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The Deep State's puppeteers. White House goes to Joe Biden, no matter what

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The Deep State's puppeteers. White House goes to Joe Biden, no matter what

Information background number 1



Elections in the United States have always been challenging. Initially a very archaic system based on traditions dating back to the XNUMXth century, in the modern world it is ready to confuse anyone. Several times there were precedents when candidates came to power who received fewer live votes than their opponent, if they were voted for by the majority of the notorious electors from the states. It seems that a similar situation is developing in the recent November elections. The current President Trump is desperate to resist, repeating like a mantra:

"We will show massive and unprecedented election fraud!"


From the outside, it seems that the president simply cannot leave the political scene with dignity and is frantically seeking excuses for his own defeat. But it's not that simple.


Source: Gage Skidmore, wikimedia.org

The CIA is also in action


Now, on the swampy soil of the political crisis in the United States, a huge number of conspiracy theories of the development of events are growing. This is a sign of the times. And nothing can be done about it. But in the sea of ​​elective content there are also quite entertaining cases worthy of attention.

A few days ago, the Western media reported about searches in the CIA information centers in Europe. The US military raided the scouts and confiscated several key servers with sensational information regarding the November elections.

The European assets of the main intelligence agency have become an excellent platform for remote falsification of the election results that are now presented to us as official.

In particular, the materials seized in Germany (voting map) clearly indicate that Trump had already won 14 votes from the Electoral College on November 410. The total number of electors is 538 people. And this, of course, was a stunning victory for the incumbent president. Which, it seems, was taken away from him with the active assistance of the intelligence department. How can such a triumph compare? If you believe the results of such a confrontation between the military and the CIA in Germany, then Trump's popularity today is comparable to Roosevelt in 1936. He then received 523 electoral votes.


Former CIA chief John Brennan. Source: Gage Skidmore, wikimedia.org

By the way, the CIA has long and stubbornly criticized the activities of President Donald Trump. Of course, no one in the department speaks openly about this - the rules of subordination and formal apoliticality of intelligence do not allow. But former CIA chief John Brennan quite unequivocally called Trump the worst choice for the United States. Expressing the general opinion of the office staff, the former intelligence chief was unhappy with the country's position on the international arena:

"The weaker the United States and the more tarnished our reputation in the eyes of the world, the less able we are to play the leadership role that we have played over the past 75 years."

Deep State vs Trump


In the US, there is such an amusing term "Deep State" or Deep State.

In short, the country is ruled not by presidents, but by several high-ranking officials-puppeteers associated with the business lobby. Of course all this история it smells of outright conspiracy, but Trump himself repeated it over and over again, which gives the events a veil of veracity.

In particular, he accused Barack Obama of coordinating the efforts of the "Deep State" in order to oppose the current government. And Trump, apparently, managed to seriously annoy the bureaucratic structure of underground leaders when in 2018 he tried to reform the departments of the state apparatus. The reform was simple - to abolish some of the structures completely, and some to add to others. Then Congress turned off the president's initiative, according to rumors, precisely on signals from the notorious Deep State.

Political scientist Malek Dudakov, commenting on the confrontation between the president and the Deep State, reasoned:

“Trump managed to part with the previous practice, when the president, before making decisions, had to listen to the opinion of external experts - for example, military personnel, intelligence officers and others. All of them have had a noticeable impact on previous US presidents. Trump, of course, collects information from external sources, consults with people, but makes the final decisions himself, following his personal political instincts. "


In fact, political independence became the reason for such hatred of the nomenklatura of the state apparatus (read, the "Deep State" asset), which later poured out in support of Joseph Biden. Trump said the Democratic nominee is being run from behind the scenes by "liberal hypocrites." Which, by the way, are also deliberately delaying the COVID-19 vaccine tests, discrediting the current head of the White House.

Ordinary American people also dislike the underground "cabinet of ministers", as they rule the country, regardless of the opinion of the electorate. And this is not forgiven in a freedom-loving country.

Logical chain


Usually in the United States, they remember the conspiracy government in connection with information leaks in the media.

"Accidents are not accidental at all"

ꟷ This thesis was adopted by the PR specialists of the Deep State. Should the story of the CIA servers in Germany be considered part of an underground government campaign? Or is it an obvious blunder of the democratic forces of the United States?

And what about the massive rigging of election results in certain states? Most of the software for the counting machines is developed and owned by companies with some affiliation with the Democratic Party. In Wisconsin and Georgia alone, this software regularly crashed, adding hundreds of thousands of votes to Biden.


