"We got access to the entire Turkic world": Turkey assessed the results of the war in Karabakh

The Karabakh war, victorious for Azerbaijan, solved not only the stagnant territorial problem. It has far-reaching consequences for the future of the entire Turkic world, which has received a chance for reunification. Of course, under the auspices of Ankara.

This opinion was voiced by Turkish expert Ahmet Alemdar on the pages of Defense Turk. In his words, first of all, the war united Baku and Ankara.

The former relations between Turkey and Azerbaijan are in the past. [Conflict] Spawned Stronger Solidarity Than Expected

- the author considers.

He means, first of all, the emergence, as a result of the trilateral agreement, of a direct transport link between the main territory of Azerbaijan and Turkey through the Armenian Zangezur. According to the expert, as a result, Ankara gets access to the entire Turkic world [apparently, we are talking about access to the Caspian region], for which Turkey will become a link with the West.

As Alemdar explains, along with this, the victory over the "invincible Armenian army" achieved by common efforts showed all the Turks the benefits of consolidation.

This means a military victory for the Turkic world. We got access to the entire Turkic world. This is an important example for the whole world [...] Her [victory] can be taken as an example for solving other problematic issues of the region

- Alemdar assesses the results of the Karabakh war, pointing out that Ankara is always ready to share its rich experience of "restoring peace".

Thus, the Turkish expert makes it clear that, in his opinion, "an important example for the whole world" is war ...

Comments

[tihonmarine]

This means a military victory for the Turkic world. We got access to the entire Turkic world.

The Turks are nearby, it's time to close the Russian-Azerbaijani border.

[sav]

Russia also has a direct connection with Turkey.

[Yujanin]

Russia also has a direct connection with Turkey.

Moreover, not through Georgia. Also (if the Armenians grow wiser) the Yerevan-Baku-Moscow railway will give a discharge to the Armenian economy, which is in a state of clinical death. Well, the Russian Federation will connect the South Caucasus Railways (incurring losses) with the Russian Railways. In addition, the maintenance of the Russian military contingent in Armenia will become much cheaper.
In general, if from now on the parties give up enmity and political games, then everyone will benefit from peace.

[Alex777]

In general, if from now on the parties give up enmity and political games, then everyone will benefit from peace.

Material incentives for reconciliation have never been superfluous.
As for the rallying around Turkey - armchair nonsense.
No one else has such conflicts. "Experience" is not needed.
Biden will now push the Turks - everyone will run away from them.

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

Sooner or later, this had to happen again under Russian participation. The Arab world has the right to reunification and so it will be. It is important to preserve Russian participation in it as well as in Chinese and Indian. Russia has done a lot useful in the world for the peoples, in contrast to the evil Anglo-Saxons, where it also invested a lot. Russia in the center of the world. Congratulations.

[andrew42]

The Turkic world and the Arab world are not at all an identity.

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

Guys, we need to soberly assess the time and learn to live in it. The time will come and people will become like Gods, subordinate only to themselves. Knowledge, culture, behavior, ability will become the main factor together of class struggle, corruption, nationality and state, with all respect for the past. Everything will mix, the framework will break, the highest values ​​will come to the fore. So let's master them as the most powerful weapon in the Universe. It is important to go there first and gain the irresistible power of perfect thought. Others will come there later. Nobody will covet such a system because they will lose. Slavism / Rus is culturally and spiritually closest to it, it is only necessary to consistently implement such a system with the corresponding accumulation of overwhelming power. To do this, everything must only exist evolutionarily without wars on their lands and using their greatest resources intellectually go ahead of the entire planet in this direction. And not to drink everything in one fell swoop, corrupt, forgive. "God is not in power, but in righteousness." This is how Russia collected its lands. And now they give me -10 for this.

[andrew42]

So I agree with everything that you have written. But this is the maximum task. In the meantime, the "Slavs / Rus" you mentioned cannot solve the immediate minimum tasks of preserving "culture, behavior, abilities" - the carriers are disunited and are dying out quantitatively. Because the modern Russian "state" as a form does not correspond to the content, you cannot whip sour cream in a garbage can. so that without the State, as a "vessel" containing an idea, there is no way. As for the "worlds" (Arabic, Turkic, Western, etc.), I will note that the concept of our Russian world (in the broad sense, not in the narrowly national one) is regularly vulgarized and replaced by worship of that "education" in which the population of our lands dies out at 350 thousand a year.

