Russia's tasks in the Far East have changed

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This is the last article in the series about the problem of the disputed islands of the Kuril ridge. In previous articles, I talked about two players in this region, China and Japan, whose actions largely determine whether the issue of the “northern territories” will be raised again, or the situation will stabilize and the possibility of a diplomatic solution will appear. Today I will touch directly on our country - Russia.

In the press, including on the pages of "Military Review", materials about the state of military units, fortifications and fleet in the Far East. We have repeatedly talked about the problem of the small number of the local population and the outflow of young people from the eastern regions. This is all true. What our previous authorities did is really a huge betrayal, a huge damage to the state's defense.



But today we will talk about the strategic tasks that Russia is solving today. About why, even in such a state that has not yet been fully restored, the defense of this region is able to fulfill the immediate task and provide an opportunity to give a decent response to any aggressor with the forces of the Russian army. It's about exactly how strategy can keep tactics from making foolish moves.

The results of the great betrayal


I understand that the reader expects clear formulations and conclusions from me, and not stories and fables, but I will start with stories, which an old hunter-fisherman told me at a hut in the Siberian taiga. It seems to me that it is very similar to the story that we have recently experienced.

Once in the life of every bear, an event happens, the nature of which still no one can explain. In the spring, after hibernation, she brings out the cubs born in winter. Small lumps all summer wander after mom, feed on her milk, grow, taste adult food. So much so that after the next hibernation, the mother bear brings out already strong cubs, almost adolescents.

But it also happens that after the second hibernation, the cubs wake up as small as they lay in the den. Why this happens, even the elderly do not know. And again, all summer long the cubs follow their mother, drink, eat, grow up, but do not grow. Only from somewhere does their tail appear. And seeing that the cubs do not at all look like bears, the bear does not let them sleep for the third hibernation. Kicks it out. And these bear cubs wander through the forest all winter, angry and hungry.

From bears they only have a child's face and huge adult paws. The regrown tail made the bodies a little like badgers. And most importantly, they believe - if they eat a lot, they will someday grow into big and strong bears. Will grow up and return to their mother. And for this frantic appetite, for not being afraid to take away prey even from bears and packs of wolves, for the fact that they can kill even an elk alone, they nicknamed these small, by northern standards, a meter long, up to 60 cm high and 20 kg weight - taiga gluttons ...

I saw a wolverine once in my life, and even then through my binoculars, when she waddled funny at the edge of the forest on her business. Clumsy, with huge paws and a kind of "gait" - amble. By the way, the hunter also told me about this feature. It turns out that she learned how to walk because of her paws. So it jumps now, somehow sideways.

And taiga people always have a sign when they see another person: walking like a wolverine - he had a long journey! I tried to go like this. True, the speed increases significantly, although you look silly from the outside. No wonder that 50-80 kilometers a day is not the limit for this kid. Even in the snow in winter.

Does this story remind you of the recent history of Russia? We were also born in a pack of "bears". And in the same way, we did not become bears today. We were betrayed by those who should have been ahead. We were robbed by those who were supposed to increase our wealth. We were deceived by those who for many years kept repeating about friendship and love for us, about the desire to make our life a paradise ... We did not grow into bears. But we want to be bears ...

Great betrayal affected everyone and everything. It especially affected the service people. Those who deceived us absolutely did not want us to grow up and become the owners of the forest again. A strong Russian army, strong special services, a strong state - we were not supposed to do all this. We had to become what everyone who came to us could not achieve during the millennium of the existence of Rus. We were to become dumb cattle, slaves who would work for glass beads for the great Americans and Europeans.

I will not tell you how much, what and where was destroyed, thrown, plundered and left in the new states. Each of the readers still has these facts before their eyes or in their memory. Break not build. They broke it quickly and with understanding. Broke what is difficult to restore. We broke something without which we turned not even into a regional power, but into a third world country.

And they achieved their goal. The humiliation that we experienced in the 90s will probably never be forgotten. As well as a hundred bush chicken dishes. Like the emergence of a lot of "cool electronics". All their Panasonic, Sonic, Phillips, who were in every family, sparkled with all the colors of their own color music and worked until scattering, in the literal sense of the word, for a couple of months.

We need a lot


If you open any media today, it turns out that we urgently need something. We urgently need to build a high-quality infrastructure, we need to raise the wages of state employees, we need to increase the pay for servicemen and security officials. We need to increase pensions. We need to build hospitals, schools, kindergartens ... In short, we need, we need, we need ...

We need to re-equip the army even more. Probably, there is no person who would not have heard the question, for example, about "Armata". Why are our tankers still armed with T-72 and T-90? Where thousands of new tanks? Why do our pilots fly in cars of the 3-4th generation when there is already the 5th? And so on for any position.

By the way, oppositionists of all stripes make good use of this. I mean the famous "why are we doing this, it is better to distribute these funds to old women so that they heal like queens."

If we return to the analogy that I drew above, today we are the very wolverine that should always be eaten. But there is something permanently impossible. Not because the volume of the abdomen does not allow, but because food must still be earned, found, walked a couple of tens of kilometers, tracked down and caught. And this also requires strength, which means, again, food.

It is understandable that we want to once again become as powerful a power as the Soviet Union was. But another thing is also clear - we will not be able to do this in the near future. We do not have such human, economic and military resources. We are a huge but sparsely populated country located in difficult climatic and geographical regions. Hence the periodic statements of our foreign "partners" that it is necessary to divide Siberia, change the status of Lake Baikal, develop jointly the North and so on.

Russia in the Far East


Russia's strategy in the Far East has long been clearly formulated at the highest level. It is enough to read the military doctrine of Russia to understand this. We act today in much the same way as a wolverine. Its grounds are quite huge - 180-200 square kilometers per male. The male allows two or three females to live in his lands. And that's all. The rest have nothing to do there. Fights even with their own grown children in wolverines are fatal. Either you leave, or I eat you.

Let's look at the main idea of ​​the doctrine.

The use of military force is possible only when the possibilities of using political, diplomatic, legal, economic, informational and other means of influence have been completely exhausted.

Yes, other predators also enter the territory of the wolverine. And then she shows teeth and claws. He does not fight, but drives out a bear or a pack of wolves. Moreover, it takes away their prey.

But if the wolves or the bear do not understand why they have to leave, then a serious fight begins, which often ends in serious injuries or even death of the aggressor. A little beast with a "cute face" simply does not know that there is such a feeling - fear. And weapons, the thickness of the skin, which is three times thicker than a bear's, teeth that can grind bones like a hyena, claws ten centimeters long, hair that does not get wet in water, endurance and speed - these outstanding qualities help to solve any problem.

Under the new conditions, the tasks of the army and navy in this region have changed. Today we need to defend our own territory, Kamchatka, the Kuriles, the Bering Strait and Vladivostok. There is enough strength for this. Of course, in memory of the USSR, we would like to periodically show our teeth in a southerly direction, but, alas, our power is not enough for this today.

But no one removed the task of striking force in the event of a nuclear war from the fleet. Surface ships and submarines must ensure the delivery of a nuclear strike against the enemy in a short time and from short distances. If we look at what has been happening in this regard in recent years, we can conclude that quite a lot of attention is paid to this particular side of Russia's defense.

Naturally, the question arises as to whether we are sliding into the situation that existed in this region at the beginning of the last century? When Japan was a truly "unsinkable battleship", and the Japanese navy perfectly took advantage of the availability of convenient bases and ports where it was possible to quickly replenish supplies of coal and ammunition, and in case of danger, hide under the protection of coastal batteries.

After all, the delivery of a nuclear strike is a problem not only of the target, but also of the target. The answer should be as far as possible by the means by which the attack is carried out. For example, the delivery of a nuclear strike on the territory of Japan will cause a response from other nuclear powers in connection with the death of citizens of these countries. And there…

The answer is again in our doctrine. I won't even decipher it. Everything is clear and understandable.

Massive use of weapons systems and military equipment, high-precision, hypersonic weapons, electronic warfare equipment, weapons based on new physical principles, comparable in efficiency to nuclear weapons, information control systems, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles and autonomous marine vehicles, guided robotic weapons and military equipment.

I think that these words also encode the tasks of the army and navy for the next period.

Conclusion


Today, when the situation in the world is changing rapidly, it is necessary to move away from the views of the last century. The world is different, the war is different, the confrontation is different, the tasks of the army are different.

As much as we would not like, in the coming decades we will not be able to take the place corresponding to the Soviet Union in the world hierarchy of countries. Russia's potential today is much less than the potential of the USSR. Less in many ways. In the future, we need to increase it. How? I have no answer. Perhaps by restoring the USSR in a new format, at least partially. This is the shortest-term option.

There is also a long-term one. The increase in the birth rate, the development of the economy, the creation of a state where not illiterate guest workers would strive, but the best scientists and engineers in the world, and so on. Is it possible? Why not? Only history shows that in this case, most likely, we will have to show our teeth again or even fight to the death.

As for the Far East, today a struggle is unfolding there between the United States and the PRC. The reasons for this struggle are about the same as the confrontation between Russia and the United States. Control over trade routes. But it's easier for us. The Americans do not yet have the opportunity to seriously claim the Northern Sea Route. Simply because there is no such fleet in the United States. But with China, the situation is exactly the opposite. The trade route to the Indian Ocean is controlled by the United States, and China is trying to squeeze them out of this region.

And I will end again by telling the story of the old hunter to the end. I'll just end because many people have questions. If a glutton eats so much to grow into a bear, have there been cases when he succeeded?

Yes, it also happens that some gluttons still find enough food in the taiga to grow into a big bear. But if this happens, woe to all living things, and the hunter who invaded the territory of this bear. Nature is not easy to defeat. This bear does not lie down in a den for the winter. So it wanders through the taiga all winter, killing all living things that meet on its way. They call it that - connecting rod.

And only if it survives this winter and waits for spring, it becomes a real bear as we know it. You will meet such one in the taiga, he will look at you and leave on his way. Unless, of course, this is a mother with cubs. Mothers don't leave. They attack. Children are protected. But this is understandable - we live for the sake of children.
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  1. +92
    30 November 2020 05: 41
    What our previous authorities did is indeed a huge betrayal
    And what are the current authorities doing, what is it? The outflow of the population from the Far East, as it went in the 90s, does not stop to this day. Moreover, in the percentage ratio, there is no particular difference - that with EBN, that with GDP.
    We were to become dumb cattle, slaves who would work for glass beads for the great Americans and Europeans
    practically the entire economy of the country is now geared towards serving the "great Americans and Europeans." This has already been achieved. The author does not see this? And yes, the people are silent ...
    another thing is also clear - we will not be able to do this in the near future. We do not have such human, economic and military resources
    Great excuse! Only ... the Union started with about the same population. But economically and militarily, it lagged behind by orders of magnitude more. And he did not have a vigorous shield, behind which you can safely hide enough to solve your problems. But in 20 years the Union was able to prepare for the Second World War. And we - we will not be able to do this in the near future. We still have to wait ... How much? another 20 Putin years? Or will that not be enough? After all, our great strategist is just warming up.
    We act today in much the same way as a wolverine
    In short, everything. Change the totem from a bear to a wolverine. EdRu will have to rebrand. Millions of commercials for 500 evergreen money.
    As much as we would like, in the coming decades we will not be able to take the place corresponding to the Soviet Union in the world hierarchy of countries
    But I do not even doubt this - with such characters at the top, we will not shine.
    I want to ask the author about one thing: so what tasks does Russia set for itself in the Far East? I was born here, I live, I am already under fifty dollars - and I can say that I do not see that Russia really set itself any tasks here, and most importantly - tried to solve them. No, there is a lot of gibberish - especially in this magnificent One who cannot be called. But there are no real deeds. Well, except for the siphoning of resources, and, as I said, in a foreign country.
    1. -40
      30 November 2020 06: 24
      Quote: Dalny V
      And what are the current authorities doing, what is it? The outflow of the population from the Far East, as it went in the 90s, does not stop to this day. Moreover, in the percentage ratio, there is no particular difference - that with EBN, that with GDP

      In percentage terms, this is fine, but if so, it turns out that it does not grow. I don’t remember any particular influx even in the late USSR, will you correct me?
      Quote: Dalny V
      practically the entire economy of the country is now geared towards serving the "great Americans and Europeans." This has already been achieved. The author does not see this? And yes, the people are silent ...

      Globalization, WTO .... EAF ... So we need to return to protectionism? Close for foreign goods? And what to do with ours then? Maybe we will stop selling Titan to Boeing? Or was it not during the USSR that "Friendship" was built? And started this practice at all?
      Quote: Dalny V
      Great excuse! Only ... the Union started with about the same population. But economically and militarily, it lagged behind by orders of magnitude more. And he did not have a vigorous shield, behind which you can safely hide enough to solve your problems. But in 20 years the Union was able to prepare for the Second World War. And we - we will not be able to do this in the near future. We still have to wait ... How much? another 20 Putin years? Or will that not be enough? After all, our great strategist is just warming up.

