China successfully launched the Chang'e-5 lunar mission into orbit

China has begun the implementation of the next lunar mission, sending the automatic station "Chang'e-5" to the natural satellite of the Earth. The heavy launch vehicle Changzheng-5 (Long March 5) was launched from the Wenchang cosmodrome on Hainan Island.

According to the Chinese National Space Administration (CNSA), the rocket was launched in a normal mode, after the estimated time, the launch vehicle launched the Chang'e-5 automatic reentry vehicle into orbit. After a series of maneuvers, the device will enter the flight path to the natural satellite of the Earth. The mission of the station is to land in the region of the Ocean of Storms in the western part of the visible side of the Moon, collect about two kilograms of lunar soil and deliver it to Earth.

The delivered soil is planned to be studied both for scientific purposes and as part of a project to prepare for the construction of a Chinese lunar research base.

Landing "Chang'e-5" is scheduled for November 29, on the lunar surface, the device will spend two lunar days, after which it will go back. The landing of the descent vehicle with the capsule is scheduled for December 15-16 in northern China in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region.

As stated in Beijing, if this lunar mission is successful, China will become the third country in the world after Russia (USSR) and the United States to deliver lunar soil to Earth.

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[Trevis]

Let them see if the Merikos were on the moon. Are there traces from the soles.

[Harry.km]

Quote: Trevis

Let them see if the Merikos were on the moon. Are there traces from the soles.

Why would the Chinese need it? Speculation on this topic will feed for another 50 years. In case of aggravation of relations, the Chinese will also be able to declare that they did not observe any traces of landing-start when approaching ... And in case of warming, say that they sat down in another area. ))

[Infinity]

In "Chang'e-5", judging by the mission profile, such a task was not laid, since the orbital module will be in orbit for about two weeks, a spacecraft launched from the Moon with samples will dock to it and they will fly to Earth. The lunar landing module will land thousands of kilometers (Rumker Peak) from all Apollo landing points.

But the Chinese had the Chang'e-2 station. She has a camera with a resolution of 10 meters, which is very small, so they did not make any plans. But suddenly for everyone, the head of CLEP Yang Yong said that they got traces of the Americans. After that, a photo was published on the CLEP portal, from which it is clear that we are talking about the so-called. "diffusion wake" from the activity of astronauts and the operation of the engines of the modules. This is a change in the brightness of the lunar surface. And this is all that can be obtained, so it did not cause much excitement.
Here is a comparison of one of those photos with a photo from LRO, whose LROC camera is many times better than the Chinese one. However, characteristic traces are visible (Apollo 16):

[donavi49]

Now there are no problems with this. Thanks to certain successes (Photon at Electron) - the lunar rocket costs 7-7,5 million dollars. Again, thanks to the photon, you can save on the satellite, throwing out all life activities, and moreover, the Photon can be used as a repeater, and this will also save weight and costs. A student garbage boat with a good camera in a suicidal low orbit with a fall will generally solve this problem.

If earlier it was 100 + million to fly and scout. Now it is $ 10 million. It remains to collect denyushku and run.

[Mikhalych]

[Quote] Let them see if the Merikos were on the moon. Are there traces from the soles.

[Servisinzhener]

I doubt very much that such a task was set for the creators of this device. For the reason that China does not watch pseudoscientific films on Ren-TV.

[impostor]

do not watch pseudoscientific films on the Ren-TV channel

If there are still relics that are watching a zombie box, then what else should they look at the hell? Guamnovefire or what?

[Civil]

The Communists of the PRC, before our very eyes, have not only made their country's economy a world leader, but are also rapidly mastering space. So far, one neighboring capitalist country of the 3rd world, having spent all the backlog from the USSR, successfully promises.

[spirit]

In communism, there is no private property, private production and billionaires), so in China there is little left of communism and they are ahead just because they managed to rebuild. And we have just the opposite 80% of the state economy and mines of the private sector, although this economy is in the private hands of Pu's friends, so here it is more feudalism than capitalism)

[Odysseus]

Quote: spirit

In communism, there is no private property, private production and billionaires), so in China there is little left of communism and they are ahead just because they managed to rebuild. And we have just the opposite 80% of the state economy and mines of the private sector, although this economy is in the private hands of Pu's friends, so here it is more feudalism than capitalism)

The Communist Party is not Communism.
Little is left of Communism - the phrase does not make sense, there was no transition to the Communist formation.
State property in the form of joint stock companies has nothing to do with public property under socialism (not Communism).
The PRC, in the sense of the USSR, was not "rebuilt" anywhere. More precisely, there were such tendencies at the end of the party leadership in the 80s, but they did not prevail. Otherwise, the PRC would have suffered the fate of the USSR.
The use of the world market opportunities (beneficial for the PRC) has nothing to do with perestroika in the sense of the USSR.