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

And I agree with you completely. Russia is divided, it is influenced by many external forces, but its own is not enough. This is in all countries and peoples. But something must be done and actively, exceeding destructive connections. To do this, people need to be organized together and have an agreed upon desirable platform. But one must look not so much backward as forward. Where are these leaders? We must start with them. The main thing is will and truth. They will clean everything up. Give nothing to anyone else. And do not believe. Only to their leaders. ...

[Dym71]

Quote: tihonmarine

it's time to close the Russian-Azerbaijani border.

Afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Dym71

Afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest.

Yes, a wolf is not terrible for a man in the forest, a flock is terrible, as Turkish mercenary terrorists are terrible.

[Dym71]

Quote: tihonmarine

how scary Turkish mercenary terrorists are

Vlad, the Turks are hilling Tatarstan, there is no borderline, this is not an option.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Dym71

Vlad, the Turks are hilling Tatarstan, it’s not an option not to put a border there.

Yes, they huddle everything, where something is bad.

[Dym71]

Quote: tihonmarine

where is that bad

That's where the point is! We can’t bring it to the point that "it was bad", everything should be in business!

[arnulla]

More specifically about hilling, can you? In my opinion, no more than other regions, if there is a mutual interest. Nobody spills Russia like our bureaucrats and the oligarchy associated with them

[Dym71]

Quote: arnulla

More specifically about hilling? In my opinion, no more than other regions, if there is mutual interest.

In the course of the investigation of previously initiated criminal cases, it was found that the class teachers and educators (citizens of Turkey) in the boarding schools No. 4 of Kazan, No. 79 Naberezhnye Chelny, No. 24 of Nizhnekamsk regularly, including in private apartments, “conduct religious talks with students content, in particular about the existence of the afterlife and the fact that the official understanding of the Koran widespread in Tatarstan is incorrect ”. Pupils are advised to keep the content of these conversations secret.
© Newspaper Republic of Tatarstan

http://rt-online.ru/p-rubr-prav-27293/

[Sergey Matveev]

Turkey plays a very active role in such an international organization as the Turkic Council, whose members are Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. This organization is intended to unite the states, in which the majority of the population are representatives of the Turkic peoples, in order to strengthen mutual cooperation. Headquarters in Istanbul. Tatarstan for the Turks is, in my opinion, a second plan. First, they will "subjugate" Central Asia.

[Dym71]

Quote: Sergey Matveev

Tatarstan for the Turks is, in my opinion, a second plan. First, they will "subjugate" Central Asia.

The priority may change, depending on the political situation, Crimean Tatars on what plane?

[Sergey Matveev]

Quote: Dym71

Crimean Tatars on what plane?

I think that the same as with Tatarstan, in the second place, after Central Asia.

Quote: Dym71

Priority subject to change

Can. But for now they are moving along the list of members of the Turkic Council.

[BDRM 667]

«We got access to the entire Turkic world": Turkey assessed the results of the war in Karabakh

Actually, this is just a statement of the fact of neo-Ottoman, pan-Turkic sentiments in the society and politics of modern Turkey under the leadership of Erdogan.

And it is interesting that now, to such statements, numerous Azerbaijani commentators can say, who said that the presence of Turkey in the Karabakh war is only "brotherly step", and nothing more ?

[Dym71]

Quote: BDRM 667

And it’s interesting what many Azerbaijani commentators can say to such statements now

Much can be said, but in fact Aliyev is Azerbaijan, not Turkey.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Dym71

in fact, Aliyev is Azerbaijan, not Turkey.

Bye Bye Bye At this rate ...

[Dym71]

Quote: BDRM 667

Bye Bye Bye

How many years have we been talking like that for unification with Belarusians, but things are still there, despite the fact that Father doesn't have oil, and Ilham Heydar oglu has tonsils.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Dym71

How many years have we been talking like that for unification with Belarusians, but things are still there, despite the fact that Father doesn't have oil, and Ilham Heydar oglu has tonsils.

