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"An impressive place to work": the loader of the German "Leopard" spoke about the service on the tank

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Manual loading of the cannon is traditionally the basis for criticism of the German tank "Leopard". As many believe, the lack of automatic delivery of the projectile to the gun negatively affects the rate of fire, not to mention the difficulties that the crew faces. However, Bundeswehr corporal Britta Frey (Fry), serving on the German MBT as a loader, is pleased with her service. She told reporters about her.


Her duties include not only loading the Leopard 2A6 gun, but also working with a 7,62 mm machine gun, if necessary, with an anti-aircraft gun. She is also responsible for radio equipment.

In principle, any crew member can become a loader. However, you should be able to equip the 23mm smoothbore cannon with 120 kg rounds.
- says the 24-year-old girl, explaining that she copes with her duties.

I like being in a battle tank for at least two weeks when there are intense classes.

Britta, the daughter of an officer, chose the military because she "wanted to do a job that was challenging not only mentally but also physically."

In my opinion, the Bundeswehr was the best choice. It is never boring because no two days are alike. In addition, you interact with people a lot, get to know a variety of characters and soon appreciate them as companions.
- explains the corporal.

She began serving at headquarters, but became disillusioned with her and transferred to the armored forces.

For me, a battle tank is an impressive place to work, impressive and unique with all its capabilities.
- says the girl.

She intends to follow in her father's footsteps and has already applied for a transfer to an officer's courses. But before starting her studies, she will have to take part in the Baltic mission. This suggests that the German Defense Ministry actually defines maneuvers and firing at the Baltic range as military practice.

What I like about the [military] operation in Lithuania is its multinationality and the ability to work with soldiers from other countries. I am looking forward to the planned large-scale exercises
- Britta concludes her interview.


Photos used:
German Defense Ministry website
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  1. Avior
    Avior 27 November 2020 08: 35
    +19
    It looks impressive.
    Why is her face smeared, I wonder?
    1. Yaro Polk
      Yaro Polk 27 November 2020 08: 43
      +24
      Rambo III, seen enough in childhood))
      1. Temples
        Temples 27 November 2020 08: 46
        +58
        A guy with boobs. wassat
        Or a man without a Faberge. laughing

        There is no woman in the photo.
        This is a fact.

        The Williams brothers played tennis for the Americans. They also mowed down women. laughing
        1. Yaro Polk
          Yaro Polk 27 November 2020 09: 12
          +8
          Well, if IT positions itself as a woman, you can write about this gender in a woman's kind ... not in LOM)
          1. Alexander Vorontsov
            Alexander Vorontsov 27 November 2020 12: 06
            +22
            I liked this more.
            "I wanted to do work that was challenging not only mentally but physically."

            Those. there is also an intellectual challenge))) throwing shells ..
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 27 November 2020 20: 32
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
              there is also an intellectual challenge
              Agonizing choice: which one is next (of the same)?
              1. Alexander Vorontsov
                Alexander Vorontsov 27 November 2020 21: 33
                +7
                Ага.
                Still this
                I like being in a battle tank for at least two weeks when there are intense classes.

                Yes, it is clear why she likes being in the tank. With such a face ...
                With her there are 3 men locked up)))) She also controls the output)))
                If someone decides to leave the car, he will have to ... squeeze.
                1. Alesi13
                  Alesi13 28 November 2020 16: 44
                  +1
                  A monster of a terrible kind, grabbed the unfortunate child
                2. Victor Tsenin
                  Victor Tsenin 28 November 2020 20: 47
                  -1
                  Here, yes, the question is to squeeze between what) Three Fritz between Britta ...
    2. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 27 November 2020 08: 45
      +5
      This is their fashion - face in the dirt. wink
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 27 November 2020 08: 46
      +7
      I wiped off the sweat. When we got out of the tanks and were not like that)))
      Although, most likely, for the entourage - what would the photo be spectacular.
    4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 27 November 2020 08: 46
      +12
      Quote: Avior
      Why is her face smeared, I wonder

      So that it was not visible that this is actually a man.
    5. Mitroha
      Mitroha 27 November 2020 08: 54
      +10
      Quote: Avior
      It looks impressive.
      Why is her face smeared, I wonder?

      She wants to become a black man in order to get ALL nishtyaks in general. Feminist Lesbian Ebony voen- same European dream <sarcasm>
      1. Alf
        Alf 27 November 2020 18: 31
        +2
        Quote: Mitroha
        Feminist Lesbian Ebony voen- same European dream <sarcasm>

        Also an invalid is obligatory.
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 27 November 2020 19: 16
          +4
          So already, over the head laughing
        2. Barmal
          Barmal 27 November 2020 23: 27
          0
          asthmatic, of course, but how else?
    6. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 27 November 2020 09: 07
      0
      I am tormented by vague doubts that she is not a transformed transgender.
    7. oleole97
      oleole97 27 November 2020 09: 30
      +4
      She's probably also a fireman.
    8. aglet
      aglet 27 November 2020 10: 06
      +4
      "Why is her face smeared, I wonder?"
      so as not to seem so scary
    9. demchuk.ig
      demchuk.ig 27 November 2020 10: 46
      -5
      Why is her face smeared, I wonder?
      I got smeared on the commander's fly.
    10. svp67
      svp67 27 November 2020 12: 03
      +2
      Quote: Avior
      Why is her face smeared, I wonder?

      Hands were dirty when I wiped sweat from my face or mascara flowed ... laughing
    11. Simargl
      Simargl 27 November 2020 20: 33
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Why is her face smeared, I wonder?
      to shoot with a bullet
    12. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 27 November 2020 21: 40
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Why is her face smeared, I wonder?

      This is camouflage camouflage. In my opinion, it did not fit seriously. It was necessary like this:
      1. Dkuznecov
        Dkuznecov 27 November 2020 23: 33
        0
        You are not right. Such a bush by a young observer
        I'll take 20 minutes.
        If I watch it myself, I might miss it.
        But I'll throw a mine at every fireman.
    13. the most important
      the most important 28 November 2020 00: 38
      -1
      Quote: Avior
      Why is her face smeared, I wonder?

