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"UAZ is far from economical": the Czech Republic calculated the benefit from the army's transition to Toyota Hilux

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"UAZ is far from economical": the Czech Republic calculated the benefit from the army's transition to Toyota Hilux

The Czech Army has recently selected the new Toyota Hilux 4x4s with a 2.4 hp 150D EURO 6 engine as the successor to the legacy UAZ and Land Rover Defenders. The supplier of the new cars will be the Polish company Glomex.


Let's take a look at the new technology in terms of fuel consumption
- writes the Czech edition CZDefence.

According to the Czech media, since its introduction on the market in 1968, the legendary pickup truck has left its mark everywhere. Toyota Hilux is "the pinnacle of development of this type of car", as evidenced by the strength of its body, combined with a striking design, high-quality interior and the ability to tow a trailer weighing up to 3,5 tons.

Don't be afraid to put it to the test on rough terrain or turn it on in stressful situations, this is the daily life of the Toyota Hilux, which is not intimidated by anything
- Toyota advertises its product.

CZDefence decided to look at the new fleet in terms of cost savings for its maintenance. The official calculations of the Czech army show that the annual mileage of one car will be 11 thousand km, of which 75% will be on the highway, 15% on dirt roads and the remaining 10% on movement in the field.

Hilux claims a combined fuel consumption of 7,2 liters per 100 kilometers. However, the publication believes that this figure is underestimated and, taking into account the movement on rough terrain, it will be equal to 11 liters of diesel fuel. With a declared mileage of 11 thousand km, the annual consumption will be about 33 kroons per car (000 kroons - 27 rubles - per liter of diesel fuel).



If we consider UAZ cars, then the real fuel consumption, taking into account off-road conditions, will average about 17 liters of gasoline per 100 km (at a price of 27 CZK per liter). Then the annual operation of one car will cost about 52 kroons per year, which makes this car far from economical.

When using the Land Rover Defender (the army has modifications LR 90, LR 110 and LR 130 Cayman), cars consume on average, taking into account the movement on different terrain, 13 liters of diesel fuel per 100 km. Therefore, operating one machine costs approximately 38 kroons annually.

If we average the cost of fuel consumed by UAZ and Land Rover Defender, then it will be more than 45 kroons with a mileage of 000 kilometers, compared to 11 kroons for Toyota Hilux. Considering that 33 thousand cars are being purchased, the total annual benefit will be over 000 million kroons. For comparison, one modern combat helmet for the army from Argun [a Czech company specializing in ammunition] costs about 1,2 kroons. Thanks to the fuel savings, more than 14 helmets can be purchased per year.

The above calculation does not include parts and repair costs. Land Rover Defender and UAZ vehicles are now expensive to maintain, and Toyota Hilux vehicles will be under warranty
- CZDefence sums up its calculations of the transition of the Czech army to a new vehicle fleet.

True, it has not been reported about how much Toyota will cost after the expiration of the warranty period and what kind of "warranty" cases are assumed by the manufacturer when delivering pickups to the Czech army.

Photos used:
The website of the Army of the Armed Forces of the Czech Republic
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  1. prior
    prior 25 November 2020 09: 50
    +12
    Buying Toyota Hilux SUVs for their own army, the Czechs thereby admitted that their Skoda crossovers suck.
    Well, we'll know.
    And without Polish Toyota helmets, they could buy even more for their Czech heads, although hahly pots cost even cheaper.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 25 November 2020 09: 53
      +5
      People urgently needed a thousand helmets. If this required the purchase of a thousand cars, why not?
      1. Temples
        Temples 25 November 2020 10: 24
        -2
        UAZ looks handsome.
        He would still have comfort inside the cabin and reliability under the hood and there would be a great car.
        1. ssergey1978
          ssergey1978 25 November 2020 10: 55
          +19
          You obviously did not exploit the UAZ. It rusts from the factory entrance. We bought a farmer with mushrooms. Delirious and gluttonous Mr.
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 25 November 2020 16: 41
          +3
          Quote: Temples
          He would still have comfort inside the cabin and reliability under the hood and there would be a great car.

          yes, yes, and it would be called "Land Rover Defender", yeah.
        3. New Year day
          New Year day 25 November 2020 17: 18
          +4
          Quote: Temples
          He would still have comfort inside the cabin and reliability under the hood and there would be a great car.

          Profitability! To drive it you need your own gas station, but if you have one then why UAZ?
          As for the quality, remember Putin's arrival at the UAZ, when the handle fell off when the door was opened?
      2. VORON538
        VORON538 25 November 2020 14: 26
        0
        The question is about the cost of purchasing a Hilux and the cost of an UAZ. I am sure that Toyota costs several times more, as well as spare parts for it. So with helmets they can fly wink
        1. Arkon
          Arkon 26 November 2020 11: 58
          +3
          Quote: VORON538
          The question is about the cost of purchasing Hilux and the cost of the UAZ.


          I will say more. The difference in the purchase price will not be offset by gasoline for the entire period of operation.
    2. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 25 November 2020 09: 59
      +16
      By the way, Skoda is a good car, they do not have frame jeeps in their lineup, and Haylax pickup, diesel, a dream, but a little expensive for me yet.
    3. Civil
      Civil 25 November 2020 10: 00
      0
      Eh, at one time it was necessary to install a diesel engine in large quantities, however, at one time the gasoline engine was in good order ... Italians put it, but that's not it
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 25 November 2020 20: 49
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        Eh, at one time it was necessary to install a diesel engine in large quantities, however, at one time the gasoline engine was in good order ... Italians put it, but that's not it

        Well, on the Patriots they also put their own diesel 51432 - but this did not give the car any advantages ...
    4. Airdefense
      Airdefense 25 November 2020 10: 16
      +6
      Why sucks, normal crossovers for the city.
      1. prior
        prior 25 November 2020 10: 25
        +1
        It was ironic. Well, I do not like UAZ, having a developed automotive industry, the Czechs make an army SUV. No, they buy a Polish Toyota and at the same time hay a Russian UAZ, from the time of the king of peas.
        And if you carry out comparative tests, it is not yet a fact that Toyota will win in them. Fuel consumption is not the most important argument for military equipment, just look at how much the Tu-160 consumes in one flight. And what, refuse ?!
        1. Airdefense
          Airdefense 25 November 2020 10: 35
          -1
          Czechs make an army SUV

          This is capitalism, it is not profitable for them, their urban crossovers are being bought by a hundred thousand in the world, and army SUVs will be bought at most a thousand for the whole Czech Republic.
        2. ssergey1978
          ssergey1978 25 November 2020 10: 56
          0
          Off-road uaz will merge Toyota
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 25 November 2020 15: 41
            -4
            Quote: ssergey1978
            Off-road uaz will merge Toyota

