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In Russia, hundreds of contractors do not stand the test

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In Russia, hundreds of contractors do not stand the test

In the Eastern Military District (VBO), 350 contract servicemen “broke down” during the exams at the next “survival courses”, all of them will be dismissed from the ranks of the Russian army, said Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Gordeyev, head of the press service of the VBO.

“This time they didn’t cope with the test or didn’t want to continue serving in the Armed Forces around 350 contract servicemen. All of them will be dismissed from the ranks of the Russian army as not meeting the requirements for professional military, ”said A. Gordeev.

He clarified that in the training units of the SVO, stationed in the Trans-Baikal, Khabarovsk and Primorye Territories, the second courses of intensive general arms training “survival courses” for contract servicemen were completed. “At the second stage of carrying out activities for enhanced combat training of contract servicemen, female military personnel also took part. Of these, only five people could not stand it, ”noted A. Gordeev.

To date, he said, all over the district more than 12,5 thousand servicemen, including about 1,5 thousand women, have been trained in “survival courses”.

“In the training program for servicemen of women serving under contract in formations and military units of the district, the standards practically did not differ from those of men. With the exception of the forced march and night classes, which accounted for 20 percent of training time, “- said A. Gordeev.

According to him, by the end of this year, all contract servicemen in the military unit must complete six-week intensive general training courses.
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  1. spender
    spender 14 August 2012 11: 32
    0
    Until fines are introduced for officers who signed contracts with these "idiots" there will be no sense hi
    1. bachast
      bachast 14 August 2012 11: 39
      +13
      But I don’t agree with you. Give me a platoon of dystrophics and after half a year they all pass this test (not so scary) naturally provided that the person consciously signed the contract and he needs service in the Armed Forces
      Arriving at the military enlistment office, this future contractor could look quite fit (although I agree negligence and it is not uncommon in the military enlistment offices) they are customized according to plans as well
      1. esaul
        esaul 14 August 2012 18: 26
        +1
        Quote: spender
        Until fines are introduced for officers who signed contracts with these "idiots" there will be no sense

        Alexei, a person can know the limit of his psychophysical capabilities only when he is placed in extreme conditions. Hothouse (or not at all) conditions, when watching heroic stories on TV, do not always give a complete picture of the workloads that await the service and, therefore, the percentage of those who overestimated their capabilities was, is and will be.
        Therefore, I absolutely agree with bachast,
        in his words
        Quote: bachast
        Arriving at the military enlistment office, this future contractor could look quite fit (although I agree negligence and it is not uncommon in the military enlistment offices) they are customized according to plans as well

        But, I really liked the tendentious headline about "hundreds" (in this case - hundreds - this is not a significant percentage of the quite significant number of purposeful guys) refuseniks! Journalistic chatter always either aggravates the situation, or sometimes distorts it beyond recognition.
    2. Slayer
      Slayer 14 August 2012 11: 43
      +3
      Quote: spender

      Until fines are introduced for officers who signed contracts with these "idiots" there will be no sense

      And here the officers, military enlistment offices are gaining something like that, but they don’t care about the preparation, the main plan is to fulfill
      1. spender
        spender 14 August 2012 11: 45
        0
        Quote: Slayer
        And here the officers, military enlistment offices are gaining

        In the military enlistment offices, who is recruiting contractors, VOKhRovtsy? laughing
        1. Slayer
          Slayer 14 August 2012 11: 52
          +1
          Quote: spender
          In the military enlistment offices, who is recruiting contractors, VOKhRovtsy?

          the commission selects the honey, and the commissioner is already given a conclusion, if A1 is written there, then, in theory, he is ready to serve in any part, then doctors should give more claims, in particular to the military registration and enlistment therapists, they put fitness on physical readiness. And as long as we have in the military enlistment offices will call that conscripts, that the contract soldiers are not due to health reasons, but according to the plan, such sadness will continue)))
        2. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 14 August 2012 12: 16
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          Quote: spender
          In the military enlistment offices, who is recruiting contractors, VOKhRovtsy?