Source: Gage Skidmore, wikimedia.org

Back in 2012, Donald Trump warned that Republican Mitt Romney lost the election to Barack Obama only because of juggling votes. That is, the president has long known that the Democrats have everything under control, and they will go to bed to prevent Trump from serving a second term. In this regard, the whole chain of informational stuffing concerning the falsifications and rigging of the last elections seems provocative. Is the democratic lobby so straightforward and devoid of imagination? Or do they deliberately lead to a situation that many media outlets have already called "Plan B"?

If you can't solve the Trump problem in the traditional way, maybe it's time to think about overthrowing? Albeit mild, but still overthrowing. To do this, it is not worth the most balanced president just to provoke. The story with the "real" results of voting on the German servers of the CIA looks in this regard as one of the links in a strictly planned chain.

"Do what you need to do"


Trump looks set to leave the stage with his head held high. The businessman-president is hated by the metropolitan establishment, but adored by the old American hinterland. Already now, the owner of the White House has given the command to begin the procedure for the transfer of power in compliance with all formalities, but publicly refused to acknowledge Biden's victory. Quite worthy behavior of a politician in a deep siege.

And the allegedly independent media continue to whip up hysteria around the tough elections. Maintaining composure and not provoking a power-transfer scenario is very difficult.

On the other hand (practiced on Republican Trump), the procedure for a criminal transfer of power may become common practice for Democrats. If it happened in 2020, why not take advantage of the same in 2024? And the eccentric yet peaceful transfer of power to Biden will seem like a bitter mistake in the future. After all, this is the president's lot - to make fateful decisions in difficult times.

At the end there are several dates that play a major role in the current situation. The power transfer machine in the United States has already been launched and a lot depends on the accuracy of its functioning.

On December 14, 538 electors will officially announce the name of the future US president.

In less than a month (January 20, 2021), the president-elect will take office.

And, if everything goes according to the plan of the political elites of the United States, Biden will become the master of the White House.
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  1. Far B
    Far B 28 November 2020 04: 46
    +11
    On December 14, 538 electors will officially announce the name of the future US president.

    In less than a month (January 20, 2021), the president-elect will take office.
    Trump still has time to pump up coconuts and say his weighty "Ooh!"
    Come on Trump! I believe in you, Trump!
    (I want an action-packed documentary overseas movie. No, well, the seeds have already been purchased, cho).
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 November 2020 04: 51
      +7
      oh ... I'm so worried about America, I can't even eat ... fellow
      1. lucul
        lucul 28 November 2020 09: 02
        +7
        oh ... I'm so worried about America, I can't even eat ...

        These elections, one way or another, indirectly concern us.
        In the US, there is such an amusing term "Deep State" or Deep State.
        In short, the country is ruled not by the presidents, but by several high-ranking officials-puppeteers associated with the business lobby. Of course, this whole story smells like outright conspiracy, but Trump himself repeated it over and over again, which gives the events a veil of veracity.

        Open secret, America has long been run by Zionists, and the president is a talking head there.
        Trump is the first attempt by amers to return power to their own hands, but it did not work ... yet))))
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 28 November 2020 11: 26
          +3
          Quote: lucul
          America has long been ruled by Zionists

          And also reptilians and aliens from the Alpha Centauri.
          Quote: lucul
          and the president there is a talking head.

          The president's job is to be a talking head in any country in the world. Or do you think that the president alone rules this or that country?
          1. lucul
            lucul 28 November 2020 16: 44
            +11
            And also reptilians and aliens from the Alpha Centauri.

            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 28 November 2020 16: 47
              +1
              Quote: lucul
              And also reptilians and aliens from the Alpha Centauri.

              You would read, perhaps, who are the Zionists. Or reading is not your strong point?
              And do not forget to tell about the "protocols of the wise men of Zion".
              1. Chervonny
                Chervonny 29 November 2020 15: 31
                +23
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Would you read who the Zionists are

                We read: After the Second World War, he (Zionism) became the only movement of Jewish nationalism.

                The United States has the Zionist Organization of America. SOA is currently one of the largest organizations with a pro-Israel position.

