Chinese media explained the difference between Crimea for Russia and Nagorno-Karabakh for Armenia

The Chinese information portal Sohu in its military-thematic section publishes material in which it informs readers about the words of the Russian President regarding the status of Nagorno-Karabakh. Also, the Chinese resource cites the reaction to the statements of Vladimir Putin from the side of individual representatives of the Armenian community.

Let us remind that Vladimir Putin, stressing that Armenia did not recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, defined the status of Karabakh as territories belonging to Azerbaijan. According to Vladimir Putin, today this is an internationally recognized circumstance.

Sohu spoke about the criticism that some activists in Armenia have made towards Putin. In particular, statements of representatives of especially radical persons are cited. One example: "If Karabakh, as Putin says, is Azerbaijani, then Russia must return Crimea to Ukraine."

In the Chinese media, criticism of Putin's statement in Armenia has provoked mixed reactions. In particular, it points to the fundamental differences between Crimea for Russia and Nagorno-Karabakh for Armenia. The difference is explained as follows: Russia recognized Crimea, and the reunification was carried out according to the letter of Russian legislation, despite the rejection of the process by many foreign countries, but Armenia did not recognize the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, and does not recognize it.

Some Chinese readers, commenting on the complaints against Putin on the part of individual members of the public in Armenia, expressed themselves more directly, stating that if the words and decisions of the Russian president do not fit, it means “get up, take weapon into your hands and go fight with Azerbaijan for the land that you consider yours. "

Another comment:

And only the US authorities, which the Armenian authorities have looked at with such reliable lately, for some reason remained indifferent to the conflict.

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[soul]

The Chinese decided to step on the "sore spot" for the Armenians.

[Machito]

Compare Crimea with Karabakh like a pig with oranges. Karabakh can be compared with the LPR. Only Russia will not merge Donbass. This could lead to an internal Russian power crisis.

[Terenin]

And only the US authorities, which the Armenian authorities have looked at with such reliable lately, for some reason remained indifferent to the conflict.

And, in the United States, no one even remembered you when her interests were not there.
This applies to other grunts too.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Bearded

Only Russia will not merge Donbass. This could lead to an internal Russian power crisis.

Yours! The authorities could not lead to an internal Russian crisis either independently adopted amendments to the constitution (after the second term), nor the legalized extension of temporary powers to the State Duma deputies and the guarantor, nor the pension reform with its failures and simple robbery of pension money, nor an increase in taxes for everyone by 2% (in the form of VAT, although this levy is not attributed to taxes - the hand does not rise: whose tax, for what, who ???), nor the potential taxation of the rich (whose annual salary is more than 5 rubles) on the same 000%, although in Western countries this tax is much higher, no weekly elections, no voting "on the knee", no legal lawlessness against people disloyal to the government ...
Yes, the Russian people will be announced (as in that joke) that tomorrow everyone will be hanged !!! And he with round "ram's eyes" will look at the well-fed glossy faces and mumble: "Will you bring your rope and soap or will they give out?" "
Everything that could be handed over was handed over and sold ... SOLD !!! You cannot even imagine the scale of private property that exists in Russia, but you are still wondering: "Why is there no such thing, why is it not developing?" Because because! Because you are asking the wrong people.
The LDNR could have been a part of the Russian Federation for a long time, as well as Belarus. Only it could be called differently. Perhaps under a red flag, perhaps without eagles. Only our people, like any other no one will ask, - this is not why the power was transferred to successors here, this is not why the "necessary amendments" were introduced, not for that those speaking about the needs of the people are afraid of him, like the devil of LADANA ...

[sleeve]

Maybe the listed "changes" did not particularly provoke resistance? That is why they "entered". Slowly, with a creak, with mats ... Let's try to play with same-sex marriages. What will happen? That is that. "Organizational" questions, moreover, with such a "trailer" of boggling about them in the form of a discussion, the public people are interested in in terms of explaining "why". What cannot be explained will not be accepted. Donbass cannot be explained. This is a betrayal.

[Machito]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Bearded

Only Russia will not merge Donbass. This could lead to an internal Russian power crisis.

