A presentation of the project of a missile boat "Bogomol" was held in Ukraine

After the signing of a memorandum of intention of Britain to build missile boats for Ukraine, Kiev began to offer various options and projects for construction, including domestic development. As Defense Express writes, the Nikolaev designers have proposed a project of a small missile boat on an air cushion "Praying mantis".

The design bureau said that in the design process they studied the world experience of creating similar ships in Norway, Sweden, the United States and China.

The new project of a small missile boat received the code "Praying mantis" and number 58208. According to the project, the total displacement of the boat will be 145 tons with a length of 33, a width of 12 and a draft of 1,4 meters. A Ukrainian-made 3500 kW gas turbine is proposed as a power plant, which will provide a maximum speed of about 50 knots. The cruising range will be 600 miles at a speed of 37 knots, the crew is 12 people.

As a weapon, it is proposed to install the Ukrainian anti-ship complex PK-360 consisting of two missiles of the R-360 "Neptune" type, one 30-mm gun mount of the AK-306 type, which is available in the Ukrainian Navy, or a 40-mm gun mount Light Forty of the Italian company LEONARDO.

The boat is designed to search for and defeat surface ships, boats and vessels used for military transport of the enemy and conduct tactical reconnaissance, carrying out combat and special duty.

The main areas of combat use of the boat are named "open waters" of the Black Sea-Azov basin, navigable rivers and inland water bodies of Ukraine during the period of active navigation (without freeze-up) in the coastal areas.

Comments

[APASUS]

What they did not understand in Ukraine is that the determining opinion will be for the creditor. It is the British who will offer the Ukrainians a choice of a couple of their projects, and not Ukraine will exhibit their projects. And the accompanying weapons and equipment will most likely also be British.

[Orange bigg]

A presentation of the project of a missile boat "Bogomol" was held in Ukraine

The name Balobol would fit much better as a description of everything that is happening in the Ukrainian shipbuilding. There are many plans, but in fact there is no need to.

[Bykov.]

Quote: OrangeBigg

A presentation of the project of a missile boat "Bogomol" was held in Ukraine

The name Balobol would fit much better as a description of everything that is happening in the Ukrainian shipbuilding. There are many plans, but in fact there is no need to.

"Praying mantis".

[Kuroneko]

Here it is more interesting:

The new project of a small missile boat received the code "Praying mantis" and number 58208.

What about NATO standards? They still use the Soviet numbering system for ship projects.

[Andylw]

the project has already been chosen
barzan is called

[Orange bigg]

What is the name of the project?

[Oleg Shulga]

No. The British propose another project

[RUSS]

Quote: APASUS

And the accompanying weapons and equipment are likely to be British too.

Patrol boats of project 03160 or "Raptor" are a series of Russian high-speed patrol boats of the coastal zone.
The engine room is located aft of the vessel, according to the manufacturer, it is equipped with two American turbodiesels CATERPILLAR C18 ACERT E-rating (1150 hp at 2300 rpm, working volume 18,1 liters, configuration of the cylinder block - L6), then there is a clutch mechanism, the so-called clutch, followed by a shaft line for jet English-made propellers Rolls-Royce Kamewa 36A3 HS

[APASUS]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: APASUS

And the accompanying weapons and equipment are likely to be British too.

Patrol boats of project 03160 or "Raptor" are a series of Russian high-speed patrol boats of the coastal zone.
The engine room is located aft of the vessel, according to the manufacturer, it is equipped with two American turbodiesels CATERPILLAR C18 ACERT E-rating (1150 hp at 2300 rpm, working volume 18,1 liters, configuration of the cylinder block - L6), then there is a clutch mechanism, the so-called clutch, followed by a shaft line for jet English-made propellers Rolls-Royce Kamewa 36A3 HS

Do we owe money for equipment or the British built ships for us, maybe they asked for a loan from the British, why did you write this? For our money we can afford to buy engines even from Zanzabar, and for credit we can only dream for free

[Andylw]

toothy boat

[neri73-r]

Quote: AndyLW

toothy boat

Paper can't be toothy! And the drawing is yeaaaa, toothy!

[Dodikson]

than toothy?
2 subsonic copies of the Kh-35?

[ANB]

... 2 subsonic copies of the Kh-35?

Oh, well, they will be redrawn on hypersonic x100035 with AI and a range of 5000 km. And it will be toothy. :)

[Incvizitor]

They also have the same tank with a toothy

And boats "doe" also "are".

[sivuch]

toothy boat
that's for sure . gobble up the entire budget for naval needs

[cat Rusich]

Quote: AndyLW

toothy boat

Not on that the mouth will open - you have to go to the "dentist" or to the "pathologist"

[Growlers]

Wealthy fool with a dummy ..... Interestingly, "a gas turbine with a capacity of 3500 kW of Ukrainian production is offered as a power plant" and at what plant will it be produced? However, the owners will not allow

[Rubi0]

In the same Nikolaev and turbines and gearboxes, and a lot of other things. Poroshenko really tried to ditch them in order to annoy the Russian Federation with import substitution, but enterprises are still breathing

[Growlers]

Well, if the state is the same as that of the Krivoy Rog Turbine Plant, then the flag is in their hands, the turbine will have to wait a long time

[Incvizitor]

Nikolaev shipyard on April 24, 2018 the enterprise was put up for sale for debts on wages

At the end of August 2017, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Rogozin recalled how in 2013, on behalf of Vladimir Putin, he traveled to Nikolaev to discuss prospects for cooperation.