      God forbid go like the USSR, then we will need a Civil and 2 world wars. By the way, the population of the Republic of Ingushetia was larger in number than the population of the Russian Federation (of course, we remember about Poland and Finland ... which the USSR allowed to float freely?)
      Quote: Dalny V
      In short, everything. Change the totem from a bear to a wolverine. EdRu will have to rebrand. Millions of commercials for 500 evergreen money.
      Let's not return the Hammer and Sickle ... the same rebranding and the same 500 but in a different pocket? How are the current communists different from Edra? Hunger.
      Quote: Dalny V
      But I do not even doubt this - with such characters at the top, we will not shine.
      I want to ask the author about one thing: so what tasks does Russia set for itself in the Far East? I was born here, I live, I am already under fifty dollars - and I can say that I do not see that Russia really set itself any tasks here, and most importantly - tried to solve them. No, there is a lot of gibberish - especially in this magnificent One who cannot be called. But there are no real deeds. Well, except for the siphoning of resources, and, as I said, in a foreign country.

      In the late USSR, they set themselves the tasks of a) the fight against alcoholism ... (and where did it come from in the USSR at all?) B) "perestroika". I would like to clarify, the result is visible?
      1. +38
        30 November 2020 06: 37
        I don’t remember any particular influx even in the late USSR, correct me?
        Excuse me, do you have the Internet at hand? Well, look, at least, table number 1 in the godless Vicky, in the article "The Far East of Russia". 1985 - 7,5 million people, 1991 - 8 million people. 7-8% growth over six years is not a big increase, is it?
        So should we go back to protectionism?
        You talk like it’s something bad, yeah. By the way, tell Omerik about this, they will laugh.
        By the way, the population of Ingushetia was larger than the population of the Russian Federation
        And what will be there in terms of population density, eh?
        of course we remember about Poland and Finland .. which the USSR let go to free swimming?
        If you please live in an alternate reality, as I can see?
        Let's not return the Hammer and Sickle ... the same rebranding and the same 500 but in a different pocket?
        Powerful argument. From the series Sam d u cancer. Yeah. You know how to conduct a discussion.
        In the late USSR, they set themselves the tasks of a) the fight against alcoholism ... (and where did it come from in the USSR at all?) B) "perestroika". I would like to clarify, the result is visible?
        The conclusion is clear: to set any tasks for the country is undoubted evil and clearly threatens the collapse of both the economy and the country.
        1. +2
          30 November 2020 11: 13
          "in the article" The Far East of Russia ". 1985 - 7,5 million people, 1991 - 8 million people. 7-8% growth in six years is not a special increase, is it?"
          no, this is not an increase, it is still a rollback from the USSR. but in 2018 there were 6165000 people, however, in 2019 it was already 8188000, in a year they increased by 2 million, although, in my opinion, the commander of the Rosstat was changed, no?
        2. 0
          2 December 2020 19: 18
          Quote: Dalny V
          Excuse me, do you have the Internet at hand? Well, look, at least, table number 1 in the godless Vicky, in the article "The Far East of Russia". 1985 - 7,5 million people, 1991 - 8 million people. 7-8% growth over six years is not a big increase, is it?

          Here is an adult, and appeals to Vika ... and below me he is reproached for argumentation. But let's continue to use Vika and compare the population in, say, 1905 and 1911?

          Quote: Dalny V
          You talk like it’s something bad, yeah. By the way, tell Omerik about this, they will laugh.

          The Americans are laughing a lot from what. Will we be like them? How are the damned capitalists? Well, OK. In fact, I think that within reasonable limits it is necessary (protectionism)

          Quote: Dalny V
          And what will be there in terms of population density, eh?

          Compared to density .... It's beautiful.
          Quote: Dalny V
          If you please live in an alternate reality, as I can see?

          "Declaration of the rights of the peoples of Russia" in 1917 signed by comrade Dzhugashvili .... Doesn't exist in your reality? Or "2. The right of the peoples of Russia to free self-determination, up to the separation and formation of an independent state." Can you understand it in some other way?

          Quote: Dalny V
          Powerful argument. From the series Sam d u cancer. Yeah. You know how to conduct a discussion.

          You know, you can disagree, but I do not see any differences between the communists and edros, except for the names and "loud slogans" Can you give a couple of "Powerful differences"?
          Quote: Dalny V
          The conclusion is clear: to set any tasks for the country is undoubted evil and clearly threatens the collapse of both the economy and the country.
          The conclusion is obvious - instead of a discussion, putting an owl on the "USSR globe".
      2. +28
        30 November 2020 06: 51
        Quote: Sunstorm
        In percentage terms, this is fine, but if so, it turns out that it does not grow. I don’t remember any particular influx even in the late USSR, will you correct me?

        Now the Far East are hostages of the system, having no funds for migration within the country.
        1. +6
          30 November 2020 11: 16
          "Now the Far East are hostages of the system, having no funds for migration within the country."
          Well, that is, now the Far East is a region in which you cannot live or develop it, just run?
      3. +29
        30 November 2020 07: 09
        Sunstorm
        "So we need to return to protectionism?" To one degree or another, everyone is now resorting to protectionism - what do you think is "sanctions"?
        "Chuch-he" is certainly not an option, but the question is - is it not destiny to simply put the withdrawal of currency from the country under control, as is done in decent countries? Or "owners" do not allow?
        Everyone knows that one of the main responsibilities of the Central Bank of the country is to supervise the activities of commercial banks. And as if suddenly, with this supervision, it turns out that from some bank all depositors' funds have been withdrawn "over the hill", that is, stolen. The huge amounts were not stolen in one day, that is, the process went on for a long time and no one (!), Neither the Cetrobank nor the prosecutor's office nor the FSB saw anything?
        And when everything has already been taken out, here - "atas, gevolt, alarm" - the license is taken away and away we go.
        Okay, the Russian Federation is a specific country, they could really have missed out on another one ... but when it is not one or three, but 300 banks done "under the vigilant control" of the Central Bank, financial monitoring and other numerous guardians - then, sorry, this is already a system.
        What can be the development of a country that is so robbed? And you - "globalization", the WTO - there is no need to try to justify the long-term plundering of the country by "being built into the world economy" - for example - Singapore is a full-fledged participant in world economic processes - and not stealing there. Maybe we were "embedded" on the wrong side from which one is needed?
        1. +21
          30 November 2020 07: 22
          Quote: Nazar
          "So we need to go back to protectionism?"

          No, we must go back to SOCIALISM
          1. +8
            30 November 2020 07: 58
            BDRM 667 - You answer me, and quote Sunstorm hi
            This is what I answered to his question about "protectionism". And I completely agree with your proposal, I would be younger, and I would take part in the "process", well, "when it starts" wink
            1. +4
              30 November 2020 08: 02
              Quote: Nazar
              BDRM 667 - You answer me, and quote Sunstorm

              This would not have happened if you filled out your comment properly, indicating that this is a quote by "VO tools"

              or in some other way.
              1. +6
                30 November 2020 08: 45
                BDRM 667 -: remark accepted Yes I will arrange my writings more carefully.
          2. +9
            30 November 2020 08: 15
            Quote: BDRM 667
            No, we must return to SOCIALISM

            That's right!
          3. -5
            30 November 2020 19: 24
            We had socialism?
          4. -1
            1 December 2020 17: 33
            We must not return to "isms", but to common sense. First, Khrushch, then Gorbi, crushed and cut the army. Are they not fighters for socialism and communism? What about the general secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee ... But what about the first secretary of the Moscow City Committee of the CPSU, Boris Piany? it will take a very long time to get out of the hole into which these "loyal Leninists" pushed us.
            1. +2
              2 December 2020 14: 36
              Quote: georgiigennadievitch
              smashed and cut Khrushch, then Gorbi. Ali not fighters for socialism and communism? What about the general secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee ... But what about the first secretary of the Moscow City Committee of the CPSU Borya Piany? the Leninists "pushed in.

              If your appendix is ​​inflamed, this is not a reason to remove all the intestines with the liver-spleen.
              Yes, criminals have crept into power. But this is not a reason to destroy all power and the country.
        2. +9
          30 November 2020 11: 49
          Everyone knows that one of the main responsibilities of the Central Bank of the country is to supervise the activities of commercial banks. And as if suddenly, with this supervision, it turns out that from some bank all depositors' funds have been withdrawn "over the hill", that is, stolen. The huge amounts were not stolen in one day, that is, the process went on for a long time and no one (!), Neither the Cetrobank nor the prosecutor's office nor the FSB saw anything?
          Colleague. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is just a structural division of the US Federal Reserve. And as a "head", he does not obey either the government or the president of the Russian Federation. Read the law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation on the Internet. There will be many "discoveries" wonderful in the financial system of the Russian Federation. Therefore, NOBODY and NEVER stopped and will not stop the export of capital. This is inherent in the system itself. Where, then, can the "masters of life" fornicate, if not abroad? And how to list the tribute that the Russian Federation pays? Only by exporting capital.
          1. +10
            30 November 2020 11: 58
            AKuzenka - Colleague, I absolutely agree with you, and not only the Central Bank, in general, the entire leadership of the country is becoming more and more like an occupation administration.
            The question in the article is raised about the development of the Far East - so I tried to give just one reason - the direct robbery of the country by the same Central Bank - for which there can be no development (not only of the Far East, but of the entire country) even theoretically. hi
            1. 0
              1 December 2020 09: 17
              Thanks for the flattering answer. It's not even about the "occupation" administration. The matter is broader - there is no other capitalist system. Especially if one cap. the country is robbing other caps. country. And "our" capitalists, who are only the conductors of the interests of that very one country, do not forget themselves. After all, their wallets are "there". Therefore, the robbery of citizens is only gaining momentum. And nothing else but a war will end. And this future war will be even more cruel than the Great Patriotic War. Citizens will be driven to the front by force, because no one wants to fight for yachts and children of oligarchs. And in the west, their cannon fodder will be promised land in the east (west) and slaves, as it was already. Perhaps from the European Arabs they will form detachments, urge the burghers into the attack. hi
              1. +2
                1 December 2020 10: 30
                AKuzenka - Colleague, and with this I can only completely agree Yes The only thing I can add is that war is still an extreme case, albeit quite probable, and "these" will try to do without war, in our usual sense of the word. The fact that this is possible is confirmed by the example of our Motherland, the USSR. The most powerful Armed Forces, nuclear weapons - nothing saved - they were destroyed practically without a single shot. It seems to me that this is even worse than a direct war, everything is clear there - here is the enemy, beat him ... and here ...
      4. +25
        30 November 2020 07: 35
        Quote: Sunstorm
        I don’t remember any particular influx even in the late USSR, correct me?

        Not late? Why split? Under the USSR, whole cities grew up! And global construction projects! BAM, Angara, Ust-Ilim ... Oil, gas, coal, electricity ... Everything from Siberia comes thanks to the USSR!

        But if earlier it all went in the first place for themselves, for the people, now the priority is different. First of all, abroad for partners and money in their own pockets (in offshore companies, which also have partners). That's all Putin's "achievements".
        1. -15
          30 November 2020 09: 56
          Under the USSR, entire cities grew up!

          Due to what, and most importantly, whom did they grow up? And the fact that already in the late USSR was the decline in population should be reminded? The fact that many new cities grew due to the migration of the working-age population from the Central regions? Have you heard anything about the enlargement of settlements during the Soviet era and what was the reason? And the fact that in the Central regions of the village and farm disappeared hopefully in the know? And in the course that the development of the Far East, North and Siberia was carried out at the expense of subsidies? Why should a resident of the Central Region receive less for the same work? Many problems were created and not resolved even under the USSR, maybe it is not necessary to refer to the USSR as an authority, especially in those issues where it was he who created modern problems!
          1. +3
            2 December 2020 09: 42
            the same work can be in Moscow and Vladimir, and even now. but for some reason he is not the same ... especially in the capital. she probably moved to the region of the far north ??? but about the decline in population ... give the alignment ... I now know .. the result of the 1989 census and the penultimate in the USSR.
            1. 0
              2 December 2020 10: 39
              If you lived then, you simply would not ask such stupid questions! winked They began to enlarge the villages at the beginning of Brezhnev's rule, as young people were needed at the "construction sites of socialism". And they started talking about the fall in the birth rate back in the early 80s - I already witnessed this. Population growth has become so small that it barely compensated for the decline. By the end of the 80s, births and deaths were almost equal. And this happened against the backdrop of an increase in life expectancy. But even then, the birth rate statistics were at the expense of the Asian republics. This was discussed in newspapers and at lectures in educational institutions. I got this information on the Internet - I don't know.
              the same work can be in Moscow and Vladimir, and even now. but for some reason it is not the same ... especially in the capital. she probably moved to the region of the far north ??

