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The Ukrainian Armed Forces assessed the chances of a forceful return of Donbass to Ukraine

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The Ukrainian Armed Forces assessed the chances of a forceful return of Donbass to Ukraine

The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), General Ruslan Khomchak, assessed the chances of returning Donbass to the country by military means and admitted that he did not see any prospects for this decision. The statement of the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is quoted by the Ukrainian media.


According to Khomchak, there is no purely military solution to return Donbas to Ukraine, and there are several reasons for this.

I want everyone to understand: I do not see a purely military solution to the issue in Donbass, and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine also

- he said.

According to the general, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in the territory of Donbass, Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of military operations on the territory of densely populated areas, which could lead to numerous losses among the civilian population.

(...) they will be calculated in three-, four-digit numbers for advancing 3-5 km inland

- declared Homchak.

In addition, the Ukrainian army will suffer heavy losses, especially since not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine." Therefore, there will be "shots in the back", and all movements of the Ukrainian troops will "merge to the other side." Also, according to the general, there is a risk of Russian interference in the conflict.

Earlier it was reported that Kiev again began to pull military equipment to the area of ​​the contact line. It has been suggested that the Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.
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  1. Mitroha
    Mitroha 27 November 2020 08: 30
    +9
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

    Hopeless and suicidal
    1. Temples
      Temples 27 November 2020 08: 40
      +5
      Quote: Mitroha
      The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

      Only the parties to the conflict have experience.
      Ukrainians did not fight there.
      Armenians and Azerbaijanis will not go to war in Donetsk.

      The Ukrainian Armed Forces can apply the experience of the Ilovaisk boiler.

      The General understands that even the residents of Ukraine itself do not support "Ukraine". Afraid of being shot in the back.
      Means not a fool.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 27 November 2020 08: 51
        +9
        I think that the general will not be in office for long ... The Nazis will devour.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 27 November 2020 10: 34
          +8
          The fact is that it was not onir that surrounded us, but we were cooking in 7 boilers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And the Ukrainian Armed Forces shouted "Save, help!", And then signed Minsk after the Debaltsevo boiler. Therefore, Zelensky's scarecrows or the general's reasoning worries us very little in the DPR.
          1. krot
            krot 27 November 2020 11: 50
            +1
            Also, according to the general, there is a risk of Russian interference in the conflict.

            This is the only thing that stops and sobering up the Sumerians!
            1. Andrei Gurov
              Andrei Gurov 27 November 2020 15: 35
              +1
              They should not be afraid of Russian intervention, every self-respecting citizen is convinced that the mighty Armed Forces have been victoriously fighting Russia for seven years.
      2. Rostov Papa
        Rostov Papa 27 November 2020 09: 01
        +4
        This refers to the experience of using drones in Karabakh. Another mriya, one drone is fighting, another is putting dumplings in his mouth
      3. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 09: 03
        +1
        Quote: Temples
        experience of the Ilovaisk boiler.


        So exactly Khomchak seems to have a good experience of escaping from the boiler
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 November 2020 09: 35
      +2
      Quote: Mitroha
      The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

      Hopeless and suicidal


      If, according to the experience of Nagorno-Karabakh, this means together with the Turks and their allies, mercenary terrorists.
    3. skif8013
      skif8013 27 November 2020 09: 49
      +1
      Quote: Mitroha
      The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

      Hopeless and suicidal

      And they will get the experience of Georgia, only this time you have to go to the capital, and not stop half way.
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 27 November 2020 10: 12
        +3
        In addition, the Ukrainian army will suffer heavy losses, especially since not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine." Therefore, there will be "shots in the back", and all movements of the Ukrainian troops will "merge to the other side." Also, according to the general, there is a risk of Russian interference in the conflict.


        How sad everything is for Ukraine crying ... In fact, contrary to all the statements, it turns out that they are not favored in the Donbass, even in the territories occupied by them, not to mention the DPR and LPR.

        Woe to shame for such a country, and such a "people liberator" ...