“We were greeted very warmly. We agreed on a plan of cooperation. A month later, the active phase of the Kiev putsch began, and all our hopes for the revival of close economic ties with Ukraine, and with them the last chance of shipbuilding in Ukraine to rise - all this died, - quotes Rogozin "RIA Novosti". “Our Ukrainian colleagues no longer see any other perspective, how to carry coffee for the US Marines in Ochakov.”

[Rubi0]

If he was there alone it would be possible ... And so the largest agricultural holding Nibulon with its shipyard owned by Rusaphob Vadatursky is already aiming at the construction of French patrol boats. And billions of money from grain and Russophobia in total can give results.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Have they made at least a couple of turbines in 7 years?

[Oleg Shulga]

Well, you can ask the Indians ... they just recently supplied turbines to the new destroyers Visakhapatnam

[orionvitt]

Quote: Rubi0

but enterprises are still breathing

Breathe, then they still breathe, but ... Asthmatic and tuberculosis sufferers, they even walk with difficulty, but they seem to be still breathing.

[Ensign19]

"Zarya-Mashproekt", plant "Equator", Zeppelin-Ukraine, "Hamilton Jet"

[Reviews]

"a gas turbine with a capacity of 3500 kW of Ukrainian production is proposed as a power plant" and at which plant will it be produced?

Quote: Ensign19

Zeppelin-Ukraine, "Hamilton Jet"

Hmm ...

Zeppelin Ukraine is a company that supplies industrial, agricultural and construction equipment. It is part of ZEPPELIN GmbH - a German industrial concern, represented in 20 countries around the world in the field of dealership and production.
For Sale:
Equipment for pre-sowing soil cultivation - plows, harrows, cultivators.
Sowing and planting equipment - general purpose and precision seeders, seedlings and potato planting machines.
Irrigation and irrigation equipment - sprinklers and watering machines.
Distributors, spreaders.
Harvesting equipment - mowers, reapers, combines.
Animal husbandry equipment - processing of forage crops, animal care.
Land reclamation machines.
Auxiliary equipment.

HamiltonJet is a world renowned manufacturer of water jet propulsion systems

[Ensign19]

In the article, everything is described who, in the event of the start of production, and what will produce.
"Zeppelin" and "Hamilton" calculated the stroke rate in two modes and selected water cannons from "Hamilton Jet" with agreed characteristics for reducers and a gas turbine from "Zarya" - "Mashproekt."
Zeppelin selected a diesel generator and drive motors for blower fans from the Equator plant

[Reviews]

Quote: Ensign19

In the article, everything is described who, in the event of the start of production, and what will produce.
"Zeppelin" and "Hamilton" calculated the stroke rate in two modes and selected water cannons from "Hamilton Jet" with agreed characteristics for reducers and a gas turbine from "Zarya" - "Mashproekt."
Zeppelin selected a diesel generator and drive motors for blower fans from the Equator plant

Well, they would give a link to the article, or they would answer right away, otherwise, to the question about the turbine, you list the agricultural supplier and the water jet.

[Ensign19]

Administration warned about links to enemy sites

[Reviews]

Quote: Ensign19

Administration warned about links to enemy sites

or would you answer so immediately

[Oleg Shulga]

"and at what plant it will be produced" - of course at Zorya-Mashproekt. You have almost all ships with their turbines, if you don't know.

[Ensign19]

In the original of the article, complete the performance characteristics

[7,62x54]

Well, that missile carrier will appear at the raguli.

[evgen1221]

Significantly named - the sailors apparently in the kit are invited to pray intensely so that they do not get it like with the Hammer!)))

[evgen1221]

And also the TPK in the starting position is somehow located in a country-and the deck will not burn out at launch? Although this is a paper tiger, and so it will do! As the cartoon character used to say.

[Mountain shooter]

It resembles a tank project. "Tirex" seems to be ... Some kind of dobrobat developed ...
Paper is paper ...

[cniza]

A presentation of the project of a missile boat "Bogomol" was held in Ukraine

It seems to me that this is a wishlist, not a project ...

[novel66]

but didn’t understand, where is the air cushion? regular catamaran

[cniza]

Apparently they invented the catamaran on a pillow ...

[novel66]

it's good to invent on the pillow

[cniza]

Uh-huh, and not such a dream, dreamers ...

[Reviews]

Quote: cniza

Apparently they invented the catamaran on a pillow ...

It was invented long ago. Even under the USSR. Maybe not in the USSR itself.

