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Russia is being turned into a country of fools

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Russia is being turned into a country of fools
Quote from the movie "Dunno on the Moon". Dir. Yuri Butyrin, Alexander Lyutkevich. 1997. Russia.


Distant kills school


The first months of distance learning (distance learning system) showed that it led to a sharp drop in the level of mass education.

Our school, which has been “democratized”, “optimized” (and, in fact, destroyed) since the 1990s, is now barely breathing anyway (The agony of the Russian school).

The last Soviet cadres are leaving, promising young people are moving to other areas (mainly commerce, services). Some young teachers leave for large cities, where salaries and opportunities for personal growth are higher. In the countryside and small towns there is a severe shortage of personnel. Teachers are relegated to the role of servants. Up to people who provide a set of commercial services.

Knowledge sale


Western standards, such as the test system, the Unified State Exam, destroyed the basic program that gave pupils and students a classical education, the ability to analyze, think independently and critically. A student of the Soviet school had such a foundation that he could become a mathematician, chemist, historian, and art worker. Nowadays, consumers and "managers" (sellers) are produced. Education is being transferred to a commercial track. To enter a good educational institution, you need additional paid lessons, tutors.

Distance struck a powerful new blow to the school.

First, teachers, often elderly, cannot readily adapt to the new system. On the other hand, in rural areas, schools, teachers and parents do not have the opportunity to organize high-quality distance education. Digital learning does not give the student normal knowledge, since the learning process is very complex. It includes pedagogy, methodology and learning assessment. Only a living teacher can provide this.

Mentor - only for the elite


Secondly, the old system of teacher (mentor) - student has been worked out for thousands of years. Nothing better was found. Video tutorials (compared to a normal lesson) are a pitiful surrogate. Many students do not perceive remote classes as full-fledged, real. It's a game for them. A lot of time is spent looking for material.

Only senior pupils, students who are aware that they need it, are more or less willing to study independently. For young and middle-aged children, this is a game. Such lessons are easy to skip, to find an "excuse". Most of the children in this format will not be able to get a normal education.

Hire a governor or shut up


For parents, this is another new problem. Most ordinary people are busy with work, survival. They do not have free time and funds to teach their own children (as in school), or to hire tutors and tutors. And not everyone can teach. There are people with good education, but they cannot explain something new to the child, they are not given.

At the same time, as manipulators of consciousness like to do, black is repainted into white and vice versa. They are trying to blame the problem exclusively on the parents. Like, if a child does not have a mobile phone, tablet and computer with the Internet, then irresponsible parents are to blame. Atu them.

Sterile minds


Thirdly, children are increasingly immersed in the "digital" world. Computers, laptops, telephones are replacing real life. Entire generations have been created with "washed" or "clean" brains. Without knowledge, ability to think, analyze. This is a deliberate degradation (stupefaction) of the younger generation.

In addition, children are left unattended for a large amount of time. Ideally, they should study, do something (culture, art, science, technology, physical culture) from morning to evening. Idleness and an excess of entertainment also lead to complete degradation. "Freedom" leads to an increase in child alcoholism, drug addiction (including fashionable electronic cigarettes), crime, the emergence of youth gangs, debauchery and early pregnancies, abortions.

Servants - a primitive skill set


In general, this whole program is similar to the one that at one time for the "subhumans" was developed by the German Nazis. The "higher race", the "chosen ones" need stupid, illiterate slaves. Plus a solution to the problem of growing the world's population.

The situation with the "virus" played the best role in the topic. It made it possible to dramatically accelerate the processes of transition to a "digital society" ("Digital" Buchenwald). In Russia, compulsory digitalization of schools is spelled out in the Education 2030 project. In it, in particular, it is noted that the last stage of the education reform will take place in 2022–2030. The digital school and distance learning should completely supplant and replace the traditional school. That is (as we have been observing for more than a year now) the children of the "chosen" -the rich study in elite schools and universities abroad or in Russia (where traditional teaching methods are preserved), and for the rest there will be a fairly primitive set of knowledge (to be able to read, count , and use the Internet. Perhaps, know the law of God).

Ram community


We remember the great Russian writer Nikolai Nosov and his "Dunno on the Moon":

“At first, you will be fed and watered and treated with whatever you want, and you will not have to do anything. Know yourself eat and drink, have fun and sleep, and walk as much as you like. From such a stupid pastime, the short man on the island gradually grows stupid, runs wild, then begins to grow overgrown with wool and eventually turns into a ram or a sheep. "

And then they are cut ...

Destruction of the Russian school - liquidation of Russia


Obviously, the distance is pure profanation of education.

A child cannot receive a full-fledged education remotely. Only through a teacher-mentor. This method can be partially and additionally used only in senior and high school, when children already have the skills for independent learning and some responsibility. Not surprisingly, such training has led to a sharp drop in the quality of education.

In Russia, when the students were sent home in the spring, it took a very short time for it to become noticeable to both teachers and parents. In the West, where the digital school has been introduced for years, there is already relevant research. The ability of students to understand what is written, to mathematics, their native language, etc. decreases. Everywhere the traditional school gives better results than the digital one. Distance learning is hitting the mental and physical health of children. Stress, weakness, aggressiveness, headaches, blurred vision and hearing. Digital autism (degradation of certain areas of the brain) and digital addiction can often be more dangerous than illegal chemicals.

Consumer slaves needed


It is also a further division of society. The mass, traditional school is dying. An individual trajectory of digital learning for each student is introduced. There will be no collective training, no basic knowledge obligatory for everyone, no single Russian (any national, civilizational) educational space.

In fact, a caste, estate (slave-owning) society looms before us.

The inscription made by the Nazis over the entrance to the Buchenwald concentration camp:

"To each his own".

The rich have the opportunity to educate children in elite schools, lyceums, universities. All talented, gifted children will also be singled out, since promising young people are needed by large corporations. There is a need for programmers, engineers, architects, artists, etc. The rest will be servants, "cannon fodder" in local wars, guards of the new order, consumer slaves.

And who is in the black?


Who is in the black? Information companies that sell their product receive huge profits. They work in conjunction with the largest banks, funds and pharmaceutical companies.

A digital project is a business based on information, big data. People from childhood are covered with a digital "cap". Digital or distance education is an opportunity to get almost all information about a child and his family.

Digital slavery


World TNCs and TNBs, financial capital are building a new version of the slave-owning civilization - “digital babylon”. In the black are the officials and the oligarchic capital, who have brought the great power to the handle. For years they have been selling the wealth of Russia to the West and East, eating up the legacy of Soviet civilization. Fools and slaves cannot "ask" them. True, such a Russia and people have no future.

Also, the authorities, which since the 90s have been striving to "optimize" the entire country and people, a digital school, distance is beneficial from an economic standpoint. You can once again "optimize" (reduce) the number of schools, save on their maintenance (heating, electricity, water supply, food, etc.), salaries, equipment and buses. It is difficult with funds now, there is a crisis in the world and in Russia, so the social budget is being cut. Distance learning is cheaper. One person can give a lecture to hundreds of children. No room, textbooks or teaching materials needed. Cheap and cheerful!

Country of idiots 2.0.


In conclusion, we can quote the words of the great Soviet and Russian scientist Sergei Kapitsa:
“The VTsIOM data indicate that we have finally come to what we have been striving for all these 15 years, - we have brought up the country of idiots. If Russia continues to follow the same course, then in another ten years there will be no more of those who today at least occasionally pick up a book. And we will get a country that will be easier to rule, from which it will be easier to suck natural resources. But this country has no future! "


This prophecy was made in 2010.
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  1. Alexga
    Alexga 26 November 2020 16: 07
    +74
    “The VTsIOM data indicate that we have finally come to what we have been striving for all these 15 years, - we have brought up the country of idiots. If Russia continues to follow the same course, then in another ten years there will be no more of those who today at least occasionally pick up a book. And we will get a country that will be easier to rule, from which it will be easier to suck natural resources. But this country has no future! "

    There’s nothing to add!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 November 2020 16: 25
      +51
      Quote: AlexGa

      There’s nothing to add!

      Indeed .. it is a rare case when what is happening in education and the consequences of such an approach is described in such a detailed and convincing manner.
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        1. tatra
          tatra 26 November 2020 16: 40
          +50
          The period after the capture of Russia by you, the enemies of the communists, is a total degradation of ALL branches of Russia, and the vocabulary of those who own the country. Enemies of the communists are people of the lowest quality, both in work, capable only of ruining everything and cowardly shifting the blame on others, as well as in mentality, intellect, and vocabulary.
          1. Nazar
            Nazar 27 November 2020 03: 31
            +24
            tatra - The greatest meanness towards our people and country was not even committed by Chubais, but by this trinity of education ministers: Filippov, Fursenko and Livanov. They really deprived the country of the future.
            The article briefly noted the coincidence of the actions of the government of the Russian Federation with the "Ost" plan of the Nazis.
            Skomorokhov promised to consider these coincidences in more detail, but apparently "blown away". And there are not just "coincidences" - there is almost complete correspondence, and not only in education, the same in medicine, but practically in all aspects of the Ost plan.
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 27 November 2020 12: 11
              +3
              Skomorokhov promised to consider these coincidences in more detail, but apparently "blown away". And there are not just "coincidences" - there is almost complete correspondence, and not only in education, the same in medicine, but practically in all aspects of the Ost plan.
              Skomorokhov is an apologist for democracy and capitalism. He can't scold him. Otherwise he won't be paid. And if he compares the capitalism that now reigns in the country with what the Nazis wanted to do (and the Democrats did), it could cost him his career.
              1. Nazar
                Nazar 27 November 2020 12: 30
                +2
                AKuzenka - Apparently so, but after all, I hinted about this, recently, I don't remember in which article ... then apparently cooled down and "passed back" request
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 27 November 2020 12: 24
              +21
              Quote: Nazar
              but this trinity of ministers of education: Filippov, Fursenko and Livano

              Do you really think that they are independent figures? They are just pawns in the global (and ingenious) plan for the collapse and destruction of Russia. There are the same in any ministry. Uncle Vova, in principle, is also not a queen or a king, and even less a grandmaster in this chess game. hi
              1. Nazar
                Nazar 27 November 2020 12: 28
                +11
                Ingvar 72 - I absolutely agree with you, this trinity is nothing more than "nails" on someone else's hand, but where the "head" is located is a big question.
                ny is just a Gauleiter of the occupation administration, with some limited powers, but nothing more.
          2. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 27 November 2020 16: 26
            -13%
            yeah, the current USSR was destroyed by the communists)
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 3 December 2020 07: 14
              0
              Quote: Boris Chernikov
              yeah, the current USSR was destroyed by the communists)

              communists are an ambiguous concept. there are communists out of conviction or just so called themselves the disguised Soviet bourgeoisie.
              1. Boris Chernikov
                Boris Chernikov 3 December 2020 10: 24
                -2
                which the communists created and brought to power ... you can create colors as you like, but the fact remains - the communists destroyed the USSR
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 3 December 2020 20: 44
                  0
                  Quote: Boris Chernikov
                  but the fact remains - the USSR was destroyed by the communists

                  Who created the USSR? communists too?
                  1. Boris Chernikov
                    Boris Chernikov 3 December 2020 21: 03
                    0
                    iiiii? how should this affect?) or from the thought that the fiery communists ruined the country starts to bake?
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 4 December 2020 07: 19
                      0
                      Quote: Boris Chernikov
                      or from the thought that the ardent communists ruined the country starts to bake?

                      solidarity in hatred for the last generations of communists ... has been baking for a long time. But there were also positive things at the beginning of the path?
                      1. Boris Chernikov
                        Boris Chernikov 4 December 2020 13: 48
                        0
                        but what does "at the beginning of the journey" have to do with it? we are talking about specific communists
                      2. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 4 December 2020 14: 54
                        0
                        Quote: Boris Chernikov
                        but what does "at the beginning of the journey" have to do with it? we are talking about specific communists

                        about what?
                      3. Boris Chernikov
                        Boris Chernikov 4 December 2020 16: 50
                        -1
                        and everyone who was in power in the 80s
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 November 2020 17: 21
      +52
      Quote: El Dorado
      You, the editor, just to throw on the fan.
      Svarog, stink elsewhere

      Then I will write to you and show you my school now, where I graduated from the seven-year school ... Here she is a former beauty, built at the beginning of the reign of Alexander III, which gave the country literate people for 100 years, having survived the Nazi invasion, but did not survive in the era of the Unified State Exam (Church on the left ). Zagusinye village, Dukhovshchinsky district, Smolensk region

      Zagusinye village, then the place is really dead. Moreover, it does not give off the usual melancholy, but some kind of horror. Frost on the skin ... Even in broad daylight, it seems as if twilight is deepening here, the heartbreaking creak of shutters and doors of abandoned houses is heard everywhere, in the abandoned school building there is a deadly cold, a huge inscription “LEAVE!” Flaunts on the walls ... And ... ah-ah-ah ... somewhere suddenly there was a crying baby ... No, after all, there is one residential building there. An unreal relief!
      People !!! What have we lost.
      1. Arkon
        Arkon 26 November 2020 18: 07
        -45%
        You, the editor, just to throw on the fan.
        Svarog, stink elsewhere


        Was this comment removed? What is wrong with it? This is what Svarog does. Because I have never seen this character rejoice at the successes of my country, but I constantly observe the constant groaning of any news concerning Russia. And the search for the negative is exactly what is given in the quote and what "it is impossible to write about".
        This despite the fact that I agree with the article. But not with Svarog.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 26 November 2020 18: 22
          +42
          The country is not only yours)) I believe that the comment was deleted correctly. There is nothing to go over to personalities and assign labels to strangers. When you write a comment, then write your point of view on this problem, or give arguments. And just throwing words is not from a great mind, since you can not object anything
          1. Eldorado
            Eldorado 26 November 2020 18: 34
            -50%
            Svarog in EVERY article haits our country. However, he does not give any connotics. Just compare his comments with mine.
            And yesterday one "smart guy" called me "a Mexican descendant of Trotsky" and wrote that I needed to hit me in the head with an ice pick, but for some reason no one deleted his comment, although there was a threat of reprisals wassat
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 06
              +41
              Quote: El Dorado
              Svarog in EVERY article haits our country.

              Only yours? And where is my country, the country of a pensioner with a pension of 16 thousand, the collapse of medicine? Can you live on 16 thousand? Or order zircon on the bread to spread? Worked since 1980, how long have you lived?
              1. Clear
                Clear 26 November 2020 20: 46
                -32%
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: El Dorado
                Svarog in EVERY article haits our country.

                Only yours? And where is my country, the country of a pensioner with a pension of 16 thousand, the collapse of medicine? Can you live on 16 thousand? Or order zircon on the bread to spread? Worked since 1980, how long have you lived?


                Sylvester, so go and ask
                Quote: Silvestr
                Where is my country
                Zelensky. You yourself wrote that you moved to Russia from Ukraine.
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              2. Machito
                Machito 27 November 2020 12: 19
                +1
                Sylvester lives in Crimea.
                1. Clear
                  Clear 27 November 2020 20: 57
                  -2
                  Quote: Bearded
                  Sylvester lives in Crimea.

                  It would be fine to live, he works hard here, incl. against the Crimea.
            2. skifd
              skifd 28 November 2020 10: 49
              +4
              pensioner with a pension of 16 thousand

              My wife has 9t. +. What are we complaining about?
          2. Wizzzard
            Wizzzard 26 November 2020 20: 29
            +20
            Quote: El Dorado
            Svarog in EVERY article hait our country. However, he does not give any connotics. Just compare his comments with mine.
            And yesterday one "smart guy" called me "a Mexican descendant of Trotsky" and wrote that I needed to hit me in the head with an ice pick, but for some reason no one deleted his comment, although there was a threat of reprisals wassat

            Discussion about the disaster in the education system. And you, my dear fellow, want to prove with your illiteracy that the death of our Russian (Soviet) school began even before the Unified State Exam. "Khait", "pravocator" ... Or are you for reviving?
            1. your1970
              your1970 29 November 2020 00: 19
              0
              Quote: Wizzzard
              And you, my dear fellow, want to prove with your illiteracy that the death of our Russian (Soviet) school began even before the Unified State Exam.

              No ??? !!!
              People who put sore spots on the TV during the sessions of Kashpirovsky / Chumak - graduated from school even under Stalin / Khrushchev ... not with the exam ...
              The formula "this is not a ram, this is a gift! And a ram is studying at the institute" It also appeared not with the Unified State Exam. I heard it in the 70s ...
              The formula "if you are a bad student, you will go to the pedagogue !!!" also appeared about 30 years before the exam ...
              The formula "If you won't study, you will go to vocational school !!"

              Moreover, I am 1% sure that if they now return to the Soviet version of education, then a teacher who drives a Gelendvagen will be considered a rogue lol and a loser. ...... ...
              Traffic cops will cry from envy - there are much fewer cars than children - schoolchildren lol
              1. aglet
                aglet 29 November 2020 11: 32
                +4
                "People who put sore spots on the TV during the sessions of Kashpirovsky / Chumak - they graduated from school under Stalin / Khrushchev ... not with the Unified State Exam ..."
                that where to apply is everyone's personal business, but he knows how to spell often, and zhi-shi, and also that the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea, which the current victims cannot boast of
                "Formula" is not a sheep - it is a gift! And the ram at the institute studies "It also did not appear with the exam. I heard it in the 70s ..." "
                then it was the exception to the rule, but now it is the rule. there is a difference?
                "Formula" If you don't study, you will go to vocational school !! "she is also before the exam"
                percent of 90 current sellers (managers) with higher education and it was necessary to study at a vocational school for simple working specialties, you look, and professional cadres for the industrialization of the country would appear, and the French would not have to be invited to thaw the wires, as in Vladivostok
                1. your1970
                  your1970 29 November 2020 15: 13
                  0
                  Quote: aglet
                  that where to apply is everyone's personal business, but he knows how to spell often, and zhi-shi, and also that the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea, which the current victims cannot boast of

                  That is, absolute ignoramuses - those who know life and thicket - but those who do not know what to treat through TV is impossible - better than the current ones ?? !! Funny ...
                  Quote: aglet
                  then it was an exception to the rule

                  Just then it was the rule - a guy from the village, even in theory, could not enter MGIMO, in principle he could not. I am generally silent about trade institutions - in Central Asia, it cost 1987 to enroll there in 15
                  My relatives in 1984 with a pull in the person of the colonel general, deputy commander
                  in one of the districts, they could not enter the Volsk rear school. Another relative got into the Syzran helicopter only after paying 10 in 000
                  Now thanks to the exam, this is possible.