      Well, who will lead this to the bathhouse ??? Moreover, the memory under the crust remained from 1945, that you have to fall with your muzzle into the mud. she is already ready.
    14. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 29 November 2020 08: 13
      0
      She was not taught to wash as a child. And Moidodyr, who: "the chief of the washbasins and the sponges" the commander "only knows Russian-speaking
      1. Avior
        Avior 29 November 2020 10: 17
        +1
        Yes, it's a problem. However, the coronavirus is slowly teaching hands to wash smile
        Do you know how Korney Ivanovich himself explained the appearance of Moidodyr, Fedora and Aibolit in a letter to the rector of the Institute of National Economy Khalatov?
        ... Am I straying from trends in my children's books. Not at all! For example, the tendency of "Moidodyr" is a passionate appeal of the little ones to cleanliness, to wash. I think that in a country where not so long ago they used to say about everyone who brushes his teeth, "hey, hey, you see, well and then!" this trend is worth everyone else. I know hundreds of cases where "Moidodyr" played the role of the People's Commissariat for Health for the little ones.

        The same tendency is with Fedorin Gore. It promotes hygiene, sanitation, and respect for things, which our young culture lacks.

        I will, I will be dishes
        And love and respect.

        The tendency of my "Limpopo" is respect for medicine and doctors, which is also not superfluous in a country of little culture.

        (SS K.I. Chukovsky in 15 volumes, vol. 2, M .: Terra - Book Club / 2001)
        http://www.chukfamily.ru/kornei/pro-et-contra/borba-za-skazku/ki-chukovskij-ab-xalatovu-otryvok-iz-chernovika
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 November 2020 08: 35
    +4
    In peacetime, why not even serve as a loader, I think her opinion will change in the event of a war, although ..... it all depends on the character.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 27 November 2020 08: 43
      +12
      Fine. Every self-respecting feminist should strive for this position in order to once again prove her irresistible superiority over nature.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 09: 07
        +22
        +1000
        A lady of severe dimensions. Such an elephant at a gallop will stop and its trunk will tear off!
        1. infantryman2020
          infantryman2020 27 November 2020 09: 13
          +2
          lol! remember!
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 27 November 2020 15: 06
          +11
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          +1000
          A lady of severe dimensions. Such an elephant at a gallop will stop and its trunk will tear off!

          just Galya
          Just Galya.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 27 November 2020 15: 46
            +11
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Just Galya.

            I don’t understand something, is she just carrying a log or is she also pulling the carriage on a rope?
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 27 November 2020 21: 45
              +9
              Quote: cat Rusich
              Just Galya.

      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 27 November 2020 09: 08
        +5
        over nature.

        Over men ... the main goal of feminists is to prove their superiority over the male sex by any means. hi Hence, they have such aggressive behavior in dealing with men.
        1. WapentakeLokki
          WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 07
          0
          ... well, they proved that the MODERN (western) husband is inferior to the feminine IN EVERYTHING and what's next ... to declare him the second grade (sign at the entrance; ... for dogs and men without a female escort ENTRANCE IS PROHIBITED !!!) and make them GIVING (in agony but with a cesarean section) .. and so you can continue .. what's the point in tearing the veins ???
          1. Barmal
            Barmal 27 November 2020 23: 30
            0
            I'm not sure that they are exactly the veins that are ready to tear ...
  3. 2я19
    2я19 27 November 2020 08: 35
    +5
    Have you smeared your face with wax?
  4. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 27 November 2020 08: 36
    +8
    The exercise in the Baltics is a military operation. Mmm, that's how the "combat veterans" are made
  5. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 27 November 2020 08: 38
    +21
    I don’t understand - why would a tanker paint his mug? Is it really for disguise? You still can't see her in the tank.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 27 November 2020 08: 40
      +11
      He does not wash his hands before eating.
    2. Per se.
      Per se. 27 November 2020 08: 45
      +11
      This is a "make-up" for colleagues, so as not to pester ("I'm wooing Marfushenka, wooing, and everyone looks at the damned Nastka ...").
    3. Slon_on
      Slon_on 27 November 2020 08: 55
      +4
      Duc, all because "well, why are you so terrible ..." (c). And further in the text of the song.
    4. Barmal
      Barmal 27 November 2020 23: 34
      +1
      the footprint from the boot of the tank commander - jumped like a feminist before him and with boots on her face, he rode - and there is no need to clap your eyes when the commander jumps into the hatch.
    5. Ramadan
      Ramadan 28 November 2020 10: 46
      0
      Yes, she just drags on all this)) This is her fetish)
  6. Per se.
    Per se. 27 November 2020 08: 41
    +13
    Britta Frey (Fry), serving on the German MBT as a loader, is pleased with her service. She told reporters about her.
    This is Frau, "Freken Bock"! And we here, you know, all indulge in shells ...
  7. Doliva63
    Doliva63 27 November 2020 08: 42
    +4
    Quote: Avior
    It looks impressive.
    Why is her face smeared, I wonder?

    Maskgrim obviously laughing
  8. Evil 55
    Evil 55 27 November 2020 08: 43
    -1
    And the girl is getting ready for the Eastern Front .... for three minutes of battle she will be enough, along with the tank.
    1. NI1
      NI1 27 November 2020 09: 10
      +1
      Do you think the Germans are going to use tank wedges on our ATGMs in the old fashioned way?
      And if they start fighting in a new way, like the Turks with the Azerbaijanis in Karabakh, then the girl will hold out for more than 3 minutes?
    2. WapentakeLokki
      WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 12
      -2
      .. well, if she manages to leave her Leopard before it burns down, then she will have a chance to meet real CONDO men from the Russian infantry .. only I doubt their reaction when it comes to them that this is not Fritz, but even Britta .. Well, yes, out of hunger, maybe something shines for her ... although it seems that Savchenko did not seem to be impressed by the pasans from near Donetsk, and after all, Kraina tse Europa is the same ...
  9. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 27 November 2020 08: 44
    +1
    Strange fantasies of a German tanker. If she likes a soldier's international, it doesn't have to be in a tank. repeat
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 27 November 2020 08: 45
      +5
      It's more interesting in a tank than in an elevator.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 27 November 2020 08: 46
        +3
        And on the plane is more summer! wink
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 27 November 2020 09: 55
          +4
          Quote: bessmertniy
          And on the plane is more summer! wink

          Then, "deeper in the submarine"? :)
  10. 113262a
    113262a 27 November 2020 08: 45
    +2
    And the suit is still old! Although practical and convenient, but not NOMEX! Burns and breaks !.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 27 November 2020 08: 46
    +7
    All this is good and healthy in peacetime. Work for girls, romance of military service. And in a war the life of the crew will depend on it and every fraction of a second matters.
    Bullshit
    1. NI1
      NI1 27 November 2020 09: 07
      +5
      Naturally nonsense! This is Europe - a hotbed of tolerance and feminism! And here, in Rossiyushka, everything is according to the original, according to the correct, right ?! ))) We have no women in the army, otherwise they are not women! And there never was. Especially in wartime. Am I right, Comrade Marshal? And female crews in tanks and planes during the Second World War it was the foolishness of the Red Army, right?