            It’s all in vnau Ukraine, everything is fine with us, don’t worry! tongue Did you get off the bike?
            1. ssergey1978
              ssergey1978 25 November 2020 17: 10
              +8
              What is normal with you? You drove off-road on a cruiser 78, pradike 120, safar? There is nothing sweeter than carrots, but how much pathos. And what has Ukraine to do with it? Have they offended you there?
              1. neri73-r
                neri73-r 25 November 2020 17: 18
                0
                I drove a lot! And on pradiks and on cruisers and on loaves and on 69 UAZs! Well, what can we compare the 69th with a pradik or a cruiser for off-road terrain? Weight is not going anywhere! Alas, for you.
                1. ssergey1978
                  ssergey1978 25 November 2020 17: 22
                  +1
                  Let's compare in the garage there is a refurbished 69, a cruiser 78, a prado 120 so as not to be a voice one is ready to provide tomorrow a photo with your nickname. It is difficult to argue with even a shishige prepared by a cruiser, as a rule, parity. At 78 we put laplander bridges and remove KZ and put gasoline at 5.7.
                  1. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 25 November 2020 17: 42
                    0
                    You forgot to put a rudder from the icebreaker to overcome the ford, as well as the main rotor from the Mi26 to jump over the mountains. laughing I personally went hunting at different times of the year, where there were also cruisers, prades, and, as a rule, 69th got up last. And, as you know, the drivers changed among themselves. hi
                    1. ssergey1978
                      ssergey1978 25 November 2020 17: 52
                      +2
                      If you saw the equipment of this technique and the funds spent, then they would not write nonsense. Once again there is gas 69, ideally, however, 78 works if you do not know this is a military land cruiser where there is not even a tachograph, not a gram of electronics, but there is a 4.2 liter naturally aspirated diesel engine, locks, winches where you are with your decree, do not tell
                      1. neri73-r
                        neri73-r 25 November 2020 17: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: ssergey1978
                        If you saw the equipment of this technique and the funds spent, then they would not write nonsense.

                        And I am not arguing about the cost of the alteration, it is very expensive, often exclusive.
                2. ssergey1978
                  ssergey1978 25 November 2020 17: 42
                  -2
                  What are you fence about? What matters is not weight, but specific pressure, rolling resistance, torque, gear ratio and wheel radius. Apart from blocks, rubber and geometric cross-country ability. Why do you make people laugh with your lack of competence. I suspect you only rode a bike
                  1. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 25 November 2020 17: 43
                    +1
                    Yes, and also tracks to reduce ground pressure! tongue
                  2. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 25 November 2020 17: 53
                    -1
                    Dear, what are you rubbing me about, this is not a helix or an UAZ, but a "homemade product" prepared for off-road driving! If you take the regular Helix and UAZ 469th or 69th (as you wrote about), then there is nothing to compare in cross-country ability.
                    1. ssergey1978
                      ssergey1978 25 November 2020 18: 00
                      -2
                      I know who you are and in what place wipes you once again demonstrate your stupidity. The standard wheels 78 are 7.50r16 these are wheels from a Hyundai 2.5 ton truck. Blocks in stock. Once again, the quality moves in Toyota are initially very high to which the UAZ is infinitely far away.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 25 November 2020 12: 04
          0
          Quote: prior
          No, they buy a Polish Toyota and at the same time hay a Russian UAZ, from the time of the king of peas.

          Well, we decided to replace the jeeps in the army, we thought ours were cheaper, but they won’t come to our pocket, we found the supplier who would put welds in the pocket. Well, the UAZ can be haunted, it won't be new anyway. And "Tayota" is good, you can go on a picnic or fishing, and you are not ashamed to appear in front of your neighbors.
        4. Zefr
          Zefr 25 November 2020 13: 06
          -1
          Inconvenient for the generals in the UAZ. Immediately evident - soldier phones.
          Whether it's Toyota! You can drive to the city on this, buy Czech beer
          And then, after three years, those written off from the service, you can attach to whoever needs it at the price of scrap metal
          And the UAZ will pull the strap
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 25 November 2020 17: 20
            +2
            Quote: Zefr
            And the UAZ will pull the strap

            Because they don't even need to be written off ahead of schedule
        5. private person
          private person 25 November 2020 16: 18
          -2
          Fuel consumption is not the main argument for military equipment

          I agree with you, though the UAZ is old and gluttonous and breaks down, BUT it can be repaired in the field. Toyota Hilux is a great car and if it has one reliable owner and in the army who served he knows who has to travel.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 25 November 2020 16: 58
            -2
            Quote: private person
            Fuel consumption is not the main argument for military equipment

            In general, the military rarely bothers with such problems as economy. That the Czechs do not think from there and have taken the wrong end. With this approach, you can perfectly save on cartridges, shells, and rations (high-calorie laughing ), and on combat missions, and other things. How much will you gain then. It just seems to me that the Czechs are not actually going to fight at all, but keep the army, so to speak, for formality. Hence similar statements. That they are uncomfortable, then "eats a lot", then something else. This situation was very reminiscent of the latest twist of the Russian Ministry of Finance, with its proposal to cut funding for the army. Let them cut themselves off. However, as long as this concerns the army of the Czech Republic and other Europeans, let them save on health, I do not mind.
        6. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 25 November 2020 20: 51
          +1
          Quote: prior

          And if you carry out comparative tests, it is not yet a fact that Toyota will win in them.

          Will win.
          As the manager of a fleet of 200 off-road vehicles working 24/7, I will say that Toyota will win.
    5. smart ass
      smart ass 25 November 2020 10: 25
      0
      There was a case in a Chinese car dealership. I heard a consultant treat one of my grandfathers. Gasoline consumption per liter is less than that of a vase))) I listened to this action then I tell my grandfather, you save a liter of gasoline, and after 5 years you will sell it for free)))
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 November 2020 12: 05
        +2
        Quote: Clever man
        you save a liter of gasoline, and after 5 years you will sell it for free

        If someone else takes it for free.
    6. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 25 November 2020 10: 27
      +7
      A crossover is not an SUV, it is the same city car as a station wagon, except that the ground clearance is higher so that you can not hit the bumper on the curbs and overcome small puddles and dirt roads when driving to the country. Among the complete sets of crossovers there are even configurations without all-wheel drive and on variators. This is generally beyond reason.
    7. halpat
      halpat 25 November 2020 10: 41
      0
      The official calculations of the Czech army show that the annual mileage of one car will be 11 thousand km, of which 75% will be on the highway, 15% on dirt roads and the remaining 10% on movement in the field.

      They think so for centuries: 75% / 15% / 10%. And it probably cannot be said that this is a wrong calculation for the Czechs, French, and Germans. Even periodically they win each other.
      And then they attack Russia and suddenly it turns out that 10/15/75, but they didn't have winter clothes ... And in general, when a stronger enemy attacks you, then in civilized countries it is customary to surrender and join the winner, giving him the trigger / milk / eggs and so on.
      Strategists / economists smile
    8. GRIGORIY76
      GRIGORIY76 25 November 2020 10: 43
      +5
      Don't confuse crossovers and SUVs on the frame.
    9. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 25 November 2020 11: 10
      +7
      The Czechs have no analogue of Hilux ....... in the VW concern only Amarok
      1. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 25 November 2020 15: 15
        0
        At a friend of the Amarok. he calls him Fainting
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 25 November 2020 16: 47
          0
          They showed a military version of Amarok. He is there.
    10. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 25 November 2020 16: 44
      +1
      Quote: prior
      that their Skoda crossovers suck.

      no need to compare a member with a gooseneck - where is the frame pickup, and where is the SUV.
      Quote: prior
      really hahly pots cost

      the comment is added because of this witty remark, so I understand?
    11. New Year day
      New Year day 25 November 2020 17: 15
      +1
      Quote: prior
      that their Skoda crossovers suck.