The fact of the matter is that OIL ...
An energy carrier and raw material that the Turks desperately need.
And the integration of Turkey and Azerbaijan ... Can you find a closer integration than joint planning and conducting a military operation in Karabakh?

You cited as an example the stuck cart of the Union State, while the Turks' cart, although it creaks, still rides. And it is not known where it will still go with our connivance and blatant inaction.

[Dym71]

Quote: BDRM 667

An energy carrier and raw material that the Turks desperately need.

And considerable funds, sufficient for Aliyev's sovereign policy.

[9PA]

Does the EU, USA, Israel need the Turkic world? Will they hinder him. Are we not achieving certain far-reaching goals by feeding the ambitions of the Sultan? Or we should stand here as a wall from the Turkic world, as far as is beneficial for us. Who will be a military counterbalance to the Turks in the BV, what to do with the real subject of politics, the headstrong sultan. No wonder Volodya saved him all the same

[BDRM 667]

Quote: 9PA

Does the EU, USA, Israel need the Turkic world? Will they hinder him.

It is unlikely to hinder, but they will try to manage the process of its promotion by Turkey in the context of their own interests.

[9PA]

It seems to me that Erdogan has shown himself to be headstrong, after the coup he can even be suspicious. Puts itself on a par with the EU. Then they should eliminate him. It is unlikely that he will become the spearhead of Western policy

[tihonmarine]

Quote: BDRM 667

Actually, this is just a statement of the fact of neo-Ottoman, pan-Turkic sentiments in society

Pilsudskiy also started doing this with his counterintelligence service "Dvuika", pushing the peoples of the USSR against each other, and this continues to this day. Muslim peoples occupied a special place here.

[Snail N9]

Well, well ... let the "Turkic world" unite - the flag is in his hands. Apparently, history has not taught Perdogan anything - he forgot what the "emperors" and "empires" end with, especially in the "Middle East" ...

[Alex777]

The Turks are nearby, it's time to close the Russian-Azerbaijani border.

Since when should we be so afraid of the Turks that it is "time to close the border with friendly Azerbaijan" ?!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: tihonmarine

Turks are near, it's time to close the Russian-Azerbaijani border

Turks are nowhere ... bluff is good at poker. In politics, he rarely rolls. Does everyone remember that there was only one nationality in the Ottoman Empire? Turkish. And all the Turkic peoples agree to this? While the Turks are connected with Azerbaijan by the railway through Georgia, and even with the change of track in Akhalkalaki ... and the Georgians are not Turks at all. IMHO, the louder the statements, the less grounds under them.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Does everyone remember that there was only one nationality in the Ottoman Empire? Turkish.

What are you

[Eugene-Eugene]

Does everyone remember that there was only one nationality in the Ottoman Empire? Turkish

Read about the "Great Idea" of the Greeks during their time in the empire. How to restore Byzantium based on Ports.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

Read about the "Great Idea" of the Greeks during their time in the empire. How to restore Byzantium based on Ports

I'm talking about the late Turetchina. When tolerance towards the Gentiles ended. And what did the Greeks want there ... we know how their Wishlist ended ...

[Eugene-Eugene]

So it was a period of disintegration, they were torn to pieces even by the Balkan "tigers". The whole empire was shaken, and then its remnants, the Greeks did not take almost half of Asia Minor. Fertile ground for rabid nationalism and genocide, which they will forever haunt.

[Suleiman]

Maybe Tatarstan along the perimeter?

[Victor_B]

The Turks are rubbing their hands!
They tightly tied Azerbaijan to themselves and, in fact, got access to the Caspian Sea, and there "across the road" Turkmenistan.

[alexmach]

Did they actually tie it and get it. Good question.
Turkmenistan? And what about Turkmenistan? One can only wish the very best in Turkmenistan.

[Alex777]

Did they actually tie it and get it. Good question.

Yes, this is Turkish delirium from the couch.