      I think that the crew of any tank or the ATGM crew that received the shell will be far from indifferent to who loaded it in the tank: a woman or a man.

      It seems that the commentators on Topvar are not only solid couch patriots, but also men suffering from inferiority complexes. )) Calm down, men. Women can also give a light to the brave lads. Remember the story to begin with.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 27 November 2020 09: 21
        +12
        Quote: NI1
        Naturally nonsense! This is Europe - a hotbed of tolerance and feminism!

        And that you found a contradiction here. Do you like this situation?

        Quote: NI1
        We have no women in the army, otherwise they are not women!

        There are no loaders in the tanks, are there machine guns? How many female tank crews do you know?
        Quote: NI1
        And there never was. Especially in wartime.

        And with whom Germany is fighting now, do not tell me what is recruiting women as loaders?
        Quote: NI1
        And female crews in tanks and planes during the Second World War it was the foolishness of the Red Army, right?

        Yes, nonsense turns out. There is a sufficient number of military professions for women and they don’t fucking install rollers for a while and pull a goose after a break, this is not a woman’s business!
        Quote: NI1
        It seems that the commentators on Topvar are not only solid couch patriots, but also men suffering from inferiority complexes.

        Specialist, have you ever been under fire, why are you trying to prick me? When you will, then we will talk on equal terms, otherwise you let go of the snot, lover of justice
        1. NI1
          NI1 27 November 2020 09: 27
          -5
          Equally? Oh well...
        2. Captain45
          Captain45 27 November 2020 12: 00
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          How many female tank crews do you know?

          Well, as far as I know, one specially prepared for the last biathlon, and he performed out of competition, purely demonstration performances, they say, women can also ... but not always and everywhere.
        3. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 29 November 2020 14: 38
          +1
          "with whom Germany is fighting now" on the site saw the material that there are female tank crews in China. China, unlike Germany, has no shortage of men. I would venture to suggest that the Chinese use women to advertise the service in the PLA, as in the movie "Fanfan - Tulip" a charming fortune-teller lured simpletons into the army.
          In this case, this corporal is needed: advertise: "Leopard"
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 29 November 2020 14: 48
            0
            Quote: Astra wild2
            "Fanfan - tulip" charming fortune teller lured simpletons into the army.
            In this case, this corporal is needed: advertise: "Leopard"


            If this is the standard of female beauty in German, then it is quite possible
            1. Astra wild2
              Astra wild2 29 November 2020 14: 57
              +1
              Show that the woman can handle the service on the Leopard. Or to shame the "ktsilshchik"? This is probably an international concept.
      2. aglet
        aglet 27 November 2020 10: 11
        +5
        "And female crews in tanks and planes during the Second World War, it was the foolishness of the Red Army, isn't it?"
        separate crews, strictly for propaganda. a woman has no place in war, as both Germany and the United States have successfully proved
      3. Alf
        Alf 27 November 2020 18: 40
        +1
        Quote: NI1
        And female crews in tanks and planes during the Second World War it was the foolishness of the Red Army, right?

        Then there was the War and there were not enough men. Remind me, with which country is the FRG at war now? Or are the men over in Germany? Left alone .... with an alternative brain layout?
        1. WapentakeLokki
          WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 14
          +1
          ..and what do you think these two doves are not good for tankmen ??? ... what kind of .. such ..
        2. Dkuznecov
          Dkuznecov 27 November 2020 23: 36
          -1
          Stop it. No one is interested in how they dispose of
          people with their bodies. What is this heresy?
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 28 November 2020 07: 46
            0
            Is this sarcasm or attitude?
            1. Dkuznecov
              Dkuznecov 28 November 2020 17: 36
              +1
              This is my position.
              In general, intimate affairs are a secret thing.
              As well as beliefs. I am not against adepts
              any religion until they start
              frankly popularize them.
              1. Alf
                Alf 28 November 2020 19: 28
                0
                Quote: DKuznecov
                until they start
                frankly popularize them.

                What is happening now in the "enlightened" West.
                Quote: DKuznecov
                Stop it. No one is interested in how they dispose of
                people with their bodies. What is this heresy?

                While one rear-wheel drive is hammering in a dark corner of the same, I do not care, I start to worry at the moment when these genetic monsters come to light and begin to make others think that everyone should do this, and who does not should not be ...
  12. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 27 November 2020 08: 46
    0
    Soon the sex change operation will be done.
  13. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 27 November 2020 08: 47
    -2
    In Soviet tanks, it seems, since the 50s, there was an "automatic charge", but in the 21st century they have some kind of archaism.
    Tank "Iron Kaput" from KALAMBUR laughing
    1. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 27 November 2020 09: 29
      0
      It remains to be seen which is better. Charger or mechanism. The mechanism does NOT provide a higher rate of fire than the loader. For example, our M1A2 usually quietly reach a rate of fire of 10 rounds per minute. It is also known that the rate of fire of 17 rounds per minute was achieved at the competitions - the entire "combat stock" was fully used. I read that some crew fired 17 shots in 47 seconds. The presence of ammunition in the BO is also not sugar, ammo behind armored doors and with blow-out panels gives the crew a CHANCE not to be turned into steam when detonating the ammo. ... Everyone has already written about the fact that projectiles of a certain length can be loaded into the automatic loader. And making an automatic loader in a tower niche is also dumb, the dimensions increase (and they also need to be booked). Well, change the caterpillar faster with four than three. So what is better. And it's easier to replace the loader than to repair the automatic loader. As for the women in the army. Damn, I've seen enough. We had women in one transport company. Well, yes, they have fulfilled the standards. But when loading and unloading trucks, they worked exactly 2 times slower than the men, of course the men had to take the rap for them. This did not add love and respect to these women. But, again - it is impossible to SAY anything - sexism, discrimination, etc. and so on. Yes, a 120 pound woman did 40 push-ups. But lugging 80-120 pound boxes for a 200 pound guy who did the same 40 push-ups will be MUCH easier. But, naturally, no one could say a word - sexism, sir. On the other hand, we had several women in the brigade - specialists in the repair of radio electronic equipment - no one had any complaints about their service. good specialists, worked great.
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 27 November 2020 09: 59
        +10
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        M1A2s usually quietly reach a rate of fire of 10 rounds per minute. It is also known that the rate of fire of 17 rounds per minute was achieved at the competitions - the entire "combat stock" was fully used. I read that some crew fired 17 shots in 47 seconds.

