the population.

But what about the Russian Pale of Settlement? Why do the Chinese and Japanese do not want to let them in?

[Krasnodar]

The Chinese did not want to let them in? Japanese? I haven't read that. The Turks let in and laughed at the Spanish Ferdinand, who drove them out.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

But I don't need to sing songs about the exclusivity of Jews.

So in fact they were repeatedly excluded

from Spain, England, Poland, etc.,

.
That means they are exceptional.

[shahor]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I do not believe that hostility towards Jews grew out of nowhere.

Not empty! They crucified Christ! Are you satisfied?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: shahor

Not empty! They crucified Christ! Are you satisfied?

No. Not for that. Therefore, I am not satisfied.

[shahor]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

No. Not for that.

Now I am not satisfied. Explain your point of view.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

And when the Jews were expelled from Spain, England, Poland, etc., who sowed the wind?
I do not believe that hostility towards Jews grew out of nowhere.

You are right, not from scratch.
There were two main reasons everyone had to convert to Christianity.
And the plague, which mowed down the entire population, and the Jews observed hygiene as they say today, according to religion it is necessary to change hands after using the toilet, you cannot take the Torah without washing your hands, etc. lived separately from others. And the mortality rate was significantly less than that of others. So they were accused that it was they who brought the plague and evicted.
At all times they find a reason. The main thing is that there are Jews, and the reason is not a problem.
When the taps appeared, there was also a reason

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

... and the Jews observed hygiene, as they say today, according to religion it is necessary to change hands after using the toilet, you cannot take the Torah without washing your hands, etc. lived separately from

Oh oh oh. Forgive me, but I had to be in a Jewish home (private), I saw enough and sniffed Jewish hygiene. And this is in the 20th century. And what then was in the "dark times of the Inquisition"?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I saw enough and sniffed Jewish hygiene.

Yes, you're out of luck.
They are Jews only in their passports, and then hardly.
Washing hands - Netilat yadaim
According to Jewish tradition, it is customary to wash your hands when you wake up in the morning, and also before eating bread.
Washing hands with bread before meals.
As for the washing of hands before a meal, this is the decree of King Shlomo and his rabbinical court.
When else should you wash your hands?

Here's when to wash your hands with water:

- getting out of bed;

- leaving the toilet;

- leaving the bath;

- after nail clipping;

- after hair cutting and after shaving;

- putting on or taking off shoes with your hands;

- after intimacy;

- washing or combing the head;

- by touching the part of the body that is usually hidden under clothing;

- leaving the room where the dead is, or returning from the cemetery - also do netilat yadaim.
In some cases of the above, ablution is done both for purity and for the removal of the spirit.
Say hello to your non-Jews.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

They are Jews only in their passports, and then hardly.

A purely Jewish answer. Quickly disown co-religionists if suddenly something.

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

According to Jewish tradition, it is customary to wash your hands,

Only hands ???

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

As for the washing of hands before a meal, this is the decree of King Shlomo and his rabbinical court.

Oh, how, in order to force (teach, as an option) the Jews to wash their hands before eating, it took a decree (???) (does the king decree?) Of the king. Not weak.

[avib]

Everything is outrageously simple. Jews were kicked out - Jewish property was taken over.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: avib

Everything is outrageously simple. Jews were kicked out - Jewish property was taken over.

Then explain to me why they were not allowed to enter Russia further than the Pale of Settlement?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Then explain to me why they were not allowed to enter Russia further than the Pale of Settlement?

Because they weren't smart.
Serfdom and the Pale of Settlement led Russia to the revolution, Lenin made good use of both.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Because they weren't smart.
Serfdom and the Pale of Settlement led Russia to the revolution, Lenin made good use of both.

Mixed up in a heap ... the Pale of Settlement, serfdom and Lenin. Serfdom was abolished in 1861, while revolutions happened in 1917, what do these events have in common? At the same time, nobody canceled the Pale of Settlement.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Mixed together ...

You're right. This is exactly what happened.
From the abolition of serfdom to the revolution, 56 years passed, the peasants and their children were both beggars and remained, and the master, as he was rich, remained. It was enough to tell the land to the peasants and the factories to the workers.
Well, about people from the Pale of Settlement, and so everything is clear, the eternal dream to be free.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

as they were beggars, they remained, and the master, as he was rich, remained. It was enough to tell the land to the peasants and the factories to the workers.

Well, following your logic, the Jews dreamed of abolishing the Pale of Settlement so that they could go to explore the uninhabited expanses of the Arctic.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

so that they can go to explore the uninhabited expanses of the Arctic.

I didn't understand where the Jews were and where the Arctic was.
No, they just wanted to be equal among equals, but later they explained everything very clearly.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

I didn't understand where the Jews were and where the Arctic was.

And you won't understand. How do you not understand that freedom does not exist without responsibilities.

[Roman_LKW]

The Poles just accepted the Jews and strongly divorced them in Ukraine. But in their swagger they framed them robustly, making them managers of the estates, which in the first place resulted in hatred from the common people. In Ukraine, mainly on the right bank, there used to be a lot of Jews and there were no problems with them. Although my grandmother told a story - why the Jews did not work anywhere, but lived richly - it turns out that they typed money on a typewriter, which was passed from district to district ...

[avib]

Quote: Roman_LKW

why the Jews did not work anywhere, but lived richly - it turns out, they printed money on a typewriter, which was transferred from district to district ...

This is approximately the second grade, third quarter.

Jews lived in different ways - like everyone else - there were rich and there were poor - read Sholom Aleichem.
The poor people took a very active part in the 1917 revolution and in the formation of the Soviet State. The Jews were still very effective managers.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Roman_LKW

Although my grandmother told a story - why the Jews did not work anywhere, but lived richly - it turns out that they typed money on a typewriter, which was passed from district to district ...

Okay, grandma.
But you are not a grandmother and paper, and paints, and gendarmerie, and spies, and informers, but you drove a typewriter and printed money.
And everything is simple as always.
Only here they asked why Jews were evicted from everywhere for centuries.
So, during this time, the Jews realized that there must be a profession that will feed them in a new place.
Shoemaker, tailor, hairdresser, jeweler. And when there was some money left, they collected it in gold, who was better in demand and there was money, lent (usurers). But not everyone wanted to work a lot and Sonya "golden hands" and Mishka Yaponchiki appeared.
But now, when there is the state of Israel, you can be calm and own any professions that Jews did not know before and even teach others.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

And when the Jews were expelled from Spain, England, Poland, etc., who sowed the wind?
I do not believe that hostility towards Jews grew out of nowhere.