[spirit]

Has, does not have, the party is not a party) but call China even a sultanate, even a caliphate, the point is that this is a world factory with a pronounced capitalist system (original but capitalist) has no doubts.
The DPRK is also a democracy and there is even a president (though already deceased), but this does not make it a democratic state

[Odysseus]

Quote: spirit

Has, has not, the party is not a party)

I just pointed out to you your mistakes in the theory (formational) that you are trying to apply. Mistakes, excuse me, are self-evident, a citizen wrote about the successes of the Communists of the PRC, and you, in response, write to him about the fact that in China "there is little left of Communism", well, etc.
The bottom line is that your application of the formation theory does not correspond to its essence and meaning. Neither in the form in which the classics presented it, nor in the modern one. There is nothing terrible or offensive in this, you can learn a theory, or you can simply not apply it. Moreover, the proponents of capitalism now prefer other methodologies.

Quote: spirit

the point is that this is a world factory with a pronounced capitalist system (original but capitalist) has no doubts.

I have no doubt that you think so, but alas, not always what you think is true.

Quote: spirit

The DPRK is also a democracy and there is even a president (though already deceased), but this does not make it a democratic state

This is from the same opera. The fact that it seems correct to you on the basis of textbooks of the modern Russian Federation rewriting boring to nausea Western mass cultural propaganda is not at all true. First: what is democracy? If - the power of the people (as is usually understood in a simple way in Russia, although there are other interpretations), then the DPRK is much more democratic than, for example, the United States.
Then what kind of people? What are the people? If the working people are one thing, if the people of the owners are completely different.

[Vadim237]

"The Communists of the PRC, before our very eyes, have not only made their country's economy a world leader." Of course they did - with the help of the same numerous industries and financial injections of the West into the Chinese economy since the 70s. They did not have an arms race and did not feed China to 120 countries of the world at its own expense, as the USSR did, and their planned economy collapsed in the same 70s.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Trevis

Let them see if the Merikos were on the moon. Are there traces from the soles.

It could have been seen for a long time. Wikipedia writes that the Americans have been to the moon 6 times. In addition to the trodden steps, their lunar cars, on which they rode, in 3 expeditions should remain there! And also there should be landing modules that were not taken from there!
So there should have been a lot of things left after the Lunar Americans!

[astepanov]

Quote: Trevis

Let them see if the Merikos were on the moon. Are there traces from the soles.

You give advice late. Before the start, they would have hurried in advance - the Chinese would definitely have obeyed. After all, the main scientific task of the century is to find out whether mattresses were on the moon. However, in any case, a howl would have risen, they say, the Chinese conspired with the Americans and they themselves filmed the landing in their Hollywood.
How did you conspiracy theorists please everyone!

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: astepanov

How did you conspiracy theorists please everyone!

This is still on the site of the adherents of the "Free Energy" sect, and in general, from the bright freaks only gridasov.

[RVAPatriot]

They will look there so that the rest will ... wait an example

[alma]

Here are the Chinese fellows! Set a goal and go.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: alma

Here are the Chinese fellows! Set a goal and go.

There is someone to set a goal and achieve it.

[Cosm22]

Yeah...
One can only envy the progress and pace of development of the Chinese comrades in the field of cosmonautics.
It is interesting to observe the mission, we wish it success.
But it is certainly not the main focus. China will focus its main efforts on creating its own orbital station. After the successful launch of the modernized heavy launch vehicle Long March 5B (Changzheng-5B), which is capable of throwing 22 tons of PN at LEO, the mission becomes feasible (there are also Long March 2F and Long March 7 launch vehicles in stock). So we are waiting for 2022. In China, the disease of large-scale Rogozin shifts to the right is not observed.

[Vadim237]

Our space achievements will begin after 2023. When they start testing the first stage SV Wing, Soyuz 5, Angara 5, manned Eagle and the rest.

[Uncle lee]

China will become the third country in the world

"Dashingly dumped on the rapids
In two strokes to the middle - oh, I'm a rascal! "

[tralflot1832]

The Americans shuddered. We are waiting for free loans from America to China, these can check if there is an American flag on Mars, ugh on the moon.

[Pilot]

Hello to our Belka and Strelka ..and pass it on to Rogozin too ...

[Alien From]

They want to bring two kilos of soil to the ground ... hmm, let them learn from mattresses, wave a test tube ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Alien From

They want to bring two kilos of soil to the ground ..

Yes! And NASA has already said it expects the Chinese to share soil, samples, etc. straight with the whole world (but, most importantly, the USA)

[kig]

Hey, conspiracy theorists! A new topic has appeared! Well, quickly explain to us why this is impossible.

[slipped]

The Chinese are trying to keep up. Successful delivery of lunar soil to China. In the meantime, we have installed a manipulator complex on Luna-25, which is preparing for launch in the fall of next year, which ensures the intake of lunar rock at the landing site with a bucket from a depth of 15-30 cm and transfers it to a special analyzer for research on place in composition. We will watch the ice on the moon after landing.

