Military Correspondent Pegov: If the operation in the "gorge of death" had been completed, it could have led to the defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces

The network is actively discussing the statement of the war correspondent Semyon Pegov, working within the Wargonzo project.

He made a statement on the air of the program "Solovyov LIVE - SMERSH" for another Semyon - Bagdasarov.

Pegov stated that if the operation in the so-called "gorge of death" by the Armenian troops had been brought to an end, then "everything could have ended in complete defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces." This statement of Semyon Pegov is now actively replicated Armenian MASS MEDIA.

The correspondent of the Wargonzo project says that Jalal Harutyunyan, the head of the defense department of Artsakh (the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic), personally chose the option with the “death gorge”.

According to Pegov, the essence of the idea was as follows: a small group of up to five people, armed with grenade launchers, destroyed about fifty enemy soldiers in a narrow corridor. Pegov believes that the tactics themselves were successful, since against this background “other sectors of the front of the Azerbaijani troops were exposed”.

It is alleged that in the "gorge of death" during the continuation of the military operation, "not only Azerbaijani, but also Turkish special forces were ground."

Pegov adds that the NKR defense army "was ready to launch a counter-offensive in Martuni, but the operation was not completed." Who did not let it be completed is the main question, according to Semyon Pegov.

According to this logic, it turns out that the agreements signed by Aliyev, Pashinyan and Putin stopped not the final defeat of the NKR troops, but the "counteroffensive of the Karabakh army." An interesting interpretation of events. It is also interesting because if this version is exaggerated, there will be even more claims to Nikol Pashinyan: they say, he did not allow the Karabakh troops to defeat the Azerbaijani army at the "most key moment". In principle, such slogans have already sounded in Yerevan.

Military commander Pegov also added that "the Armenian army fought indirectly in Karabakh." According to him, many gaps could have been hidden by another combat-ready corps.

Comments

[nnm]

After a fight, they don't wave their fists ...
No ifs already exist. There are only lessons to be learned.

[Tatyana]

Military Correspondent Pegov: If the operation in the "gorge of death" had been completed, it could have led to the defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces

If only ... if only "would" interfere!

[krutov]

Quote: Tatiana

Military Correspondent Pegov: If the operation in the "gorge of death" had been completed, it could have led to the defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces

If only ... if only "would" interfere!

Under Pashinyan and K, this could not have been done Tatiana, in no case! Russia chose the "golden mean" of behavior .. The Armenians themselves punished themselves when they tried to betray Russia, hoping to the West, etc. History again taught them a good lesson in history. And they got what they deserved, this is still the minimum that could have happened to them, if not for Russia's geopolitical interests in this region
I hope they will understand and I will stop jumping ..

[krot]

And if the operation "gorge of death" led to the complete capture of Karabakh and the complete destruction of all Armenia, what is more like the truth?

[krutov]

Quote: krot

And if the operation "gorge of death" led to the complete capture of Karabakh and the complete destruction of all Armenia, what is more like the truth?

The truth is now one, our paratroopers came and very angry on both sides of the confrontation And we are there for a long time!
And who does not care about which side of the skullcap (anecdote) ..

[NTD]

Quote: krutov

And we are there for a long time!

where does such arrogance come from?

Quote: krutov

very angry on both sides

What did Azerbaijan do to make them VERY angry? Did you insult with posters? Are we going to NATO or the European Union? or would I just blurt out something?

[krutov]

Quote: MTN

where does such arrogance come from?

There is no arrogance, just such a job for Russia

Quote: MTN

What did Azerbaijan do to make them VERY angry? Did you insult with posters? Are we going to NATO or the European Union? or would I just blurt out something?

Our pilots were killed, 50 km from the conflict zone .. Is that not enough?
Turkey and I, somehow, have always been in our history, but here Aliyev attracted them and did not really hide them .. Here is the result!

[NTD]

Quote: krutov

There is no arrogance, just such a job for Russia

then I ask you not to confuse Azerbaijan with Armenia, because there is experience to say NO for Russia. We have the same job.

Quote: krutov

Our pilots were killed, 50 km from the conflict zone .. Is that not enough?

and that your pilot is flying over the border of Azerbaijan at night without notification? Do you think that a criminal case was opened in the Russian Federation against the base in Gyumri? Speak A Speak A and B
They wrote and chewed about it 1000 times, and despite the mistake of your command, ours apologized and said that we would figure it out.

[Clear]

Quote: MTN

Quote: krutov

There is no arrogance, just such a job for Russia

then I ask you not to confuse Azerbaijan with Armenia, because there is experience to say NO for Russia. We have the same job.

Quote: krutov

Our pilots were killed, 50 km from the conflict zone .. Is that not enough?

and that your pilot is flying over the border of Azerbaijan at night without notification? Do you think that a criminal case was opened in the Russian Federation against the base in Gyumri? Speak A Speak A and B
They wrote and chewed about it 1000 times, and despite the mistake of your command, ours apologized and said that we would figure it out.

Dear, if you do not understand the criminal law, then do not put a "shadow on the fence".
Our military investigators opened a criminal case on the fact of the Mi-24 helicopter crash, for which Azerbaijan assumed responsibility.
And, under investigation, while under the article on violation of flight rules or preparation for them, by the way, together with Azerbaijani and Armenian colleagues, because only within the framework of a criminal case, you can carry out procedural actions (examination, interrogation, seizure, appointment of an expert examination ... etc.). During the investigation, the article may be re-qualified to a more serious one.

[krot]

What did Azerbaijan do to make them VERY angry?

For the pilots, I would be so zhahnul that half of Azerbaijan was blown away with Turkey. But
it's me..

where does such arrogance come from?

Do you think the Turks are better for a long time?

[Clear]

Quote: krot

Do you think the Turks are better for a long time?

Yes, they are not better at once

[vitvit123]

As long as Russia allows work, don't forget to add too. Otherwise, you can be misunderstood.

[Souchastnik]

and that your pilot is flying over the border of Azerbaijan at night without notification?

The flight was carried out over the territory of Armenia. I don't think there is a duty to notify neighbors about flights. As far as I understand, there were no active hostilities in that area.
I draw a conclusion: your comrades are either unprofessional and nervous, or they were carrying out the task of implementing a provocation. In any case, the Russians don't really like it, or rather don't like it at all.

[Rubina]

Our pilots were killed, 50 km from the conflict zone .. Is that not enough?
Do you not trust Mr. Putin? He accepted the apology. With this helicopter, the story is dark. We will never know. Sorry for the pilots. Sorry.

[Clear]

Quote: Rubina

Do you not trust Mr. Putin? He accepted the apology.

The president has his own functions. Has the right to consider it appropriate.

Quote: Rubina

With this helicopter, the story is dark. We will never know.

Let not immediately, but we will find out. I'm sure.

Quote: Rubina

Pilots sorry.

unconditionally.

[sabakina]

Quote: MTN

Quote: krutov

And we are there for a long time!

where does such arrogance come from?

Quote: krutov

very angry on both sides

What did Azerbaijan do to make them VERY angry?

Do you know why? And besides that you have to die for your stones! And for what? So that you all want to get rid of your older brother? Who watered and fed ??? Shut up and shut up in a rag !!! The RSFR, Detkhan, brought you to socialism, but it was more convenient for you in feudalism!

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: sabakina

RI you, Detkhan, brought you to socialism

Russian empire them in socialism brought out ??
Is that, dying, or what, bequeathed the Koran to change the Communist Party manifesto?
What kind of nonsense from the turbopatriots can you not read ...

[krutov]

Quote: sabakina

Do you know why? And besides that you have to die for your stones! And for what? So that you all want to get rid of your older brother? Who watered and fed ??? Shut up and shut up in a rag !!! The RSFR, Detkhan, brought you to socialism, but it was more convenient for you in feudalism!

Well, you are cool Vyacheslav .. I was so afraid to answer ..
Russia again pulled away these "hot guys" by the scruffs and kicks in different directions, as usual everything was ... But then we have to disentangle everything
Mission is such a historical Russia ..
PS In vain Aliyev attracted Turkey in this conflict .. PR victory with him!

[NTD]

Quote: krutov

PS In vain Aliyev attracted Turkey in this conflict.

No really. Seeing everything here, Aliev did everything right! No matter how much you feed you, you will not look into our forest. The Türks have no friends except the Türks !!!! Well done Aliev !!!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MTN

The Türks have no friends except the Türks !!!! Well done Aliev !!!!

Here I agree with you, you are Turks and you are closer to each other. But Russia needs a neighbor with whom it is possible to live good-neighborly, without claims to each other, developing economic ties. And while since the collapse of the Union, they have always found compromises, without mutual reproaches. I hope it will continue to be so.

[Clear]

Quote: MTN

Quote: krutov

PS In vain Aliyev attracted Turkey in this conflict.

No really. Seeing everything here, Aliev did everything right! No matter how much you feed you, you will not look into our forest. The Türks have no friends except the Türks !!!! Well done Aliev !!!!

Well, then the Turks need to realize that the Eurasian or European unions with the Turks are a chimera

[Cossack 471]

Too shy to ask . and when did you feed us? And your millions are in our markets in honor of what holiday? Why not my brother. in Turkey ?

[vitvit123]

Oh how ...!
No matter how much you feed you, you will not look into our forest ..
And they fed them too? .. (there was an analogy in history).