        You are not yet aware that a person gets tired and cannot constantly maintain a high pace. But this is fixable: as soon as you start lifting something heavier than a manicure file, you will immediately understand.
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 28 November 2020 00: 30
          -1
          I am not a tanker, I am an infantryman, a military medic. Although he dragged mines to mortars. I had to :-). I'll tell you a secret, the tank DOES NOT NEED to constantly maintain a huge rate of fire. The shells tend to run out, but quickly fire 2-3 shells at the detected target - yes, here you can, and here the loader will work faster than AZ.
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 29 November 2020 02: 59
            +2
            Quote: Baron Pardus
            I am not a tanker, I am an infantryman, a military medic. Although he dragged mines to mortars. I had to :-). I'll tell you a secret, the tank DOES NOT NEED to constantly maintain a huge rate of fire. The shells tend to run out, but quickly fire 2-3 shells at the detected target - yes, here you can, and here the loader will work faster than AZ.

            Once you are not a doctor, otherwise you would be aware that a person gets tired not only from carrying shells. Even just waiting is tiresome. But it’s too early for you to know, adult uncles know this ...
      2. Kurare
        Kurare 27 November 2020 10: 40
        +12
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        It remains to be seen which is better. Charger or mechanism.

        hi Let's start with the fact that almost ALL new or promising developments exclude the loader from the crew. So what is better is known. In addition, if you read the technical literature on this topic (except, of course, the American one), then according to the totality of its capabilities, many recognize the K2 Black Panther (Korea) as the best tank at the moment. And in it, the loader is absent.
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        I read that some crew fired 17 shots in 47 seconds.

        In hothouse conditions, having previously prepared the BC "under the arm" and without movement - I can believe it. But when the tank is moving, when the loader does not know whether he will jump now, slide down, or can suddenly jerk to the side, such records are not even close. And AZ / MZ copes with this.
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        Everyone has already written about the fact that projectiles of a certain length can be loaded into the automatic loader.

        And these problems can be solved: the same K2 or Armata.
        1. oldzek
          oldzek 27 November 2020 12: 02
          +9
          and more, she says there about 23kg ... okay, a sub-caliber one. and a high-explosive fragmentation weighs over 30kg and on a crossroads. there is no time to record loading speed. this is what I say to you as a former charger. shudder ...
        2. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 28 November 2020 00: 43
          -2
          By the way, you are absolutely right. At that event, 17 shots were fired in 45 or 47 seconds from a standstill. They just threw shells at the cannon at maximum temp. And they spent the "handy" ammunition. But in Iraq, in the battles for the Ar Rumailah airfield, our tanks showed a rate of fire (On the move) an average of 10 rounds per minute. as a rule, one shell is already in the gun, the second is in the hands of the loader. Two shells one after the other, given our LMS, will be enough to hit an enemy tank or other target, and if you don't destroy it, then disable it. I spoke about AZ in the tower. It increases the size of the turret (see the same Panther), and makes the tank heavier. In general, the simplest turret AZs were used by the French in theirs AMX13. Moreover, it is cheaper to replace a wounded or sick loader than to change and repair an AZ. The Germans, by the way, are not chasing AZ. But it seems to me that Germany has a little (just a little) more experience of war than South Korea. The rate of fire does not make much difference. You can shoot 45 times from a 10mm cannon (and even hit) a T62 lobster without punching it. You can shoot 10 times and not hit. And this already depends on the OMS and detection devices, and no rate of fire will help.
      3. Alf
        Alf 27 November 2020 18: 48
        +3
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        It is also known that the rate of fire of 17 rounds per minute was achieved in competitions.

        Shot in three seconds? Not funny.
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        The ammo rack behind the armored doors and with the knockout panels gives the crew a CHANCE not to be vaporized when the ammo detonates.

        The Gulf War showed that the shutters were wedged open to increase the rate of fire. What did this lead to, I think it's not worth talking about?
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        The mechanism does NOT provide a higher rate of fire than the loader.

        In move ?
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        It is also known that the rate of fire of 17 rounds per minute was achieved in competitions.

        Leclerc in this case is considered a tank that can shoot 8 rounds per minute SIGHTING. In the West, this is considered an unsurpassed result. You can shoot 50 shots per minute, but even Roman Mars does not know WHERE the shells will fly.
      4. WapentakeLokki
        WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 18
        +1
        ..mister the ag sorevnovaniya..a you compare the rate of yes on rough terrain (and if we add the contact (not even blanks just RPG)) then your Frau (or at amerovskogo nigger) performance will fall at times .. but the automatic loader, as it gave out the average, will continue to give out ...
      5. Simargl
        Simargl 27 November 2020 20: 50
        +4
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        For example, our M1A2 usually quietly reach a rate of fire of 10 rounds per minute.
        This is when the tank does not move? And if she does? Yes over rough terrain, yes quickly? Or is it just a maneuvering the "carousel" method? I think there is a non-zero probability of dropping a projectile.

        Quote: Baron Pardus
        I read that some crew fired 17 shots in 47 seconds
        And the mechanic driver, probably, carried the shells?

        Quote: Baron Pardus
        The ammo rack behind the armored doors and with the knockout panels gives the crew a CHANCE not to be vaporized when the ammo detonates.
        A BC below the tower - reduces the chance of detonation. No?

        Quote: Baron Pardus
        Well, change the caterpillar faster with four than three.
        Somewhere there is a video of how the Japanese (or Koreans) had a gusl at the show - there were about 30 people running around. We, in biathlon, coped faster with a log ...

        Quote: Baron Pardus
        The mechanism does NOT provide a higher rate of fire than the loader.
        This should be said by the developers of the A-192. First of all, AZ makes it possible to reduce the size of the tank! And the size of the BOPS is limited - this is how the AZ was designed when they were very small.
        And make the tower uninhabited wink
        But the American loaders union will never give free rein to the designers! tongue
      6. mister-red
        mister-red 27 November 2020 23: 31
        +2
        It is also known that the rate of fire of 17 rounds per minute was achieved in competitions.