Yours! The authorities could not lead to an internal Russian crisis either independently adopted amendments to the constitution (after the second term), nor the legalized extension of temporary powers to the State Duma deputies and the guarantor, nor the pension reform with its failures and simple robbery of pension money, nor an increase in taxes for everyone by 2% (in the form of VAT, although this levy is not attributed to taxes - the hand does not rise: whose tax, for what, who ???), nor the potential taxation of the rich (whose annual salary is more than 5 rubles) on the same 000%, although in Western countries this tax is much higher, no weekly elections, no voting "on the knee", no legal lawlessness against people disloyal to the government ...
Yes, the Russian people will be announced (as in that joke) that tomorrow everyone will be hanged !!! And he with round "ram's eyes" will look at the well-fed glossy faces and mumble: "Will you bring your rope and soap or will they give out?" "
Everything that could be handed over was handed over and sold ... SOLD !!! You cannot even imagine the scale of private property that exists in Russia, but you are still wondering: "Why is there no such thing, why is it not developing?" Because because! Because you are asking the wrong people.
The LDNR could have been a part of the Russian Federation for a long time, as well as Belarus. Only it could be called differently. Perhaps under a red flag, perhaps without eagles. Only our people, like any other no one will ask, - this is not why the power was transferred to successors here, this is not why the "necessary amendments" were introduced, not for that those speaking about the needs of the people are afraid of him, like the devil of LADANA ...

Put you a bold plus

[St Petrov]

I slapped you both on the minus. And for your heartburn I will add here
such videos can cause bile and seizures in real pets

I demand the replacement of the sad Russian opposition and dilute the whining

[Normal ok]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Bearded

Only Russia will not merge Donbass. This could lead to an internal Russian power crisis.

Yours! The authorities could not lead to an internal Russian crisis either independently adopted amendments to the constitution (after the second term), nor the legalized extension of temporary powers to the State Duma deputies and the guarantor, nor the pension reform with its failures and simple robbery of pension money, nor an increase in taxes for everyone by 2% (in the form of VAT, although this levy is not attributed to taxes - the hand does not rise: whose tax, for what, who ???), nor the potential taxation of the rich (whose annual salary is more than 5 rubles) on the same 000%, although in Western countries this tax is much higher, no weekly elections, no voting "on the knee", no legal lawlessness against people disloyal to the government ...
Yes, the Russian people will be announced (as in that joke) that tomorrow everyone will be hanged !!! And he with round "ram's eyes" will look at the well-fed glossy faces and mumble: "Will you bring your rope and soap or will they give out?" "
Everything that could be handed over was handed over and sold ... SOLD !!! You cannot even imagine the scale of private property that exists in Russia, but you are still wondering: "Why is there no such thing, why is it not developing?" Because because! Because you are asking the wrong people.
The LDNR could have been a part of the Russian Federation for a long time, as well as Belarus. Only it could be called differently. Perhaps under a red flag, perhaps without eagles. Only our people, like any other no one will ask, - this is not why the power was transferred to successors here, this is not why the "necessary amendments" were introduced, not for that those speaking about the needs of the people are afraid of him, like the devil of LADANA ...

And they even have a stake on their head, they still believe (they believe, because they do not own analysis ((
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[CSKA]

Quote: Normal ok

And they even have a stake on their head, they still believe (they believe, because they do not own analysis ((

Where did you see what analysis? Whiner Ross 42? This is not analysis, but chatter.

[Mordvin 3]

[quote] And only the US authorities, which the Armenian authorities have looked at with such a reliable lately, for some reason remained indifferent to the conflict. [quote]
And they don't care. They don't even know where this Armenia is.

[soul]

Quote: Mordvin 3

And they don't care

There was no profit, so we didn't get involved.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: alma

There was no profit, so we didn't get involved.

But in vain. There is a lot of oil there. Enough for the whole world for 50 years.

[soul]

Didn't want to quarrel with the Turks

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: alma

Didn't want to quarrel with the Turks

Not understood. Who didn't want to quarrel? We? One murder of Karlov is an application for war.

[soul]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Not understood. Who didn't want to quarrel?

Americans did not quarrel with the Turks and fit in for the Armenians

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: alma

Americans did not quarrel with the Turks and fit in for the Armenians

Do they need it? They have elections.

[hagen]

Quote: Mordvin 3

But in vain. There is a lot of oil there. Enough for the whole world for 50 years.

