The Ukrainian Armed Forces assessed the chances of a forceful return of Donbass to Ukraine

The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), General Ruslan Khomchak, assessed the chances of returning Donbass to the country by military means and admitted that he did not see any prospects for this decision. The statement of the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is quoted by the Ukrainian media.

According to Khomchak, there is no purely military solution to return Donbas to Ukraine, and there are several reasons for this.

I want everyone to understand: I do not see a purely military solution to the issue in Donbass, and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine also

- he said.

According to the general, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in the territory of Donbass, Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of military operations on the territory of densely populated areas, which could lead to numerous losses among the civilian population.

(...) they will be calculated in three-, four-digit numbers for advancing 3-5 km inland

- declared Homchak.

In addition, the Ukrainian army will suffer heavy losses, especially since not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine." Therefore, there will be "shots in the back", and all movements of the Ukrainian troops will "merge to the other side." Also, according to the general, there is a risk of Russian interference in the conflict.

Earlier it was reported that Kiev again began to pull military equipment to the area of ​​the contact line. It has been suggested that the Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

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[mitroha]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

Hopeless and suicidal

[Temples]

Quote: Mitroha

The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

Only the parties to the conflict have experience.
Ukrainians did not fight there.
Armenians and Azerbaijanis will not go to war in Donetsk.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces can apply the experience of the Ilovaisk boiler.

The General understands that even the residents of Ukraine itself do not support "Ukraine". Afraid of being shot in the back.
Means not a fool.

[210ox]

I think that the general will not be in office for long ... The Nazis will devour.

[Lord of the Sith]

The fact is that it was not onir that surrounded us, but we were cooking in 7 boilers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And the Ukrainian Armed Forces shouted "Save, help!", And then signed Minsk after the Debaltsevo boiler. Therefore, Zelensky's scarecrows or the general's reasoning worries us very little in the DPR.

[krot]

Also, according to the general, there is a risk of Russian interference in the conflict.

This is the only thing that stops and sobering up the Sumerians!

[Andrei Gurov]

They should not be afraid of Russian intervention, every self-respecting citizen is convinced that the mighty Armed Forces have been victoriously fighting Russia for seven years.

[Rostov Papa]

This refers to the experience of using drones in Karabakh. Another mriya, one drone is fighting, another is putting dumplings in his mouth

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Temples

experience of the Ilovaisk boiler.

So exactly Khomchak seems to have a good experience of escaping from the boiler

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mitroha

The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

Hopeless and suicidal

If, according to the experience of Nagorno-Karabakh, this means together with the Turks and their allies, mercenary terrorists.

[skif8013]

Quote: Mitroha

The Ukrainian Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

Hopeless and suicidal

And they will get the experience of Georgia, only this time you have to go to the capital, and not stop half way.

[BDRM 667]

In addition, the Ukrainian army will suffer heavy losses, especially since not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine." Therefore, there will be "shots in the back", and all movements of the Ukrainian troops will "merge to the other side." Also, according to the general, there is a risk of Russian interference in the conflict.

How sad everything is for Ukraine ... In fact, contrary to all the statements, it turns out that they are not favored in the Donbass, even in the territories occupied by them, not to mention the DPR and LPR.

Woe to shame for such a country, and such a "people liberator" ...

PS - For those who are indignant "equating all people"to the clan of murderers and marauders, let me remind you that in Ukraine it is still relevant, and the slogan is actively circulated in various forms - "The people and the army are one".
That is, the local leaders smeared the entire people, the entire population ...

[bessmertniy]

The general has sober thoughts. Probably the vodka is running out in Ukraine.

[Pereira]

He just understands who will be responsible for the consequences. And this is definitely not Zelenets.

[bessmertniy]

Of course, it is not Zeleny who will not go under the bullets, he will not risk his skin.

[Pereira]

His business is to drive with his hands, and to play the piano with one finger.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bessmertniy

The general has sober thoughts. Probably the vodka is running out in Ukraine.

Will appear if you look closely at his phrase on the territory of Donbass Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law , and then he realizes that no one will pardon him for this, and he is guaranteed a court in The Hague, the example of the former President of Kosovo, Hashim Thaci.

[Grits]

Quote: tihonmarine

and then he realizes that no one will have mercy on him for this

And he also understands that if suddenly they are interrogated and anger uncle Putin, he will be mixed with his own shit and the wreckage of his own headquarters Iskander or Caliber

[Ros 56]

Let them try, a terrible end is better than an endless horror. Delaying the process will cost more and more for both parties.

[Lord of the Sith]

Will you personally fight? Why else would there be calls for genocide and massacres?

[Ros 56]

I understand perfectly well that there is nothing good about it. But, on the other hand, do you want to leave it to your grandchildren-great-grandchildren. And about the genocide, you turned it down, it is now the Banderlogists are slowly conducting genocide in the Donbass. 1-2 people a day, it seems especially imperceptible, but for a year there is no village.