[MstislavHrabr]

Yes. Now the Turks are in great demand. Uighurs alone are not enough ... to weaken China. There is absolutely not enough cannon fodder ... And with Iran ... it's easier to use a proxy than to fight yourself. And Russia can be weakened ... It is enough to invest a little money in order to remember the old grievances. Many neighbors may not be happy with the "reviving common Turkic self-awareness" ... Question. Will the Turks themselves be better off from this? Or they are used, and then thrown away as an unnecessary condom ... What can I say., Yes, the Anglo-Saxons are able to push their foreheads against people, nations and states that are disobedient to them and "rake in the heat with someone else's hands" ... Aliyev is great ... if he can not send the people of Azerbaijan to the slaughter for the sake of solving problems alien to them. In the meantime, we are waiting for the NATO base in Azerbaijan ...

[AGGURD]

Quote: krutov

Quote: sabakina

Do you know why? And besides that you have to die for your stones! And for what? So that you all want to get rid of your older brother? Who watered and fed ??? Shut up and shut up in a rag !!! The RSFR, Detkhan, brought you to socialism, but it was more convenient for you in feudalism!

Well, you are cool Vyacheslav .. I was so afraid to answer ..
Russia again pulled away these "hot guys" by the scruffs and kicks in different directions, as usual everything was ... But then we have to disentangle everything
Mission is such a historical Russia ..
PS In vain Aliyev attracted Turkey in this conflict .. PR victory with him!

HERE IS THE VILLAGE .... !! is it who took Kago by the scruff of his neck and put it in front of him ...!? Rather, it was Aliev who took Pshik and Vladimir by the scruff of his neck and made him write to one asking for forgiveness and the other to answer for him until he finally lost his vassal and his an outpost, by the way, who tried to jump off to the amerikosi ... but here is the whole trick in another whose military school and equipment will win Russian or Turkish ... the victorious Turkish and that means Vladimir signed that there will be no Kurdistan and the entire 20-year stay on smark ... but for one united Europe and America were left behind Cardon, but they wanted to bring their bases closer to Russia and Turkey

[Alex Vatnik]

Sorry, Pyrrhic victory ...

[NTD]

Quote: sabakina

And besides that you have to die for your stones!

our stones did not invite you to Karabakh. We were 2 km from Stepanakert. It is not me but the Armenians who should write this. I am a representative of the people to whom Karabakh is documented.

Quote: sabakina

did you all want to get rid of your older brother? Who watered and fed ???

Are you feeding Azerbaijan?

Quote: sabakina

Hit and be silent in a rag !!!

close your sewer yourself! stinks already.

Quote: sabakina

but it was more convenient for you in feudalism!

In our feudalism we felt very well without your Peter. It's better for you to sit in your kingdom of SABAKIN

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MTN

In our feudalism without your Peter it was very good for us.

Well, Peter did not join you to the Russian Empire. By the end of the 18th century, under the reign of Catherine II, the Russians advanced to the Caucasus. Some khans decided to accept Russian citizenship. The war that began in 1804 was a good reason for this. The Karabakh and Sheki khans in 1805 voluntarily annexed their khanates to the Russian Empire.
And they did it not for good. The Karabakh and Sheki khans in 1805 voluntarily annexed their khanates to the Russian Empire. For many years, anti-Iranian sentiments reigned in Shekina and uprisings took place, and Karabakh successfully fought off the Persian offensives for many years and was the most powerful Azerbaijani khanate at that time. So their voluntary accession to Russia raises no questions. If these khanates had not joined Russia, Iran would have taken them into its own hands.
I think that Catherine the Great did it in vain. There was no need for the races to do this. And having joined Russia received only a headache.
Now you are an independent state, live your own life and be good neighbors.

[Sertorius]

I think that Catherine the Great did it in vain. There was no need for the races to do this.

How in vain? Our interests in Transcaucasia were based under Catherine on that indisputable fact, which you yourself mentioned, that if not us, then there will be our enemies: Turkey and Persia, behind which loomed our "well-wishers" - the British. These khanates, which were de facto not independent, had to be annexed anyway. In fact, we took them from Persia as a result of several difficult wars.

So their voluntary accession to Russia raises no questions

Most of them. But there were khans and characters who would now be called "multi-vector". And there were just "scumbags" of khan blood with medieval thinking, such as the murderer of Prince Tsitsianov.

[Rubina]

Do you know why? And besides that you have to die for your stones! And for what? So that you all want to get rid of your older brother? Who watered and fed ??? Shut up and shut up in a rag !!! The RSFR, Detkhan, brought you to socialism, but it was more convenient for you in feudalism!

Well, you obviously had a grade at school.
- Did Russia feed and drink Azerbaijan Azerbaijan? Have you forgotten about oil? 100% of Soviet oil before the 30s, 86% during the war. We had a positive balance with Moscow throughout the Soviet regime. So Azerbaijan helped Moscow feed Armenia, that's another matter.
Feudalism? We had capitalism in full swing. Before the Soviet regime, we had a university, an oil technical school, a railway, a classical opera house, an Azerbaijani opera theater, engineering and technical personnel, and oil refineries.

[16329]

Only before the revolution, the majority of Azerbaijanis had a very indirect relationship to all this, and the national cadres were raised by the Soviet government

[Squelcher]

Rough but direct hit!

[Alex777]

Quote: krutov
And we are there for a long time!

where does such arrogance come from?

Does Azerbaijan need a road to Nakhichevan?
As long as ours are in Karabakh, as long as ours are on this road.

What did Azerbaijan do to make them VERY angry?

Have you seen the footage in which the Azerbaijani soldiers kick the crosses and rip off the bell?
I have never been a supporter of Armenians, but there is clearly too much on your part.
And the delay in the helicopter situation every day works against you.
Or do you not think so?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Alex777

Have you seen the footage in which the Azerbaijani soldiers kick the crosses and rip off the bell?

See with your eyes wide open. Expands horizons.

[NTD]

Quote: Alex777

Does Azerbaijan need a road to Nakhichevan?

Needed and received. It's a question of time. The place where the corridor will pass is documented by Azerbaijan. This area was leased for 100 years. The term ended last year.

Quote: Alex777

I have never been a supporter of Armenians, but there is clearly too much on your part.

You know my answers always came from a message addressed to me. I am a friend to those who respect us and spit on those who do not respect my people. I try to understand what people represent here and every time I am convinced that Russia is not our friend. There are, of course, normal boys, but in the bulk there is turkophobia.

[Deniso]

Quote: MTN

Quote: Alex777

Does Azerbaijan need a road to Nakhichevan?

Needed and received. It's a question of time. The place where the corridor will pass is documented by Azerbaijan. This area was leased for 100 years. The term ended last year.

Quote: Alex777

I have never been a supporter of Armenians, but there is clearly too much on your part.

You know my answers always came from a message addressed to me. I am a friend to those who respect us and spit on those who do not respect my people. I try to understand what people represent here and every time I am convinced that Russia is not our friend. There are, of course, normal boys, but in the bulk there is turkophobia.

Remember my dear Azerbaijani colleague once and for all and tell your colleagues, if of course they don’t know you for the Russian people, ALWAYS REMINDER !!!! will be as Sergei Bodrov Jr. said in the film "BROTHER" about you, you probably watched the film ...
No matter how good you are, you will always be for the Russian people and you will never have faith.

[no better place for]

And these people then complain that there is Russophobia all around. Turn the last friendly countries against you

[Aerodrome]

Quote: denis obuckov

No matter how good you are, you will always be for the Russian people and you will never have faith.

extremely not beautiful, I disagree. I have army friends on both sides, and I didn’t think about Bodrovsky nonsense to repeat. (the film is certainly cool, but .... not cool, there is kindling in it, and those who are not shown on the other side (you are not a brother me), but there is she, the other side.I do not agree.

[Alex777]

Needed and received. It's a question of time. The place where the corridor will pass is documented by Azerbaijan. This area was leased for 100 years. The term ended last year.

It would be interesting to see documentary evidence. I've never heard of anything like it.

I am a friend to those who respect us and I spit on those who do not respect my people. I try to understand what people represent here and every time I am convinced that Russia is not our friend.

Check out my posts. Everything is clear there.

There are, of course, normal guys, but in the bulk there is turkophobia.

The attitude towards Turkey, frankly, is tense. I am sure you understand that our military will never forgive Erdogan for the downed plane. And it is right. Many people think about the helicopter as well.
The majority have a friendly attitude towards the Azerbaijani people. By my own +/- I see.
Therefore, I see no reason to speak for all the Turks at once.
But when congresses of the diaspora are held on the territory of Russia and Russian citizens at these congresses declare that Derbent is an Azerbaijani territory - what would you do in the place of other Russian citizens?
I am sure that our relationship should be protected by both parties.
Less provoking each other.
And don't paint the world black and white.

[NTD]

Quote: Alex777

Even if it was, does this justify everything in your opinion?

Yes it does. Because the remark is made exclusively and constantly to the Azerbaijani side

[Alex777]

Yes it does. Because the remark is made exclusively and constantly to the Azerbaijani side

Your subjective point of view. About Armenians and their unwillingness to leave Rostov to defend Karabakh, the forum has written more than about all of Azerbaijan.
Do you not notice that you are provoking? Not?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex777

And the delay in the helicopter situation every day works against you.