You would at least put a smiley face, otherwise someone will take the thread for the truth and begin ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Hagen

You would at least put a smiley face, otherwise someone will take the thread for the truth and begin ...

I will not put a smiley. They found a bunch of oil there in the 80s.

[hagen]

Quote: Mordvin 3

They found a bunch of oil there in the 80s.

There is 1 ton in a heap .... Something since then no one spoke about the industrial volumes in those found places even in jokes ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Hagen

Since then, no one has ever spoken about industrial volumes in those found places, even in jokes ...

Read Albert Zaripov.

[hagen]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Read Albert Zaripov.

What does the special forces have to do with it? In fact, Armenia does not produce oil. There are rumors somewhere that it is possible at depths of 4500 meters. We drilled for a hundred exploration wells, of which the steam “farted” with gas for several days, that's the whole NG perspective of Armenia. If you offered me something signed by A.P. Popov, I am ready to consider it with due respect and piety.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Hagen

A.P. Popov suggested

What else is A. Popov? I'll suggest Sandykov. The one that tucked the pillow with diamonds under his head. Seven million.

[hagen]

Quote: Mordvin 3

What else is A. Popov?

A person who has worked in drilling for a significant part of his life and has reached the position of head of the Federal Agency for Subsoil Use (now a former one) ... knows what drilling is, has basic reliable (as far as technology allows) information about explored and promising fields, and other things in this topic.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Hagen

and others in this thread.

Got it.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Mordvin 3

They don't even know where this Armenia is

Of course they don't. However, they have one of the largest embassies there.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: orionvitt

Of course they don't. However, they have one of the largest embassies there.

Airplanes with cocaine?

[Lech from Android.]

The Chinese sit patiently on the banks of the river and wait for someone to swim past them along the river.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Chinese sit patiently on the banks of the river and wait for someone to swim past them along the river.

Lech, I somehow inquired about Chinese philosophy. This is a shit. They don't consider anyone to be human.

[Terenin]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Chinese sit patiently on the banks of the river and wait for someone to swim past them along the river.

Lech, I somehow inquired about Chinese philosophy. This is a shit. They don't consider anyone to be human.

At first glance, the current Sino-Russian relations seem to be good, but in reality this is the result of a poor choice dictated by US policy.
These are, for us, "those still" neighbors.

[hagen]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Chinese sit patiently on the banks of the river and wait for someone to swim past them along the river.

It must be a very large river that can accommodate all patient Chinese people on its banks. Even the Amazon can not accommodate everyone on both banks ...

[bar]

They don't even know where this Armenia is.

Why don't they know? It's next to george

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bar

It's next to george

Are those the goners from Louisville? French, damn it ... Luc Devereaux is from there.

[credo]

[quote = Mordvin 3] [quote] And only the US authorities, which the Armenian authorities have been looking at with such reliable lately, for some reason remained indifferent to the conflict. [quote]
And they don't care. They don't even know where this Armenia is. [/ Quote]
Why don't they know?
They even know very well and, apparently, everything went exactly as the US and the EU intended - Armenia in words (through the lips of the President and the Prime Minister) stands a mountain behind Karabakh, but does not provide assistance to Karabakh and does not send its troops.
After that, Azerbaijan completely liberates Karabakh from the Armenians, and all the Armenians of Karabakh are leaving en masse in all directions - to Armenia, the EU, the USA or Russia.
The President and Prime Minister of Armenia, along with their friends from the US and the EU, groan and gasp, sprinkle ashes on the fresh grave of Armenian Karabakh and everyone complains that the Russians (and who else should have defended Karabakh as not Russians) abandoned Karabakh to their fate ...
Armenia understands that its true friends are the United States and the EU, since only they spoke so much about Great Armenia and Karabakh that Russians never dreamed of, therefore they leave the CSTO and other organizations associated with Russia.
Meanwhile, Turkey enters Azerbaijan and subjugates it. Bad Aliyev leaves, a good Turkoman is put in his place, and through Turkey, the US and EU begin to establish the regime they need in Azerbaijan.
Everything. The shop was closed and all the countries of the South Caucasus - Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia - fall into the orbit of influence of the United States and the EU, and Russia leaves here not salty.