          Namely VOKhRovtsy, for there aren’t not so many officers in military enlistment offices as military officers.
        3. leon-iv
          leon-iv 14 August 2012 15: 59
          +1
          Here is the nuance of the military registration and enlistment offices in themselves specific institutions. But the MO requires staffing the OSH. Many go hoping for 25-30 thousand to sit on the priest to spit evenly on the ceiling. But it is very good that such fees are held. By the way, their contractors should be held once a year.
        4. Walker
          Walker 15 August 2012 01: 03
          0
          Aunts are gaining and sadly it's true ...
    3. танк
      танк 14 August 2012 14: 41
      0
      It’s just that they didn’t take it by the wrong criteria, they recruited everyone or associates, having learned about such salaries, I can’t say for sure. from and to, I disassembled and assembled for 25 years more than once, from an emergency I came as a senior sergeant. The other day they said that it still fits, because. almost all the double basses that signed the contract half a year ago physically failed. contract aviation sergeant about 50 and below
  2. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 14 August 2012 11: 39
    +4
    It’s no secret to anyone how and what contingent was recruited. Now comes natural selection and nothing more. Everyone should work out their money in full.
  3. zevs379
    zevs379 14 August 2012 11: 44
    +3
    Very good trend +. If screened out then they know what is required of a warrior. Do not want do not serve. Do not take the place of those who want.
  4. red 015
    red 015 14 August 2012 11: 47
    +1
    It’s time to test the strength of the contractors for a long time, to see which of them is much
  5. Centaurus
    Centaurus 14 August 2012 11: 49
    +2
    So what kind of panic?
    350 did not pass, but 12,5 thousand did it.
    request
    Well, not all are suitable for military service.
  6. volcano
    volcano 14 August 2012 12: 01
    +2
    There is nothing to worry about. Well, did not pass and did not pass.
    Another question is that this is also a reform innovation. And in terms of training did they prepare for this? I doubt.
    The Moscow Region doesn’t want to understand that it’s impossible to introduce such things like that.
    Imagine coming up with a parachute test tomorrow. All military must jump. True, they were not taught this (except the Airborne Forces and the Marines), but is this really important? The main thing to introduce ...... How many military do you think will not pass this test? MOST. So it is here.
    I remember from the school that the physicist standards were the toughest in the 4th year, that is, it was believed that it took 4 years of military school in order to bring the cadet to the possibility of their implementation. Gradually. FOR 4 YEARS. And all these tests, as a matter of fact, were introduced sharply, without preparing the military personnel accordingly.
    If we proceed from the number of those who did not surrender relative to those who surrendered, then it is probably not very cruel, but again we must understand that the Army will not make Rambo one day out of breath.
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 14 August 2012 16: 03
      +1
      Another question is that this is also a reform innovation. And in terms of training did they prepare for this? I doubt.
      Just the same in the courses and cook. In the finals of which they conduct an exam.
      Imagine coming up with a parachute test tomorrow.
      He will be very soon and there’s nothing wrong with that, they will throw off the D-5 and everything will be fine
      And all these tests, as a matter of fact, were introduced sharply, without preparing the military personnel accordingly.
      It is understood that they have primary training after serving in the armed forces.
      The army will not make Rambo out of the gasp in one day.
      It does not, therefore, it is necessary to beat and beat the ruble. This is the most effective. Man makes himself.
  7. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 14 August 2012 12: 14
    +1
    That's right, they got drug addicts, parasites, now let them give others a place!
  8. Villi
    Villi 14 August 2012 12: 18
    0
    Hard to learn - easy in battle!
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 14 August 2012 16: 03
      0
      [Hard in learning - easy in battle! / B]
      Hard to learn - easy in the lesion soldier
  9. Recon
    Recon 14 August 2012 12: 26
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    The point is that a significant part of the double bass serves in the army, because it is "too difficult for them to live in civilian life." Simply put, the uneducated, incapable of anything other than combat service. They are not talking about any service zeal, with all that it implies. Acho, conscripts work, I go and kick them, (power am ), and even a payment of 30 thousand ...

    By the way, all of the above also applies to officers pretty much.

    zs it was a question of, as a rule, non-combat units. Even in my amphibious training, such behavior of contract soldiers took place very often.

    z. I did not want to offend anyone, I myself contra laughing who is offended - draw conclusions and develop.
  10. Aventurinka
    Aventurinka 14 August 2012 12: 29
    +1
    Quite a normal percentage of those who drop out. It would be 50% - you could raise a panic. And so, everything is fine)))
  11. vorobey
    vorobey 14 August 2012 12: 39
    +2
    Damn, even if 15 were to be thrown off, it would be possible to run to the second round on the hills with an automatic machine. if only there were crackers and tobaccos, but we’ll find a spirit.
    1. Baron Wrangell
      Baron Wrangell 14 August 2012 13: 45
      +1
      Quote: vorobey
      Damn, even if 15 were to be thrown off, it would be possible to run to the second round on the hills with an automatic machine. if only there were crackers and tobaccos, but we’ll find a spirit.


      that's for sure! I agree!