        The key phrase is in competitions. During a battle, when a tank jumps over rough terrain, when some shell hits the armor and even though it doesn't pierce, the ringing in the ears will be awesome, and maybe blood from the ears - that's when we'll look at the rate of fire.
      7. bk316
        bk316 30 November 2020 18: 18
        0
        , Tell me please, a medic, but how to make an uninhabited tower without an automatic loader?
    2. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa 27 November 2020 17: 56
      +1
      Oh, now they will throw at you ... That a "leather bag" as a loading mechanism is better and can carry large BOPSs, which not every AZ can do.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 27 November 2020 20: 53
        +2
        Quote: d4rkmesa
        and can carry large BOPSs, which not every AZ is able to do.
        This is how the designers will untie their hands, how they stick 130-140-155 / 152 mm into tanks, how the BOPS will become one and a half meters long and a cartridge for 100 kg - we'll see.
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 28 November 2020 01: 11
          -4
          Then AZ will become quite relevant, especially for 140-155mm. Although the Germans, smart guys, just took the old 120mm cannon, lengthened the barrel, strengthened the structure for firing more powerful bops and are happy. Another thing is that if some goof throws a NEW reinforced projectile into an OLD cannon, it can bang beautifully. (I do not know if there is foolproof protection or not). Considering that a NEW cannon can be installed on OLD tanks, this is a very simple and cheap solution .. And the fact that 130mm (Germans) and 140mm (French) will be designed, well, let's see for now. By the way, the German gun was tested, emnip on the Challenger, where the loader sits. And loaded by hand.
          And what about the dimensions. You see, modern fire control systems absolutely do not care if your tank is 2.2 meters high (T90) or 2.4 meters (Abrams). Seichas, by the way, there is a discussion in the United States about missile tanks. I mean, a tank with a light cannon, but the main armament is something like Hellfair Longboy. By the way, this Helfair also absolutely does not care about a 2.2 meter or 2.4 meter tank. A modern tank gun has a dispersion of not 10 meters by 500 meters. Here is infa about the accuracy of the L7 cannon https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a073353.pdf and since then they have invented a lot of things.

          The rate of fire is the same. If your LMS is mediocre, then rate of fire won't help you much. You simply will not be able to hit the target from the first shot, and an enemy with a good SLA will simply not give you a chance for a second shot. If you have bad means of detection, and the enemy has good ones, then your rate of fire will NOT help you either. You simply will not find the enemy. And find yourself standing in front of the Apostle Peter (or in front of Odin).
          The fact that the Koreans and the French put AZ on the tanks does not mean EXACTLY anything. Why? And because everything is done for the sake of profit. And if they pushed through an expensive tank (and, EMNIP Leclerc and Panther are the most expensive in the world, more expensive than Abrams and Leopard2), this does not mean that the TANK is BETTER, which means that the manufacturer will receive MORE profit.
          Speaking of money, the charger is CHEAPER AZ, it's also cheaper to repair, I'm not talking about the fact that ALL tankers are taught at least the basics of what others in the crew do. So the loader can somehow replace the wounded (or killed) gunner or another member of the ekpage. It is also faster to load the BC with four people :-) for those who have doubts, I recommend downloading the BC at least in Bradley. By oneself..

          I say it again. Let's say, LET'S ADMIT you have Abrams in service (whatever, if only without AZ). New, longer BOPS appear, but you don't care. Negro Tyrone will throw them just like the old ones. Then you decided to put a new German cannon, well, which is L55, on reinforced charges. And you don't care. Negro Tyrone will charge the same way as before. Now let's imagine that you have a T-80. New long BOPS have arrived, but they do not climb into AZ. From the word NO. and like BOPS are in the warehouse, but we cannot shoot them. Then we decided that we will lengthen it 125mm and strengthen it, we will do it like the Germans with their 120mm. The cannon has been installed, but NEW shells do not fit into the OLD AZ. And now you have the pleasure of making love with the new AZ and its installation in the OLD building and the OLD tower.
          Therefore the charger is simply cheaper. In all senses. And given the fact that our loaders serve for at least 4 years, then the skill of throwing shells on the move will be more than that of a brow who served 1 year.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 29 November 2020 19: 41
            +1
            Quote: Baron Pardus
            Although the Germans are smart, they just took the old 120mm cannon, lengthened the barrel, strengthened the structure for firing more powerful bops and are happy.
            Clever girls! Our mediocrity made a cannon, to which it is not worth letting live people when shooting - without an ejector, which means - a parasitic volume and a pressure drop zone. I had to fence the tank without a crew in the tower.

            Quote: Baron Pardus
            And what about the dimensions. You see, modern fire control systems absolutely do not care if your tank is 2.2 meters high (T90) or 2.4 meters (Abrams).
            No, I don’t understand. The fact is that I can shoot, I shot from different weapons. And I understand very well the difference in target dimensions. It's one thing to notice a target, it's another to hit it: if the Abrams profile is 90 times larger than the T-1,4, then it's easier to hit ... 2-3 times. Don't believe me?
            Simple experience:
            1 - go to the shooting range,
            2 - make 100 shots,
            3 - cover all holes with a profile (for example, a tank), count (let's say, it turned out 100),
            4 - draw the same profile, but 1,4 times smaller area,
            5 - count the holes, count the ratio.

            Quote: Baron Pardus
            Seichas, by the way, there is a discussion in the United States about missile tanks. I mean, a tank with some kind of light cannon, but the main armament is something like Hellfair Longboy.
            The developers of the BMPT Terminator drove into the future and stole the idea. They can't do anything themselves!

            Quote: Baron Pardus
            And find yourself standing in front of the Apostle Peter (or in front of Odin).
            Macron Monster will confirm: I don't believe in gods.

            Quote: Baron Pardus
            Speaking of money - CHEAPER CHEAPER AZ
            Correctly! Meat is cheaper than cast iron! After all, an increase in the reserve volume does not affect the dimensions in any way, and a person needs 2-3 extra cubic meters. It was in the T-14 that they drove people into a capsule, expelled from the tower, reduced the armor volume and made the equivalent of frontal armor in a meter with the same mass. Ignoramuses, WHO!

            Quote: Baron Pardus
            Then you decided to put a new German cannon, well, which is L55, on reinforced charges. And you don't care.
            Oh yeah! Negro don't care. The same as the AZ T-90, because if you really need it, you can also charge the Lead ... with handles. Slowly but possible. Oops ... betrayed a military secret ...
            However, if you don’t know, I’ll let you know: the length of the shot for Abrams is limited to about 1 m. The M829E4 has already reached the bottom of the sleeve. The improved AZ T-90 - yes, it only digests 74 cm versus 90 cm.
  14. HAM
    HAM 27 November 2020 08: 56
    +4
    In "Abramsh" -nigres, in "Leopards" -baby ..... nobody canceled tolerance ... laughing
    1. AlexVas44
      AlexVas44 27 November 2020 09: 04
      +1
      Quote: HAM
      In "Abrams" - negros, in "Leopards" - babes .....

