OSCE "discovered" Russian command post for UAV "Gunner-2" in Donbas

An OSCE drone found a Russian UAV system "Gunner-2" on the territory of the Luhansk region, 12 km from the line of contact. This is reported by the Ukrainian media.

According to the OSCE report dated November 14, 2020, it is specified that the previously identified as "RB-341В" Leer-3 "electronic warfare complex", upon detailed analysis, was identified as "the command post of the UAV" Navodchik-2 "", designed to carry out reconnaissance and special tasks, including for providing coordinates of targets of cannon artillery divisions and MLRS.

The complex includes a ground control station and seven UAVs of the Granat-1, Granat-2, Granat-3 and Granat-4 types. UAVs "Garnet" 1 and 2 are light (2,4 and 4 kg) portable UAVs of short range (10 and 15 km) with electric motors. Granat-3 is a device with a range of up to 25 km. equipped with a gasoline engine. "Granat-4" also has a gasoline engine, a range of up to 120 km and can carry various kinds of payloads: a photo / video camera, an infrared camera, electronic warfare equipment and a cellular communication bearing.

The appearance of this complex on the territory of Donbass caused a flurry of accusations against Russia from the Ukrainian media, which literally became full of headlines such as: "Putin transferred the latest intelligence complex to Donbass", "The newest Russian military complex with drones was first recorded in Donbass," "The latest Russian drones ", etc. etc.

Kiev has already stated that the fixation of the Russian command post of the UAV "Gunner-2" on the territory of Donbass indicates that Russia continues "military aggression" against Ukraine, deploying its military equipment on its territory.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Lai raised? Go on, it's hard to hear ... And the caravan is going ...

[Civil]

The largest "Granat-4" ....

[VO3A]

It is high time. There you need to see everything, and if necessary, aim and provide target designation ... To close the question, you need to transfer to these UAVs the battery of the MSTA ACS with Krasnopoli, and trained crews for their firing with guidance from the UAV .... Besides, near the border Donetsk People's Republic to deploy "Tornado-S" with new corrected projectiles based on signals from the UAV ... There will be enough range ... There is also a monitoring center with constant monitoring of the situation in real time on the demarcation line and adjacent territories ... It would not hurt to have an observation satellite with the possibility of target designation, constantly hanging over this territory ... The TU-214R must fly constantly ... You can hang the airship on a leash with powerful equipment. Stationary masts can be used, only on the territory of the LPNR. Let the guys practice here, if they didn't manage in Nagorno-Karabakh ... If we don't or don't know how, then the great military leader Gerasimov with a reprimand to retire ... ..
And ... fiery greetings to UKRam ... Somewhere like this ...

[VO3A]

Judging by the OSCE photo in the Russian army, or rather in its leadership, there are "stupid people" with the letter "D" !!! Nobody is engaged in combat training and organization of reconnaissance ... These stations should be located on the territory of Russia ... made specifically to demonstrate the presence ... But it's hard to believe ... The rest of the comments at the kindergarten level, the kids have fun ..... except MstislavHrabr

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: VO3A

Judging by the OSCE photo in

According to OSCE report dated November 14, 2020

I looked for this photo in the OSCE report and found nothing.
https://www.osce.org/files/2020-11-14%20Daily%20Report_RUS.pdf

[dedusik]

There is a link there

7.According to the updated data of the Mission, mentioned in this section of the SMM Daily Report dated 10 November 2020, the piece of equipment (“RB-341V Leer-3 electronic warfare system”) was the UAV ground control point (“Gunner-2”).

"November 268, 2020 Daily Report No. 10/2020"
November 8 on the territory of the airfield near n. Luhansk (non-government-controlled) SMM short-range unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) detected an electronic warfare system (RB-341V Leer-3) as well as 3 boxes (estimated to have been used for storing and transporting UAVs).

[boris epstein]

The Msta-S self-propelled guns were captured by the DPR army in the Debaltseve cauldron. With full ammunition. There are also trained crews. The only thing that is required is permission to suppress detected firing points.

[VO3A]

Is Krasnopoli available? A trained crew is a crew trained to fire with guidance from the UAV with Krasnopol shells. One projectile - one target ... The UAV calculation should be part of the installation and place its equipment on an armored car ... it is clear when it will be!