Are Jews needed in Russia?

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Proceed from the principle that the life of a Palestinian Arab is no cheaper than the life of a Jew.

The life of a Jew is worth 1027 Arabs. Moreover, this ratio was established by the Arabs themselves, and they demanded even more. Exactly 1027 Arab terrorists were released from prisons in exchange for one Corporal Gilad Shalit (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalit_Gilad) in 2011. Taking into account the inflation of Arab lives since then, it will probably be more likely now.

[DAQ]

Given the inflation of Arab lives since those times, it probably will now be more

The expression "inflation of Arab lives" is the height of cynicism.
Soon they will be asking "what course is a Jew / Arab?"
Tough troll.

[atalef]

Quote: Nasdaq

Soon they will be asking "what course is a Jew / Arab?"
Tough troll.

the last fixed --- 1027 to 1, but in Israel I am very indignant at this and claim that it will be changed one by one.
The Arabs disagree. The price does not suit them.

[Revolver]

Quote: Nasdaq

The expression "inflation of Arab lives" is the height of cynicism.

So since then, Arab lives have plummeted in value. Count how many Arabs were killed after 2011. Moreover, in the list of those who killed Arabs, Jews are by no means first, and not even in the top three. And the first place in the murder of Arabs is occupied by ... (drum roll) ... ARABS !!!

[atalef]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Because the Jews do not love anyone but themselves.

and you love everyone

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

So what you sow is what you reap.

that's for sure . perhaps that's why - 14 republics - 14 sisters are running at a gallop from you.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Stop doing government. terrorism, sit down at the negotiating table and you will be happy.

yes we have it

Released on Wednesday March 14th, the UN's World Happiness Report ranked Israel high in the global rankings for the second consecutive year. In terms of a number of indicators, the Jewish state is ahead of many developed world powers.
Finland is named the happiest country on the planet in 2018, Israel holds 11th position on the list... The top ten includes Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Sweden and Australia
Syria - 150th, Yemen - 152nd and Burundi - 156th place on the top of the list. And Russia took only 59th line of the listbehind Latvia, Nicaragua and Uzbekistan ..

maybe you should start with yourself?

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Yes, don't forget to reconsider the UN decision to divide the land when Israel is created. Proceed from the principle that the life of a Palestinian Arab is no cheaper than the life of a Jew.

what is the bazaar about? They installed it themselves --- 1027 for 1

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: atalef

and you love everyone

In any case, I have no negative feelings towards any of the peoples.

Quote: atalef

that's for sure . perhaps that's why - 14 republics - 14 sisters are running at a gallop from you.

You might think that you have never been wrong.
Yes, not just at a gallop, but there were forces that by deceit (!!!) took them away from us.
But, the one who laughs last laughs well. It can still return to normal.

[tralflot1832]

Why is Kim, Pakistan is closer!

[Doccor18]

Quote: tralflot1832

Why is Kim, Pakistan is closer!

Only if geographically ...
But politically unrealistic. Pakistan is closer to the United States, to China, to anyone, but not to Iran.

[tralflot1832]

So China wants to invest in Iran in 150 lard, and this is only official. Pakistan has seriously befriended China against India, and the United States is friends with India against China. Recently, they have already begun to conduct reconnaissance from their UAVs in the Himalayas. Direct materials to the Pentagon, and And then to Delhi. There everything is so twisted! It is difficult for Kim to deliver a warhead to Iran, they are inspecting a light Korean ship, unless he can help with scientific specialists. So in Iran, for money, it is not the first time that experts are extinguished.

[DAQ]

The packs will sooner sell technologies to the Turks.

[fif21]

Maybe the time has come to retaliate against the nuclear facilities of the "chosen by God?"

[atalef]

Quote: fif21

Maybe the time has come to retaliate against the nuclear facilities of the "chosen by God?"

Oh well.

[Lech from Android.]

Mdaa I certainly understand the members of the forum, but why wave a club in a china shop ... You can't scare a Jew with that.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Mdaa I certainly understand the members of the forum, but why wave a club in a china shop ... You can't scare a Jew with that.

If the Jews were as brave as you think, they would not strike at the nuclear facilities of Iran, Syria, Iraq. But they are very, very afraid of retribution. For what they've done on BV. The cat smells whose meat it has eaten ...

[Ovsigovets]

and here they have nowhere to go ... until the very last moment they will slow down the Arab countries with such methods ... until someone really big and strong grows up there and Israel will not be too fussy for the next such action .. ..... and now what should they do ????

[atalef]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

If the Jews were as brave as you think, they would not strike at the nuclear facilities of Iran, Syria, Iraq.

something with logic is crap like you.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: atalef

something with logic is crap like you.

It's just difficult for you to understand it. Let me explain.
Israel is terrified of Iran until it cramps in the stomach, fears the development and strengthening of its economy and especially the development of its military-industrial complex. Therefore, he is doing everything to slow down this development. Hence the attacks on nuclear centers, dastardly killings of Iranian citizens just for being nuclear scientists, developers of missile systems and technologies. The list of Iranians "dangerous" for Israel can be continued, but I do not see the need for this.

[atalef]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Israel's stomach-cramps are afraid of Iran,

why is it colic?

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

afraid of the development and strengthening of its economy and especially the development of its military-industrial complex.

afraid and that's okay.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Therefore, he does everything to slow down this development.

logical. and?

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Hence the strikes on nuclear centers, the dastardly murders of Iranian citizens just for being nuclear scientists,

there is a war between us, Iran threatens to destroy us - nuclear scientists do not design medical isotopes

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

developers of rocket systems and technologies

I do not understand . what is the problem 7 I already said. what is wrong with your logic, these people are leading experts in the military-industrial complex. is their destruction absolutely logical?
what is the question then?

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

The list of Iranians "dangerous" for Israel can be continued, but I do not see the need for this.

What did you want to say?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: atalef

there is a war between us, Iran threatens to destroy us - nuclear scientists do not design medical isotopes

Shaw with Iran too? And when did Israel declare war on Iran? As far as I know Iran did not do this.

[tralflot1832]

A Jew can only be frightened by trying to force him to work on Saturday and Sunday, and not everyone!