But something went wrong at the last moment, and Putin, together with Aliyev and Pashinyan, confused the US and the EU with all the cards. The question is for how long?

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

In particular, it points to the fundamental differences between Crimea for Russia and Nagorno-Karabakh for Armenia.

The difference between Crimea and NK will not be seen only by or especially stubborn from the well-known funny country.

[private person]

means "get up, take up arms and go fight with Azerbaijan for the land that you consider yours."

Golden words, and if you don't want to fight, then close your mouths and quietly sniff into a rag. Or did the Armenians think that Russia would go to war against Azerbaijan?

[bondrostov]

And one of them recently told me that it doesn't matter that we have no direct border with Armenia. We had to strike from our south along the Caspian coast directly directly to Baku, that is, in fact, instead of the Armenians, fight directly with Azerbaijan .. I sent him to the end .. he sits with us in Rostov, and I have to go to war on the pashod .. tin!

[abrakadabre]

We had to strike from our south along the Caspian coast directly directly to Baku, that is, in fact, instead of the Armenians, fight directly with Azerbaijan ..

Even if suddenly, in a parallel reality, we were at war with Baku, then the dividends from this victory would be all ours. Armenians have something to do with it? Just as now they would sit on the sidelines.

[bondrostov]

About dividends - this is understandable, I'm just talking about the fact that this person with whom I spoke, he defends the point of view of many Armenians that we are to blame for not harnessing to fight for them! That is, we are accused of treason. And they blame us not only for not helping, but for not going to fight directly with Azerbaijan! This is the highest degree of impudence !!

[private person]

we would have fought with Baku, then the dividends from this victory would have been all of our

What are the dividends? Are you serious?

[orionvitt]

The difference between Crimea and Nagorno-Karabakh is obvious. Russia said - did it, and so that no one had time to utter a word. And all the "fighters for democracy" began to breed snot only in hindsight. Unlike Armenia, where they only moo and calve, they do not recognize their own and look carefully to the west. We looked around. If not for the Russian "occupier", then the existence of Armenia would be in question. Neighboring hot Caucasian guys with friends from Turkey, would quickly set up a "head ax" there. Not the first time.

[Gardamir]

It seems that the war continues. From morning to evening they explain which Armenians are idiots and which Azerbaijanis are great. However, no matter how you keep quiet about Turkey, it is equally moved to the borders of Russia.

[private person]

However, no matter how you keep quiet about Turkey, it has moved equally to the borders of Russia.

So what? Erdagon imagines himself to be a sort of sultan and leader of the Muslims, but one day he will simply not be warned of the danger and his neck will simply be twisted. East is a delicate matter.

[bondrostov]

For example, I also do not like that Turkey has moved closer to our borders. Well, what could we do to fight instead of Armenians, for example, I don't want to die for the conditional Ashot ...

[Gardamir]

die for the conditional Ashot

most likely, the one following Putin will tell you how many actually died in Syria.

[Suleiman]

[/ quote] Recall that Vladimir Putin, stressing that Armenia did not recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, defined the status of Karabakh as territories belonging to Azerbaijan. According to Vladimir Putin, today this is an internationally recognized circumstance. [Quote]

It is completely unclear what the author wanted to say here.
By the way, the GDP made it very clear that Karabakh is an internationally recognized territory for Azerbaijan. The author here is trying to freak out, obviously confusing himself.

[Suleiman]

[/ quote] Sohu told about the criticism of which some activists in Armenia allowed themselves [quote]

The comma was put in the wrong place ... I'm not a literary expert, but I'm wondering, which was told in Sohu?

[APASUS]

It seems that the Armenians are looking for the culprit in their problems, and not a way out of the current situation

[Metallurgist]

The Chinese need to be careful. No matter how you run into a war with Armenia

[Revolver]

There is a difference. Azerbaijan is not Ukraine. While they rode on the Maidans, these were building an army.
And Armenia is up to the level of Russia as to China in the knee-elbow position.
I'm not even going to start on the topic of who has more rights in Karabakh (well, or Aptsax, if someone likes this name better), but rights that are not backed by the power ready to protect them are not worth a damn.

[cat Rusich]

Russians don't have to be patriots Nagorno-Karabakh, instead of Armenians.