[boris epstein]

It was precisely because of the lack of preparation that the Krasnopoli ukroekipazh did not use it. Yes, and the ammunition does not consist of only Krasnopols. And they produce their own small UAVs in Donetsk. Technically literate people live in the Donbass, after all, 20% of the Ukrainian military air defense system was produced in Donbass. Many served both in the Soviet Army and in the Ukrainian Army. The coordinates of Ukrainian positions are taken from knocked-out and planted Ukrainian UAVs. There is already equipment for this.

[VO3A]

For Krasnopol, the coordinates are not so important, more precisely the exact coordinates, it is guided by a laser mark at the final section ... And for such guidance using a UAV, it must be equipped with the appropriate equipment ... In the Soviet army, Krasnopol was illuminated from the ground , you need to see more than what and how ...

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: VO3A

And ... fiery greetings to UKRam ... Somewhere like this ...

Do you think that reverse cross-border shelling is impossible?
In the same way, you can destroy the installations and the center.
With the same greetings.
Cross-border shelling without consequences is no longer possible.

[VO3A]

And who is coming? Will the installations stand and wait? And the center cannot be found, it does not radiate ... And my greetings to others, and yours is with you, as a diagnosis ...

[figwam]

Who are these OSCE?

[Thrall]

Quote: figvam

Who are these OSCE?

They are the most

[dmi3x]

- Welcome! I report: there is no violation of the silence regime!

[hydrox]

The very same OSCE that did not see Ukrainian tanks in combat positions between high-rise buildings, and the same ones that drove up to empty playgrounds where tanks were sheltered half an hour ago: "A false call came from the residents." ...

[Mimoprohodil]

Quote: hydrox

the very same OSCE that did not see Ukrainian tanks at close range in combat positions between high-rise buildings

the same commentators who have not seen the OSCE report

[Niel-le-Calais]

When one is against all, but that does not mean that you are wrong.
Latest news from the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM) based on information received as of 1 February 2017 at 19:30

In government-controlled areas, the SMM observed two MLRS (BM-21), moving east on the M04 road in the village. Netaylovo (22 km north-west of Donetsk), two more MLRS (BM-21), accompanied by a tilt truck, moving north along the H20 road 3 km south-east of Volnovakha (53 km south of Donetsk) , as well as 4 tanks (T-64) behind the building in Avdeevka, which is a violation of the corresponding withdrawal lines. In areas not controlled by the government, members of the Mission patrol saw 2 military-type trucks, each of which towed an unidentified type of artillery system (with sheathed barrels) south towards Makeyevka, and a military-type truck towed an artillery system southward near Yasinovataya. On the basis of the airborne surveillance data available to the SMM on January 31, 6 towed artillery units with corresponding support vehicles and two tanks near Yasinovataya were identified, as well as 3 towed artillery shells near the “DPR” -controlled s. Yakovlevka (10 km north of Donetsk).

A striking example of Russian propaganda from Zakharova

which the OSCE denied immediately, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not particularly hide

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine officially recognized the presence of tanks in Avdeevka on February 3.

this is by the way that the patriotic propaganda of even low professionalism is tenacious.
PS. my comment will be just as violently minus. Or maybe even removed with a ban.
It's dangerous to contradict the crowd ...

[APASUS]

Quote: figvam

Who are these OSCE?

No, these ..........

[Ilya098]

Here are some more "observers".

[Archivist Vasya]

They are, they are! I also can't resist the picture:

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Lai raised? Go on, it's hard to hear ... And the caravan is going ...

That's what she is a dog to bark.

[credo]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Lai raised? Go on, it's hard to hear ... And the caravan is going ...

That's what she is a dog to bark.

I wonder how they determined from the box that it was precisely the "Gunner" and not a mobile headquarters or a vehicle for transporting civilian personnel?
On the sides of the car, it seems like the name or purpose is not indicated and the inner filling is not visible, so why did the diseases get so excited? Is it possible that the "sveta" are so worried about the Ukrainian soldiers?

[hydrox]

There is an assumption that this is a complete lie, since ALL art control stations are built on the basis of a radar, and for some reason, not a single antenna of ANY range is visible ...

[Old tanker]

Already given wrong. With the advent of drones in our army, reconnaissance and strike systems have already been introduced as part of a drone - an artillery battery / division. We saw their work at the final stage of the war in Karabakh from the Armenian side.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And the caravan goes ...

In the right direction.

[antivirus]

finally we have posted ..
I also suggest - closer to Kyev - in the Bryansk region.
This will be the main direction.
Donbass will wait until we take the bridges in Kiev - then it will pull up to Zaporizhia.