[Krasnodar]

Friday (from noon) - Saturday. Sunday is a working day))

[tralflot1832]

I am not up to date, so if labor service is introduced from Friday to Monday, can we expect a "revolution" in Israel?

[Krasnodar]

Dade don't know what will happen - just such a law will not pass, most likely

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnodar

Dade don't know what will happen - just such a law will not pass, most likely

The Ultra-Orthodox will lay down with bones, but they won't be allowed to defile the shabes.

[bk0010]

Quote: tralflot1832

A Jew can only be frightened by trying to force him to work on Saturday and Sunday, and not everyone!

Moreover, what is especially cynical, it is free. The clean-up is called.

[tralflot1832]

It was noted for sure, in Antwerp I met Georgian Jews, they scolded everything Soviet, especially Subbotniks. How their poor were forced to work for free on Saturday, for them it was hard.

[Krasnodar]

So Trotsky practiced them for the "internationalization" of Orthodox Jews))

[atalef]

Quote: bk0010

Moreover, what is especially cynical, it is free. The clean-up is called.

Work on Shabbat is paid 200% from the first minute of work + day off.
When I have urgent work in the department on Shabbat, I have not seen those who refuse.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: fif21

Maybe the time has come to retaliate against the nuclear facilities of the "chosen by God?"

Let France do this. After all, it was she who helped Israel acquire nuclear weapons

[tralflot1832]

And who will apply, they officially have nothing. Could it be show-off?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: tralflot1832

And who will apply, they officially have nothing. Could it be show-off?

No, not show-off. And there is a vigorous head, and the delivery system too.

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

No, not show-off. And there is a vigorous head, and the delivery system too.

As the late Golda Meir said, "Firstly, we do not have it. And secondly, if necessary, we will apply it."

[tralflot1832]

Yes, even if Israel does start, it will blaze like that in the Middle East, it will not seem a little to it. Without the introduction of ground forces in Iran there will be no victory, but who will enter it? The Chinese?

[Free wind]

I think that Israel will survive, and at least we shouldn't quarrel with it. Well, or be friends with the Papuans. Because we live badly because of the damned Soros, Americans, Poles, and thanks to our great duck, we live well.

[Lech from Android.]

Well, the great Navalny is also no better, the choice is not great. The current opposition is completely incapable of doing something positive, everyone is proposing sanctions and bombing on Russian territory.

[Free wind]

What bombings, where and when?

[Lech from Android.]

Ask Kasparov ... This chess player sometimes confuses chess with bombs.

[Ovsigovets]

Israel is a good counterbalance to the Arabs, and fundamentalists always have someone to hate fiercely ... there is always a + in -

[Lech from Android.]

On this one can constantly press Israel.

[Revolver]

Quote: Free Wind

thanks to our great duck we live well.

You can be as funny as you want, but in my opinion, Putin is the best of all who ruled after Stalin's death. Although to Stalin and him as to China in the knee-elbow position.

[rotmistr60]

Four years without starting a new war and no matter where for the United States is a very long time. Moreover, the point is not even that Iran is like a bone in the throat, but also in its internal problems, from which attention can be turned to the next war. Well, and Israel, from the day of its formation, has been at war, then preparing for war, then fighting again. If a big war breaks out, then it will be on the conscience (what am I about?) Exclusively of Israel and the United States, which do not care about the reaction of the international community if only to resolve the issue with a country that is not tolerated at the genetic level in any way.

[domokl]

Quote: rotmistr60

From the day of its formation, Israel has been fighting, then preparing for war, then fighting again

The fact of the matter is that fate has put the Israelites in a difficult position. It is quite difficult to be a counterweight to the Arab world, while having a meager territory and, therefore, a limited mob resource. A big war, in the conditions of modern realities, may cost Israel many lives.
Therefore, today they are trying in every possible way to prevent the emergence of nuclear weapons in the region.
Probably, if they do not stop, and judging by the assassination of the main developer of Iran's missile systems, who for some reason is positioned as the main nuclear engineer, this is not happening yet, we will also have to intervene. Be that as it may, we also need Israel ...
Here is such a perdimonokol turned out

[Boris55]

Quote: domokl

The fact of the matter is that fate has put the Israelites in a difficult position.

Fate? Where does she live and what is her last name?

Old clip about worldly affairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSa-Dpg9pzw

[Revolver]

Quote: rotmistr60

Four years without starting a new war and no matter where for the United States is a very long time.

Biden will start a new one, so don't worry. True, Trump has filed with the Supreme Court, but the chances, alas, are slim.

Quote: rotmistr60

resolve the issue with a country that is not genetically transferred in any way

What are you speaking about? The Jews have no hatred of the Persians, either at the genetic or at any other level, and the Americans, in general, in the genetic sense, are a mixed bag. Under the Shah, both Israel and America were friends with Iran. So the problem is not in Iran, nor in its population, but exclusively in the Ayatollahs.

[Roman1970_1]

yesterday the media reported with reference to Fox News, which as usual cites unnamed sources in the intelligence community

What, I wanted to hear the names from the intelligence community.
Funny.

[Avior]

Given that Iran believes that the State of Israel should not exist in principle, Jewish concern about the appearance of nuclear weapons in Iran is somewhat understandable ...

... Iran is well aware that Israel will do everything so that no one in the Middle East has nuclear weapons.

Nobody is as enthusiastic about the appearance of nuclear weapons in the Middle East, where, it seems, everyone managed to fight everyone and continue as far as possible. An explosive place.

[Ovsigovets]

in your words about the presence there also of whom nito nuclear warheads are logical and understandable, But you need to understand that this is the attitude of Israel and its actions give rise to a burning desire to acquire them ... and in fact they will acquire them ...

[Avior]

Technically, there are a dozen other countries in the world that are technically capable of creating nuclear weapons, or even more.
I don't really want to live in a world where the question of its application is a matter of time.

[Ovsigovets]

here you need to understand ... the ability to technically create is not possible to create in fact)))))

[Avior]

If given the opportunity to some, it will be very difficult to stop others.
Therefore, they can turn a blind eye only under certain conditions.

[shahor]

Quote: Ovsigovets

But you need to understand that this is the attitude of Israel and its actions generate a burning desire to acquire one.