                  Quote: aglet
                  percent of 90 current sellers (managers) with higher education and it was necessary to study at a vocational school for simple working specialties, you see, and professional cadres for the industrialization of the country would appear
                  - but you didn't get it ...
                  Even then, goofs to plow at the factory, the machine was getting fewer and fewer, everyone wanted to be the boss ...
                  That is why the formula about vocational schools appeared .... Moreover, if now they start paying 100 turners, there will not be a queue of frenzied people who want to, it is necessary to plow there ... put and basta ...
                2. aglet
                  aglet 1 December 2020 10: 08
                  +1
                  "Just then it was the rule - a guy from the village, even in theory, could not enter MGIMO, in principle he could not"

                  controversial statement, but that's not even the point. a guy from the village did not strive to go there - he wanted to become an agronomist, engineer, teacher, but not a diplomat. Then there was no convulsive aspiration at the word `` instant '', as you have now, but there were much more needed and demanded specialties in the countryside, which were fairly well paid. and do not give examples from the USSR in Central Asia and the times of Gorbachev. there never was Soviet power there, and their merchant was a respected person, because doctors, teachers, engineers and agronomists there were mostly Russians, the locals hardly mastered these specialties. I was familiar at one time with a graduate of the Syzran vocational school, so he said that the main difficulties in admission were only for health, and they taught everyone to read and write. but that was before 1986.
                  PS some family you have is unlucky, everywhere you only received money for money. There was not enough knowledge? So it was necessary to study better at school, and not to dream about it
                3. your1970
                  your1970 1 December 2020 12: 22
                  0
                  Quote: aglet
                  a guy from the village did not strive to go there - he wanted to become an agronomist, engineer, teacher, but not a diplomat.

                  Competition 60 a person to a place in SHUKU and MGIMO, I entered Gubkin (kerosene) - offshore oil and gas facilities - 1,8 person per place and in Engineers of water transport- 1,6 person to place. Catch the difference - which universities were more popular in 1987?
                  The competition in the pedagogical institute was 0,8 people per place, the competition in the trade technical College in Saratov-6 (!!!), in the Engels institute of consumer cooperation - up to 10 people reached in different years
                  The only technical universities in Moscow with a big competition were Baumanka and MISIS ... I don't know why ...
                  Quote: aglet
                  do not give examples from the USSR in Central Asia and the times of Gorbachev. there never was the Soviet regime

                  In general, Central Asia occupied about 40% of the USSR. If you are talking about the absence of Soviet power there, then what nafig "one mighty Soviet Union"? !!!!

                  Quote: aglet
                  so it was necessary to study better at school

                  One triple in physical training, everything else is 5-4 in fairness, 70% of them -5 ki ...
                  Quote: aglet
                  , everywhere they did it only for money.

                  There was no extra money - my father was the boss with a fairly small salary.
                  Here they used the pull - it was business ...

                  Z. Y. How did the people who came to the village according to distribution after university from the city work?
                4. aglet
                  aglet 2 December 2020 09: 58
                  0
                  "In general, Central Asia occupied about 40% of the USSR.
                  even in terms of territory, much less, and even in terms of population, generally nonsense, in every sense
                  "Competition of 60 people for a place in SHUKU and MGIMO, I entered Gubkin (kerosene stove) - offshore oil and gas facilities - 1,8 people per place"
                  And all these people who entered these shuki-simple village guys? And you entered Gubkin, because you could not imagine life without "offshore oil and gas facilities", or because the competition was smaller, and dreamed of being a diplomat?
                  "ZY. How did the people who came to the village work after graduation from the city? Most"
                  I asked many of my opponents what this stupid shout-zy means? No one answered. I suppose it's a cry of self-identification of people like you to quickly identify your fellow tribesmen. but about how people worked after distribution, you know better, but judging by your general attitude, they worked badly, and at the slightest opportunity they fled to the city. I studied in the direction, knew where I would go, and worked quietly in the village, but then my career made me move to the regional center, and then to the capital city
        2. Wizzzard
          Wizzzard 1 December 2020 13: 55
          0
          Quote: your1970
          Quote: Wizzzard
          And you, my dear fellow, want to prove with your illiteracy that the death of our Russian (Soviet) school began even before the Unified State Exam.

          No ??? !!!
          People who put sore spots on the TV during the sessions of Kashpirovsky / Chumak - graduated from school even under Stalin / Khrushchev ... not with the exam ...
          The formula "this is not a ram, this is a gift! And a ram is studying at the institute" It also appeared not with the Unified State Exam. I heard it in the 70s ...
          The formula "if you are a bad student, you will go to the pedagogue !!!" also appeared about 30 years before the exam ...
          The formula "If you won't study, you will go to vocational school !!"

          Moreover, I am 1% sure that if they now return to the Soviet version of education, then a teacher who drives a Gelendvagen will be considered a rogue lol and a loser. ...... ...
          Traffic cops will cry from envy - there are much fewer cars than children - schoolchildren lol

          There is something wrong with you. Something is very problematic. I wrote about what it looks like crazy when, in a discussion about education, a person writes with the wildest mistakes. Whether talking about, say, Madame Tikhanovskaya or Miss (is) Psaki is another matter. But this thread is absurd! And you rushed about the Chumakov-Kashpirovskys to tell ...
          1. your1970
            your1970 1 December 2020 14: 37
            -1
            I had the pleasure to suffer from exams in BEFORE USE times

            And the example of Kashpirovsky clearly shows that the problems in Soviet education began at the latest in the 70s, but really in the 60s.
            When they started to go to pedagogical institutes because they didn't go anywhere else, they couldn't, and the tower seemed to be right ...
    3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
      Obi-Wan Kenobi 27 November 2020 06: 17
      +8
      And yesterday one "smart guy" called me "the Mexican descendant of Trotsky" and wrote that I needed to be hit in the head with an ice pick ...

      And correctly named!
      ... but for some reason no one deleted his comment, although there is a threat of violence

      What became scary?
      Don't be afraid! You consider yourself to be right, but for your truth it is not a sin to be shocked! How do you think?
      Maybe at least after that, take up your mind.
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 27 November 2020 08: 46
      +9
      Quote: El Dorado
      And yesterday one "smart guy" called me "a Mexican descendant of Trotsky" and wrote that I needed to hit me in the head with an ice pick, but for some reason nobody deleted his comment

      Scream!))) So he wrote it allegorically, with humor, not in the eyebrow but in the eye! Why delete such a good comment?
    5. Private89
      Private89 27 November 2020 16: 29
      +6
      El Dorado you are simply a moral person. Moral according to Nekrasov

      Moral man
      Living according to strict morality,
      I have done no harm to anyone in my life.
      My wife, covering her face with a veil,
      In the evening I went to her lover;
      I sneaked into his house with the police
      And he caught ... He called: I didn't fight!
      She went to bed and died
      Tormented by shame and sorrow ...
      Living according to strict morality,
      I have done no harm to anyone in my life.
      I had a daughter; fell in love with the teacher
      And I wanted to run away with him in a temper.
      I threatened her with a curse: resigned
      And she married a gray-haired rich man.
      Their house was shining and full like a cup;
      But Masha suddenly began to turn pale and fade away
      And a year later she died in consumption,
      Having struck the whole house with deep sadness ...
      Living according to strict morality,
      I have done no harm to anyone in my life ... I gave the peasant to the cook:
      He succeeded; a good cook is happiness!
      But often absent from the yard
      And the title is obscene addiction
      Had: loved to read and reason.
      I'm tired of threatening and scolding,
      Fatherly slapped him, with a canal,
      He took it and drowned himself: he found the crap!
      Living according to strict morality,
      I have done no harm to anyone in my life.
      My friend did not present the debt to me on time.
      I, hinting in a friendly way to him,
      The law has given us to judge:
      The law sentenced him to prison.
      He died in it without paying an altyn,
      But I'm not angry, even though there is a reason to be angry!
      I forgave him the debt that day
      Honoring him with tears and sorrow ...
      Living according to strict morality,
      I have done no harm to anyone in my life.
  2. Arkon
    Arkon 26 November 2020 18: 44
    -19%
    Yes, in principle, I agree with you. But sometimes a provocateur must be called a provocateur. And the enemy is an enemy, not a "partner". There are moments like this. And this, in my opinion, is exactly that moment.
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    2. Clear
      Clear 26 November 2020 20: 47
      -31%
      Quote: El Dorado
      Svarog only haits our country.

      It is for this purpose and attached here.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 26 November 2020 21: 14
        +22
        Quote: Clear
        It is here and attached for this

        Biden personally as opposed to you laughing
        1. Clear
          Clear 26 November 2020 21: 24
          -21%
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Clear
          It is here and attached for this

          Biden personally as opposed to you laughing

          Rejoiced at the new owner wassat .
          Well, at least this is joyful, otherwise all the posts are one pessimism crying
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      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 26 November 2020 23: 23
        +13
        Quote: Clear
        It is for this purpose and attached here.

        And what are you "attached" for?
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          1. Woodman
            Woodman 27 November 2020 07: 53
            +16
            Quote: Patriot.
            All that interests him is the rating on the site.

            ABOUT! I'm not the only one, so I came to this conclusion ...
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 27 November 2020 08: 56
            -2
            Quote: Patriot.
            All that interests him is the rating on the site.

            And why is it needed?

            It only gives the opportunity to either inflate the rating of another, or lower it to the minus. Apart from these games, nothing else.

            I will note that it is impossible to read a good half of the inflated marshals here. Utter grayness and ambition. And Svarog, with numerous advantages, has not even been a marshal yet! Its pluses are absolutely deserved. Try to collect as much yourself.
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          3. aglet
            aglet 29 November 2020 11: 54
            +2
            "Now he is raising his rating on an article about problems within our state, tomorrow he will pose as a patriot of the country."
            Can't a patriot of the country talk about problems in the country? Only urya-patriots do not see problems in their country
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 27 November 2020 00: 54
          +9
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          And what are you "attached" for?

          Imitate kneeling laughing
          1. Clear
            Clear 27 November 2020 21: 04
            +2
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            And what are you "attached" for?

            Imitate kneeling laughing

            Do not compare with your clowns - Zelensky and Poroshenko

  • New Year day
    New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 01
    +20
    Quote: Arkon
    Because I have never seen this character rejoice at the success of my country.

    Name your successes to begin with!
    Quote: Arkon
    And the search for the negative is exactly what is given in the quote and what "should not be written about."

    So write about the successes in the fight against Covid, Putin defeated him back in June or in the development of the economy. Where are 20 million jobs, where are the breakthroughs?
    1. Arkon
      Arkon 26 November 2020 20: 13
      -26%
      Quote: Silvestr
      Name your successes to begin with!


      So there are tens of thousands of them, but let's start:
      1. One of the three reactors of generation III + in the world and the only one that is currently operating
      2. The world's largest icebreaker fleet
      3. One of the two best military aviation in the world

      Well, so, for a seed. wink
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 26 November 2020 20: 31
        +22
        Few, and all is not right. What I mean? Success is one of the two best medicine in the world, the largest enterprises for the production of something, and not just pumping out subsoil, the inflow of foreign capital, the prestige of domestic universities, the inflow of foreigners (Europe / USA) wishing to obtain citizenship. Improving the quality and standard of living finally. Objection by cars in every yard? There are, of course, successes, but why is the province dying out, everyone leaves for Moscow? Is it because the overwhelming majority has no opportunity to earn at least 40 sput in non-Moscow
        1. Arkon
          Arkon 26 November 2020 20: 40
          -21%
          Quote: Dangerous
          Few, and everything is wrong


          So I write about it: "everything is not right for you." laughing
          You can be calculated that way. Well, you, or something, at least sometimes write: yes, well done here, and right away: but it's not that. Maybe it won't be so noticeable. lol
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 32
        +13
        Quote: Arkon
        1. One of the three reactors of generation III + in the world and the only one that is currently operating
        2. The world's largest icebreaker fleet
        3. One of the two best military aviation in the world

        And lack of health care! Have you seen about Omsk?
        How is it?

        It doesn't concern you ... yet.
        1. Arkon
          Arkon 26 November 2020 20: 37
          -20%
          Quote: Silvestr
          And lack of health care! Have you seen about Omsk?



          laughing So what am I talking about: you physically cannot rejoice in our successes. Everything inside you turns upside down from this. But it will be even worse for you - because there will be more and more successes. Well, it's just that the time has come. Our. wink
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 42
            +13
            Quote: Arkon
            you physically cannot enjoy our successes. You have everything inside

            Of course it turns over when you see this, and you are in suit, a follower of Gref and Chubais. But this is genocide, real. The problem is man-made
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 November 2020 22: 53
              -16%
              This bed fund of yours in Moscow and in Russia at the current rate of infection would be enough for 20 days maximum.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 27 November 2020 01: 05
              +11
              Quote: Vadim237
              This bed fund of yours in Moscow and in Russia at the current rate of infection would be enough for 20 days maximum.

              Did you work in this final fund in the spring? What is bed turnover, average stay, how long should a bed rest? Can you answer, expert organizer? And at the same time, why were beds installed at stadiums and aatocenters, why were infectious disease beds and infectious disease specialists reduced by 40%?
          2. Taga
            Taga 29 November 2020 10: 08
            +2
            [s] Cut back [s] optimize medicine, so that later hospitals will be opened at exhibitions!
      3. Clear
        Clear 26 November 2020 20: 51
        -20%
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Arkon
        1. One of the three reactors of generation III + in the world and the only one that is currently operating
        2. The world's largest icebreaker fleet
        3. One of the two best military aviation in the world

        And lack of health care! Have you seen about Omsk?
        How is it?

        It doesn't concern you ... yet.

        Sylvester, you asked, you were told what they were doing, like ... your colleagues from Russophobic Ukrainian channels.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 26 November 2020 21: 08
          +14
          Quote: Clear
          Sylvester, you asked, you were told what they were doing, like ... your colleagues from Russophobic Ukrainian channels.

          In essence, there is something to object or blah blah, as always?
          1. Clear
            Clear 26 November 2020 21: 14
            -22%
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Clear
            Sylvester, you asked, you were told what they were doing, like ... your colleagues from Russophobic Ukrainian channels.

            In essence, there is something to object or blah blah, as always?

            Judging by your answers, you and blah blah ... a lot
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 27 November 2020 01: 08
            +16
            Quote: Clear
            Judging by your answers, you and blah blah ... a lot

            So what about the provision of beds and doctors in covid conditions? Refute my statement that this issue is a fiasco of the authorities. I'm waiting for a thoughtful refutation laughing
            So let's check who is blah
          3. Clear
            Clear 27 November 2020 21: 15
            -6
            Quote: Silvestr
            Refute my statement that this issue is a fiasco of the authorities.

            Yes, the fiasco of your real power in Ukraine.

            Quote: Silvestr
            I'm waiting for a thoughtful refutation
            So wait, and we have a lot of work.

            Quote: Silvestr
            So let's check who is blah
            Did you write out an identity card for yourself? Or Soros, at the end of the Soros course "enemies without borders"?
          4. private person
            private person 28 November 2020 08: 22
            +5
            Yes, the fiasco of your real power in Ukraine.

            Why do you attribute all those who say the slightest bit of truth to Ukraine? If you yourself got involved in a dialogue, do not write nonsense everywhere you have Soros and enemies. You do not notice the beam in your eye.
          5. polar fox
            polar fox 29 November 2020 08: 54
            +4
            Quote: private person
            Why do you attribute all those who say the slightest bit of truth to Ukraine?

            "Ukraine of the brain" ... Kiselev and Solovyov revised.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 26 November 2020 23: 28
    +11
    Quote: Clear
    Sylvester, you asked, you were told what they were doing, like ... your colleagues from Russophobic Ukrainian channels.

    And on the merits of the commentary, can you answer anything?
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 27 November 2020 01: 10
      +15
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      And on the merits of the commentary, can you answer anything?

      This company cannot answer anything specifically. Their task is to throw their caps into the air and shout "hooray!" To every bunch of authorities.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 27 November 2020 10: 08
      -17%
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Quote: Clear
      Sylvester, you asked, you were told what they were doing, like ... your colleagues from Russophobic Ukrainian channels.

      And on the merits of the commentary, can you answer anything?

      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      And on the merits of the commentary, can you answer anything?

      This company cannot answer anything specifically. Their task is to throw their caps into the air and shout "hooray!" To every bunch of authorities.

      Sylvester, you still run the risk of two nicknames, work tirelessly against Russia.
    3. Clear
      Clear 27 November 2020 21: 18
      -8
      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      And on the merits of the commentary, can you answer anything?

      This company cannot answer anything specifically. Their task is to throw their caps into the air and shout "hooray!" To every bunch of authorities.

      It is better to shout "hurray!" With this company than with your eternal "guard, everything is lost" belay
      Yes, I understand that you are not your own in Russia and "zero" for the West.
      You remind Saakashvili.
    4. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd 28 November 2020 02: 40
      +8
      Dear Sylvester, sadly, you are right. scary people. creepy. the country's troubles are not from the authorities. but from such people. who are always "approved" in relation to the authorities. any. there will be another - nothing will change. will still be approved. there may not be many of them, but they are active and loud voices. and what is the most nasty - they appropriated the title of "patriots". the rest are agents of the State Department, the fifth column, or anyone else. patriots are just them. not so much doubting that they were right in the 30-40s, they denounced others. these same people yelled "little blood, on foreign territory", then they kicked Stalin with rapture, then Khrushchev, and then they threw mud at the entire history of the USSR. they have no doubts. and this is terrible. stick on the label "enemy" for them happiness.
      PySy. your comments are always interesting, I do not always agree with them. like they entered into controversy. it is impossible to argue with uryakalka and approving people. there is no thought. sets of cliches and stamps. and all around are enemies and traitors. default.
    5. zenion
      zenion 1 December 2020 15: 12
      0
      Skarpzd (Evgeny Kuzbass). How it became incomprehensible. Lenin wrote that the country needs complete electrification. This complete electro-fixation came and everyone cared about it. If the rulers say tomorrow we will hang everyone, then the people will only ask you to take the rope, or will they be given out there? Now, if something similar to Hitler attacked the country, then everyone would indifferently surrender.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 27 November 2020 09: 07
    +20
    Quote: Silvestr
    Have you seen about Omsk?

    Bastards. Homeless people do not take. Left to die on the street! Like insects of some kind.

    I barely got one! A person in distress and with a leaked eye! The hospital did not want to take. When I reminded about the Hippocratic oath, they told me - forget it. They also said:
    - Why did you pick him up? And if he died in your car for this article and such problems!

    This is all you need to know about free medicine in Russia.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 28 November 2020 17: 04
      0
      Quote: Stas157
      free medicine

      You know - nothing is free ..
  • Intruder
    Intruder 26 November 2020 20: 50
    +14
    One of three Generation III + reactors in the world and the only one that is actually working
    one, just one, Karl! :)
    The world's largest icebreaker fleet
    hmm, I found interesting graphics about the composition of icebreaker fleets by country:icebreaker infographic ...
    One of the two best military aviation in the world
    , well, here you can argue if you discard the Soviet legacy (precisely before 1991) and look at the modern successes in this area, over the past 30 years ...
    1. Arkon
      Arkon 26 November 2020 21: 04
      -10%
      Quote: Intruder
      one, just one, Karl! :)

      Two already, like: Leningrad and Belorussian nuclear power plants. And a lot is being built - well, blocks 6-8 for sure.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 26 November 2020 21: 13
        +10
        two, for the rest of the NPP for this country ..., as of November 2020, 11 power units are in operation in Russia at 38 operating nuclear power plants, of which:
        1 pressurized water reactors: 24 VVER-13 (1000 units of 12 MW and 1000 unit of 1 MW), 1100 VVER-4 (1200 MW), 1200 VVER-5 (440 units of 4 MW and 440 unit of 1 MW), 417 KLT-2S (40 MW);
        2. 12 channel boiling point reactors: 9 RBMK-1000 (1000 MW each) and 3 EGP-6 (12 MW each);
        3. 2 fast reactors: BN-600 (600 MW) and BN-800 (885 MW).
        What is being built ... must first be built and put into operation ...
        1. Arkon
          Arkon 26 November 2020 21: 24
          -11%
          I didn't understand what you want to say. I repeat: Russia is a leader in new generation reactors. Of the 59 reactors under construction in the world, 34 are built according to a Russian project. what is there to discuss and grimace? This is Russia's unique success.
          You just have to admit it and that's it.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 26 November 2020 21: 37
          +12
          I have already written, several comments and even replied several times, with infographics and public data as far as possible, about the NPP! And so, as in this article: "Country of idiots 2.0" :))) just no offense, this is not mine - but the author's ...
          PS
          Belarusian nuclear power plant
          already in the Russian Federation, located !?
        3. Arkon
          Arkon 26 November 2020 21: 43
          -19%
          Quote: Intruder
          already in the Russian Federation, located !?