Such provocative acts as with our helicopter do not lead to good neighborliness. There is no need to pull the bear by the tail.

[Alex777]

There is no need to pull the bear by the tail.

Totally for!

[Tank hard]

Quote: MTN

What did Azerbaijan do to make them VERY angry? Did you insult with posters? Are we going to NATO or the European Union? or would I just blurt out something?

Already tired of your kindness. So the guys are already fed up with kindness.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Tank Hard

Already tired of your kindness. So the guys are already fed up with kindness.

Azerbaijanis living on the territory of Russia behave very defiantly. I remember well from Peter, from the late 90s, and nothing has changed until now. If the Russians behaved like this in Azerbaijan, we would have been kicked out of there long ago.

[Clear]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: MTN

What did Azerbaijan do to make them VERY angry? Did you insult with posters? Are we going to NATO or the European Union? or would I just blurt out something?

Already tired of your kindness. So the guys are already fed up with kindness.

Presumably, I got tired of it and started moving from the bottom.
With God!

[Rusticolus]

What Azerbaijan did to make them VERY angry

Naturally, they immediately forgot about the helicopter, who would doubt Azer's cunning.

[Revival]

Yeah, they just forgot, but what do you call those who forgot?

[Fmax]

Azerbaijan is not exactly behaving. We need to throw off a couple of calibers on the tank, so that we no longer have to train in the accuracy of shooting at our helicopters.

[Revival]

This is (what you are answering) in every sense, if I were you, I would not pay attention at all))

[Revival]

In general, I read the comments that resulted from your initial correspondence with the local inadequate and I understand that the people cannot add 2 × 2, they immediately get excited, "climb into the bottle", and are completely unable to grasp the logic of the discussion and its root, alas ..
In this case, I sympathize, explain to them the "dead number" ..
Well, or of course, if we accept that everyone understood everything, then their position is apparently the following, we chkhally at the text of the agreement, I came here and that's it, and I won't go anywhere. why?
But because I said so and that's it.
Like an interpretation of the logic from "The Wolf and the Lamb" by Krylov, to be "honest" so to speak ...

[volodimer]

MTN, greetings !, From previous posts, I understand which side you are on. Not all are neutral here, therefore there are minuses and viciousness. I hope for your adequacy, there was a lot of fumbling here about how the Russians once again "solved" the Caucasian knot of problems. Neh rena, we just froze it,
But from the options for its solution ... this is eviction (this is at best ... or even genocide) this is when one of the parties wins (stories that we will not do this, but they can ... well, not I believe ..) Or you have to wait a very long time ... 70 years of the USSR was not enough.
About comments "And we are there for a long time!" Right, why do we need it? Demonstrative "Urya kryalka".
We need to live and be friends. And the fact that we are now military men in Azerbaijan for 5 years is a double-edged sword, we could be friends and allies without that. And without such manifestations.

[Grandfather Mykola]

It's just that you are lumps for them and they are angry with you that you make them wiggle their white rolls.

[NTD]

Quote: krutov

And we are there for a long time!

for 5 years.
and in 5 years let's say thank you and goodbye. We do not need peacekeepers, but Armenians. Consider the fact that in case of refusal to leave the territory of Azerbaijan in the case of 5 years later, Russia gets hostile Azerbaijan and you need this for the sake of those who offend you with posters and run around with toilets?

and seeing your messages, I don't even want to see these peacekeepers on my land for 1 day. For this, filter what you write.

[Icarus]

Seeing your messages, I don't even want to see these peacekeepers on my land for 1 day.

Then you have to rip out your eyes.

[NTD]

Quote: Icarus

Then you have to rip out your eyes.

I will suffer for 5 years.

[Alex777]

and seeing your messages, I don't even want to see these peacekeepers on my land for 1 day. For this, filter what you write.

I will suffer for 5 years.

Are you provoking again? What for?
And then you get offended?
Masochism?

[Revival]

And what does he provoke?
Everyone writes inadequately and arrogantly to him.
The person answers correctly if you take the context

[AGGURD]

Quote: MTN

Quote: Icarus

Then you have to rip out your eyes.

I will suffer for 5 years.

MNT is here, many Armenians in my opinion mow down Russians ... they talk like Armenian women provocateurs on TV .... you can't cope with them ... as they say ... "not one man in a dispute with a woman did not win" stay away from provocations ... let's go ... they have it hurting everywhere after the war

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: MTN

and seeing your messages, I don't even want to see these peacekeepers on my land for 1 day. For this, filter what you write.

I can not eat! AND ? Ponimayish !?

[hydro]

Have you beguiled MTNushka? You need to filter what else to write :) "why such arrogance?" You went far and for a long time, and maybe forever!)

[Deniso]

Quote: MTN

Quote: krutov

And we are there for a long time!

for 5 years.
and in 5 years let's say thank you and goodbye. We do not need peacekeepers, but Armenians. Consider the fact that in case of refusal to leave the territory of Azerbaijan in the case of 5 years later, Russia gets hostile Azerbaijan and you need this for the sake of those who offend you with posters and run around with toilets?

and seeing your messages, I don't even want to see these peacekeepers on my land for 1 day. For this, filter what you write.

Remember the clever Azerbaijani, the base is in Nagorno-Karabakh forever. Make it a clown on your nose ...

[AGGURD]

Quote: denis obuckov

Quote: MTN

Quote: krutov

And we are there for a long time!

for 5 years.
and in 5 years let's say thank you and goodbye. We do not need peacekeepers, but Armenians. Consider the fact that in case of refusal to leave the territory of Azerbaijan in the case of 5 years later, Russia gets hostile Azerbaijan and you need this for the sake of those who offend you with posters and run around with toilets?

and seeing your messages, I don't even want to see these peacekeepers on my land for 1 day. For this, filter what you write.

Remember the clever Azerbaijani, the base is in Nagorno-Karabakh forever. Make it a clown on your nose ...

Yes, yes, more often say like Armenians that Karabakh is Armenia ... bet a reason to return Dagesan, Yerevan and Crimea ... or maybe you are still Arminin ... that you are talking about Armenians ... to help not shake off the vassal who was going to join the Americans and you are here "we are forever" .. and you try to stay ...

[AGGURD]

"Remember the clever Azerbaijani, the base is in Nagorno-Karabakh forever. Make it a clown on your nose" .....
it means that we will have to knock out a lot of equipment, so we will have even more trophies ... well, we will prepare

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MTN

Consider also the fact that in case of refusal to leave the territory of Azerbaijan in the event of 5 years later, Russia gets hostile Azerbaijan

Judging by your words, you are not very friendly towards us even now. And we don't really bully you, even when you run around St. Petersburg Samara and other cities with Turkish flags. What would you do if we were running around Baku with Russian flags. So is it time to make a decision, or we live a good neighborly life, or you are leaving the Russian Federation.

[no better place for]

You are running around the world with immortal shelves and nothing like. Even in Turkey with Russian flags it is fine. Unlike you, there is no chauvinism

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Why is the immortal regiment caring you so? After all, this is a memory of a common victory, or did the Azerbaijanis not fight in the Second World War? Or maybe you are on Hitler's side?

[no better place for]

Personally, neither he nor anyone's flag crumbles me, unlike some who tear their hair in one place at the sight of the Turkish and Azeri flags

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

running around the world with immortal shelves

Forgive me, of course, but the style of your speech indicates that it just mangles, otherwise you would have written differently,
not so caustic

[no better place for]

Quite consistent with the style of the author to whom the reply was addressed. Even the words are the same. Just your d .. .. Oh, it doesn't smell. You can wave your flags in a foreign country, but you cannot. It doesn't work that way. Then be indignant when Russians 9 wave your flags in Turkey

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Just your d .. .. Oh, it doesn't smell

And where does the "immortal regiment" in general? there no one runs or waving flags, fireworks are not launched during the procession either, and they do not shout in a loud voice, as after the victory of their favorite football team. In addition, the "Immortal regiment", is an international event, and it applies not only to Russia but to all the winners in this terrible war, it is the memory of our ancestors, who gave their lives to stop the fascist plague! Apparently, mentally, you do not consider this victory yours, just as Ukrainian nationalists do not consider it theirs, everything is clear, I have no more questions

[no better place for]

Many people don't. Especially those whose families while they fought at the front, like cattle were driven in boxcars to the middle Asian steppes. And these are whole nations. But this is all different. You celebrate your victory day in countries that in no way participated in that war. And for millions of Azerbaijanis, Armenian fascism is just like German for you. In addition, Hitler's racial ideas are most common among you, as can be seen from the posts here. In every second it comes through. And one even frankly said the words of Bodrov from the film brother. Look in the mirror more often

[Clear]

Quote: MTN

and in 5 years let's say thank you and goodbye. We don't need peacekeepers

You know, I also think that it is better to know that you are hostile to us and to conduct a dialogue with you only officially, in accordance with internationally accepted laws.
Transfer millions to families for picking tomatoes from your native Turan, as now from Russia.

[Radius]

[quote = MTN] [quote = krutov] I don't want to see these peacekeepers on my land even for 1 day. . [/ quote]
To say that, you have to be independent. Wanting a little and nothing depends on the wishlist. Therefore, they do not ask you, they ask you. (As they ask from the Armenians) Do you catch the difference?

