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OSCE "discovered" Russian command post for UAV "Gunner-2" in Donbas

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OSCE "discovered" Russian command post for UAV "Gunner-2" in Donbas

An OSCE drone found a Russian UAV system "Gunner-2" on the territory of the Luhansk region, 12 km from the line of contact. This is reported by the Ukrainian media.


According to the OSCE report dated November 14, 2020, it is specified that the previously identified as "RB-341В" Leer-3 "electronic warfare complex", upon detailed analysis, was identified as "the command post of the UAV" Navodchik-2 "", designed to carry out reconnaissance and special tasks, including for providing coordinates of targets of cannon artillery divisions and MLRS.

The complex includes a ground control station and seven UAVs of the Granat-1, Granat-2, Granat-3 and Granat-4 types. UAVs "Granat" 1 and 2 are lightweight (2,4 and 4 kg) portable UAVs with a short range (10 and 15 km) with electric motors. "Granat-3" is a device with a range of up to 25 km. equipped with a gasoline engine. "Granat-4" also has a gasoline engine, a range of up to 120 km and can carry all sorts of payloads: a photo / video camera, an infrared camera, electronic warfare equipment and cellular communication bearing.


The appearance of this complex on the territory of Donbass caused a flurry of accusations against Russia from the Ukrainian media, which literally became full of headlines such as: "Putin transferred the latest intelligence complex to Donbass", "The newest Russian military complex with drones was first recorded in Donbass," "The latest Russian drones ", etc. etc.

Kiev has already stated that the fixation of the Russian command post of the UAV "Gunner-2" on the territory of Donbass indicates that Russia continues "military aggression" against Ukraine, deploying its military equipment on its territory.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 November 2020 12: 31
    37
    Lai raised? Go on, it's hard to hear ... And the caravan is going ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 20 November 2020 12: 35
      12


      The largest "Granat-4" ....
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 20 November 2020 17: 07
        12
        It is high time. There you need to see everything, and if necessary, aim and provide target designation ... To close the question, you need to transfer to these UAVs the battery of the MSTA ACS with Krasnopoli, and trained crews for their firing with guidance from the UAV .... Besides, near the border Donetsk People's Republic to deploy "Tornado-S" with new corrected projectiles based on signals from the UAV ... There will be enough range ... There is also a monitoring center with constant monitoring of the situation in real time on the demarcation line and adjacent territories ... It would not hurt to have an observation satellite with the possibility of target designation, constantly hanging over this territory ... The TU-214R must fly constantly ... You can hang the airship on a leash with powerful equipment. Stationary masts can be used, only on the territory of the LPNR. Let the guys practice here, if they didn't manage in Nagorno-Karabakh ... If we don't or don't know how, then the great military leader Gerasimov with a reprimand to retire ... ..
        And ... fiery greetings to UKRam ... Somewhere like this ...
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 20 November 2020 17: 34
          +6
          Judging by the OSCE photo in the Russian army, or rather in its leadership, there are "stupid people" with the letter "D" !!! Nobody is engaged in combat training and organization of reconnaissance ... These stations should be located on the territory of Russia ... made specifically to demonstrate the presence ... But it's hard to believe ... The rest of the comments at the kindergarten level, the kids have fun ..... except MstislavHrabr
          1. Lionnvrsk
            Lionnvrsk 20 November 2020 17: 39
            +3
            Quote: VO3A
            Judging by the OSCE photo in

            According to OSCE report dated November 14, 2020

            I looked for this photo in the OSCE report and found nothing. No.
            https://www.osce.org/files/2020-11-14%20Daily%20Report_RUS.pdf
            1. dedusik
              dedusik 21 November 2020 11: 02
              0
              There is a link there hi
              7.According to the updated data of the Mission, mentioned in this section of the SMM Daily Report dated 10 November 2020, the piece of equipment (“RB-341V Leer-3 electronic warfare system”) was the UAV ground control point (“Gunner-2”).