[Nyrobsky]

At one time, an agreement was signed stating that no other countries can carry out their activities or exercise their military presence in the Caspian, except for those countries that have direct access to the sea. So here the Turks will have to settle this issue not only with Turkic Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, but with Russia and Iran too. Something suggests that it will be possible to agree only in terms of transit and transshipment of goods, but their volumes will also be limited by some kind of tonnage quotas and increased environmental requirements for ships, due to the increased concern for sturgeon living in the Caspian Sea.

[Tusv]

Quote: Victor_B

They firmly tied Azerbaijan to themselves and in fact got access to the Caspian

The way to the Caspian Sea lies through Armenia. The Sultan's plan for the Nakhichevan-Baku land corridor has been thwarted. What kind of victory are the Turks trying to talk about there? In fact, Erdogan received the notorious "tomatoes" for the downed helicopter. Vladimir Vladimirovich, already at the "highest request" of Pashinyan, is strengthening the border with our border guards. Azerbaijan, Russia won the war, and the Armenians with the Turks are the losing side

and there "across the road" Turkmenistan.

It will be very interesting to see how the "sun-like" Turkmenbashi will negotiate with the "father of all Turkic peoples". Especially when Turkmenistan supplies gas to Europe via the Gazprom transport system practically for mere pennies, and Nabucco needs to be built and Erdogan naively believes at the expense of Turkmenistan

[alexmach]

Azerbaijan, Russia won the war, and the Armenians with the Turks are the losing side

Strange conclusion. Azerbaijan really won, Armenia really lost. Not everything is so simple with Russia and Turkey. Firstly, they did not participate in the war, and secondly, time will tell who and as a result of what, whether the war or diplomacy was a greater gain.

[Tusv]

Quote: alexmach

Not everything is so simple with Russia and Turkey

Russia won without even assuming, and this can be seen with the naked eye. A very decent look over Soros's Armenia and Erdogan's Turkey. And the Turks blew it because Russia won. They can only shout victorious reports

[alexmach]

Russia won without even assuming, and this can be seen with the naked eye

Oh dear, do you seriously believe that it is possible to win something without even thinking? No, for the fact that Russia was able to extract some hypothetical benefit from this situation, a situation that could become a huge failure, the benefits that have yet to be protected and realized, behind all this there is a very serious work. Of course, this almost never happens.

And the Turks blew it because Russia won

Let's see .. as I said, Russia's position has yet to be realized. And the Turks are still trying to reap any fruits of Azerbaijan's victories. My opinion is that not everything here has been decided yet and not everything is clear. This is a game for decades and only after they have passed it will be possible to say who won.

[Tusv]

Quote: alexmach

Do you seriously believe that it is possible to win something without even thinking?

Judging by the very accurate Soviet maps, we have plans for the occupation of the USA But here Turkey really got bogged down. Instead of the border with Azerbaijan, they received Russian border guards, and this is now, not in 20 years. I don’t think that Putin planned such a tasty treat, but took advantage of it with lightning speed.

[alexmach]

I don’t think that Putin planned such a tasty treat, but took advantage of it with lightning speed.

It is believed that without his approval, Aliyev would not have started the war.
Well, what about did you plan ... anything that the final decision corresponds to the protocols signed more than 20 years ago (Madrid or what?)? Coincidence?

[Cyril G ...]

Dead? I do not think so. It was not in vain that Aliyev stopped his horde - thus preventing the supporters of the war from getting a MILITARY VICTORY. He perfectly understands the danger of the growing influence of the Turks.

access to the entire Turkic world

And on this thin artery there is a Russian boot. Did old Erdi really want all this?

[Svarog]

This means a military victory for the Turkic world. We got access to the entire Turkic world. This is an important example for the whole world [...] Her [victory] can be taken as an example for solving other problematic issues of the region

And it's true .. they don't even hide their intentions ..

[alpamys]

The Kremlin will not be happy.

[Alex777]

Fake. Clean water.

[Snail N9]

Let them settle with Turkomans, for "joy" to Azerbaijanis, they will cut each other's throats ...

[alexmach]

Azerbaijanis are not that stupid after all.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Turkey, not Azerbaijan, won in Karabakh.

[Cyril G ...]

I thought so too - now the picture is seen exactly the opposite.

[Trapp1st]

Turkey appreciated the results of the war

Turks are storming from rage to recession. Then everything was lost Russian peacekeepers, then victory, access to the entire Turkic world.