And you think about this. The country is tiny. In the narrowest place, near Tulkarm, the width is 20 km. What is this about? Depth of defense of a motorized rifle division? And what is this distance for modern artillery? Israel cannot afford not to succumb to provocations like the USSR did in 1941 - there is nowhere to retreat. Therefore, Israel will always be the first to strike when there is a threat to the country's security and it hurts as much as possible. Remember the 1973 Yom Kippur War. We decided to ignore the threat of an Arab attack from two fronts. Yes, we ended the war near Damascus and Cairo, but at what cost? Therefore, Israel will always shout - the aggressor! As far as Iran is concerned, Israel has never threatened this country or called for destruction. Under the Shah, they were generally friends. Only under the Ayatollahs Israel suddenly became an enemy - the Ayatollahs need the image of the enemy - without this, such regimes cannot exist. And further. Israel does not need war from the word at all. Regimes similar to the Ayatollahs, on the other hand, often resort to war as the last resort for their salvation. To deprive them of this opportunity is best for the entire region and for everyone in general.

[Ovsigovets]

you can talk as much as you like talk talk .... but we are discussing the topic under the news about the murder of an Iranian scientist, and as I understand it, the murdered man and his family. And on this, all your talks about slack and the fact that Israel is, in principle, a peaceful country ended with "zilch" ..... after such actions, all your beautiful words are a complete lie ..... according to the ancient laws "an eye for eye "now Iran is obliged to you to bang the officer. that he developed this operation together with his entire family.

[shahor]

Quote: Ovsigovets

.but we are discussing the topic under the news of the murder of an Iranian scientist, and as I understand it, the murdered man and his family.

Let's clarify together. Attempted murder of the Skripals. England qualifies it as an attempted terrorist attack with the use of chemical weapons and accuses Russia, specifically, two middle-handed businessmen who are on active service in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces. Well, you know all the details. RF considers that there is no evidence.
Iran. Well, as FARS (Iran's official agency) just reported, a physicist and a bodyguard were killed. The family did not suffer, you were deceived. Further. As it turned out, there were no perpetrators - no suicide bomber or gunmen. The cortege consisted of 3 cars - 2 security vehicles and an armored car with a physicist.
The fire was opened from a machine gun installed in the back of a Nissan pickup truck standing on the side of the road. Fire opening distance - 150 meters. The physicist heard extraneous noise - apparently, bullets hitting the armor - stopped the car and went out to see what was the matter. And - got a queue. A bodyguard from the second car tried to cover him. It's unfortunate. As it turned out, the fire control was carried out remotely. At the end of the shooting, the pickup exploded. There is no specifics yet. There is also no evidence of any involvement. So let's not fantasize like highley like. Let's wait.

[Ovsigovets]

what seriously banged so ??? ahahahahahahahahaha ... I'm going to pee ... my mouth almost broke from my lyba

[shahor]

Quote: Ovsigovets

I’ll go pee .... almost broke my mouth from lyba

The main thing is to have time to run ... And it will turn out like last time. There will be no time for a smile and a torn mouth.

[Ovsigovets]

well, share how it was last time ???? even became interested

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

But you need to understand that this is the attitude of Israel and its actions generate a burning desire to acquire them

strange. more and more Arab countries conclude diplomatic agreements with us. but most of all for some reason Iran is fuming - it does not have a common border with us. located 2000 km away from us and not a country in the Middle East.

[Ovsigovets]

a man and his family were killed there)))) who gave you such a right to kill at will? here is the one who gave you this right gave another right to Iran ..... we live like that

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

here is the one who gave you such a right gave you another right

as my boss (already retired) said when one came to him to complain. that he has no right to lead the shopping mall, the order for his appointment has not yet been signed. to which he replied
- they don't give the rights, they take the rights.
we do not need to ask anyone for them, we take them ourselves.

[Ovsigovets]

I agree .... the right of the strong is the first priority ..... but then complaints about the Holocaust are not entirely clear ... by the right of the strong to the weak .... in short, love the animal conditions of the game - then don't whine about human frames and other games of sick people

[Ovsigovets]

by the way, your situation is a bit similar to ours)))) "chiriy" grows near us with the desire to acquire nuclear harness))))) and I feel I will have to beat them ....

[lucul]

Considering that Iran believes that the State of Israel should not exist in principle,

But I think that it should, with one condition - to gather there as many Jews as possible from the countries of the former USSR.
We will even support them with a military alliance against anyone - the main thing is that we have fewer of them, otherwise they will soon overtake the Russians in numbers.

[DED_peer_DED]

But I think that it should, with one condition - to gather there as many Jews as possible from the countries of the former USSR.

They will not go there. There the place is already packed and everyone who is needed there is already in place. They hold the territory for future Jewish "miracles". This is enough and there is no place for excess. So ... "you can't wait ...".

[Ovsigovets]

listen)))) friends told me how they have in Israel and under what conditions the "mortgage" is given)))) I still report to you that "a Jew who throws a Jew" is not a miracle))))

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: bobwings

I am closely following the situation in Iran, including Russian-speaking bloggers from there. In recent years, it has become more and more difficult for the regime to restrain the revolutionary situation in the country; the regime also gives weakness as a result of relaxation in religious restrictions. The dress code is no longer followed closely, openly cosmopolitan, western-looking cafes and restaurants open, people drink and have fun. And all the time, time after time, the country is shaken by serious unrest and unrest. I think that over time, the regime will collapse.

Islam, in almost all countries, goes, so to speak, to some indulgences, and not only in Iran or Saudi Arabia ... well, that is, you do not live in Iran and in fact you don’t know a damn about it. Inside the country, there can be any kind of political troubles and showdowns, BUT they are inside the country and an internal affair .... As a vivid example to you, Pashinyan - he was good to everyone, exactly until the moment of proser from Azerbaijan. The Iranians may have claims against each other, BUT claims against Israel in general and the Jews in particular, they ALL greatly prevail over internal claims ... and if a showdown with Israel begins, the Ayatollahs will receive more support than they will lose

[atalef]

Quote: Ovsigovets

... As a vivid example to you Pashinyan - he was good to everyone

us? we didn't even have Armenian prowess

Quote: Ovsigovets

exactly until the moment of proser from Azerbaijan.

we are one of the main suppliers of arms to Azerbaijan and we have a wonderful relationship

Quote: Ovsigovets

The Iranians may have claims against each other, BUT claims against Israel in general and the Jews in particular, they ALL significantly prevail over internal claims

who ? The Iranians have 7 And what do they have (overall 0 against the Arab residents of Israel, of which 27%?