  12. Uncle
    Uncle 14 August 2012 12: 39
    +1
    To date, he said, all over the district more than 12,5 thousand servicemen, including about 1,5 thousand women, have been trained in “survival courses”. Women in the army, that's good. I hope they are not prepared like men.
  13. Rossmk
    Rossmk 14 August 2012 12: 46
    0
    For the soldiers themselves, they have already taken up training.
  14. Strashila
    Strashila 14 August 2012 14: 15
    +1
    They didn’t do one thing, they refused another thing completely. They thought that they couldn’t dismiss, and what is the meaning of this word. Also, work on a second round.
  15. ariy_t
    ariy_t 14 August 2012 14: 51
    +3
    350 people finally learned that military service is sweat and blood ... And not only stability and high salary ..
  16. Russian citizen
    Russian citizen 14 August 2012 17: 23
    +1
    And I have a friend "krapovik". I came to get a job in the police (riot police), they did not take them, they say they are not needed.
    1. DIMS
      DIMS 14 August 2012 20: 17
      0
      The police are reluctant to take both the military and the VVshnikov. Especially noted in hot spots.

      Although VV and the police are in the same ministry.
  17. sergey261180
    sergey261180 14 August 2012 18: 54
    +1
    First of all, you need to check on the turnstile to hang up to jump. So as to be an example. laughing
  18. komsomolets
    komsomolets 14 August 2012 20: 10
    0
    I have a question for the distinguished public, whether I can enter the service under the contract of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, while being a citizen of Ukraine. I would like to compare modern realities.
    1. DIMS
      DIMS 14 August 2012 20: 15
      0
      You can.

      http://recrut.mil.ru/career/soldiering/conditions/foreigners.htm
    2. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 14 August 2012 20: 21
      +1
      Probably no. Since vygrazdinini hostile country. If you are able to obtain citizenship of the Russian Federation, you are welcome, the guys from Finland served with me, but they had citizenship. Plus education is desirable. Plus an urgent need to be served. I advise you to move to Russia. It’s best for you to get a job where you don’t be in the ECB or Novosib there in bulk and good money. You can visit us in Krsk. Well, then a couple of years later, military service and if you pass you can serve. I will say right away I myself did not serve long ago. The army of our standards has become very pleased with the conditions of the jins; they are very comfortable. And there are many teachings, but the requirements have increased greatly. As before, at the beginning of 2000 you can’t be spoiled. And they drive for drunkenness. Plus, with a salary, a rating system is in effect, the more you serve, the more the salary, and what’s included there. For young officers and officers, there are no problems with housing, but with the old people there’ll be a lot of shit there for a long time. And forgot the shot increased sometimes right up to the pain in the shoulder shot. And also if I get to a hot spot. In general, understand that the army in the Russian Federation is fighting so if you don’t drift you can go. There is an era of contract soldiers.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 15 August 2012 17: 03
        0
        Can. According to the law. About a hostile state - brilliant. The state is declared hostile by a special decree.
  19. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 14 August 2012 20: 12
    0
    We are all too smart and competent.
    We argue who and how are gaining under the contract. It is gaining. For it is not said anywhere - SELECT. Moreover, not a single officer was left in the military commissariats. Even the military commissar of the region is a civilian. They even wanted to put a woman from the tax on the post of military commissar of the republic. They weren’t randomly assigned. The contract is mainly for women. Draw conclusions. I want to remind you that
    “At present, selection points for military service under contract should be created. Points should appear in the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.
    The main objective of the selection points will be the acquisition of military units by military personnel under contract from among citizens who have already completed military service.
    Items will be supplied with various advertising and reference materials, as well as the necessary automotive and multimedia equipment.
    The staff of the checkpoints will conduct campaigning events, promote the merits and advantages of contract military service, talk about the procedure for admission to it and the passage. "

    I already noticed that they should be created by June 1, rescheduled for August 1, and now for November 1. Probably, the point will be based on the regional military registration and enlistment office. And who will be involved in the selection, what are the requirements - Health and military service. Nobody wants to deal with those who have not survived, and there is no such opportunity. Everyone wants to get ready. And zhurnalyugi here, as here. They would themselves drive for survival. I doubt that someone of them would have taken the full course. It’s easiest to wobble. And registration - now dismisses and accepts the contractor MO. And monetary allowance, by the way, he also charges. Design takes months. Such is the plan for Taburetkin and his girls. They are more important than all generals and nobody asks their opinion. interested, unfortunately. NEW FACE .....
    1. DIMS
      DIMS 14 August 2012 20: 19
      0
      Do you think something has changed? The military commissariats and with a bunch of officers in these positions were more likely opponents than assistants.
      It was enough to go to the "buyer" once to understand this.