          Yes, I consider us a single state. This is the only way it can be. Sooner or later. smile
        4. Arkon
          Arkon 26 November 2020 21: 47
          -15%
          Quote: Intruder
          I have already written, several comments and even replied several times, with infographics and public data as far as possible, about the NPP!


          It's not about the data, but about the fact that you cannot acknowledge Russia's successes. Well, you can't write: yes, Russia is the leader in this industry. And this, of course, is an undoubted success. Well, you can't write that - everything is in hints, but in semitones. wink
        5. Intruder
          Intruder 26 November 2020 22: 08
          +20
          why, I can :) when I see this success ... it is possible and necessary to write about the actual breakthrough, here the Russian cosmonautics is keeping up with the last bit of strength, but it's worth it ...! Rogozin even creates songs and registers a trademark: "Let's go", for marketing various products up to tobacco and alcoholic beverages, which is not an actual success in the Russian Federation, but the directors of the American NASA could not do that, none of them, Elon Musk cannot write songs , and Rogozin was able and well done!
          PS And the anthromorphic robot Fedor, the first on the ISS, was also a breakthrough by the way ... the USA could not launch such a product ... into orbit!
        6. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 26 November 2020 23: 12
          +22
          Quote: Arkon
          but the fact that you cannot recognize the successes of Russia. Well, you can't write: yes, in this industry Russia is the leader. And this, of course, is an undoubted success.

          If it does not bother you, please write in which industries Russia is still a leader. And if you mention the word Russia, then please write in which industries it does not use the "damned Soviet legacy".
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 26 November 2020 23: 15
      +19
      Quote: Arkon
      Of the 59 reactors under construction in the world, 34 are being built according to a Russian project. what is there to discuss and grimace? This is Russia's unique success.

      This is not "Russia's success," but not a completely squandered Soviet legacy. What are Russia's (namely Russia) breakthroughs in nuclear energy?
    3. Arkon
      Arkon 27 November 2020 10: 11
      -13%
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Quote: Arkon
      Of the 59 reactors under construction in the world, 34 are being built according to a Russian project. what is there to discuss and grimace? This is Russia's unique success.

      This is not "Russia's success," but not a completely squandered Soviet legacy. What are Russia's (namely Russia) breakthroughs in nuclear energy?


      This phrase about "Soviet legacy" wanders from commentary to commentary of Russophobes. Meanwhile, there is not a single country in the world, never in history, which, upon a change of government, would throw in the trash all the scientific developments made under previous governments and "start everything from scratch." Well, this is just a schizophrenic understanding of the surrounding world and relationships within it.
      Science in France, Germany, USA is based on discoveries and developments made in the 20th century. Why it should be different in Russia is not clear to anyone. Well, except for you, apparently. wink

      I'll tell you more. Even having experience in a particular area, it is very easy to lose them. How the USA and France lost their nuclear competence. How the United States lost the competence of the "lunar program". How the United States lost its tank building. I'm not even talking about our neighboring countries - Ukraine, Romania. Yes, even Poland, which has completely lost shipbuilding.

      But Russia not only did not lose the achievements of the Soviet period, but also successfully developed them, creating on their basis unsurpassed models of equipment and weapons.

      So, tie up with your "Soviet legacy". This phrase does not mean anything except your personal commitment. hi
    4. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 27 November 2020 10: 29
      +19
      Quote: Arkon
      But Russia not only did not lose the achievements of the Soviet period, but also successfully developed them, creating on their basis unsurpassed models of equipment and weapons.

      For example, in the space industry, civil aviation, machine tools. Aren't you funny yourself? The aircraft to replace the An-2 is still not in series, etc.
      Quote: Arkon
      So, tie up with your "Soviet legacy". This phrase does not mean anything except your personal commitment.

      The phrase about "Soviet legacy" reminds commentators like you about the achievements of the USSR and the "achievements" of today's Russia. This is what you could compare these two states.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 27 November 2020 10: 42
    +13
    I didn't understand what you want to say. I repeat: Russia is the leader in new generation reactors.


    Didn't understand what you want to say ..
    Russia is the leader in corruption, the number of the poor, and so on, so on, so on ..
    And what's the difference at all, how many reactors we have there ?? Yes, even let it be 100500 .. What's the point?

    So, by default, we have the richest country on the planet .. this is no longer a small SUCCESS .. initially .. without even doing anything .. just in the initial data ..

    And the solution to the problem seems to look good .. reactors, aviation, icebreakers ..

    But here's an amazing ANSWER !!
    Far from being rosy .. negative even !!

    But we, for some reason, should be happy with what was in the problem GIVEN .. and how the solution went ..

    Stop substituting concepts already ..
  • Cosm22
    Cosm22 26 November 2020 23: 52
    +20
    1. One can, of course, be proud of the Generation III + reactor.
    If you do not look around. At least in your own apartment. And then they learned how to make reactors, and Russia buys the simplest household appliances from the damned bourgeoisie. The Russian Federation has never learned how to make vacuum cleaners, hair dryers, washing machines and dishwashers, refrigerators, boilers, hobs, hoods, TVs, smartphones, tablets, computers ... Not to mention a decent car. The nameplate "Made in the Russian Federation" means, as a rule, a screwdriver assembly of the unit on the territory of Russia from foreign components.
    By the way, VVER-1200 belongs to the same class as EPR, ESBWR BWR / 4 II, System-80, Westinghouse AP1000. Moreover, in the USA, Great Britain, France, work is already underway along with Russia on projects of the 4th generation reactors.
    2. Russia has the world's largest icebreaker fleet only because it needs it. But why do other countries need it? Which do not have such a long northern border?
    3. One of the two best military aircraft in the world - that's great. What about civil? Which one brings money to the budget, and does not suck out of it constantly and robustly, like a military man?
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 27 November 2020 10: 34
    +11
    One of three Generation III + reactors in the world and the only one that is actually working


    What is the success here ?? Maybe from this reactor our electricity has fallen in price ?? Oh, no .. she, on the contrary, has risen in price ..

    2. The world's largest icebreaker fleet
    3. One of the two best military aviation in the world


    What does it give ?? Well, the cost of all this is a kind of "success" ..
    Well, yes, it's not even about the costs .. But what is the end result? It's just all this fuss for what purpose ?? There are some steps .. that should improve people's lives .. and lead them to success ..

    All that you have listed is just STEPS .. some kind of movement .. Only it does not lead to success !! A senseless movement for the people !!
    For what is the point for a man in a reactor or better aviation, if a HUMAN lives better in another country without a reactor and aviation ..
  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 28 November 2020 02: 09
    +6
    1 what difference does it make to me - the best reactor, or not the best. I personally am more worried about why electricity tariffs are increasing 2 times a year. logically, if there are more reactors and they are better, then the cost should also fall.
    2 fleet is good. icebreaker - even more so. only now our north was depopulated. by the standards of the USSR, there is now a desert.
    3 I honestly don't know about the best military aviation in the world. I sincerely want to believe it. but with the civil how? especially with a small motor?
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 29 November 2020 12: 03
      0
      and there is no small-scale aircraft at all, as well as the development of small aircraft (GA), from 2015 they destroyed until the end ... everything was blown away!
  • smart ass
    smart ass 26 November 2020 21: 22
    +22
    I will list breakthroughs, garbage taxes, pension reform, a dollar under 80 rubles !!!
  • Clear
    Clear 27 November 2020 21: 08
    -3
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Arkon
    Because I have never seen this character rejoice at the success of my country.

    Name your successes to begin with!
    Quote: Arkon
    And the search for the negative is exactly what is given in the quote and what "should not be written about."

    So write about the successes in the fight against Covid, Putin defeated him back in June or in the development of the economy. Where are 20 million jobs, where are the breakthroughs?

    Jumping from cold to sour again. And do not push the doctor out of yourself if you do not know the circumstances, situation and measures to combat the pandemic.
    Would go to the red zone, "doctor" and, not here for days to gain pluses ...
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 26 November 2020 23: 05
    +16
    Quote: Arkon
    I have never seen this character rejoice at the successes of my country,

    Quote: Dangerous
    The country is not only yours))

    This is also my country. Please tell me the distinct successes of this country. Successes for us ordinary people. There is simply nothing to be happy about. If you have a different opinion, please justify it.
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  • Stas157
    Stas157 27 November 2020 08: 35
    +13
    Quote: Arkon
    I have never seen this character rejoice successes my country

    The article is just about "successes", so rejoice!

    Prospects are not even visible! Neither in the economy, nor in education, nor in medicine .. What is the future for such a country?

    Only the insane can rejoice at this, brought up by the exam and distance. This is exactly what is described in the article!
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 27 November 2020 10: 21
    +10
    rejoiced at the success of my country

    So they are not .. From the word at all !!
    One step forward - two steps back ..
    Well, except that someone is warmer in their souls from all kinds of S-500, "victories" in Syria, etc.
    But these "successes" in no way improve the lives of people .. This is only suitable for a beautiful cover .. And inside the book there is one continuous divorce and robbery of the population !!
    1. Taga
      Taga 29 November 2020 10: 33
      0
      Don't generalize! They improve, and how! New faces become figures on the Forbes list, old ones, penny to penny, increase the existing fortune!
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 27 November 2020 12: 29
    +2
    Quote: Arkon
    Because I have never seen this character rejoice at the success of my country, and

    And the fact that successes look scanty against the background of failures does not jar you? The fact that all the innovations declared by the authorities as a blessing for the population only worsen the lives of ordinary people, you also do not notice? Then you are either blind or shameless.
  • private person
    private person 28 November 2020 08: 05
    0
    Because I have never seen this character rejoice at the success of my country.

    At least 3 examples that you can really be proud of? Only here about our Crimea is not necessary.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 26 November 2020 18: 31
    -27%
    Your school is physically and morally outdated, judging by its appearance back in the 80s - new schools are being built.
    1. Alf
      Alf 26 November 2020 18: 38
      +17
      Quote: Vadim237
      building new schools.

      And who will teach them? And why?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 November 2020 19: 23
        -16%
        Everything that was previously taught and even more.
        1. Alf
          Alf 26 November 2020 19: 25
          +10
          Quote: Vadim237
          Everything that was previously taught and even more.

          This is already "noticeable".
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 26 November 2020 22: 56
            -12%
            And where is this "noticeable" and the main thing in what?
        2. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 28 November 2020 02: 54
          +3
          ugums. my wife, a teacher of the highest qualification (Russian - literature) sighs sadly, reading you.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 26 November 2020 20: 56
        +46
        Quote: Alf
        And who will teach them? And why?

        Bow and read, blame the Polovtsians and the Pechenegs for all the troubles, then Nikolai2, then, as usual, the Fritzes and finally the Communists
        1. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 28 November 2020 02: 56
          +3
          so yes, but the communists must be blamed starting with the Polovtsians)))
          1. Taga
            Taga 29 November 2020 10: 39
            0
            From primitive communal communism!
        2. Taga
          Taga 29 November 2020 10: 36
          0
          Don't you dare! To commemorate the passion-bearer in sue! wink
  • Clear
    Clear 26 November 2020 20: 37
    -19%
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: El Dorado
    You, the editor, just to throw on the fan.
    Svarog, stink elsewhere

    Then I will write to you and show you my school now, where I graduated from the seven-year school ... Here she is a former beauty, built at the beginning of the reign of Alexander III, which gave the country literate people for 100 years, having survived the Nazi invasion, but did not survive in the era of the Unified State Exam (Church on the left ). Zagusinye village, Dukhovshchinsky district, Smolensk region

    Zagusinye village, then the place is really dead. Moreover, it does not give off the usual melancholy, but some kind of horror. Frost on the skin ... Even in broad daylight, it seems as if twilight is deepening here, the heartbreaking creak of shutters and doors of abandoned houses is heard everywhere, in the abandoned school building there is a deadly cold, a huge inscription “LEAVE!” Flaunts on the walls ... And ... ah-ah-ah ... somewhere suddenly there was a crying baby ... No, after all, there is one residential building there. An unreal relief!
    People !!! What have we lost.

    Yes, Vlad the villages "died", but not the people.
    People have moved, not from a good life, of course. Along the "chain: from villages to regional centers, from regional centers to regional centers, from regional centers to megalopolises ...
    That's where the former villagers are now.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 26 November 2020 23: 36
      +14
      Quote: Clear
      That's where the former villagers are now.

      You are wrong, more and more in rented apartments.
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 27 November 2020 09: 14
      +7
      Quote: Clear
      That's where the former villagers are now

      The village idyll looks more interesting, and most importantly more environmentally friendly, than the stuffy concrete ghettos.
      1. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 28 November 2020 02: 57
        0
        but the people are breaking into the ghetto. it's easier to get money there. mind you - get, not earn.
  • Overlock
    Overlock 26 November 2020 20: 53
    +32
    [/ Quote]
    Quote: tihonmarine
    [quote = El Dorado] You, the editor, just throw it at the fan.
    Svarog, stink elsewhere

    Then I will write to you and show you my school now, where I graduated from the seven-year school ... Here she is a former beauty, built at the beginning of the reign of Alexander III, which gave the country literate people for 100 years, having survived the Nazi invasion, but did not survive in the era of the Unified State Exam (Church on the left ). Zagusinye village, Dukhovshchinsky district, Smolensk region

    Zagusinye village, then the place is really dead. Moreover, it does not give off the usual melancholy, but some kind of horror. Frost on the skin ... Even in broad daylight, it seems as if twilight is deepening here, the heartbreaking creak of shutters and doors of abandoned houses is heard everywhere, in the abandoned school building there is a deadly cold, a huge inscription “LEAVE!” Flaunts on the walls ... And ... ah-ah-ah ... somewhere suddenly there was a crying baby ... No, after all, there is one residential building there. An unreal relief!
    People !!! What have we lost.

    Throwing beads is unproductive. A clever one will understand, unlike ...
  • Hagen
    Hagen 26 November 2020 21: 47
    -12%
    Quote: tihonmarine
    100 years gave the country literate people, having survived the Nazi invasion, but did not survive in the era of the Unified State Exam

    And what did you leave from there? So you abandoned your small homeland, others followed you, and it decayed. How do you connect the USE exam with the destruction of the school building? In 2007, the village you mentioned had 37 inhabitants. And these ruins are more than a dozen years old ... No need to beat out tears here. The local authorities with the local population did not create normal living conditions, and this is the result.
  • Pereira
    Pereira 27 November 2020 15: 29
    +3
    People !!! What have we lost.

    First they lost Mind, then Honor.
    Now we are losing Conscience.
  • Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 27 November 2020 16: 28
    -11%
    well, pay for the repair of the school .. 10 million, then pay every year for 2-3 million rubles for 1 child for heating, then hire a few more teachers .. and you will have "happiness" in the form of the cost of education in 5 million rubles for 1 child a year .. just a dream .. only at my own expense
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 27 November 2020 21: 13
      +9
      Quote: Boris Chernikov
      well, pay for the repair of the school .. 10 million, then pay every year for 2-3 million rubles for 1 child for heating, then hire a few more teachers .. and you will have "happiness" in the form of the cost of education in 5 million rubles for 1 child a year .. just a dream .. only at my own expense

      Not convinced. Why did the "totalitarian commies" have enough money for schools, teachers, heating, electricity, gyms and sports equipment, all sorts of "skillful hands" circles and talent classes, with the construction of pioneer camps with free vouchers for full support, and these "NateVamSvAbodu" no shit?
  • paul3390
    paul3390 26 November 2020 16: 33
    +37
    A classic neo-feudal society is being built in the Russian Federation. Where cattle - even literacy and that is contraindicated .. In general - everything that happens somehow surprisingly clearly coincides with the plans of Aloizievich about the occupied territory of the USSR and the people living there .. I wonder - why so?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 26 November 2020 16: 41
      +9
      Quote: paul3390
      I wonder why so?

      Almost everywhere SO! Capitalism however, in all its glory ....
      However, this is not for complacency, this is a statement of the obvious ... but what, probably, awaits us ??? It's sad even to imagine.
      And as always, the question is .... What to do?
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 26 November 2020 16: 44
        +26
        When asked what to do? the answer was given long ago by bearded classics and our great-grandfathers. To build socialism as the only system sharpened precisely for the improvement of man as such ..
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 26 November 2020 16: 46
          +3
          No question where to start? Or from whom?
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 26 November 2020 16: 53
            +13
            With what the Bolsheviks started with. Creation of a true Communist Party and propaganda of their views among the people. Communist parties are now full except for the Communist Party, choose to taste, join, look for like-minded people, work. Everything is the same as 100 years ago - almost nothing has changed. Besides the main thing - you and I already know that socialism and Soviet power are possible ..
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 26 November 2020 17: 26
              +12
              Quote: paul3390
              Besides the main thing - you and I already know that socialism and Soviet power are possible.

              But in this already many will have to CONVINCE!
              Moreover, they will fight against this not as with the "fifth column", but already AS AN ADULT! Because the power of the Soviets, the power of the working people, the current ruling class is a true, eternal enemy !!!
              In the methods they will not be limited, they too have experience .... they can borrow from their own, from behind the hill! They have a lot more opportunities and understanding where their real, principled enemy is ... so sho those almost "greenhouse" conditions that were at the beginning of the last century, NO, WILL NOT BE !!!
              Are you ready for a real fight ???
              Something like this ... maybe even more, worse, but certainly not easier!
              1. paul3390
                paul3390 26 November 2020 17: 41
                +21
                Ready, not ready - you might think we have a choice ... Either we return Soviet power, or the damn bourgeoisie will ruin us all ..
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 26 November 2020 17: 55
                  +8
                  And you check, count how many of our citizens are ready to return back the Soviet power, and then ... you yourself will understand that in the form it was, not everyone wants to return it!
                  We need something new, albeit with the signs of the former, but not with all !!!
                  It is necessary to create, to designate exactly what and where we are going, otherwise you don't count on fellow travelers, very many!
                  1. paul3390
                    paul3390 26 November 2020 18: 00
                    +15
                    What was she like? Different .. Stalin's for example and Gorbachev's .. And what not everyone wants - so obviously the case, this is not a bill of 100 dollars. Naturally, there will be opponents, and alas, most likely another iteration of the civil war. The bourgeoisie will just give their goods away. But here alas - either they are us, or we are theirs. The choice is ours ..
                    Unfortunately - social formations always replace each other only with a lot of blood. Until - in another way, humanity has not learned ...
                  2. rocket757
                    rocket757 26 November 2020 18: 58
                    +2
                    Quote: paul3390
                    The choice is ours ..

