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Duo of robots: in Turkey showed a special way to evacuate the wounded

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Against the background of the undoubted success of attack UAVs during the latest military escalation in Karabakh, the Turkish defense industry continues to work on the creation of drones for various functional purposes.


Thus, Elektroland Defense has transformed the BOĞAÇ multipurpose ground platform with remote control into an unmanned vehicle for the evacuation of the wounded. It acts as a delivery vehicle for the victims, while the robot sapper TMR-II is used to place them on the platform, since the manipulators with which it is equipped allow it to operate with the wounded. This mine clearance technique has allegedly already proven itself in Libya. Now TMR-II is to be tested in a new quality.

As the developer expects, in the event of a threat to rescue teams, the BOĞAÇ platform will be sent to the victim. The drone operator will remotely lower the stretcher to the ground, and the remotely controlled "sapper" TMR-II will place the victim on them. Such a duo of robots.

There is no other ready-made example of this new concept in the world.
- says the publication Defense Turk, meaning the "duet" of two robots of different functionality.

As indicated, the TMR-II control range is 2 km, the operating time is two hours.

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  1. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 24 November 2020 10: 33
    -1
    A few questions:
    1. Does the robot know how to recognize the human bodies of the dead and maneuver between them, or kneads the wheels directly to the wounded?
    2. Does the robot know how to clean up the battlefield from compromising evidence? For example, collect smartphones, documents, insignia. That would not betray the participation of terrorists.
    1. V1er
      V1er 24 November 2020 10: 35
      +1
      Yes, they are controlled by the remote control, it is immediately obvious. Such an intelligence system has not yet been invented automatically.
  2. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 24 November 2020 10: 35
    +6
    If the wounded person is under fire, the enemy will immediately smash this thing. If not, then let the comrades put him on a stretcher. If a person is left alone, and cannot independently climb onto a stretcher, then this cuttlefish will rather finish him off than save him. However, also a chance ...
    The value of a mobile platform is to get people off the front line quickly. So it makes sense to focus on the delivery section between the forward and the ambulance. In general, the thing is far from perfect. However, progress in the field of salvaging the wounded is very noticeable. A worthy try in the right direction.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 24 November 2020 10: 42
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail3
      If the wounded person is under fire, the enemy will immediately smash this thing.

      ... and will spend time and some of the ammunition on it, instead of firing at unaffected fighters. Distracted.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 24 November 2020 10: 43
        +1
        You can wave your hat) The result will be the same. Only a little cheaper.
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 24 November 2020 10: 46
          +1
          Quote: Mikhail3
          You can wave your hat)

          Well, if only to cheer up the enemy ...
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 24 November 2020 10: 49
            -1
            Well, let me explain, since it is so tight for you. If you are interested in mechanized distraction of the enemy, and it would be better if he did not increase the fire in the direction of the wounded, it makes sense to make cheap fake models. And not to burn down powerful efficient machines. Is that clearer?
            1. Reviews
              Reviews 24 November 2020 10: 56
              +2
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Well, let me explain, since it is so tight for you. If you are interested in mechanized distraction of the enemy, and it would be better if he did not increase the fire in the direction of the wounded, it makes sense to make cheap fake models. And not to burn down powerful efficient machines. Is that clearer?

              Yes, it's not for me, but for you. I will explain in plain text, since you are so double-bit: the enemy will not even spend resources on this gibberish. If it were a lively orderly, there would be at least some sense.
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 24 November 2020 11: 07
                -1
                !? Athas. The enemy will not waste resources on enemy military equipment? Everything is wiser and wiser, right up to the whistle ...
                1. Reviews
                  Reviews 24 November 2020 11: 23
                  +3
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  !? Athas. The enemy will not waste resources on enemy military equipment? Everything is wiser and wiser, right up to the whistle ...

                  He has enough other problems. This is not an infantry fighting vehicle or artillery. If you are such a slow-witted, then here is even more transparent: such a cocktail will be at least bulletproof and anti-fragmentation. What will you "blame"? To order anti-tank artillery for the sake of one wounded and a penny machine, from which you are neither hot nor cold now? Or spend an RPG shot, for which there will soon be a more dangerous target?
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 24 November 2020 14: 04
                    -1
                    Quote: Avis
                    He has enough other problems.

                    Get there ...
                    1. Reviews
                      Reviews 24 November 2020 14: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      Quote: Avis
                      He has enough other problems.

                      Get there ...

                      You forgot to move the mirror.
      2. stalki
        stalki 24 November 2020 11: 29
        0
        ..and will spend time and some of the ammunition on it, instead of firing at the soldiers who have not yet been hit. Distracted.
        Some with special cynicism will simply finish off the wounded.
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 24 November 2020 11: 34
          +2
          Quote: stalki
          Some with special cynicism will simply finish off the wounded.