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

And seeing your messages, I don't want to look at Azerbaijanis in our markets, I don't need them here at all, can you take them?

[alpamys]

Quote: krutov

Quote: krot

And if the operation "gorge of death" led to the complete capture of Karabakh and the complete destruction of all Armenia, what is more like the truth?

The truth is now one, our paratroopers came and very angry on both sides of the confrontation And we are there for a long time!
And who does not care about which side of the skullcap (anecdote) ..

This skullcap trampled your flag and the president called names.

[hydro]

Good evening! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8rOXReth3c

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: krutov

The truth is now alone, our paratroopers came and very angry on both sides

what does the 15th Omsb Brigade have to do with the Airborne Forces?
Actually, anger is not the most useful emotion for a peacemaker, dear.

Quote: krutov

And we are there for a long time!

The timing of the MO is set at 5 years, it seems.

[hrych]

Quote: krot

the capture of Karabakh and the complete destruction of the armed forces of Armenia

Pegov is speaking correctly. Firstly, the Armenian Armed Forces never came to the war, and this is thanks to Pashinyan. The moment came when Armenia could no longer remain on the sidelines and Pashinyan could not think of anything better how to throw everything on the Russian Federation. This fact is not subject to appeal. The fact that the NKR divisions held out for more than a month says a lot and they held a wide front in three main directions. Moreover, it is precisely the broken southern front and access to the Armenian border that also speaks volumes. Here is Armenia, and here is the enemy, so what? Nothing. Yes, because Soros dictated the terms to Pashinyan, and the Soros funds were sucked by transnational corporations. The war between the Republic of Armenia and the Republic of Azerbaijan is inevitable blows on the enemy's oil infrastructure, and there are the interests of BP, Total, etc. Therefore, the interests of the Armenian people are not in terms of the sixes-soros of Sargsyan and Pashinyan. Pegov not only who, but was in place. Therefore, the information of military correspondents is always more valuable than the sofa analysis of home-grown strategists. If for more than a month the NKR army successfully held back the one hundred thousandth army, then what would happen if the Armenian army entered the battle? With aviation, with Iskander OTR and resources commensurate with AzR. And after all, the Armed Forces of the AzR overstrained, lost the best units, etc. Of course, 20 thousand also exhausted fighters, and even holding a wide front, cannot hold on indefinitely and conduct offensive operations ... even if Suvorov ..., but there was only loose Harutyunyan. Therefore, I repeat, Pegov's opinion is valuable.

[Alex777]

Pegov not only who, but was in place.
Therefore, I repeat, Pegov's opinion is valuable.

I'm interested!
Today Solovyov spoke very emotionally about the liberals, who "mimicked into supporters of GDP", who in their hearts dream of legalizing drugs. And I was worried how disgusting they would feel after the GDP clearly spoke out against the legalization of these drugs.
Why does this Pegov say what he says? Why does Soloviev give him ether? In order to question all the gains of the GDP to end the bloodshed?
How will he and Bagdasarov feel if they manage to shake the situation in this way and break the agreement?
What will happen if Pashinyan, on this wave raised by them, "the Armenians could win", were demolished and the war resumed?
Will this be an achievement of the "loyal Putinites" Solovyov, Bagdasarov and Pegov? Or does it sound like outright betrayal?

[hrych]

Pegov only outlined what he saw on the spot and the main postulate of his thought was not the defeat of the AzR in the "Death Gorge" area, but that the Armenian Armed Forces did not come to the aid of the NKR defense units. "Holes" could close

one combat-ready corps

which Pashinyan did not send. This is the main postulate of the analysis from the scene.

[Alex777]

"Holes" could close

one combat-ready corps

which Pashinyan did not send. This is the main postulate of the analysis from the scene.

Everyone knows that nobody recognized Karabakh. Not?
Therefore, not only the corps, but even some Armenian special forces did not want to fight. The NKR President was very sad about this.
Mriya Pegova, they are nothing. IMHO.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Alex777

Why does Soloviev give him ether?

Actually, the question is rhetorical)

[KKND]

Quote: hrych

Pegov is speaking correctly.

Quote: hrych

Pegov is not only who, but was in place. Therefore, the information of military correspondents is always more valuable than the sofa analysis of home-grown strategists.

Date 5 is November 2020

Quote: hrych

Therefore, I repeat, Pegov's opinion is valuable.

Well, yes, the same valuable opinion as yours. You exile to throw as you proved, argued with me that the Armenians are highlanders and Azerbaijanis are plains?
And now here on the resource you tell tales about cunning plans? Where do you get the "plans"? Or don't you need it?

[hrych]

Quote: KKND

Armenians are highlanders and Azerbaijanis are plains?

So what? Not this way? If Armenia DIDN'T COME to the war. What do you want with your "valuable and wise" opinion? In fact, Russia occupied Karabakh, at least most of it, took over the Armenian population of Karabakh and the entire twenty thousandth NKR defense army ... for itself. Come on, object that it is not.

[Shahno]

// In fact, Russia occupied Karabakh, at least most of it, took the Armenian population of Karabakh and the entire twenty thousandth NKR defense army ... for itself. //
Very interesting ... what happened?

[KKND]

That is, the plains lived in Karabakh? Ahahaha.

Quote: hrych

In fact, Russia occupied Karabakh, at least most of it, took over the Armenian population of Karabakh and the entire twenty thousandth NKR defense army ... for itself.

We took another hemorrhoids for ourselves, but here it already had to be done.

Quote: hrych

Come on, object that it is not.

Are you drawing all the victory for yourself there? What's the point? Explain what is the point of drawing victory here? How will this help the Russians? I would listen without jokes. Maybe I don't understand what?

[hrych]

Quote: KKND

How will this help the Russians?

Control of the Transcaucasus is called. It's called road control. Everyone forgets the main thing that there will be a road from the Russian Federation to Armenia and Nakhichevan and it will be under the control of the FSB. This is an economic benefit for everyone, including Russia, and this road will connect the regions of Iran with us. Nakhichevan was pulled out of the clutches of the Turks and full control of Baku is returned there. The base in Stepanokert and the base in Gyumri, which the magpies dreamed of replacing with a NATO base, have been preserved. By the way, we also take the Armenian population of Karabakh around our neck, not a million. And if we are an Empire, then we have to do such things, and not sit straight on the seat. And at the expense of the natural highlanders. 20 thousand fellow believers ... will be useful in the Caucasus, oh, how useful.

[KKND]

Yes, I understand that the Kremlin made the right decision, I mean, why try to imagine that we won a major victory? The situation has worsened slightly, or maybe not slightly, but in 5 years it can become even worse? I am against alarmism, although I can be accused of it quite rightly, I was often a coward in my life, but is it also sense to live in Russian illusions? We must realistically try to look at life and propaganda the same message. "Throwing hats" is not the best option as well as "everything is lost."
It's not nice that it all worked out. I have an idea that Erdogan is forgiven for his antics in the West because they like how he crap on us. So I knew that "being friends" was not worth it. Of course, the Kremlin perfectly understood what kind of "friend" he was, and they were just building a view, it was not necessary anyway.
Okay, damn something, but we definitely know how to fight and love.

Quote: hrych

Base in Stepanokert

It seems that Stepanakert will soon leave the Azerbaijanis together with the region under a peace treaty, but I'm not sure.

[Alex777]

20 thousand fellow believers

Who are you talking about?
I agree with the rest.

[vlad106]

Quote: hrych

20 thousand fellow believers ... will be useful in the Caucasus, oh, how useful.

what "fellow believers"?
they are MONOPHISITES. Orthodox priests consider them HERETICS.
I needed such happiness

[Alex777]

Armenia did not appear for the war.

Gold words. And there is no need to look for other reasons.
It's not Pashinyan's business, but Armenia.

[vlad106]

Quote: hrych

If Armenia DIDN'T COME to the war. What do you want with your "valuable and wise" opinion? In fact, Russia occupied Karabakh, at least most of it, took the Armenian population of Karabakh and the entire twenty-thousandth NKR defense army ... for itself. Come on, object that it isn't

do we really need it?

[Past the crocodile]

That's right - Armenia is completely mountains. And in Azerbaijan, Avars, Lezgis and part of the Talysh live in the mountains, that is, they are not Turks, but autochthonous peoples.

[Past the crocodile]

If the government of Azerbaijan does not slow down the Nazi rhetoric, then the war will flare up again. It's a pity. Both peoples deserve peace. And Russia doesn't need a headache either.
And good luck to Semyon. I hope they won't put him in prison like Lapshin.

[Clear]

Quote: Past Crocodile

Both peoples deserve peace

Yes, enough about peoples in an uncertain status.
Who chose Pashinyan? Not the people? Who was silent when the Russian schools were closed, not the people? Who in Azerijan will shout "we love the Turks, but the Russians are out ..." not the people?
Enough!
Enough to allow diasporas to create their own enclaves in Russia who do not want to comply with our laws ...
All relations are strictly within the legal framework. We don't give a damn about all the Pashinyans, Erdogans and Aliyevs.
Don't wake up ...

[Past the crocodile]

Yes please.

Quote: Clear

Stop letting

I am for it".

Quote: Clear

We don't give a damn about all the Pashinyans, Erdogans and Aliyevs.

What do you intend to do to investigate the attack on the Mi-24?
How are you going to resolve the issue with Novorossiya and Little Russia?