[Lord of the Sith]

No, because people are fleeing the war, obtaining Russian citizenship.
I explain on the fingers, people are leaving, the territory is liberated, then only it is possible to conduct hostilities without losses among the civilians.
And if Ukrainian troops are shelling civilians who have Russian citizenship, then this is a reason to arrange a couple of more boilers for the Sumerians and take the territory. And they know it.

[Ros 56]

Let's wait and see how it turns out.

[Lord of the Sith]

Of course we'll see, the victory will be ours

[Ros 56]

I would live to see this holiday.

[Lord of the Sith]

We are immortals, we will live))

[APASUS]

Normal Western policy, especially learning from the Ukrainian elite, has someone. Under the cries of terror of the local authorities and the oppression of the rights of the people, bombing peaceful cities, a normal practice for NATO

[tihonmarine]

Quote: APASUS

Normal Western policy, especially learning from the Ukrainian elite, has someone.

So if you were learning good things, you learn only bad things.

[cniza]

In addition, the Ukrainian army will suffer heavy losses, especially since not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine."

What "secrets" does this general reveal ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Earlier it was reported that Kiev again began to pull military equipment to the area of ​​the contact line.

Judging by the notes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine constantly pulls the equipment, then pulls it off. It resembles coital frictions, or rather, self-gratification. In order to maintain peace of mind, it is necessary at least with some frequency to technique back and forth, and then smoke.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Earlier it was reported that Kiev again began to pull military equipment to the area of ​​the contact line.

Judging by the notes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine constantly pulls the equipment, then pulls it off. It resembles coital frictions, or rather, self-gratification. In order to maintain peace of mind, it is necessary at least with some frequency to technique back and forth, and then smoke.

So this is judging by the statements of the authors of the VO. For 7 years of reading the site, I became convinced that these statements have little to do with reality.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Normal ok

So this is judging by the statements of the authors of the VO. For 7 years of reading the site, I became convinced that these statements have little to do with reality.

For a visitor from Ukraine who does not burden himself with a sound analysis of the situation in his own country, such a comment is not at all surprising.

All the damned Russians are to blame ...

[Normal ok]

Quote: BDRM 667

Quote: Normal ok

So this is judging by the statements of the authors of the VO. For 7 years of reading the site, I became convinced that these statements have little to do with reality.

For a visitor from Ukraine who does not burden himself with a sound analysis of the situation in his own country, such a comment is not at all surprising.

All the damned Russians are to blame ...

As for me personally, I have my own opinion, which is different from your generalization: "all of you are Russian people." At least because I myself am Russian As for the opinions of the overwhelming majority of VO commentators, over the past 7 years one could be convinced that, at least in matters relating to Ukraine, there definitely "does not smell of common sense." For 7 years in a row, day after day, the same mantras have been published and no one is confused that none of the long-term forecasts have come true. Everyone is waiting for a bright future: the dollar will fall, the yellowstone will explode, the west will fall apart, Ukraine will freeze / fall apart / creep, etc. according to the list ... People live: "in the reserved world of their dreams" B. Grebenchikov.
PS. By the way, the article says that the Russian leadership is much more adequate to reality.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Normal ok

I have my own opinion

Quote: Normal ok

because I am Russian myself

Somehow I did not notice in your "own opinion" the condemnation of the actions of the post-Maidan authorities to kill Russians by blood, and simply Russian-minded in Donbass.

And if so, then you are more Bandera than Russian, "Ivan doesn’t remember kinship"...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: BDRM 667

All the damned Russians are to blame ...

"Muscovites" ...

[From Tomsk]

Risk of Russian interference? Come on! So, according to the official version of Ukraine, it has been at war with Russia for more than seven years. What "risk" is he talking about ???

[Cool but not Igor]

It pisses me off the most, i.e. before they did not violate humanitarian law, but now they are so pretty .. how many people died, how many destinies were destroyed, the Donbass suffered irreparable damage .... hypocrites would like to wait until the Nazi regime collapses and preferably with a bang

in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in the territory of Donbass, Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of military operations in densely populated areas

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Cool but not Igor

It pisses me off the most, i.e. before they did not violate humanitarian law, but now they are so pretty ..

Not exactly on the topic of your comment, but still on the humanitarian component.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent a note of protest to Russia in connection with the dispatch of another convoy with humanitarian cargo to Donbass.

“Considering these illegal actions, a protest note was sent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation,” the ministry said.

On November 26, two convoys of the Russian Emergencies Ministry delivered about 95 tons of humanitarian aid to residents of Donetsk and Lugansk, including medicines and medical equipment.

https://ru.rt.com/har1

[tihonmarine]

Quote: From Tomsk

So, according to the official version of Ukraine, it has been at war with Russia for more than seven years. What "risk" is he talking about ???