              "November 268, 2020 Daily Report No. 10/2020"
              November 8 on the territory of the airfield near n. Luhansk (non-government-controlled) SMM short-range unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) detected an electronic warfare system (RB-341V Leer-3) as well as 3 boxes (estimated to have been used for storing and transporting UAVs).
        2. boris epstein
          boris epstein 21 November 2020 15: 46
          0
          The Msta-S self-propelled guns were captured by the DPR army in the Debaltseve cauldron. With full ammunition. There are also trained crews. The only thing that is required is permission to suppress detected firing points.
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 21 November 2020 18: 09
            0
            Is Krasnopoli available? A trained crew is a crew trained to fire with guidance from the UAV with Krasnopol shells. One projectile - one target ... The UAV calculation should be part of the installation and place its equipment on an armored car ... it is clear when it will be!
            1. boris epstein
              boris epstein 23 November 2020 15: 53
              -1
              It was precisely because of the lack of preparation that the Krasnopoli ukroekipazh did not use it. Yes, and the ammunition does not consist of only Krasnopols. And they produce their own small UAVs in Donetsk. Technically literate people live in the Donbass, after all, 20% of the Ukrainian military air defense system was produced in Donbass. Many served both in the Soviet Army and in the Ukrainian Army. The coordinates of Ukrainian positions are taken from knocked-out and planted Ukrainian UAVs. There is already equipment for this.
              1. VO3A
                VO3A 23 November 2020 19: 31
                0
                For Krasnopol, the coordinates are not so important, more precisely the exact coordinates, it is guided by a laser mark at the final section ... And for such guidance using a UAV, it must be equipped with the appropriate equipment ... In the Soviet army, Krasnopol was illuminated from the ground , you need to see more than what and how ...
        3. Niel-le-Calais
          Niel-le-Calais 22 November 2020 00: 22
          0
          Quote: VO3A
          And ... fiery greetings to UKRam ... Somewhere like this ...

          Do you think that reverse cross-border shelling is impossible?
          In the same way, you can destroy the installations and the center.
          With the same greetings.
          Cross-border shelling without consequences is no longer possible.
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 22 November 2020 12: 23
            0
            And who is coming? Will the installations stand and wait? And the center cannot be found, it does not radiate ... And my greetings to others, and yours is with you, as a diagnosis ...
    2. figwam
      figwam 20 November 2020 12: 36
      61
      Who are these OSCE?
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 20 November 2020 12: 39
        29
        Quote: figvam
        Who are these OSCE?

        They are the most smile
        1. dmi3x
          dmi3x 20 November 2020 14: 54
          +3
          - Welcome! I report: there is no violation of the silence regime!
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 20 November 2020 12: 46
        16
        The very same OSCE that did not see Ukrainian tanks in combat positions between high-rise buildings, and the same ones that drove up to empty playgrounds where tanks were sheltered half an hour ago: "A false call came from the residents." ...
        1. Mimoprohodil
          Mimoprohodil 20 November 2020 15: 57
          -11 qualifying.
          Quote: hydrox
          the very same OSCE that did not see Ukrainian tanks at close range in combat positions between high-rise buildings
          the same commentators who have not seen the OSCE report
          1. Niel-le-Calais
            Niel-le-Calais 22 November 2020 00: 31
            -4
            When one is against all, but that does not mean that you are wrong.
            Latest news from the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM) based on information received as of 1 February 2017 at 19:30
            In government-controlled areas, the SMM observed two MLRS (BM-21), moving east on the M04 road in the village. Netaylovo (22 km north-west of Donetsk), two more MLRS (BM-21), accompanied by a tilt truck, moving north along the H20 road 3 km south-east of Volnovakha (53 km south of Donetsk) , as well as 4 tanks (T-64) behind the building in Avdeevka, which is a violation of the corresponding withdrawal lines. In areas not controlled by the government, members of the Mission patrol saw 2 military-type trucks, each of which towed an unidentified type of artillery system (with sheathed barrels) south towards Makeyevka, and a military-type truck towed an artillery system southward near Yasinovataya. On the basis of the airborne surveillance data available to the SMM on January 31, 6 towed artillery units with corresponding support vehicles and two tanks near Yasinovataya were identified, as well as 3 towed artillery shells near the “DPR” -controlled s. Yakovlevka (10 km north of Donetsk).