Quote: Ovsigovets

and if a showdown with Israel begins, the ayatollahs will receive more support than they will lose

from whom ?
Losers, for the Arabs Iran is many times greater enemy than Israel.
On to the same to be so out of topic and at the same time trying to prove something.

[Ovsigovets]

we read inattentively ... it was about Iran and only about Iran, no one else ... Iran and its citizens

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

After the assassination of an Iranian scientist, I really want Iran to make a nuclear bomb and take revenge on Israel and the United States.

[tralflot1832]

So their centrifuges are spinning or did they stop them? By the way, I tried to understand how it works, I just realized that it is spinning at a breakneck speed, the Amerlv don't have this, from the word absolutely. And also they put a washing machine and not one for them.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I don’t know what and how it turns to them, but the elimination of civilians in peacetime is meanness and the United States and Israel must answer for it. Otherwise, they will completely lose their fear.

Today the USA and Israel have eliminated a scientist in Iran, and tomorrow the president in Russia or another country where they don't like something ?!

This should be severely punished.

Our representatives at the UN need to ring all bells to condemn such a crime at the international level.

And Iran now has the full right to smash all American bases on the territory of third countries to smithereens in the range of their missiles.

[Revolver]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

After the assassination of an Iranian scientist, I really want Iran to make a nuclear bomb and take revenge on Israel and the United States.

This will end with the fulfillment of Russia's long-standing dream of leaving the Caspian Sea for the Indian Ocean, because in place of Iran there will be a strait right up to the Persian Gulf. True, a little radioactive.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Strongly doubt.

[tralflot1832]

Are you a preponderant of nuclear war in one isolated region? I doubt it will work now.

[Ovsigovets]

yes, we have already seen how North Korea won)))))

[Revolver]

Kim the First did not have a vigorous bomb, from the word "absolutely". Again, behind his back were millions of Chinese "volunteers" who were simply driven in droves on machine guns until they overheated. And behind them was the titanic figure of Stalin.
The Ayatollahs MUST NOT HAVE a bomb, also from the word "absolutely", and they are trying to get one. China can help them with technology, but it will not intervene directly with troops, and even if it does, then don't spoil it at all. The Russian Federation, with all due respect, does not have the weight of the USSR, and to Putin before Stalin as before China in a well-known position, and Iran is not a vassal state for the Russian Federation, which the DPRK was for the USSR, so Lavrov will come out with a strong condemnation, and that will end.
At the moment when the Ayatollahs test the bomb, or even use it, no matter in Israel or the American base in neighboring Arab countries, a response will fly to Iran. Moreover, if you look at past precedents, neither America, much less Israel, did not bother with the proportionality of the answer. Even if only Israel sends a response, there will be no big cities in Iran. And if America, then the strait from the Caspian Sea to the Persian Gulf is quite real.

[Ovsigovets]

and if the ayatollahs have a bomb not one but a dozen, then we will expand the waters of the strait by the territory of Israel ????

[atalef]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

After the murder of the Iranian scientist, I really want

[Connor MacLeod]

And let them fight! The main thing is not to help the Persians so that the Chinese fit in for them ...

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Ovsigovets

Gentlemen, Jews, don't you think that at a certain moment, a lot will fly to you?!?

will arrive of course and ... now what?
Afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest.

argument

[501 Legion]

By this logic, Muslim countries in the region can boldly strike Israel and say, well, we are against our enemies having a strong army and a nuclear arsenal.

[Krasnodar]

They beat him, and from 1948 to 1973, constantly, and from 1967 with the support of the USSR.

[Azamat Ramazanov]

Jews stir up water

[Shahno]

Oooh, the washing of the bones started again. Let it be Wed .., ugh, you're a battle.

[aszzz888]

The existence of the State of Israel will be called into question... Blow to blow is unacceptable for Israel. Simply because the territories of states are incommensurable in area.

A very powerful argument not in favor of Israel. Would they, Jews, think about it more often, or amuse themselves that the Merikathoses will have time to intercede? As in the good old joke "But here in America, but here in America .... Yes, there is no longer your America!"

[bk0010]

Quote: aszzz888

A very powerful argument not in favor of Israel.

Not an argument: I was in that Israel, we drove from the border to Jerusalem all night (this is approximately in the middle of the country), the diameter of more or less serious destruction from a warhead is 1 Mt (such powerful ones are no longer doing) - 10 km, we are 10 Kilometers were covered in 5 minutes, so it is useless to compare areas even for Israel, the number of targets is critical.

[Shahno]

Quote: Krasnodar

There she writes about completely everyday situations - renting a new apartment in Tehran, communicating with her father-in-law and mother-in-law, the current economic situation, currency exchange (she works on the Internet), prices, her problems of learning the language, etc. Well, he exposes pictures with views of Iran - beautiful, of course
kristina_bo
Recommend. Just understand "what the people breathe"

It is necessary to read. You need to know your friends, as it were, from the inside ...

[Shahno]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

And when the Jews were expelled from Spain, England, Poland, etc., who sowed the wind?
I do not believe that hostility towards Jews grew out of nowhere.
But I don't need to sing songs about the exclusivity of Jews.

What does exclusivity have to do with it? It's just that the rulers had the opportunity, under a plausible pretext, to expropriate not the poorest group of the population. In the treasury, you know, there is always little money, but there is always a pretext - they crucified such different kinds of Christ and finally. From Germany, too, since 1933, at first they tried to squeeze out the Jews, and arianize their businesses and property. But for some reason the Jews were in no hurry to sell their belongings for a pittance and leave, and waited for the "final solution of the Jewish question" with extermination camps and gas chambers.
And note, the countries abandoned by the Jews, from the Old Testament Egypt to the Third Reich, soon afterwards underwent considerable upheavals and lost their status as great powers.

Yes, such coincidences have always surprised me too ... Some kind of mysticism.

[Revolver]

Quote: Shahno

Yes, such coincidences have always surprised me too ... Some kind of mysticism.

And if you also remember that Abram entered into a covenant on behalf of all his descendants with the One from whom Mary subsequently conceived Jesus, and it was at that moment that Abram's descendants received the elect ...

[Connor MacLeod]

Well, how much?

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Martian

Israel and the Jews are such disgusting !!! How much grief they brought to Russia.

And why bear with it, it is high time to deal with this problem.