Well, it’s Ukraine that is fighting, but some are beginning to understand that it’s impossible to bother a mare with flies, otherwise he’ll hurt his tail.

[Zaurbek]

Those. do they not take into account the "loss of statehood"?

[7,62x54]

Banderlog's lies in uniform should not be misleading.

[Svetlana]

Are you saying that there is a military solution for Ukraine for use in Donbass? Are you saying the general lied?

[7,62x54]

Are you trying to attribute your thoughts to me?

[Svetlana]

no. I commented on your thoughts: Banderlog's lies in uniform should not be misleading.

[7,62x54]

Do you express your thoughts, what do you think about the situation as a whole?

[Svetlana]

What is such a situation in general? We are in the topic of discussion of the statement of the General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And in this particular case, the general is not lying about what you say.

[Grits]

The general is very honest. And he cuts in that his chances of military success are not just zero, but approaching absolute minus. That is, a country like Ukraine will simply cease to exist.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Gritsa

And he cuts in that his chances of military success are not just zero, but approaching an absolute minus.

He cuts in, cuts in and hums the song "And Gutkevich thought I had a crumb of ribs, and life is good, and life is good!" If you ask well, you can always receive.

[common man]

Quote: Svetlana

And in this particular case, the general is not lying about what you say.

He is not lying that the outbreak of hostilities will lead to numerous casualties with an unclear result. But this does not mean that they will not start these military operations.

[Deniso]

It is necessary to accurately realize with any decision, the more military, Ukraine will lose all primordially Russian territories at once and forever

[BAI]

not all residents of Donbass "support Ukraine."

6 years have passed, they finally figured it out.

[Antifreeze]

there is a risk of Russia's interference in the conflict

Is there a risk of Russian interference when attacking Russia? Apparently, he is the most ingenious.

[sgr291158]

The biggest fear is that Russia will intervene.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Most of all they are afraid that Russia will intervene ......... this is true, residents of the DPR and LShR receive passports of the Russian Federation slowly but systematically .... so the Ossetian scenario will definitely not keep itself waiting ... but a hamster, though wounded. knows what a pound of dashing votlakh

[babylon]

I do not believe this deceitful Maidanist, Saakashvili at one time on the eve of the war also made a peace statement after which he began an invasion of North Ossetia

[Alex Justice]

Misinformation is possible. Soothes before hitting.

[aszzz888]

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) General Ruslan Khomchak assessed the chances of returning Donbass to the country by military means and admitted that he did not see any prospects for this decision.

After such statements, it can be assumed that the already former "Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine"

[Egoza]

Quote: aszzz888

After such statements, it can be assumed that the already former "Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine"

Come on, you! He insured himself. There will be luck - he is a hero, failure - "and I warned everyone." As long as "someone" makes money from this war, it will continue, and even the mercenaries will find funds. Now with a lockdown, there will be a lot of people who want to "earn"

[aszzz888]

Fidget (Elena)
Today, 09:41 ... Come on, you! He insured himself. There will be luck - he is a hero, failure - "and I warned everyone." ..

Helen, ! Of course, you can't get into his head, but such unnecessary speeches are usually not encouraged. We'll see

[rotmistr60]

there is a risk of Russia's interference in the conflict.

This is the main reason for the message that the Donbass cannot be returned by military means. The Ukrainian leadership and the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not care about civilian casualties, they do not care about them at present. Yes, and the norms of international law are sideways, tk. there is still confidence that the West will support them (Ukraine) in any case.

[Archivist Vasya]

It has been suggested that the Armed Forces intend to apply the experience of the "Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict" in the Donbas.

It is quite promising and, alas, more than real. But what to do with drones for the militia is a question.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Specifically, whose ,, experience ,,? Armenian, probably ..

[Gunner]

Nonsense. Trying to lull the vigilance of the LPR.

[iouris]

Each statement contradicts another statement. There is no money in the budget, but we will buy Turkish drones. The losses will be great, but we are increasing the number of troops. Information is zero. There is nothing to discuss. Everything is visible from space.

[orionvitt]

Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of hostilities in densely populated areas, which could lead to numerous civilian casualties.

Something before they did not bother about this at all. As the saying goes, srehavshi again. This is the whole modern Ukraine, not a word of truth. The only truthfulness of this "warriors" is that "oh .... oh" the APU is not iron, in case of an offensive, they can break, with a probability of 100%

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Does this sharovary, commander, even understand what he is talking about? At least a war to start, declared a naive rural lad.

[Alf]

According to the general, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in the territory of Donbass, Ukraine will violate international humanitarian law in terms of military operations on the territory of densely populated areas, which could lead to numerous losses among the civilian population.

And when did this right bother you, gentlemen? The population of the LDNR fully "agrees" with this argument.