            A striking example of Russian propaganda from Zakharova

            which the OSCE denied immediately, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not particularly hide
            The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine officially recognized the presence of tanks in Avdeevka on February 3.

            this is by the way that the patriotic propaganda of even low professionalism is tenacious.
            PS. my comment will be just as violently minus. Or maybe even removed with a ban.
            It's dangerous to contradict the crowd ...
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 20 November 2020 12: 50
        38
        Quote: figvam
        Who are these OSCE?

        No, these ..........
        1. Ilya098
          Ilya098 20 November 2020 13: 15
          23

          Here are some more "observers".
      4. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 20 November 2020 13: 39
        +3
        They are, they are! I also can't resist the picture:
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 November 2020 12: 44
      +8
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Lai raised? Go on, it's hard to hear ... And the caravan is going ...

      That's what she is a dog to bark.
      1. credo
        credo 20 November 2020 13: 01
        12
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Lai raised? Go on, it's hard to hear ... And the caravan is going ...

        That's what she is a dog to bark.

        I wonder how they determined from the box that it was precisely the "Gunner" and not a mobile headquarters or a vehicle for transporting civilian personnel?
        On the sides of the car, it seems like the name or purpose is not indicated and the inner filling is not visible, so why did the diseases get so excited? Is it possible that the "sveta" are so worried about the Ukrainian soldiers?
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 20 November 2020 13: 32
          +6
          There is an assumption that this is a complete lie, since ALL art control stations are built on the basis of a radar, and for some reason, not a single antenna of ANY range is visible ...
          1. Old tanker
            Old tanker 20 November 2020 16: 25
            +3
            Already given wrong. With the advent of drones in our army, reconnaissance and strike systems have already been introduced as part of a drone - an artillery battery / division. We saw their work at the final stage of the war in Karabakh from the Armenian side.
    4. Tank hard
      Tank hard 20 November 2020 19: 06
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And the caravan goes ...

      In the right direction. hi
    5. antivirus
      antivirus 20 November 2020 19: 08
      +2
      finally we have posted ..
      I also suggest - closer to Kyev - in the Bryansk region.
      This will be the main direction.
      Donbass will wait until we take the bridges in Kiev - then it will pull up to Zaporizhia.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 21 November 2020 13: 58
        -2
        while we take bridges in Kiev

        those. Vladimir Vladimirovich can still have time to finish building the Podolsky Bridge and then finally?

        in sly selyuki
        1. Niel-le-Calais
          Niel-le-Calais 22 November 2020 00: 39
          -2
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          those. Vladimir Vladimirovich can still have time to finish building the Podolsky Bridge and then finally?

          will not build.
          Podolsky will be completed. But they steal a lot on it.
          It's funny, but this one was restored earlier. Although he is in the Donbass (controlled part)

          And Kiev, as usual ... everything is always unreasonable there ... even for me.
  2. certero
    certero 20 November 2020 12: 33
    35
    And I was pleased with this news. So, if anything, the "north wind" will blow well.
    1. Old tanker
      Old tanker 20 November 2020 16: 26
      +6
      And he did not disappear from there.
  3. Thrall
    Thrall 20 November 2020 12: 34
    10
    Everything is correct. Why should it be otherwise?
  4. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 20 November 2020 12: 34
    11
    OSCE "discovered" Russian command post for UAV "Gunner-2" in Donbas
    ... And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all laughing , and if there is, then unarmed. laughing
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 20 November 2020 12: 49
      +7
      How is it unarmed?
      And the armor-piercing slingshots with steel balls from the bearings, which were placed in the outposts of Javelin operators? laughing
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 20 November 2020 13: 11
        +8
        And no kidding, the OSCE does not see the other side at close range, does not see and does not hear the shelling ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 November 2020 12: 52
      15
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all

