A civil war erupts in Ethiopia, T-72 tanks bought in Ukraine are used

The theory continues to prove that something is wrong with the Nobel Peace Prize winners. After Gorbachev was awarded, a huge power disintegrated, numerous armed conflicts began in the post-Soviet space (in fact, they do not subside to this day), after Obama was awarded, the United States invaded Syria, took part in turning Libya into ruins, after awarding an international organization for weapons For the chemical disarmament of Syria, they began to groundlessly accuse Assad of using this very chemical weapon. Something similar with the Prime Minister of Ethiopia named Abiy Ahmed Ali.

He received the Nobel Peace Prize last year, and civil war broke out in Ethiopia in 2020.

We are talking about clashes in the Tigray region in the north of the country. The population of this region, which suddenly decided to fight for independence, is about 5 million people.

From Ethiopia, news comes of battles between government forces and the armed formations of the so-called Tigray Liberation Front. At the same time, the battles reached such intensity that armored vehicles were used. In particular, the rebel region uses against government forces Tanks, including T-72B1, previously purchased in Ukraine. It is known that at one time the T-72 contract for Ethiopia was estimated at $ 100 million.

Abandoned TPLF T-72 tank pic.twitter.com/ngXr0kWm2T

- Ethiopia Map (@MapEthiopia) November 24, 2020

Similar tanks purchased in Ukraine were also used by the government forces of Ethiopia. Also involved in the battles are T-55 and T-62 tanks, MLRS, barrel artillery.

Wrecked T-55 near Humera. Unknown who operated it. pic.twitter.com/rnORog2T7Z

- Ethiopia Map (@MapEthiopia) November 23, 2020

Against this background, international human rights organizations, including HRW, declare that the conflict is turning into an international one. The fact is that armed formations from Eritrea entered Tigray.

Comments

[Kot_Kuzya]

The Nobel Peace and Literature Prizes have long ago compromised themselves. Old man Nobel, probably, did not imagine how his prize would be perverted in favor of politicians.

[Lech from Android.]

Old man Nobel, probably, did not imagine how his prize would be perverted in favor of politicians.

This old man Nobel himself had a hand in the murder of millions of people and his prize is an attempt to atone for his sin before the Almighty.
I would never accept his award purely for moral reasons.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Lech from Android.

This old man Nobel himself had a hand in the murder of millions of people and his prize is an attempt to atone for his sin before the Almighty.

You might as well blame Paul Viel, the inventor of smokeless powder, for killing millions of people, or the Wright brothers who invented the airplane, or John Browning, or Mauser, or Kalashnikov.

Quote: Lech from Android.

I would never accept his award purely for moral reasons.

I would accept and give away to the animal shelter in my city.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

This old man Nobel himself had a hand in the murder of millions of people and his prize is an attempt to atone for his sin before the Almighty.

From the creator

Syria has become a columbarium for pro-Turkish militants where they train, gain combat experience

(comment to the article "We will not recruit soldiers, let the robots fight", dated 23.11.20/XNUMX/XNUMX)
What incredible progress in bullshit in just three days! Keep it up!

[voyaka uh]

Why on earth? He invented dynamite not for the military, but for mining,
mining, tunneling.
And the fact that the military liked dynamite is not Nobel's fault.
And the Peace Prize was invented after it. He established prizes only in physics, chemistry
and literature.

"I would never accept his award purely for moral reasons." ///
---
Probably offered several times?
Just like Perelman!

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: voyaka uh

Perelman

Perelman is a mathematician. Nobel laureates are not awarded to mathematicians. He refused other awards.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Lech from Android.

I would never accept his award purely for moral reasons.

You are a great person! Even Zhores Alferov accepted, but you don't want to. True, even in theory, no one will offer it to you, but a noble intention ..? Although there are greens in the bargain, what is lam compared to moral considerations?

[Alex777]

Old Nobel doesn't care, but Ethiopia is greatly weakened by internal turmoil in front of Egypt. The temptation to "fix" it with the dam is growing ...

[abrakadabre]

Ethiopia is greatly weakened by internal turmoil before Egypt. The temptation to "fix" it with the dam is growing ...

I would not be surprised if Egypt actively had a hand in this. Just because of the dam.

[ssergey1978]

Well, what a prize I got, you can go to war.

[Paul Siebert]