                Among the areas of activity - strengthening US-Israeli relations, educational programs, support for pro-Israel decisions in Congress, the fight against anti-Israeli disinformation in the media, textbooks, guidebooks, university campuses.
        2. rruvim
          rruvim 28 November 2020 12: 30
          +2
          Zionists, Zionists ... It would be correct to paraphrase: that behind the backs of the Democrats are the Pharisees, and behind the backs of the Republicans are the Sadducees.
        3. Arthur 85
          Arthur 85 28 November 2020 23: 08
          0
          I want to remember Pushkin's poem, I want to remember, but I can't ...
          But other verses came to mind:
          I would go to the Zionists,
          Let them teach me!
          ***
          Zionists, Zionists,
          Hands are clean, feet are clean.
        4. skullcap
          skullcap 4 December 2020 23: 37
          0
          In the US, there is such an amusing term "Deep State" or Deep State.
          The article "Democracy as a latent dictatorship of crime" was published in VO.
          This joke with the presidential elections in the United States is a vivid confirmation of the fact that the United States is governed by a global organized criminal group under the guise of "democracy".
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 28 November 2020 11: 23
        -1
        Quote: Aerodrome
        oh ... I'm so worried about America, I can't even eat.

        I love them. "Putin's detachments" are our everything. I didn’t laugh like that when I was Khazanov.
    2. Megatron
      Megatron 28 November 2020 05: 13
      +10
      Honestly, we are essentially purple who will be there. Overseas - OUR NO.
      1. Far B
        Far B 28 November 2020 05: 24
        +4
        In fact, it is purple. But we all love high-quality action movie? Well I say: pivas, seeds. And to me they were like: "There won't be a keen, the cinematographer was thumping." No, well, really not the same, right?
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 28 November 2020 08: 03
          0
          We do not choose the American president, and it is not for us to disentangle it. wink
          1. Imobile
            Imobile 28 November 2020 09: 15
            -9
            Americans have turnover. For them, the president cannot influence the decisions of the courts, demand teachers and governors to draw more. Remove or poison the unwanted. How I envy them with envy
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 28 November 2020 11: 20
              +12
              How I envy them with envy
              And how about the Negro boots kiss laughing Don't you envy this opportunity?
            2. Machito
              Machito 28 November 2020 12: 37
              +9
              Quote: Imobile
              Americans have turnover. For them, the president cannot influence the decisions of the courts, demand teachers and governors to draw more. Remove or poison the unwanted. How I envy them with envy

              Yeah, George W. Bush replaced George W. Bush. Bill Clinton's possessed wife nearly became president. Roosevelt dynasty and unconstitutional THIRD PRESIDENCY TERM.
              The United States is a military dictatorship dressed up in democratic attire for the common people. Everything is decided by the tycoons from the military-industrial complex, like Hitler.
              1. Imobile
                Imobile 28 November 2020 22: 00
                -4
                There is changeability, if they voted for Bush, it is because they wanted to. They commemorated the courts and the Senate. How long do we have the St. Petersburg organized crime group in power? More than 20 years old? Our entire electoral system has been destroyed, and only the "elected" can be elected
                1. Machito
                  Machito 29 November 2020 11: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Imobile
                  There is changeability, if they voted for Bush, it is because they wanted to. They commemorated the courts and the Senate. How long do we have the St. Petersburg organized crime group in power? More than 20 years old? Our entire electoral system has been destroyed, and only the "elected" can be elected

                  Petersburg already got it. As a native Muscovite, I'll tell you this. And democracy ended when Ivan the Terrible Vechevoy Bell brought to Moscow from Novgorod.
                  1. Megatron
                    Megatron 30 November 2020 11: 48
                    +1
                    Moscow has never lived so well ... as with St. Petersburg wassat
            3. Kapany3
              Kapany3 28 November 2020 14: 03
              +3
              Go and kiss a Negro Well ***
              1. Chervonny
                Chervonny 29 November 2020 15: 33
                +20
                Quote: Kapany3
                Go and kiss a Negro Well ***

                Have you already traveled, kissed? belay wassat
          2. tank64rus
            tank64rus 28 November 2020 11: 15
            +3
            But the whole world will disentangle it.
          3. paul3390
            paul3390 28 November 2020 17: 01
            0
            We don't really choose ours either, but for some reason we disentangle it?
      2. Imobile
        Imobile 28 November 2020 10: 00
        -6
        Quote: Megatron
        Overseas - OUR NO.

        There are more Russians than in Russia, so everything is not so simple.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 28 November 2020 11: 22
          +7
          There are more Russians than in Russia
          Are you serious or a metaphor? There are more Latvians there than in Latvia, but it is true that there are one and a half million of them in Latvia. With the Russians, this option does not work.
          1. Imobile
            Imobile 28 November 2020 22: 03
            -5
            If the children of Russians wrote the nationality Russian, there would be more. And every day there are more of them. And if there were no difficulties, almost everyone would have gone there
      3. Doliva63
        Doliva63 28 November 2020 18: 14
        +1
        Quote: Megatron
        Honestly, we are essentially purple who will be there. Overseas - OUR NO.