      So they are only for parquet!
    12. Free wind
      Free wind 26 November 2020 13: 25
      -1
      Crossovers and SUVs are cars of completely different classes.
  2. Alexander X
    Alexander X 25 November 2020 09: 51
    +15
    They forgot to calculate that the price of a Toyota is approximately equal to the cost of 10 UAZs. The price of MOT also means higher for Toyota. So their notorious economy is so notorious ... Toyota's reliability, yes, higher. Without any doubt...
    Such savings are like saving the owners of expensive Gelendvagens, who install gas-cylinder equipment in order to save on gasoline ... BUT the cost of the equipment itself is not considered and the loss of meaning from a powerful car ... IMHO ...
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 25 November 2020 09: 54
      +8
      You have totalitarian mathematics. Democratic countries think differently.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 25 November 2020 11: 11
        +1
        By your standards, the Tigers are not needed either .... give the UAZ469
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 25 November 2020 11: 13
          0
          Have the Czechs considered buying Tigers?
    2. DAQ
      DAQ 25 November 2020 09: 54
      +4
      Rather, the price is 3 to 1.
    3. Pivot
      Pivot 25 November 2020 09: 56
      +4
      In the European Union, the cost of a UAZ is significantly higher than in Russia.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 25 November 2020 10: 21
        -2
        So Toyota from POLES !!! And repairs accordingly from them. Did they start collecting them there? Or is it such a funny cut?
        Oh Czechs, will stay in shorts and helmets good
      2. pmkemcity
        pmkemcity 25 November 2020 10: 47
        +1
        Quote: Pivot
        In the European Union, the cost of a UAZ is significantly higher than in Russia.

        Rather, the price of Toyota in Russia is much higher than in the European Union.
        1. Pivot
          Pivot 25 November 2020 10: 57
          +1
          In Russia, the price for a Hilux in a similar configuration is even lower than in the European Union.
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 25 November 2020 12: 38
            -2
            36240 CAA Chubu TOYOTA HILUX PICK UP Z 4WD
            Caa chubu
            36240
            2020-11-11
            Year2020 BodyGUN125 Mileage0 Volume 2400 Color BLACK Gearbox FAT Options AAC Grade S
            price in Japan
            3450JPY

            Sale of Toyota Hilux Pick Up, 2020 in Krasnoyarsk
            Advert 40456098 from 24.11.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX
            3 q

            It turns out. that one yen in purchasing power is equal to one ruble.
            1. Pivot
              Pivot 25 November 2020 14: 27
              -3
              One yen costs 73 kopecks. In the European Union, hilux is more expensive than ours
              1. pmkemcity
                pmkemcity 25 November 2020 16: 32
                0
                Quote: Pivot
                One yen costs 73 kopecks.

                In your opinion, it turns out that Hilux costs 2, and it costs 600? This is Eastonia, a powerful "member" of the European Union. 000X3 = 600. It turns out that 000 euro is worth 24650 kopecks?

                TOYOTA HILUX DOUBLE CAB DLX + 2.4 D-4D 110KW
                Body type pickup (doors: 4)
                Four-wheel drive axle
                Average fuel consumption 9,3 l / 100 km
                Manual transmission
                Base Price
                24 650 EU
        2. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 25 November 2020 11: 15
          0
          It depends on how to buy and at what taxes. Was for work in the UAE ... the newspaper advertisement was Toyota Corolla 1.8 to 620 tons. Rubles for our money .... then here in the Russian Federation I bought the basic Logan first for 430 tr. from 1.6, and the maximum prior to 485 cost .... and the same Corolla we have 800 tr.
          1. AML
            AML 25 November 2020 11: 39
            +2
            Uh-huh, and then in winter the epiphany will come that Arab cars do not have a stove and all sorts of buns such as heating windows, seats, mirrors, etc.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 25 November 2020 14: 56
              0
              This I tell you about pricing ..... The Arabs have a reinforced Conder, 1,8 engine. The price, as a rule, is slightly more expensive. They have no VAT in the country.
    4. Airdefense
      Airdefense 25 November 2020 10: 21
      +5
      In the best case 3, the Oise Hunter costs 842 thousand rubles on the manufacturer's website. This is despite the fact that after 5 years of operation, the UAZ will be rubbish that can be sold at the price of metal in Europe, and from the Hilux to help out up to half the initial price. As a result, the savings are quite real.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 25 November 2020 11: 16
        +1
        Toyota has not had a front axle for a long time, repairs in the field are not provided for, rough terrain is not hers, from the word at all. We would have stayed with defenders, the same UAZ only on diesel and repaired on the knee, a minimum of electronics.
        1. AML
          AML 25 November 2020 11: 40
          0
          Defenders are out of production. How many spare parts are left in warehouses is a big question.
          1. kulinar
            kulinar 25 November 2020 14: 01
            +1
            Quote: AML
            Defenders are out of production. How many spare parts are left in warehouses is a big question.

            Who told you such nonsense?
            Defenders are being produced. Only for civilians already updated version.
            1. AML
              AML 25 November 2020 14: 34
              +2
              Land Rover Defender is an off-road vehicle manufactured by the British company Land Rover from April 30, 1948 to January 29, 2016.

              And it’s a miracle that the handicraft is now being produced by Jaguar Land Rover Limited, a subsidiary of Tata Motors Limited (India).
              1. saygon66
                saygon66 25 November 2020 19: 56
                0
                - Maybe we are talking about 110 "Transfer" 6X6 or 130 "Cayman"?
                1. AML
                  AML 26 November 2020 00: 28
                  0
                  No no. Both caiman and perenti are a bit re-arranged, but classic defender. The new defender is no longer a frame and has nothing to do with the old one.
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 25 November 2020 21: 09
          +2
          Quote: K-612-O
          Toyota has not had a front axle for a long time, repairs in the field are not provided for, rough terrain is not hers, from the word at all. We would have stayed with defenders, the same UAZ only on diesel and repaired on the knee, a minimum of electronics.


          What are you carrying?
          When have you been to the oil fields?
          My machines work "along the pipe" - there are such conditions that the articulated goose can stand "on the wing" ...
          Really terribly rugged terrain, clay 2 meters soggy, which was grinded by geese and the Urals with Hurricanes in addition ...

          And we really work there.

          Everything is repaired in the field - and there is a front axle.

          And off-road, Haylax is head and shoulders above the Patriot or Hunter ...
    5. WIKI
      WIKI 25 November 2020 10: 21
      0
      Quote: Alexander X
      They forgot to calculate that the price of a Toyota is approximately equal to the cost of 10 UAZs

      Reliability in a combat situation is sometimes equivalent to the price of life. "You checkers, or go?"
    6. smart ass
      smart ass 25 November 2020 10: 27
      +6
      Why are you so soon bearded kids are driving around Syria in Toyotas with dshk they like!
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 25 November 2020 13: 02
        -1
        - There are other Toyota ... Old models, mostly ... And the current Hilux is a Chinese mobile phone ... laughing
        - I saw myself how such a machine could not move through the ice ... The "intelligent" four-wheel drive spun in all directions - only on the spot it crawled ... And the fact that the Japanese themselves do not use this car in the army, as far as I know, about says something ...
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 25 November 2020 21: 16
          +1
          Quote: saygon66
          - There are other Toyota ... Old models, mostly ... And the current Hilux is a Chinese mobile phone ... laughing
          - I saw myself how such a machine could not move through the ice ... The "intelligent" four-wheel drive spun in all directions - only on the spot it crawled ... And the fact that the Japanese themselves do not use this car in the army, as far as I know, about says something ...