[tralflot1832]

Comrades Jews, you all know about the Iranian nuclear program. Who supplied Iran with the technology to enrich Uranium with the help of centrifuges. The Iranians themselves could not have thought of this before. The United States itself ends up at the level of demonstration projects. The technology is possessed by Russia, France and another German-English Dutch The firm (50% owned by the French). Looks like France poked you. Russian TVEL disappears if it was involved, even if they put a cunning bolt on Iran, then they would shout about it at every corner. Yes, they killed the professor, but he still has students and they the case will be completed.

[Shahno]

Quote: Martian

Israel and the Jews are such disgusting !!! How much grief they brought to Russia.

Please do not generalize ...

[Operator]

There are two nuclear mines in Israel, laid by the Israelis themselves - the weapons-grade nuclear reactor at Dimona with an explosive power of several megatons of TNT, and the research nuclear reactor in the Tel Aviv suburb of Nagal Sorek with an explosive power of several hundred kilotons of TE.

Iran's conventional missile strike against these two targets, followed by a thermal explosion of reactors, is guaranteed to create a zone of continuous radioactive contamination (similar to the Chernobol zone) throughout Israel.

Under favorable circumstances, a self-sustaining chain reaction of fission products of uranium fuel with ground-based explosions with a yield of up to several megatons of fuel cells will arise in the reactors. The zone of radioactive contamination will expand to Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

At the moment, Iran has dozens of medium-range ballistic missiles (launched from Iran) and hundreds of short-range missiles (launched from Syria), the number of which is enough to break through the Israeli missile defense system and destroy Israeli nuclear reactors.

After that, the long-awaited peace will come in the Middle East for the first time in 75 years. Therefore, one should only welcome the Israeli aggression against Iran.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Operator

Iran's conventional missile strike against these two targets, followed by a thermal explosion of reactors, is guaranteed to create a zone of continuous radioactive contamination (similar to the Chernobol zone) throughout Israel.

At the same time, Israel will remain silent and calmly puff through the hole, since it does not know anything about Iranian reactors or Iranian nuclear power plants.

[Ovsigovets]

the cemetery is always quiet and peaceful

[flicker]

Somehow, the interest in Birobidzhan has grown imperceptibly

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: flicker

Somehow, the interest in Birobidzhan has grown imperceptibly

The great neohazar empire from Jordan to Bira is a thousand-year Jewish dream.

[flicker]

What is the dream of the Jews?

[Krasnodar]

That in all tax authorities it was impossible to employ people with an education above three grades of primary school.

[flicker]

It seems that Griboyedov had to agree with you.

[sevtrash]

Israel is such a "versatile" state. On the one hand, it is quite successful in economic terms, industrial, supplier of weapons, equipment, software, etc. Not without subsidies to the defense industry from the United States. The standard of living is excellent, especially in terms of medicine. On the other hand, a nationalist state pursuing an aggressive policy of its defense is such an oxymoron. The territories allocated by the UN in 47 have grown heavily captured and controlled. Since 1947, the Arab death toll appears to have been much higher than the Jewish death toll. Moreover, Israel is not shy about kidnapping / killing unwanted people around the world. You cannot say that they are all angels (there were also terrorists), but, for example, killing scientists who work for the defense of their state is savagery and state terrorism. Yes, perhaps this is an effective defense of the type - "no man - no problem" (a phrase that Rybakov - Aronov attributed to Stalin), but, to put it mildly, does not cause sympathy. Jews constantly exploit the idea of ​​being chosen by God on the one hand and the idea of ​​sacrifice (the Holocaust) on the other, but for a long time they have not been victims, rather the opposite.
But we must not forget that Israel is getting closer to Russia than the Arab countries. Socio-cultural values ​​are somehow close, although the degree of nationalism and the influence of religion did not stand close.
But strange as it may seem, the USSR / Russia and Israel are more often on opposite sides of the barricades, although not directly. Actually, nothing strange, Israel is a loyal vassal and conductor of the US policy in the Middle East, and the US is a long-time "friend" of the USSR / Russia

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: sevtrash

but does not cause sympathy, to put it mildly.

Why Israel is your sympathy?

[Antifreeze]

it remains only to wait for the development of events

This is what we will do. You can also urge the parties to restrain.

[COLORADO73]

What is this nonsense? Who wrote this article? The United States has no time for Iran, the Pentagon has been virtually beheaded, the control system has been destroyed! America is no longer capable of delivering any blows to its enemies! The transfer of B52 bombers is more of a gesture of despair, but BlackLivesMatter activists will not go there to fight!

[COLORADO73]

The United States is now in a deplorable state to take any measures against Iran!
The Pentagon has collapsed, so a forceful solution to the issue immediately disappears! Gone are the days when America and NATO conducted large-scale military operations: Desert Storm 1991, bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, and then interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria! Farewell to the Battle Pentagon!

[Petr Vladimirovich]

Yes, graters there are nowhere more fun. Israeli border guards do not like Arab visas in our passports, I am not talking about Iranian ones at all. Iranian customs officers in the ports of Anzeli and Noushar on the CASPIAN Sea! require a certificate from the captain that the ship did not call in Israeli ports !!!
All this is very exotic (c) Gee-gee ...

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Petr Vladimirovich

Iranian customs officers in the ports of Anzeli and Noushar on the CASPIAN Sea! require a certificate from the captain that the ship has not entered Israeli ports !!!

Didn't you know about the existence of the "Haifa-Baku" underground sea tunnel?

[Petr Vladimirovich]

Checked it out, liked it ...)))

[Imperial Technocrat]

A blow to Iran in the next 1-3 months is almost inevitable. And, most likely, nuclear, because the United States and Israel have no strength for a conventional victory over Iran

[Shahno]

Quote: Ovsigovets

again referring to my friends from Israel ... here's a story from their relationship .... she is Tajik, he is "khokhlomoskal" ..... she is civilized, she studied under the USSR, two higher and not bought for a sheep, from her their business ...... they have a picnic on the beach .... he wandered along the coastline, wet his feet up to the knee, returned to the table. She takes a towel and wipes his feet ..... he is a HUSBAND ..... do you feel the difference in mentality ... she was raised like that since childhood

Not. It's on the Ashdod beach, for sure. Only here can Uzbeks and Ukrainians become a Jewish couple.
Ps. Although I often restrain myself so as not to meet some mulatto. Maybe not...