        PS - For those who are indignant "equating all people"to the clan of murderers and marauders, let me remind you that in Ukraine it is still relevant, and the slogan is actively circulated in various forms - "The people and the army are one".
        That is, the local leaders smeared the entire people, the entire population ...
  2. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 27 November 2020 08: 37
    +3
    The general has sober thoughts. Probably the vodka is running out in Ukraine. what
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 27 November 2020 08: 39
      +3
      He just understands who will be responsible for the consequences. And this is definitely not Zelenets.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 27 November 2020 08: 42
        0
        Of course, it is not Zeleny who will not go under the bullets, he will not risk his skin.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 27 November 2020 08: 44
          0
          His business is to drive with his hands, and to play the piano with one finger.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 November 2020 09: 41
      -2
      Quote: bessmertniy
      The general has sober thoughts. Probably the vodka is running out in Ukraine.

      Will appear if you look closely at his phrase on the territory of Donbass Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law , and then he realizes that no one will pardon him for this, and he is guaranteed a court in The Hague, the example of the former President of Kosovo, Hashim Thaci.
      1. Grits
        Grits 27 November 2020 10: 18
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        and then he realizes that no one will have mercy on him for this

        And he also understands that if suddenly they are interrogated and anger uncle Putin, he will be mixed with his own shit and the wreckage of his own headquarters Iskander or Caliber
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 November 2020 08: 39
    +1
    Let them try, a terrible end is better than an endless horror. Delaying the process will cost more and more for both parties.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 27 November 2020 12: 46
      -1
      Will you personally fight? Why else would there be calls for genocide and massacres?
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 27 November 2020 13: 47
        0
        I understand perfectly well that there is nothing good about it. But, on the other hand, do you want to leave it to your grandchildren-great-grandchildren. And about the genocide, you turned it down, it is now the Banderlogists are slowly conducting genocide in the Donbass. 1-2 people a day, it seems especially imperceptible, but for a year there is no village.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 27 November 2020 15: 37
          -3
          No, because people are fleeing the war, obtaining Russian citizenship.
          I explain on the fingers, people are leaving, the territory is liberated, then only it is possible to conduct hostilities without losses among the civilians.
          And if Ukrainian troops are shelling civilians who have Russian citizenship, then this is a reason to arrange a couple of more boilers for the Sumerians and take the territory. And they know it.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 27 November 2020 15: 41
            0
            Let's wait and see how it turns out.
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 27 November 2020 15: 42
              0
              Of course we'll see, the victory will be ours soldier
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 27 November 2020 16: 17
                0
                I would live to see this holiday. hi
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 27 November 2020 16: 26
                  -1
                  We are immortals, we will live)) hi
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 27 November 2020 08: 40
    0
    Normal Western policy, especially learning from the Ukrainian elite, has someone. Under the cries of terror of the local authorities and the oppression of the rights of the people, bombing peaceful cities, a normal practice for NATO
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 November 2020 11: 38
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      Normal Western policy, especially learning from the Ukrainian elite, has someone.

      So if you were learning good things, you learn only bad things.
  5. cniza
    cniza 27 November 2020 08: 41
    +4
    In addition, the Ukrainian army will suffer heavy losses, especially since not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine."


    What "secrets" does this general reveal ...
  6. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 27 November 2020 08: 44
    -2
    Earlier it was reported that Kiev again began to pull military equipment to the area of ​​the contact line.

    Judging by the notes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine constantly pulls the equipment, then pulls it off. It resembles coital frictions, or rather, self-gratification. In order to maintain peace of mind, it is necessary at least with some frequency to technique back and forth, and then smoke.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 27 November 2020 10: 14
      -7
      Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
      Earlier it was reported that Kiev again began to pull military equipment to the area of ​​the contact line.

      Judging by the notes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine constantly pulls the equipment, then pulls it off. It resembles coital frictions, or rather, self-gratification. In order to maintain peace of mind, it is necessary at least with some frequency to technique back and forth, and then smoke.

      So this is judging by the statements of the authors of the VO. For 7 years of reading the site, I became convinced that these statements have little to do with reality.
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 27 November 2020 10: 41
        +2
        Quote: Normal ok
        So this is judging by the statements of the authors of the VO. For 7 years of reading the site, I became convinced that these statements have little to do with reality.

        For a visitor from Ukraine who does not burden himself with a sound analysis of the situation in his own country, such a comment is not at all surprising.

        All the damned Russians are to blame ...
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 27 November 2020 11: 22
          -3
          Quote: BDRM 667
          Quote: Normal ok
          So this is judging by the statements of the authors of the VO. For 7 years of reading the site, I became convinced that these statements have little to do with reality.

          For a visitor from Ukraine who does not burden himself with a sound analysis of the situation in his own country, such a comment is not at all surprising.