[Clear]

Quote: Past Crocodile

What do you intend to do to investigate the attack on the Mi-24?

Investigate. And wherein

Quote: Past Crocodile

We don't give a damn about all the Pashinyans, Erdogans and Aliyevs.

Quote: Past Crocodile

How are you going to resolve the issue with Novorossiya and Little Russia?

The time will come, dramatically! And wherein

Quote: Clear

We don't give a damn about all the Pashinyans, Erdogans and Aliyevs.

Best regards

[vlad106]

Quote: Past Crocodile

What do you intend to do to investigate the attack on the Mi-24?
How are you going to resolve the issue with Novorossiya and Little Russia

Armenians are not affected!
you investigate why none of yours wanted to defend their homeland ...

[mole]

Quote: hrych

Therefore, I repeat, Pegov's opinion is valuable.

Excuse me, from the article I understood that in the gorge of death it is possible for five to keep the Army of Azerbaijan. Yes, it is possible - if this Army is pushed there, and five "Armenians" or "Spartans"? fire arts will adjust. Then maybe.
But do not forget about the air.
These conversations ... would, ... would. History has no subjunctive mood. Azerbaijanis won. Their victory, well, the Armenians - to study military science properly!

[Past the crocodile]

Here is one objection - let both sides learn to sow and build, not fight.

[mole]

Quote: Past Crocodile

Here is one objection - let both sides learn to sow and build, not fight.

I fully support, but Experience is the son of mistakes, suggests: agriculture does not give such emotions and such benefits! Unfortunately!!!

[Alex Nevs]

What military affairs? Taxi to the nearest town to give a ride-destiny. They don't know history. They spat into their own well and drank from it until they were full (loss of territories). In short, the generation of the "OK Google" type.

[hrych]

Quote: Mole

Azerbaijanis won.

The Karabakh issue has not been resolved, only a tactical success. For more than a month, the well-equipped army of XNUMX could not break the XNUMX-strong NKR defense army without aviation, modern weapons and without support. Losses of the elite units of Azerbaijan Republic are unacceptable, etc. Therefore, it is the Azerbaijanis who need to learn to fight. The main task of the NKR Defense Army is to contain the main blow and wait for the main forces of the Armenian Armed Forces. They broke the Blitzkrieg and held out for more than a month. Well, IN GENERAL, there can be no claims to them. For more than a month, it is worth a lot to contain an army that is many times larger. Therefore, everything is relative. But the Republic of Armenia never came to the war.

[mole]

Quote: hrych

Quote: Mole

Azerbaijanis won.

The Karabakh issue has not been resolved, only a tactical success. ...
But the Republic of Armenia never came to the war.

Do you believe it yourself !? Armenia did not come to the war ??? Who was stopping her? There would be a desire, there will be opportunities !!!

[vlad106]

Quote: Mole

These conversations ... would, ... would. History has no subjunctive mood. Azerbaijanis won. Their victory, well, the Armenians - to study military science properly!

Why should they learn this business?
The main thing for them is to be able to cut the loot and "shoe" the simpletons in this case, the Russians.
Yes, and you need to get across the border to Russia, hide behind the Russians and demand to go to fight for "such drifty, brave and clever Aryans" while they are guarding their peaches in the markets ...
In the meantime, these "Aryans" will pluck the Russians, vparivat some bullshit, or dead meat in their cafes, eateries, rygalovki.
With all this, they manage to rob, kill, rape. Those who want to know the details, type in the Internet "lawlessness of Armenians"

[voyaka uh]

"Firstly, the Armenian Armed Forces never came to the war" ////
----
Not only appeared, but a month later they were thoroughly destroyed.
The last three Armenian tanks tried to recapture Shusha, which was captured by special forces,
but the drones knocked them out the next day.
The whole Karabakh has become one big "gorge of death" for regular
Armenian army.

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

The entire Karabakh became one big "gorge of death" for the regular Armenian army.

But but All regular. All fifty thousand and both are two tanks

[Alex777]

You are here confusing something dear.
One of the claims to Pashinyan is that the 40 thousandth army of Armenia remained in the barracks.
And the Su-30 did not fly, and the Iskanders were not allowed.
Statements about 2 starts before delivery are an obvious fake.
In NKR, their army and volunteers fought. How they could.

[voyaka uh]

There was no separate army of Karabakh. The defense was held by the regular army of Armenia and volunteers from all over Armenia, including from Karabakh, of course.
The population of Karabakh is tiny - 150 thousand people. Which army? And the population of the whole of Armenia is small.
All the best troops from all over Armenia sat on the outer ring of the fortifications of Karabakh.
All the equipment and many soldiers died there.

[Alex777]

The population of Karabakh is tiny - 150 thousand people. Which army?

Artsakh's army was 20.
And volunteers.
How many now - I do not know.

[voyaka uh]

A population of 150,000 cannot have an army of 20,000. It's not possible at all.

[Alex777]

That's it. Links on request in Google "army of Karabakh" are easy to find. Choose which one you like.

https://www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/articles/232516/

[voyaka uh]

Russia, with a population of 140 million, has an army of 1 million.
The USA, with a population of 330 million, has an army of 1 million.
China, with a population of 1.4 billion, has an army of 2 million.
Think about the proportions between population and size
armed forces. Estimate the percentage

[Alex777]

Uh ... This is Armenia. There are proportions.

[vlad106]

[quote = voyaka uh]
-4
There was no separate army of Karabakh ...
... All the best troops from all over Armenia sat on the outer ring of the fortifications of Karabakh ... / quote]

Aha! "all the best fought in Karabakh" ...
The best of them were in Russia. On the trade front ...

[mole]

Quote: voyaka uh

Not only appeared, but a month later they were thoroughly destroyed.
The last three Armenian tanks tried to recapture Shusha, which was captured by special forces,
but the drones knocked them out the next day.
The whole Karabakh has become one big "gorge of death" for regular
Armenian army.

Well, maybe not quite so, but something like this. How it was in reality - much later will become known.

[Igor Berg]

complete capture of Karabakh and complete destruction of the armed forces of Armenia

and what, after all, the whole army of Armenia was in Karabakh? Not a single soldier left on the territory of Armenia? They all invaded the territory of the state of Karabakh, unrecognized by anyone and Armenia? Wow, that would be a cauldron ... Or someone was going to attack Armenia itself in someone's inflamed brains?

[mole]

Quote: Igor Berg

and what, after all, the whole army of Armenia was in Karabakh? Not a single soldier left on the territory of Armenia? They all invaded the territory of the state of Karabakh, unrecognized by anyone and Armenia? Wow, that would be a cauldron ... Or someone was going to attack Armenia itself in someone's inflamed brains?

Something suggests that they could have reached Yerevan for sure, there was no goal. Hold, another question. Azerbaijan will not attack Armenia, the CSTO will protect it.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: krot

And if the operation "gorge of death" led to the complete capture of Karabakh and the complete destruction of all Armenia, what is more like the truth?

What is Pegov's Armenian "counteroffensive" !? When it turned out that the Armenians ran out of artillery ammunition, while others were running out! With what fire support were they going to "counterattack"? Or without it? What forces, if the deserters counted at least 10.000 "copies"! This is, somewhere, the fifth part (!) Of the Artsakh Armed Forces! And it was also about the fact that there could be much more deserters! Is this a "counter-offensive" like an anecdote "about Vasily Ivanovich"? Remember ...? Petka: "Vasily Ivanovich! Behind the" whites "! VI: Forward, Petka, to the" whites "! The earth is round! Perhaps we will catch up ...!" ...

[nikon7717]

Here I read the article. Part of the comments. The statement is very similar to stuffing information in order to discredit the current president of Armenia. This is a tactical move with a strategic goal in politics. Only it is not clear to me yet who is the new force here, the contender for power in Armenia.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: nikon7717

The statement is very similar to stuffing information in order to discredit the current president of Armenia

that is, Pashinyan has not yet broken the bottom?

[Revolver]

Quote: krot

And if

And if my grandmother had personal belongings, her grandmother would be a transvestite grandfather.

[vlad106]

PEGOF GRAMATEI! Of course, he graduated from some serious military university. or at least the military department ... the talent just bursts out of him

[Aerodrome]

Is VO degrading, or is it trying to show everything, say "points of view"? okay ... I agree ... but "pegs" ... this is too ... what are you guys? do not respect yourself, at least respect us.

[antivirus]

in 2002 I was traveling in a train with one Azeri: "Karabakh was sold and there is no strength to redeem it."
in 2020 they raised money for his redemption-Victory (or with a small letter).
----- Who was paid - the main question ?????????????????????

[fruc]

... Military commander Pegov also added that "the Armenian army fought in Karabakh indirectly." According to him, many gaps could be hidden by another combat-ready corps ...

Another "strategist" in the operational direction of the NKR showed up.

[Maki Avellevich]

all ingenious is simple!
we take 5 soldiers with grenade launchers and drive the enemy's nasty broom.
just think how much time and effort the countries of the globe spent on the acquisition of various weapons and training of soldiers at a time when the Armenians knew the secret of brilliant victories by five soldiers.
yeah

[Babayka babaykin]

Pegov Armenian funny henchman

[nobody75]

There are only lessons to be learned

You are absolutely right ... And from whose name should they be "extracted"?
Sincerely

[Boris Chernikov]

Exactly ... there was no extra corps

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

Exactly ... there was no extra corps

and preferably two cases, so that for sure

[Boris Chernikov]

and a motorized division in reserve

[your1970]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

and a motorized division in reserve

And the 1st tank army ... Then it would be - yeah.,

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: nnm

They don't wave their fists after a fight ..

