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Armored vehicles of Germany in the Second World War. Heavy tank Pz Kpfw VI Ausf H "Tiger" (Sd Kfz 181)

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In the 37th year, the Wehrmacht needed a breakthrough tank that had 50mm armor and was one and a half times heavier tank Pz Kpfw IV. The design was entrusted to the Henschel engineering company in the city of Kassel.


The order from the weapons department was taken up by E. Aders, the head of the new development department, who was later recognized as the “father of tigers” (Tigerfater). His first car was DW1 (breakthrough machine, Durchbruchswagen), made in a single copy. DW2 appeared in 1938 year. Having the same chassis as the DW1 (five rollers with an individual torsion suspension), the car reached a speed of up to 35 km / h. In September, E. Aders began work on the amended task (the mass was specified in 30 tons). At the same time, Daimler-Benz, MAN, and KB F. Porsche were attracted to the project.

The designations of the experimental machines and that time were standardized and assigned the identifier VK3001 to the ordered machine. In the cipher, the first two digits are the design weight, the last ones are the sample number.

Armored vehicles of Germany in the Second World War. Heavy tank Pz Kpfw VI Ausf H "Tiger" (Sd Kfz 181)
Tank Pz.Kpfw. VI “Tiger” of the SS SSN Heavy Tank Battalion during training battles. France, spring 101 of the year


The German High Command is inspecting one of the first copies of the Tigr tank (PzKpfw VI Ausf. H) at the site, after completing the regular tests. 1942


The newest German heavy tanks "Tigr" (PzKpfw VI "Tiger I") were delivered to combat trials at the Mga railway station near Leningrad, but the vehicles immediately needed repair


The basis of E. Aders took the car DW2. Henschel manufactured four prototypes that differed slightly - two cars in March 1941 of the year and the same in October. What were these cars like? With a fighting weight of 32, the 300-strong engine delivered tons of speed up to 25 km / h. Chassis - seven (twin and single) rollers placed in a staggered manner, and three supporting rollers. The tank armament is a short-barreled 75-mm cannon and two machine guns. The frontal part of the hull and the tower were made of 50-mm armor plates, the sides - of 30-millimeter. The crew of the tank five people.

While VK3001 (N) was being finalized, the campaign against the USSR began. After the very first battles, it became clear that the Henschel prototypes would not endure a battle with KB and T-34. As for the Porsche, he just tried himself in the design of tanks. Apparently this predetermined further Porsche failures in the field of tank building. Two copies of this machine VK3001 (P) were made in winter 40 — 41's. The tank of a given mass did not exceed and, thanks to a pair of engines having air cooling, developed a speed of up to 60 km / h. Porsche offered electric transmission and a longitudinal torsion suspension with six rollers on board. However, the German industry failed to master this complex structure in the short term and failed to implement the original design.

In May, 41, the company Henschel took up another experimental VK3601 equipped with a gun, a projectile which would pierce the armor with a thickness of 100 millimeters from a distance 1,5 thousand meters. By the way, when this tank was made, the thickness of the bronilists was also 100 millimeters. The machine weighing 40 tons developed a speed of up to 40 km / h. The chassis consisted of eight rollers of large diameter (it was later used on the "Tigers").





The Ministry of Arms and Ammunition in July 1941 of the year issued an order to F. Porsche and the firm Henschel for VK4501. It was proposed that the machine be designed for 88-millimeter anti-aircraft gun model 1936, which was processed under the tank. The gun was created in 20 with the efforts of two concerns - German Krupp and Swedish Bofors. Having the main purpose of the fight against air targets, the system still became famous as a powerful anti-tank weapons. The Germans in this role tested the system back in Spain. It was especially actively used in the 40 — 42 years on the battlefields of the Second World War against tanks with counter-launch armor — the Soviet KB and T-34, the British and American Shermans, Grants and Matilda. An armor-piercing shell fired from it hit these tanks even at 2 distances - 2,5 thousand meters.