[Ensign19]

The transport corridor was the main goal of this campaign, the return of territories is an accompanying task

[Tusv]

Quote: Ensign19

The transport corridor was the main target of this campaign.

That's it. And the Turks failed this task

[Ensign19]

Let's just say, we have done more than half

[Tusv]

Quote: Ensign19

Let's just say, we did it in half

There is a saying, "Never show the fool half of the completed task." This glass can be half full or empty, and the task is either completed or not. The result of this half is the introduction of Russian peacekeepers with border guards and the air defense is already being deployed

[Ensign19]

The very fact of the appearance of the corridor is already more than half of the task, and the peacekeepers - today they are, in five years, they are gone. Everything is changing.
Tomorrow, for example, the states will start hammering Iran, Turkey will definitely "fit in", open another corridor for itself. Ankara will not miss such an opportunity

[Tusv]

Quote: Ensign19

The very fact of the appearance of the corridor is already more than half the task.

And then there is no corridor. And yes. I don’t remember that our peacekeepers came from somewhere since 1999

[Ensign19]

The corridor will be, which is fixed in the contract.

[Tusv]

Quote: Ensign19

The corridor will be, which is fixed in the contract.

Which contract? 27 km between Nakhchivan and Nagorno-Karabakh is the Armenian land. This is not and cannot be in any contracts. And this task has not been completed even one iota, and our border guards are already on the border with Turkey

[Ensign19]

Don't fantasize. Border guards have never stood on the border with Turkey?
It is necessary to check with knowledgeable people

[Cyril G ...]

Actually, yes, but to this was added control by the FSB over the transport corridor through the territory of Armenia (Nakhichevan - Azerbaijan)

[Ensign19]

Are the border guards not FSB?
Earlier, as far as I remember, the border guards belonged to the KGB

[Cyril G ...]

Until 1992, as part of the KGB, then on a separate voyage until 2006, then again as part of the FSB

[alexmach]

The very fact of the appearance of the corridor is already more than half of the task, and the peacekeepers - today they are, in five years, they are gone.

Where will they go from the territory of Armenia then? A transport corridor has been agreed for Azerbaijan and for non-military goods.

[Ensign19]

Don't confuse peacekeepers with border guards

[Tusv]

Quote: Ensign19

Don't confuse peacekeepers with border guards

Where am I confusing? Russian border guards on the Armenian - Turkish border, peacekeepers in Nagorno Karabakh

[Ensign19]

This is not for you, but for the previous speaker
I write from my phone, I don't bother with highlighting

[alexmach]

Don't you think that the corridor to Nakhichevan can somehow be connected with the corridor to Karabakh? If there is no need for a corridor to Karabakh, then there will be no second corridor either.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Ensign19

then already more than half of the task,

Less - we control the transit corridor. And here the Turks are powerless to do anything ...

[Ensign19]

Consider what you want, but the fact remains: there was no corridor, but now it is

[Archivist Vasya]

As Alemdar explains, along with this, the victory achieved by common efforts over the "invincible Armenian army"

Invincible? Ahaha, call an army with outdated weapons and tactics for conducting a database invincible ... Trepach is this Alemdar, not an expert.

[Dym71]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

This trepach is Alemdar, not an expert.

The phrase in quotation marks is no accident. Do you not allow sarcasm?

[don-1500]

The conclusion at the end of the article is very correct, to the point. The Turks openly propagandize the war, I'm afraid now they will not calm down.

[Simple]

Turkey and Azerbaijan: from European integration to Great Turan

More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/11/25/turciya-i-azerbaydzhan-ot-evrointegracii-k-velikomu-turanu

[Prisoner]

Turks, twist your lip. Come, EPRST!

[cniza]

As far as I understand, inside the economic situation they have seams and this is a distraction work ...

[Threaded screw]

As the opposition began to talk about the economic situation in Turkey, another victory in Karabakh immediately appeared)

[demo]

What interests me the most is who we, Russia and the Russians should be grateful to, "up to the grave of our lives," for a step aimed at saving Erdogan from the putschists?
And what and what was that person thinking?
And most importantly.
Did he achieve the goals that he had in mind?
And for whom does he mostly work - for Russia and its people, or for someone else?