After the war, they still wave. How many examples in history have there been when troops won battles, and diplomats and officials after the war multiplied all victories by "0". True, Pashinyan with his narrow-minded mind is probably not the case. But the cunning of the Armenian diaspora should not be underestimated.

[max702]

"Oh we would give them if they caught up with us!" and also "You are a coward, you are a slave, You are an Armenian!"
the classic already understood everything then ..

[halpat]

If the operation in the "gorge of death" were brought to an end, it could lead to the defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces.

If not for grandmother's shaggy women, grandfather's beaters would have frozen.

I somehow stopped trusting Mr. Pegov for his obvious commitment.

[iouris]

Quote: nnm

After a fight, they don't wave their fists ...

At first glance (and even at second) the article is ordered. The goal of the war (from all sides) is the defeat of Armenia, after which the dominance of Turkey (and NATO) is established in the region. The President of Armenia (it turns out) came from London. In Armenia, at least half of the "electorate" believes that under the leadership of these two agents, Armenia is moving to Europe with leaps and bounds. They regard the "Karabakh problem" with its refugees as an annoying hindrance.
The head of MI6 is a prominent British Turkologist and diplomat, an acquaintance of Erdogan and Aliyev. In general, everything is clear about his creature Pashinyan.
The end of the war suspended the development of the situation according to the scenario created by British intelligence, on whose fingers Erdogan and everything, everything, everything.
The Turks no longer ask Azerbaijan to send or not to send troops to Azerbaijan. It seems that Aliyev got his bearings in time. But to stop the war, the Mi-24 had to be shot down, two officers were killed.

[KKND]

They forgot to tell Pegov that after the fight they don't wave their fists. But this Armenian propagandist disgraced himself throughout the war about the victories of the Armenian army, and after the war, out of habit, he decided to disgrace himself.

[ANB]

Yes, if the seven did not hold me, I would have torn them all, like a hot water bottle.
:)

[t-12]

According to Pegov, the essence of the idea was as follows: a small group of up to five people, armed with grenade launchers, destroyed about fifty enemy soldiers in a narrow corridor.

And this would lead to "complete defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces"?

[Asad]

It turns out how easy it was to win!

[2 Level Advisor]

sorry Pegov was not taken to the General Staff of Karabakh .. otherwise b .. uuuuh ..

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: 2 level advisor

sorry Pegov was not taken to the General Staff of Karabakh .. otherwise b .. uuuuh ..

The classic is immediately remembered

At present, the orderlies are scattered throughout our republic and talk about their heroic deeds. They de stormed Sokal, Dubno, Nish, Piava. Each of them is Napoleon. "So I say to our colonel: let him, they say, call the headquarters, that you can start."

[karima]

Quote: 2 level advisor

sorry Pegov was not taken to the General Staff of Karabakh .. otherwise b .. uuuuh ..

What do you mean, with such an analysis of the situation, he is at least in the Russian General Staff, or even know, I suppose he is aiming for dictators ...

[Doccor18]

.. another combat-ready corps.

The term "combat-ready corps" is not entirely clear. If in the generally accepted interpretation, then the entire Armenian army can fit into the corps, and even vacant posts will remain.
And just in general, all this sounds like an information scandal like: "we would have them, but we were not given" ...

[Avior]

"we would have given them as much if they had caught up with us"

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Doccor18

The term "combat-ready corps" is not entirely clear.

The Azerbaijanis in one corps (2nd) won the war. The 1st corps, in the north of Karabakh, essentially stood for the whole war. So Pegov is logical as logic itself

[tralflot1832]

Well, now friends from Azerbaijan will come off! Their theme.

[krutov]

Quote: tralflot1832

Well, now friends from Azerbaijan will come off! Their theme.

Yes, it has been a month since they have been coming off and not only here, but also in Moscow, with their own and Turkish flags. Here is the most interesting thing, and before that our turntable was shot down.
There is something to think about for all of us ..

[karima]

Quote: krutov

Quote: tralflot1832

Well, now friends from Azerbaijan will come off! Their theme.

Yes, it has been a month since they have been coming off and not only here, but also in Moscow, with their own and Turkish flags. Here is the most interesting thing, and before that our turntable was shot down.
There is something to think about for all of us ..

Think mikhan, think, I suppose he has already thought up for everyone, so tell me, don't be weary.

[Asad]

I do not consider neither Pegov nor Solovyov as journalists, propagandists, yes! How they drowned for Armenia! A journalist should at least try to be neutral, as far as the owner allows.

[Graz]

you are confusing the official news program, where events should really be presented impartially with the personal opinion of a specific presenter in his program, here I will remind you of democracy with freedom of speech and thought

[Asad]

Previously, I constantly listened to on the radio, but when the drivers began to strike against Plato, at least he gave a hint! And about the farmers' trip to Moscow, and so on.

[Graz]

by the way, if you listened to Solovyov, he is very skeptical about Pashinyan, and even those comrades that are now tearing their soles in Yerevan at the expense of betrayal, they say, where were all these people before that the war is going on for 2 months, why didn’t volunteer then

[Asad]

Soloviev is very talented and smart, but he is not a patriot, he is just a highly paid propagandist

[alpamys]

Quote: ASAD

Soloviev is very talented and smart, but he is not a patriot, he is just a highly paid propagandist

he is a physics teacher

[Past the crocodile]

Did Solovyov also stream in Novorossiya and Artsakh?

[loki565]

Poking on the latest videos, they didn’t beg to do anything and acted in separate groups, without communication, even on collector's armored cars.

[maktub]

Pegov - "balabol" rare. Wishful thinking

[Avior]

The Armenian military commander Pegov has made up so many things that it is simply not serious to take his statements seriously.

[Rudkovsky]

Could have led, but did not.

[Old tanker]

If the operation in the "gorge of death" was brought to an end, it could lead to the defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces
"Dreamer, you called me ...
Dreamer, only this is not enough "...

[Greenwood]

I see Pegov has an orgasm from the word "grind". In Hadrut, they regularly "grind" Azerbaijanis in the company of semi-mythical Turkish special forces. Then in Shusha. It almost reached Stepanakert. And the farther the Azeri people advanced into the depths of Karabakh, the more Pegs "grind" them. So they would grind, until all of Karabakh would have gone to Azerbaijan. Syoma would have listened to himself and the nonsense that carries from the outside and would have ceased to be a disgrace. It's a shame for such journalism.

[Old tanker]

He is not a journalist, he is a blogger. What I want is milk.

[Stock]

I completely agree with you, but some do not understand this or do not want to understand and accept everything as the truth of the first instance

[vlad106]

Quote: Old Tanker

He is not a journalist, he is a blogger. What I want is milk.

Blocher most likely

[Konnick]

Quote: Greenwood

It's a shame for such journalism.

The money must be worked out, not the journalist Pegov, but the propagandist, the mouthpiece of Gabrelyanov.

[Old tanker]

Well, yes, every gopher is an agronomist in the field. Every blogger imagines himself to be a strategist.
Eh nobody listened to Semyon, the people's "Suvorov" disappeared.

[Alexey RA]

Pegov stated that if the operation in the so-called "gorge of death" by the Armenian troops had been brought to an end, then "everything could have ended with a complete defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces."
Pegov adds that the NKR defense army "was ready to launch a counter-offensive in Martuni, but the operation was not completed." Who did not let it be completed is the main question, according to Semyon Pegov.

Yes Yes Yes, the invincible German army was stabbed in the back by civilians in the rear.

[rocket757]

If only ... it is now possible to guess, but the fact of defeat is taking place.
It will take a long time to figure out the reasons, no one wants to expose everything that is under the head.

[parusnik]

- "What's stopping a bad dancer?
- Tight shoes? Slippery floor? "(from)

[Egor53]

Well, enough tryndet about the "great Karabakh warriors" who almost kicked the Azeri army ... but the vile politicians did not let them do it.

Armenia outright lost the war to Azerbaijan. And if not for Russia with our peacekeepers, then the Azerbaijani troops would have already taken Yerevan.
And then everyone would talk long and tediously about the union with Armenia.
Armenians generally do not want to live in Armenia - they like Moscow, Paris and Los Angeles more.
The people who stubbornly do not want to live in their country do not command much respect.

[businessv]

Military commander Pegov also added that "the Armenian army fought indirectly in Karabakh." According to him, many gaps could have been hidden by another combat-ready corps.

IMHO, a very controversial statement! What we saw on ANNA-News and Pegov's statement differ greatly in meaning. And the video sequence is not very conducive to changing this opinion. I don’t understand, is this a provocation, or under-catch? The attitude of the Armenian militias does not cause any complaints, only their number and weapons raise a lot of questions. I repeat: God grant peace to this long-suffering land and its inhabitants!

[7,62x54]

All around Nightingale droppings

[Nikolaevich I]

"Voenkor" Pegov - yap! With his "reports" he has already proved it!

[Federal1]

Clown Pegov just shut up the whole network laughs with you ... Don't dirty the place with this clown

[Chilean Abalon]

The question is not that Pegov is a clown, the question is why publish this nonsense on VO.