              Moscow and under the Soviet Union lived in a different measurement system. winked
        2. -8
          30 November 2020 20: 49
          Of course, they have grown - especially monotowns have poked a lot of money and more, and now there are no city-forming enterprises there, or they are breathing in good order because their products are not needed by anyone or do not provide costs for their production, or in general the raw materials that were mined on the spot and the maintenance of these cities are dying out in the USSR they did not know how to look at the future in this regard.
          1. +14
            30 November 2020 20: 59
            Quote: Vadim237
            they breathe in frenzy because nobody needs their products

            But it was needed under the USSR! The fact that now, all of a sudden, products have become unnecessary is not a problem for the USSR, but for modern "effective" managers. What does the USSR have to do with it?

            Quote: Vadim237
            in the USSR they did not know how to look at the future in this regard

            For what perspective? The fact that the bourgeoisie will not need Soviet achievements ??
            Yes. This question was not even considered!
        3. 0
          2 December 2020 18: 43
          Quote: Stas157
          Not late? Why split? Under the USSR, whole cities grew up! And global construction projects! BAM, Angara, Ust-Ilim ... Oil, gas, coal, electricity ... Everything from Siberia comes thanks to the USSR!
          Under the Emperors ... and the Tsars, a lot of things grew and was built ... so why divide? Were you successful and not so successful? For this, in the USSR it is necessary to separate, so as not to live in the illusion that "the USSR is ideal and everyone is eager to jump into it"
          Quote: Stas157
          But if earlier it all went in the first place for themselves, for the people, now the priority is different. First of all, abroad for partners and money in their own pockets (in offshore companies, which also have partners). That's all Putin's "achievements".

          I remember such a character as Alexander Menshikov .. and, after all, the infection is all in your pocket, everything is for the people ... And according to Pyotr Alekseevich, in general, "the first swindler and the swindler" and what state he made for himself ... ... But still?
          1. +4
            2 December 2020 22: 17
            Quote: Sunstorm
            Under the Emperors ... and the Tsars, a lot of things grew and was built ... so why divide?

            Do you want to unite autocracy with socialism or what? I didn't understand you at all!

            Quote: Sunstorm
            I remember a character like Alexander Menshikov ..

            And what does Menshikov have to do with it? Either you are trying to pull an owl, or you are wandering in thought somewhere.
            1. 0
              3 December 2020 16: 47
              Quote: Stas157
              Do you want to unite autocracy with socialism or what? I didn't understand you at all!
              Under the Emperors ... yes the Tsars, a lot of things grew and was built ... so why divide? Were you successful and not so successful? For this, in the USSR it is necessary to separate, so as not to live in the illusion that "the USSR is ideal and everyone is eager to jump into it" .. How else can I make you understand that the USSR is different in different years? Depending on do not believe .. the leader.
              Quote: Stas157
              And what does Menshikov have to do with it? Either you are trying to pull an owl, or you are wandering in thought somewhere.

              Despite the fact that thieves and corrupt officials have always been and will always be. But some of them are very useful. Do you want to say that under the USSR (leaders) did not put it in their pocket?) And how are the families of former party apparatus in the CIS and beyond the hillock attached ... you can write a separate study. All the most terrible thieves and corruptionists of the 90s received 1) Soviet education 2) Soviet education. Gorbachev is 100% Soviet-made product, Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais. But we will blame Putin. And not the Soviet system, which by the 90s had long turned into "God knows what."
      5. +4
        30 November 2020 12: 51
        Quote: Sunstorm
        God forbid to go like the USSR ... In the late USSR they set themselves the tasks of a) the fight against alcoholism ... (and where did it come from in the USSR at all?) B) "perestroika". I would like to clarify, the result is visible?
        All adherents of Marxism know that the criterion for the truth of a theory is social and historical practice. But they do not want to question the truth of Marx's theory in accordance with the results of this practice. Stalin, faced in practice with such a discrepancy, could say "Engels did not understand a damn thing about production and confused us." These same people do not have the task of building a new society and even organizing a world revolution. They use the phraseology of Marxism to look smarter and get into power, as was customary in the USSR, especially after the death of Stalin, when the risk and responsibility associated with high positions practically rushed to zero. Or they are used for the same purpose. Therefore, you cannot criticize Marxism, but voters must believe that they are pure and bright, like, for example, Platoshkin. And who else would be selected by the Foreign Ministry under Shevardnadze and Kozyrev, only such elves.
        1. -2
          30 November 2020 19: 27
          Quote: sniperino
          But they do not want to question the truth of Marx's theory in accordance with the results of this practice.

          Because nothing similar to Marx's theory was realized in the 20th century.
          1. -1
            30 November 2020 19: 31
            Quote: syndicalist
            Quote: sniperino
            But they do not want to question the truth of Marx's theory in accordance with the results of this practice.
            Because nothing similar to Marx's theory was realized in the 20th century.
            Do you believe that someday everything will be so, as Marx wrote in the Program, and not as in Lenin's? A Trotskyist by conviction, not for fun?
          2. +1
            30 November 2020 20: 51
            "Because nothing similar to Marx's theory was realized in the 20th century." It will never be realized as it is a beautiful fantastic utopia.
            1. 0
              1 December 2020 11: 42
              Quote: Vadim237
              It will never be realized as it is a beautiful fantastic utopia.

              In other words, capitalism is the pinnacle of human civilization, do you suppose?
              1. 0
                2 December 2020 18: 45
                It is somewhat presumptuous and probably premature to judge about the pinnacle of human civilization.
      6. 0
        3 December 2020 21: 10
        Quote: Sunstorm
        I would like to clarify, the result is visible?


        There are many letters in the article.
        In general, the people are inert ...
    2. +17
      30 November 2020 06: 25
      Yes, other predators also enter the territory of the wolverine. And then she shows teeth and claws. He does not fight, but drives out a bear or a pack of wolves. Moreover, it takes away their prey.

      Partially so, but it should be noted that, referring to the family of weasels, adult males of wolverines weigh up to 15-20 kg, and females do up to 10 ... that this predator is a loner ...

      But this beast has a different defense-weapon - a unique aroma exuded by special pre-anal glands, for which they are sometimes called "skunk bear".
      1. +11
        30 November 2020 07: 16
        BDRM 667 - in his youth he worked in the north of Western Siberia, built oil pipelines in the taiga, saw wolverines several times, mostly from afar, the animal is very cunning and cautious, does not allow it close, but once accidentally stumbled almost point-blank - the animal ran away of course, but that I still remember what you called "unique aroma", although decades have passed - the impression of that meeting does not fade in my memory laughing
    3. +14
      30 November 2020 07: 11
      Perhaps by restoring the USSR in a new format, at least partially. This is the shortest-term option.

      The attack on neighboring countries did not cause the creation of the USSR-2, since Russia did not offer anything attractive from a socio-economic point of view.
      There is also a long-term one. The increase in the birth rate, the development of the economy, the creation of a state where not illiterate guest workers would strive, but the best scientists and engineers in the world, and so on.

      The answer is the same, there is no attractive socio-economic model for the development of society.

      It turns out to offer some kind of game. "Come to us, we have better oligarchs than yours, otherwise you will get by the horns" or "let's create the USSR-2, our and your elites still hold assets in the West", or, in general, the feudal "our Bryansk governor is better than your Vitebsk satrap "...
      1. -19
        30 November 2020 09: 40
        The attack on neighboring countries did not cause the creation of the USSR-2

        And who did Russia attack? To Ukraine or what? Didn't you confuse the resource, my friend? You need the Censor, everything about the Russian attack is being blamed!
        PS These are the "Russian oppositionists" that arouse disgust for any opposition.
        1. -7
          30 November 2020 13: 26
          Quote: Horon
          You need to Censor
          If Pan Ataman had a gold reserve ...
      2. 0
        30 November 2020 11: 59
        Quote: Civil
        It turns out to offer some kind of game.

        The author offers a long-term option. Only it is not clear whether the option "show teeth or even fight to the death" is aimed at obstacles that exist within the country, or at an external factor. In my opinion, this refers to domestic politics.
        There is also a long-term one. The increase in the birth rate, the development of the economy, the creation of a state where not illiterate guest workers would strive, but the best scientists and engineers in the world, and so on. Is it possible? Why not? Only history shows that in this case, most likely, we will have to show our teeth again or even fight to the death.
      3. 0
        2 December 2020 18: 51
        Quote: Civil
        The attack on neighboring countries did not cause the creation of the USSR-2, since Russia did not offer anything attractive from a socio-economic point of view.

        It is not particularly noticeable that the United States would offer "buns of the social-economic" character to the same Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus. Let me suggest that a carrot in the form of "material incentives" (which could be considered cheap oil and gas ... for example for Belarus) is not as important as a carrot of a "spiritual or cultural sense."
        However, there is an even simpler explanation, as if they did not flatter themselves, but the USSR was an "Empire" (even if not an "empire of evil", but still). And in the post-Soviet space, due to the initial impulse of the 90s, the process of "Wars of the Diadochus" is taking place
    4. -6
      30 November 2020 11: 03
      The USSR drove all the resources over the hill, moreover, it collapsed because of the cheapness, I now live in the Baltic States, I can understand that at 90 we were asked here for pro forma, they decided without us, independence, but those who remained in Russia, strange people, for the USSR not who tore their asses as in Khabarovsk for a thief, so what are you talking about, Yeltsin, bad, humpbacked too, full of aless, Putin is also not the one, but who is the one who ?????! !
      1. +2
        1 December 2020 10: 19
        Quote: Magnat231
        The USSR drove all the resources over the hill, moreover, it collapsed because of the cheapness, I now live in the Baltic States, I can understand that at 90 we were asked here for pro forma, they decided without us, independence, but those who remained in Russia, strange people, for the USSR not who tore their asses as in Khabarovsk for a thief, so what are you talking about, Yeltsin, bad, humpbacked too, full of aless, Putin is also not the one, but who is the one who ?????! !

        Putin was the one for the majority until 2015, when people saw prices soaring and incomes falling. And then everything went off, even in this group in the years 2014-2015 they sang praises to Putin. As the savior of the Russians whom the USSR wants to return, yeah.
      2. -1
        3 December 2020 08: 15
        In Khabarovsk for a thief ... You say that two events: the arrest of Furgal and the collapse of the USSR happened simultaneously. Nothing that 30 years difference between events? And people during this time were not just re-educated, but also new ones raised? Those who were betrayed by the collapse of the USSR and did not even believe in the reality of what was happening and those who go crazy there in Furgal's ecstasy are different peoples.
    5. +11
      30 November 2020 12: 04
      Quote: Dalny V
      Change the totem from a bear to a wolverine.

      There is little obscurantism in our time ... So the author of the article compares people with animals. Like, we are like wolverines ...
      But in general, a typical "Staverovskaya" article - There are problems, there is a solution, until we can do everything, everything that we can - must be done. We cannot cope ourselves - we will attract wolverines, bears and wolves. The main thing is to be patient and not shake ...
      1. -2
        30 November 2020 13: 33
        Quote: Hyperion
        There is little obscurantism in our time ... So the author of the article compares people with animals. Like we are like wolverines
        Not all. Some can be compared with woodpeckers: the bird is proud, it can easily shit on its head and knock without concussion.
        1. +5
          30 November 2020 15: 28
          Quote: sniperino
          Some can be compared with woodpeckers

          Some you can, and some you need. Sorry that your totem was not mentioned, but I wrote that you need to humanize, and not associate yourself with animals.
          1. 0
            30 November 2020 15: 38
            Quote: Hyperion
            it is necessary to humanize, and not to associate oneself with animals
            To humanize, one must treat one's neighbor as oneself, and forbid metaphors with an animal, so one must destroy a good part of culture, the "shining" God.
            1. +6
              30 November 2020 15: 46
              Quote: sniperino
              you need to treat your neighbor as yourself

              This golden rule either works both ways or doesn't work at all.
              1. 0
                30 November 2020 15: 50
                Quote: Hyperion
                Quote: sniperino
                you need to treat your neighbor as yourself

                This golden rule either works both ways or doesn't work at all.
                It is not the rule that works, but the person. People are different.
                1. +4
                  30 November 2020 15: 56
                  Quote: sniperino
                  It is not the rule that works, but the person. People are different.

                  If the rule works, then different people are "averaged" under the rule. This is how the laws of the state work, for example. At least they should work.
    6. +4
      30 November 2020 12: 50
      I want to ask the author about one thing: so what tasks does Russia set for itself in the Far East?

      The article is not about that.
      An article about it. laughing

    7. +3
      30 November 2020 16: 36
      Dalny V (Mikhail). How it does not shine if the current authorities reassured the West that the money is there, the children are there. Be calm, we will not defend ourselves, it will be as it was under Hitler in the occupied territories, just put a stick, a whip, or a berdank in your hands. Therefore, in Russia, not the militia, but the police, not the internal troops, but the semblance of the gendarmerie, or the German SA.
    8. -3
      30 November 2020 20: 40
      “Almost the entire economy of the country is now focused on serving the“ great Americans and Europeans. ”This has already been achieved. The author does not see this? And yes, the people are silent ...“ Russia is trading with 70 countries - stop talking about the United States and the West.
      1. +2
        1 December 2020 10: 20
        Until 2014, the main investors who invested in the Russian Federation were from Europe, or rather Germans. Now it's hard for us without their money.
  2. +25
    30 November 2020 05: 45
    I can't even imagine what will happen to the Far East in 15-20 years.
    1. +23
      30 November 2020 06: 47
      Quote: Pessimist22
      I can't even imagine what will happen to the Far East in 15-20 years.