          This is the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 Series Restayling - it is still being produced. started production again in 2015.
          This device is the most appreciated in the whole world.
          For its incredible reliability.
          Very expensive.
    7. antivirus
      antivirus 25 November 2020 10: 28
      0
      on UAZ - do not stick a machine gun - there is no big body.
      after the guarantee, sell to barmaley and buy new ones again
    8. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 25 November 2020 10: 58
      +2
      Where is the 10 price of the UAZ from 900000 to 1300000 rubles, depending on the model. Toyota is not more than 2-3 times more expensive. However, the content of the UAZ will quickly eat up these savings.
    9. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 25 November 2020 21: 04
      +2
      Quote: Alexander X
      They forgot to calculate that the price of a Toyota is approximately equal to the cost of 10 UAZs. The price of MOT also means higher for Toyota. So their notorious economy is so notorious ... Toyota's reliability, yes, higher. Without any doubt...
      Such savings are like saving the owners of expensive Gelendvagens, who install gas-cylinder equipment in order to save on gasoline ... BUT the cost of the equipment itself is not considered and the loss of meaning from a powerful car ... IMHO ...


      That's why so much lies then?

      I operate a fleet of 200 off-road vehicles. UAZ Patriot, Chevrolet Niva. Toyota Hilax, Mitsubishi L200, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport3.
      All cars are mechanics.
      All machines work "along the pipe" in very difficult conditions 24/7 - around the clock.

      Toyota costs like 3 UAZ.

      The price of TO is exactly the same as that of the UAZ.
      She also needs 8 liters of engine oil (of exactly the same quality), as does the UAZ Patriot.
      She also needs 8 liters of transmission oil (of exactly the same quality), as does the UAZ Patriot.
      She also needs an air, oil, cabin filter - which cost the same 250-300-400 rubles, if you look at normal and high-quality manufacturers.
      For 200 thousand average mileage in one year (yes, exactly for one year) - the savings only on the difference in fuel with real off-road consumption for Toyota of 11 liters of diesel fuel and 18 liters of gasoline for a patriot from a patriot is 510 thousand rubles.

      Only here is my Toyota's first breakdown, the steering rod worth 10 thousand rubles was at 160 thousand kilometers.
      And UAZ Patriot - bridges do not hold water - any ford - cranks, Radiators flow, valve guides - sag, cylinder head replacement under warranty on every 10 cars. And sometimes the warranty period is such that it is cheaper for me to buy a new one for cash, because the UAZ warranty is 2-3 months.
      Cardans, crosspieces are consumables.
      And many, many others.
      Clutch - no more than 100 thousand rubles.
      The cost of owning a UAZ is, in my conditions, about 18 rubles per kilometer ...
      Apart from fuel.
      And for Toyota the first year - no more than 3 rubles, the second year 4.80 rubles.

      That's the whole difference ...
      1. Arkon
        Arkon 26 November 2020 12: 25
        +2
        Quote: SovAr238A
        The cost of owning a UAZ is, in my conditions, about 18 rubles per kilometer ...


        I understand correctly that this is the first year, with 200 thousand mileage, UAZ eats up spare parts for 3 million 600 thousand?
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 30 November 2020 12: 50
          -1
          Quote: Arkon
          Quote: SovAr238A
          The cost of owning a UAZ is, in my conditions, about 18 rubles per kilometer ...


          I understand correctly that this is the first year, with 200 thousand mileage, UAZ eats up spare parts for 3 million 600 thousand?

          In my conditions, quite.
          1. Arkon
            Arkon 30 November 2020 15: 06
            0
            This is the price of four UAZs. Take four at once and do not worry then. In general, 200 thousand for a UAZ is not a mileage. For the amount of 3.5 million you can buy 35 new engines and change them every 6 thousand km. What are you talking about?
            If I have a mileage of 20 thousand per year, I'm that 360 thousand rubles. will I spend on service then? I don’t spend tens. And this is only fifty kopecks per kilometer.

            What are you writing about in general?
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 30 November 2020 17: 06
              0
              Quote: Arkon
              This is the price of four UAZs. Take four at once and do not worry then. In general, 200 thousand for a UAZ is not a mileage. For the amount of 3.5 million you can buy 35 new engines and change them every 6 thousand km. What are you talking about?
              If I have a mileage of 20 thousand per year, I'm that 360 thousand rubles. will I spend on service then? I don’t spend tens. And this is only fifty kopecks per kilometer.

              What are you writing about in general?


              I understand that the cost of the work itself is not taken into account by you?
              I understand that you do not know how often the rollers are wedged on a modern UAZ, how hubs, axle shafts, CV joints die, how shanks die, how universal joints and crosspieces die.
              Water ingress into the bridge - immediately replacing 5 parts with a total cost of up to 80 thousand rubles, excluding work.
              Now do it all in the Pripolyarny settlement or the Hulimsunt settlement ...
              1. Arkon
                Arkon 30 November 2020 18: 52
                0
                Quote: SovAr238A
                Water ingress into the bridge - immediately replacing 5 parts with a total cost of up to 80 thousand rubles, excluding work.


                Dap ?! If you change the oil in the front axle daily, it will cost you 100 thousand rubles per year. Oil change - 10 minutes of work. What are 80 thousand?
    10. Free wind
      Free wind 26 November 2020 13: 27
      0
      UAZ lam two hundred. Hilux 2 lema.
  3. Aysel
    Aysel 25 November 2020 09: 56
    +2
    Is it cheaper to sell after the warranty or more expensive to repair?
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      25 November 2020 10: 08
      0
      With guarantees, too, everything is not so simple. This happens quite often in all armies.
  4. TAMBU
    TAMBU 25 November 2020 09: 57
    +3
    A good choice...
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 25 November 2020 10: 02
    +16
    More than 20 years ago, we presented our company with 2 Volkswagen minibuses. And the rest of the Gazelles were. The bosses are in a panic, they even wanted to refuse such a gift, motivating the lack of funds for service. As a result, both old Folts are still on the move. They rarely break. And Gazelles have changed for 3 generations. So, not everything is as simple as it seems at first glance.
    1. Elturisto
      Elturisto 25 November 2020 10: 08
      -12%
      Well done, go get yourself a cookie from the shelf ...
    2. kin
      kin 25 November 2020 10: 19
      +5
      Not any UAZ. At work from 469 to Patriots I saw. Reliability 0. Permeability is so-so. The only pluses are the price and maintainability.
      1. faiver
        faiver 25 November 2020 10: 50
        +1
        The permeability is so-so
        - everything is good with the cross-country ability of the 469s, but otherwise not very ...
        1. Airdefense
          Airdefense 25 November 2020 14: 47
          +1
          I exploited both 469 and the tablet, especially for hunting / fishing were, all the permeability of the Oise is that it is not a pity for him and you can fly at speed through the mud and even drown in extreme cases, it is rather "psychological" passability.
          Because I saw rich majors on Geliki, where they did not spare them, the cross-country ability was absolutely no worse.
          1. faiver
            faiver 25 November 2020 15: 18
            0
            And who says that the Heliks have bad cross-country ability? bully
            And what do you mean do not mind? For most UAZ drivers in the country, his UAZ is the only car in the family and he will feel sorry for her as much as a more wealthy motorist, such as a Kruzak or a patrol ...
            1. Airdefense
              Airdefense 25 November 2020 15: 53
              0
              For most UAZ producers in the country, his UAZ is the only car