                    This is so, approximately .... if there is no understanding of where we are going or where we are being led, everything turns out approximately and approximately.
                    You never know those revolutions and merits around and everyone was about somewhere there .... as a result, neither there nor syuda, and then in fact, in general, nowhere.
                    In general, to create a clear goal, to prove to the masses that this is their goal, or at least for them, and .... further according to the plan, which also needs to be prepared more carefully.
                    I will say the obvious, none of this is NET, we cannot see those who are able to organize all this.
                    Let it be for now.
          2. kalibr
            kalibr 26 November 2020 20: 15
            0
            Quote: paul3390
            Everything is the same as 100 years ago - almost nothing has changed.

            Except for having unhappy workers. Where will you find them, those who will go to the barricades ... no one knows why? You tell them: for the USSR! And the bourgeois agitator will say to them: do you want the USSR? Go buy food for the last time! And half, but what is there half - will immediately take off!
        2. t-12
          t-12 26 November 2020 17: 02
          +13
          Well, where does socialism begin? From small circles of the intelligentsia, from walking to the people, from fundamental theory. Further, the circles are united into a revolutionary party.

          It is another matter that the current Russian intelligentsia has abandoned all subjectivity, exchanged it for money, and began to engage in commercially more profitable entertainment (and more and more primitive).
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 November 2020 17: 31
            +2
            Quote: t-12
            Well, where does socialism begin?

            Socialism, maybe it will be later ... but at first, always, a seizure of power by a group of like-minded people is carried out with the support of a significant, overwhelming, mass of the population .... this is from a TEXTBOOK and in another way, belief, does not happen !!!
            And now the questions .... A LOT OF QUESTIONS !!! Where do you want to find answers to them?
            1. t-12
              t-12 26 November 2020 18: 15
              +12
              but first, there is always a seizure of power
              "Seizure of power" is not "first," but "later." Dozens of years of boring propaganda and organizational work pass before the capture. People get used to each other, prove that they are really like-minded people (not secret police provocateurs and not city madmen).

              (For the information of Comrade Major: the commentary is written purely in theory)
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 26 November 2020 19: 05
                0
                Whoever needs it, he can read the textbook .... i.e. you don't have to describe all the "technology".
                1. Aag
                  Aag 27 November 2020 11: 34
                  +3
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Whoever needs it, he can read the textbook .... i.e. you don't have to describe all the "technology".

                  Unfortunately, nowadays it takes a long time to convince many people to take a textbook into their hands.
                2. rocket757
                  rocket757 27 November 2020 11: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: AAG
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Whoever needs it, he can read the textbook .... i.e. you don't have to describe all the "technology".

                  Unfortunately, nowadays it takes a long time to convince many people to take a textbook into their hands.

                  You can't understand this!
                  Where do you get knowledge then .... although many believe it will do.
                  It seems they are not children, but unfortunately they have no desire to grow up.
                  It seems like life should make you start thinking and learning, essno! But, it is not very noticeable.
                3. Aag
                  Aag 27 November 2020 11: 53
                  +1
                  So they have no need for knowledge. Some ... But their number is growing.
                4. rocket757
                  rocket757 27 November 2020 13: 24
                  +1
                  So it is an understandable goal of those who hold power, to turn the desires and goals of a person towards one, consumption.
                  They provide such a vital need, necessity, as obtaining knowledge only to those who need it !!!
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 26 November 2020 18: 24
    +9
    Quote: rocket757
    No question where to start? Or from whom?

    In the destruction of education, no one has done as much as the Ministry of Education did.
    1. Alf
      Alf 26 November 2020 18: 41
      +11
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Quote: rocket757
      No question where to start? Or from whom?

      In the destruction of education, no one has done as much as the Ministry of Education did.

      And who set the course for this ministry?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 November 2020 19: 07
        +7
        Who, who ..... OWNER.
        1. Alf
          Alf 26 November 2020 19: 10
          +7
          Quote: rocket757
          Who, who ..... OWNER.

          He has nothing to do with, he simply does not know .... Now Boris55 will come running and quickly explain to all the dunno that He cannot do anything, just takes a place on the throne.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 November 2020 19: 15
            +6
            Ha, the real owner, that's for sure, not some one public face.
            There is a conglomerate, a group, a club, rich and powerful individuals who are the ruling class, i.e. true master under capitalism ..... classic of the genre.
          2. Alf
            Alf 26 November 2020 19: 17
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            Ha, the real owner, that's for sure, not some one public face.
            There is a conglomerate, a group, a club, rich and powerful individuals who are the ruling class, i.e. true master under capitalism ..... classic of the genre.

            And who can argue ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 26 November 2020 19: 06
    +5
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    In the destruction of education, no one did as much as the Ministry of Education did

    The Ministry of Education is simply a tool, an executor, fulfilling the order of the ruling class. It was, is, will always be.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 13
      +7
      Quote: rocket757
      The Ministry of Education is simply a tool, an executor, fulfilling the order of the ruling class. It was, is, will always be.

      In Ukraine. There has always been a battle between Bandera and normal people for the post of Minister of Education. They almost always achieved this and we all see the result. This means that they worked for the future.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 November 2020 20: 36
        +4
        So we are working for OWN perspective ... they stupidly hope that they will do it for someone else.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 43
          +7
          Quote: rocket757
          This is how we work for OWN perspective.

          So the ending is expected then
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 26 November 2020 20: 51
          0
          The ending will be the one we will come to ourselves .... we are still on the way, we ourselves must realize where we were sent and ...... in general, think carefully about whether we were sent there.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 26 November 2020 21: 23
    +2
    Quote: rocket757
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    In the destruction of education, no one did as much as the Ministry of Education did

    The Ministry of Education is simply a tool, an executor, fulfilling the order of the ruling class. It was, is, will always be.

    Who can argue. However, in fact, that is, according to the verdict, the executioner, and not the judge, cuts the head off.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 November 2020 09: 11
      +1
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      However, in fact, that is, according to the verdict, the executioner cuts off the head, not the judge.

      This is already ... the costs of development, the complication of society, state institutions! Separation of responsibility !!!
      Self-justification, to some extent!
      They went far from the early Middle Ages when the one who passed the sentence had to carry it out !!!! he took responsibility inside and out.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 11
    +5
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Ministry of Education.

    Where did it come from personally? Who appointed them?
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 27 November 2020 12: 03
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Ministry of Education.

      Where did it come from personally? Who appointed them?

      The answer is "system", will you be satisfied? The education system was broken back in 1991, when the USSR collapsed, where education was aimed at the comprehensive education of the individual, collectivism and the development of a creator. The current system has set the goal of educating the consumer as the main task. Changing Putin to Tropinkin, or Shosseikin, will not change anything at all. it is not individuals who need to be changed, but the entire system.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 08
    +8
    Quote: rocket757
    Or from whom?

    The fish rots from the head, but they always clean it from the tail. So this rule must be changed
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 26 November 2020 20: 39
      +3
      Actually, if the head is rotten .... whoever shakes off, "not edible." It will go to fertilizer, all the benefits are there.
    2. karima
      karima 27 November 2020 10: 16
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      The fish rots from the head
      Yes, that's what they say, but is it true? And not from the belly?
  • karima
    karima 27 November 2020 10: 12
    +1
    Quote: paul3390
    To build socialism as the only system sharpened precisely for the improvement of man as such.
    Well, where did it improve it? Are they the socialist of the country, are they the most advanced, or are they in the deep "also beautiful"? Yes, at the first opportunity they took to the start.
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 26 November 2020 17: 18
    +15
    Quote: rocket757
    Capitalism however, in all its glory ....

    this is no longer capitalism according to the classics, but terry colonial imperialism ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 26 November 2020 17: 49
      +3
      Everything is correct, that's why I affirm that it is easy to change everything, it will not be in any way !!!
      Much has changed, and the TEXTBOOK of previous years, previous experience, does not give an answer to many QUESTIONS!
      We have to write, create new techniques !!!
      Yes, we need a new LIGHT idea, a goal !!! Otherwise, we will get trampling on the spot, at best, because the return to the old does not seduce everyone, and at best, they can accept old ideas with hostility .... and this, to overcome, will be even more difficult.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 26 November 2020 21: 44
        +2
        About "Dunno and Shorty"! Here's cool:
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 27 November 2020 09: 22
          0
          Can you think somewhere else?
          This is not complacency, this is a FACT statement ...
          The people are only of varying degrees of patience ... officials, of varying degrees of impudence.
          In short, nothing special is visible.
          Again, the question is - what to do?
  • Svarog
    Svarog 26 November 2020 16: 43
    +5
    The answer is obvious - capitalism. In all its glory and without masks ..
  • parusnik
    parusnik 26 November 2020 18: 34
    +10
    A classic neo-feudal society is being built in the Russian Federation
    ..As it says in the Labor Code: an employee and a slave owner ... ugh employer .. laughing
  • Hagen
    Hagen 27 November 2020 06: 01
    -7
    Quote: paul3390
    Where cattle are, even literacy is contraindicated.

    And you do not be a cattle ... Patient will be humiliated even in the presence of God.
  • antivirus
    antivirus 26 November 2020 18: 45
    +3
    what is happening in education and the consequence of this approach.

    -the same with medicine, with doctors
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 23
      +4
      Quote: antivirus
      the same with medicine, with doctors

      "You didn't want to feed your doctors, you will feed the strangers"
      This is how you can paraphrase the famous saying
  • Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb 27 November 2020 13: 34
    +3
    I believe Russia will wake up. And all this scale will not seem a little ...

    I work in education myself. Higher. Teachers are terrified of modern innovations
    .
  • srha
    srha 28 November 2020 13: 21
    +2
    Still, I think that it is necessary to add: "the learning process is very complex. It includes pedagogy, methodology and assessment of learning. This can only be provided by a living teacher", since the basis of learning is not manifested, the necessary, without which it is impossible - the organization ... Any training begins with the organization of training by the teacher: they teach to walk in formation, sit sitting, listen attentively, study on time, read aloud and by themselves (oh, this is the learning process itself), etc. Even physical education starts with this. In the distance, the organization, with the exception of the time of the lesson, is at the mercy of the student, who often does not want to hear about this organization. As an example, I can’t get one student out of bed, he is already comfortable studying, and "Oblomov" - well, he didn’t crawl even before this novel, especially his understanding.

    And the profitability of this system of bureaucracy must be emphasized - informal assessment at a distance is difficult, due to the narrowing of the communication channel to several megabytes, therefore the emphasis is on formal methods.

    Conclusion (apocalyptic or apocalyptic?). Soon, as soon as the current generation of ZOOMers enters the highest governing structures of society (30-40 years old), smart gadgets in conjunction with AI will make the presence of a student in the learning process unnecessary. Life issues not reflected in Yandex will be deemed indecent. And the presence of natural intelligence with interests other than artificial is socially dangerous, which, however, is already being experienced in China.
  • vlad106
    vlad106 29 November 2020 19: 02
    0
    That's right! Only the public education system has long been destroyed.
    People want to make (deb) illiterate. And above all the Russian people.
    Who benefits?
  • credo
    credo 26 November 2020 17: 01
    +17
    Quote: AlexGa
    “The VTsIOM data indicate that we have finally come to what we have been striving for all these 15 years, - we have brought up the country of idiots. If Russia continues to follow the same course, then in another ten years there will be no more of those who today at least occasionally pick up a book. And we will get a country that will be easier to rule, from which it will be easier to suck natural resources. But this country has no future! "

    There’s nothing to add!

    Sergei Kapitsa's "prophecies" are in fact not a prophecy at all, but one of the opinions of millions of adult citizens of Russia who, even under Yeltsin, repeatedly raised the question of the perniciousness of the transition of Russian education to the Bologna system, ostensibly for the sake of our children being consistent standards and when traveling abroad, their diplomas of education were unconditionally recognized by local officials.
    All sane citizens of the country understood perfectly well that this was bullshit and that it would not lead to anything good. And so it happened.

    Then the same question was repeatedly raised before Putin and pointed out to him that each new minister of education in the country is pursuing the same policy aimed at reducing the level of education and turning it into one of the types of services. The next current Minister of Education of the country is a vivid example of a spineless performer in the same direction of departure from Soviet education.
    By the way, since the words of Academician Kapitsa have already been quoted, I would like to say about the same spinelessness of our academic community, who gathered under the roof of the RAS, completely silent on this issue.
    In this regard, it is the parents who were educated in the USSR who constantly raise the issue, and not academicians and pundits.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 26 November 2020 19: 58
    +6
    Quote: AlexGa
    There’s nothing to add!

    But Sergeant Petrov and Zyablitsev disagree. In their opinion and the opinion of their companions, everything is fine
  • Sibguest
    Sibguest 26 November 2020 20: 19
    +10
    Alexander (other compatriots) - hello.
    A small remark to the phrase "... in ten years, there will be no those who today at least occasionally pick up a book: people began to take paper books in their hands less and less since the late 90s, when book prices skyrocketed, and the bookshelves in the stores were filled with the defects of defective writers and women writers, wretched fantasy and other rubbish.
    Over the past ten years, the steady and aggressive invasion of "numbers" into our lives has completely "buried" the desire of even people who read and read good literature to take a paper book in their hands (oh, where are you my sleepless nights with another favorite book in your hands!).
    And this is a given, which is simply absurd to refute (all the more so - to condemn and not accept) - life does not stand still. Scientific-mother-his-Technical-ReProgress will drive us into numbers. Not us, but our grandchildren.
    I, who read the first serious book at the age of 6 (believe it - it was “Spartacus”), is very hard to admit it.
    The question is: what can we oppose to this? Become "21st Century Luddites"? Or to do everything in our power that our grandchildren did not become Dunno (by the way - the author of the book - Nosov, Dunno fought staunchly against "dunno").
    Good luck to all of us in the fight for the minds of our descendants! Health to all!
  • Imobile
    Imobile 26 November 2020 20: 48
    -16%
    How many exUSSR people can speak Engish? Or know phisics or chemistry? Mabe biology or some other? You don't have to answer. In the USSR, they went to school, institute, vocational school and did not study.
    1. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd 28 November 2020 03: 10
      +1
      flashed with scales ??? well done)) where did those who gave birth to you from your mother come from? taught you?
  • mat-vey
    mat-vey 27 November 2020 14: 50
    +3
    Quote: AlexGa
    There’s nothing to add!

    You can only slightly correct - there is no such country "in" the future.
    "No state can develop without science - it will be destroyed by its neighbors. Without arts and common culture, the state loses its capacity for self-criticism, begins to encourage erroneous tendencies, every second begins to generate hypocrites and scum, develops consumerism and arrogance in citizens, and in the end it again becomes a victim of more prudent neighbors.You can persecute book people, prohibit science, destroy art, but sooner or later you have to catch your eye and gnash your teeth, but open the way for everything that is so hateful to power-hungry dullards and ignoramuses.And no matter how much these gray people despise knowledge in power, they can do nothing against historical objectivity, they can only slow down, but not stop. "
  • Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 28 November 2020 12: 18
    +3
    Plan "Ost" in action. What the fascists could not do with the Russians in 1941-45 was done by our government now.
  • zenion
    zenion 1 December 2020 15: 08
    0
    How is there nothing to add? If there is a "Field of Miracles", then necessarily a country of fools. Both of these facts are present.
  • zenion
    zenion 3 December 2020 00: 28
    0
    This is an anecdote for the reason that it is impossible to make fools out of fools. How can you make an idiot out of an idiot. You can pull out his teeth if he didn’t cut them off himself. The country in 20 years could not do a tenth of what the USSR did in a decade. But the galoshes were still good, Russia still wears them.
  • smart ass
    smart ass 26 November 2020 16: 08
    +2
    I don't see any problems. The main thing for the state is to grow the consumer.
    1. Sergey Matveev
      Sergey Matveev 26 November 2020 16: 27
      +30
      A nation consisting of consumers is incapable of creation ...
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 26 November 2020 16: 31
        +3
        This is understandable, but who needs your creation? The main thing is to eat more money sweeter. The citadel of creation of the USSR collapsed. Now we post pictures of priests in instu)))
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 26 November 2020 17: 26
          -10%
          Really, you post asses on instu ?!)))
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 November 2020 16: 58
      -8
      this is not important to the state, it is important to those who produce bullshit
      1. Alf
        Alf 26 November 2020 18: 43
        +6
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        this is not important to the state, it is important to those who produce bullshit

        And who is the state?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 26 November 2020 20: 23
          +3
          Quote: Alf
          And who is the state?

          It is he!
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 November 2020 20: 24
          +1
          by the state, I mean the state and not a bunch of temporary workers
          1. Alf
            Alf 26 November 2020 20: 47
            +6
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            by the state, I mean the state and not a bunch of temporary workers

            If we proceed from this truth, then we do not have a state, but there is a handful of temporary workers who have penetrated, like a cancerous tumor, into the body.
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 26 November 2020 21: 01
            +34
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            by the state, I mean the state and not a bunch of temporary workers

            Judging by the fingers clutching convulsively, they consider themselves eternal. As for Volodin: no Putin, no Russia. They are ready to bury the country
            1. Alf
              Alf 26 November 2020 21: 50
              +1
              Quote: Overlock
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              by the state, I mean the state and not a bunch of temporary workers

              Judging by the fingers clutching convulsively, they consider themselves eternal. As for Volodin: no Putin, no Russia. They are ready to bury the country

              And they have no choice. Here the power is already shaking, and there they were made clear that all their billions are worthless and can be squeezed out at the moment that "your place is in the bag," so they live like on the last day.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 November 2020 19: 02
      -14%
      In order to consume something, you need to create a product from the beginning - and there was always consumption, only in the USSR its deficit limited, and the meager nomenclature that there was just the reverse side of the planned economy where your ideas and inventions are not realistic to implement individually, because you do not have an individual investor who is interested in your development and its implementation in production, just as there is no way to find the necessary equipment, materials, tools, etc. In such a system, there is only one investor - the state, but it works on the scale of planned production, and you, with your developments and inventions, no one can call you - that's why the consumer West has nothing in civilian life and in everything else, starting from a huge range of tools , before the systems of space exploration in the civilian sector - because there could be swung: loans, investors, open markets, competition, hi-tech there, the man of creation was not clamped by the framework of planning and closedness, despite the fact that in the West education was worse than in the USSR, that's why their iPhones went beyond the garage into life, but ours did not.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 26 November 2020 16: 14
    -9
    In Russia, compulsory digitalization of schools is spelled out in the Education 2030 project.
    I beg your pardon, who exactly is this project presented in Russia?
    I found this opinion on this matter:
    all sources that were used to prepare the Education 2030 project are foreign. This is not surprising.