      In general, with the country?
    2. +18
      30 November 2020 07: 27
      Pessimist22 - "what will happen to the Far East in 15-20 years." - Yes, the same as with the whole country.
      I live in the Far East, but I can say for sure that in the central and northern regions of Russia (not in Moscow, of course) the situation is no better. At least they talk about the Far East, but there they simply die out quietly and unknown.
      1. +20
        30 November 2020 08: 53
        and here's anger takes me from such false promises of the author. Well, what kind of tanks are bombs but here it is urgently necessary to stop the flow of people from here. region empty cannot exist. about the harsh climate hmm - about Vlad Nakhodka the south of Primorye the weather is like in Sochi - the population has already fled.
        the first priority is to make the region attractive. hectare but who is he here. like a ball mortgage .. if there are no prospects. killed the fish fleet ship repair and what is there to hold on then ??? terrible degradation in comparison with the old regime ... in Vlad Khabar they hate as much as the entire central government ...
        and you know, I'll tell you sedition that there is speculation about the Kuril Islands once a week - in the Kremlin they will also realize in 20-40 years at such a rate and the latter will scatter ... the Asian region is the most dynamically developing one. and when the yapas ripen for the price tag for these two islands, such as investments, non-aligned status, expel the seventh fleet, the Hokaido-Sakhalin bridge ... then life will start spinning
        about aligoria with wolverine bears without comments and yes second years with their mother spend the winter in the spring they often meet
  3. +20
    30 November 2020 05: 50
    We were betrayed by those who should have been ahead. We were robbed by those who were supposed to increase our wealth. We were deceived by those who for many years talked about friendship and love for us,

    Hmm ... what we ourselves followed the path of betrayal ... betrayed Honnecker, betrayed Najibula, betrayed Wojciech Jaruzelski ... after that everything fell apart and we experienced all the fruits of this betrayal of Gorbachev and Yeltsin on our own skin. It will be difficult to restore trust in us after that.
    On the borders of Russia, three flocks of predators hostile to us have formed ... united Europe (west), Turkey with the Saudis (south) and Japan with the United States (east) ... (China is not taking into account yet) they are ready to derail our territory and are only waiting the right moment.
    We have no serious allies ... China does not count, and again, as in the good old days, we will have to rely only on our own strengths and capabilities.
    I think we will deal with them only on one condition if a political elite supported by the people of Russia is formed inside Russia ... If this elite directs all the resources of the state and the country to the prosperity of its people, then everything will be fine ... the people will have both the incentive and the desire to defend such power and country.
    I won't be able to describe the modern elite of Russia in normal language ... you look at her affairs and I can’t say anything except swearing at them ... my attitude towards the opposition to the authorities is even worse ... in the heat of the fight against Putin, they are against our people absolutely do not give a damn ... they have no sensible proposals to improve the lives of ordinary citizens that they can really implement.
    One hope for the military people ... the author described only a small part of the problems of Russia ... so the struggle for our survival in this world of predators and their victims continues.
    1. +15
      30 November 2020 06: 08
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Hmmm ... we ourselves took the path of betrayal ... betrayed Honnecker, betrayed Najibula, betrayed Wojciech Jaruzelski ... after that everything fell apart and we experienced all the fruits of this betrayal of Gorbachev and Yeltsin on our own skin.

      We were just silent, like a flock of sheep, when Yakovlev, Gorbachev and Eltsin betrayed the country, and then sold them wholesale and retail. We received everything with full for our silence, and this sin hangs over us in front of our children and grandchildren. Although many were happy, and even now they are happy about the collapse of the country.
      1. -6
        30 November 2020 09: 53
        Quote: tihonmarine
        We were just silent, like a flock of sheep when Yakovlev, Gorbachev and Eltsin betrayed the country

        We were not silent, we stood in line for vouchers and changed the country for cut paper, on which two Volga were drawn. Now in our fooling we blame anyone, but not ourselves. Remember:

        "As long as someone else is to blame for our troubles, troubles will not leave us!"

        .
      2. +9
        30 November 2020 12: 54
        Quote: tihonmarine
        We were just silent like a flock of sheep

        Colleague, I am reading you with amazement. You ate fish soup? That we were silent, like a flock of sheep? I spent half of 1991 at the BS in Vietnam, then returned to Sovgavan, supported the steamer, were engaged in BP - WHAT WE HAVE TO DO? We did our duty and hoped that others would do the same. What else??
    2. +13
      30 November 2020 06: 12
      The military, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the leadership is also the bourgeoisie, the ruling class of Russia, I recently read somewhere that in some city the police built their cottage village with houses of tens of millions.
      1. +12
        30 November 2020 08: 02
        Quote: Pessimist22
        The military, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies, the leadership is also the bourgeoisie, the ruling class

        I agree. The salary is above average, pensions, social guarantees, medical care ... There is definitely a difference! But not that very significant.

        But this handout is more than enough to shout urya at Putin and give everyone noodles about how great life is now, they say, even better than under the USSR! And for this small piece of theirs, the siloviki will suppress any "troublemakers" (the people who earn money for them).
        1. +1
          30 November 2020 08: 20
          Quote: Stas157
          And for this small piece of theirs, the siloviki will suppress any "troublemakers" (the people who earn money for them).

          Quote: Stas157
          And for this small piece of theirs, the siloviki will suppress any "troublemakers" (the people who earn money for them).

          in vain you are so ... imbeciles are also not imbeciles in the security forces (although in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and NG they already take similar ones, with intellectual restrictions), they understand the whole "theme" that they pour into their ears. as well as army men, in principle.
        2. -8
          30 November 2020 10: 13
          and they will do the right thing, because it is necessary to build nefig to break, and this cannot be done with a sip. all the more paid by the overseas guardians-democrats.
    3. +16
      30 November 2020 06: 50
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      betrayed Honnecker, betrayed Najibula, betrayed Wojciech Jaruzelski ...

      Fidel was missed, who in spite of everything, even with such a Russia, sought to maintain friendly relations.
      1. +17
        30 November 2020 08: 10
        BDRM 667 - Poor Cuba built a whole cottage town on the seashore and thousands of children from the USSR who suffered from Chernobyl underwent treatment and rehabilitation there. Many were simply saved - the qualifications of Cuban doctors are known to everyone. As one person said, "we betrayed them, and they forgave us." recourse
    4. +2
      30 November 2020 11: 34
      "We ourselves took the path of betrayal ... betrayed Honnecker, betrayed Najibula, betrayed Wojciech Jaruzelski ... after that everything fell apart and we experienced all the fruits of this betrayal of Gorbachev and Yeltsin on our own skin. Restoring trust in us after that will be the next"
      did you personally betray them all? then yes, you are a big rascal. Or did our leaders betray them and put us before a fact? Yes, like bae, in any case, you could not change anything. True, we all, of course, felt these fruits. here they are just for us
      1. +2
        30 November 2020 13: 59
        Quote: aglet
        or all the same, our leaders betrayed them, and we were presented with a fact
        Instead of trying to understand what kind of political system we actually had. They even argue that the country had democracy, seeing no contradiction with their own statement that the country was merged by three people, which is, in principle, unthinkable under democracy. Insensitivity to contradiction is a serious symptom. Blatant political lie, or a clinical case of psychiatry.
  4. +25
    30 November 2020 06: 02
    The Far East of Russia should not be afraid of Japanese destroyers and Chinese tank armada, but economic betrayal and political indifference. It is extremely difficult to conquer the Far East and Siberia. Only those who were born and raised there know what these places are. The problem is completely different - depopulation. Not a decrease in the birth rate, not an increase in emigration, but depopulation. You go and see how five-story buildings with empty window openings stand in straight lines. Everything is there, but there are no residents.
    Desertification is the biggest evil and problem in the Russian Far East. If nothing changes, then in 50 years there will be no Russians left behind Baikal. An economic solution to this problem is needed. People must want to live and work in these harsh conditions. The state should stimulate this desire. On another it is impossible. In another way, we will lose the east of the country ...
    1. +13
      30 November 2020 07: 44
      Doccor18 - "People must want to live and work in these harsh conditions. The state must stimulate this desire." - with the current attitude of the authorities (at all levels from the very top) to the people, no incentive will help.
      Relatively recently, our republic was also ranked among the Far East. The demography is more successful here than the national average - children are given birth more than one at a time ... and the population of the republic has been steadily decreasing for several years now. The explanation for this is simple - young people are leaving, the most capable, well-educated and energetic young people are leaving .. And if before we went to Moscow, now it is mainly to China for permanent residence. One of my closest friends has a grandson there, the other has a younger daughter. Both have good jobs with huge (by our standards, of course) salaries and growth prospects. It is no longer possible to return them from there.
      The guy came on vacation "home" explained everything briefly and clearly: "there is life, there is a swamp" - there is nothing to argue with him. And in pursuit - our catering was closed again - people are out of work, and if they leave the republic in search of earnings, who can blame them for what?
      1. +3
        30 November 2020 08: 22
        Quote: Nazar
        The state should stimulate this desire.

        incentive stick for chasing cattle ... motivation must be!
        1. +2
          30 November 2020 08: 41
          polar fox - Dear Colleague, please be more careful - you answer me, but you copied the quote from Doccor18.
          It was I who answered him to the proposal for "stimulation" hi
          With respect, Igor.
        2. -6
          30 November 2020 14: 21
          Quote: polar fox
          Quote: Nazar
          The state should stimulate this desire.

          incentive stick for chasing cattle ... motivation must be!
          Motivation of large social groups is a state task. Mishustin approved a program for the development of the Far East until 2035. The author, whom I respect, could have mentioned it in this article.
      2. +18
        30 November 2020 08: 32
        If a private does not know something, then the officer is to blame.
        ... who can blame them for what?

        If people (like beads from the table) run away from their homes, then the people are not to blame, but the authorities. The authorities have made such a life in the region that it is better anywhere (even in China), but not at home. Unfortunately this is the case.
        He left in the early 2000s. In 2008 I went to my mother-in-law and realized that he had left on time. In 2017, he took his mother-in-law with his father-in-law. I would have taken it earlier, but resisted for a long time, because they lived there all their life ...
        1. +24
          30 November 2020 08: 38
          Quote: Doccor18
          The authorities have made such a life in the region that it is better anywhere (even in China), but not at home. Unfortunately this is the case.
          He left in the early 2000s. In 2008 I went to my mother-in-law and realized that he had left on time. In 2017, he took his mother-in-law with his father-in-law. I would have taken it earlier, but resisted for a long time, because they lived there all their life ...

          Honestly, in the Russian Federation there are only 4-5 cities in which you can decently live, everything else is depressive and dying out territories. All this bullying of the population is called the definition of GENOCIDE.
          1. +17
            30 November 2020 09: 43
            Genocide ... Over the past 10 days in Vladivostok they cannot cope with the consequences of the typhoon. In some places where the supply of heat and electricity has not been restored until now, the 21st century is called the Bridge to Russky is still closed ... On Cape Egersheld, light is also not everywhere. And there they built such an area ... 25 years ago there was still taiga ...
    2. +10
      30 November 2020 09: 42
      So we figured it out.
      Need a state
    3. +1
      30 November 2020 10: 53
      Quote: Doccor18
      The problem is completely different - depopulation.

      I wrote about ten times on this topic. And what has changed? It is impossible to create a mini-Moscow in Vladik, Khabarovsk or Omsk. And the new generation is no longer what we think. These 40-60 year olds can "understand" a boss who promises a bonus, which was not there today, then, right away as soon as ...
      They are pranmatics. Earn, give it back. Your problems don't interest me. And I really don't want to live in such conditions, when someone drives around Moscow or St. Petersburg in sports cars and receives the same salary as in Yakutsk ... I am for the fact that young people do not leave, but I understand those who have left. It's easier to live in the European part of Russia. And there is no incentive to live in tredno-accessible and simply difficult conditions.
      1. +11
        30 November 2020 12: 58
        It is impossible to create a mini-Moscow in Vladik, Khabarovsk or Omsk.
        Why create it there? Or can decent living conditions be created only in Moscow?
        1. 0
          30 November 2020 20: 58
          It is possible in the Far East from Khabarovsk Komsomolsk on the Amur and Vladivostok to make Moscow, although this will require tens of trillions of rubles in investments in everything and 20 million additional residents - where there is more money and people, developed infrastructure, there will be economic development and population growth, everything else will be tightened.
  5. +1
    30 November 2020 06: 06
    Y-yes, it looks like a cry from the heart, but with hope for the future.
  6. +11
    30 November 2020 06: 25
    All my life I live in the Far East with a short break in Siberia. In Soviet times, there was at least some financial incentive and grandiose construction projects that attracted people to the Far East. Today, there is a really large outflow of the population mainly to the Krasnodar Territory (judging by the acquaintances who have already left). T.N. You cannot attract people from other regions with a "Far Eastern hectare". On the other side, the cities have become more beautiful, more attractive, the roads are better, the infrastructure is ... So you puzzle over how to populate the Far East again.
    1. +12
      30 November 2020 08: 43
      So puzzle over how to populate the Far East again.