        Come on! laughing
        1. bayard
          bayard 30 November 2020 11: 16
          +1
          Quote: Doliva63
          Overseas - OUR NO.

          Come on!

          There is Sanya from Florida!
          And someone else ...
      4. bayard
        bayard 30 November 2020 11: 15
        0
        Quote: Megatron
        Overseas - OUR NO.

        What about Donald?
        Our agent?
        Is our everything in the fight against world and other evil?
        It is a sin to throw so many cadres!
        "Cadres decide EVERYTHING" ... that's what Comrade Stalin said.
  2. DimanC
    DimanC 28 November 2020 04: 55
    +11
    I have already read more than one article about this. And almost all as one repeat the same thing: well, accept it, well agree, well, finally admit that Biden will be president. Were there stuffing, fraud, etc.? So what. Anyway, humble yourself and agree.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 28 November 2020 08: 02
      +1
      From the easy Trump-Daddies fellow America is passing the stage of some murky baida. request
    2. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 28 November 2020 09: 27
      +3
      Yeah, this is exactly what they impose in Belarus. "So what if there were violations in more than half of the polling stations, so what if the protocols were openly falsified - let's accept and agree with the one who secretly (with 80% of the declared support) conducted his inauguration. So what"
      Sadly all this ...
    3. Cosm22
      Cosm22 28 November 2020 11: 36
      -3
      Did you personally consider these stuffing?
      Was the fraud personally filmed on camera?
      Or retelling from someone else's words?
      This is a thankless job. You have to stick to the facts. And they are like that.
      The Pennsylvania Court of Appeals denied Trump a revision of the voting results precisely because of the lack of evidence. What else is not clear to anyone?
      Trump, out of his big mind, started a stupid and obviously losing game for himself. And we are not even talking about the presidential elections, but about the by-elections to the Senate. January 5th in Georgia. Where the fate of the two vacancies will be decided. In fact, the question is who will control the Senate. Trump today undermines confidence in the American elections in general with his silly statements. What can he cool back on January 5. For if control of the Senate goes to the Democrats, Trump may find himself on the bunk much sooner than he thinks. The relevant authorities will analyze in detail how Trump fulfilled the prescriptions of tax legislation at one time.
  3. Russ
    Russ 28 November 2020 04: 58
    +2
    Biden has already tried on the chair, now you can't turn it off the throne ... at least four years ...
    Trump has been poked around, and his term has passed ... wink
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 28 November 2020 06: 41
      +2
      his term is off.

      From call to call ... wassat
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 05: 05
    +2
    For this it is not worth the most balanced president just to provoke.

    Already provoked ... a famous Iranian physicist was killed in Iran again ... it looks like a strike is being prepared on important facilities of IRAN ... without the participation and approval of Trump, I think it did not work out ... it's a bad thing ... one careless movement and a real one will begin war.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 28 November 2020 05: 09
      0
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      one careless move and a real war will begin.

      yes not simple, vigorous. recourse
    2. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 28 November 2020 07: 04
      +2
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      For this it is not worth the most balanced president just to provoke.

      Already provoked ... a famous Iranian physicist was killed in Iran again ... it looks like a strike is being prepared on important facilities of IRAN ... without the participation and approval of Trump, I think it did not work out ... it's a bad thing ... one careless movement and a real one will begin war.

      And Trump can loudly slam the door goodbye, leaving Baide in the legacy of the war with Iran! He has nothing to lose, but Baida from his Deep States will have more buzzwords. They, maybe, would have started this war anyway, but hardly right now. They are not ready to fight right now.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 28 November 2020 08: 06
        +1
        Not only the war with Iran, but also the aggravation with China and Russia. It is in this spirit that the provocations near Vladivostok and the teachings that the Americans conducted with the Romanians near the Crimea.
  5. saigon
    saigon 28 November 2020 05: 29
    +15
    The main thing in this whole story is one!
    This is how a true, correct and exemplary democracy looks like, this is not some kind of African hinterland, this is a standard and an example to follow.
    Looking at this, you will not at ease think that the methods of savages with a break in the skull of one of the candidates by another candidate are becoming more honest and transparent, and most importantly, you will not dispute and will not throw up votes.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 05: 44
      0
      the methods of savages with a break in the skull of one of the candidates by another candidate are becoming more honest and transparent, and the main thing is not to dispute and not toss up votes.