          All the damned Russians are to blame ...

          As for me personally, I have my own opinion, which is different from your generalization: "all of you are Russian people." At least because I myself am Russian lol As for the opinions of the overwhelming majority of VO commentators, over the past 7 years one could be convinced that, at least in matters relating to Ukraine, there definitely "does not smell of common sense." For 7 years in a row, day after day, the same mantras have been published and no one is confused that none of the long-term forecasts have come true. Everyone is waiting for a bright future: the dollar will fall, the yellowstone will explode, the west will fall apart, Ukraine will freeze / fall apart / creep, etc. according to the list ... People live: "in the reserved world of their dreams" B. Grebenchikov.
          PS. By the way, the article says that the Russian leadership is much more adequate to reality.
          1. BDRM 667
            BDRM 667 27 November 2020 13: 22
            +2
            Quote: Normal ok
            I have my own opinion

            Quote: Normal ok
            because I am Russian myself


            Somehow I did not notice in your "own opinion" the condemnation of the actions of the post-Maidan authorities to kill Russians by blood, and simply Russian-minded in Donbass.

            And if so, then you are more Bandera than Russian, "Ivan doesn’t remember kinship"...
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 27 November 2020 11: 39
          -1
          Quote: BDRM 667
          All the damned Russians are to blame ...

          "Muscovites" ...
  7. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 27 November 2020 08: 45
    +7
    Risk of Russian interference? Come on! So, according to the official version of Ukraine, it has been at war with Russia for more than seven years. What "risk" is he talking about ???
    1. Cool but not Igor
      Cool but not Igor 27 November 2020 09: 33
      -1
      It pisses me off the most, i.e. before they did not violate humanitarian law, but now they are so pretty .. how many people died, how many destinies were destroyed, the Donbass suffered irreparable damage am .... hypocrites would like to wait until the Nazi regime collapses and preferably with a bang
      in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in the territory of Donbass, Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of military operations in densely populated areas
      1. Sofa batyr
        Sofa batyr 27 November 2020 10: 55
        +1
        Quote: Cool but not Igor
        It pisses me off the most, i.e. before they did not violate humanitarian law, but now they are so pretty ..


        Not exactly on the topic of your comment, but still on the humanitarian component.

        The Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent a note of protest to Russia in connection with the dispatch of another convoy with humanitarian cargo to Donbass.
        “Considering these illegal actions, a protest note was sent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation,” the ministry said.

        On November 26, two convoys of the Russian Emergencies Ministry delivered about 95 tons of humanitarian aid to residents of Donetsk and Lugansk, including medicines and medical equipment.


        https://ru.rt.com/har1
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 November 2020 11: 48
      -2
      Quote: From Tomsk
      So, according to the official version of Ukraine, it has been at war with Russia for more than seven years. What "risk" is he talking about ???

      Well, it’s Ukraine that is fighting, but some are beginning to understand that it’s impossible to bother a mare with flies, otherwise he’ll hurt his tail.
  8. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 November 2020 08: 50
    +2
    Those. do they not take into account the "loss of statehood"?
  9. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 27 November 2020 08: 55
    +1
    Banderlog's lies in uniform should not be misleading.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 27 November 2020 09: 08
      +2
      Are you saying that there is a military solution for Ukraine for use in Donbass? Are you saying the general lied?
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 27 November 2020 09: 09
        -2
        Are you trying to attribute your thoughts to me?
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 27 November 2020 09: 10
          0
          no. I commented on your thoughts: Banderlog's lies in uniform should not be misleading.
          1. 7,62h54
            7,62h54 27 November 2020 09: 12
            -2
            Do you express your thoughts, what do you think about the situation as a whole?
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 27 November 2020 09: 18
              0
              What is such a situation in general? We are in the topic of discussion of the statement of the General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And in this particular case, the general is not lying about what you say.
              1. Grits
                Grits 27 November 2020 10: 23
                +3
                The general is very honest. And he cuts in that his chances of military success are not just zero, but approaching absolute minus. That is, a country like Ukraine will simply cease to exist.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 27 November 2020 12: 05
                  -2
                  Quote: Gritsa
                  And he cuts in that his chances of military success are not just zero, but approaching an absolute minus.
                  He cuts in, cuts in and hums the song "And Gutkevich thought I had a crumb of ribs, and life is good, and life is good!" If you ask well, you can always receive.
              2. common man
                common man 27 November 2020 12: 55
                -1
                Quote: Svetlana
                And in this particular case, the general is not lying about what you say.