              Then they will sit down as well as expensive foreign cars, and so the more or less lively Tablet started from 70-100 thousand when I was still living in Russia.
              1. faiver
                faiver 25 November 2020 15: 54
                0
                Then they will sit down as well as expensive foreign cars.
                - a very controversial question ...
                1. Airdefense
                  Airdefense 25 November 2020 15: 59
                  0
                  And where will he go, either you need to fly quickly knocking down and ripping off everything with a machine, or sit in a quagmire and use a winch, chocks, rack jack.
          2. kin
            kin 25 November 2020 20: 04
            +1
            Gelendvagen has differential locks, that's a big deal. UAZ cannot boast of this. Therefore, the permeability is so-so. And the metal of the body from the factory rusts. At 31519, the gaps in the joints were covered with Velcro and painted over.
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 26 November 2020 13: 52
        0
        Have you tried to repair it yourself? Repair of a UAZ is not a bit easier than foreign-made engines. Once on the UAZ, the head was removed for a week, the antifreeze went under the hairpin and stuck tightly. I can't say about the new high-luxes, but the old ones are quite being repaired. True, the front propeller shaft is a little with a surcharge ..
    3. smart ass
      smart ass 25 November 2020 10: 29
      +5
      Folts buses are very reliable, especially diesel ones, at work the caravel carries us a flight of norms.
    4. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 25 November 2020 10: 29
      +5
      Good time, Alexander. At the expense of Gazelles and Folts (most likely Transporters), the question is controversial. On the transporters, most likely they put normal drivers (who monitor the equipment and do not tear it, who are not too lazy to wash and wipe with a cloth) and not young riders. Transporters are not sent in the center of the world with a full cabin of "any manure", it's expensive, but don't care for a gazelle. We also have a ten-year-old gazelle under our supervision (last year, for the first time, almost 800 thousand climbed into the internal combustion engine). "for three years young talents have been shattered.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 25 November 2020 10: 31
        +4
        Good afternoon. You are right with the drivers - all are experienced guys with great experience. But everyone's job is the same - to carry people.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 25 November 2020 10: 47
          0
          You can carry people Sasha in different ways))))) You can simultaneously shove in two hundred oil and a spare tire from a dump truck. We had one figure at one time (the head of the section) who would put a concrete pump with stepladders on the duty bus (Ford, by the way), his hard workers in a dirty robe poured into the luxury salon .. Twice right at the planning meeting they reached the fists. The most beloved shift worker was given under him, if the head of the pig-workers is not better.
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 26 November 2020 18: 38
            -1
            Where should the workers change their clothes? In the cold, under 40, as it is not at all high. Do you agree? Therefore, let the driver ask for capes for the seats, or buy it himself, or keep silent in a rag. An acquaintance of mine bought a KIA SPORTAGE, in a leather interior, and bought rag seat covers, that's how it is. and what is not from burlap? Or I would simply cover the seats with straw.
      2. saygon66
        saygon66 25 November 2020 20: 27
        +1
        - VW Transporter - dual use technique. Used by the Bundeswehr, including the 5th series.
        - At work we drove on T4, diesel 1.9, aspirated - an excellent car ...
      3. Free wind
        Free wind 26 November 2020 13: 59
        0
        Gazelle 10 years old, treated with anticorrosive more than once, through holes in the cabin, remove the trim in the cabin so the dog will crawl through, small.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 26 November 2020 18: 04
          0
          Good time, Aleksandr. We have Perm Territory and Udmurtia. Salt (I would say SALT). The boxes are warm, I came, wash ???. They brought new ones, immediately treated with mastic, they smear pipes with this muck. It smells for several days, but eats up to ten (there is an opportunity to check))). The only insult is that the plant does not do it. And on the internal combustion engine, good oil.
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 26 November 2020 18: 21
            -1
            The engine is not bad, it was tested when the cylinders were increased to 100 mm, it became very high-torque, but the pancake of gasoline eats too much. I fit into about 14-15 liters, but this is at a speed of 80-90 km per hour, but on a loaf. By the way, when parked on concrete floors, cars rust 3 times faster. Concrete pulls and evaporates water like a pump.
            1. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 26 November 2020 21: 09
              0
              There are 405DV, there are 406 and 409, and also Shtaer and Chinese Kamens. For me, Shtaer, he is no longer there (you can find it with your hands). The Chinese man is like in a casino, instead of inserts, the tape is not repaired, they are not written, they immediately say- repair is expensive and we will not give a guarantee. 16 valve dampers are painful, but they walk with hands. But 14-15-lies (in fact in the city 11-12) the standard is 13-14. With a samovar there is a gold master in Perm, in the top ten in the city It all depends on the padding. And at the expense of the floor, you will treat it well, you will wash, even the GAZ painting will be centuries old. Ulyanovski rukozhopov should not be cited as an example - I have only one warning removed - one mat - and they will be banned.



    5. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 11: 02
      -5
      , both old Folts are still on the move ........ they can be seen on the rugs in the garage ... no need to hang noodles on people's ears ..... there are conditions for the assessment ... gazelles are hard workers in the private sector they pull loads four times higher than the declared carrying capacity, for example, often in a body of 3-4 tons and in a two-axle trailer of three tons ... and eeee, a gazelle is puffing but rushing ... I personally earned money on delivery to a Ford transit long wheelbase ... compared to the cost of maintenance, the gazelle spits a hundredfold, and transits and folk, ... I can provide prices
  6. Comrade I
    Comrade I 25 November 2020 10: 07
    0
    The replacement itself is admittedly needed. But why the Toyota Hilux? (No, not that I think it's a bad car, I don't really know much about cars).
    1. mister-red
      mister-red 25 November 2020 10: 14
      +3


      The replacement itself is admittedly needed. But why the Toyota Hilux?
      Actually, the question is correct. The Czechs have an alliance between Skoda and VAG, it is not clear why not Amarok. Nothing worse. Personally, I like it better.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 25 November 2020 10: 33
      +7
      ISIS fought on them in the deserts for 5 years. Best recommendation.
      No roads, no maintenance laughing
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 25 November 2020 11: 01
        +3

        voyaka uh (Alexey)
        Today, 10: 33
        NEW

        +1
        ISIS fought on them in the deserts for 5 years. Best recommendation.
        No roads, no maintenance laughing
        But also compare our UAZ a little from the wrong weight)) category. Of course, he is in a losing position against T. Hilux. It's like a Zaporozhets to compare with Zhiguli. request
      2. BAI
        BAI 25 November 2020 11: 01
        +8
        ISIS fought in a Land Cruiser 70 pickup truck. 70 - really, no roads, no service. Made especially for the desert. All UN missions use it. But the hilux is also good.
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 25 November 2020 14: 02
          +1
          - In the UN mission in Central Asia, the staff rode on the 60s Patrols ... Spies from the Peace Corps drove the Toyota ... smile
      3. K-612-O
        K-612-O 25 November 2020 11: 21
        -3
        Only the desert is not forests and swamps, with mountain passes. Defender is still more convenient there and there is a front axle.
      4. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 25 November 2020 21: 19
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        ISIS fought on them in the deserts for 5 years. Best recommendation.
        No roads, no maintenance laughing