      Well why what on the handle of the baton, you can leave the symbols of another tribe ... although what's the point when a defeated rival is usually then fried and eaten at a general meeting of the tribe.
      No man no problem.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 06: 01
      0
      it is a standard and an example to follow.

      smile
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 28 November 2020 11: 22
        +1
        Give it to the starving in Africa)))
    3. Imobile
      Imobile 28 November 2020 11: 05
      -9
      that the methods of the savages with a fractured skull of one of the candidates, the other candidate is more and more honest and transparent and the main thing is not to challenge
      You wanted to write that the methods of the savages with poisoning by "newbie" one of the candidates, the other candidate is more and more honest and transparent and the main thing is not to challenge
      1. saigon
        saigon 29 November 2020 17: 50
        +3
        Nice person, I wrote exactly what I wanted to write, but your passage is somewhat incomprehensible, what is the election and what does it mean whether a poisoned or drunk character?
        Why does Lesha stick everywhere he is of little interest to me, and now all the more so because he is not a significant figure. Lesha in the hillocks followed in the footsteps of Madame Tikhonov's sanction, he wanted to, and this is a stupid move on his part (well, at least he didn’t speak out until he was poisoned, he probably felt better him from this)
    4. Vlad is short
      Vlad is short 29 November 2020 17: 12
      +1
      These elections finally undermined the credibility of the idea of ​​democracy in general.
  6. Free wind
    Free wind 28 November 2020 06: 14
    -7
    Everywhere we have Obama, our Crimea, Trump, only now America is developing, and we, under the leadership of the great and super smart, are rolling into tartar.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 06: 53
      +3
      only now America is developing,

      Yes, yes, the whites are already being brought to their knees for 8 minutes of repentance ... for so long they were strangled by the US police ... they were strangled ... they were strangled, strangled.

      How America is developing.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 28 November 2020 08: 09
        +5
        Democracy is a great thing - it also means freedom for blacks to choke whites! On that and Babylon got burned, that from all over the world he gathered a bunch of freaks. hi
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 28 November 2020 08: 27
      +1
      Quote: Free Wind
      we roll to tar tarara
      I haven't sung the Song of Lazarus since morning - all day wasted.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 November 2020 07: 03
    +3
    "Accidents are not accidental at all"
    Especially when it comes to politics and incl. elections. Even a brick falls on the head for a reason - so fate will say any fatalist. And when the "deep state" operates (with such a wording even the fighters against conspiracy theories already agree), chances are excluded. Well, if only the candidate chokes on chewing gum. But even here questions may arise.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 28 November 2020 08: 57
      -1
      In general, I must admit that Hillary still defeated Trump and threw him off the presidency, as she promised ...
    2. skullcap
      skullcap 4 December 2020 23: 53
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And when the "deep state" is in charge (even the fighters against conspiracy theories agree with this wording

      I propose to clarify the wording: "deep state organized criminal group"
  8. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 28 November 2020 07: 19
    +4
    A few days ago, the Western media reported about searches in the CIA information centers in Europe. The US military raided the scouts and confiscated several key servers with sensational information regarding the November elections.

    If this is true, then this is already something unimaginable! belay
    This is how the American state machine has entered, if the military is insolently going into conflict with the CIA? Has it ever happened? Obviously not a good sign for the United States.
    1. Avior
      Avior 28 November 2020 07: 46
      +7
      Key in your post
      ... If it's true

      smile
      Already two weeks have passed since this "truth" with a map wanders on the Internet, so it reached VO smile
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 28 November 2020 07: 23
    +9
    "I brought the terrible news to your house, Nadezhda! Call the children!" (C) Under the American President Biden, we will live worse than under the American President Trump: prices for goods and services in Russia will rise, incomes will decrease, and the pension is generally bad will be.. laughing
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 07: 33
      -2
      prices for goods and services in Russia will rise, incomes will decrease, and it will be generally bad with a pension ..

      This is not news ... an increase in prices for housing and communal services has already been announced, and after that the rest of the prices will follow ... it's a common thing ... hehe ... we're finished ... everything is gone ... it's time to look for a place in the cemetery.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 28 November 2020 07: 43
        +2
        Yeah, under Trump, life was better ... laughing
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 28 November 2020 07: 49
        +7
        it's time to look for a place in the cemetery.
        ... No need to look, the Federal law, on burials, provided. Everything is in order. They will provide a place, packing, transport and a cross. Orchestra, wreaths, commemoration, this is already at the expense of relatives and friends. So everything is not lost. smile Biden, it doesn't hurt here. smile
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 28 November 2020 08: 08
          +1
          Thank you ... comforted. crying
          1. bessmertniy
            bessmertniy 28 November 2020 08: 22
            +3
            With such care of the state and federal law, you can die for an encore more than once, but several times. what It would be something to remember yourself!
          2. parusnik
            parusnik 28 November 2020 08: 22
            +3
            Thank you not to me, to the government. How did the Chinese have 1000 years of Comrade Mao! 1000 years of our government that cares about the population ... smile
  10. Avior
    Avior 28 November 2020 08: 12
    +6
    If anyone is interested, this is a phenomenal card.