      1. Build new industrial facilities.
      2. Build modern, well-maintained settlements in which the workers of these enterprises can be settled free of charge (and no mortgages).
      3. Wages should be 3 times higher than in the European part of Russia (at comparable prices for goods and services).
      4. After 20 years of work - a pension.
      The only way.
      These are gigantic expenses (trillion rubles), but even this may not be enough. We also need psychological preparation, propaganda (in a good sense of the word), plus the exaltation of the cult of the family and children. The norm for a family is four children, not one or two ...
      1. -6
        30 November 2020 10: 56
        Quote: Doccor18
        3. Wages should be 3 times higher than in the European part of Russia (at comparable prices for goods and services).

        laughing A little higher I read a comment about the following, why for the same job a person should receive a salary less than in the East ... Can you imagine what a howl will be raised if your plan is adopted?
        1. +16
          30 November 2020 13: 24
          Can you imagine what a howl will be raised if your plan is accepted?

          What howl? If you want to earn money and retire 2 times faster - welcome: Tiksi, Salekhard, Norilsk, Neryungri, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Okha, etc.
          And they will not live there in another way. Even the USSR understood this. Therefore, the hard workers went for a "long ruble" ...
        2. +9
          30 November 2020 14: 15
          why should a person receive less wages for the same job?


          For one and the same job, a person gets less than in Germany .. and there is no howl about this ..
          And in the Far East the work is far from the same ... working there is definitely harder than in Moscow ..
      2. +9
        30 November 2020 11: 47
        "These are huge expenses (trillion rubles), but even this may not be enough."
        plundered and looted from the budget, as it were, and not more. It's not about money, which has nowhere to go in the budget of the Russian Federation, why they are so passionately stolen. It's about the desire and need for the development of territories. but for those who run out of Russia beyond the Moscow Ring Road, what nafig is the Far East
      3. -12
        30 November 2020 14: 42
        Quote: Doccor18
        1. Build new industrial facilities.
        In general, it is not clear what kind of kipish. Since ancient times, the development and development of the territory in breadth began with the construction of fortresses, Cossack settlements, etc. Military infrastructure is being developed in the Far East. Behind them, Mishustin promises to create at least 2035 thousand new jobs in the Far East by 450. And alarmists during epidemics should be put against the wall for the sake of public health. By the way, people moving to Krasnodar from the North, Far East and Siberia are also at risk of health, they should be aware of this.
        1. +6
          30 November 2020 15: 46
          Behind them, Mishustin promises to create at least 2035 thousand new jobs by 450 in the Far East.

          Can you give a list of industrial giants that will employ almost half a million people?
          Do you believe in what you write about?
      4. +4
        30 November 2020 15: 31
        I read your agitation and already wanted to go.
    2. +1
      30 November 2020 14: 42
      But I thought and did not go because there is no protection and there is no protection because there is no army and there is no army because everything has been destroyed and everything has been destroyed because there are traitors And there is no money and conditions and there will not be until the owner comes for which the Russian people and Russian land is the main thing A national leader is needed Without healthy nationalism, Russians cannot be lifted, and without Russians, Russia is no longer Russia but an empty territory that neighbors will quickly take over. go and other pockets simply do not exist due to their physical absence But nationalism alone will not be enough here and justice is needed (that is, socialism to some extent) and the owner who cares for everything, the tsar But only under these conditions there is a future for both DV and Y other regions, otherwise, extinction But I will say this, everyone understands this and does so that the Russians would never rise, because otherwise they will become the coolest in the world and start their own mustache Love to dictate and not childishly strain everyone And judge for yourself what awaits all of us, unless a miracle happens Only a miracle and we can hope for both the Far East and all of us Why is the salary so small? Why is abortion allowed? Why can't you have a weapon? Why is the army so small? Why is there no fleet? Why do fast foods work in the country? Why aren't the borders locked? Where do all kinds of terrorists come from? Why do you have to pay for gas? And why is gasoline so expensive? And why are the bosses all relatives or a sidekick? Why is the economy suddenly beginning to collapse? And the demography suddenly went negative? Why do private traders mine gold? Why is it more profitable to sit on the priest as a guard or a watchman than as a teacher? All these are links of one chain here and there is nothing to think about It is possible to discuss this for a long time, but it will not lead to anything Therefore, only a miracle is something like this
  7. +20
    30 November 2020 06: 25
    In military terms, the Far East makes a depressing sight. Abandoned military towns and even entire cities, for example Zavitinsk, destroyed airfields, destroyed fortified areas, even managed to abandon the border posts, it’s good at least the weapons were taken out or rendered unusable. Air defense was almost completely destroyed, military medicine was destroyed. Achievements however.
  8. +16
    30 November 2020 06: 25
    Russia's strategy in the Far East has long been clearly formulated at the highest level.
    Yes, the Russian leadership does not have any strategy in the Far East, nor any strategy. Rather, there is one strategy, the use of natural resources, without giving the territories practically nothing in return.
    And about the wolverines, I'll tell you a story from my life. As a schoolboy (80e), and living in Chukotka, during the holidays I often went on "flights" with my father (he worked at the "winter road" Bilibino-Pevek, Bilibino-Zeleny Cape, truck "KRAZ" 255 filling). And so on one of the flights we were driving along the Kolyma (the "winter road" passed right along the frozen river) and I saw a running point in front of us - Bat, look the dog is running! I was surprised. Having approached closer the Father said, no, it's a wolverine. Having approached even closer, Father took the gun, and fired two shots from the footboard of the car, it was clear that one of the shots reached the target, the wolverine jerked, slowed down and then stopped, and turned towards the car. We drove up very close, the wolverine continued to stand. In order not to get out of the cockpit, Dad asked me to open his passenger door and move away, he decided to shoot straight without leaving the car. And so, "KRAZ" stopped right on the opposite side of the beast (from my side), I open my door without a second thought to allow a shot, and .............. as soon as I fully opened the door , the wolverine soars into the air, and jumps straight into the cockpit at me. I was saved by the fact that Father managed to shoot and hit the beast, and the wolverine flew into the cockpit, already dead ....... Here's the story.
    1. +3
      30 November 2020 13: 55
      Quote: 72jora72
      I was saved by the fact that Father managed to shoot and hit the beast, and the wolverine flew into the cockpit already dead ....... Here's a story

      creepy. Although for harsh places, the stories are always harsh.
      Wolverine is a beast that drives out not only animals. The Indians of the harsh places of North America were also not friends with him. Although they paid tribute to the skill of this beast.

      the climate of course drove from our places to more severe ones.
      Think only in the memory of mankind, the small glacial ..
      But still quite recently by historical standards ..

      Wolverine hunting. Fresco of St. Sophia Cathedral. XI century.
      A very dangerous animal, even for an adult. And even more children ..
    2. +4
      30 November 2020 19: 33
      Quote: 72jora72
      Yes, the Russian leadership does not have any strategy in the Far East, nor any strategy

      And hand over the entire Far East to China? Isn't it a strategy?
  9. +12
    30 November 2020 06: 31
    In order for Russia to begin to be able to do something in every sense, forces are needed capable of doing this, it is either the Army or the Communists! Everything is in the trash! Only the Constitution and the Laws in the Basis of its SOCIAL DIRECTION are needed by Russia --- otherwise the state will get lost, no matter how the current authorities try to appease some of the people with handouts --- nothing will work without Serious Economic Development! We already have more than half of the economy controlled from beyond the hillock --- EVERYTHING is nowhere to go!
  10. +9
    30 November 2020 06: 32
    Interestingly, has the author been to the Far East himself? All the problems of this region stem from the fact that local resources are pumped out by Moscow, and the needs of the local population are not interesting to the center.
    1. +3
      30 November 2020 11: 01
      I've been. True, today I live in Siberia. And about pumping out local resources ... So this is the problem of the entire Trans-Urals. Too rich lands were looked after by rich companies from Moscow. The rich simply because there is a lot of money in this city. Accordingly, taxes also go there. This is what happens with oil and gas ...
      1. +13
        30 November 2020 11: 58
        Perhaps you have been to the Far East for a long time. A lot has changed since Soviet times, and therefore the accents in the article are not placed correctly. At present, most of the population of the Far Eastern territories does not support the central government very strongly.
      2. -6
        30 November 2020 21: 04
        These funds are not in the budget of Moscow, but in the state budget and in the accounts of offices. Moscow has long been living on its own money for the GDP of an annual city and region of 28 trillion rubles - 30% of Russia's GDP for a year 16 million people provide all this.
    2. -5
      30 November 2020 15: 05
      Quote: Tucan
      local resources are pumped out by Moscow
      "Moscow is an exemplary communist city." From there it went. They promised communism to everyone, and then limited it to one city. The rights of regions in relation to resources must be regulated somehow.
  11. +19
    30 November 2020 06: 36
    what
    The wolverine (the largest of the mustelids) is a serious beast, of course, but not immortal, honestly I have not seen or heard that it takes away prey from a bear or a pack of polar wolves. Here is to find, or the remains of prey from large predators - yes. Woe to the hunter if the wolverine finds him a hunting lodge.
    To stop the outflow of the population from the northern regions of the Far East, one needs motivation, a "long ruble", provision of housing, reliable communication (inexpensive) with the regional center, accessibility of medical services, education, control over the price and supply of products.
    Earlier, up to the 52nd parallel, livestock was raised in Kamchatka, the villages were provided with their own milk, sour cream, butter and meat. In each settlement had its own bakery. Fish and seafood were not more expensive than in Moscow.
  12. +12
    30 November 2020 06: 37
    Perhaps by restoring the USSR in a new format, at least partially. This is the shortest-term option.
    About the new format. Author, I will surprise you, but the new format exists, since the collapse of the USSR, the CIS is called ... smile The CIS national team even took part in the Olympic Games. And there is a partial one: the Union State of Russia and Belarus, which have proven their "viability" in modern conditions. There is also the newest EurAZEC, there is the CSTO military bloc. What kind of union do you need in a new format? smile All these blocks, "successfully" oppose the existing ones. The queue lined up from other countries to participate in these formations. laughing Let us strengthen ourselves, foreign countries will help us, as they say at numerous economic forums held in Russia, from the top officials of the state. I am writing on emotions, in our county town, a pensioner from a neighboring house committed suicide, could not live on a pension, took short-term loans, tried But the state, according to the Federal Law On Burials, took care of her, provided almost free of charge, a place in the cemetery, a coffin, special vehicles and a cross.
    1. +1
      30 November 2020 11: 05
      Quote: parusnik
      I will surprise you, but the new format exists, since the collapse of the USSR, the CIS is called ...

      Sarcasm, as I understand it .. This is where this CIS exists? Where does the president sit in this G, where does the parliament grub? And can you advise where you can buy a book with G. laws, obligatory for this very CIS? Promising doesn't mean getting married. Declaring does not mean creating. And all these declarations must be judged by their deeds, and what has already been done. And what things have been done after the declaration?
      1. +5
        30 November 2020 18: 29
        Yes sarcasm and more than one, where smiles are. Why are you asking me such questions? laughing
        This is where this CIS exists? Where does the president sit in this G, where does the parliament grub? And can you advise where you can buy a book with G. laws, obligatory for this very CIS?
        , and not in front of yourself within the framework of your own proposal
        Perhaps by restoring the USSR in a new format, at least partially. This is the shortest-term option.
        The CIS has existed for 30 years, and the EU is not a candle, the bourgeois of the post-Soviet space have not been able to organize something worthwhile and they will not be able countries belonging to the Commonwealth.
    2. 0
      30 November 2020 11: 56
      "But the state, according to the Federal Law On Burials, took care of her, provided almost free of charge, a place in the cemetery, a coffin, special transport and a cross."
      but this is much cheaper than creating decent living conditions in retirement. but then one question arises - "took short-term loans, tried to help grandchildren" - do grandchildren have no parents? that is, her children who could not bury her? or didn't you want to?
      1. +7
        30 November 2020 18: 32
        Yes, and helped children and grandchildren .. Yes, poverty is there, that of the children, that of the grandchildren .. Stretching out of their last strength. You do not understand.
        1. -1
          1 December 2020 09: 38
          "You can not understand."
          but try to explain, so that even I understand. what does it mean to stretch with the last bit of strength? do not work, but multiply, and are waiting for a blue helicopter?
  13. -16
    30 November 2020 06: 47
    The population of the Far East is declining due to the northern regions and districts. Few people want to freeze snot in Chukotka, Magadan region, in the northern regions of the Khabarovsk Territory and the Amur Region, as well as in the north of Sakhalin. In the southern cities of the Far East, life is quite comfortable, the population of Blagoveshchensk, Khabarovsk, Vladivostok and Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk is even growing. So there is no need to retell the tales of liberals and pans about the "depopulation" of the Far East. In the northern provinces of Canada, very few people also live, mainly indigenous people: Indians and Eskimos, as well as shift workers. Almost all Canadians live in the extreme south of the country, in the cities of Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Halifax, where the climate is comfortable.
    1. -5
      30 November 2020 07: 14
      Here is a population density map of Canada