    It turns out that this education reform program was prepared by the international Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). The full title of this project is “The Future of Education and Skills: Education 2030”.
    Russian SEOs simply translated this study into Russian and slightly adapted it to the specifics of our country. It is assumed that education in Russia should be built according to a single international standard, a model generally binding for all countries, which was developed by OECD specialists.

    Russia is NOT a member of this organization. That is, in fact, this project is a dummy.
    PS In recent years, more than a hundred new, modern schools have been built in Russia every year. If you plan to go on distance, then what's the point in building new schools?
    1. savage1976
      savage1976 26 November 2020 16: 21
      -21%
      Do you think anyone cares about it? The main thing is to throw more on the fan.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 November 2020 16: 51
      +4
      Quote: Lesovik
      PS In recent years, more than a hundred new, modern schools have been built in Russia every year.

      For tens of millions of children, 100 schools ??? I understand 1000.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 November 2020 19: 04
        -1
        Some of these schools have between 500 and 3000 children.
      2. Local from the Volga
        Local from the Volga 26 November 2020 23: 43
        -4
        Annually! and much more, idiot!
      3. Woodman
        Woodman 27 November 2020 07: 43
        +4
        Quote: tihonmarine
        For tens of millions of children, 100 schools ??? I understand 1000.

        This is how the old schools work too. Or do we have a lack of school places for students somewhere?
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 November 2020 17: 03
      +4
      Quote: Lesovik
      Russia is NOT a member of this organization. That is, in fact, this project is a dummy.
      PS In recent years, more than a hundred new, modern schools have been built in Russia every year. If you plan to go on distance, then what's the point in building new schools?

      You can build a milen, but what's the point if the system does not give knowledge, you communicate with young animals and your hair stands on end, I want to quote Zadornov
      1. 210ox
        210ox 26 November 2020 17: 39
        +18
        Yes, the system. Where teachers are afraid to say a word to young scumbags. Where there is no patriotic education and training. Where the same teachers are turned into lecturers and crushed by a mass of bureaucratic papers and reports. The question is what to do? This is a matter of POWER. And up there it seems to be profitable. And the majority at the bottom didn't care about it. It does not reach people in any way, neither through the stomach, nor through the brains, it will be even worse and the country has no future.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 26 November 2020 18: 06
          +5
          What does it mean there is no patriotic education ?? The son goes to the 5th grade and learns songs about victory or the war years for each music lesson. Another thing is that after school children can forget all patriotism and "correctness" and go smacking nonsense. But this is more a matter of parenting children.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 26 November 2020 18: 21
            +4
            songs are one small part of patriotic upbringing .. but, at least something .. in my childhood I imagined myself as a partisan, or as a sailor, at war with the enemies of the Motherland, and now who do children represent themselves? about this ..
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 26 November 2020 18: 57
              +6
              And I in the role of Robinson represented or in the role of one of the heroes "the last of the Magikan". But now the time is different, children are mostly absorbed in computer games, YouTube channels, and so on. There is no escape from this, it must be accepted and the huge flow of information from the Internet to be directed in the right direction. Explain yourself what is worth watching and what is not. From personal experience - showed the consequences of drug use (ulcers, amputations, etc.), I hope it was deposited in my head
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 26 November 2020 23: 06
                +3
                In fact, you are right .. before the state played a huge role (kindergarten, school, films, etc.) .. and in today's realities there is a sea of ​​information .. of course you are right, this is more a matter of parents .. But .. at the same time it is not cancels my previous comment that, in general, the school and society no longer educate and close as before hi
                1. Aag
                  Aag 27 November 2020 15: 42
                  +2
                  "... of course you are right, this is more a matter of parents .."
                  I agree with this. Moreover, it has always been so, to a greater or lesser extent. Except, perhaps, during the times of Makarenko ...
                  Strains something else. Here, with us, now, everything goes to: study, heal, build up, defend yourself, find a job, yourself. Even self-bury yourself! We, the ruling, only wake up to cut your hair. pancakes were wiping up the past, "- returned to the previous, missed, stage of development.
                  ... And there is no longer it, -capitalism! Apparently, therefore, we do not understand what is with the signs of neocolonialism, feudalism, monarchy, sometimes covered with slogans from socialism, and, in despair, even communism.
                  The elite even fears to give a definition of the socio-economic formation of the established (erected (?)) State. Not to mention the goals and objectives. "Breakthroughs", and so on, at best, are tactics, not a strategy. For what? ?!
                  Older people sometimes no longer enter into discussions with a generation that does not know that it is possible to be happy without jeans. Younger people proceed from rationalism: how will we feed such a horde of pensioners? (There are even adherents of pension reform).
                  "Not for the sake of self-interest, but for the benefit for" -father Fedor, "12 chairs." protected by those very "pennies". ... And a lot has been poured abroad (to the enemies), already in modern times. And if the level of education allows (for me, for example, not to the full extent), you can make sure that selling is not the same as "taking out", "shipping" .. (unfortunately, such terms are more and more in use, - we overload, resell, rather than invent, design, produce). For example, hydroelectric power station. Here they cited an example of a nuclear power plant. Not special. But if there is, good! .. ..It's bad that often - on credit. And there are no tools for withdrawing unpaid loans.
                  I'm coming back ... On Wiki, in other sources, there was enough information (now, apparently, they thought better of it, cleaned up) about the ownership of the Angara basin hydroelectric power station, and further downstream of the Yenisei to foreign companies. Well, remember the sanctions against Deripasko! YOURSELF asked to help BUSINESS! Yes, even Solovyov was indignant on this topic: how so, the people were obliged to help the oligarchs ...
                  Sorry, distracted ....
                  Returning to the topic of the article, your comment ...
                  .... Even if it is absolutely stupid: in order to cut, in normal volumes, of decent quality, you need to take proper care of the "livestock". Agree, and this is not observed.
                  Until recently, everything was decent on the neighboring "farms" in terms of feeding. And then there was a fever - on the distant "ranch." submit).
                  Sorry, once again, Counselor, but these are the thoughts that the parents themselves should ...
                  In short: Yes, they should! But the state must create, if not the conditions, then at least the prerequisites (equally for all citizens). hi
                  All SEASONS, from those involved, family, -with HOLIDAY! ;;
          2. 210ox
            210ox 26 November 2020 18: 22
            +4
            He will sing songs in music lessons until grade 11? Where is the CWP, lessons of courage? And so you are right, this is more a matter of parenting
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 26 November 2020 18: 51
              +5
              A lesson in courage? I just had it. On technology (former labor), they also work with files and jigsaws. Well, I don't see the difference between now and 30 years ago. Remote control yes, harm. But it is unlikely that it will last long.
          3. kalibr
            kalibr 26 November 2020 20: 07
            +5
            The school where my granddaughter studied regularly hosted a patriotic song contest, veterans regularly performed (not interesting), assembled and disassembled a Kalashnikov assault rifle at speed (!), Arranged a day of the world's peoples' cuisine ... just had time to turn ... And also drawings for May 9...
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 26 November 2020 20: 28
              +2
              organized the day of the cuisine of the peoples of the world ...

              If everything else (songs, veterans, AKM) looks like a patriotic upbringing, then it certainly does not pull.
              1. kalibr
                kalibr 26 November 2020 20: 42
                +4
                Sergei! You need to explain everything. Patriotic education can be done out of everything. At this event, it was agreed that the emphasis should be on Russian folk cuisine and the cuisine of the peoples of Russia! That she is the most original and best!
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 26 November 2020 20: 49
                  +2
                  At this event, it was agreed that the emphasis should be on Russian folk cuisine and the cuisine of the peoples of Russia! That she is the most original and best!

                  Vyacheslav, don't you think that this is the so-called "leavened patriotism"?
                  1. kalibr
                    kalibr 26 November 2020 20: 52
                    +2
                    For me, everything that was there is "leavened patriotism." But they say that there is no school at all!
                    1. Aviator_
                      Aviator_ 26 November 2020 21: 02
                      +1
                      Well, why is everything. The ability to disassemble and assemble a machine gun is by no means a useless exercise. My friends and I regularly go out into the countryside to shoot skeet shoots, one of my friends bought a smooth-bore Saiga (we usually use an Izhevsk vertical gun), so the young seller could not collect weapons at all, this dunce had to show how to do it. The mechanics there are all from Kalash, we were taught this at school, but he was not.
          4. Overlock
            Overlock 26 November 2020 21: 03
            +33
            Quote: Dangerous
            What does it mean there is no patriotic education ?? The son goes to the 5th grade and learns songs about victory or the war years for each music lesson.

            So then where does the "KolyasUrengoy" come from?
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 27 November 2020 08: 16
              +2
              From the same place where the october / pioneers / Komsomol members Gorbychev, Yeltsin, Chubais, Gaidar, etc. and so on. Something did not help much the patriotic education of the Soviet school (I have nothing against it, but since you asked about Kolya, I also had to give examples) in preserving the Union.
  • Suslin
    Suslin 26 November 2020 16: 15
    +5
    The author, of course, listens to the colors, but basically he is right. From the citizens of Russia, consumers are brought up, and of a very low quality, who do not care what to consume, if only more and tastier. Very sad.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 26 November 2020 16: 42
      +1
      The ideal consumer was clearly described by the Strugatskys in the form of a cadaver ..
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 November 2020 16: 49
      +9
      Quote: Suslin
      The author certainly listens to colors

      If you have no children, then the author does not exaggerate, and those who have children know what is going on in reality.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 26 November 2020 18: 12
        +7
        So what's going on? For example, mine studies up to 2 - 3, then a section (every other day). The lessons are set for 2,5 - 3 hours (together with oral). And we were taught the same way, and our parents worked, we only came home at 6 when we were tired. The task of the teacher is to give knowledge to the child in his subject. How mathematics and biology relate to patriotism or education is not entirely clear to me. Parents for what? They should primarily guide and set an example for the child, not the teacher.
        1. Skay
          Skay 26 November 2020 22: 46
          +1
          The task of the teacher is to give knowledge to the child in his subject.

          You were explained in the article that not everyone will have teachers.
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 27 November 2020 08: 17
            -3
            Do you think that "there" absolutely fools are sitting and are ready to leave thousands of teachers without work? I sincerely believe that the distance will last a maximum of six months
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 26 November 2020 16: 15
    +2
    It is necessary to cheat the elite - to say that there will be 300 million Russians - it will be even more profitable, and there already ...
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 26 November 2020 16: 15
    +2
    This is all fine and correct. Awareness of the problem is the first step towards solving it.
    But only the first one. The author did not go further than this. After all, the clearest and most obvious question is what to do with all this now? How to change the situation?
    1. Dwellernet
      Dwellernet 26 November 2020 16: 31
      +8
      The first awareness of this problem came with the introduction of the USE. How many years can you be aware of? A few more years and this problem will not bother anyone at all. Due to the stupidity of the bulk of the population.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 26 November 2020 16: 46
        +1
        Quote: DwellerNet
        The first awareness of this problem came with the introduction of the USE. How many years can you be aware of?

        Then the question, "Do they want to be aware of this problem ???"
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 26 November 2020 16: 51
          -1
          Well, you are funny) but at least admit that you will change?
        2. Dwellernet
          Dwellernet 26 November 2020 16: 52
          +10
          Who is aware? Officials? Deputies? Oligarchs? They are the ones who tailor our education to their needs. And education, first of all, is exactly what we need, but we will not give anything, only tryndim on the Internet. But soon we will not need it, due to the dullness of the next generations. As they say, those who remember will die out, and the rest will be fine.
          1. smart ass
            smart ass 26 November 2020 18: 10
            +8
            Soon they will cut off the Internet for you like in China and will not potryrdit.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 November 2020 19: 08
        -4
        You are not talking about the total mass of the population - you speak for yourself, there are as many fools as there are smart, neither the first nor the second will ever run out.
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    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 November 2020 17: 03
      +6
      and specifically can you say what do you disagree with the author or only teasers are able to post?
    2. Dangerous
      Dangerous 26 November 2020 18: 15
      +4
      Eldorado, dear, write in essence what is wrong and how, enter into a polemic. Otherwise, it seems that you are just trolling.
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 26 November 2020 18: 44
        -7
        1) Remote control is not everywhere. In my city, not a single school is remote. All classes are full-time.
        2) At universities, online classes are at a high level. A friend at the university has full pairs.
        3) For three months at a distance, schoolchildren, well, could not get stupid.
        4) The state needs smart people who will extract oil, gas, gold, diamonds, etc. to our oligarchs and the government, who will develop weapons and serve as officers in the armed forces in order to protect all the same oligarchs and the government.
        5) I do not see any deterioration in the quality of education.
        6) Yes, old teachers are leaving, there is a huge shortage of teachers in the regions, but in recent years, young teachers have begun to come to schools.
        7) I agree that it is necessary to return a number of elements from the Soviet education system.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 26 November 2020 19: 10
          +5
          1) in my city they went to the distance until grades 9-11
          2) I will not say anything, I have no information
          3) yes, with this the author got excited
          4) from whom to protect our oligarchs, if even without war everything goes and is sold to the west, and the overwhelming majority of the largest industries / firms / holdings, etc. have a share of foreign capital? In general, this point can be discussed and argued until blue in the face. As they say, our elite is no longer ours. And our army is being renewed in a completely different way than we were promised in 2010-2011.
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  • srelock
    srelock 26 November 2020 16: 17
    +1
    ... World TNCs and TNBs, financial capital are building a new version of the slave-owning civilization - the "digital babylon". In the black are the officials and the oligarchic capital, who have brought the great power to the handle. For years they have been selling the wealth of Russia to the West and East, eating up the legacy of Soviet civilization. Fools and slaves cannot "ask" them. True, such a Russia and people have no future ...
    Yes, autumn has been long this year laughing
    1. Eldorado
      Eldorado 26 November 2020 16: 32
      -11%
      No, this year the spring exacerbation just hasn't ended yet lol
    2. Masha
      Masha 26 November 2020 16: 34
      -9
      Yes, autumn this year was a long laughing

      rather winter ....... winkand everything will pass ...
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 26 November 2020 18: 20
        +3
        and everything will pass ...

        And it will sweep with white snow ...
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 November 2020 16: 45
      +7
      Quote: srelock
      Yes, autumn has been long this year

      The long autumn that began in December 1991 and continues to this day.
      1. Clear
        Clear 26 November 2020 21: 10
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: srelock
        Yes, autumn has been long this year

        The long autumn that began in December 1991 and continues to this day.


        Yes, no autumn, we are no worse than others.

        There are, of course, countries where it is constantly hot and some carnivals

    4. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 26 November 2020 16: 50
      -4
      Some people have an autumn depression and it must be put somewhere. IN will endure everything.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 November 2020 16: 24
    +9
    Russia is being turned into a country of fools

    It remains only to distribute "balls of happiness":
    1. Masha
      Masha 26 November 2020 16: 41
      -1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      It remains only to distribute "balls of happiness":

      did not bend under the weight ...
  • Galleon
    Galleon 26 November 2020 16: 29
    +11
    The last Soviet cadres are leaving, promising young people are moving to other areas (mainly commerce, services).

    And my eldest dreams of building rockets. Studies at the Lyceum at Baumank.
    I'm a cynical pessimist myself. But when it gets really bad, I remember the heavy sigh to God of the prophet Elijah, when he fled from the murderers on a forty-day journey to the desert:
    - Lord, I alone remained with You, and they are looking for my soul.
    And the answer to him from heaven: - I kept myself ten thousand people who did not kneel before Baal.

    It's not all bad. There is undoubtedly simplification and flattening in the mass, but the mass does not determine the vector of development. Don't be a mass - be yourself.
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 26 November 2020 17: 21
      +17
      Quote: Galleon
      I'm a cynical pessimist myself.

      Let me join in. Being a pessimist is amazing. I am always either right or pleasantly surprised. December 16, good luck to my son and his parents.
    2. t-12
      t-12 26 November 2020 17: 44
      +13
      And my eldest dreams of building rockets.
      A dream is wonderful. But there may be problems with the fulfillment of the dream, given the situation in the Russian space industry.
    3. bk316
      bk316 30 November 2020 17: 47
      +1
      And my eldest dreams of building rockets. Studies at the Lyceum at Baumank.

      Trust me, it will work on its dream - it will build.
      In the 90s, when I left the university, I thought that programmers, mathematicians, engineers in this country were over, my students were the last. And they had little choice to work for a pittance or leave.
      And when my son received his diploma, and employers stood in line, I realized that everything was just beginning.
  • BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 26 November 2020 16: 33
    -6
    again, it all boiled down to "the oath of Western civilization wants to enslave the lights of the world and supermen."
    Oxfords all sorts of seeing some future politicians are releasing, and they are developing and building rockets, iPhones and electric cars by them "leaked brains" from the countries of the former USSR.
    The author has touched on the actual problem, but there are too many conspiracy theories
    1. unaha
      unaha 26 November 2020 16: 53
      -3
      And the logic is lame, uneducated "consumers" simply have nothing to consume. On the contrary, they require additional funds to support life. True, in our country I'm not sure if this is considered a significant argument. For a commodity export economy and an authoritarian political system, thinking and educated people are rather a hindrance.
  • bk316
    bk316 26 November 2020 16: 34
    +5
    Well, everyone here knows how to play football, treat all diseases and how to build an education system.
    I do not know what relation you have, Alexander, to education. Phrase
    The first months of distance learning (distance learning system) showed that it led to a sharp drop in the level of mass education.
    says that it is distant. For the level of education is a terribly inertial thing for several months it does not change. WELL YES OK, here's the truth from a person who knows a lot about the education system.

    1. The basic problem of modern public education is that the state does not know why it is needed at all. Well, show me where the goal of public education is clearly and realistically formulated. At least average or higher. THAT IS WE HAVE A PROCESS WITHOUT A PURPOSE - This is madness.

    2. When talking about the quality of education, one important thing is forgotten. All over the world there is education for the masses and education for the elite (for the real and not our elite). I congratulate you with us. THE DIVISION OF EDUCATION INTO ELITARY AND MASS EDUCATION IN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION HAPPENED. Where do the prizes at international Olympiads and outstanding young programmers, mathematicians and biologists come from? Yes, they are from elite educational institutions. Our system of elite education (especially natural science) is one of the best in the world. Yes, only to this has little to do with public education.

    3. The general level of education is fallingt. Of course it falls and how could it be otherwise if they do not know what, how, and the main thing for what to teach. Do not know the teacher does not know the state and most importantly does not know the SOCIETY.

    4. In some disciplines (history, literature, the DADA environment), ideological sabotage is clearly traced. You read these textbooks and your hair stands on end. I personally do not know the authors of these textbooks, but I really want to talk in a basement in the center of Moscow.

    5. Stories about what was a wonderful education in the USSR (70-80s) is nothing more than a myth. Who doubts, let's give exams in basic subjects at the SEVENTH grade level. The actual division into elite and mass education was then in full swing. Your servant graduated from physical. mat. a school to which no one could get into from the outside, then UOCVT (this is the current LIT), and then Moscow State University. And there were even more elite and inaccessible educational cycles.

    What to do? Unfortunately or not, we are faced with the fact that the education of our children is our own business. There is no other, and in the foreseeable past and in the future there has not been and will not be.
    1. vvvjak
      vvvjak 26 November 2020 16: 49
      +1
      Quote: bk316
      the education of our children is our own business. There is no other, and in the foreseeable past as well as in the future there has not been and will not be.