    Appeared on Twitter with a message that allegedly the US military in Germany had searched a private German company and found this map.
    The sheer delirium of this invention was obvious.
    And then the fiction was slightly altered - it turns out that the CIA was searched.
    Here is this article with a link to Twitter, which flashed on the Internet in English.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/unraveling-latest-deep-state-coup/
    As there was no evidence on November 16, when it appeared, there is still no evidence.
    The very next day this invention moves to Russia in Russian
    https://e-news.su/in-world/357336-tramp-nabiraet-410-golosov-vyborschikov-glubokoe-gosudarstvo-perehodit-k-planu-b.html
    Here there is already evidence of the truth of the map - the statement that was shown on TV, then this is an official document! smile
    And she went to write the province across the vast expanses of Mother Russia! Many have published with different variations.
    So I got to VO. sad
    In my opinion, only the brains of the readers are littered with all sorts of rubbish ...
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 28 November 2020 18: 37
      +4
      The funny thing is that the next day the Associated Press, together with Facebook, denied this information, and the Republican Louis Homert admitted that he had spread this fake, allegedly buying an anonymous German tweet in German (https://apnews.com/article/ fact-checking-9754011363).
      But the denial in Runet, in contrast to the fake, never got there, and nonsense walks around the village, capturing more and more masses of gullible hamsters.
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 28 November 2020 19: 21
        +2
        Sometimes I think if there would be a marker of influence on the immature minds of a notorious "duck" - there would be a very interesting picture of distribution.
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 28 November 2020 19: 46
          +3
          Generally speaking, there are hardly any significant regional differences. Hamsters are everywhere. Themes may vary.
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 28 November 2020 19: 51
            +2
            And the percentage, I wonder what? Really on the so beloved Pareto distribution?
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 28 November 2020 20: 14
              +2
              Didn't do such analysis. Perhaps the law so beloved by one of our common acquaintances is also applicable here, but regarding rumors there is a regularity in the spread of rumors, formulated by American psychologists Allport and Postman back in the middle of the last century. They concluded that the range and intensity of the rumor, R, can be roughly calculated by multiplying the importance of the question to the audience (i) by the level of uncertainty about the topic (a). That is, R = i * a. Accordingly, if any of the components is equal to zero, hearing disappears.
              Naturally, in different countries, topics of high importance are different, as is the awareness of the population. That's why I wrote that the map you proposed will depend on the topic. The British today are wearing 5G mobile towers and wearing foil caps, because someone spread the rumor that these towers are spreading covid-19, and they don't care about elections in America.
              And in Russia it is just the opposite.
              Different social strata also have different priorities. Perhaps the Pareto distribution is also involved at this stage.
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 28 November 2020 20: 22
                +1
                Not a bad formula. I think there could be multivariate analysis here. But there are 3-4 significant factors. But for different countries - and the reasons for concern are different. "For whom - what hurts."
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 28 November 2020 20: 39
                  +2
                  Truly multifactorial. After all, the formation of priority topics also depends on many factors. Someone is worried about their own problems, while someone else is on fire from the Ukrainian theme.
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 28 November 2020 20: 46
                    +1
                    And when was the neighbor's (boundary) question simple?
                    You can only influence your own affairs.
  11. K-50
    K-50 28 November 2020 08: 17
    +3
    Yes, a plague on both your "houses"
    Whoever is elected, this does not threaten Russia with anything good! request
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 28 November 2020 08: 39
      +1
      Do not, and shake the flower at home? Do not stop halfway. Trunks among the people are not measured, you can walk from the heart. You look bad for the Masons. wassat
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 November 2020 08: 30
    0
    In less than a month (January 20, 2021), the president-elect will take office.