      In the "Abrams" - negros, in "Leopards" - babes like blacks... laughing
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 27 November 2020 10: 02
        +1
        In principle, if with a small letter and not in quotes, then blacks can meet in a leopard ... :)
    2. Yaro Polk
      Yaro Polk 27 November 2020 09: 07
      +6
      The US Secretary of State (new) E. Blinken said: "... his grandfather, who escaped from the concentration camp, met a tank with a white star in the forest, and a NEGRO tank COMMANDER got out of the hatch of the tank, and his grandfather told him three words that knew in English "GOD SAVE AMERICA" laughing
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 27 November 2020 10: 44
        +3
        Quote: Yaro Polk
        from the hatch of the tank got out the COMMANDER of the tank NEGRO, and grandfather told him three words that he knew in English "GOD SAVE AMERICA"

        hi You missed the most important thing: he KNEEED! As befits everyone, according to the postulates of BLM and arch-democratic and liberal America.

        And now, in contrast:
        https://www.sport-express.ru/football/abroad/reviews/v-ssha-futbolist-iz-rossii-ne-vstal-na-koleno-intervyu-kak-dvizhenie-black-lives-matter-vliyaet-na-sport-1731158/
        1. WapentakeLokki
          WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 24
          +2
          ... well, generally at a nigger in the tank (which back in the 45th that now there is only one role - being charged) and the fact that the nigga got out first and then the clear - white perod run it (if you kill something wrong It's a pity) but in the distant 45th Blinken's grandfather did not have a smart and he could not google and find out that in front of him was not the commander of Sherman, but a dead automatic loader Made in USA ...
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 27 November 2020 11: 55
        +4
        Quote: Yaro Polk
        the NEGRO tank COMMANDER got out,

        No, I watched the performance, he said - AFRO-AMERICAN! Even then, grandfather knew how they would call NEGROV in half a century. Well Blinken what do you want laughing
    3. WapentakeLokki
      WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 20
      +1
      ..but no way to cross them (well, like a snake and a hedgehog) so that the exit is a baba-nigga ... well, or a nigga-trans ... from-it would be in the spirit of the complete victory of the Light side over the dense old times ...
  15. Oleg Bykov
    Oleg Bykov 27 November 2020 09: 06
    +13
    In principle, any crew member can become a loader. However, you should be able to equip the 23mm smoothbore cannon with 120 kg rounds.
    - says the 24-year-old girl, explaining that she copes with her duties.

    And here the Ministry of Labor discriminates against women - it forbids lifting a load of more than 15 kg at a time ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 18: 50
      0
      Quote: Oleg Bykov
      And here the Ministry of Labor discriminates against women - it forbids lifting a load of more than 15 kg at a time ...

      Backward and intolerant ...
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 28 November 2020 01: 58
        -3
        We have a WARNING in the army that "your chosen profession can carry professional risks", you sign a piece of paper saying that you knew about it, and you are free. The gunners sign that they know that their hearing may be affected. By the way, now in the USA there is a court, a company that supplied earplugs for the Armed Forces, the USSA supplied some kind of crap that did not protect the soldiers from damage to the hearing aid. The company is now on trial. And robust. Have you been warned? They warned you - your problems, if you want to be a loader - try to tear yourself at least until the uterus falls out, but YOU WERE WARNED. Everything is "democratic", we have "equality" (in theory). Again, you are warned more than once or twice that if you are injured, and you do not have a bulletproof vest and helmets, then there will be NO COMPENSATION - you have violated the safety technique. Therefore, our in any heat and in bulletproof vests, and in a helmet. Not in berets, caps and hats, bandanas, but in helmets. +40? Doesn't sway. But this is the ARMY, the special forces have their own troubles and rules.
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 27 November 2020 20: 55
      0
      Quote: Oleg Bykov
      And here the Ministry of Labor discriminates against women - it forbids lifting a load of more than 15 kg at a time ...
      Separate loading to help
  16. Galleon
    Galleon 27 November 2020 09: 14
    +5
    At what point ordinary good girls become completely like this ... wassat "enchanting" women ?? Really, during her entire puberty period, none of the guys told her that she was beautiful love or pretty, that it turned down to the tank ?? How can one fail to recall the Apostle Paul (Rom. 1) with his "their women replaced their natural use with an unnatural one" - what is it like an unnatural use of a woman? fool
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 15: 10
      0
      Quote: Galleon
      Is she cute that she was turned down to the tank ??


      Yes, to hell with him with the tank, even if our tank is not good, although there are circus acts like pulling a torn caterpillar - but this is a loader !!!!
    2. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 18: 52
      -1
      Quote: Galleon
      Really, during her entire puberty period, none of the guys told her that she was beautiful or pretty

      Yeah, try it, tell me, they will immediately pull you to court for harassment and sexism.
  17. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 27 November 2020 09: 14
    +3
    Journalists do not often come to the loaders. Publication, this is a skillfully highlighted beginning of a career, a girl will not stay for a long time. She talks about the officer's school
  18. Horon
    Horon 27 November 2020 09: 20
    +4
    Only a woman can bear and give birth to a child. To continue the human race is their main purpose. A woman who seeks to surpass a man in extravagance, quickly becomes a sexless organism incapable of procreation. Take care of women men!
    1. WapentakeLokki
      WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 28
      0
      ..and how is this one .. to keep .. to replace it as a loader ..
      py.sy .. I remember an episode of Humorina about SuperGeyroya..vizhu, said Xie Zuper as the crowd in the park niggas adheres to a white girl and then defended Ya..chto eo..net I replace her !!!
  19. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 27 November 2020 09: 25
    +6
    Yeah .... I'm not a tanker, but from my point of view, an autoloader is better than a separate and specially trained crew member. And here it is not a member at all ...
    Woman-loader .... Gosspeedya ... To me, the Bundeswehr reminds me of a circus? These are the grave consequences of having a female gynecologist at the post of commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces.
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 November 2020 09: 28
    +3
    Her duties include not only loading the Leopard 2A6 gun, but also working with a 7,62 mm machine gun, if necessary, with an anti-aircraft gun. She is also responsible for radio equipment.
    And what for in a tank to paint a mug? laughing
  21. pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 27 November 2020 09: 42
    +1
    It is never boring because no two days are alike.