      I completely agree, I also wrote about this before.
      Quote: bk316
      The actual division into elite and mass education was then in full swing.

      As a father of a student and future secondary school graduate, I also confirm. In my Soviet past, there were no such opportunities for admission as my children now have.
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 26 November 2020 19: 55
        +3
        He worked at the High School since 1982. Every year,% of rural and urban children were tested. And in Soviet times, there were ALWAYS more urban schools in the Higher School. But after the introduction of the Unified State Exam, the% leveled off, and in some places even increased. I had groups where the rural population was 56% and even 60%. And they very quickly overtook, and even overtook the townspeople. But to overtake, you first need to get there. And this was more difficult for them than for the townspeople!
        1. vvvjak
          vvvjak 26 November 2020 20: 14
          +3
          Not in this case. Just personal experience. Before the exams and CT, the son had already entered SSU (Samara), with minimal body movements on his part, the MIPT was really shining. This is given the fact that we live in Belarus. During my admission, the principle of the joke "..... the general has his own grandchildren" really worked.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 26 November 2020 16: 52
      +12
      What to do? Unfortunately or not, we are faced with the fact that the education of our children is our own business. There is no other, and in the foreseeable past and in the future there has not been and will not be.

      That is, you understand that everything is lost and nothing can be done?
      Education must be like in the USSR .. Affordable and of high quality for everyone .. however, like medicine. Otherwise, as the author wrote, Russia is doomed ..
      And it is not difficult for the state to return all the best that was in the USSR. But this is a deliberate, purposeful policy aimed at destroying Russia. Our state is a corporation that is subordinate to other corporations.
      1. Ulysses
        Ulysses 27 November 2020 00: 37
        0
        It is not difficult to enter the river twice.
        Here it is, water, banks, birches grow.
        The photo is attached. winked

        PS Svarog and K, you have not understood anything in this life.
      2. bk316
        bk316 30 November 2020 17: 09
        0
        That is, you understand that everything is lost and nothing can be done?

        You, with your probably Soviet education, never learned to read.
        READ AGAIN CAREFULLY
        There is no other and in the foreseeable how past so in the future did not have and will not be.

        Education has always been in my memory a personal matter, there is no such thing as yours may have been the state minimum, but mine is all somehow myself.

        You are just an apologist for clip thinking.
        And it is not difficult for the state to return all the best that was in the USSR. But this is a deliberate, purposeful policy aimed at destroying Russia. Our state is a corporation that is subordinate to other corporations.

        It's just a set of bortsun memes.
        I swear I can write a bot that will scribble such comments.
        But clip thinking was despised in the USSR, although it was called differently.
        So the question arises whether you personally studied so badly in the Union, or everything was not so good with education in the country.
        Sometimes thoughts creep in, or maybe everything is easier and you are a young girl from a former Soviet republic who never went to a Soviet school?
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 26 November 2020 17: 23
      +7
      Quote: bk316
      ... The stories about what a wonderful education it was in the USSR (70-80s) is nothing more than a myth. Who doubts, let's give exams in basic subjects at the SEVENTH grade level.

      Unfortunately, you do not understand what education is. An attempt to assess its availability and effectiveness using a memory check is ineffective, to put it mildly. In the Soviet school, exams were organized not only, and not even so much in order to identify the number of paragraphs that the student was able to remember. The exam is PART OF THE TRAINING. Not checking its results.
      Alas. I noticed a long time ago that even among seemingly professionals the understanding of what the School is in general has been lost. What is the Higher School. Teachers who should understand this in the first place, teachers ... no one is able to understand the goals, and, therefore, the methods to achieve them, to which they should strive. Horror ...
      1. bk316
        bk316 1 December 2020 12: 05
        0
        What is the Higher School.

        Explain. First, if you can write a little about yourself, otherwise it might be funny ...

        With regard to my statement, it refers to high school. And notice the word basic. That is, we are not talking about memory, we are talking about understanding the basic mechanisms. Sorry, but discussing the shortcomings of higher education with people unable to prove the Pythagorean theorem is throwing pearls in front of pigs. But you are not like that? You've probably taught or are teaching in a high school. If not, then I return you to the beginning of my comment.
        Well, everyone here knows how to play football, treat all diseases and how to build an education system.
    4. Aag
      Aag 27 November 2020 21: 18
      +1
      Quote: bk316
      Well, everyone here knows how to play football, treat all diseases and how to build an education system.
      I do not know what relation you have, Alexander, to education. Phrase
      The first months of distance learning (distance learning system) showed that it led to a sharp drop in the level of mass education.
      says that it is distant. For the level of education is a terribly inertial thing for several months it does not change. WELL YES OK, here's the truth from a person who knows a lot about the education system.

      1. The basic problem of modern public education is that the state does not know why it is needed at all. Well, show me where the goal of public education is clearly and realistically formulated. At least average or higher. THAT IS WE HAVE A PROCESS WITHOUT A PURPOSE - This is madness.

      2. When talking about the quality of education, one important thing is forgotten. All over the world there is education for the masses and education for the elite (for the real and not our elite). I congratulate you with us. THE DIVISION OF EDUCATION INTO ELITARY AND MASS EDUCATION IN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION HAPPENED. Where do the prizes at international Olympiads and outstanding young programmers, mathematicians and biologists come from? Yes, they are from elite educational institutions. Our system of elite education (especially natural science) is one of the best in the world. Yes, only to this has little to do with public education.

      3. The general level of education is fallingt. Of course it falls and how could it be otherwise if they do not know what, how, and the main thing for what to teach. Do not know the teacher does not know the state and most importantly does not know the SOCIETY.

      4. In some disciplines (history, literature, the DADA environment), ideological sabotage is clearly traced. You read these textbooks and your hair stands on end. I personally do not know the authors of these textbooks, but I really want to talk in a basement in the center of Moscow.

      5. Stories about what was a wonderful education in the USSR (70-80s) is nothing more than a myth. Who doubts, let's give exams in basic subjects at the SEVENTH grade level. The actual division into elite and mass education was then in full swing. Your servant graduated from physical. mat. a school to which no one could get into from the outside, then UOCVT (this is the current LIT), and then Moscow State University. And there were even more elite and inaccessible educational cycles.

      What to do? Unfortunately or not, we are faced with the fact that the education of our children is our own business. There is no other, and in the foreseeable past and in the future there has not been and will not be.

      Hello! I have a few comments on your comment. If I may ... (if not, I will try to present it anyway, for those present))).
      According to claim 1, - no comments.
      P.2.You (IMHO) correctly distinguished eliar education from the formation of offspring "elit". There are nuances, but now not about that.
      P.3: It seems that this is a sober thought too. But, excuse me, if you don't know why, what, why to teach (do you consider yourself to be an education?), Why such wild spelling errors in the text ?!
      Like, will it do well? Teach
      same?
      I have ... (indirect, direct, - it is necessary to emphasize) attitude to the higher education system (except for the diploma of the Higher Educational Institution), - I worked for five years as a security guard! At the institute, academy, university, - no, it's all the same university, the names have changed , depending on the educational reform, accreditation, certifications ... I understand that the word "security guard" has become a household word, - the image of a person from "Pyaterochka" is drawn, right? Believe me, then it was different, in the XNUMXs. There were, of course, thugs fools .But the basis was made up of former, and not only servicemen. Honored district, Afghan bombers, pennies of the Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Internal Affairs, some with wounds, orders from external and internal wars. In the context under discussion, they are just people with not the worst education, and some life experience. And in my eyes, this reform, monetization, degradation of education took place. Specialists are always needed, everyone, who does something. I remember the night consultations of businessmen at the economic, thugs at the legal professors. Further, on the "little things" .. .Inability to pass the exam n without acquiring a manual under the authorship of the examiner ... Appointment of the vice-rector of a graduate of the college of physical education (played billiards with the right people), etc., etc.
      P.4 In my opinion, the basement you mentioned should be cramped in general. It is difficult to find disciplines for whose teachers, or rather, for the curriculum shapers, there are no questions.
      I realize that everything is not entirely unambiguous. I had a chance to teach at a college at the university OVS (basics of military service). According to the program of the Ministry, the course included 108 hours. EMNIP. In fact, it happened, and 10! one part of the audience has an introductory lecture, another - a final one ... Show-off!
      P.5 ..... I do not agree.
      Yes, for sure I will not answer some of the questions from a modern textbook for the 7th grade. Think about why. In the pursuit of originality, incorrect questions are sometimes posed. Section two, this is that a person retains basic knowledge, grafted methods of thinking, information retrieval, and some knowledge that is not used professionally, or in everyday life is fading away. It is difficult for me to imagine a graduate of the USSR secondary school who could not calculate the volume of the pool, the area of ​​the walls, when gluing wallpaper with given dimensions and rectangular structures. Now there are such acquaintances among graduates of universities. Nothing, even successful businessmen ...
      As for the accessibility of education, as you said elite ...
      Don't be fooled, under the USSR, all other things being equal, it was easier. (Yes, there was a concept of pulling, there were remote areas). Nowadays universities are purposefully focused on boblo! drunk in the morning!)))
      Do you know that anyone who wants to enter the Higher Educational Institution of Higher Education himself pays for the fare? female talking heads in colonel's, general's shoulder straps will not be in this article))).
      1. bk316
        bk316 30 November 2020 17: 37
        0
        You see, I taught programming at Moscow State University for 10 years. For all the time I wrote 50 words for students in Russian. And my former students are now the best specialists in the best companies in the world, so I'm quite proud of my teaching activities and spelling has nothing to do with it.


        At the institute, academy, university, - no, it's all the same university

        Let me try to explain what an elite educational institution is, if a university changes its names as a girl of easy virtue of gentlemen, it is ALREADY not an elite. From the fact that the fence building was called a university or an academy, it did not cease to be a fence building.

        P.5 ..... I do not agree.
        Yes, for sure I will not answer some of the questions from a modern textbook for the 7th grade.

        Why from modern, you answer from that old. Well, try first to list the capitals of all African countries, since you are a humanitarian. Did not work out? So education, which gives knowledge that immediately flies out of my head because it is not needed, is not so good. As for the pool, I wrote that the overall level is falling. And if we talk about general principles and how you learned them, then you need to meet ... laughing

        For the rector, the news summary from the selection committee on the number of commercial applicants is like a sip of beer for a drunk in the morning

        You do not understand what you are writing about. Competition for VMiK when my son entered was on a budget of 200 (TWO KARL !!!)
        people per place, but in general the number of applicants was limited only by areas. It's just that you again confuse institutions that nobody needs and institutions that provide the best education in the world.

        under the USSR, other things being equal, it was easier

        No, it’s no more difficult, to pass an exam for Mechanics and Mathematics, VMC or Physics Department without SPECIAL training was without a chance.
        It didn't matter whether it was a special school, a boarding school or a tutor, but the preparation had to be. How can a rural student from the provinces get this training? And now I passed 3 subjects of the Unified State Exam for 90 points (and this can be done by any intelligent and stubborn person) and entered. Good or bad, it's a fact.
    5. aglet
      aglet 1 December 2020 10: 28
      0
      "5. The stories about what a wonderful education it was in the USSR (70-80s) is nothing more than a myth. Who doubts, let's arrange exams in basic subjects at the level of the SEVENTH grade."
      more than 50 years have passed since then, the stump is clear, a lot has been forgotten without use, but something still remains
      "Actually, the division into elite and mass education was in full swing then. Your servant graduated from the physics and mathematics school, which no one could get to from the outside, then the UPCVT (this is the present LIT), and then Moscow State University."
      You and then everywhere for money entered these elite centers?
  • Alanart
    Alanart 26 November 2020 16: 35
    +4
    I have only one question, all this badyaga from April with a break for summer holidays, and then from October. In total, 3 months, when did you manage to become dull? :)
    Perhaps separating flies from cutlets is a common systemic problem of education and a short period of "remote" experience?
    And enough is enough, like the mantra, "about the best Soviet education in the world." Not the best. With the best in the world, the whole country does not charge banks from the TV image of Kashpirovsky :)
    1. alavrin
      alavrin 26 November 2020 16: 56
      +4
      If only Kashpirovsky and Chumak ... As you remember the wizards Chubais and Gaidar, who promised two Volga in the country of fools, you will inevitably think about the quality of this very education and the millions of its carriers)) Not to mention Gorbachev ...
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 27 November 2020 12: 53
      +5
      Quote: Alanart
      Not the best. With the best in the world, the whole country does not charge banks from the TV image of Kashpirovsky :)

      You are confusing education with naivety. The Soviet people are accustomed to trusting a zomboyaschik, which the authorities still use today. Since Kashpirovsky and Chumak are shown on the First, it means the truth. But naivety is not a sign of stupidity and ignorance, but a sign of the purity of the soul. The Achilles' heel of the USSR turned out to be the hothouse of the population, absolutely not adapted to the cannibalistic laws of the market, and chasing the beautiful wrapper of capitalism. Alas. hi
    3. aglet
      aglet 1 December 2020 10: 35
      0
      "And enough is enough, like a mantra," about the best Soviet education in the world. "Not the best. With the best in the world, the whole country does not charge banks from the TV image of Kashpirovsky :)"
      did you personally charge these banks? I - no! so what are you talking about the whole country? and the fact that these charlatans were shown on TV speaks only of the level of education of TV leaders, dullness and ignorance, who have seized power.
  • Esoteric
    Esoteric 26 November 2020 16: 37
    +15
    Modest opinion. Distance education means that every family must have a computer with paid Internet access. Now if you look from this side. And why excuse the hangover, the family is obliged to have a computer? Let's start with the fact that it is not cheap at all, and end with the fact that someone simply does not want to have a computer, a smartphone, and that is all. These are the beliefs.
    Is it obligatory to have Internet access from any device now? Well, if this is an obligation, then provide this device. There is no money to buy it, so what? Are you now a pariah and deprived of the opportunity to get an education?
    Explain, maybe I don't understand something?
    1. Genry
      Genry 26 November 2020 17: 39
      -7
      Quote: Ezoterik
      And why excuse the hangover, the family is obliged to have a computer? Let's start with the fact that it is not cheap at all, and end with the fact that someone simply does not want to have a computer, a smartphone, and that is all. These are the beliefs.

      For training, you can choose a cheap entry-level computer (encoding and decoding of 4 video channels, educational software, the Internet). True, you still have to buy a good microphone, headphones and a trio of video cameras for frontal and rearview (control of the working environment). There will be expenses for furnishing the workspace. But this, in the context of the introduction of video telephony, is becoming a mandatory attribute of modern life.
      The Internet is now replacing cable TV and telephony, so the level of costs is comparable.
      If you have "beliefs", then you will not be able to fit into the modern work cycle.

      For teachers, with distance learning, you can create a standard set of lectures, which can be better and more clearly designed than handwritten "on the blackboard".

      The only drawback for distance learning is the weakening of the "socialization" of children. There is no mutual assistance and confrontation in the team. Those. it is necessary to develop a new method of interaction between students. But thanks to the lecture notes, it is possible to create a networked education system, when students teach their classmates, which will partially replace the homework system.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 26 November 2020 17: 59
        +8
        Think of it as retrograde. But all this digitalization will not lead to good. I got my first computer in 2011, when I was already over forty. Yes, it was interesting. Apparently in my childhood I did not play enough. In spite of his age, literally in six months he became familiar with him, and I will pick up the components and assemble them myself, and in the same Debian like a fish in water, although I left Linux, it was not comme il faut at my age to “red-eyed” windows ", because it is convenient, and there are all the programs that your heart desires.
        But it began to come to the understanding that computerization is far from good, not good at all. Remembering myself in childhood, always on the street, bruises, broken knees, games, and not in front of the screen, but with the same children, peers. Reading books, normal books, where the rustle of pages, and not this wretchedness from the screen.
        Yes, the internet is a blessing. You can learn everything, you can learn everything. But where is the road to bridge with good intentions? Take the same money. They turn into numbers on the screen, and the bank can reset these numbers to zero at any moment, block everything for you, and you won't even be able to buy bread for yourself. Progress?
        If the game cyberpunk 2077 will be released, I will definitely buy it if I find the means, because CD Projekt RED seems to me to show the world where humanity is in a hurry at full speed. Something seems that I will not like this future world. Chur, me, chur, as they say. What are your opinions?
        1. Genry
          Genry 26 November 2020 18: 16
          0
          Quote: Ezoterik
          But it began to come to the understanding that computerization is far from good, not good at all. Remembering myself in childhood, always on the street, bruises, broken knees, games, and not in front of the screen, but with the same children, peers. Reading books, normal books, where the rustle of pages, and not this wretchedness from the screen.

          You have somehow mixed the educational process and the time for rest, games, circles, sections, hiking and labor education. You don't have to limit yourself to a cell in the screen for 24 hours, otherwise you will look like a programmer from the movie "Jurassic Park"
          Quote: Ezoterik
          The cyberpunk 2077 game will be released, I will definitely buy it if I find the funds,

          Your interest is your right. But here you are contradicting yourself on the severity of the computer costs - this is not essential for you and most people. And if / when neural interfaces appear, you probably will not give up an unpleasant operation.
          1. Esoteric
            Esoteric 26 November 2020 18: 21
            +4
            This is all clear. But, a person who does not want, does not want to have any business with computers should have this right. And he should not be limited by anything. This is his right and his choice. Otherwise, a dictatorship.
            1. Genry
              Genry 26 November 2020 18: 33
              -1
              Quote: Ezoterik
              a person who does not want, does not want to have any business with computers should have this right.

              Do you have the right to work or not work, or to choose a possible compromise? In the education system, no one cancels compromises: you can complete your education with or without a certificate.
            2. kalibr
              kalibr 26 November 2020 19: 49
              0
              There is another five-story building not far from my house. Whenever I pass by at the first entrance there are 3-4 people. The look is obscene, the muzzles are drunk and speak of only one thing. During the day ... So for two days in a row I see off my granddaughter to drive at 6 in the morning and ... THEY ARE STANDING ... Do they not live in their apartments at all? What do they do, where do they get the money? But they take it somewhere! And so they have every right to live!
              1. Esoteric
                Esoteric 26 November 2020 19: 59
                +3
                If they are not involved in any crime, they get money for drinking by some kind of daily work, they get it in honest ways, and they don't care deeply about how they look, then this is their right to live like that.
                And the question is who is even happier. Loan at most I can’t be a hard worker in slavery from a bank, or they do not have cars, dachas, and debts. But this is already philosophy smile
                Remember The Prince and the Pauper?
    2. t-12
      t-12 26 November 2020 17: 50
      +4
      then provide this device.
      Yes, easily. They will give out tablets for 3 thousand rubles with a minimum "educational" Internet package. It will still be cheaper (and more useless) to maintain a school building and "real" teaching.
      1. Genry
        Genry 26 November 2020 18: 43
        -1
        Quote: t-12
        They will give out tablets for 3 thousand rubles with a minimum "educational" Internet package.