        And before ISIS there were all sorts of African tribal wars, Angolan and others - and all were on Toyota.
    3. aszzz888
      aszzz888 25 November 2020 10: 57
      0
      Comrade I
      Today, 10: 07
      NEW
      0
      The replacement itself is admittedly needed. But why the Toyota Hilux? (No, not that I think it's a bad car, I don't really know much about cars).
      If you didn’t drive T.Hailux, it’s hard to imagine, but the car is really good - that is, that is.
  7. Runoway
    Runoway 25 November 2020 10: 12
    +8
    At one time (2012), a colleague was going to buy a patriot 860tr, I discouraged him from taking the L200, in the database only 740tr, diesel 11l / 100km, TO 15tkm
    I was told that "a foreign car is expensive" and "there is not enough room in it for night fishing to sleep"
    Eventually
    -he left the salon before the first traffic light (diesel fuel was poured instead of gasoline)
    -first MOT after 2000 km cost 8tr
    -what did not break, to the extent that the welding of door hinges falls off (and this is during the warranty period)
    -He himself calls it a self-unrolling machine
    -to work began to ride a minibus, maybe the patriot eats bloodthirsty
    By the way, the L200 literally immediately jumped at a price of up to a million, people ate it, a friend's father still does not know any problems with this in the village
    1. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 25 November 2020 11: 22
      -6
      I saw an accident at the Shipunovo crossroads (Altai Territory). L200 collided with VAZ2109. VAZ's wing is dented, and the L200 is twisted into a knot.
      1. AML
        AML 26 November 2020 00: 36
        0
        If the L200 is twisted into a knot, then most likely the driver survived, but the driver of the vase is not a fact. This bullshit is called programmable deformation, when all the energy goes into the crumpling of the body, and not into the driver's chest.
        1. _Sergei_
          _Sergei_ 26 November 2020 05: 27
          0
          At the L200, both died. He apparently walked at a very high speed and tumbled about 50 meters. The salon, the front part, was crumpled. And the nine stood. It just turned around. The blow was from the right. The driver is alive
    2. Horon
      Horon 25 November 2020 11: 46
      -1
      Judging by the characteristics, it is better for such a "driver" to walk on foot, even if he uses diesel instead of gasoline. belay
      1. Runoway
        Runoway 25 November 2020 13: 56
        -1
        Was filled in the cabin, the person just left
        1. Horon
          Horon 25 November 2020 14: 51
          -1
          Claims to the salon must be presented and the equipment damaged through their fault must be restored at their expense. The main thing is to prove that the refueling was made by them. It is not at all clear how it started at all, it should not have started at all on diesel fuel. If diesel fuel is filled with gasoline, then before it stalls, it had to smoke and work intermittently. 2 thousand run-in, it is for all our old cars, but the fact that even his doors fell off, it’s to the driver, where he drove, how and what he drove to ruin the car. If you give him a Toyota, he will ditch it in a year, if he does not treat the car more carefully. I met people who have been driving UAZs for more than a dozen years and nothing, they repair themselves and nothing falls off. They ride the mountain passes all year round. But I will not even argue about gluttony UAZs.
  8. Reviews
    Reviews 25 November 2020 10: 17
    +1
    Do they really still operate UAZ vehicles?
  9. Yves762
    Yves762 25 November 2020 10: 19
    +1
    repeat
    To endure all the hardships and deprivations of military service ...
    still better in Toyota than in "Goat", IMHO. soldier
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 10: 45
      -1
      after all, it's better in Toyota than in "Goat", ...... and this is what the pocket is, .... the question is about the topic so on trifles .... how much does it cost to replace ball on tayota and goat, or Bobby ??? well tell me
      1. faiver
        faiver 25 November 2020 10: 59
        +5
        And when did an independent suspension and, accordingly, ball suspension appear on Bobik?
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 11: 08
          -1
          And when an independent suspension appeared on Bobiks and, accordingly, ball ones? ..... I just joke with an ignorant interlocutor Iv762 .... hinting that he is a rider and not a driver, that is, troubleshooting a car in a car is reduced only to knock on the wheel wipe the glass with your foot ... and yes, even hang some kind of trinket on the windshield ... naturally on trestles and bobby pins that are practically indestructible
  10. Constanty
    Constanty 25 November 2020 10: 27
    +5
    "UAZ is far from economical"


    It is difficult to disagree with this. I had a UAZ and I practically never went below 16 liters per 100 km. In addition, driving on forest roads was, let's call it, an extreme sport - it swayed terribly, and sometimes dangerous. However, it was very easy to repair. I have fond memories of him.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 11: 52
      -2
      I had a UAZ and I practically did not go below 16 liters ..... a question for filling. ... and how did I calculate the petrol consumption while riding on Bobik, I am interested in the fuel consumption in the altitude difference mode (mountain mode), highway mode (stable traffic), city mode (acceleration-braking), and most importantly off-road mode ... . come on indicators
      1. Constanty
        Constanty 25 November 2020 12: 19
        0
        I used mine mostly or almost exclusively for driving in the woods where I worked. I counted the fuel consumption by the odometer and how much I poured at the gas station :-)
        Unfortunately, I didn't go in the mountains or mostly on the road.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 13: 08
          0
          I counted the fuel consumption by the odometer .... there is no odometer even on my 2121 94th year. where is he from on Bobik ...... all the more so he counts the averaged parameters because petrol in the tank "walks ... I measured the petrol consumption in the Niva filling the tank on the cap. resetting the running speedometer. after driving any distance in different modes, you fill the same way on the hat and the result is up to a gram .... Bobik consumes fuel that is not much superior to the Niva, and mine will remind you of 1994, ..yk, here's to the box upgrade (on a native four-step on a native "voyka") on the highway 8.340 grams per 100 km, off-road (with any weather conditions) with the included razdatka 22.404 grams per 100 km, in city mode 13.630 (plus minus 800 grams) ... on Bobik you can add about 2 liters ... but ... you can pour surrogatina into Bobik unlike Niva, if such a surrogate is to be poured into the Niva, then the "fist of friendship" is guaranteed to you, if the trampler is adjusted to a surrogate, then you can do with replacing the rings and exhaust valves ..... well, something like this .... by the way, but you Kostya tried to fill in foltski and other lexus yes that iota AI-80? try .... I am sure you will make a crap for yourself, and at a high price, but in Bobik Lei whatever. lizh would burn
          1. Constanty
            Constanty 25 November 2020 13: 56
            0
            It's strange. in my 469B 1987 it was - just like that (depicts another car, but similar to mine)