    Don't believe the author, he has a time shift. stop negative
    And how it will actually be is still a very big question, at least until January 10-12, 2021, at least for me.
  13. Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 November 2020 09: 07
    +2
    The existing system, when everything is decided by electors from the state, and not by the results of a direct vote of the population, makes it possible to bring the right person to power, and not the one who won the election! So, Trump has nothing to wave his fists, he knows how the system works, he was also chosen for a while by means of machinations, but he did not suit the real powers that be. So they appointed him to replace a puppet with sclerosis, which is easier to manipulate!
    1. Imobile
      Imobile 28 November 2020 09: 58
      -3
      Trump should have changed the constitution and reset to zero
    2. Forever so
      Forever so 28 November 2020 22: 45
      0
      In the same way, any Mr., who would not have been admitted in direct elections even before registration, can be promoted to party lists. Any elections above the village level are sheer lies and deception.
  14. nikvic46
    nikvic46 28 November 2020 09: 30
    +2
    Don't show Republicans as whipping boys. Don't put your finger in their mouths either. And in the next elections they use the methods of Democrats. And in general, it's funny to talk about fair elections against this background. They were not fair before.
    1. Imobile
      Imobile 28 November 2020 11: 00
      +1
      What are the methods ??????? I've watched the elections, there are none of my own. The first thing I liked was that the president is not a king and can communicate with an opponent who can say everything in person. The debates immediately show who the strong president is. Ours put it in his pants, he was even afraid to communicate with impassable candidates. Even they would smear Putin. Therefore, 24/7 Putin was shown on TV and other media, others were either not shown or only negatively, and negatively on fakes. In America, there is no such thing, it was covered evenly. We are 70 years behind America in development, and 300 years behind in democracy!
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 28 November 2020 12: 00
        +2
        I am also more impressed by their debates. As Peter the Great said: "I will tell the senators at assemblies and in the presence of gentlemen to speak only in words, and not according to the written word, so that everyone's foolishness can be seen by everyone." We don't even have anything like this in Russia. When the "eternal candidate" comes out, he throws "slogans-words" about nothing on a piece of paper, like, "I'll do everything to make everything better," and that's all ... Grandmothers are on the bench- "That's what a candidate! How beautiful everything is He promised! It's better to have him all the same! Well, it's not a "Horse" to choose! And what about Grudinin, they heard, he has accounts in Switzerland and even gold! What kind of president he is, he has everything in Switzerland! And our "father" , goal, like a falcon and promises well ... our faith to him ... "Ugh.
        PS: By the way, I really heard the conversation between the "grandmothers" and brought it up almost literally ....
  15. iouris
    iouris 28 November 2020 12: 30
    +3
    "What will happen to the Motherland and to us ?!"
  16. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 28 November 2020 14: 46
    +4
    I would like the United States to pound a little! Not for long, but so that they would feel in their own skin what political instability and uncertainty about the future are, when you fall asleep in one country and wake up in another! And so that the boomerang of color revolutions would return to where it was launched from!
    1. iouris
      iouris 28 November 2020 15: 15
      -1
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      And so that the boomerang of color revolutions would return to where it was launched from!

      In your case, to. In some cases, Whatever. Particles are written with a hyphen - something, - something, - something.
      The USA is just a powerful tool in its hands. There are rich people in the world.
  17. Tank hard
    Tank hard 28 November 2020 21: 15
    +2
    Joe Biden gets the White House

    Doesn't sound politically correct in the current situation in the United States. We urgently need to rename it to the African American House. What will happen, tk. with the arrival of old Biden, nothing will change in the racial problems of the United States, as they were forced to kneel before the memory of Floyd's boot, so it will be. How does this threaten the state called the United States? And nothing good in perspective. Let's wait, we'll watch ... wink
  18. Forever so
    Forever so 28 November 2020 22: 40
    0
    The "deep state" consisting of people with funny surnames openly threw off all masks and completely lost the principle of election itself. We already know about these principles, when no matter what the chosen one freely passes to G, do you understand D according to party lists and begins to write laws for us there. , if you can safely lead them through foreign points)) In general, Bets are made, the cards are discarded, a new redistribution of the world has entered the home stretch. No wonder the saying goes - When a gentleman is not satisfied with the rules of the game, the gentleman changes these rules.
  19. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 29 November 2020 00: 10
    0
    They are of course influential people and families, but this is far from a state and there are many such people and families, and everyone has their own and different wishes.
    Most importantly, they cannot issue an order or pass a law, and in order to influence something seriously, hundreds if not thousands of different people must agree among themselves.
    There is no deep state.
  20. Free wind
    Free wind 29 November 2020 08: 38
    -2
    Well, you won't get a pension or a salary from the prosecutor's office or cop
  21. Antifreeze
    Antifreeze 29 November 2020 13: 15
    +18
    The country is run not by presidents, but by several high-ranking officials-puppeteers associated with the business lobby