[Cosm22]

We also wish the Luna-25 project a successful implementation, but nevertheless it is an incomparable thing in comparison with the Chinese mission. This is just an attempt to somehow repeat the success of the USSR with the Luna-16-24 projects. And then in a far truncated form.
The Chang'e-5 mission is unique. Nobody has ever done this. This is a kind of miniature variation of the Apollo flight.
China did not follow the path of the USSR, i.e. refused to return the capsule in a straight trajectory without course correction. Instead, he provided an element for docking the take-off module with the orbiter in orbit. In addition, after the capsule with the soil is moved to the return module, the takeoff module will still have to be undocked.
The project is, of course, daunting. The Chang'e-5 spacecraft had to be made of four modules: an orbiter, a return capsule, a lander and a take-off module, which brought its weight to 8,2 tons.

[slipped]

Quote: Cosm22

We also wish the Luna-25 project a successful implementation, but nevertheless this is an incomparable thing in comparison with the Chinese mission. This is just an attempt to somehow repeat the success of the USSR with the Luna-16-24 projects.

Lying is bad. Luna-25 is the first station in a series of several that will establish the Lunar Test Site at the Moon's South Pole. And the lunar program of Russia is subordinated to a specific goal.

All Soviet E-series stations landed mainly in the equatorial regions of the Moon and their tasks were simpler. That's how the Chinese are now. In order not to be unfounded, here is the landing diagram of the Chinese station:

Quote: Cosm22

Instead, he provided an element for docking the takeoff module with the orbiter in orbit. In addition, after the capsule with the soil is moved to the return module, the takeoff module will still have to be undocked.

Docking is China's worked off point. It has no "uniqueness". The lander is a small copy of the Shengzhou lander, which in turn is a scale model of the Soyuz lander.

Quote: Cosm22

The project is, of course, daunting. The Chang'e-5 spacecraft had to be made of four modules: an orbiter, a return capsule, a lander and a take-off module, which brought its weight to 8,2 tons.

This only says that they blinded him from what they had previously worked out.

[donavi49]

The broadcast is not bad, we installed a bunch of cameras. True, their quality is weak, but already progress.


Bonus .

[DimanC]

Nu-nu. I saw what their whole program looks like - almost a complete cosplay from mattress pads, starting from the vertical movement of the rocket to the launch pad and ending with the emblem of the mission. https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6350798.html
Apparently, the result of this "mission" is also a little predictable ... Especially if the lunar soil will be studied exclusively by Chinese scientists.

[Kostadinov]

How long has technology gone from the times of the primitive and huge Saturn 5 (which was thrown and beaten) and the heroic leaping of people on the Moon (if it really hit, no one has done this for 50 years), through the Soviet past to the Chinese lunar "drones" today.

[slipped]

Quote: Kostadinov

and the heroic jumping of people on the moon (if it really hit, no one has been doing this for 50 years)

The American lunar program of the 60-70s was subordinated to one political goal - to take revenge on the USSR for a series of political losses in space exploration that were offensive to them. That is why $ 25 billion was spent in those prices - a huge amount even now. For example, the 20-year operation of the ISS is three times cheaper.

Of the 12 people who visited the moon, there was only one scientist - geologist Harrison Schmitt, in the last flight to the moon.

[Vadim237]

In the 60s, manned astronautics and everything that was connected with it just appeared - it is clear that the flight to the Moon at that time was a very risky and super-expensive event, but it contributed to a tremendous leap forward in the materials of computing systems, electronics and much more.

[slipped]

Quote: Vadim237

but he contributed to a tremendous leap forward in materials computing, electronics and much more.

On the other hand, most of the legacy of the program was banally lost, the rest was implemented in a greatly reduced form - Skyleb, Apollo (18).

[Odysseus]

44 years ago, the Soviet station Luna-24 delivered the Lunar soil for the last time.
44 years ago ....
Humanity is returning to the moon! This is the main thing. Let's wish the Chinese comrades success.

[slipped]

Quote: Odyssey

44 years ago, the Soviet station Luna-24 delivered the Lunar soil for the last time.
44 years ago ....

For those who were not born then and did not see it, it was like this:

In the process of soil extraction to a depth of 120 cm, the rotary drilling mode was used, and then the drilling methods were changed from rotary to impact-rotary. The total depth of the shaft was 225 cm.Due to the fact that the drilling was carried out with an inclination, the total penetration into the lunar surface was about 2 meters, and the actual length of the core was about 160 cm.

[Naughty]

Quote: Trevis

Let them see if the Merikos were on the moon. Are there traces from the soles.

We asked GDP for 100 grams of lunar soil from the "storerooms", just in case. Suddenly, they will not be able to return)))

[16112014nk]

If it were not for the combine and not for the drunk, we could plant apple trees on Mars!

[Vadim237]

I doubt it very much.