Semi-automatic, with a wedge vertical bolt gun complemented by electric and muzzle brake. After upgrading it was called 8.8cm KwK36 - 8,8-centimeter gun model 36-th year.

Both tanks VK4501 (H and P) were to be made for 20 on April 1942 of the year - Hitler's birthday. That is, time was not enough. Both designers took the best from previous experimental machines. The choice after comparative tests was stopped on Aders’s car, although Hitler supported F. Porsche.

VK4501 (P), which had the designation "Porsche 101", mass 57 tons developed speed to 35 km / h. The crew of the car five people. “Kruppovskaya” tower and weapons were the same as the opponent’s tank. The thickness of the frontal bronilista towers and hull - 100 millimeters, sides - 80 millimeters.

The air cooling system of a pair of ten-cylinder gasoline engines made the Porsche design the best machine for African desert conditions. In July, 1942 of the year even produced five cars at the Nibelung plant in Linz, Austria, and about 90 cases, which received the designation "Tiger (P)" or Pz Kpfw VIP. Both those and others found application: the first used as training machines, excellent tank destroyers emerged from the semi-finished products.

Since August 1942, the company Henschel organized mass production of tanks developed by Aders. Later, similar assembly lines were opened by Wegmann. "Tigers" were issued until August 44 of the year. In the 42 year, the 84 tank was built, in the 43-m - 647 machines, in the 44-m - 623. In April, 44 of the year registered the maximum monthly release - 104 tank.

The crew of the German tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" demonstrates the capabilities of his car to overcome anti-tank obstacles


German tankers on a halt and tank PzKpfw VI "Tiger"


German heavy tank PzKpfw VI "Tiger" №232 101-th SS heavy tank battalion. The commander of the tank - Untersharführer Kurt Cliber from the company of Michael Wittmann


Initially, the cars were officially called Pz Kpfw VI Ausf H "Tiger I". Since February, 44, after adopting the Tiger II, the name was changed to simply Tiger I or Pz Kpfw VI Ausf E. This car is not another modification of the six. There was only one modification. Although, of course, the design still made changes during production.

The combat weight of mass-produced vehicles exceeded the target by more than 10 tons. Since the advent of the tank and for one and a half years, it has been the strongest machine in the world in almost all indicators. First of all, he had a powerful booking. Aders gave the case a box-like rectangular cross section due to a slight inclination of the frontal and vertical installation of the side armor plates. This configuration has accelerated and simplified the process. In addition, armor plates were fixed by welding and joined on spikes. This made it possible to achieve significant mechanical strength. For the manufacture of the bottom used one sheet. Armor - rolled chromium nickel molybdenum, homogeneous.

The internal space of the "Tiger" was divided into four compartments. On the left, in the front compartment, the driver was located, on the right, the radio operator. The multistage gearless type gearbox had eight forward, and also four reverse gears mounted between them. The multi-plate main clutch working in oil and the brake were placed in the gearbox housing. The differential rotation mechanism, having a double power supply, ensured a turn in place and two fixed turning radii in each gear. To control the tank served as a steering wheel through a hydraulic semi-automatic servo. In case of a steering wheel failure, two hand levers were used with drives for disc brakes.

The width of the viewing slot, through which the driver observed the environment, was regulated by a thick armor damper moving vertically. In case of poor visibility, the driver was guided more by the right direction indicator (gyropolucompass), rather than visually. Hatches, cut over the heads of the radio operator and driver, were covered with covers equipped with periscope observation devices. During the shooting of the MG34 frontal machine gun, the radio operator used his periscope to aim.

A horseshoe-shaped tower, curved from 80-mm armor plate with vertical walls, as well as the middle part of the hull, which was separated from the engine compartment by an armored partition, was assigned for the fighting compartment. to the right of the gun, the loader's workplace, to the left, the gunner. Both had narrow viewing slits with a glass block in front of them. The turret was rotated with the help of a hydraulic drive with a gunner, with a foot pressing the pedal. The tank commander dubbed horizontal guidance.