          Well, to such categories of humanity are inapplicable and in this case may not be taken into account.
          However, everywhere they write that in WWI and WWII, the wounded enemy is "more profitable" than the killed one: the wounded must be evacuated, substituting the personnel for the bullets, and the dead will lie down anyway.
          1. stalki
            stalki 24 November 2020 11: 38
            -1

            Well, to such categories of humanity are inapplicable and in this case may not be taken into account.
            However, everywhere they write that in WWI and WWII, the wounded enemy is "more profitable" than the killed one: the wounded must be evacuated, substituting the personnel for the bullets, and the dead will lie down anyway.
            Well, also an option.
    2. V1er
      V1er 24 November 2020 10: 42
      +5
      You can use unmanned tracked platforms to transfer cargo as part of a group. It must also be equipped with a stretcher in case of evacuation of a person.

      For example, the situation is a wounded man. In order not to call another group or not to use the transport, you load it onto such a device and set a pre-checked route. Further, the machine automatically takes the person away. Then he comes back, for example, already with cartridges. This is the only way I see it. Making a robot that would load itself or be controlled remotely is too expensive and not realistic.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 24 November 2020 10: 47
        0
        Impossible in army conditions. "Now is not a war." The platform will not pass everywhere where people pass. She runs out of fuel at the most unexpected moment for supplies. She breaks down. If you leave her for at least five minutes, she will rip off seven skins from you, and you will have to throw her anywhere in any exercises! And it will mysteriously disappear, or self-sort into small parts, which will go away on their own in an unknown direction. In general, the smut will be incredible, as if the army lacks it anyway.
        1. V1er
          V1er 24 November 2020 10: 48
          +1
          I agree that we must first raise the level of the army itself, its supplies and funding, and only then work on such issues.
        2. V1er
          V1er 24 November 2020 11: 03
          0
          The platform will not pass everywhere where people pass.

          I didn’t talk about new territories. There must be a programmed route, previously explored and verified. No obstacles. If such a route is in the rear, no one dares to disassemble the robot, you can place a camera that transmits a 360-degree image in real time (the robot can already serve as a scout). If the route is on the front line, then excesses are possible, but ordinary freight transport is not insured against this either. I do not understand what the problem is, because groups, like the entire army, do not work alone, if there is an attack on the route along which goods and wounded are transported, it will immediately become known who did it.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 24 November 2020 11: 05
            -1
            Quote: V1er
            no one dares to disassemble the robot

            What kind of universe are you from ?! Inter-world invaders should not insert their five kopecks into discussions about our armies, since they do not even know how they work! Even in the US Army, such a platform will not have time to make one route ...
            1. V1er
              V1er 24 November 2020 11: 08
              0
              Even in the US Army, such a platform will not have time to make one route.

              If everything is so bad that we can't even control the supply routes, then what difference does it make if it's a robot or a regular truck? According to you, 100% will attack. And I will answer - there is a difference. A man sits in the truck, and the robot does this work itself. For this, they came up with everything. Previously, it was necessary to count as pieces of wood, and people were transported on horses. But progress is towards automation. Expensive? Yes. But this is the future. And from your words, it doesn't matter whether it's a horse or transport - everything will be bad.
              What kind of universe are you from ?!

              From ours. Can you please not be rude?
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 24 November 2020 14: 19
                0
                They will not attack, but plunder. Their own, yeah. "Soldier's ingenuity" will be used. Well I say, if I have not been to our Universe, the arguments about our armies are ridiculous and wild.
                1. V1er
                  V1er 24 November 2020 15: 33
                  0
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  They will not attack, but plunder.

                  It is not excluded) But I propose to deliver such robots to the elite units of the special forces, and not to the conscript army. If a car is stolen, which delivers supplies and takes away the wounded, you need to punish according to the laws of wartime. This is exactly the theft of a truck with a driver.
            2. V1er
              V1er 24 November 2020 11: 10
              0
              I also want to note that I'm not talking about a large-scale war, with Poland or Ukraine, or even the United States, but about the work of groups in a guerrilla conflict, such as Syria and Chechnya.
  3. Egoza
    Egoza 24 November 2020 10: 45
    +4
    Yes, no one can replace OUR HEROES !!!