      They have no troops there, only mummers

      Only I don’t understand where the blacks come from, or are these lads smeared with shoe polish.
      1. figwam
        figwam 20 November 2020 12: 54
        +6
        Quote: tihonmarine
        They have no troops there, only mummers

        The main thing is to bend in time.
      2. anjey
        anjey 20 November 2020 13: 15
        +8
        A few more years of military tourism from NATO countries, there, in the Krajina, will be full of real lads-maup laughing
      3. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 20 November 2020 16: 28
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all

        They have no troops there, only mummers

        Only I don’t understand where the blacks come from, or are these lads smeared with shoe polish.

        Huh! And sho with that? Well, sho!? The cotton was very tanned.
        1. mmaxx
          mmaxx 21 November 2020 13: 53
          +1
          But obviously not Jews or Muscovites wink
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 November 2020 23: 49
      +3
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      OSCE "discovered" Russian command post for UAV "Gunner-2" in Donbas
      .And from the Ukrainian side, apparently there are no troops at all laughing , and if there is, then unarmed. laughing

      That is the identity for the OSCE, their own, ridden.
      Along the way, this office is engaged in monitoring only in one direction and performs the functions of legalized intelligence in favor of Kuyev and combat mattresses stationed in the Ukrainian region.
  5. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 November 2020 12: 36
    +6
    The OSCE must be checked, otherwise they are only monitored by the monitors.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 20 November 2020 12: 53
      +7
      If, during the turmoil, several employees of this mission are injured, incompatible with life, or simply knitted with bleeding, then no one else will see them there and there will be no one to pour spy information into the Ukrainian Armed Forces ...
  6. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 20 November 2020 12: 36
    +9
    The OSCE officers are spying on the information received by the ukram stupidly, we again turn a blind eye to the double standards of this organization. Well, as I understand it, the LPNR fighters are preparing for raids by Ukrainian drones of various classes and production ... Let's see who will take it. what
    1. MstislavHrabr
      MstislavHrabr 20 November 2020 12: 49
      25
      You need to answer. At the invitation of the leadership of the LDNR, a control point for the UAV "Gunner-2", owned by the PMC "Ratmir", operates on their territory. The Russian Federation does not plan to take measures against this activity, since it is not aimed at destroying the enemy's manpower, but, in accordance with an agreement with the authorities of the republics, is conducting additional control over the observance of the Minsk agreements by the parties to the conflict.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 20 November 2020 13: 39
        +5
        Something is doubtful to me that the artillery fire control station can be given to a PMC.
        PMCs can launch drones, conduct reconnaissance and even control strike drones, but controlling the fire of other units is a completely different function and a different responsibility and subordination.
        Or is it some kind of new fad on the Donbass front? But what about the outpost, cover, defense - whose sphere is it and who is responsible for it? So after all, a car of this rank itself is not at all a motorbike ...
      2. VO3A
        VO3A 20 November 2020 17: 44
        0
        Put fatty "+" ... The only comment on the case ... My 2 first look ...
  7. 113262a
    113262a 20 November 2020 12: 37
    +5
    Howl is good! And nothing. What is from the center of Lugansk to the front end of the Donets-11 km? And the occupied Happiness is part of the Oktyabrsky district of the city.
  8. loki565
    loki565 20 November 2020 12: 37
    +3
    Free flights of Ukrainian UAVs in that area, with fairly good optics, or from a low altitude, are alarming.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 November 2020 12: 58
      +9
      Quote: loki565
      Alarms free flights of Ukrainian UAVs in the area

      This means that the Sumerians can launch UAVs, but the Lao PDR cannot. And why screech if you yourself are head over heels in manure.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 20 November 2020 13: 48
        +8
        Most likely, the drone suppression weapon is well disguised, and this impersonal kung could have been put up simply for delusion - after all, the Ukrainian Armed Forces also do not really know what our modern technical means look like.
        And something I have not heard that the militias are prohibited from launching drones for reconnaissance.
        1. Katraps
          Katraps 20 November 2020 15: 20
          -2
          Photos on the Internet, and quite detailed - the sea.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 November 2020 16: 56
          +5
          Quote: hydrox
          And something I have not heard that the militias are prohibited from launching drones for reconnaissance.