[St Petrov]

while we take bridges in Kiev

those. Vladimir Vladimirovich can still have time to finish building the Podolsky Bridge and then finally?

in sly selyuki

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: s-t Petrov

those. Vladimir Vladimirovich can still have time to finish building the Podolsky Bridge and then finally?

will not build.
Podolsky will be completed. But they steal a lot on it.
It's funny, but this one was restored earlier. Although he is in the Donbass (controlled part)

And Kiev, as usual ... everything is always unreasonable there ... even for me.

[certero]

And I was pleased with this news. So, if anything, the "north wind" will blow well.

[Old tanker]

And he did not disappear from there.

[Thrall]

Everything is correct. Why should it be otherwise?

[Daniil Konovalenko]

OSCE "discovered" Russian command post for UAV "Gunner-2" in Donbas

... And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all , and if there is, then unarmed.

[hydrox]

How is it unarmed?
And the armor-piercing slingshots with steel balls from the bearings, which were placed in the outposts of Javelin operators?

[Daniil Konovalenko]

And no kidding, the OSCE does not see the other side at close range, does not see and does not hear the shelling ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all

They have no troops there, only mummers

Only I don’t understand where the blacks come from, or are these lads smeared with shoe polish.

[figwam]

Quote: tihonmarine

They have no troops there, only mummers

The main thing is to bend in time.

[anjey]

A few more years of military tourism from NATO countries, there, in the Krajina, will be full of real lads-maup

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all

They have no troops there, only mummers

Only I don’t understand where the blacks come from, or are these lads smeared with shoe polish.

Huh! And sho with that? Well, sho!? The cotton was very tanned.

[mmaxx]

But obviously not Jews or Muscovites

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

OSCE "discovered" Russian command post for UAV "Gunner-2" in Donbas

...And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all , and if there is, then unarmed.

That is the identity for the OSCE, their own, ridden.
Along the way, this office is engaged in monitoring only in one direction and performs the functions of legalized intelligence in favor of Kuyev and combat mattresses stationed in the Ukrainian region.

[tralflot1832]

The OSCE must be checked, otherwise they are only monitored by the monitors.

[hydrox]

If, during the turmoil, several employees of this mission are injured, incompatible with life, or simply knitted with bleeding, then no one else will see them there and there will be no one to pour spy information into the Ukrainian Armed Forces ...

[Lech from Android.]

The OSCE officers are spying on the information received by the ukram stupidly, we again turn a blind eye to the double standards of this organization. Well, as I understand it, the LPNR fighters are preparing for raids by Ukrainian drones of various classes and production ... Let's see who will take it.

[MstislavHrabr]

You need to answer. At the invitation of the leadership of the LDNR, a control point for the UAV "Gunner-2", owned by the PMC "Ratmir", operates on their territory. The Russian Federation does not plan to take measures against this activity, since it is not aimed at destroying the enemy's manpower, but, in accordance with an agreement with the authorities of the republics, is conducting additional control over the observance of the Minsk agreements by the parties to the conflict.

[hydrox]

Something is doubtful to me that the artillery fire control station can be given to a PMC.
PMCs can launch drones, conduct reconnaissance and even control strike drones, but controlling the fire of other units is a completely different function and a different responsibility and subordination.
Or is it some kind of new fad on the Donbass front? But what about the outpost, cover, defense - whose sphere is it and who is responsible for it? So after all, a car of this rank itself is not at all a motorbike ...

[VO3A]

Put fatty "+" ... The only comment on the case ... My 2 first look ...

[113262a]

Howl is good! And nothing. What is from the center of Lugansk to the front end of the Donets-11 km? And the occupied Happiness is part of the Oktyabrsky district of the city.

[loki565]

Free flights of Ukrainian UAVs in that area, with fairly good optics, or from a low altitude, are alarming.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: loki565

Alarms free flights of Ukrainian UAVs in the area

This means that the Sumerians can launch UAVs, but the Lao PDR cannot. And why screech if you yourself are head over heels in manure.

[hydrox]

Most likely, the drone suppression weapon is well disguised, and this impersonal kung could have been put up simply for delusion - after all, the Ukrainian Armed Forces also do not really know what our modern technical means look like.
And something I have not heard that the militias are prohibited from launching drones for reconnaissance.

[Katraps]

Photos on the Internet, and quite detailed - the sea.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: hydrox

And something I have not heard that the militias are prohibited from launching drones for reconnaissance.