[cniza]

Yes, there is one:

RKVP project 1239 has unique qualities. On the one hand, it is a stable catamaran capable of moving at speeds up to 20 knots, on the other, a fast hovercraft with a maximum speed of over 50 knots. With a displacement of only 1050 tons, the total power of the propulsion systems is 56 hp. Two diesel engines with a capacity of 000 hp. for movement in catamaran mode and two gas turbine units for movement on an air cushion, with a total capacity of 10 hp.

[Reviews]

Quote: cniza

Yes, there is one:

Uh-huh.
It is interesting that if we take into account only the gas turbine engine, then their power-to-weight ratio is the same - 24 kW / t.

[Reviews]

Quote: novel xnumx

where is the air cushion? regular catamaran

Here it is between the buildings. This is a skeg boat. A kind of "pillow".

[Ensign19]

This is called a platform with aerostatic unloading (PACSCAT). The same catamaran is only blown into the interhull void by fans, and two flexible fences are installed in the bow and stern.

[Dante Alighieri]

The first thought when looking at the project: boys, where are the missiles? Then he looked closely, saw ... Well, what can I say somehow scanty, especially considering that their Neptune, that our Uranus, and this on the RK of Soviet-Russian construction, manage to cram in an amount of 8 to 16 units. And here there are only 2 missiles. Even the Chinese, with an eye on whom this project was made, have 22 YJ-8 subsonic missiles on Type 83 boats. Yeah ... what to say comrades engineers: you can! You can! But there is an inflatable boat and a shield for the 7,62 / 12,7 machine guns. With pleasure I will look at how machine gunners will begin to dive behind these shields, especially in the complete absence of rails, but at full speed, washed by the water spray of the winter Black Sea. And if there are no machine gunners and everything will be implemented remotely, then a reasonable question arises: why then are shields needed?

[Ros 56]

Well, let them now pray to God for money and timing of production.

[Incvizitor]

Tomos, God they sold

[Viktor Sergeev]

I wonder what time this picture has become for the Ukrainian budget? It's time for dreamers to understand: nothing that is drawn on paper will never be done and put into service.

[Oleg Shulga]

Nivoskolko) The project was done for their own money, pictures are completely free of charge)))

[TermNachTer]

They are very keen to draw pictures))) they have been building the corvette "Vladimir the Great" in Nikolaev for more than 10 years, now the construction has stopped, it must be understood from ideological considerations, because many people associate "Vladimir the Great" very strongly with Vladimir Putin)))

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: TermNachTER

must be understood from ideological considerations, because many people associate "Vladimir the Great" very strongly with Vladimir Putin)))

Tse great zrada This is Putin's cunning plan

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Also under the Crimean bridge, will hesitate?

[_Oplot_]

Hurray-patriots, you also said about the coastal complex Neptune (yes they won't, but there is no money, etc.), if they appear, then it will be more than difficult for the Russian Black Sea Fleet, given that there will be Neptune on the Praying Mantis, and this, in the event of an attack, 100% hits an enemy ship, besides, the coastal complexes of Neptune are already available. We continue to laugh ...

[Vladimir61]

Quote: _Oplot_

if they appear, then it will be more than difficult for the Russian Black Sea Fleet

If it’s just “difficult” for you, with Russia, then it’s better to stay at the pier, not to mention “more than difficult”!

[Lord of the Sith]

Boat "Zvezdobol"))
As always, they will build two and a half pieces, and come up with another crap to cut the budget))

[petrol cutter]

I didn't quite understand what the air cushion is ...
Presumably this is a skeg KVP. With water jet propellers.
But, to create VP-, superchargers are needed. I, frankly, did not make out in the picture - where they are and through which holes, in fact, they will take thousands of liters of air from the atmosphere every minute ...

[Oleg Shulga]

You should probably look at the original article ... here is a 10 times cut version)

[petrol cutter]

Also visited this question.
And where exactly are they going to build them?
Usually, such products are mainly built from AMg. Because pulling steel out of water is a utopia.
Steamships of such a plan in UA, as far as I know, were built at my factory (and I am not UA) and there was talk that Kherson (but this is not certain). It is possible that he already died a long time ago.
Does UA have competence in the construction of light-alloy / high-speed ships?

[Oleg Shulga]

Yes there is. Including on Nibulon

[alex neym_2]

Quote: OrangeBigg

A presentation of the project of a missile boat "Bogomol" was held in Ukraine

The name Balobol would fit much better as a description of everything that is happening in the Ukrainian shipbuilding. There are many plans, but in fact there is no need to.

foolish dumkoy grows rich! what is slipped from the foggy albion, then they will build (if there are more ...)

[sgr291158]

Another dream that is not destined to come true.

[Oleg Shulga]

"After the signing of a memorandum of intention of Britain to build missile boats for Ukraine, Kiev began to offer various options and projects for construction, including domestic development." - this is initially a delusional and far-fetched statement - projects of the Republic of Kazakhstan of various tonnages have been developed since 2014. Projects of 4 types of boats were ready a year ago, long before the British proposal. It's just that the topic was not exaggerated.