          The Sumerians believe that everything that is done in the world should be done only with their permission. And here Lao PDR launches drones without asking, they did not ask permission, otherwise they will start to launch hot air balloons.
  9. deniso
    deniso 20 November 2020 12: 39
    +4
    Well, we see KamAZ and? And where is the newest UAV complex, point your finger;)
    1. Katraps
      Katraps 20 November 2020 15: 21
      -2
      http://bastion-karpenko.ru/navodchik-2-ks-bla/
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 November 2020 17: 00
      +1
      Quote: denis obuckov
      Well, we see KamAZ and?

      We don't see, I wonder who sees him? Probably the only one who hasn't been hungover since the morning has a dream.
  10. Victorio
    Victorio 20 November 2020 12: 40
    +4
    this is not a heavy weapon, a gift to the republic's militia for additional control of the demarcation line, strengthening defense
    1. Katraps
      Katraps 20 November 2020 15: 22
      -8
      This is arms smuggling ... Russia does not recognize the DPR / LPR, which means it cannot legally sell / transfer arms to them.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 November 2020 17: 05
      +2
      Quote: Victorio
      a gift to the republic's militia for additional control of the demarcation line,

      Interesting lads, they give "Javelins", they are silent, but the republics give drones, they yell. Restless.
  11. deniso
    deniso 20 November 2020 12: 41
    +5
    The OSCE suddenly saw the light. I did not see the shelling of Khokhloreykha at close range. Well done ours, and then the hohlyatsky cocks after Karabakh dream of another "peremog".
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 20 November 2020 14: 14
      +4
      They will have a peremog today, and Debaltsevo and Ilovaiskaya will also be, and peremogs will appear in different directions from Kharkov to Odessa.
      But they won't have to wait for either Minsk-1 or Minsk-2, let alone the "Normandy format", but they will drive them away with stinking rags until they get tired (yes, they probably won't take prisoners, but they will take documents send under their own power to the nearest commandant's office, firing slowly when the locals will identify the Bandera and other black-and-red svch
  12. kit88
    kit88 20 November 2020 12: 41
    10
    Why are they so excited, Bandera?
    It's just a means of observation.
    Or maybe you have something to hide ?! am
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 20 November 2020 12: 58
      +6
      Quote: kit88
      It's just a means of observation.

      As an option. The forests burned, burned, so that it was for observing forest fires and a gift for the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the republic ... and a white car was standing nearby ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 November 2020 17: 20
      +3
      Quote: kit88
      Why are they so excited, Bandera?

      Yes, someone started a duck that J.V. Stalin turned back.
    3. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 22 November 2020 00: 48
      -2
      Quote: kit88
      Why are they so excited, Bandera?