      A quarter of Canada's population, about 9 million people, lives in the Toronto agglomeration, located in the extreme south of the country, at the latitude of Sochi.
    2. +18
      30 November 2020 07: 34
      the population of Blagoveshchensk, Khabarovsk, Vladivostok and Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk is even growing. So there is no need here to retell the tales of liberals and saucepans about the "depopulation" of the Far East
      Fuck growth: Vladivostok in 1991 - 640 thousand, in 2020 - 606 thousand. Well, you, damn it, give ... No, well, there is the Internet, if you write something here, well check your statements first! You don't look very smart. And yes, the outflow of the population happens like this: from the wilderness, people bring down to the European part of the country only if finances allow it. The rest, if possible, move to the capitals of the regions. That is why there are so many abandoned taiga villages in the Far East. Generally abandoned. Zero. But even in the capitals of the regions, as can be seen from the example of Vladik (the most, by the way, the southern one of you listed), the population is falling, despite the internal positive migration. So it’s you who are hounding the stories here, and I have the dubious pleasure of watching all this with my own eyes.
      PySy. But posting a demographic map of Canada is definitely not worth it here: Canada is not surrounded by a belt of sworn "partners" in order to squeeze Baffin's Land. But the fact that Russia has too many natural resources, the "partners" have already spoken out many times. So the situation in our countries is different from the word "absolutely". And with your posts you are trying to justify the impotence of our government, which only aggravates the situation.
      1. +14
        30 November 2020 08: 26
        Quote: Dalny V
        Fuck growth: Vladivostok in 1991 - 640 thousand, in 2020 - 606 thousand.

        so this is a NEGATIVE growth! so, like the ministers are babbling.
        1. -1
          30 November 2020 11: 10
          Quote: polar fox
          so this is a NEGATIVE growth! so, like the ministers are babbling.

          laughing So this is why the polar fox and the scribe are in one glass ... And I thought that the scribe was the result of some work ... Such growth today is almost in all cities of Russia, except for a dozen southern ones ... They've built Moscow, already as a region, a small town. .. Soon Krasnodar will be the same ...
          1. +4
            30 November 2020 17: 17
            Quote: domokl
            So that's why the polar fox and the scribe are in one glass ..

            Like a scribe? Not a wolverine? Not ?
      2. -14
        30 November 2020 08: 28
        In 2009, the population of Vladivostok was 578 thousand, in 2020 it is already 606 thousand. Is this a "fall" in your opinion? Tula and Ryazan would have envied such a "fall".
        Quote: Dalny V
        PySy. But posting a demographic map of Canada is definitely not worth it: Canada is not surrounded by a belt of sworn "partners" in order to squeeze out Baffin's Land.

        That is, you propose to relocate hundreds of thousands of people to the tundra and northern taiga to suffer from a difficult climate and isolation from the centers of the country? I believe that people have nothing to do in the tundra and northern taiga. People should live in good conditions, and not freeze snot where the polar bears are cold.
        1. +17
          30 November 2020 08: 42
          It is not embarrassing that it was during this period that, by the will of our Putin's tsarya VeWe, 20 lards of evergreen money were thrown into the APEC summit on about. Russian and, as a result, large-scale housing construction, construction of various infrastructure, incl. famous bridges and so on. in Vladivostok? Naturally, people from all over Primorye rushed there to raise loot. After the summit, a sharp demographic growth somehow suspiciously slowed down. Maybe because they stopped pouring money into the city's development in such a volume? (By the way, this is a good illustration of the fact that with the desire and political will of people to return to the Far East, it is still possible to return to the Far East. It’s just that nobody from the top ranks anywhere.
          By the way, all this time in the rest of Primorye, the population has been steadily decreasing.
          1. -14
            30 November 2020 09: 19
            Quote: Dalny V
            It is not embarrassing that it was during this period that, by the will of our Putin's tsarya VeWe, 20 lards of evergreen money were thrown into the APEC summit on about. Russian and, as a result, large-scale housing construction, construction of various infrastructure, incl. famous bridges and so on. in Vladivostok?

            Are you a regular subscriber of Navalny? Words are exactly like Lesha's. It can be seen that you have your own
            there are no thoughts, you are only repeating other people's words, and to draw your own conclusions and analyzes is too difficult for you.
            Quote: Dalny V
            By the way, all this time in the rest of Primorye, the population has been steadily decreasing.

            the population of the regions in Central Russia is decreasing, take the same Ivanovo region, or Novgorod. This is normal, most people always tend to move to live in large cities, at least to a regional center. We are now not the 18th century, when 99% of people lived by subsistence farming in villages.
            1. +18
              30 November 2020 09: 29
              Are you a regular subscriber of Navalny?
              Finally, I have never listened to him. As if, finally, no idea what his thoughts are laughing And you, along the way, only listen to it, if in any opinion, contrary to yours, you manage to find the oval words laughing
              the population of regions in Central Russia is decreasing, take the same Ivanovo region, or Novgorod
              The article is not about population decline in a particular region, but in the whole macroregion for all 30 years old... Feel the difference, don't you?
              This is normal
              In general, the population is declining throughout the country as a whole. If this is normal for you, like, a natural process - I have no more questions hi
              1. -11
                30 November 2020 10: 08
                Quote: Dalny V
                The article is not about population decline in a particular region, but in the whole macroregion over the course of all 30 years. Feel the difference, don't you?

                In 1989, 157 thousand people lived in Chukotka, now there are 50 thousand, in the Magadan region 390 and 140 thousand people, respectively. And rightly so, people have nothing to do where there is no summer, and even polar bears are cold in winter.
                Quote: Dalny V
                In general, the population is declining throughout the country as a whole. If this is normal for you, like, a natural process - I have no more questions

                Unfortunately, in all developed countries and societies this is the case. Most families have 1-2 children, rarely 3. And families with 4 children or more, this is generally a rarity. By the way, the current decline in the birth rate in the country is caused by the fact that now the population is giving birth, born in the "saints" for the liberals of the 90s, when there was a sharp decline in the birth rate.
                This is the age-sex pyramid of Russia in 2020

                It can be seen that the generation of "saints" of the 90s is almost half the size of the generation of the 80s.
            2. +1
              30 November 2020 12: 03
              "the population of the regions and in Central Russia is decreasing"
              well, it was about the seaside. and then you can not give any quotation without Lyosha? your idol, or what?
      3. 0
        30 November 2020 16: 04
        Quote: Dalny V
        Fuck growth: Vladivostok in 1991 - 640 thousand, in 2020 - 606 thousand. Well, you, damn it, give ... No, well, there is the Internet, if you write something here, well, check your statements first!
        Not mine, but decided to check
        The resident population of Vladivostok as of January 1, 2020 amounted to 634,7 thousand people and increased by 1521 people by the end of 2018. This is stated in the monitoring of the socio-economic development of the city for January-February 2020, published on the website of the mayor's office.
        Such growth
    3. kig
      +8
      30 November 2020 11: 34
      If you look at the official data, the population of Vladivostok, for example, has really grown slightly. But at the same time, its area has increased - now the urban district includes some territories that did not belong to it before. In general, these are all tricks of statistics. If you include the city of Artyom (it is only 45 km away, and people from there already go to Vladivostok to work), then the population will grow even more, and it will be possible to report Hurray. But the population of the Primorye Territory is steadily decreasing. It seems that the locals are not aware of the programs to increase their population.
  14. +15
    30 November 2020 07: 55
    I did not understand the author's allegory about the bear and the wolverine.
    all I understood is at the end,
    - no intelligible policy for the development of the Far East.
    - the bear brandishes a nuclear baton. Therefore, it makes no sense to build and maintain a fleet there. We'll put each division on the island, and let them sit.
    that's all the author's thoughts.
    ----
    I will add about myself personally. As a person who has lived in the Far East for 38 years. DV has always opposed itself to the rest of the Russian Federation. And thoughts about disconnection, sovereignty - there are hovering from school to drunkenness. They began in the 90s and do not stop to this day. (there half-DV can be planted under the article). Industrial potential: only 3 cities (now the 4th has appeared, but this is a consequence of one). There is no development of the railway, because there is no point in special transportation, and our foreign friends do not see us as partners (the throughput capacity of ports and roads did not suit them even in the days of the USSR).
    The Far Easterners themselves continue the tendencies of internal migration (for the simple reason that there are no jobs for such a large population), + Predatorially plundered the country's resources (they cannot figure out fish in any way) (yes, this can be seen from some comments about the senseless slaughter of animals). They are replaced by migrants from the Near Abroad (including our migrants). Few people remember about the Far Eastern hectare. (for those who did not study well, I remind you that the entire territory of the Far East is risky agriculture and cattle breeding). Do you want to live on earth? Pskov, Novgorod - I was shocked by so many abandoned villages.
    In short, everything is as usual.
    1. -11
      30 November 2020 09: 30
      Quote: Takashi
      thoughts about disconnection, sovereignty - there are hovering from school to drunkenness.

      Name me at least one country that emerged from under the wing of Russian civilization and fell under the influence of Western civilization, in which Russians began to live well? Maybe in the Baltics? In Georgia? Maybe in Ukraine? Why do you think that they (the USA, Japan and China) will allow the Russians to continue to live in these territories, and will not give power to the local aborigines, who will undoubtedly ask for compensation for their oppression since the time of the king of the peas?
      Where does such naivety come from?
      1. +2
        30 November 2020 10: 12
        All former Soviet republics (ALL) lived at the expense of Russia. (even some documentaries about the Russian economy are devoted to this.) Everything. To the detriment of Russia's development. All the republics that left the USSR do not want to return. Why do you think that Russians in a foreign land should live well? The Baltics, Georgia, the Ukrainian - live well (see less state propaganda), and their demand for nationality and the preservation of culture and language is quite logical. Why, in the Russian Federation the state language is Russian.? And no, Nanai. Why, there are Nanai schools, but at the institute you must know Russian. Have you been to the Far East? Have you seen the local natives? They have long been assimilated so much that their culture is more for luring tourists. If Georgia began to carry out the practice of soft assimilation in Ossetia, in 30-50 years, Ossetia itself would go to Georgia. Where did you get such naivety? And crazy thoughts?
        1. -10
          30 November 2020 10: 36
          Quote: Takashi
          All former Soviet republics (ALL) lived at the expense of Russia.

          Lying.
          Starting with Khrushchev, all the money was concentrated in Moscow and from there, in proportion to the loyalty to the central government, it was distributed among the regions and republics. Under Stalin, it was different - each republic fed itself: "As they drowned, they burst."

          Quote: Takashi
          All republics that left the USSR do not want to go back

          Would you like a neighbor to manage your income?
          It is necessary to return to the Stalinist economy, then the republics will return and not only they. All republics are thrown off only for general defense, general union construction projects, etc. and the like. If you haven't noticed, Putin is building just such relationships not only with 24 republics but also with regions of Russia.

          Quote: Takashi
          their demand for nationality and the preservation of culture and language is quite logical

          This is logic - the destruction of the state.

          A nation (state) is:
          - a historically established community of people,
          - originated on the basis common language,
          - territories
          - economic life and
          - mental structure, manifested in the community of culture.
          "Marxism and the National Question", JV Stalin.

          Destroying or questioning one of these points leads to the collapse of the state.
          It is against them that our enemies are beating in their propaganda aimed at destroying the Russian civilization.

          Quote: Takashi
          Have you seen the local aborigines?

          I haven’t seen it and I don’t want to see it, but if the locals are reborn, then they will be replaced by the true ones - do not hesitate.

          Quote: Takashi
          If Georgia began to practice soft assimilation

          Georgia has come under the influence of Western civilization, which, in principle, does not provide for soft assimilation - either you are under us or you are not.
        2. 0
          30 November 2020 23: 02
          Quote: Takashi
          If Georgia began to practice soft assimilation

          Georgia fell under the influence of Western civilization, which, in principle, does not provide for soft assimilation - either you are under us or you are not.
          As if in your statements: the average Daughter flew in the summer with her fiancé to New Zealand, they told a lot. So there "damned Anglo-Saxons" live perfectly next to the natives, just in case. This is an abstract video illustrating from an interracial wedding.