[Bumblebee_3]

Question to members of the forum: how do you think - Pegov reads what they write about him on VO? Or does he not care?

[Avior]

VO has a fairly high rating among similar resources

[Garry]

Azer bots, Th were excited then?

[Double major]

If only, if only, then mushrooms would grow in my mouth ...

[Bakinec]

And I thought that Pegov was still in Hadrut. Grinds Azerbaijani DRG

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Bakinec

And I thought that Pegov was still in Hadrut. Grinds Azerbaijani DRG

He is fighting thousands of Syrian mercenaries from Istanbul, who are trying in vain to block his path to Baku, to the Israeli drone control center.

[Master]

I thought he was dead already. With his friend, disinformation champion Mihran, who promised to shoot himself if Azerbaijan takes Shusha))

[Bumblebee_3]

Master (Rustam)
There was also a defense minister in Azerbaijan, who also promised to shoot a bullet in the forehead if the Armenians take Shusha. Don't you remember that?

[Master]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Master (Rustam)
There was also a defense minister in Azerbaijan, who also promised to shoot a bullet in the forehead if the Armenians take Shusha. Don't you remember that?

No, I do not remember. But if this was the case. Now he has a place next to Mihran and Aratyunan.

[sergo1914]

Five people kill hundreds of enemy special forces with grenade launchers? Along the way, Pegov watched the entire The Expendables cycle with Slay and other veteran militants. Maybe he's just talking about the movie?

[Gennady Fomkin]

it is desirable to incite Turkey into a conflict somewhere far from Russia's interests

[mag nit]

Syoma Pegov - announcer of "Armenian Radio".

[Zzzz]

Will not calm down, selling tv..r

[Igor Berg]

that this Pegov self-praise and populist ... just to be heard ..

[flicker]

if the operation in the so-called "gorge of death" by the Armenian troops had been brought to an end, then "everything could have ended in complete defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces." This statement of Semyon Pegov is now actively disseminated by the Armenian media.

Someone really wants to continue the war.
And this information just pours water on the mill of those whose plans were violated by the introduction of peacekeepers. Someone is interested in breaking the accepted agreement. The Anglo-Saxons were the arsonists and the agreement on the introduction of peacekeepers does not fit into their scenario. They're driving a blizzard, like the Karabakh army won.
They provoke Armenians to break the agreement.
They have already divorced the Armenians, promising them to recognize the independence of Artsakh (that is, they played on the boundless love of Armenians for Artsakh), and now they want to use a different feeling - the desire to return the situation.
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To rush from one extreme to another.
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Infa about the fact that the Karabakh army won is more than doubtful - the change in the battle map is evidence of this.
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[Tank hard]

Quote: flicker

Someone really wants to continue the war.

It is known to whom. Moldova is next in line.

[flicker]

Well, yes, they place their people everywhere.
Example, Armenia:

Armenian President Armen Sarkissian told reporters that he gave British Prince Charles a small garden on the territory of the republic.

"Prince Charles is a great friend of Armenia, for many years he has been helping the project" Yerevan - my love ", which I initiated in 2010. He knows the history of Armenian architecture very well and came here (in May 2013) to see Armenia. friendship is of (material) value, this is a small garden that belonged to my family, my sons and his sons, which I gave him, "said the president.

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Tolya Sargsyan's share, or Prince Charles thanked Armen so.
Pashinyan seemed to be a decoration, and Sargsyan ran the drain of Karabakh.
When Pashinyan realized what was happening he took the liberty and signed an agreement than SPAS part of Karabakh and the lives of young Armenian guys.
And how he broke the Anglo-Saxon script.
And people like Pegov seem to want this scenario back.

[Avior]

Pegov is an Anglo-Saxon, do you think?

[iouris]

Journalism is also an ancient profession.

[German Titov]

Or to the liquidation of Armenia. Military correspondents are notable strategists. Newspaper "Frunzevets" (Who remembers) - "Fire!" Lieutenant Ivanov commanded. Targets bleeding into the mountains ... "

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Classic:

In the old fortress it had to be taken through a pipe ...

[APASUS]

What is changing now? Now it is necessary to discuss further plans, and not the possible defeat of Azerbaijan

[Grognag]

Grandmother would be a grandfather if she had ..., and so the ending was quite expected, since war is always a battle of economies, plus Azerbaijan is technologically equipped at a different level, so let's hope that everyone who needs lessons learned

[sergey_please]

https://youtu.be/7BROz8gCbsM

[sergey_please]

Insert YouTube video by pegov

[babylon]

Various "wise men" begin to pour from empty to empty
The pattern is simple, if there were no color revolution in Armenia, then there would be no war

[karima]

Quote: vavilon

Various "wise men" begin to pour from empty to empty
The pattern is simple, if there were no color revolution in Armenia, then there would be no war

Yah? And what would they otherwise equip their army? Pashinyan is only a reflection of Armenian sentiments and desires. Change the name - the essence remains.

[Scorpio05]

Again "Voennoye Obozreniye" launched the duck of this priest Gapon and the liar Semyon Pegov. The Armenians owe a lot for their defeat to S. Pegov and Gabrielyanov, who had long forgotten about dreams of "great" Armenia and decided to spend the rest of his days in his cozy Parisian apartment in the company of the corps de ballet from Moulin Rouge)) style: The army of Wenka is on the way, the enemy groupings are surrounded and destroyed by the glorious troops of the Armenian Wehrmacht, he brought the Armenians under the monastery. The Armenians were already intoxicated by their propaganda that they were a little or Israel), and here Pegov (with Gabrielyanov) did the Armenians a disservice with their bravura reporting.
The scenery suddenly changes, and in the gloom of the safe house, the fighter of the invisible front, Pegov (quietly but solemnly) is presented with an award and an extraordinary title by the corresponding service of one small country. A stingy man's tear of gratitude glass on Semyon's red stubble, on a plate next to a glass of Kurdamur wine, a lonely piece of eggplant dolma stuffed with lamb, a branded Zirin tomato and a chunk of spongy motal cheese brought from his homeland were waiting for the hero alone.
Everything, the curtain ...

[Icarus]

Quote: MTN

Quote: Icarus

Then you have to rip out your eyes.

I will suffer for 5 years.

Everything will be decided much earlier than 5 years (unfortunately). My opinion is that our peacekeepers have nothing to do in Karabakh, especially at our expense. But thanks to the stupidity of the Supreme, the Russian soldier will have to force someone to peace once again.

[Klausp]

Such post-fight statements are common to any side, regardless of competence, be it a winner or a loser. But the whole nuance is that among the losers in this war there are three sides at once, three peoples: Azerbaijani, Turkish and Armenian. Armenia is punished for pride, Azerbaijan is punished for revenge, and Turkey for greed. Moreover, do it yourself! The infantilism of these peoples is striking, but not surprising - the whole history of the formation of these nations speaks for itself. And all these peoples have already been repeatedly punished by each other, for the same reasons, each in its own time, in its own way. But history never taught them anything. The geopolitical interests of Russia did not allow, fortunately for these peoples, to see yet another depth of moral decline and unbearable suffering of the fathers and mothers of Azerbaijanis, Turks and Armenians. However, based on historical premises, the war of these three peoples will continue, and neither Turkey, nor Armenia, nor Azerbaijan can and do not want to either change or cancel this. And only Russia can maintain the status quo, up to a certain limit of patience, of course. Sofa "fighters" of all three sides-losers can wish for war as much as they want, as well as sarcasm and slander - it is much safer for them than to squeeze under shelling into a limestone crumb with an unshaven and dirty cheek. However, a Kalashnikov assault rifle in the hands of a Russian soldier standing firmly in Nagorno-Karabakh is a fait accompli. And there it is not far from Constantinople ... Yes, and for the events of 89-93, the answer must be kept. Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Graz

you are confusing the official news program, where events should really be presented impartially with the personal opinion of a specific presenter in his program, here I will remind you of democracy with freedom of speech and thought

Why, when V. Solovyov or Artyom Sheinin had four Armenians (and not a single Azeri) discussing what Russia should do with Azerbaijan and how, no one remembered this very "freedom" of speech and thought, as well as democracy. Freedom of speech is when P. Tolstoy hayal and boorishly insulted Azerbaijan on air throughout the Russian Federation? There is an opinion that this is a purposeful policy on central channels, moreover, encouraged by the management of the channels and their curators. I remember how Artem Sheinin in his program reassured the Armenians, they say, nothing, we need to prepare better and we will still be happy ... Sheinin wants a revenge and others? Such statements are remembered. In Azerbaijan, they observe with bewilderment such tendencies prevailing in Russian television (and not only). Public opinion is powerfully processed in the Russian Federation in a pro-Armenian direction. People in Azerbaijan are wondering what is going on there in general? Alarming. It seems that in Azerbaijan, Russian flags were never massively burned, they were not mocked at them, and in general they treat the Russian Federation with emphasized respect.
So that there is still freedom of speech. In a word, some kind of hypocrisy.

[nikolaevskiy78]

To be fair, it must be said that our media did not actually report from the other side - from the Azerbaijani side. It turns out that with such an interethnic intensity (and everything is really white-hot there), information from the other side was actually not received. On the one hand, Armenia, yes, a formal ally in the CSTO, on the other hand, there is the fact of the presence of occupied territories and normal relations with the state of Azerbaijan, which legally fought on its territory. And so it turns out that the one-sided feed was. However, all this is already a matter of personal preference.