      yes, the usual information wave in the information war.
      To attract attention. A profitable argument in different processes.
      For example, about the supply of various weapons, the increase in pressure, the sanctions war, political and economic pressure, etc.
      And so everyone has long known whose it is and where it comes from. And who is there and from where.
      It's a pity that the OSCE UAV did it. Although a photo from another UAV would raise similar questions. And the OSCE UAVs are the only UAVs not prohibited. However, there is no power of words forbidding to do something. Only the power of action.
  13. deniso
    deniso 20 November 2020 12: 45
    +4
    How can one not remember the incorruptible: "An ordinary shishiga, why did you dig in" ©
  14. yfast
    yfast 20 November 2020 12: 49
    +1
    This is just a voluntary technique. Or are the raguli, looking at Azerbaijan, already washing their uniforms for the parade in Donetsk?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 20 November 2020 16: 28
      +1
      Not a single one has happened yet, but you already want them to wash your pants?
      A turmoil will begin - they will not have time to wash ...
  15. Horon
    Horon 20 November 2020 12: 53
    +4
    This is not a lethal weapon, and then why is nothing said about Ukrainian UAVs? Has the OSCE turned into a representative office of the SBU?
  16. faiver
    faiver 20 November 2020 12: 56
    +9
    I personally see a two-axle KAMAZ with a kung, maybe it's a mobile mini-bakery, or a mobile bath, we don't have enough cars with kungs ... And if there was such an IFA there, then the GDR army was revived and the Stasi?
  17. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 20 November 2020 13: 00
    +4
    Perhaps the DPR wants to use the Azerbaijani experience in the fight against the Ukrainian invaders.
    If it worked in Karabakh, then it's a sin not to use it.
  18. HAM
    HAM 20 November 2020 13: 02
    +4
    I remember that they saw divisions of horse-submarine Buryats on "Armata", and now only one KAMAZ, it can be seen that the UAV optics have been updated ... laughing or crushed by "scouts" .....
  19. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 20 November 2020 13: 03
    +3
    On the territory of the sovereign Luhansk People's Republic, wreckage of ukroblasts was constantly found.
    Where did they come from in our sky? Ayayay)))
  20. BAI
    BAI 20 November 2020 13: 31
    +6
    previously identified as "RB-341V" Leer-3 "electronic warfare system" during a detailed analysis, it was identified as "the control point of the UAV" Navodchik-2 "",

    Let's wait a little longer, and with a more detailed analysis, it will be identified as a strategic missile control center.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 20 November 2020 16: 34
      +1
      What do you mean!
      This is Ukraine, and the lads are naval there: they’re more likely to take the Admiral Kuznetsov’s direction and begin to suffer, that the damned Muscovites have taken all their aviation, so there is nothing to attack it with, there are only three An-2s left, not one of them is combat-ready! laughing
  21. faiver
    faiver 20 November 2020 13: 33
    0
    Have they identified two more Kamaz trucks?
  22. Ilya098
    Ilya098 20 November 2020 13: 35
    0
    https://росрезервы.рф/kamaz-4310-kung-s-konservacii.html
    For 1, anyone can buy a similar KAMAZ from storage.
    1. Katraps
      Katraps 20 November 2020 15: 36
      -1
      There, the photo clearly shows the distinctive features, first of all the antenna ...
      1. Ilya098
        Ilya098 20 November 2020 16: 20
        +1
        If this is still a provocation, the ukrov will not have any problems with dummy antennas. could rivet such homemade products
        1. Alexander Vorontsov
          Alexander Vorontsov 20 November 2020 16: 43
          +3
          I never thought I'd see a car worse than a loaf.
  23. Maks1995
    Maks1995 20 November 2020 13: 48
    +2
    Yes, it sucks that they didn't even try to hide it. There is no way to learn from Karabakh ...
  24. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 November 2020 13: 48
    +4
    The OSCE is probably confused as always, not the Gunner, but the Newbie. laughing
  25. Volder
    Volder 20 November 2020 13: 48
    +4
    As long as the "Minsk agreements" are not fulfilled, and as long as the Donbass is not under Kiev's control, and as long as Kiev organizes all sorts of blockades to the people living in Donbass, this is a private affair of the LPR and DPR how to defend themselves and whose intelligence assets to deploy. If the Maidan Ukrainian authorities had not created the "ATO zone" (ORDLO), there would have been no reason to turn to Russia for help from the authorities of the DPR and LPR. The Kievans themselves are to blame, but the Bandera nationalists never think about the root causes ...
  26. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 20 November 2020 14: 01
    +5
    So that for Kamaz it was not, but at least it is necessary to use a massset !!!

    In general, in my opinion, for each technique you need to have two sets of masseti for the summer and for the winter. And then there is no need for nothing.