Ethiopia is often at war.
One of the poorest countries in Africa has repeatedly fought with its neighbors.
And with Sudan and Somalia ...
And the motherland of the Queen of Sheba acquired Eritrea and Tygra by military means.
We, the Russians, taught the Ethiopian army to fight.
It was not without embarrassment - Somalia, also following the path of socialism, was also armed and trained by our specialists.
But when the Somalis climbed to seize the territory of Ethiopia, the choice was made unambiguously by us.
Ethiopia remained in the sphere of our interests in Africa and since then has managed not only to defend its lands, but also to expand its borders - at the expense of the very Tigray and Eritrea, it has entered the ocean coast ...
And the Somalis fell at the feet of the United States and now it is the most unfortunate, gangster country in Africa, with an incessant civil war and a bunch of competing clans in destroyed Mogadishu.
And a crowd of mendicant pirates on the coast.
Tigray rebelled.
Poor Tygrai - he has no chance.
Most recently, the victorious Ethiopian army entered the capital of Somalia and did what the US Armed Forces themselves did not do - stopped the violence, destroyed the terrorist infrastructure of the militants, captured and destroyed several of their leaders.
From November 4, hostilities have been conducted in Tigray.
How long will the rebels have enough strength? No answer.
In the provinces, electricity, water supply, cellular communications, the Internet are turned off ...
They attack government troops, patrols, garrisons of small settlements.
They even capture tanks and armored vehicles from the soldiers of Addis Ababa.
But the ring of government troops is shrinking, and the separatists have less and less chances.
The sooner they agree, the better it will be for both parties - there will be less losses ...
Why even start this madness?
It seems to me that without the CIA it was not without ...

[Sergey Sfiedu]

It's just some kind of rare illiteracy in Ethiopia. Where did you read such nonsense?

[Paul Siebert]

I, min hertz, studied at a military school with cadets from Ethiopia.
So I gathered all the data on Ethiopia from them, from the Ethiopians.
Didn't read it anywhere ...
I even tried to learn their language.
It turned out to be a bit complicated - syllabic writing, more than a hundred letters.
And you, judging by the ambition, supplied information about Ethiopia himself to Mengistu Haile Miriam ...
Your deeds are wonderful, Lord ...

[Proton]

This award has long been highly politicized. This is one of the tools of information warfare.

[parusnik]

Another interethnic fire broke out ...

[Lech from Android.]

Another interethnic fire broke out ...

Who will extinguish it?
The UN is not even able to prevent such conflicts ... oh again, interesting times of wars, revolutions, pandemics are coming ... when will humanity overcome this curse?

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The UN is unable even to prevent such conflicts

How can the UN prevent conflicts? The UN does not have an army or police, or any force to force this or that country to peace.

[Lech from Android.]

How can the UN prevent conflicts? The UN has no army or police or any force

And what are the countries included in it doing?
Every country has an army, a police ... all that needs to be nipped in the bud ... but the strife and ambitions of some countries are higher than the interests of all mankind.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Lech from Android.

And what are the countries included in it doing?
Every country has an army, a police ... all that needs to be done is to nip the conflict in the bud

And who care about these blacks? Extra spending. Nobody cares.

[Lech from Android.]

And who care about these blacks? Extra spending. Nobody cares.

Well, what can be the matter of ordinary people to an organization in which no one cares. It's bad ... the degradation of the UN is complete.

[Suslin]

Do not confuse, ignoramus, the UN and the Nobel Prize!

[Lech from Android.]

Rude dear ... the rules of the site do not allow me to go over your personality.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Nobody gave a damn about the UN since 1999, when NATO, contrary to the UN resolution, began bombing Serbia.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lech from Android.

And what are the countries included in it doing?
Every country has an army, a police ...

Those. do you propose to introduce occupation troops if suddenly it seemed to someone that a conflict was brewing within a thread of the country?
Independent sovereign country.
And who should decide?
For example, would you like the American "peacekeepers" in Moscow in 1993?
A conflict was also brewing.
Or when our Grozny was pacified for several years, someone in Europe and America would have decided that there is a conflict in the country and it should be stopped by foreign troops?

[Lech from Android.]

Or when our Grozny was pacified for several years, someone in Europe and America would have decided that there is a conflict in the country and it should be stopped by foreign troops?

We managed it ourselves ... there was an attempt like this.
What will you do when the conflict inside the country starts to grow and spreads to other countries?
Or revolutionaries with the ideas of a world revolution will run to you from another country

[Antifreeze]

Quote: parusnik

Another interethnic bonfire flared up

Someone was right to say that the war in NK allowed many to hope for a solution to the problems by military means.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Descendants of the great Sumerians can make money on everything. This is their essence. This is their strength.

[Tritebemalo]

"Similar tanks purchased in Ukraine ..." - Ukrainian-made T-72?

[Herman 4223]

One thing is clear with this award, the enemy of the United States and its satellites will never receive it. On the contrary, he must be a subordinate subject of the Western world. Poor Africa is their share.

[rotmistr60]

with the Nobel Peace Prize recipients "something is wrong."

Moreover, for a long time and not only with the Peace Prize. The awarding of this prize has turned exclusively into a political action, and sometimes into servility, therefore, in advance, as in the case of Obama. An undisguised shame and taking the "aces" out of the sleeve. I don’t want to talk about the tanks purchased in Ukraine. In this country, even their own people make big claims to the armored vehicles manufactured there.

[faiver]

I don't really understand why mentioning that the tanks were bought in Ukraine? With the same success, tanks could be bought from anyone ...

[Thrifty]

Alfred Nobel curses those who denounced his name, naming the Nobel Peace Prize in honor of him, who in fact received this prize for the blood and death of innocent people. ..