                He is not lying that the outbreak of hostilities will lead to numerous casualties with an unclear result. But this does not mean that they will not start these military operations.
  10. deniso
    deniso 27 November 2020 08: 58
    0
    It is necessary to accurately realize with any decision, the more military, Ukraine will lose all primordially Russian territories at once and forever
  11. BAI
    BAI 27 November 2020 09: 00
    +3
    not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine."

    6 years have passed, they finally figured it out.
  12. Antifreeze
    Antifreeze 27 November 2020 09: 03
    +14
    there is a risk of Russia's interference in the conflict

    Is there a risk of Russian interference when attacking Russia? laughing Apparently, he is the most ingenious.
  13. sgr291158
    sgr291158 27 November 2020 09: 08
    +1
    The biggest fear is that Russia will intervene.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 27 November 2020 09: 23
      +3
      Most of all they are afraid that Russia will intervene ......... this is true, residents of the DPR and LShR receive passports of the Russian Federation slowly but systematically .... so the Ossetian scenario will definitely not keep itself waiting ... but a hamster, though wounded. knows what a pound of dashing votlakh
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  15. vavilon
    vavilon 27 November 2020 09: 19
    +1
    I do not believe this deceitful Maidanist, Saakashvili at one time on the eve of the war also made a peace statement after which he began an invasion of North Ossetia
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 27 November 2020 17: 52
      0
      Misinformation is possible. Soothes before hitting.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 November 2020 09: 26
    +1
    Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) General Ruslan Khomchak assessed the chances of returning Donbass to the country by military means and admitted that he did not see any prospects for this decision.
    After such statements, it can be assumed that the already former "Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" laughing
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 27 November 2020 09: 41
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      After such statements, it can be assumed that the already former "Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine"

      Come on, you! He insured himself. There will be luck - he is a hero, failure - "and I warned everyone." As long as "someone" makes money from this war, it will continue, and even the mercenaries will find funds. Now with a lockdown, there will be a lot of people who want to "earn"
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 27 November 2020 12: 32
        +1

        Fidget (Elena)
        Today, 09:41 ... Come on, you! He insured himself. There will be luck - he is a hero, failure - "and I warned everyone." ..
        Helen, hi ! Of course, you can't get into his head, but such unnecessary speeches are usually not encouraged. We'll see wink
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 November 2020 09: 29
    +1
    there is a risk of Russia's interference in the conflict.
    This is the main reason for the message that the Donbass cannot be returned by military means. The Ukrainian leadership and the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not care about civilian casualties, they do not care about them at present. Yes, and the norms of international law are sideways, tk. there is still confidence that the West will support them (Ukraine) in any case.
  18. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 27 November 2020 10: 18
    -1
    It has been suggested that the Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

    It is quite promising and, alas, more than real. But what to do with drones for the militia is a question.
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 27 November 2020 17: 52
      -1
      Specifically, whose ,, experience ,,? Armenian, probably ..
  19. Gunner
    Gunner 27 November 2020 11: 29
    0
    Nonsense. Trying to lull the vigilance of the LPR.
  20. iouris
    iouris 27 November 2020 11: 44
    0
    Each statement contradicts another statement. There is no money in the budget, but we will buy Turkish drones. The losses will be great, but we are increasing the number of troops. Information is zero. There is nothing to discuss. Everything is visible from space.
  21. orionvitt
    orionvitt 27 November 2020 15: 48
    0
    Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of hostilities in densely populated areas, which could lead to numerous civilian casualties.
    Something before they did not bother about this at all. As the saying goes, srehavshi again. This is the whole modern Ukraine, not a word of truth. The only truthfulness of this "warriors" is that "oh .... oh" the APU is not iron, in case of an offensive, they can break, with a probability of 100%
  22. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 November 2020 17: 51
    -1
    Does this sharovary, commander, even understand what he is talking about? At least a war to start, declared a naive rural lad.
  23. Alf
    Alf 27 November 2020 18: 25
    -1
    According to the general, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in the territory of Donbass, Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of military operations on the territory of densely populated areas, which could lead to numerous losses among the civilian population.

    And when did this right bother you, gentlemen? The population of the LDNR fully "agrees" with this argument.