    So they would stretch over the technique and let them wonder what is there and whether there is at all, but now everything is in full view.

    It is worth punishing someone for such connivance and carelessness.
    1. Katraps
      Katraps 20 November 2020 15: 27
      -1
      Exactly ... We cannot even hide our presence in elementary ways ...
  27. svoit
    svoit 20 November 2020 14: 07
    0
    Quote: figvam
    Who are these OSCE?

    But on the other hand, when you're at the gun of a Bandera machine gun, you won't even see it. Here you have to be a hero ...
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  29. Potomac
    Potomac 20 November 2020 14: 27
    +1
    Tellingly, in the ZSU, the OSCE is usually ranked among the pro-Russian organizations. And the attitude towards the OSCE is the same as that of the DPR / LPR formations.
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 22 November 2020 00: 53
      -2
      Quote: Potomac
      Tellingly, in the ZSU, the OSCE is usually ranked among the pro-Russian organizations. And the attitude towards the OSCE is the same as that of the DPR / LPR formations.

      the devil is in the details.
      Mission composition. Center composition. There it can be conditionally divided into loyal and disloyal.
      Therefore, one side perceives one information of the same mission as work for the other, and the other side considers other information of the same mission to be work for the enemy.
      Truth dies first in the war. The OSCE runs the risk of trying to be neutral - because everyone lies.
  30. kozerog
    kozerog 20 November 2020 14: 32
    +4
    FINALLY real help! There is no need to expect anything adequate from the "horses", it is necessary to strengthen the Donbass with modern protection against cannibals, so that later there will not be "as always" ...
  31. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 20 November 2020 14: 33
    +2
    We'll ask for permission from the Federation Council ... later.
  32. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 20 November 2020 15: 29
    +4
    Have they found the Yars division there yet? Weak, then, shmal ... laughing
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 20 November 2020 16: 38
      +1
      So, the Yars have a stupid habit of falling like snow on their head ... laughing
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 20 November 2020 17: 10
        +1
        Save a kilometer of granite from such snow.
  33. Elephant
    Elephant 20 November 2020 16: 27
    +3
    OSCE are engaged in espionage in the crawl of Banderlog!
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 20 November 2020 17: 09
      +1
      They have been doing this since 2014 and do not care about these disabled people. But judging by the hallucinations, they started injecting drugs instead of drugs. Pandemic, you know ... There is not enough medicine for all ...
  34. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 November 2020 23: 11
    0
    The appearance of this complex on the territory of Donbass caused a flurry of accusations against Russia from the Ukrainian media And in Ukraine, Banderlog is jumping! And in the USA, blacks used to be lynched! So what is it now? Give up small "pleasures"?
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 22 November 2020 00: 56
      -2
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      The appearance of this complex on the territory of Donbass caused a flurry of accusations against Russia from the Ukrainian media

      I learned about the squall from VO. Then I read it on Yaplakal with a link ... tadam..on VO.
      Apparently it happened so about Ukraine, squalls and other things you learn from VO and other resources. And only then you look for a "squall" from Ukrainian sources and read the scanty information.
      maybe VO is
      Ukrainian media side
  35. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 21 November 2020 00: 06
    0
    Well, I'm just glad the "gunner" was there.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 21 November 2020 11: 05
      0
      They stand openly, without any disguise ... It seems that Karabakh has not taught anything ...
      1. Nemec Nemec_2
        Nemec Nemec_2 21 November 2020 22: 35
        0
        And what happened in Karabakh?
  36. Alexey Bobrin
    Alexey Bobrin 21 November 2020 21: 35
    0
    In the photo, it is written in large letters that this is Lugnansk))
  37. Nemec Nemec_2
    Nemec Nemec_2 21 November 2020 22: 35
    0
    Well, they found and found something to yell. When something more serious appears, they will not have time to blush.
  38. sektant777
    sektant777 22 November 2020 03: 28
    0
    Schoolchildren gathered at labor lessons.