France has decided on a new patrol aircraft for the fleet

The French naval forces will receive the new Falcon 2000 Albatros base patrol aircraft. On November 19, French Defense Minister Florence Parly announced the issue of a contract for the creation and supply of these aircraft.

The contract is for seven new Falcon 2000 Albatros patrol aircraft, which will be based on the large Dassault Falcon 2000 LXS business jets. Deliveries under the agreement are expected to begin in 2025. All in all, the French Navy intends to order 12 Falcon 2000 Albatros aircraft for use as "cheap" patrol aircraft.

In navy Falcon 2000 Albatros will be used exclusively for the control of the economic zone and territorial waters, as well as for use in overseas territories. Because of this, the aircraft will only have equipment for monitoring the surface situation.

The maximum takeoff weight of the Dassault Falcon 2000 LXS business jet is 19414 kg, it is equipped with two Pratt & Whitney Canada PW308C turbojet engines. The declared flight range is 7410 km (4000 nautical miles) at a cruising speed of M = 0,8 with a load of six people. In the version of a patrol aircraft, it will be equipped with an under-fuselage radar, an optoelectronic station and four external suspension units with the possibility of using, inter alia, anti-ship missiles. The aircraft will have four operator consoles.

It is noted that 9 of the 12 planned Falcon 2000 Albatros fuselages will be manufactured in India. This is stated in the 2016 contract for the purchase of 36 Dassault Rafale fighters by India.

Comments

[St Petrov]

is this a plane for war? a business jet is exactly what is lacking in the modern conflict of the French power

[Lech from Android.]

is this a plane for war?)

For patrolling territorial waters, it will do, it is cheap, economical and, according to its characteristics, keeps in the air for a long time ... what else is needed.

[St Petrov]

there is a chance with such a flight duration. that the French would surrender before he returned to the home base

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Lech from Android.

is this a plane for war?)

For patrolling territorial waters, it will do, it is cheap, economical and, according to its characteristics, keeps in the air for a long time ... what else is needed.

In fact, it is not very suitable, engines are needed that are more economical and capable of operating at the maximum-minimum speed, that is, better screw engines ... (for example ATR 42/72, Bombardier Dash 8 / Q Series, etc.)

[faiver]

is this a plane for war?

- An-72 aircraft for the war?

[St Petrov]

it is at least a military transport aircraft. it was not created to carry only passengers

[faiver]

This is a multi-functional aircraft, it is a transport, passenger, ambulance and patrol ...

[OgnennyiKotik]

And what you need? 7410 km is the distance from Moscow to Washington. More than enough for patrolling the territory. Radio-electronic equipment is now several times smaller in weight and dimensions. Automation requires fewer people. It is no longer necessary to use Boeing 737 or IL-76.
There is a version according to which the Iraqi Falcon 50 missiles "Exoset AM.39" disabled the US Frigate "Stark". As a result of the attack, a fire broke out, the ship was seriously damaged, 37 sailors were killed and 21 were injured.
"Large" business jets are coming into service in many countries. Excellent PLO, EW and AWACS aircraft.

[Pavel57]

Dassault needs to be loaded.

[Mountain shooter]

And it will retain all its flying qualities with such additions and suspensions? I do not believe...

[Rzzz]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

it will retain all its flying qualities with such additions and suspensions

The Il-18 kept it somehow, when it turned into the Il-38. And here the least thing is hung.

[Radical]

Quote: c-Petrov

is this a plane for war? a business jet is exactly what is lacking in the modern conflict of the French power

The Russian Federation does not have this either.
PS Please do not mention the remnants of the Soviet legacy in the form of the Il-38.

[Zaurbek]

And for target designation, you need it ... and, there is no aircraft that can be used .... In terms of size and range, you can use SSZH100. in Business versions, he flies 6000 km. But, until there is a local version, they will not give it.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Our analogue (not complete, but still) is called Tu-214ON (Tu-204). It needs to be finalized. But the problems seem to be in the heads of the military.

[Zaurbek]

Moreover, Poseidon based on the B-737 is a monopoly apparatus now. But, as I understand it, this little one is purely a scout. Poseidon, he can burn with buoys and torpedoes and a harpoon.

[OgnennyiKotik]

four nodes of external suspension with the ability to use, including anti-ship missiles.

Not clean, the article says.

[Zaurbek]

Right......

[fa2998]

Quote: Radikal

The Russian Federation does not have this either.
PS Please do not mention the remnants of the Soviet legacy in the form of the Il-38.

Yes, full, take away from "effective managers" - there will be a fleet of 50 pieces! Moreover, bought with state money, from the profits of state companies. And there is no need to resuscitate a 60-year-old plane. IL-18 was once a flagship, but his days are gone ...

[soul]

Such an inexpensive patrolman has been asking for a long time. Soon the UAV patrolmen will begin to rivet.

[Pavel57]

The Russian Federation may have a similar one based on the Il-114.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: alma

Soon the UAV patrolmen will begin to rivet.

Has long been. For example MQ-4 / 4C, MQ-9B SeaGuardian.

[Pavel57]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Our analogue (not complete, but still) is called Tu-214ON (Tu-204). It needs to be finalized. But the problems seem to be in the heads of the military.

Yes, there was a project analogous to Poseidon based on the Tu-204. The military slowed him down. On the other hand, there are no factories for a large plane.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Pavel57

on the other hand, there are no factories for a large plane.

In the sense of? Everything is. Tu-204s are produced every year, production is preserved, the issue of order. 5-10 pieces can be produced without serious stress, in 2006-2011 it was.

[Zaurbek]

We need a serial trunk .....

[Pavel57]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Everything is. Tu-204s are produced every year, production is preserved, the issue of order. 5-10 pieces can be produced without serious stress, in 2006-2011 it was.

Ulyanovsk cannot cope with the Il-76. And it is doubtful to continue the Tu-204 in parallel with the Il-76, especially the military modification. Kazan is also overloaded.

[Radical]

Quote: Pavel57

The Russian Federation may have a similar one based on the Il-114.

And where is he, IL-114?

[Radical]

Quote: Pavel57

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Our analogue (not complete, but still) is called Tu-214ON (Tu-204). It needs to be finalized. But the problems seem to be in the heads of the military.

Yes, there was a project analogous to Poseidon based on the Tu-204. The military slowed him down. On the other hand, there are no factories for a large plane.

Where did they go?

[Pavel57]

Quote: Radikal

And where is he, IL-114?

Goes to test.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Radikal

Where did they go?

Busy with other programs.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Zaurbek

We need a serial trunk .....

In the plans of MS-21.

[Ryaruav]

if it's not so bad for the protection of their shores, the main thing is the filling, but against Russia? and why should they be against Russia, they have their own problems there, and the Arabs have almost taken them from within