[Victorio]

Quote: demo

That's what I'm most interested in is who we, Russia and the Russians should be grateful to, "to the grave of our lives," for a step aimed at saving Erdogan from the putschists?
And what and what thought that man?

===
Yeah. a man just made such a decision, but what did our experts and advisers think about the consequences then? and what do they think now?

[Alex777]

What interests me the most is who we, Russia and the Russians should be grateful to, "up to the grave of our lives," for a step aimed at saving Erdogan from the putschists?

And for whom does he mostly work - for Russia and its people, or for someone else?

Imagine that there is a pro-American president in Turkey?
Imagine that there is an American missile defense system?
Imagine Trump deployed the INF in Turkey?
And fuck with nonsense - it hurts.

[demo]

I imagine that in Turkey the president is a person who is a member of NATO.
I imagine that the Inzhirlik base stores nuclear ammunition, which the Americans control.
I imagine that Turkey is developing and acquiring INF missiles from its partners.
Well, how is that "nonsense" nice?
Turkey is the enemy. Primordial. Tinted. Inescapable.
Helping her, even in small things, is the greatest folly. Even so - a deliberate betrayal.
Offer and sell the С400 complex, build a nuclear power plant for your own money, build a gas pipeline that is empty, sponsor the economy of this country by redirecting the flow of tourists, buy vegetables and fruits from local farmers, and provide Turkish enterprises with construction contracts in Russia.
Everything was supposed to be 180 degrees the other way around.
And on our poor head, this behavior is personified by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and concurrently the President of the Russian Federation.

[Alex777]

I imagine that in Turkey the president is a person who is a member of NATO.

This was done before Erdogan.

I imagine that the Inzhirlik base stores nuclear ammunition, which the Americans control.

This was done before Erdogan.

I imagine that Turkey is developing and acquiring INF missiles from its partners.

Erdogan has not done this yet.
And the United States will not deliver missiles until Erdogan is at the head of Turkey, precisely because he understands that the nuclear power plant will stop, gas, tourists, etc. will run out. And Erdogan doesn't need it.
Objectively, any relatively independent leader is useful to us.
And 100% oriented towards the States (like Poroshenko or the Poles) is harmful.

Turkey is the enemy. Primordial. Tinted. Inescapable.

Russia has neither permanent enemies nor permanent friends. There are constant interests.
How much harm did the Saudis do in the 90s?
And now we are cooperating for our benefit.
Your black-and-white world has nothing to do with real politics.

[iouris]

What district of Moscow did the Turks get access to?

[rotmistr60]

We got access to the entire Turkic world. This is an important example for the whole world.

I understood correctly about the "example for the whole world" - do you want to get an exit somewhere, start a victorious war? But it happens in life that the one who has received the "exit" then cannot find the entrance and remains on the "rainy street". This is me so by the way. There have been too many loud (noisy) admiration for oneself in the last days both from the Turks, so naturally also from Azerbaijanis

[cniza]

Quote: rotmistr60

I understood correctly about the "example for the whole world" - if you want to get an exit somewhere, start a victorious war?

And he speaks about it openly.

[APASUS]

The Turks have a too quick start. I think that even among the Muslim countries, the Turks will start grating, not everyone is happy with such a strengthening of Turkey.

[cniza]

Quote: APASUS

not everyone is happy about this strengthening of Turkey.

This is putting it mildly, some people tensed and very much ...

[Lord of the Sith]

And in fact, the Caspian hub started working in Russia))

[cniza]

Thus, the Turkish expert makes it clear that, in his opinion, "an important example for the whole world" is war ...

And there are many who want to fight?

[Pavel57]

Quote: Dym71

Much can be said, but in fact Aliyev is Azerbaijan, not Turkey.

And if Aliyev interferes with the Turks, what will happen to Aliyev

[ALEXEY TSENTILLO]

First of all, nothing is over yet, it all just started with the aggression of Turkey and its slave Azerbaijan.
Second: the "Turkic world" is a rotten idea, it does not exist, did not exist and is not needed by anyone ...
Third: the world saw the aggression of the murderers and the danger of the possessed Erdogan - the aggressor is tolerated as long as he harms Russia, but this is not long.
Central Asia hates greedy Turks and is now afraid.
And the main thing: the Turkish aggression clearly showed that the price of American promises is zero.
And one word of Russia is enough for the Turks to sit on their butts ...