    The meaning of life is in the checkpoint schedule
  22. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 November 2020 09: 47
    +6
    The beginning of the 80s. BMRT of the "Pushkin" type. There is no automation at the fish factory. We go out to the basement. We had a girl in the basement, a barmaid. I called them girls from the grenadier battalion. So she is in the basement for a place to drive with capelin, put the hammers in place, very difficult physically work .. The hammer loads the cages with fish pails. 11 kg fish plus a 4 or 5 kg baking sheet. 2 cages of 44 piles in each, a total of 88 pieces. 88 pieces in less than 6 minutes. Put such a loader Leopard or Abrams in bursts. And between bursts of smoke breaks, it's sacred. So this corporal has much to strive for. wassat drinks
  23. Momotomba
    Momotomba 27 November 2020 10: 11
    +3
    Quote: Baron Pardus
    the crew fired 17 shots in 47 seconds

    Where did you end up? And the barrel didn't melt?
    1. boris epstein
      boris epstein 28 November 2020 17: 43
      0
      17 shots in 47 seconds! Yes, Goebbels will envy! Tanks and self-propelled guns with 120-155 mm cannons with automatic loaders give 7-9 rounds per minute!
      1. Momotomba
        Momotomba 28 November 2020 19: 10
        0
        And if you load 22 shots per minute with your hands, laughing
        That's just the liquid cooling you need to screw on)
  24. dgonni
    dgonni 27 November 2020 11: 06
    +1
    Yeah. And the old man MG-34, having gone through modernization and transformation with the transition to the NATO cartridge, is still used by the Deutsches!
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 18: 55
      0
      Quote: dgonni
      Yeah. And the old man MG-34, having gone through modernization and transformation with the transition to the NATO cartridge, is still used by the Deutsches!

      So it works, why fence a vegetable garden? M2 is also registered in the US Army. Yes, and our KVPT. And the DShK?
    2. WapentakeLokki
      WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 29
      +2
      .. actually it's not MG-34 but even MG-42 !!!
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        28 November 2020 05: 03
        0
        He meant the basic version, where everything came from
  25. Captain45
    Captain45 27 November 2020 11: 52
    +2
    It’s fun to serve in the Bundeswehr, do whatever you want, the majors and colonels are transforming themselves into women, they walk in their heels, clatter, women load shells into the guns. Full gender division of labor fool laughing
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 18: 56
      +2
      Quote: Captain45
      It’s fun to serve in the Bundeswehr, do whatever you want, the majors and colonels are transforming themselves into women, they walk in their heels, clatter, women load shells into the guns. Full gender division of labor fool laughing

  26. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 27 November 2020 12: 51
    +2
    Quickly looking at the first picture, I thought that this was a stern, oiled tanker, a forty-year-old man with a powerful mustache)))

    But it turned out that this is a 24-year-old lady with a smeared face for some reason)))
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 18: 57
      +1
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Quickly looking at the first picture, I thought that this was a stern, oiled tanker, a forty-year-old man with a powerful mustache)))

      But it turned out that this is a 24-year-old lady with a smeared face for some reason)))

      I didn't see it either at first. And then he shuddered. If a girl at 24 looks like a 40-year-old man, oh, how bad things are going in Germany ...
  27. Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 27 November 2020 13: 48
    0
    Well, okay. Why not? He wants to go to serve, even in tanks, even in aviation, even in ships. Who cares? Who has the right to decide who, where and which place? Each person decides for himself where he belongs and where he does not belong. And no one should care about this. And then if you read the comments here, sheer condemnation and cliché, they say there is no place for a woman ... Who said that? Who decided that? Who thinks so? Who gave such a right to whom? But what about the right to choose? Or is it not given to the female sex or partially?
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 19: 00
      -2
      Quote: Ela Myaushkina
      Who cares? Who has the right to decide who, where and which place? Each person decides for himself where he belongs and where he does not belong. And no one should care about this. And then if you read the comments here, sheer condemnation and cliché, they say there is no place for a woman ... Who said that? Who decided that? Who thinks so? Who gave such a right to whom? But what about the right to choose?

      The familiar breeze whirls ... the West pulled ...
      1. Terran ghost
        Terran ghost 27 November 2020 21: 39
        -1
        Whirls in a familiar breeze ..

        Like a familiar breeze. Medieval savagery and superstition. Hypocrisy and hypocrisy.
        PS: A small "bonus" in addition
        USSR Constitution 1977 of the year
        Article 35. A woman and a man have equal rights in the USSR.
        The realization of these rights is ensured by the provision of women with equal opportunities with men in obtaining education and vocational training, in work, remuneration for it and promotion at work, in social, political and cultural activities, as well as by special measures to protect the labor and health of women; creating conditions that allow women to combine work with motherhood; legal protection, material and moral
        support for motherhood and childhood, including the provision of paid leave and other benefits for pregnant women and mothers, a gradual reduction in the working hours of women with
        young children.
        1. Alf
          Alf 28 November 2020 19: 37
          -1
          Quote: Terran Ghost
          Whirls in a familiar breeze ..

          Like a familiar breeze. Medieval savagery and superstition. Hypocrisy and hypocrisy.
          PS: A small "bonus" in addition
          USSR Constitution 1977 of the year
          Article 35. A woman and a man have equal rights in the USSR.
          The realization of these rights is ensured by the provision of women with equal opportunities with men in obtaining education and vocational training, in work, remuneration for it and promotion at work, in social, political and cultural activities, as well as by special measures to protect the labor and health of women; creating conditions that allow women to combine work with motherhood; legal protection, material and moral
          support for motherhood and childhood, including the provision of paid leave and other benefits for pregnant women and mothers, a gradual reduction in the working hours of women with
          young children.

          But in "backward" Russia, women are usually allowed to go ahead, open the door for her, pay for her and give way. In the West this is not understood.
  28. Kushka
    Kushka 27 November 2020 13: 52
    +4
    Once the naval "intelligentsia" (BCH-4, signalmen) was sent
    get a brick from a local brick factory (by hand).
    The aunts gave us three pairs of mittens (hot brick, with ovens)
    became a chain from the oven to the gate, and we were built on the street-
    to the truck. To the middle of the body of the Urals, the chain began to give
    crashes. Then the sailors asked for a smoke break. Aunts in rude
    thick robes at the stoves were laughed at - be ashamed of the bulls
    19-year-olds - you have ONE car, and we are in front of you SEVEN
    such loaded! No smoke breaks, we have children at home ourselves.
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 19: 02
      +1
      Quote: Kushka
      Aunts in rude
      thick robes at the stoves were laughed at - be ashamed of the bulls
      19-year-olds - you have ONE car, and we are in front of you SEVEN
      such loaded!