The Sumerians believe that everything that is done in the world should be done only with their permission. And here Lao PDR launches drones without asking, they did not ask permission, otherwise they will start to launch hot air balloons.

[Deniso]

Well, we see KamAZ and? And where is the newest UAV complex, point your finger;)

[Katraps]

http://bastion-karpenko.ru/navodchik-2-ks-bla/

[tihonmarine]

Quote: denis obuckov

Well, we see KamAZ and?

We don't see, I wonder who sees him? Probably the only one who hasn't been hungover since the morning has a dream.

[Victorio]

this is not a heavy weapon, a gift to the republic's militia for additional control of the demarcation line, strengthening defense

[Katraps]

This is arms smuggling ... Russia does not recognize the DPR / LPR, which means it cannot legally sell / transfer arms to them.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Victorio

a gift to the republic's militia for additional control of the demarcation line,

Interesting lads, they give "Javelins", they are silent, but the republics give drones, they yell. Restless.

[Deniso]

The OSCE suddenly saw the light. I did not see the shelling of Khokhloreykha at close range. Well done ours, and then the hohlyatsky cocks after Karabakh dream of another "peremog".

[hydrox]

They will have a peremog today, and Debaltsevo and Ilovaiskaya will also be, and peremogs will appear in different directions from Kharkov to Odessa.
But they won't have to wait for either Minsk-1 or Minsk-2, let alone the "Normandy format", but they will drive them away with stinking rags until they get tired (yes, they probably won't take prisoners, but they will take documents send under their own power to the nearest commandant's office, firing slowly when the locals will identify the Bandera and other black-and-red svch

[kit88]

Why are they so excited, Bandera?
It's just a means of observation.
Or maybe you have something to hide ?!

[Brturin]

Quote: kit88

It's just a means of observation.

As an option. The forests burned, burned, so that it was for observing forest fires and a gift for the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the republic ... and a white car was standing nearby ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: kit88

Why are they so excited, Bandera?

Yes, someone started a duck that J.V. Stalin turned back.

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: kit88

Why are they so excited, Bandera?

yes, the usual information wave in the information war.
To attract attention. A profitable argument in different processes.
For example, about the supply of various weapons, the increase in pressure, the sanctions war, political and economic pressure, etc.
And so everyone has long known whose it is and where it comes from. And who is there and from where.
It's a pity that the OSCE UAV did it. Although a photo from another UAV would raise similar questions. And the OSCE UAVs are the only UAVs not prohibited. However, there is no power of words forbidding to do something. Only the power of action.

[Deniso]

How can one not remember the incorruptible: "An ordinary shishiga, why did you dig in" ©

[yfast]

This is just a voluntary technique. Or are the raguli, looking at Azerbaijan, already washing their uniforms for the parade in Donetsk?

[hydrox]

Not a single one has happened yet, but you already want them to wash your pants?
A turmoil will begin - they will not have time to wash ...

[Horon]

This is not a lethal weapon, and then why is nothing said about Ukrainian UAVs? Has the OSCE turned into a representative office of the SBU?

[faiver]

I personally see a two-axle KAMAZ with a kung, maybe it's a mobile mini-bakery, or a mobile bath, we don't have enough cars with kungs ... And if there was such an IFA there, then the GDR army was revived and the Stasi?

[Dmitry Makarov]

Perhaps the DPR wants to use the Azerbaijani experience in the fight against the Ukrainian invaders.
If it worked in Karabakh, then it's a sin not to use it.

[HAM]

I remember that they saw divisions of horse-submarine Buryats on "Armata", and now only one KAMAZ, it can be seen that the UAV optics have been updated ... or crushed by "scouts" .....

[Lord of the Sith]

On the territory of the sovereign Luhansk People's Republic, wreckage of ukroblasts was constantly found.
Where did they come from in our sky? Ayayay)))

[BAI]

previously identified as "RB-341V" Leer-3 "electronic warfare system" during a detailed analysis, it was identified as "the control point of the UAV" Navodchik-2 "",

Let's wait a little longer, and with a more detailed analysis, it will be identified as a strategic missile control center.

[hydrox]

What do you mean!
This is Ukraine, and the lads are naval there: they’re more likely to take the Admiral Kuznetsov’s direction and begin to suffer, that the damned Muscovites have taken all their aviation, so there is nothing to attack it with, there are only three An-2s left, not one of them is combat-ready!