            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 14: 18
              0
              It's strange. in my 469 1987B it was - just like that ....... yeah. I realized that I missed the term odometer, I am calling ... I didn’t know when speaking, nevertheless, this term is especially unknown in the environment ... the speedometer-iconostasis is simpler, etc. ... in the auto world there are many terms that more easily express the essence ... there are a lot of examples ... Duc closer to the topic, .. Kostya. how did you measure the fuel consumption of the UAZ ... flop a couple of liters and walk a certain distance ... it did not stop ... you know that there is a dead residue in tank, m it depends on the slope ... there is a positive slope, then it will "fall" no well, the canister and the nearest village ... so my method of calculating fuel consumption is the most accurate
              1. Constanty
                Constanty 25 November 2020 15: 12
                0
                I always filled it completely and after about 400 km I refueled again - usually at the same station, so the distributor measured exactly the same, and the car was in the same horizontal position. I will say more - in autumn and winter it was even more than 16 liters / 100 km.
                Not surprisingly, friends often used diesel instead of the original engine - for example, the 2.0 from the Ford Sierra.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 15: 34
                  0
                  I always filled it completely and after about 400 km ..... to be honest ... SUVs are specific cars. therefore, due to the all-wheel drive, everyone has increased consumption, nevertheless, the consumption in the upgrade can be reduced by installing a five-stage "Karabas", I put a five-step from Fiat-124 in my field, of course, with my Priora on the highway, it cannot be compared in terms of petrol consumption, but nevertheless the consumption has decreased by a lot, by the way, why is Fiat's ... VAZon's five-stage is stupid, unlike Fiat's, Fiat's is perfectly balanced, ... well, for example, on a seven-stage five-stage in fifth gear at 80 km per hour, convulsions begin with detonation in the engine ... and on Fiatovskaya at least henna, at least 60 in tightness ... if speaking, I don’t know if there is a possibility from anything to beat a five-step on Bobik .... although .. it is necessary ... they are so good ... in Crimea, in private tourist coaches, one and the same Bobiks, (rare but there are) ... earn a lot of tugras on parquets and other bentleys of their owners
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 November 2020 10: 46
    0
    Surprisingly, the Czechs have so far operated Soviet UAZ vehicles. It is not surprising that the Czech army would not buy cars from Russia, no matter how economical they are, because the NATO chief would not allow. UAZ for its time was an excellent army car, and at that time they did not pay attention to the high consumption of gasoline. The main thing was cross-country ability, ease of use and reasonable price.
  12. BAI
    BAI 25 November 2020 10: 53
    +1
    According to the Czech media, since its introduction on the market in 1968, the legendary pickup truck has left its mark everywhere.

    Even at the North Pole!
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 November 2020 10: 54
    +3
    If we consider UAZ cars, then the real fuel consumption, taking into account off-road conditions, will average about 17 liters of gasoline per 100 km.
    Well, he eats too much, no one has ever concealed this. But the MACHINE! good Well, it is also not fair to compare with T. Hailux.
  14. tarabar
    tarabar 25 November 2020 11: 01
    +2
    For civilian service, Hilux is certainly preferable, but if you need a car for war, then UAZ is not an outsider here. For the war, the machine should be. simple to repair right in the field and cheap so that you can buy a lot of them. The reliability and resource of the UAZ are quite acceptable for wartime, I have not heard that someone would have dashed off 500+ km in a DB. The equipment will fail not for technical reasons, there will be a lot of broken donors around, and you can take advantage of this here and now this is the main question. And about barmaley on Toyota I will say that it is not a pity to drive free cars, they will break one they will give another.
    1. faiver
      faiver 25 November 2020 11: 14
      +2
      The reliability and resource of the UAZ are quite acceptable for wartime
      - that army UAZ-3151 has not been produced for a long time, and the hunter and the patriot do not shine with reliability either ... hi
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 25 November 2020 21: 24
      0
      Quote: tarabar
      For civilian service, Hilux is certainly preferable, but if you need a car for war, then UAZ is not an outsider here. For the war, the machine should be. simple to repair right in the field and cheap so that you can buy a lot of them. The reliability and resource of the UAZ are quite acceptable for wartime, I have not heard that someone would have dashed off 500+ km in a DB. The equipment will fail not for technical reasons, there will be a lot of broken donors around, and you can take advantage of this here and now this is the main question. And about barmaley on Toyota I will say that it is not a pity to drive free cars, they will break one they will give another.


      When was the last time you saw the UAZ Hunter?
      What engine does it have?
      What are the brains of the engine?
      What bridges are there?

      These are completely unrepairable machines in the field.
      1. tarabar
        tarabar 26 November 2020 07: 07
        -1
        Believe me, I can imagine what I'm talking about. We have two Mitsubishi L200s at work with a mileage of over 600 t.km. the cars are reliable and passable, but expensive to maintain and not everything can be done with your own hands, there is not enough qualifications, information and sometimes tools. There is a UAZ Pickup and a Cargo with runs under 300 t.km., with them permanent hemorrhoids, but they are repaired once or twice and for a penny, the only exception is the checkpoint and RCP on the Pickup are the Khundaevskys, there the price tags for spare parts are somehow not divine.
        I do not drown for UAZ, but at a distance of 10-15-20 t.km. he will fulfill his task, and in the conditions of the database, the vehicles are unlikely to last longer, look at the losses in Karabakh, there the average mileage of cars during the conflict and two thousand probably will not be typed. If you reasonably argue a car that will be destroyed / damaged within 3-4 months. and with a range of 5-6 t.km. which is preferable to UAZ for 800 tr. or Hilux for 2,5 million The answer, I think, is obvious. And for peacetime, of course, Hilux is beautiful, reliable, comfortable.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 November 2020 11: 02
    +1
    With their anti-Russian policy, the Czechs a priori will not take UAZ vehicles. Hence the conclusion, even if they drive donkeys, we don't care.
    Well, and most importantly, I don't know how true, UAZ and Gelik are considered the most recognized SUVs.
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 November 2020 11: 03
    -1
    laughing The Czech generals had a good swag from the Japanese. They will save a penny on gasoline, and lose a hundred on depreciation. winked
    1. faiver
      faiver 25 November 2020 11: 20
      +1
      this could only be written by a person who has nothing to do with the operation of UAZs by non-private owners ...
  17. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 25 November 2020 11: 17
    +2
    And if you add insurance and consumables to the cost of fuel, then the cost of owning a Toyota will grow slightly.
    And the service will most likely be done not in the garage of the army unit, but driven to the ASC. And again the price tag will go up.
  18. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 25 November 2020 11: 18
    -2
    It is interesting to know the size of the rollback.
  19. Curt
    Curt 25 November 2020 11: 18
    0
    Toyota is not a car for war. a couple of raids on parking lots - and you will lose 10 times more money than a UAZ. Moreover, it is mainly only the comfort that changes, which is not obligatory for the soldiers.
  20. Strashila
    Strashila 25 November 2020 11: 19
    +1
    "The above calculation does not reflect spare parts and repair costs. Land Rover Defender and UAZ cars are now expensive to maintain, and Toyota Hilux cars will be under warranty" The warranty applies only to warranty cases of breakdowns and repairs only in the company center, and you still have to drag it to it, in the field on your knee now it will not work, again, not small costs. In winter, only one warming up of Toyota engines will burn all pseudo fuel economy. Yes, in fact, what is the load on the car ... in the region of 30 km per day with the declared 11000 km per year, by our standards they will simply stand.
  21. Victorio
    Victorio 25 November 2020 11: 24
    0
    The supplier of the new vehicles will be the Polish company Glomex.
    ===
    cunning psheki, already cars began to resell
  22. jovanni
    jovanni 25 November 2020 11: 28
    +3
    It's amazing that they still drive in the Czech Republic, although they got these UAZs in them during the Soviet Union. Which is no sooner than 30 years old ... Isn't that an indicator! ...
  23. faiver
    faiver 25 November 2020 11: 30
    +2
    Urapatriotism is off the charts here among the people laughing
    Army people UAZ-3151 have not been produced for a long time
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 15: 50
      +1
      Army people UAZ-3151 have not been produced for a long time .... in mlyn, why are there so many of them on the roads ..... but in the mountains it doesn’t drive anything else
      1. faiver
        faiver 25 November 2020 16: 05
        -1
        if you are not able to distinguish between the army UAZ-3151 and the civilian UAZ-Hunter, then this is not my problem ...
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 16: 10
          0
          then these are not my problems .... but what does the hunter have to do with it .... we have bobby bobs chasing everywhere, well, hunters are like an elite bobby, yon is less common ... that is, a long-liver bobby is still not in trend despite the fact that it has not been released for a long time
          1. faiver
            faiver 25 November 2020 16: 19
            -1
            most often you see simple civilian UAZ-31512 or 31514, and by no means the army UAZ-3151, they are outwardly almost indistinguishable, but released many times more ...
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 25 November 2020 19: 32
              +1
              come on, you can sarcast with Bobik's mods, there are so many of them wasted after 1991 that one hell knows where they scattered. yes there are bobby. batry and brdmki too, .. by the way, if you are on an excursion in the Crimea in the Chifut Kale area. it’s awesome ... and it doesn’t matter army bobby or civilian .. what matters is that this Spartan has served faithfully and truthfully and will continue to serve indefinitely. ... and the Czechs. yes figs with them. ... they can generally use bicycles for their armed forces ... but on the laiba, you can simply cover 100 km
  24. AML
    AML 25 November 2020 11: 48
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    Quote: Runoway
    diesel 11l / 100km, TO 15tkm