      What are they boasting about? The fact that at 45-50 in wooden boxes will start to fit? Or are they hoping for medicine? In vain, no one has yet managed to fall in love with nature.
  29. Kushka
    Kushka 27 November 2020 13: 55
    +6
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Quickly looking at the first picture, I thought that this was a stern, oiled tanker, a forty-year-old man with a powerful mustache)))
    But it turned out that this is a 24-year-old lady with a smeared face for some reason)))


    - I am already aged, and my wife demands ...
    - And I told you, do not marry an ugly one,
    Nobody will help you.
  30. Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 27 November 2020 13: 58
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    It looks impressive.
    Why is her face smeared, I wonder?

    For the showiness of the photo.
  31. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 27 November 2020 14: 04
    +1
    If a woman is a loader in a tank, then there is a war.
  32. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 27 November 2020 15: 02
    +1
    I remembered my student years. An Austrian student from the city of Tal came to us on exchange. She looked just like this loader, and not like the girls in the ads for German beer or cars.
  33. alekswolf63
    alekswolf63 27 November 2020 15: 50
    +1
    The loading mechanism saves life, 4-1 = 3 1x3 = 3 one more crew. Platoon 3 tanks of 4 - 12 tankers, 3 tanks of 3 - 9 tankers, 3 saved lives.
  34. orionvitt
    orionvitt 27 November 2020 15: 51
    +3
    says a 24-year-old girl, explaining that she is coping with her duties
    Baby, have you been in a real war? Concussion in the tank, let's see how you cope with your duties. She likes it. laughing
  35. bogart047
    bogart047 27 November 2020 15: 55
    +1
    there are still women in German villages
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 19: 04
      +2
      Quote: bogart047
      there are still women in German villages

      They are d ... fondly called stupid.
  36. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 27 November 2020 15: 58
    +1
    Why was it smeared? Are you wearing camouflage? Or is the ink smeared? laughing Yes, with such a figure only instead of a negro ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 19: 05
      0
      Quote: Ax Matt
      Yes, with such a figure only instead of a negro ...

      So they have the same negros status of people received, in vain, in my opinion, undeservedly.
  37. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 27 November 2020 16: 29
    +1
    And how will this girl restore a broken caterpillar in battle? I would like to see!
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 November 2020 19: 07
      +1
      Quote: VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
      And how will this girl restore a broken caterpillar in battle? I would like to see!

      Call technical support. And he will sue them if it takes a long time to get there.
    2. WapentakeLokki
      WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 31
      +1
      ... and she will call the emergency gang and they will drive the tow truck and everything will be tip-top ... or not ???
      1. Alf
        Alf 28 November 2020 19: 39
        -1
        Quote: WapentakeLokki
        ... and she will call the emergency gang and they will drive the tow truck and everything will be tip-top ... or not ???

        Way calls 911.
  38. mmaxx
    mmaxx 27 November 2020 16: 46
    +3
    We cannot raise that much for women on labor protection. And this one is proud. Bravo! German women have achieved equality with hefty blacks from "Abrams"
  39. Evgeny Zadunaysky
    Evgeny Zadunaysky 27 November 2020 17: 52
    +1
    Healthy mare
  40. napalm
    napalm 27 November 2020 18: 48
    +2
    In the chest area, nothing sticks out, but in the groin area there is something.
    1. WapentakeLokki
      WapentakeLokki 27 November 2020 19: 32
      0
      ..this is her diaper .. just in case, and there are all sorts of cases ... suddenly there is a war and she is not ready .. for everything ... how the Russians start hammering 125 mm into the side and she prepared ...
  41. zxc15682
    zxc15682 27 November 2020 20: 11
    +1
    Shpaloukladchittsa .. In Russia there are restrictions on female labor in difficult conditions.
  42. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 27 November 2020 21: 28
    +2
    Well, what? Good job ... no need to think ... no need to have brains! In general, there is no mind - consider the loader! sad
  43. Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 27 November 2020 22: 04
    +3
    I once read:
    What is a "woman physicist"? It's like a guinea pig: neither a guinea pig, nor a pig.
    In my opinion, to "woman-loader" - this decoding, the same, will do.
  44. meandr51
    meandr51 28 November 2020 13: 31
    0
    The enemy would have had more of these tankers ...
  45. AB
    AB 28 November 2020 13: 35
    0
    Um, is this transgender girl? In the Bundeswehr, all sorts of crap has been going on with the staff for a long time. Back in 2017, 43-year-old ex-man turned transgender woman Anastasia Bifang led a battalion of the German army. And in 2020, the head of the battalion of the German Bundeswehr, Anastasia Bifang, who until recently was a man, was appointed an officer of the General Staff.
  46. cosmonaut
    cosmonaut 28 November 2020 14: 40
    +1
    kapets, in Germany the men are over. in fact, it's not the Arabs to hire
  47. boris epstein
    boris epstein 28 November 2020 17: 23
    +1
    "However, you should be able to equip the 23mm smoothbore cannon with 120kg rounds."
    "Leopard-2 is armed with a 120-mm smooth-bore cannon ... The gun ammunition includes 42 UNIT LOADING shots ..." "Encyclopedia of Tanks."
    120mm unitary CANNOT weigh 23 kg! The projectile (depending on which one) plus the propelling charge will at least weigh 40 kilograms. Is she the German champion in weightlifting? Throw at least 10-15 forty-kilogram unitars in one exercise, not to mention the battle! What about repairing a broken track? There you have to work with a sledgehammer and a crowbar!
    1. Ua3qhp
      Ua3qhp 28 November 2020 19: 00
      0
      They have no OFS in the BC, so the unitars are not heavier than 24 kg.
      https://ru.qaz.wiki/wiki/Rheinmetall_Rh-120
      PS
      for Baron Pardus
      it is doubtful that the new elongated projectile can be loaded into an old, not modernized cannon.
      1. Thomas N.
        Thomas N. 30 November 2020 06: 15
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        Quote: Ua3qhp
        They have no OFS in the BC, so the unitars are not heavier than 24 kg.

        They have an OFS in ammunition: 120mm HE DM 11 Tank Ammunition (https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/weapons_and_ammunition/direct_fire/large_calibre/index.php) and google more14105ewXNUMX
    2. Alf
      Alf 28 November 2020 19: 41
      -1
      Quote: Boris Epstein
      Throw at least 10-15 forty-kilogram unitars in one exercise, not to mention the battle!

      Especially when the commander shouts Schnell, Schnell ...
  48. sifgame
    sifgame 28 November 2020 20: 53
    0
    And not a woman, judging by the photo, but a woman