[faiver]

Have they identified two more Kamaz trucks?

[Ilya098]

https://росрезервы.рф/kamaz-4310-kung-s-konservacii.html
For 1, anyone can buy a similar KAMAZ from storage.

[Katraps]

There, the photo clearly shows the distinctive features, first of all the antenna ...

[Ilya098]

If this is still a provocation, the ukrov will not have any problems with dummy antennas. could rivet such homemade products

[Alexander Vorontsov]

I never thought I'd see a car worse than a loaf.

[Maks1995]

Yes, it sucks that they didn't even try to hide it. There is no way to learn from Karabakh ...

[Ros 56]

The OSCE is probably confused as always, not the Gunner, but the Newbie.

[Volder]

As long as the "Minsk agreements" are not fulfilled, and as long as the Donbass is not under Kiev's control, and as long as Kiev organizes all sorts of blockades to the people living in Donbass, this is a private affair of the LPR and DPR how to defend themselves and whose intelligence assets to deploy. If the Maidan Ukrainian authorities had not created the "ATO zone" (ORDLO), there would have been no reason to turn to Russia for help from the authorities of the DPR and LPR. The Kievans themselves are to blame, but the Bandera nationalists never think about the root causes ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

So that for Kamaz it was not, but at least it is necessary to use a massset !!!

In general, in my opinion, for each technique you need to have two sets of masseti for the summer and for the winter. And then there is no need for nothing.

So they would stretch over the technique and let them wonder what is there and whether there is at all, but now everything is in full view.

It is worth punishing someone for such connivance and carelessness.

[Katraps]

Exactly ... We cannot even hide our presence in elementary ways ...

[svoit]

Quote: figvam

Who are these OSCE?

But on the other hand, when you're at the gun of a Bandera machine gun, you won't even see it. Here you have to be a hero ...

[Potomac]

Tellingly, in the ZSU, the OSCE is usually ranked among the pro-Russian organizations. And the attitude towards the OSCE is the same as that of the DPR / LPR formations.

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Potomac

Tellingly, in the ZSU, the OSCE is usually ranked among the pro-Russian organizations. And the attitude towards the OSCE is the same as that of the DPR / LPR formations.

the devil is in the details.
Mission composition. Center composition. There it can be conditionally divided into loyal and disloyal.
Therefore, one side perceives one information of the same mission as work for the other, and the other side considers other information of the same mission to be work for the enemy.
Truth dies first in the war. The OSCE runs the risk of trying to be neutral - because everyone lies.

[kozerog]

FINALLY real help! There is no need to expect anything adequate from the "horses", it is necessary to strengthen the Donbass with modern protection against cannibals, so that later there will not be "as always" ...

[serezhasoldatow]

We'll ask for permission from the Federation Council ... later.

[Reserve buildbat]

Have they found the Yars division there yet? Weak, then, shmal ...

[hydrox]

So, the Yars have a stupid habit of falling like snow on their head ...

[Reserve buildbat]

Save a kilometer of granite from such snow.

[Elephant]

OSCE are engaged in espionage in the crawl of Banderlog!

[Reserve buildbat]

They have been doing this since 2014 and do not care about these disabled people. But judging by the hallucinations, they started injecting drugs instead of drugs. Pandemic, you know ... There is not enough medicine for all ...

[Nikolaevich I]

The appearance of this complex on the territory of Donbass caused a flurry of accusations against Russia from the Ukrainian media And in Ukraine, Banderlog is jumping! And in the USA, blacks used to be lynched! So what is it now? Give up small "pleasures"?

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

The appearance of this complex on the territory of Donbass caused a flurry of accusations against Russia from the Ukrainian media

I learned about the squall from VO. Then I read it on Yaplakal with a link ... tadam..on VO.
Apparently it happened so about Ukraine, squalls and other things you learn from VO and other resources. And only then you look for a "squall" from Ukrainian sources and read the scanty information.
maybe VO is

Ukrainian media side

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Well, I'm just glad the "gunner" was there.

[Snail N9]

They stand openly, without any disguise ... It seems that Karabakh has not taught anything ...

[Nemec Nemec_2]

And what happened in Karabakh?

[Alexey Bobrin]

In the photo, it is written in large letters that this is Lugnansk))

[Nemec Nemec_2]

Well, they found and found something to yell. When something more serious appears, they will not have time to blush.

[sextant777]

Schoolchildren gathered at labor lessons.