        This will only pull at the level of correspondence education. For normal remote communication with the teacher, a more developed working environment is needed in the form of a fully or partially isolated space with video and sound equipment and cameras for reviewing the situation (during control sessions). Perhaps this will lead to the production and rental of equipped special capsules.
        1. t-12
          t-12 26 November 2020 18: 56
          +2
          For normal remote communication
          So we are not talking about "normal". It's about imitation of education. It seems that there is education, and even free, but the quality ... that's how it goes.
          1. Genry
            Genry 26 November 2020 19: 02
            +1
            Quote: t-12
            So we are not talking about "normal". It's about imitation of education. It seems that there is education, and even free, but the quality ...

            Now no one knows how and how much to study remotely. There is no final decision yet - no methodological research and development.
        2. aglet
          aglet 1 December 2020 10: 41
          0
          "For normal remote communication with a teacher, a more developed working environment is needed in the form of a fully or partially isolated space with video and sound equipment and cameras for reviewing the situation (during control sessions)"
          and who will determine this level of the environment? and why can't you study without rear view cameras?
          1. Genry
            Genry 1 December 2020 19: 11
            0
            Quote: aglet
            and why can't you study without rear view cameras?

            Watching cartoons and .....
    3. Alf
      Alf 26 November 2020 18: 49
      +2
      Quote: Ezoterik
      And why excuse the hangover, the family is obliged to have a computer? To begin with, it's not cheap at all,

      So the bank will always come to the rescue ... I have already fallen in love with SMS from banks, sometimes 2 pieces a day come - you have approved a loan from 200 to 000, you just come, just take ...
  • deniso
    deniso 26 November 2020 16: 41
    +2
    An oligarchy does not need a smart population to thrive
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 November 2020 16: 41
    +2
    Nothing better was found. Video tutorials (compared to a normal lesson) are a pathetic surrogate.
    Well, how can you explain math or chemistry to your child using the video. It's just nonsense.
  • iouris
    iouris 26 November 2020 16: 41
    +5
    And right now, straight, the country of geniuses.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 26 November 2020 18: 52
      -1
      And right now, straight, the country of geniuses.
      ..
      I do not presume to prophesy
      But I know for sure that I'll be back
      Even after a hundred centuries
      To the land of not fools, but geniuses
      Now he will not return, we will wait for the second coming of Talkov in 100 centuries. smile
  • Van 16
    Van 16 26 November 2020 16: 42
    +6
    The picture from "Dunno on the Moon" is not in vain in the article. All the same, Nikolai Nikolaevich was a great writer.
  • Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 26 November 2020 16: 47
    +11
    The author gave one excerpt from "Dunno on the Moon", and there is such a story that the current rulers will ban it, here is another excerpt from Dunno
    "- And who are these policemen? - asked Herring.
    “Bandits!” Said Spikelet in exasperation. - Honest
    word, bandits! The real duty of the police
    - protect the population from robbers, in
    in reality, they protect only the rich. AND
    the rich are the real robbers. Only
    they rob us, hiding behind laws that they themselves
    come up with. And what, tell me, the difference, according to the law
    Will they rob me or not by law? I do not care!
    - Here you are somehow wonderful! - said Vintik. - Why
    you obey the police and even these ... how do you
    call it rich?
    - Try not to listen here, when everything is in their hands: and
    land, and factories, and money, and in addition weapons!
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 26 November 2020 16: 51
      +7
      I like this, from the same place:

      "Everyone, you know, wants to show that he is better than others, and since intelligence, kindness, honesty are not valued by us in anything, they boast to each other with only wealth."
    2. Wizzzard
      Wizzzard 26 November 2020 20: 52
      +2
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      The author gave one excerpt from "Dunno on the Moon", and there is such a story that the current rulers will ban it, here is another excerpt from Dunno
      "- And who are these policemen? - asked Herring.
      “Bandits!” Said Spikelet in exasperation. - Honest
      word, bandits! The real duty of the police
      - protect the population from robbers, in
      in reality, they protect only the rich. AND
      the rich are the real robbers. Only
      they rob us, hiding behind laws that they themselves
      come up with. And what, tell me, the difference, according to the law
      Will they rob me or not by law? I do not care!
      - Here you are somehow wonderful! - said Vintik. - Why
      you obey the police and even these ... how do you
      call it rich?
      - Try not to listen here, when everything is in their hands: and
      land, and factories, and money, and in addition weapons!

      "Dunno" as inciting class (caste) hatred will be unambiguously banned. There are such individuals in the Duma and the Federation Council that I still wonder how the anti-Nosovsky bill has not been thrown in yet ... By the way, Chippolino will be shut down. A very anti-bourgeois book ...
  • Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 26 November 2020 16: 54
    0
    The article is addressed primarily to the victims of the exam. The author could give a more in-depth analysis of what is happening and its consequences.
    As a father of 8 children, I know about all the delights of "remote control" and I can tell a lot more interesting things.
    1. Alf
      Alf 26 November 2020 18: 52
      -1
      Quote: Artavazdych
      and I can tell you a lot more interesting things.

      No need, they banned for mate here, but without mate it will not work.
      1. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 26 November 2020 19: 09
        -1
        Your truth)
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    1. t-12
      t-12 26 November 2020 17: 55
      -1
      What is his homeland
      In American schools, kids swear by the American flag. Those. where the American flag is, there is the Motherland. Where a foreign flag is, there is no Motherland.

      In the old days, the Motherland was associated with the royal dynasty ... but now democracy and elections are in vogue. So only the flag remains.
      1. Wizzzard
        Wizzzard 26 November 2020 20: 55
        0
        Quote: t-12
        So only the flag remains.


        It is, but which one? The one that is today - or the one that soared over the defeated Hitlerite Berlin?
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 27 November 2020 09: 03
        +2
        What is his homeland
        In American schools, kids swear by the American flag. Those. where the American flag is, there is the Motherland. Where a foreign flag is, there is no Motherland.

        In the old days, the Motherland was associated with the royal dynasty ... but now democracy and elections are in vogue. So only the flag remains.
        At least cry, at least jump ... Instead of knowing about yourself, your ancestors and the Motherland, such plague ideas as in yours are candling in people's heads. I do not want to offend, of course, you are not to blame. You were not taught, you did not understand.
        No, damn it, it's impossible to associate the Motherland with the royal dynasty at all! The American flag is not a Motherland, they generally have no such concept in our understanding (however, in which ours ... you don't understand) do not have! America is a bandit state, and they are loyal there to their bandit gang, for the sake of which they are ready to show "honor and valor" in the bandit sense of the word. That's how our highlanders are.
        Loyalty to the Motherland in Russian is loyalty to the Motherland. What the hell are dynasties ?! Native Land is where you were born, and the land on which Russian people live (and plow it, the land, the source of life), such as you in the way of life, the way of thinking and feeling. The nationality of these Russian people is not important, the main thing is that they are Russians.
        A truly Russian person is always ready to defend the Native Land. Even at the cost of his life, because he is dying, but on the Motherland, in peace and safety, Russian people will continue the race, who will take care of both the future and his offspring. A Russian man lives for this and is ready to die first of all for this.
        It is this worldview that has undergone such a super-powerful attack. It has actually been destroyed. You are carrying all this, wild and strange, other people have a massive mess in their heads ... Soon the Russian Land will be taken away from us, because we no longer understand why we live and what we must protect, and we do not teach children, and we ourselves do not know ... Advanced Users, yeah. Ok, I'm old already. Maybe I'll have time to die ...
        1. t-12
          t-12 28 November 2020 21: 10
          -1
          Loyalty to the Motherland in Russian is loyalty to the Motherland. What the hell are dynasties ?!
          Here is the text of the oath. They swore allegiance not only to the "Russian land", but specifically to the emperor ("the owner of the Russian land").

          I, named below, promise and swear by Almighty God, before his holy Gospel, that I want and owe His Imperial Majesty, my true and natural All-Merciful Great Sovereign Emperor NN [Nikolai Alexandrovich], the Autocrat of All Russia ... faithfully and unfeignedly serve and obey in everything, not sparing your belly to the last drop of blood

          Okay, I'm old already. Maybe I'll have time to die ...
          Well, why rush this case? Old - teach small. Since they are poorly taught to defend the earth.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 29 November 2020 13: 01
            0
            What does the oath have to do with it? A lot of people got to the bottom of the text of the Soviet Oath, and considered themselves free from it, "if so." But I swore an oath to the Motherland, and only she can release me from the Oath. When I lie down in mother-damp earth anyway, then my Oath will be fully fulfilled. Not earlier. Whatever the text is written in it.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 26 November 2020 17: 17
    +2
    And Vanka is on the stove, reading the press,
    He has had completely different interests for a long time. Made in China on bast shoes and bast is no longer weaved,
    And it is not plowed, not sown, not grown or reaped.
    Turn off the lights! It's all summed up! There are no results, as it should be,
    From general demagoguery to business far
    And again, of course, it's not easy for everyone ...
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 26 November 2020 17: 17
    +4
    Grade 3 TsPSh - the ideal of education for the population of Russia for our government. Gref's dreams come true.
    1. Alf
      Alf 26 November 2020 18: 54
      +4
      Quote: 16112014nk
      Grade 3 TsPSh - the ideal of education for the population of Russia for our government. Gref's dreams come true.

  • yriuv62
    yriuv62 26 November 2020 17: 18
    +4
    Russia already thirty years ago became a country of fools, and with joyful squeals. And he does not want to get out of this state, well, maybe with a few exceptions for naive dreamers.
    1. t-12
      t-12 26 November 2020 17: 57
      +7
      By the way, yes. Why did the Soviet people, who had a Soviet education, fall for Kashpirovsky and Mavrodi?
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 26 November 2020 18: 15
        +5
        But this is a killer question. There was also Alan Chumak, who charged water and water. And after all, they really sat in front of Horizon, Photon, Record, who had what and "charged".
        Here, in my opinion, the answer is that the Union banned the entire mystical component of life, forced atheism, and explained at the level of "stick-digger". And man, this is such a creature that he always reaches for the miraculous, the inexplicable, he always latently believes in a miracle. And no atheistic, and forcibly implanted, worldview will destroy this faith.
        Again, a thinking person understands that everything is not easy in our world, oh, not easy. Science is, of course, great, but my doctors, for example, the asthma that started in childhood, could not stop, it was getting worse and worse. But then my great-grandmother took me to a remote village, literally snatching from my mother's hands, which she carried to different doctors, to my grandmother. And something happened that the doctors could not achieve. The incipient asthma is gone, as if it were not there. The first bell on the way to esotericism. smile
        1. t-12
          t-12 26 November 2020 18: 28
          +2
          And man, this is such a creature that he is always drawn to the wonderful, inexplicable
          That is where the task of education lies - to discourage people from the miraculous and lead them to what is reasonable, expedient and practically feasible.
        2. Kostya Lavinyukov
          Kostya Lavinyukov 26 November 2020 21: 35
          0
          There is a chemical hour near your house. there was no factory? If there was, then the recovery in the village explains a lot even without esotericism.
  • t-12
    t-12 26 November 2020 17: 27
    +1
    could become a mathematician, chemist, historian, art worker. Nowadays consumers and "managers" (sellers) are produced.
    Because the Russian economy is based on the sale of raw materials and the purchase of foreign equipment. Domestic production is extremely small, so mathematicians and chemists, in general, are not needed. Art is also not needed, it is easier to play Hollywood films or make films "with a Hollywood look."

    Well, "distance learning" is the usual economy on the quality of education. School education, it seems, remains, and free, but the quality drops to such a level that there will be no sense in free education.

    Elite children travel to England and study there in boarding schools... There is no question of any remote location.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 26 November 2020 18: 43
      +3
      study there in boarding schools
      The British do not hesitate to call them hotbeds of homosexuality, by the way.
      1. t-12
        t-12 26 November 2020 18: 52
        +1
        This is a matter of education, incl. extracurricular. In tsarist times, balls were held, where students from schools, as well as female students, were invited. For the boys to dance and get to know the girls.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 26 November 2020 19: 03
          -1
          tsarist times hosted balls
          This is a half measure. And about the quality of education - they don't teach any secret mathematics or history. In fact, training in such a nursery is useful only in the formation of connections. And that does not always work - the son of the owner of the oil well, who drove there for dad's money for them, remains the son of a native prince from a distant potential colony of the Crown. Something like this.
          1. t-12
            t-12 26 November 2020 19: 16
            +1
            It's not just communication, but discipline as well. Children are less involved in nonsense and more engaged in business. The same applies to the school / pioneer / cadet uniform, it also disciplines well.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 26 November 2020 19: 20
              -1
              also good discipline.
              The form evens out the visible difference in the wealth of families (one in Armani and the other in ...). And discipline, in any closed same-sex society, inevitably appears its own, specific sense.
              1. t-12
                t-12 26 November 2020 19: 41
                +2
                Discipline of a specific kind appears in a society occupied with nonsense. For example, in the rear section, where soldiers are placed on guard at warehouses and forced to clean toilets to shine.

                If the fighters are busy with normal combat training, then they have no time for "specific" relationships, there is no time. And the psychology is different.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 November 2020 19: 16
      -4
      "Domestic production is extremely small" - Yes, so "very little" that non-resource and non-energy exports last year reached $ 210 billion. And from whom and what to buy and what to produce is an individual matter.
      1. t-12
        t-12 26 November 2020 19: 32
        +3
        https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/neW9Deg7/ts-exp.xls

        2018 Total Exports: $ 450277,5 Million

        Non-commodity exports (textiles, textiles and footwear + machinery, equipment and vehicles + other goods): $ 37607 million (or slightly more than 8% of total exports).
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 November 2020 23: 01
          +1
          Processed weapons IT sphere, etc. - 210 billion is recruited.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 26 November 2020 17: 33
    +3
    For once - absolutely correct article from Samsonov. I'm shocked :))))) I never thought I'd say this, but - yes, I'm really ready to subscribe to almost every word of this article
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 November 2020 17: 52
    +2
    The hypostases of Mr. Samsonov are inscrutable ... what
    About dependence on "gadgets" and obedient biomass of human resources - relevant.
    But everything else is controversial.
    The Soviet school is being idealized. Yes. There were wonderful teachers who kept discipline and explained well. But the other half are random people who would not last even a month in a modern school. In the Soviet school, no one huffed with poor students. The program was simple, straightforward, small in volume. 45 tickets + tutorial. And everyone prepares for the exam on their own. Everyone was afraid - that's why they taught ... Now there are university programs, but you can not teach them at all. The article of the Constitution on compulsory general education has taken on an anecdotal meaning. Certificate-9 is guaranteed - EVERYTHING !!! This absolutely killed the desire to learn from 80% of the children.

    ps I am lost in conjecture. What kind of "creativity" in the Soviet school does the author write about and the commentators cry? I would look at a student with free interpretations of history and the laws of physics. laughing
    Now the other extreme is endless "creativity" in the absence of a knowledge base.
    According to the concept of "modern lesson" according to the Federal State Educational Standard, it is necessary: ​​for a 7th grade student to guess the topic of the lesson himself, set a task for himself, choose methods, solve the problem, check and evaluate himself, choose his homework. At home, the student must engage in "scientific activities" and apply it in practice. Something like the "monkey project" of the hero V. Nevinny from "Garage".
    And in pedagogical reality, all this nonsense is only for a flash mob. In reality - the good old lesson system. So tell Mr. Samsonov. Better to write his own historical "synopsis" - it is useful to read to verify the facts before the lesson.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 26 November 2020 19: 41
      +1
      So all the "approvers" do not even know what FGOS or FOS is and how it works. My granddaughter, for example, prefers to study remotely by mobile, because nothing distracts. And the group is full of habaloks, talkers, and teachers ... through one ... So there has always been and will be: "who what?"
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 26 November 2020 19: 53
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        My granddaughter, for example, prefers to study remotely via mobile, because nothing distracts

        This is ideal for those who have a goal and will in the middle! No need to be distracted by unnecessary "activities" ... And for the younger and 5-8 grades - problematic. Some have childhood, others have a "hormonal flurry". It's good when there is a choice of the system.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 26 November 2020 21: 02
          +2
          Quote: samarin1969
          It's good when there is a choice of the system.

          Exactly! But you know that the choice is for those who have ... And for those who do not have and never had - they are afraid of choice. They are better off, "Wherever they tell me!"
          By the way, my granddaughter went to college after the 9th. And most of her classmates went to 10 and 11. Personally, I, knowing this school and teachers, am horrified. From 1 to 4 it is excellent, from 5 to 7 - so-so, 8-9 - terpilovka. And 10-11 - "nothing to do". But ... neither parents nor children understand!
          1. samarin1969
            samarin1969 26 November 2020 22: 15
            +2
            Quote: kalibr
            And 10-11 - "nothing to do". But ... neither parents nor children understand!

            Granddaughter - to realize your plans! hi A smart choice. Two years ago the "wind" changed. Thinking children, for the most part, go to colleges for interesting professions (IT, design, kitchen masters, medicine with an eye on the university, etc.) But people with an "average score" below 3,5 weave "do nothing" to senior school. This is from personal experience and communication with colleagues. Well, many were frightened by the "Compulsory USE in English".
  • Free wind
    Free wind 26 November 2020 18: 03
    +1
    By the way, "Dunno" as well as "Chipolino" are prohibited here, remember when they were last shown. Since they are calling for the overthrow of the government, I am writing absolutely seriously. And in fact, if the parents have hammered in on the upbringing of their children, then why should the school educate something. A person receives 80 percent of knowledge in the first 6 years of his life, and throughout his life the remaining 20, so they write. In fact, there are very great opportunities for self-education now, just teach your child to read fluently. And then I came across graduates who read in syllables, these cannot be taught anything, even if you are a negro of advanced years.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 26 November 2020 18: 57
      +4
      Dunno on the Moon since the 2000s, I have not seen the cartoon of Chipolino, they play often and even showed on Kultura a film by Chipolino, which I have not seen since Soviet times. smile True, and showed in the morning ..
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 26 November 2020 19: 37
      +2
      Quote: Free Wind
      By the way, "dunno" like "Chipolino" is prohibited here

      They can be easily viewed upon request. You type in the name ... and watch it in good quality ... Nobody forbids it! Would forbid - removed!
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 26 November 2020 19: 41
        -3
        You can watch a lot here, it doesn't mean anything. You can watch a lot in good quality, for example, how people get their heads chopped off.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 26 November 2020 20: 45
          +2
          Quote: Free Wind
          let's say people get their heads chopped off.

          It was about cartoons, right? Why go aside from the topic. And do not invent non-existent horrors either!
          Dunno on the Moon. All series in a row. Soviet...
          youtube.com ›watch? v = g4C8mv0S_uI
          2:29:29 HD

          Here you open and look. And Wikipedia has it. Why was it banned, but not removed?
          1. Alf
            Alf 26 November 2020 21: 37
            0
            Quote: kalibr
            Dunno on the Moon. All series in a row. Soviet...
            youtube.com ›watch? v = g4C8mv0S_uI

            And how to ban on YouTube? On what grounds? Is he Russian? RCM recently tried to block the Cart, how did it end ???
            P.S. And torrents are now also outside the Russian jurisdiction. It’s in vain that the EP has recently been rubbing the topic of disconnecting the Russian segment of the Network so intensely, so that they don’t look ...
            1. Alf
              Alf 26 November 2020 21: 46
              -2
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: kalibr
              Dunno on the Moon. All series in a row. Soviet...
              youtube.com ›watch? v = g4C8mv0S_uI

              And how to ban on YouTube? On what grounds? Is he Russian? RCM recently tried to block the Cart, how did it end ???
              P.S. And torrents are now also outside the Russian jurisdiction. It’s in vain that the EP has recently been rubbing the topic of disconnecting the Russian segment of the Network so intensely, so that they don’t look ...