The commander was intended to install a cylindrical turret mounted on the roof of the tower at the rear on the left with a hatch and five viewing slots. Since July, the 43 of the year has been replaced by a unified (the same as on the Panther) spherical turret with seven periscopic perimeter surveillance devices and a circular contour for moving and attaching an anti-aircraft machine gun. On the front wall of the tower were installed three throwing devices designed for fire smoke grenades.

The 88-mm cannon (L / 56) and the paired 7,92-mm machine gun mounted to the right of it were installed in the armor mask (thickness 110 mm). Combat lay placed below the shoulder strap of the tower - under the tower polycom and along the walls of the fighting compartment near the driver. The semi-automatic weapon and the unitary cartridge ensured the firing rate in 8 rounds per minute.

German heavy tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" with the tactical number "211" from the 503-th tank battalion, in the Belgorod region. German offensive operation "Citadel"


German tanks Pz.Kpfw. VI “Tiger” of the 506 heavy tank battalion in spring 1944 of the year in western Ukraine


German tank Pz.Kpfw. VI “Tiger” of the 502 heavy tank battalion in the Nevel region, Pskov region. January 1944 of the year


The Tiger was the first German serial tank to have a new undercarriage invented by G. Knipkamp. One side had eight triple road wheels located staggered on a torsion bar with hydraulic shock absorbers in the front and rear blocks. By the way, the Germans had already used such a chassis design on light vehicles — armored personnel carriers and semi-tracked artillery. Suspension evenly distributed the weight of the machine on the track, slightly loading each roller, and also allowed to save on rubber tires. Since January, the 44 of the year have been used rollers without a bandage with internal depreciation (the same as on the Panther).

The engine compartment was installed 12-cylinder carburetor engine "Maybach" HL210P45 with liquid cooling power 650 hp In May, the 43 of the year in connection with the transition to the unification of tank production was replaced by a more powerful HL230P30 that had already been tested on the Panthers.

A progressive transmission with hydraulic servos and a torsion bar suspension made the Tiger an easy-to-operate tank with a smooth ride. The driver did not spend considerable physical effort and did not overwork when driving a tank. Mastering the management was easy. A driver of high qualification was not required, and if he died, any member of the crew could replace him.

The 495 of the early "Tigers" were equipped with equipment for underwater driving, which allowed them to overcome water obstacles to a depth of 4 meters along the bottom. In addition, the first production vehicles were armed with S-melee (Schrapnell). It served to defeat the soldiers who tried to take the damaged tank "on board the ship." Five grenade launchers placed along the edges of the tank hull fired up shrapnel grenades on the 1,5-2 meter. Exploding, they covered all the 360 degrees with steel balls.

In addition to the linear, 84 commander tank made. In order to install a second radio station, reduced the ammunition load of the gun to 66 shots and removed the coaxial machine gun.

Tigers 2-th SS Division "Das Reich" on the march in the woods near Kirovograd


German paratroopers ride on the armor of the tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" SS Division "Das Reich." End 1943 g


Camouflage German heavy tank Pz.Kpfw. VI “Tiger” of the SS 102 heavy tank battalion advances to the front line of the Orne River. Obviously, additional fuel tanks are installed.


For the first time, the Tigers entered the battle on the Eastern Front in the autumn of 1942, near Leningrad, near the Mga station. Later took part in the battles on all fronts.

Technical characteristics of the heavy tank Pz Kpfw VI Ausf H:
Year of manufacture - 1942;
Combat weight - 57000 kg;
Crew - 5 man;
Main dimensions
Housing length - 6200 mm;
Length with a gun forward - 8450 mm;
Width - 3700 mm;
Height - mm 2860;
Security:
The thickness of the armor plates of the frontal part of the body (angle of inclination to the vertical) - 100 mm (24 degrees);
The thickness of the armor plates of the hull sides (inclination to the vertical) - 80 mm (0 degrees);
The thickness of the armor plates of the frontal part of the tower (angle of inclination to the vertical) - 110 mm (8 degrees);
The thickness of the armor plates of the roof and the bottom of the case - 26 and 28;
Armament:
Brand gun - KwK36;
Caliber - 88 mm;
Barrel length - 56 CPB;
Ammunition - 92 shot;
The number of machine guns - 2;
Machine gun caliber - 7,92 mm;
Ammunition of machine guns - 4800 cartridges;
Mobility:
Type and make of engine - "Maybach" HL230P45
Engine power - 700 l. with.;
Maximum speed on the highway - 38 km / h;
Fuel stock - 570 l;
Cruising on the highway - 140 km;
The average ground pressure is 1,04 kg / cm2.