[Peter rybak]

a small group of up to five people, armed with grenade launchers, destroyed about fifty enemy soldiers in a narrow corridor

Fifty? And this is the defeat of the army? Or the army, seeing how five killed 50 people, would voluntarily thrust itself into the gorge? Khankendi (Stepanakert) could become a real gorge of Hell after the liberation of the city of Shusha. And then the shot down helicopter and the agreement arrived in time.

[Azimuth]

I wonder who is still not tired of discussing the bloopers and fairy tales of Pegov and who else considers him a war correspondent? ... Well, except for the Armenian and Azerbaijani sides, of course?

The Armenian army did not fight ... And the graves and lists of the dead servicemen of the Armed Forces of Armenia are growing by themselves in Armenia, just like that, the rain has passed and gravestones jumped up like mushrooms?
VVP spoke a lot and in detail today about this conflict, including the situation. Nobody here listens attentively to their president. And VVP said a lot today, said both directly and between words, but neither we hear it, nor the Armenians of it and Russia in general have not heard for many years. And it’s not even about Pashinyan, because the VVP, the Foreign Ministry proposed a settlement plan to his successors, but they didn’t listen to us, they didn’t show due attention to our words, and sorry, but also respect in the end. But we did all this for the Armenians and Armenia themselves, wasting time and resources dealing with the conflict for years, holding many meetings, including the heads of state. The same GDP, in spite of everything, always found time in its schedule to work with one and the other side, but why did he have nothing else to do? A compromise option was proposed, taking into account the interests of the parties, taking into account the interests of our ally, ZERO steps in response.
In fact, the army of our ally, in which we invested rather even more than Armenia itself, and all this to the detriment of our citizens, as an example of the same social system, was defeated, and we saved it not just from a major defeat, it took place, but from destruction. Year after year, we built an army for them, transferring weapons and training them free of charge, selling weapons at domestic prices and allocating preferential loans that Armenia, in principle, will never be able to return by conducting joint exercises, but they did not listen to our words and did not show due respect.
And again, to draw conclusions, having received such a cruel lesson for us, zero respect, some kind of mongrel, albeit ours, but Pegov's mongrel for a couple of silversmiths is ordered to carry nonsense, belittling our role and what we have done. They say some kind of plan worked for the Armenians, some kind of "valley of death" they say could inflict defeat, etc. Well, why didn't they?
And this is instead of thanks, instead of realizing that there is a senior, we do not say the main one, we say the senior. Who knows more, sees further, has more institutions and structures, specialists to analyze and forecast the situation, to whom you need to listen. We are not only big in territory, but also great in soul, generous, but what the Armenians are now broadcasting through Pegov, those comments and assessments that are given in non-governmental media, is all a spit into our souls. We were standing straight now, helping with all we could, but we ourselves were standing straight and the Armenians had already raked them out, can’t they really understand the simple truth that next time we will not stand side by side, but leave? What then would be and will be? ...

Reading Pegov, Ivanov, Sidorov, Petrov, think about real things, analyze them, analyze our policy, listen, among other things, "between the lines" of the same GDP and others, and always reason based on our position and our interests.

[Rubina]

Military Correspondent Pegov: If the operation in the "gorge of death" had been completed, it could have led to the defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces

Pegov ultimately works for Azerbaijan for Armenian money. He, like Solovyov, Skabeeva and others, lied to the Armenian people so shamelessly that they were confident of their victory until the last day. If only they had known earlier, then in Shusha, as Mr. Putin announced today, only Azerbaijani refugees could theoretically return under the supervision of Russian peacekeepers.
Now Pegov is again lying to the Armenians and giving them hope for revenge. Instead of calming down and starting to trade with their neighbors, the Armenians will be preparing for revenge and this will result in further territorial losses, the death of soldiers and a destroyed economy.
Pegov is called an agent of the Azerbaijani army named Ryzhik on Azerbaijani social networks.

[Rubina]

Quote: nikolaevskiy78

To be fair, it must be said that our media did not actually report from the other side - from the Azerbaijani side. It turns out that with such an interethnic intensity (and everything is really white-hot there), information from the other side was actually not received. On the one hand, Armenia, yes, a formal ally in the CSTO, on the other hand, there is the fact of the presence of occupied territories and normal relations with the state of Azerbaijan, which legally fought on its territory. And so it turns out that the one-sided feed was. However, all this is already a matter of personal preference.

Thank you. And it remains to be seen how such a one-sided presentation angered Russian Turkic residents (13 million) and non-Turkic Muslims (only 16% of the population). It's time to drive these loudmouths out of Russian TV - Russia itself doesn't need this. Today I heard the news that a Duma deputy sent a request regarding Solovyov’s activities as harmful to Russia as a multinational country.

[no better place for]

No more pouring for Pegova

[Butchcassidy]

What doubts do you have? Su-30s did not even take off, Iskanders were not used, etc., only the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh fought. Pashinyan is a state traitor who will be judged on earth and burn in the 9th circle of hell after death.

[Lech from Android.]

Pashinyan is a state traitor who will be judged on earth and burn in the 9th circle of hell after death.

He will not be judged... since he will live in the USA, and after death, who knows where he will end up... he will find an excuse... He will tell the Lord God that Russia is to blame for all his sins and he will go to Heaven to hang noodles on the ears of the angels .
All earthly sinners find refuge in the USA; there, in the country of fugitive bandits, swindlers, thieves and other criminal elements have always been accepted.

[strelokmira]

It's a shame they got in there, it won't end well
We'd figure it out ourselves

[Captain45]

Pegov stated that if the operation in the so-called "gorge of death" by the Armenian troops had been brought to an end, then "everything could have ended with a complete defeat of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces."(C)
If mushrooms grew in your mouth, you wouldn’t need to go into the forest, they said during my childhood. Alternative dreamers. Damn, every second military correspondent is at least Moltke or the Prince of Savoy, and every first Suvorov is half and half with Napoleon. As the poet said there: “We all look at Napoleons, there are millions of two-legged creatures!”
And the guys in the photo are probably 50+. Who really fought there? Young people are on Twitter and Instagram, and fathers are in the trenches. Normal schedule.

[Herman 4223]

What kind of operation could be organized? Harutyunyan himself said that there were 10 howitzers and two hail installations left for the entire front, and those without ammunition.

[vlad106]

Quote: Herman 4223

What kind of operation could be organized? Harutyunyan himself said that there were 10 howitzers and two hail installations left for the entire front, and those without ammunition.

Everything is sold out...

[Rubina]

Quote: 16329

Only before the revolution, the majority of Azerbaijanis had a very indirect relationship to all this, and the national cadres were raised by the Soviet government

It's right. However, there are two things. (1) without Soviet power the result would have been the same. This is the 20th century trend towards universal education. (2) The Soviet government trained national personnel not only for Azerbaijan.
For some reason I can't paste the link. Source: Literacy of the population of the Russian Empire (without Finland) according to the general census of 1897. Per 1,000 literate people
European Russia M 326 Zh 137
Caucasus M 182 F 60

The difference is small. Now throw down the minuses.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Herman 4223

What kind of operation could be organized? Harutyunyan himself said that there were 10 howitzers and two hail installations left for the entire front, and those without ammunition.

In Korea in 1950 and the Houthis today in Yemen successfully carry out offensive operations without tanks, howitzers and hail. But for this it is necessary to have thousands or tens of thousands of well-motivated and trained infantrymen for battles in conditions of technical superiority of the enemy.

[Ganja]

This is simply ridiculous, if it means that Shusha was taken by special forces, who tactically worked with a knife and a pistol, and also almost all the personnel of the Armenian Armed Forces were out of action at the beginning of the war, plus the meager human resource, then how can five or six people fight against fifty well-armed specialists? This Pegov is a real dreamer, and besides, the author of the idea, Jalal Harutyunyan, was already incapacitated by that time and naturally could not lead the operation. What Pegov writes is simply an attempt to fragment what is desired into what is real.

[Selevc]

It has already happened many times in history that the side that lost the war came up with some fantastic versions in the spirit of “but if only…”.
In the Karabakh War, Azerbaijan did not destroy Karabakh - but put it to rest... The Azerbaijanis will occupy half of the territories received as a result of the war without firing a single shot, without losing a single soldier!!!! And the agreement is valid for only five years - and after five years the new territories will be developed for a new offensive by Azerbaijan on the remnants of Karabakh.

[Grandfather Mykola]

If grandma had balls, she could be grandpa.
And if Pegov had intelligence, honor and conscience, he would be a party.

[Begunok]

Quote: Grandfather Mykola

If grandma had balls, she could be grandpa.
And if Pegov had intelligence, honor and conscience, he would be a party.

If it weren’t for your Judas Pashinyan, everything would have been different, but apparently Armenia and the Armenian people will have to go through to the end, just like the Ukrainian people..
You shouldn't rejoice Mekola Still ahead..Better run

[Grandfather Mykola]

Why should I be happy for Pashinyan? I’m glad for myself that I won’t have to listen to this Pegovian shit anymore.

[Grandfather Mykola]

If Grandma had balls, she would be Grandpa. And if you had a conscience, it would be Alexei Navalny.