[Livonetc]

If Azerbaijan was a slave to Turkey, Karabakh would be fully occupied.
Azerbaijan resorted to the support of Turkey to solve the most important problems for itself.
And stopped in time.
This is called skillfully maneuvering.
Azerbaijan offset.
But Armenia was just doing it and not maneuvering.
Armenia is not.

[Eugene-Eugene]

There was no need to occupy the entire Karabakh. The compromise solution just made it possible to get access to the Caspian through Zangezur

[Livonetc]

But why not.
Karabakh is Azerbaijan.
Azerbaijanis and Turks are "two countries in one people".
There was no longer any problem to occupy the entire Karabakh.
Unless, consider the entire operation as a pre-agreed action.
Ooovorennaya in one volume or another, at least with the Russian Federation, and possibly with the leadership of Armenia.
The Armenian leadership could not openly agree to the transfer of territories to Azerbaijan.
All of course from the field of assumptions.
However, Turkey, like the Russian Federation, is the strongest geopolitical player in this region, which must be reckoned with.

[hydro]

since you are a banquet, why are you leaving Zangezur, there is Syunik!

[hydro]

AND? only peaceful cargo, military cargo is unlikely to be allowed, and this is not a victory.

[migsu]

Russia received the most powerful superbase in Karabakh, which already controls the entire Middle East!

[U-58]

On the one hand, the headache from success.
But on the other ...
Everything is just like that.
The fraternal "Azibarzhan" © [MS Gorbachev] is no longer oriented towards Russia.
So the Turks really had a great chance to attract Kvzakhstan and launch their pens further to Asia.

[hydro]

what to attract? military cargo through Armenia?) Through Georgia or Iran?

[Senka naughty]

As long as they all fly on our aircrafts, I personally feel calm ..

[Scorpio05]

Quote: BDRM 667

«We got access to the entire Turkic world": Turkey assessed the results of the war in Karabakh

Actually, this is just a statement of the fact of neo-Ottoman, pan-Turkic sentiments in the society and politics of modern Turkey under the leadership of Erdogan.

And it is interesting that now, to such statements, numerous Azerbaijani commentators can say, who said that the presence of Turkey in the Karabakh war is only "brotherly step", and nothing more ?

Tell me to comment on some counter-cross observer from the left edition, which no one knows even in their own country? Can comment better than P. Tolstoy, deputy chairman of the State Duma and a member of the Supreme Council of United Russia, who said live that he is a supporter of the "return" of the Turkish city of Istanbul (formerly Constantinople)? Instead of commenting on the statements in some wall newspaper (and so there is a railway connection through stable Georgia and to whom did it surrender at all?) Maybe it is better to discuss the openly provocative statements of the actual state figure of the Russian Federation that call directly to war with Turkey? This is essentially annexationism and the presentation of territorial claims to the capital (!) Of a partner state, and nothing unreasonable at this level. There is not even a common border and no Russians have ever lived there (in sufficient number). Did the Armenians bite him?) How are you going to make your way, fat one?)) He probably won't, he thinks of himself as a commander) And this is not a village observer from an unknown publication. How about a beam in the eye?

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A small remark, I mean the railway communication of Turkey through Georgia with Central Asia (CA), which ... is not used by Turkey even in half of its possibilities due to the lack of freight turnover (apparently, and interest in goods from CA). The same about goods from Turkey, they are present in the Central Asian markets, but due to the fact that the whole range of Turkish goods coincides with what China supplies to the Central Asian countries, that is, but China wins the competition as always because of its price policy and low logistics costs. Urumqi alone, quite close to the Central Asian countries (especially to Kakhazstan), supplies all of Central Asia with everything it needs. In general, the railway to Turkey and further to Europe turned out to be most needed by China. Well, it's even better, a huge cargo turnover is provided, as well as the Iran-Azerbaijan-Russia railway.