[Old26]

Quote: Ovsigovets

and I wrote not "pierce", but prokinet ..... the point is that Israel will receive a massive missile strike .... very massive

Will not arrive. The disadvantage of Iran's missile forces, like the DPRK, is that, having riveted a large number of missiles, they have a fairly limited number of launchers. The ratio is approximately 1 in 10-15. That is, Iran has, for example, 400 missiles of a certain type and only, for example, 36-40 launchers. Iran has a LARGE number of missiles, but these missiles have a range of about 500-8 km. They will be able to hit targets in Iraq or Syria. In Israel, it is practically impossible. And there are not so many of those that can hit targets in Israel. This is when it comes to ballistic. It's about the same with the winged ones. There are a lot of missiles with a range of 100-500 km (the Saudis can be hammered with them), but with a range of 1000-1200 km, there are but a limited number, so the Iranians may not be able to achieve a massive strike ...

Quote: Ovsigovets

for very many centuries you and your country have not been ... 6 times it can work out ... and then you only run the EAO))))

Dear Roman! It seems that you live in some other world. If Israel could not be broken by the Arabs, piling on several countries at once, while taking into account the massive support of the USSR, then what kind of war, tragic for Israel, can we talk about. Israel's neighbors, with the possible exception of Syria, are not at war with Israel. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel. The Saudis and monarchies of the Gulf, if they do not have an agreement, are not enemies of Israel. they do not claim that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth, as the Persians have said (and repeatedly). And no one will supply these countries with weapons for free, as it was before ...

Quote: Doccor18

Where has Iran's strength increased over the past 10 years? Does it have brigades of new long-range air defense systems or regiments of the latest fighters?
And how have the capabilities of the US and Israeli air forces decreased? Fighters of the 5th generation began to be massively purchased.
So what has changed in the alignment of forces?

Where has Iran's strength increased? In statements, mostly. In the development of technologies that will make it possible to bend such neighbors as Saudi Arabia. But to play with the same Israel, not to mention the United States, is a "gut". There are a large number of new air defense systems, but they are either medium (short) range, or not combined into a single system, such as, for example, in the USSR or now in Russia. This can be seen even in such details as the "tearing" of 4 S-300 divisions at 3 targets. And the fact that there are two armies in Iran - the army and the IRGC, and the second is better equipped than the conventional army, suggests that they will not have a single center, as they do not now. Made several brigades "Bravara-373" which they position almost as equal to the S-400, but she has not yet shown itself, even in the same Syria. As the Jews were beating at the places where the pro-Iranian forces were concentrated, they beat them.

Aviation is laughter through tears. The main fleet consists of cars from the late 70s and early 80s. The exception is several dozen Soviet-built Iraqi aircraft that flew to Iran. Moreover, they have not gone through modernization. Fleet - three boats of the "Varshavyanka" type, not modernized. the rest are mini-boats intended for saboteurs, but not in any way against fighting the real fleet
Hundreds of boats with anti-ship missiles with a firing range of 10-15 km? What can they do if the hunt begins from the sky for them? The only bargaining chip is cruise missiles on trucks disguised as civilians. But this is before the first shot. They, trucks, will begin to be destroyed after the first missile salvo from them at the ships. And they will not look, whether it is a civilian or a disguised launcher. Iran and the United States have too different "weights". And after the Americans take out the air defense, the beating of the Iranian Armed Forces will begin ...

Quote: Doccor18

The embargo is over. So Iran still needs time to take advantage of this. So Iran has no time for calm now ...

Moreover, time is needed, calculated in years. The financial system is breathing, if not on the side, then very close to this. It can be simple to buy something. But you still need to teach. And they need to buy so much that it will take not just years, but decades to bring the army to the level of at least the Shah's (and then it was a strong army) ...

Quote: Pessimist22

Iran needs to buy a nuclear charge from North Korea and bang at the Jews.

And then collectively commit "hara-kiri", although this is not an Iranian option? What will they do with Iran after that, do you think? Indeed, despite the fact that Israel claims that it does not have nuclear weapons, it still has a place to be. How many in response to fly to Iran ???

Quote: fif21

Maybe the time has come to retaliate against the nuclear facilities of the "chosen by God?"

Who will apply? Personally, or would you like someone else to do it instead of you, and you sat on the sidelines ????

Quote: tralflot1832

So their centrifuges are spinning or did they stop them? By the way, I tried to understand how it works, I just realized that it is spinning at a breakneck speed, the Amerlv don't have this, from the word absolutely. And also they put a washing machine and not one for them.

The Americans also have them. Only in very small quantities. EMNIP - 1 cascade, about 100 pieces. But they are longer than ours and Iranian ones. Again EMNIP is about 10 meters. The thing is that the Americans, having started the first, took the easier path at that time. used not centrifuge, but gas diffusion method. Plus, unlike centrifugal - simple, minus - more energy-intensive

Are spinning. The 2015 agreement did not include such a position as a complete stop of centrifuge production. There were only restrictions on the type and number of centrifuges (and, accordingly, restrictions on the enrichment and amount of uranium). The rest (over the permitted amount) were dismantled

Quote: tralflot1832

Comrades Jews, you all know about the Iranian nuclear program. Who supplied Iran with the technology to enrich Uranium with the help of centrifuges. The Iranians themselves could not have thought of this before. The United States itself ends up at the level of demonstration projects. The technology is possessed by Russia, France and another German-English Dutch The firm (50% owned by the French). Looks like France poked you. Russian TVEL disappears if it was involved, even if they put a cunning bolt on Iran, then they would shout about it at every corner. Yes, they killed the professor, but he still has students and they the case will be completed.

I'm not a Jew, but I'll try to answer. In fact, Iran received the first centrifuge illegally through the so-called. "Khan's underground network". There was (and maybe still is) a Pakistani physicist, as the father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb is called. Then he was still working for a European consortium and through him, many nuclear technologies flowed to other countries. So the first type of Iranian IR-1 centrifuges appeared precisely because of this source. They began to produce themselves. Now, EMNIP they have at the outlet of the IR-9 centrifuges, more efficient than the first version.
If we talk about the production of plutonium, albeit in very small quantities, then such a reactor was supplied to the Shah's Iran in the early 70s. He worked on highly enriched uranium. But then it was redesigned for uranium with an EMNIP enrichment of 5 or 6%
Of course, the students will bring it, there are no questions. But in any case, the program will slow down, because the "engine" of this program is dead, and no one knows what and how he thought to do

[Ovsigovets]

80 years ago Israel was not even in the project, BUT it appeared ... ... what Israel does today may not work tomorrow. The agreements were concluded and violated the entire history of their conclusion. In short, you need to prepare for the worst - you won't have to get discouraged

[Shahno]

[quote = shahor] [quote = tralflot1832] You were only according to the Biblical tale, but for money you can write anything. Constantly find something and invent something. [/ quote]
Well, you would not boast of your ignorance ... Well, you don't know the story, it's okay. But putting it on display is a shame, my dear. [/ Quote
Okay to you. Well, have pity on the guys already. They are drowning for the great Svyatoslav. Well, they do not perceive others in any way. Germans or ..