          Although: maybe there are detailed videos from Russia - I don't know. In the piggy bank of your opponents: about 20 years ago, I often talked with my good friend's father (born in the late 20s, formerly in charge of the Australian mining industry): this is how this "damned Anglo-Saxon ™" really explained that natives are not workers at all. Anglo-Saxon full was shorter.
      2. +1
        30 November 2020 12: 08
        "Name me at least one country that emerged from under the wing of Russian civilization and fell under the influence of Western civilization, in which Russians began to live well?"
        why should Russians live well in them? it is quite a nationalist entity that does not tolerate foreigners. Lithuania, Latvia, Kazakhstan, Chechnya? who else?
    2. +9
      30 November 2020 12: 06
      Quote: Takashi
      There is no development,

      Well, here you are a little wrong. For the last six years, the modernization of railway tracks towards Vanino and SovGavan is underway, last year a dozen new diesel locomotives arrived in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. About
      Quote: Takashi
      thoughts about disconnection, sovereignty - there are hovering from school to drunkenness. They began in the 90s and do not stop to this day.
      To be honest, I have lived less in the Far East, December 15 will be 32 years old. But somehow conversations about disconnection and sovereignty have never arisen, and do not arise. Here is talk about the fact that everything that is possible, almost all the subsoil, factories, factories, steamers practically belong to Moscow, but what does not belong yet - insolently squeezes out, goes bankrupt and goes to Moscow. Taxes from large industrial enterprises located in the Far East go to Moscow ... This is what people talk about from school to drunkenness. Of course, everything is very simplistic, everything is at the everyday level, but in fact there is not far away a quarry here, but all the visiting shift workers work on it, and why not take locals, the same drivers, bulldozer drivers, excavator operators are available, but they are not take and our go on a rotational basis to work in other regions - just think, but what is it for?
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  15. -9
    30 November 2020 08: 14
    thanks! "good article!
  16. -10
    30 November 2020 08: 18
    Control of trade routes ???? Nonsense is not the 17th century now.
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  18. +5
    30 November 2020 08: 36
    It is clear that the article is about something else, but I did not understand, judging by the words of the author - once in her life the bear ROSSOMAKh gives birth or what? feel
    1. -1
      30 November 2020 11: 18
      request Duc, the taiga hunter told. They are there more and more not learning life from textbooks, but from the stories that old people tell them ... And then they themselves tell the children and grandchildren the same ... If from the textbook, then it is clear why a male wolverine is on his land for two or three he suffers females, And if according to folk experience, it turns out that wolverines will be born from bears ...
      1. +5
        30 November 2020 14: 18
        Oh, those taiga hunting tales good
  19. +2
    30 November 2020 08: 37
    It is precisely on this map that it is very clearly visible why in no case should not a single pebble from the Kuril ridge be given to the Japanese or anyone else. This is our outpost.
    I somehow looked before, but did not see, but then as I saw the light, everything is visible.
  20. -15
    30 November 2020 08: 52
    Quote: A. Staver
    As much as we would not like, in the coming decades we will not be able to occupy a place corresponding to the Soviet Union in the world hierarchy of countries.

    Do we need it? Do we need to become like them and try to take a prize in their game? The result of such an attempt is well known - there is no USSR. I don't want Russia to exist either.

    Under the slogan: "Let's catch up and overtake America", we changed the vector of goals - from increasing the welfare for all, to increasing the welfare of the individual. We do not need to become one of them and divide the World between them and us, as it was during the late USSR. Today we are unhappy with the fact that the bourgeoisie have billions of dollars, but then, in the era of Khrushchev and Brezhnev, we fed half of the World - how is it better?
    I am for the USSR of the Stalin era.

    Russia is one of three established civilizations. She has her own task.
    There is no need to attach us anywhere.

  21. +5
    30 November 2020 09: 07
    It is understandable that we want to once again become as powerful a power as the Soviet Union was. But another thing is also clear - we will not be able to do this in the near future. We do not have such human, economic and military resources. We are a huge but sparsely populated country located in difficult climatic and geographical regions.

    It's a strange thing, but after all, Soviet Russia at the beginning of its journey was also huge, sparsely populated and in difficult climatic conditions.
    1. +8
      30 November 2020 12: 10
      "It's a strange thing, but after all, Soviet Russia at the beginning of its journey was also huge, sparsely populated and in difficult climatic conditions."

      goals were different, and the rulers.
  22. +7
    30 November 2020 09: 08
    I was thinking about what the article was ..
    Like from the series "it is necessary to tighten the belts, it's hard for everyone, we do one thing, in the same boat."

    "What our previous authorities did is really a huge betrayal."

    What is the key word in this quote?
    1. kig
      +8
      30 November 2020 11: 36
      There is an article about the Rossom, they have 70 percent of the information assigned.
  23. -3
    30 November 2020 09: 38
    After the article, I'm ready to hunt down and catch someone in order to eat together. For starters, I propose to give the farthest of the Kuril Islands to Japan. At the same time, it is necessary to give so that later (part 5 years) they will be taken back by force together with the American top-secret part, which the states and Japan itself will make up during this time. The latter must be paired with China in order to immediately divide and settle all territorial claims with this country in advance. This is the first thing I catch and eat. Then Alaska seems very tasty. Now there is a tendency for the permafrost to melt, and therefore the local government is inventing ways to deal with the destruction of infrastructure. They will come up with something sensible and it will be possible to take Alaska home with all the secret military bases. And so in turn. America and Nata are weak and it is worth doing with them as they themselves do with such (they showed us everything and we are now in the know). And the former USSR republics are not needed for fing. Okay, RB. RB hasn’t started up yet, you can work with them. And from others, as the GDP said, it was necessary to take away the original Russian lands, and send the dissenting population to explore the moon, for example, or build a second Black Sea ... Empire means empire and there is nothing to be ashamed of. What they did to our people in just 100 years (revolution, civil with invaders from everywhere, World War II, decay of the USSR with artificial fashion for 1 child, collapse of the USSR, 90s) no one is ashamed, but on the contrary they are proud!
    1. -8
      30 November 2020 09: 41
      Quote: local
      I propose to begin with giving the farthest of the Kuril Islands to Japan

      Are you not afraid that the prosecutor's office will be interested in you for appeals to give part of our lands to anyone else?
      1. +5
        30 November 2020 10: 20
        For starters, I propose to give the farthest of the Kuril Islands to Japan.

        I propose to give them Chubais ... this will be the best gift from us to the Japanese ... from the bottom of my heart, so to speak.
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        2. 0
          3 December 2020 08: 06
          Chubais can be a set with his comrades that appeared with him in the early 90s.
      2. 0
        3 December 2020 08: 05
        Yes, why should I be afraid? Well this is not a call to give, but reasoning about taking away. Don't be taken out of context. Otherwise, I might think that you are such a troll hunting for "chopper" on the forums. Don't overstrain.
  24. +5
    30 November 2020 10: 16
    What, have you already forgotten that this summer they voted for the amendments ?!
  25. +3
    30 November 2020 10: 24
    Quote: Revival
    So we figured it out.
    Need a state

    The state is a government that cares about the prosperity of the people. For this, it is necessary to have legislation built on the basis of conscience, and not just a set of laws and obstacles for a normal human life.
    While many simply ignore the decision of the court in civil cases, they do not bear either material or criminal responsibility for this (they simply spit on the law and the person who has suffered from their actions) - there will be no proper order in the country. And over time, the country itself will disappear. And our legislation is largely imposed by pseudo-liberal concepts, the very traitors who destroyed the country.
    1. +3
      30 November 2020 12: 10
      Quote: Vlad5307
      The state is a government that cares about the prosperity of the people.

      What is the right way then? And like this:
      The state as an apparatus of organized violence can arise only when a contradiction has already matured in society between the personal aspirations of individual individuals and the common goals of all people.
      The state is the main instrument of political power in a class society.
      The state is a political form of organization of society in a certain territory, a political-territorial organization of public power, which has an apparatus of government and coercion, to which the entire population of the country is subject.
  26. +10
    30 November 2020 10: 46
    Russia's tasks in the Far East have changed

    The tasks remained the same. But if the current leadership of the country wants to keep the Far East as part of Russia, the approach to the development of this territory and the needs of the people inhabiting it must change.
    1. 0
      30 November 2020 23: 11
      Quote: Bongo
      The tasks remained the same.

      A task is a goal and the conditions for achieving it (including available resources).
      There is no target.
  27. +3
    30 November 2020 11: 49
    Yes, it also happens that some gluttons still find enough food in the taiga to grow into a big bear. But if this happens, woe to all living things, and the hunter who invaded the territory of this bear. Nature is not easy to defeat. This bear does not lie down in a den for the winter. So it wanders through the taiga all winter, killing all living things that meet on its way. They call it that - connecting rod.
    Interesting, very interesting. As far as I know, and our Far Eastern hunters say that the connecting rod is a bear that could not gain a normal layer of fat during the warm period, so to speak. This is a bear that ate very poorly and therefore could not hibernate, so it walks through the taiga in search of food. And a bear who is a glutton, fed normally, got fat, and went into hibernation in time - nature (that is, nature) cannot be defeated.
    1. +2
      1 December 2020 04: 25
      Quote: Fitter65
      Interesting, very interesting. As far as I know, and our Far Eastern hunters say that the connecting rod is a bear that could not gain a normal layer of fat during the warm period, so to speak. This is a bear that ate very poorly and therefore could not hibernate, so it walks through the taiga in search of food. And a bear who is a glutton, fed normally, got fat, and went into hibernation in time - nature (that is, nature) cannot be defeated.

      Not only because of poor nutrition, lack of fat for the winter does not go into hibernation, but also because of illness or old age, it does not gain weight, if people are nearby, it goes to them to smell, it finds its end there, if in the wilderness, it dies from hunger.
      Recently, many "remote taiga corners" have become available to people (snowmobiles, quadriks, helicopters), and, due to the lack of hunting culture, they raise a bear, leave wounded animals ...
      1. +2
        1 December 2020 11: 29
        Quote: Lynx2000
        Not only because of poor nutrition, lack of fat for the winter, do not go to sleep,

        Well, I say in general terms, there can be many reasons why he did not lie down, but let's say that a healthy, well-fed bear does not become a connecting rod. drinks
  28. 0
    30 November 2020 11: 52
    After all, the delivery of a nuclear strike is a problem not only of the target, but also of the target. The answer should be as far as possible by the means by which the attack is carried out. For example, the delivery of a nuclear strike on the territory of Japan will cause a response from other nuclear powers in connection with the death of citizens of these countries. And there…
    Will not cause any nuclear retaliatory strike, for this is not the case. Punishment for aggression must be inevitable, it is in our military doctrine.
  29. +5
    30 November 2020 11: 57
    Blah blah blah ... The author wanted to say what?
    1. +5
      30 November 2020 14: 02
      Didn't understand what the author wanted to convey? You got lost and did not delve into the country's problems. You ask a question on the internet, what is now very important for the country, problems, etc.
  30. +22
    30 November 2020 12: 17
    The fact that the people are fleeing to the Mother See is not surprising. In the capital, the standard of living rises, in the provinces either falls, or at best remains in place (in comparison with the USSR)
  31. +2
    30 November 2020 12: 28
    ... they nicknamed these small, by northern standards, a meter long, up to 60 cm high and 20 kg in weight - taiga gluttons ...

    In German the word "wolverine" will be - "Vielfraß", that is, "glutton".
  32. -8
    30 November 2020 13: 00
    Again, all the propalschiki lying on the couch crying, we were robbed, we were betrayed.
  33. +7
    30 November 2020 13: 33
    I served in Kamchatka in the mid-70s and I know firsthand how much and how the state - the USSR - was undertaking for defense. New ships were rampant, new weapons too. After all, the Pacific Fleet opposed the two American fleets, the Japanese fleet, then China, the ASEAN countries. And now you look at the TF payroll and you just want to cry. You write in social networks with those who remained in Kamchatka and it becomes scary what these liberals have done. Destroyed everything possible.
  34. +2
    30 November 2020 13: 56
    The situation in our Far East is quite difficult, and it is getting more complicated with the current pandemic. This is happening all over the world, but given the deteriorating demographics with the pandemic, it will be especially difficult for us in the very coming years. All reptiles will claim our lands, and especially the West.
  35. -2
    30 November 2020 14: 24
    difficult in a global world where a person is mobile enough to choose a place of life, working conditions and living conditions to stimulate someone to live where
    1-climate worse
    2-all that is possible for the component of the comfort of life is worse.
    Therefore, even the rich countries fail to evenly settle people. Well, they cannot live in the country's deserts, if there are convenient coasts and estuaries, if there are warmer and more convenient places for the existence of primates .. Well, we love the sun, warmth and fresh water. And convenient transport links.
    Neither Canada, nor Australia, nor the United States have been able to solve such a problem in a democratic country.
    Only by force. Or on a rotational basis.
    Therefore, as soon as globalization increased and the mobility of the population increased, the outflow from uncomfortable conditions to more comfortable ones increased. Plus urbanization.
    Here the task is not that it is necessary here and now in the entire North, Siberia, Far East, etc. to keep the required number of people for the "demonstration of the flag" preservation in this state. The border can be kept by other methods. It is important that the state itself is strong. Not loose.
    It is necessary to switch to a rotational method where there are very difficult conditions, you need to focus on those places that are still more comfortable than others. Moreover, a center of trade and information has now emerged in Asia, and it is necessary to connect these single places with the comfort of infrastructure with convenient logistics.
    Unfortunately, many points, settlements and cities will die out due to the inability to keep them. But at the same time, you need to leave this resource from these points in places that are comfortable in the Far East.
    That is Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Belogorodsk, Magadan ... (according to the polls). By the way, in terms of comfort, it is gradually moving higher than Vladivostok.
    The reason for the appearance of such alarmist articles (Trouble, we are losing Siberia / Far East, etc.) is that there is no one to protect the storehouse of resources from encroachments.
    As long as resources are bought at world prices, no one will fight for them. It is more expensive.
    And the problems of cities in development in such conditions (changing climate, displacement of global trade centers, urbanization) in the Far East should be solved already yesterday. And constantly.
    1. -1
      30 November 2020 15: 19
      We do not have the city of Belogorodsk in the Far East, not comrades from Ukraine!
      There is Belogorsk, Blagoveshchensk, Birobidzhan, Svobodny, Yakutsk, Khabarovsk, Ussuriisk, Vladivostok, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk ...Magadan (this is for you and your brothers in mind) and many other cities hi
      1. 0
        30 November 2020 22: 45
        Quote: VORON538
        We do not have the city of Belogorodsk in the Far East, not comrades from Ukraine!