German tank "Tiger" brings down the tree for a spectacular shot. Poland. Summer 1944 of the year


German soldiers under the cover of the tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" from the 502-th battalion of heavy tanks near Narva. In the background, to the left, one more same tank, and further, to the right, another “Tiger”


The commander of the German heavy tank "Tiger" looks through binoculars


View from the German tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" during the battle. Ahead is the burning T-34. USSR, 1944 year


Towing a defective German tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" two tractors. Kursk arc


Tanks Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" on the Kursk Bulge


"Tigers" from the 503 Battalion of Heavy Tanks at the Kursk Bulge


Tank commander, Lieutenant B.V. Smelov shows a hole in the turret of the German tank "Tiger", shot down by the crew of Smelov, lieutenant Lihnyakevich (who hit the Nazi tank 2 in the last battle). This hole made the usual armor-piercing projectile from 76-millimeter tank guns


The tower of the German tank PzKpfw. VI "Tiger" №142 of the 501-th tank battalion destroyed by the explosion


Soviet soldiers near the downed German heavy tank "Tiger" (PzKpfw VI "Tiger")


Soviet officers inspect a padded German tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" 503-th battalion of heavy tanks. Colonel I.N. Briskly shows a hole from an armor-piercing projectile in onboard armor with a thickness of 82 mm. At the top of the tower, mortars for firing smoke grenades are clearly visible. Before I.N. Boyko - M.E. Katukov.


German heavy tank Pz.Kpfw.VI “Tiger”, damaged and prepared for evacuation, of the SS division “Dead Head”, captured by Soviet troops at the Kopichintsy railway station


Downed and burned down heavy tank Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. E “Tiger” of the “medium” series of release from the 3 th tank regiment of the 3 th SS Panzer Division “Dead Head”. The number of the Soviet trophy team "308". Lake Balaton District


Heavy German tank Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. H "Tiger" from the 502 th heavy tank battalion of the Wehrmacht, shot down near Leningrad. Most likely, this "Tiger" was shot down in the winter of the year 1943


Heavy heavy tank Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. H "Tiger" from the 509 of the Wehrmacht heavy tank battalion. Tactical number of tank 331. The tank is painted with brown blurred spots on the standard dark yellow "Dunkel-Gelb". In the background, the Soviet regimental gun arr. 1927 of the year on horseback. November 1943, Kiev District



G.K. Zhukov, N.N. Voronov and K.E. Voroshilov inspect the first captured "Tiger" at the exhibition of captured weapons in Gorky Park Gorky in Moscow in the summer of 1943 year - Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" 502-th battalion of heavy tanks of the Wehrmacht (tactical number of the tank - "100"), captured by Soviet troops near Leningrad in the autumn of 1942 year. The unusual fastening of the box for equipment aboard the tower, which was never met later, draws attention.