    Oh well. And the oil in the box never needs to be changed, as LongLife is filled.
    1. mister-red
      mister-red 25 November 2020 16: 46
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      There is no LongLife oil, this is marketing. It is necessary to change after 10 thousand, and if you drive intensively, then after 5-7 thousand. And even better, by engine hours, every 300.
      1. AML
        AML 25 November 2020 17: 50
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        Of course there is no life-long oil. It was sarcasm about TO for diesels.
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 25 November 2020 21: 26
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      Quote: AML
      Quote: Runoway
      diesel 11l / 100km, TO 15tkm


      Oh well. And the oil in the box never needs to be changed, as LongLife is filled.


      Are there no bridges in the UAZ? no handouts? No checkpoint?
      Doesn't he need the same 8 liters, absolutely the same transmission oil, as for Toyota?
      When was the last time you serviced UAZ?
  25. 41st region
    41st region 25 November 2020 11: 56
    +2
    Hilux ("Hulex" lol ) is a great machine. This is a Japanese workhorse. Applies to any generation.
    But there are a lot of questions for such a car in the army.
    And the first one is the fuel system. Diesel 1CD-FTV (common rail) - in the army it looks like a sentence. One "successful" low-quality gas station and hello to injectors and high-pressure fuel pumps. Or is there an L-series diesel, "cast iron"?
    The reliability of the suspension will give odds to any car of the same class. In terms of maintainability, it is more difficult than the UAZ. And more expensive. And a lot. In terms of cross-country ability, I can't compare, we don't drive "shit" in UAZs, the cars mostly belong to state organizations. In terms of comfort, these cars are not very different, in the "Hulex" it is much closer. In terms of the reliability of electrical equipment, UAZ lags far behind.
  26. krops777
    krops777 25 November 2020 12: 31
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    However, the publication believes that this figure is underestimated and, taking into account the movement on rough terrain, it will be equal to 11 liters of diesel fuel.


    Nude nude. knowing the experience of operating this unit with 2,4D, even if you feel sick on the highway in the summer at least 11 liters. and only the intersection there and 30ki will not be enough.
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 25 November 2020 21: 27
      -1
      Quote: krops777
      However, the publication believes that this figure is underestimated and, taking into account the movement on rough terrain, it will be equal to 11 liters of diesel fuel.


      Nude nude. knowing the experience of operating this unit with 2,4D, even if you feel sick on the highway in the summer at least 11 liters. and only the intersection there and 30ki will not be enough.

      Do not.
      On the Route more than 8 does not eat, if you do not drown under 140-160 ...

      My drivers have a summer limit of 10 liters per hundred square meters for the lack of zhlrozh, and 11.5 liters per hundred square meters for winter.

      Everybody fits in.
      GUN125
      1. krops777
        krops777 26 November 2020 07: 30
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        Do not.
        On the Route more than 8 does not eat, if you do not drown under 140-160 ...

        My drivers have a summer limit of 10 liters per hundred square meters for the lack of zhlrozh, and 11.5 liters per hundred square meters for winter.

        Everybody fits in.
        GUN125


        Physics cannot be fooled, moving off the asphalt onto a country road and driving knee-deep mud is not the same thing, and not everyone has + -0 winter, and military vehicles are usually more utilitarian without newfangled ecology and economy tricks.
  27. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 25 November 2020 13: 12
    -1
    Yes, the show-off is scary in their heads ..., UAZ and Defender (the name is also in the subject) quite authentically approach military equipment, especially the UAZ. At the expense of consumption, I do not argue that they are not so economical, but maybe helmets should be made cheaper?! And about repairs - I don’t know about the Land Rover, but the UAZ cannot be expensive for spare parts, in any garage cooperative they can whip up.
  28. Evil 55
    Evil 55 25 November 2020 13: 13
    -3
    And how many UAZs one Toyota Hilux initially costs and how much its vaunted reliability in military operation will last .. But I, UAZ, will disassemble it on my knee, having two keys, a piece of sandpaper and a jack, and in two hours I will go ... in any conditions and in any direction ... The article once again says that people, even in the army, due to laziness lose the simplest technical competencies, becoming nothing more than consumers in an attempt to save money on trifles and report on great achievements ..
    1. three
      three 25 November 2020 14: 32
      +2
      Arabs-militants are also "on their knees" collecting toyotas-jihad ... "Technical competence" of our drivers - yes, above, no doubt, (especially the military, due to the selection from ordinary non-Moscow guys). But, the UAZ was hopelessly stuck somewhere in the 70s ... This is our common misfortune - there are no available technologies ... (there were 469,31514 and two pradics)
  29. Million
    Million 25 November 2020 14: 11
    +2
    If UAZ developed at least somehow ...
    And if you think about it: who cares about this Czech Republic? We did everything right: they will at least save money with Toyota
  30. Kushka
    Kushka 25 November 2020 15: 01
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    I also want to save money - I bought a mask, the warranty is over,
    The record is broken, don't tell me, it's being repaired
    or everything, with ends?
  31. saygon66
    saygon66 25 November 2020 19: 42
    +1
    - But Skoda has its own developments ...

    Skoda 973 Babeta ...
    - Or the more modern Skoda Vision T ...