        That's right, my mistake
        Belogorsk, of course. The fourth place for the comfort of living.
        Thanks for the amendment.
        Quote: VORON538
        Magadan (this is for you and your brothers in mind)

        we have better climatic conditions.
        But thanks for the invitation, the phrase from the famous film about Kolyma is more appropriate here.
        But only as guests.

        I've never been farther than Petersburg and Bryansk.
  36. +10
    30 November 2020 15: 05
    ... We were betrayed by those who should have been ahead. We were robbed by those who were supposed to increase our wealth. We were deceived by those who for many years kept repeating about friendship and love for us, about the desire to make our life a paradise ...

    I have already written here a thousand times: all the troubles of Russia are inside Russia. At all times and in any weather, whether it is a principality, an empire, or a union of republics, it does not matter. Everything fell apart from the inside.
    When you’ve all stopped whining, look west and whine again. For the thousandth time I am writing: Obama is not in your elevator, and it is not the State Department that raises the price of gasoline with free oil.
  37. -2
    30 November 2020 16: 24
    You betrayed yourself
  38. +1
    30 November 2020 16: 31
    The authorities, previous, current and future, will continue to hold the hourglass course (damage only). Why an hourglass? That's enough for my life! That is why there is an outflow of young people, they don’t leave the good life and don’t move. Since the population from the Far East migrates, it means that strategic tasks will be more difficult to fulfill, and the voids will be occupied by neighbors from abroad, and the "partners" see this perfectly. And if they still help: rent, sell, small taxes, citizenship Income, said the White House. Why not? So people are leaving from bad conditions.
    But no one removed the task of striking force in the event of a nuclear war from the fleet. Surface ships and submarines must ensure the delivery of a nuclear strike against the enemy in a short time and from short distances. If we look at what has been happening in this regard in recent years, we can conclude that quite a lot of attention is paid to this particular side of Russia's defense.

    Naturally, the question arises as to whether we are sliding into the situation that existed in this region at the beginning of the last century?
    We are sliding down, since nuclear weapons are our everything. There are tasks that need to be solved, but, from the fact that there are nuclear weapons, this did not become calmer and there were no fewer enemies, but only increased.
  39. +3
    30 November 2020 16: 40
    "Only from somewhere does their tail appear. And seeing that the cubs do not look like bears at all," ///
    ----
    This is amazing! I have not heard about that.
    There are photos?
    This is an allegory, probably ...
    1. 0
      30 November 2020 22: 51
      Quote: voyaka uh
      This is amazing! I have not heard about that.


      Outwardly, the wolverine looks like a badger and even a little like the bear itself - only a small one
      The wolverine is a plantigrade animal, that is, when moving, it puts its paw on the entire foot, which is the reason for its characteristic clubfoot when moving.
    2. +3
      1 December 2020 00: 36
      This is probably nonsense. Even for sure. Still from the area of ​​delirium - a hunter, pacer: is it on four legs, what?
    3. +3
      1 December 2020 01: 17
      This is an allegory, probably ...
      Squirrel
  40. -3
    30 November 2020 16: 43
    in general, I realized one thing ... it's time to demand and hard back Alaska, which was leased for a hundred years ................
  41. +6
    30 November 2020 17: 47
    Quote: YOUR
    In military terms, the Far East makes a depressing sight. Abandoned military towns and even entire cities, for example Zavitinsk, destroyed airfields, destroyed fortified areas, even managed to abandon the border posts, it’s good at least the weapons were taken out or rendered unusable. Air defense was almost completely destroyed, military medicine was destroyed. Achievements however.

    Lord, you can also see this under St. Petersburg. The problems are bigger than the Far East.
  42. +29
    30 November 2020 18: 19
    We have a Minister for the Development of the Far East. Judging because for a week 140 thousand people froze to death in Vladivostok, we do not do anything intelligible there
  43. +5
    30 November 2020 18: 28
    What ours have done previous authorities, really is a huge betrayal, a huge damage to the state's defense.

    The author, excuse me, but what kind of "previous authorities" are they? Since 91, our government has not changed. And even the current one is the absolute heiress of the one that was in 91-2000. , in all parameters and vectors.
  44. 0
    30 November 2020 18: 44
    In the future, we need to increase it. How? I have no answer.

    The answer is simple - social housing housing construction
  45. -1
    30 November 2020 19: 00
    Cry from the heart!
    Good article on the topic of the day.
  46. 0
    30 November 2020 19: 44
    Everyone to work, work hard. Shoot all the trash - that's about this article.
  47. +5
    30 November 2020 21: 24
    The author claims that Russia has neither human, military, nor material resources. Under the current system, they will never appear. But under certain circumstances, Russia will revive easily and quickly, like the Phoenix bird.
  48. +4
    1 December 2020 00: 54
    About "Russia's tasks in the Far East."
    Sometimes it is useful to look at google-maps (satellite) in high magnification, which is done on one side and on the other side of the border of Russia, for example, Russia and China in the Vladivostok region. But the Far East is no exception, where people allegedly live unusually poorly. You can look, for example, at the border of Russia and Finland - there the climate there is also not very good ... Or Russia and Latvia, even Russia and Norway! Karelia and Finland are like ethnically close peoples, but there is an obvious difference between Finland in comparison with Karelia proper, and in comparison with the "Karelian isthmus", that is, the north-west of the Leningrad region. The satellite images show that on the one hand there are countless households, roads, cultivated fields, and on the other - usually the maximum of the visible traces of "humanity" - deforestation. China is a coastal region: the difference is also obvious. Southern Kuriles and the adjacent coast of Hokaido! There is almost nothing, but here almost the entire coastal strip is built up, countless harbors fenced off from the ocean by dams. Build a dam - no problem! .. But this is only for the Japanese. sad On the Southern Kuril Islands there is, in general, not a single one (although there are several natural bays and a couple of such "transverse" piers in these bays, to which one ship can moor from the inner side of the bay). Say - this is because Hokkaido is, although an island, but big and this is Japan itself, and the southern Kurils are just small islands? Yes. But the Japanese also have islands. Let's see Risini and Rebun at the northern tip of Hokkaido. It's the same there: countless harbors, towns and a well-populated coastline.
    Something is wrong at the conservatory ... sad
  49. +1
    1 December 2020 06: 34
    Thinking analogies and metaphors ... Recognize the style)
  50. 0
    1 December 2020 11: 41
    Our concept of the Russian Far East is too broad. In fact, most of it is Eastern Siberia.
  51. 0
    1 December 2020 14: 56
    “What the previous authorities did”, it seems the author has become out of touch with reality, the previous authorities at least did something and the outflow of youth began under this government, which only talks and does nothing, then this is to blame
    There are always excuses.
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  53. +2
    1 December 2020 21: 54
    What our previous authorities did is truly a huge betrayal, a huge damage to the defense capability of the state.

    What were the previous authorities? Soviet authority? Autocracy? So, under the Soviets and the Tsars, with different speeds and problems, the Far East and Siberia annexed and developed, territories were developed, cities were built, and the population grew. I don’t know any other previous authorities, unless you dig deep into the centuries. I know the real power, which was finally formed by 1994. And this power is the power of parasites. Parasites don't care who they live on. The whole strategy of parasites is to suck the juices from the host and stay on it as long as possible, ideally until death. What Wolverine bears!? Rats, lice, worms!
    Russia's strategy in the Far East has long been clearly formulated at the highest level. It is enough to read Russia's military doctrine to understand this.

    It is easy to formulate a doctrine. Especially at the highest level. How many of them have already been and will still be. Beautiful doctrines and strategies for all the good against all the bad. How to do it? Who will carry it out, and most importantly, what will be the penalty for its implementation or non-compliance? In a month we will remember the wonderful but dead Strategy 2020, also known as Putin’s Plan. Author, I forgot, you haven’t previously written the lines “The strategy for the socio-economic development of Russia for the near future is clearly formulated at the highest level. It is enough to read the sections of “Strategy 2020” to understand this”?
  54. +1
    2 December 2020 09: 28
    The tasks of the modern Russian leadership are two:
    1) Finish off the local population. It only takes 10 years.
    2) Lease the territory to China. This process is already underway.
  55. 0
    3 December 2020 02: 34
    the mother with the brood is a bummer of course
    but you need to manage to cross paths with her and bring her “to the assemblage point”
    she will sense you in advance and bypass you
    I just got over it. safely
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  58. 0
    4 December 2020 13: 39
    We are a big country with a small population. And we destroyed the environment many times worse than the Chinese. Maybe if our country was small. We took care of it for ourselves and our descendants
  59. 0
    5 December 2020 22: 52
    Where does security begin in real life and the creative activity of the minds of living people? Why did the USSR collapse when the state was protected as never before? Because the thinking nature of the minds of living people was injected with a narcotic spiritual poison from the information corpse of political advertisements, and turned into a slave of false sounds from the monetary capital of false and deadly Kabbalistic letters, from the book of claims of the dead to the minds of living people, imposing on it a narcotic illusory dream with the ruling ones over the minds of living people, economic, party, political, oligarchic and other conventional masks of mass bourgeois persons of false ghosts, identifying them with the flesh of the dead, with the market installations of the false phrase buy - sell, brain, flesh, blood, land, buildings, and everything that exists on earth, in earth and in heaven, and being outside the mind and outside the names of the names of existing objects called by the mind of living people, turning the real life and creative activity of the collective mind of living and thinking people into an empty sound and into an abstraction of empty nothingness, Talmudic lawyers with legislative masks political predators from the false sounds of false market, financial, commodity, bourgeois, capitalist and other false phrases, petrified in labels in the ashes of the dead, books of the law of the spiritual death of the minds of living people. They claim that the origin of the economic masks of bourgeois faces is false ghosts, from the money supply of false sounds, to which they “nail” the market mechanism to circulate the false phrase buy and sell, from which “buyers and sellers of false sounds", shopkeepers, bankers, moneylenders, oligarchs, who are rotated in the presidential form of market management of the class skull of the legal entity of the mass capitalist, residing in the abstraction of the value of the trade label, claiming that it consists of the money supply of financial raw materials of the bourgeois ashes of the Only political corpse of the Eternal Jew , emanating from the abstract labor of the earthly dust of a dead man, with which the false and deadly Kabbalistic letters of the law of spiritual death, always existing in the abstraction of empty nothingness, are identified. Thus, having imposed the narcotic illusion of self-deception on the minds of living people, they legitimized theft, murder, robbery, robbery, from a bourgeois legislative fiction with the owners of their own narcotic spiritual industry of the information corpse of political advertisements of financial predators, who are transplanted into the human head from narcotic spiritual products and they “impose” tax on the human brain and turn into a parrot repeating market standards of false phrases from the false phrase buy - sell, and direct it to destroy oneself and the real conditions of one’s own existence, forming an immoral and criminal way of life, imposing narcotic illusions of bourgeois inventions of “bourgeois scientists” theorists , which are identified with the flesh of the dead from false and deadly letters, which the mechanical unit of the bureaucratic machine of spiritual death eternally and endlessly reproduces, increasing the market demand for the ashes of the dead, and demands the destruction of the entire actually existing thinking human race in practice.
  60. 0
    6 December 2020 17: 31
    As for Sonic and Panasonic, ours still doesn’t exist, but Sonic and Panasonic have worked since the 90s and are still working, but the modern salary doesn’t allow for something more expensive(
  61. 0
    7 December 2020 17: 37
    Why did they so happily collapse the USSR? And why are those who did this not judged, but expensive mausoleums are built for them?
  62. 0
    12 December 2020 19: 34
    In general, the article is about nothing. In general, the favorite pastime in Rus' is lying to ourselves. To lull with nonsense. Including the fact that we now have wise leadership that is leading the country to happiness...

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