    Nurse runs across the field, call Tamarka, everything is in order,
    With a large enema in the hands, three-liter from constipation.
    Afanasy runs across the field 7 by 8, 8 by 7
    in large tarpaulin boots, 45, on bare feet, so as not to rub under the arm.
    And I am guys, IIIIIishka, 16-20-30 years old, maybe more, I’m lying with a vidirvana leg, my jaw is next to it, my nose is in my pocket, I pretend it hurts, it hurts, it hurts a lot
    1. Avior
      Avior 24 November 2020 11: 53
      0
      Yes, there was a story with a call ...

      smile
  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 November 2020 11: 07
    +1
    I sympathize with the one who portrayed the wounded. As he was first put, he would not have entered the envelope with his shoulder, or even would have fallen from the mattress. And as a result - 2 operators, 2 devices where 1 medical instructor could handle faster and better. And such movements only provoke to throw there at least a few mines from a mortar.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 24 November 2020 11: 32
      +3
      And as a result - 2 operators, 2 devices where 1 medical instructor could handle faster and better.
      I completely agree, especially if that orderly is given any technique
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 24 November 2020 11: 37
        +2
        What do you mean "even such"? TPK is an absolutely fantastic all-terrain vehicle of the battlefield. The only thing in which it is theoretically inferior to the Turkish drone is smoothness (the Turk still has 3 axles). It is smaller in size, the speed is much higher, the maneuverability is excellent, it floats, the nurse-driver can control it lying down and even "remotely" laughing (crawl alongside and turn the steering wheel). All this was practiced by the medical personnel while the TPK was in service. It's just that the engine is difficult to configure.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 24 November 2020 11: 44
          0
          What do you mean "even such"? TPK is an absolutely fantastic all-terrain vehicle of the battlefield.
          Gee)))) I know, at the very same! And 969 more. About three axes - so we also had a "geologist" (LUAZ 1901) in tests. Yes, it's a pity I didn't go into the series - there was no suitable dvigla in the Union. But now there is !!! Why don't we ???
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 24 November 2020 11: 49
            +2
            We do not do it, since the plant is killed, the engine is ZAZ, so this is also a question. An interesting one was the "Geologist" 1901 with a 51 hp diesel engine. laughing
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 24 November 2020 11: 57
              0
              The plant is nonsense and excuses. The 969 was assembled in different versions even in Moscow. It seems the company was called Violetta ??? I do not remember exactly. My (967) first dvigun had a 27hp motorcycle. like a disabled woman. I changed the same 27hp for a Chinese diesel. For hunting and fishing enough. And now 50hp is not a question for the state at all. The only thing is that the entire LUAZ line is the record holder for maintenance. Some wheel reducers are worth something. But as for TPK, this should be enough.
              1. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat 24 November 2020 11: 59
                +1
                Agree smile
                The most difficult thing now is to substantiate the need for such an apparatus for people who have only dollars and MRPs in their eyes. And they don't understand what is needed where and why
  5. Ge2an
    Ge2an 24 November 2020 11: 15
    +1
    Yes it is so .. But who prevented Russia from living at the expense of Europe .. ???
  6. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 24 November 2020 12: 19
    +1
    The feasibility of manipulating body movements is questionable.
    If this wounded person is not able to roll over on a stretcher on his own or there is no person nearby who will help him, then most likely the injuries are very serious if first medical aid is not provided, he is already dead or will die during manipulations or on the way. The manipulator is most likely shown here to a heap, as it is in this complex for demining.

    If this hand is thrown away, then everything becomes more realistic. For example, a small unit came under fire. There are several wounded, several such carts arrive, the wounded who received first aid are loaded onto them and everyone quickly leaves.

    The alternative would be to drag several stretchers (which must be taken somewhere else), for example 2-5 kilometers. This option has real benefits.

    With a manipulator, what is shown in the video is rather a sadder story, when you need to pick up a murdered person.
    From an area that could be under fire.

    An alternative to this risky task will be entrusted to people.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 24 November 2020 16: 44
      +2
      The manipulator is most likely shown here to a heap, as it is in this complex for demining.

      That's it.
      to place them on the platform, the robot sapper TMR-II is used, since the manipulators with which it is equipped allow it to operate with the wounded.

      They just try on the concept, took the first device with a manipulator that came across to see what it lacks. And this will be taken into account when developing a real "orderly": a different claw (or a completely different form factor), a different number, location ... And the silhouette, for sure, will be lower.
  7. Ensign19
    Ensign19 24 November 2020 14: 40
    -1
    The direction is correct, the execution is still awkward
  8. Maks1995
    Maks1995 24 November 2020 15: 22
    +1
    Pure advertising joke. Like many similar videos.

    But for universal assistants it will probably do.
  9. ximkim
    ximkim 24 November 2020 17: 22
    +2
    It is still a bull, but the Turks are burning with ideas about drones. Over time, they will bring to mind, a necessary thing.