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Thrifty

Alfred Nobel curses those who denounced his name, naming the Nobel Peace Prize in honor of him, who in fact received this prize for the blood and death of innocent people. ..

did not hear his "curses" ...

[7,62x54]

"Explosive Award" from the creator of dynamite

[silverwolf88]

This is not with the "not so laureates" ... these are problems with the Nobel Committee ... there are washers in science ... they recognize BUT later and without conclusions and cancellations / changes of statuses ... and so the meaning of the award is devalued .. ...

[Doccor18]

In the era of great conquests with Ethiopia, the colonialists did not go well. Now they decided to tear the country apart. First, the coast was torn off - Eritrea was created, now also Tigray ...
Divide and rule...

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Doccor18

First the coast was torn off - Eritrea was created,

History lesson. Ethiopia attached Italian Eritrea in 1947 ...
In April 1993 at referendum 99,83% of the population of Eritrea voted FOR INDEPENDENCE. Then the Ethiopian-Eritrean War of 1998-2000 - Ethiopia admitted defeat (maybe it was necessary to show firmness and push Eritrea?). My opinion about the "coast" - Ethiopia could "leave" access to the sea - leave behind Ethiopia south of eritrea where the population is least ... The rest of Eritrea with the majority dissenting population send free float.

[abrakadabre]

History lesson. Ethiopia annexed Italian Eritrea in 1947 ...

Italian? .. Eritrea? .. It sounds proudly. Almost like Calabria, Apulia or this ... Etruria. What have the Italians forgotten there? Did you go to soak your feet in the Red Sea? Or did the memory of the iron legions of Ancient Rome leap up in them? Because the Italians had the right to claim this very Eritrea in about the same way as the Jews to Palestine - about the same number of years have passed.
Why did the Italians not aim at the rest of the historical part: from Iraq to Britain? ..

In April 1993, in a referendum, 99,83% of the population of Eritrea voted FOR INDEPENDENCE.

By the way, how is it in Eritrea? After the separation did life become better? Why have they built factories, moved science, healthcare? Compared to the period near Addis Ababa. Fought for all good against all bad. As always.

[Dmitry Makarov]

The United States died, and the vassals suffered in all seriousness.

[Ros 56]

And how much will remain of the 5 million after the war? you can see someone's ears sticking out there, but I don't have information.

[Suslin]

Nobel conceived his prize as an award for excellence in the natural sciences, and his "followers" turned the Nobel Prize into a political PR by establishing the Prize for Peace and Achievement in Literature. Such are the times, such are the customs!

[Pandiurin]

Quote: faiver

I don't really understand why mentioning that the tanks were bought in Ukraine? With the same success, tanks could be bought from anyone ...

Just one more proof that Ukraine has reached the international level. Blacks in Africa kill each other, and Ukraine also has something to do with this.

[donavi49]

Now Sisi will choose the right moment and while everyone is busy with the citizen, he will remove the main threat to Egypt (the Renaissance Dam). Moreover, a couple of weeks ago they conducted exercises with Sudan on this topic.

[t-12]

Purely theoretically: how can you destroy a concrete dam 50 meters thick? Well, besides the atomic bomb?

[rotfuks]

Such armed conflicts rarely arise from scratch. There is usually a business case. Perhaps oil deposits or a diamond vein have been found in the Tigray region, and a transnational corporation intends to invest money in the region and start production. Military conflict is a way to get rid of the surplus of the local population and bring your pocket government to power. To you, as an example, events in one non-brotherly country. There were big plans for the production of shale oil and Biden's son was involved in the project. For the sake of this, another Maidan was muddied in the country, a clown was brought to power and a military conflict was ignited to cleanse the region from the local population. Fortunately, no shale oil deposits were found and the project was abandoned.

[gsev]

Quote: rotfuks

Fortunately, no shale oil deposits were found and the project was abandoned.

If you are talking about Ukraine, then the United States is successfully mining uranium ore in Yellow Waters (one of the last two undeveloped deposits of this ore in the world). Ukraine ranks first in the world in terms of oil shale reserves. If a technology for extracting oil and gas from Ukrainian shale is created, it is possible that more hydrocarbons will be produced there than in Russia, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela combined. The lack of information about the course of affairs may indicate a responsible attitude of the monopolist who seized the case, who protects his piece from competitors.

[rotfuks]

Extraction of oil and gas from shale is an energy-intensive project. First they need to be extracted and then oil and gas should be extracted from them. Extraction of gas or oil from fields is much cheaper. It is enough to drill a hole and pump the product for years.

[Constanty]

In particular, the rebel region is using tanks against government forces, including the T-72B1, previously acquired in Ukraine.

Tanks for Ethiopia in Ukraine were brought up to the T-27UA1 model with a 5TDFMA engine. By the way, quite an interesting upgrade. Especially for hot climates

[rotfuks]

As the Karabakh events showed, modernization does not give the desired effect. Tankers who grew up playing tanks throw tanks of any modernization and run to their mothers under their wing.

[Sergej1972]

The Ethiopian prime minister is fighting for the centralization of the country and against regional separatism. It is not clear that the second article has appeared, in which he is obsessed.