[Sergey Sfiedu]

"Israel is preparing for a war with Iran, which does not want to fight." Doesn't want to yet. But in the future, he really wants to. In the meantime, he wants to arrange a cheerful life for Israel with the hands of fanatics, while remaining as if to do with it. Jews are extremely pragmatic people, and if they say that the Persians are their main enemies, there is no doubt that the Persians are their main enemies.

[George Davydov]

THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF THE IDEOLOGY OF THE LIBERAL-GLOBALIST. "The US government, in turn, understood that it was easier to defeat the Indians by making them economically dependent on their products, and for this it was necessary to deprive them of their food supply." Therefore, in relation to all other aborigines of the Earth, they are also treated. Therefore, the economy, and politics, and education, etc. of the Soviet People, the Winner of the Brown Plague, are dangerous for the bandits, and therefore are destroyed both materially and spiritually. It's time to understand and use this against a common enemy for all mankind!



The answer to the question: "And I'll start with something that I still don't quite understand, namely ... why do Christians dislike native believers so much?" it is necessary to read into the worldview of adherents of both faiths. For native believers, faith is determined by the Motherland, which includes a territory with nature and resources, society in its entirety and relations between people on the basis of kindness, love, etc. That is why they are all sons of God, sons of ancestors and keepers of their heritage, which is based on spiritual values. But for the Jews it is different - here the followers of the faith are slaves, albeit of God. At the same time, the very service to God, which no one has seen, does not know, etc., is built according to such a hierarchy in which the subordinates do not know and do not understand the higher ones, who explain everything to them as they were allowed to understand and convey to the lower ones. At the same time, if for Rodnovers the main service to God is the love and goodness of all for all, then for the Jews it is different. Here, the basis of faith is material values, which raise not only the status of the possessor, his position in society, etc., but also the level, quality, etc. of life. Therefore, for them God is a golden calf, for the sake of serving which and receiving gesheft all means are good. And since, if you read their books, then the basis for this is the appropriation of material values ​​created by others. Therefore, the main means for this are lies, fraud, etc. And if you read their books, see how they, coming to others, pretend to be poor and orphaned, and then become rich and immoral, an example of which is the USSR and Russia, then this only indicates that their god is the devil, and therefore they hate not only different faiths, but also everyone else, calling them goyim and seeing them as their future slaves. This is probably the way to answer this question. What do you think?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Georgy Davydov

What do you think?

Read the Bible, Old Testament.
Maybe everything will be in your place.

[7,62x54]

Rather, this ulcer of the Middle East would be removed.

[Old26]

Quote: Ovsigovets

80 years ago Israel was not even in the project, BUT it appeared ... ... what Israel does today may not work tomorrow. The agreements were concluded and violated the entire history of their conclusion. In short, you need to prepare for the worst - you won't have to get discouraged

An interesting look at the country. What happens now may not work tomorrow? Speak in riddles. In general, the country is developing from simple to more complex. They did not have such failures as we did in the 90s. Having an excellent military-industrial complex, a small but professional and motivated army, a fairly close-knit people (living under the threat of war for more than 70 years, what should happen is that something will not work out for them. ”This was finally understood by their neighbors and concluded peace treaties with them, because they realized that military efforts cannot break Israel.
So I think we won't have to be disappointed. If Iran strikes Israel first, it will be the trigger. She will become an AGGRESSOR. And the aggressor is usually punished

[Ovsigovets]

no, there is another option ... may work for others

[Ovsigovets]

71 comments)))) this is 72 .... it is necessary to tie))))

[Gunther]

Quote: atalef

....... The Pope is apparently d.i.i.l. --- believe in such crap
By the way, you should study what you believe in and when you decided that my mother carried it from the holy spirit. Here the Armenians (and they accepted Christianity early) believe. that Yeshua was born an ordinary person (from dad and mom) and only after being resurrected he became God.
They were closer to the real history for almost 800 years. they know the truth.
Want to talk more --- about the story of birth?
kukold

Learn the mathematics part, the Armenians are Monophisites, this heresy was condemned at the Chalcedon Council))))

But the bitter sarcasm is understandable, the Jews began to define Jewishness by their mothers not from a good life - the father could be a "lawyer", a Roman legionnaire from Dacia or Ethiopian)))
Such a nation as "Jews" does not exist in nature, unlike the same Semitic Arabs, where the genotype is transmitted from the father, Klyosov describes this in detail, so the concept of "Jew" makes sense only in conjunction with Judaism.

[high]

Israel prepares for war with Iran, which does not want to fight
That's right, Iran seeks to destroy Israel from Syrian territory.
If you believe the foreign media, Iran is well aware, not far from it, there are 2 Israeli submarines with nuclear warheads, which, when Iran attacks Israel, will turn Iran into a desert ....

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

We would sell a couple of warheads to the Iranians and let them fight like a kid there)

[KarabasBarabas]

Russia started a war with Ukraine, if only
ominously NATO (which does not threaten anyone with total destruction) has not approached its borders. And then it turns out that the Israeli leadership should, after another Iranian threat, destroy the "Zionist entity" by looking at each other and saying, "no, they are joking, everything is fine, you shouldn't worry"

[Svoy_tovarish]

Why are the aggressive and harsh measures taken by Israel in order to prevent the strengthening of the military potential of states such as Syria, Iran, Iraq, etc., so painfully perceived? Why are they considered unfounded? Was it not the Iranian leader who stated that the destruction of Israel as a state, as a country, is the main goal for them and they will make every possible effort for this? Israel is a small territory with a small population surrounded by enemies from the first days of its creation. Military actions of Israel, in my opinion, are justified for Israel itself and are effective, with which no one can argue. Otherwise, how does he still exist, conduct his principled policy and fight back?