    We have a little bit differently - the current president is connected by friendly ties with the business lobby.
  22. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 29 November 2020 13: 54
    +2
    When you see another description of the "deep state" at such a powerful level
    Trump managed to part with the previous practice, when the president, before making decisions, was obliged to listen to the opinion of external experts - for example, military personnel, intelligence officers and others.
    it's not even funny. Well, American commentators, what to take from them ...
    The "deep state" is absolutely inevitable in a democracy. The state is simply impossible if every four years it is "screwed up, screwed up and screwed up". Therefore, naturally, it is not ruled by the president and the ministers not appointed by him. The United States would have ceased to exist long ago if it tried to do so. It is easy to see this in many states that have implemented this utmost stupidity in themselves. Believing Americans is such a separate kind of madness ...
    In general, America was ruled by super-professionals for many decades, sitting in specialized departments, usually in not so high positions. They were the ones who always solved all practical issues, having constant coordination with each other and with the real American power - its business. All the levers of real control converged to these people, they never hesitated to kill people in any quantity, if necessary, to violate any American laws and regulations, hiding any of their operations as they saw fit.
    These people continuously worked in their positions for 30-40 years, using absolutely incredible power, and used the elections only as one of their tools. Why? Because their work has made the United States the undisputed leader of the world. No one dared to challenge their authority or oppose their actions - their results were always beyond all expectations.
    But such a system, by far the most effective in the world today, also has weaknesses and vulnerabilities. Her main weakness, as is usually the case, is her strength. In this case, it is that the work is carried out by secret super-professionals. It was enough, using the contacts in the families of the largest businessmen, to find out enough names of these operators, and for them it was all over. Apparently, they were simply destroyed. Physically. And everything quickly fell down ...
    Of course, each of these people had a potential successor and a certain staff of executors of the most delicate and delicate matters. But all this is very few in number (a distinctive feature of real masters - if the work cannot be done by five of them, it should not be done at all)) and has no obvious power. You remove the main thing, then a little effort, and the entire control system, for example, the energy sector is decapitated. You put your man near the levers you know about ...
    In general, it seems that Mrs. Clinton and her friends did all this. And as soon as I did it, everything in America fell in one fell swoop. Her people are not only not super-professionals, they are not even professionals. In order to resist, they had to destroy almost all such people both in the state and in business. Everyone can see exactly at what moment it happened. Remember when the US suddenly started making mistake after mistake? Hehe ...
    At the moment, they have no choice. They cannot give up the levers - they will all be destroyed for the colossal harm they inflicted. But they are not able to manage properly there - not that level! The main tragedy of the United States now is that it no longer has a "deep state". There is only a dummy. And this dummy spoils more and more ...
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 1 December 2020 09: 56
      +1
      I think that the destruction of the most perfect governance structure on the planet at the moment was greatly facilitated by China. Not in itself, but the situation with globalization created by the banksters and which the American GG missed. The real rulers, of course, could not help but catch up and start hindering the transfer of production facilities from the United States to China and Asia in general.
      And then they found themselves in contradiction with big business. Because the country's strategic interests are serious. But businessmen have to pay bills every day, and big businesses have huge bills. And how to be? In China, labor is several times cheaper, try not to transfer production! You will quickly stop being a big businessman. Mutual accusations began. And the attempts of the GG to introduce duties back and again act in the mainstream of protectionism were torpedoed by the banks.
      Here they quarreled to death, and the most power-hungry group of the most stupid, considering themselves the most intelligent (apparently the so-called "Obama group") began their actions ...
  23. Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 29 November 2020 16: 59
    0
    A funny term - the Deep State, it wanders everywhere on the Runet ... And this is actually good or bad ...
  24. Barmal
    Barmal 29 November 2020 18: 40
    0
    Puppeteers of the Deep State.

    I have already read it as the Pigeon State. So be it.
  25. zenion
    zenion 2 December 2020 14: 35
    -1
    Gavtor never explained how Trump broke through to the presidency if they didn't want him? Probably there is an anus through which you can break through. It's like a black hole in space. For some, it opens, for others it becomes constipated. Now the daddy of this sink wants it to be so, then for him it is so.
  26. KOLORADO73
    KOLORADO73 4 December 2020 10: 58
    -3
    Trump is a political marginal in power! He became president quite by accident during the manipulation of public consciousness during the 2016 elections!
  27. KOLORADO73
    KOLORADO73 4 December 2020 12: 56
    -1
    The Bidenites are already sharing key posts in the presidential administration! Trump and his team are in prison!
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  29. viktor_47
    viktor_47 12 December 2020 19: 45
    0
    And Trump can't leave! If he wants to live, of course. Not only does he have full information about the falsification of the elections, but his word will always be weighty if he decides to make this information public. And the best conspiracy theorists are, as you know, the dead ...