              The reason lies on the surface.
            2. kalibr
              kalibr 27 November 2020 06: 50
              +1
              So it is, in my opinion, and not on YouTube. I opened the page there of these Dunno, at least what to eat ...
      2. Alf
        Alf 26 November 2020 20: 56
        -1
        Quote: kalibr
        Quote: Free Wind
        By the way, "dunno" like "Chipolino" is prohibited here

        They can be easily viewed upon request. You type in the name ... and watch it in good quality ... Nobody forbids it! Would forbid - removed!

        1. kalibr
          kalibr 27 November 2020 06: 48
          +2
          This is not the first time. Under the tsar, a library of soldiers' reading was published for the soldiers and there was a book "The Tale of the Merchant Ostolop and his worker Balda". Well ... they don't sow fools, they don't blow ...
  • Ragnarok
    Ragnarok 26 November 2020 18: 09
    +6
    For a long time and consistently, they have been trying to make a herd of soulless, weak-willed and selfish cattle from the Russian people, from which one can profit only by waving a carrot. Only with painful indignation can one look at the collapse of society, at moral desolation, at the spread of an alien petty huckster mentality that replaces the heroic spirit, and it is especially depressing that it is the youth, the future of the nation, under pressure from the enemy, confidently making a choice in favor of spiritual unbridledness, fencing off "oneself "and" his "and all-encompassing rat races and cock fights for the amusement of genuine puppeteers.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 November 2020 19: 21
      -1
      You won't be full of spirituality - everyone is doing what they like looking for ways to earn money, develop, create something new, because in this life everything depends on you.
      1. Ragnarok
        Ragnarok 26 November 2020 20: 16
        +2
        The trouble is that man, by his material nature, strives not for creation and brotherhood, but for appropriation and enslavement - a person left to himself will soon extinguish the divine spark in himself and, like a cancerous tumor, will turn to unlimited absorption and seizure, following only the simplest properties the substance that makes up the body.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 November 2020 23: 12
          -3
          It does not strive for creation - in the West, with creation, everything is more than decently all trends, from clothing to astronautics, they move and create - but our creators in the USSR are still not very good at this. And to believe or not to believe in God is the same individual matter. I do not believe because it is difficult to believe in something that I have not seen - I believe in science and the universe can be seen there. And the absorption and capture of these properties in man was laid by nature, and now, paradoxically, humanity is growing in quantity and at the same time it consumes more and more and becomes richer - all this provides scientific and technological progress. Excellent video on this topic
          1. Ragnarok
            Ragnarok 26 November 2020 23: 52
            +4
            A consumer society is very much like a pig farm: feeding and then pulling out absolutely everything. So the people driven into the stable are imposed a downright universal need to consume as much material and quasi-cultural goods as possible - and not just consume, but send a full-fledged cult of the Golden Calf, performing rituals of massacres for the next trinket, making public their achievements in the field of devouring and acquisitions and sacrifices in the form of joyful and selfless drowning in the slops of everyone who can be drowned in them - and what, is a person not a resource for building his own, certainly exceptional happiness? Yes, this system presupposes a prosperous existence, but only for a small group of the most cunning, unprincipled and dastardly, all the rest are destined for the fate of slaughter animals and slaves with price tags nailed down, proportional solely to the extent to which its bearer can serve to satisfy the whims of brilliant cannibals.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 27 November 2020 15: 50
              0
              Without aspiration and consumption there will be no development of science and consumption, growing consumption and this is an integral part of the development of mankind, everyone wants to live well and with time there will be no hungry people on earth, everyone will have electricity communication medical care problems with waste and garbage will be solved the same as and cheap energy all this will come with time. Also, all people will be educated and they will be able to develop and learn from anywhere in the world as the Internet will be everywhere. I believe that over the next 150 years, all of the above will be in all countries of the world. The world does not stand still. Development goes in all directions, somewhere slower, somewhere faster. And there maybe people in the most developed countries will become cyborgs for the most part and gain immortality, which will allow them to explore other planets and the entire galaxy.
              1. Ragnarok
                Ragnarok 27 November 2020 17: 02
                +2
                By themselves, the complication of social organization and the growth of the technological level do not make a person either better or happier, but they give him more and more temptations. The world has lost its partitions and barriers - even more spiders have been crammed into the jar, each of which is firmly convinced that it is he who deserves to own everything. People have become interchangeable and unnecessary, it is easy to get rid of consumables - and what will become of him, his own business, did not fit in.
                This progress is neither bad nor good, but it is extremely untimely, because spiritually people have hardly grown since the time of the cave and have just decided to stop cutting each other for the color of their eyes.
  • Kushka
    Kushka 26 November 2020 18: 14
    +3
    [quote] "- And who are these police officers? - asked Herring.
    “Bandits!” Said Spikelet in exasperation. - Honest
    word, bandits! The real duty of the police
    - protect the population from robbers, in
    in reality, they protect only the rich. AND
    the rich are the real robbers. Only
    they rob us, hiding behind laws that they themselves
    come up with. And what, tell me, the difference, according to the law
    Will they rob me or not by law? I do not care!
    - Here you are somehow wonderful! - said Vintik. - Why
    you obey the police and even these ... how do you
    call it rich?
    - Try not to listen here, when everything is in their hands: and
    land, and factories, and money, and in addition weapons!
    [/ quote] [/ quote]
    Why is there a book. I was in one (big) city,
    a week later there was a need to exchange
    currency. I noticed a decent one in the next block
    bank and police. At dinner I ask the hostess
    which is better, on the market or still there. She is terrified-
    yes you what, we have the police, these are the bandits, even
    do not try. Go to the market, that's normal honest
    guys. So I did
  • parusnik
    parusnik 26 November 2020 18: 25
    +7
    Circe herself also went out to the Greeks and, smiling affably, offered them a meal. All agreed, except for the cautious Eurylochus. He did not go to Circe's house, but began to peep through the windows to see what was happening there. The goddess set before the travelers delicious dishes with a magic potion added to them. When the Greeks tasted it, Circe touched them with a magic wand, turned them into pigs and drove them into the pigsty. It was written even before Dunno. Odyssey's Wanderings
  • comradChe
    comradChe 26 November 2020 19: 06
    +3
    Everything is going according to plan as planned, even ahead of schedule. But it’s not over yet.
  • kalibr
    kalibr 26 November 2020 19: 34
    0
    Quote: paul3390
    or they us

    They are you! You just never have enough money to organize all this. Who will give them to you? Name the sources of funding, and we will listen and ... laugh together! Just do not name membership fees from party members. They will only be enough for you to have a rest in Nice in the summer, where, by the way, our Ilyich also rested, tired of revolutionary affairs. And no matter what!
  • Berg berg
    Berg berg 26 November 2020 20: 01
    0
    Fully possible, but the West and our former detached independent republics - countries have long since turned into them! And this is a fact!
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 26 November 2020 20: 34
    +3
    Everything is more or less true.

    It can also be added that Education Officials are often relatives and friends of bankers ....
  • Radikal
    Radikal 26 November 2020 20: 38
    +2
    Quote: El Dorado
    Svarog in EVERY article haits our country. However, he does not give any connotics. Just compare his comments with mine.
    And yesterday one "smart guy" called me "a Mexican descendant of Trotsky" and wrote that I needed to hit me in the head with an ice pick, but for some reason no one deleted his comment, although there was a threat of reprisals wassat

    He was wrong - he should have just sent you ... to school, to study. lol wassat
  • Kostya Lavinyukov
    Kostya Lavinyukov 26 November 2020 21: 31
    -4
    "The rich have the opportunity to educate children in elite schools, lyceums, universities"
    So, in most of these institutions there is a competitive selection, and if there is a problem with money, they can help.
    1. Alf
      Alf 26 November 2020 21: 52
      -1
      Quote: Kostya Lavinyukov
      "The rich have the opportunity to educate children in elite schools, lyceums, universities"
      So, in most of these institutions there is a competitive selection, and if there is a problem with money, they can help.

      This is the competition - who will give more.
      1. Kostya Lavinyukov
        Kostya Lavinyukov 26 November 2020 22: 02
        -1
        So why study there if the competition has not passed? In our country, even the past ones periodically took off, despite the efforts of teachers and parents. (I myself was on the brink a couple of times) Besides, the main problem is usually the lack of desire to learn, and not in the teachers. Now you can easily study online courses in the most remote village. There would be a desire.
        1. Alf
          Alf 26 November 2020 22: 30
          +1
          Quote: Kostya Lavinyukov
          In addition, the main problem is usually the lack of desire to learn,

          And why study "golden youth" if there is a dad who is always ready to throw a bundle of bucks and any problem will be solved. And if you tell me now that dad is not eternal, then I will answer that dad, giving the ends, will transfer his business to the heir, in the second echelon of which there will be really smart people, and the son will only be a wedding general, all functions of which will be reduced to a signature , where they point out, getting money and shouting at the "slaves" "you are all d-ki, I am smart and I feed you all, if you don't like it, let's get out."
          1. Kostya Lavinyukov
            Kostya Lavinyukov 26 November 2020 23: 59
            -2
            I meant the desire to learn from ordinary youth. "Golden", as you said, will figure it out by itself. Yes, and you demonize it, usually such parents try to instill in their children a desire to learn (kick pull is also a working option).
            1. Alf
              Alf 27 November 2020 17: 52
              +1
              Quote: Kostya Lavinyukov
              Yes, and you demonize it, usually such parents try to instill in their children a desire to learn (kick pull is also a working option).

              Well no. I had a trainee from Togliatti, my dad makes alloy wheels there, so my son sincerely believes that everyone should work in two professions, if there is no job (and the idea that the owner should load all his workers with work according to the profile in his bright mind in general did not go), and so, he sincerely believed that the salary of 30 tons for the working norm. And this is a typical example, this is just a petty riffraff who thinks so. What a LARGE riffraff thinks and does we all feel every day on our own skin and on our wallet.
  • orcinus
    orcinus 26 November 2020 21: 47
    +5
    The author achieved his goal: the article became very discussed) but! Everything is mixed in a heap. Unified State Exam and distance learning, again, distance learning for schoolchildren and students. In my opinion, a telecommuter could not affect the intellectual level of the population for several months. The glorification of the Soviet education system is also controversial. If we compare with the modern school, the Soviet system was better, but time flies forward, and we must think not “today”, and not even the concept of “tomorrow”, but the concept of “the day after tomorrow” if we want to “catch up and overtake”! And we need to look for new formats and approaches. Remote control is a pandemic measure. I myself, at the moment, agree with her, because from the team of teachers where I work, only two have not been ill, and some quite seriously lay on oxygen in the hospital, thinking about the eternal. To the eternal question "What to do?" I will answer that you need to create a cult of intelligence: you can start with TV, instead of idiotic serials a la "Avengers from MUR" season 36, create dozens of scientific and educational programs.
  • Uran53
    Uran53 26 November 2020 22: 08
    0
    Gref's program in all its glory
  • SVD68
    SVD68 26 November 2020 22: 42
    +1
    Fortunately, this is all in the past, because people voted for the amendments to the Constitution. Isn't it the same?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 November 2020 23: 17
      0
      And the main thing that voted is that the 1993 constitution is closed thanks to these amendments.
      1. SVD68
        SVD68 27 November 2020 07: 38
        0
        And life has changed for the better, hasn't it? In the article under discussion, these are the changes for the better.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 November 2020 14: 55
          -5
          This article is full of dregs from Samsonov for one day.
  • Charik
    Charik 27 November 2020 01: 14
    +3
    In my opinion, it has long been transformed and only a Heavenly miracle will help to disenchant. President Putin appears to be a hero father. According to media investigations, he has a bunch of illegitimate children. The external similarity of another daughter is up to 70%. They are all billionaires and multimillionaires. By a happy (accidental) coincidence! - said Gennady. Russia has long been divided between relatives, friends and colleagues of Putin. All of them are billionaires and multimillionaires, owners of "factories, newspapers, ships". Their families are in the West. And 20 million beggars, 80 million living from salary to salary without hope for the best. Am I wrong ?, - ex-FSB colonel Gudkov commented.
  • oracul
    oracul 27 November 2020 06: 51
    +5
    In general, everything is correct. The only trouble is that today the Ministry of Education is a collection of convinced supporters of the digitalization of schools and educational institutions, the Unified State Exam. They have local supporters. At first glance, their intentions are noble, but this is the road to hell, because everything is tested by practice, and it is negative.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 27 November 2020 07: 21
    -1
    The situation is described, the forecast is given. Now two favorite questions, who is to blame and what to do? On the first question, everything rests on V.V. well, or those puppeteers who pull his strings, because he can change ministers and other officials, we have seen this more than once. One answer to the second question will not work here and the need for a change of power, a return to the elements of socialism and a planned economy, the education of their children, transfer of their knowledge to them.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 November 2020 14: 59
      0
      "The need for a change of government, a return to the elements of socialism and a planned economy." The power will change, but you can forget about the rest forever, for social services, and so from the budget of 7 trillion rubles, they spend every year.
  • anclevalico
    anclevalico 27 November 2020 07: 59
    0
    Well, if the reforms were, are and continue, then the authorities want this. What is there to talk about?
  • Hagen
    Hagen 27 November 2020 08: 13
    +1
    The first months of distance learning (distance learning system) showed that it led to a sharp drop in the level of mass education.

    Distance learning is not motivated by a desire to implant new technologies in order to save everyone in the future. This is the answer to the pandemic. If you look at the consequences of this virus, then it is not as safe for children as it seems to many. Even those who underwent it asymptomatically in a mild form can get quite tangible long-lasting complications from it. Somehow unnoticed by public opinion, information passed on the possible negative impact of the virus on the cognitive abilities of children. Yes, distance (forced) learning will leave holes in a child's knowledge, but I think it will be much worse when a child who has suffered a disease loses the ability to fully learn at all. And the Ministry of Education and Science constantly insists that distance education will not replace the traditional school. I would like to note that this is a new phenomenon for Moscow, while in Siberia in the old days, due to weather conditions, schoolchildren simply lost several weeks (up to one and a half months) from the school year. And only with the development of information technologies it became possible to somehow load children in these conditions with the school curriculum.
    To enter a good educational institution, you need additional paid lessons, tutors.

    It has always been that way. And in the USSR, too. In 10th I myself took additional courses at one of the institutes for money, although school performance was always around 4,5. It's just that today, again remotely, you can live in Siberia and study with a teacher from the Moscow region. Moreover, it is very successful. Proven by personal experience.
    Teachers are relegated to the role of servants. Up to people who provide a set of commercial services.

    What is it like? Raised the fallen liberoid idea .... Decipher, what kind of role is this, how does it specifically differ from that of the teaching staff of the 70-80s? In general, the entire article resembles a collection of primitive newspaper headlines. The main thing is to thicken the colors, but no attempt at specifics. Castes, races, slave owners ..... What is not invented, just to humiliate modern Russia and predict its complete insignificance. They quoted Kapitsa's expression ... All the teachers of the older generation complained about the brainlessness of the younger generation who had replaced them. "These youth are corrupted to the core. Young people are insidious and careless. They will never be like the youth of the old days. The younger generation of today will not be able to preserve our culture" - it is written on a pot 3000 years ago. All centuries it was like this ... But the world, nevertheless, lives and moves forward. But be aware of the fact that when you call your (our) children durakami, then you sign your own mistakes in upbringing and inability to manage the processes in your own family. Yes, there are problems, as elsewhere. And we must solve them, but not bury the future of our country.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 27 November 2020 08: 29
    -3
    It is immediately clear that Samsonov. I don’t know, in our country now there is generally an 11-year-old, what other access to education does Samsonov need if the overwhelming majority of the population does not even learn what they are trying to hammer into their heads at school.

    Digital or distance education is an opportunity to get almost all information about a child and his family.


    The author, talk to the old policemen on this topic, they will simply laugh at you, you were under the hood since birth.

    An individual trajectory of digital learning for each student is introduced.


    What is it? The problem of mass education is precisely that it is unrealistic to deal with each one individually. It is actually even more difficult to do this when remotely, just the author has never tried to discuss at least something.

    They do not have free time and money to teach their own children (like in school).


    Well, yes, parents have nothing to do with it. To remove children from families after birth, give numbers instead of names and send them to boarding schools, there for the state. the account will be taught. And then the parents do not cope. Apparently this is the ideal world of Samsonov.
  • Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 27 November 2020 08: 39
    +1
    Give communism! But seriously ... I'm looking at the students ... honey. That then, with the Soviet school, there were fools among them, what now. What were smart then, what now. Nothing has changed at all. So I will disappoint, it is too early to hang up.
  • Galleon
    Galleon 27 November 2020 08: 52
    +1
    Quote: Crowe
    Being a pessimist is amazing. I am always either right or pleasantly surprised

    laughing good You are right, but somehow I did not think about it. That's really really!)))
    Thank you for your wishes! He really got into a good military team, with his own specifics.
  • certero
    certero 27 November 2020 09: 39
    -1
    If someone cannot learn to learn :) remotely, then this is his problem.
    On the contrary, distance education is the way forward. The most skillful and experienced teachers can get more students and people even from the farthest hinterland can get access to knowledge.
    What can not be taught remotely? Even physical education is possible.
    And they just got tired of worrying about testing. Tell me much better the subjective view of the teacher who puts three's because the student does not like him? Or vice versa, five because I like it.
    all the more, whether you like it or not But it is in distance learning that the future is. A person now needs to study all his life and if he acquires such skills already in childhood, then he will live much more comfortably.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 27 November 2020 10: 51
      +5
      If someone cannot learn to learn :) remotely, then this is his problem.


      “What are you worried about these people? Well, thirty million will die out. They did not fit into the market. Do not think about it - new ones will grow. ”
      1. Ronald Reagan
        Ronald Reagan 27 November 2020 11: 42
        -3
        Those who are not inscribed have a big problem - they will have to think with their heads. And, oh horror, take responsibility for yourself. laughing
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 November 2020 15: 07
        -4
        Well, thirty million will die out. They didn't fit into the market. Don't think about it - new ones will grow up. ”You repeat this garbage like you for 30 years in a row - and something doesn't come true for you.
        1. Alf
          Alf 27 November 2020 18: 01
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          Well, thirty million will die out. They didn't fit into the market. Don't think about it - new ones will grow up. ”You repeat this garbage like you for 30 years in a row - and something doesn't come true for you.

          It is coming true, and how, even the official Rosstat admitted.
  • Ge2an
    Ge2an 27 November 2020 09: 41
    -1
    They turn the whole world into fools, and for a long time .. Why is space alone, but the whole story is false .. ??? I generally keep quiet about the earth ball .. And the corona virus only confirms the conspiracy of all the rulers of all countries ..
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 November 2020 15: 08
      -1
      You speak for yourself and not for the whole world.