Exhibition of captured German armored vehicles in Kiev. Soviet soldiers inspect the captured German heavy tanks PzKpfw VI "Tiger" with numbers S54 and S51 1 of the SS SS division "Leibstandart Adolf Hitler". Winter 1945 of the year


War invalid at the exhibition of captured German military equipment in Moscow. In the center of the tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" 502-th battalion of heavy tanks of the Wehrmacht (tactical number of the tank - "100"), captured by Soviet troops near Leningrad
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  1. Prohor
    Prohor 14 August 2012 08: 59 New
    11
    One of the main symbols of that war. The most powerful car of its time.
  2. olifus
    olifus 14 August 2012 09: 04 New
    +8
    Although he was the enemy’s tank, but I do not cease to admire his beauty and grace, among our tanks of that time, the same emotions cause the IS-2.
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 14 August 2012 09: 36 New
      10
      surprisingly: like the whole quadqq, but surprisingly beautiful it turned out
  3. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 14 August 2012 09: 20 New
    +5
    It is so good that so few of them were made! And those that were done did things ...
  4. grizzlir
    grizzlir 14 August 2012 09: 22 New
    +9
    The tiger is a very good machine for its time. It was not a breakthrough tank, due to the small power of the HE projectile, its specialization is the fight against tanks. Our tankers had a very difficult time on the T-34 with a 76mm howl, and the T-34-85 was inferior to the Tiger in many respects. But still, they broke it. The more our glory.
    1. Evrepid
      Evrepid 21 August 2012 15: 04 New
      +2
      Well, why do you compare a heavy tank and a medium one?
      Different weight category!
      It must be compared with large machines.

      But St. John's wort left no stone unturned by this handsome man.
  5. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 14 August 2012 09: 34 New
    14
    The tiger is a great tank for its time, this machine has collected all the best practices of German designers and engineers.
    But the prohibitive cost, coupled with not the highest reliability, was not the best addition to this model of German technology.
    And it should be noted that no matter how TIGER was a wonderful tank, our grandfathers still won, for which they have eternal honor and glory!
    1. ser86
      ser86 7 December 2012 20: 40 New
      0
      I wonder the truth is that fuel consumption is 1 liter per kilometer?
  6. 8 company
    8 company 14 August 2012 10: 11 New
    +7
    The tank is good - the living embodiment of advanced German engineering, embodied a lot of original and effective solutions. He drank a lot of our blood. It is hard to imagine how the Germans would fight back without him in the second half of the war.
  7. maxiv1979
    maxiv1979 14 August 2012 11: 22 New
    +5
    a very good tank for 1943, but quickly losing relevance in 44g. The armor is without rat corners and frankly thin for a HEAVY tank, the gun is a pronounced anti-aircraft directivity. In short, a mobile pillbox with excellent optics, a good Fri gun and very good armor for 43g. Compare it with the Soviet cords 44g, it will be sharply not in favor of the tiger. It seems to me that his fame was gained in the battles of 1943 against t-34s and light tanks, which, yes, were frankly weak already against tigers with an ambush tactic of action and suffered heavy losses from these mobile pillboxes. Well, what can you do, we did not have time to saturate our troops with newer machines by the year 43, so the tiger turned into a legend ...
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 14 August 2012 11: 26 New
      +5
      disagree
      IMHO, it was at the end of the war that he gained relevance. it is not suitable for offensive operations, but on the defensive - the very way
      just like a mobile pillbox
      especially since the T-34 remained the workhorse of tank troops until the very end of the war
    2. Prohor
      Prohor 14 August 2012 16: 25 New
      +7
      Max, although I put you +, but I want to object: for all the advantages of the IS-2, it has an important drawback, in my opinion, is its low rate of fire. In a real battle, with mandatory misses, the Tiger still wins: with the same protection and maneuverability, it has two to three higher rate of fire.
      My grandfather was a tankman, fought in the 116th Alexandria heavy tank brigade, reached Kirovograd in December of the 43rd, all my childhood I looked with horror and pride at his right shoulder torn in half (there was no right hand at all!) And tattered 10-20 see his chest with scars., and yet, dropping a tear on his grandfather’s grave, he is forced to admit together with him (he said so!): “Tiger-I” is the best tank of World War II.
      Naturally, with a reservation on its "anti-tank" ....
      1. loft79
        loft79 14 August 2012 21: 35 New
        +2
        Eternal memory to your grandfather. I agree with you. Other things being equal, in a duel, if both missed the first shot (tiger and IS-2), which was not uncommon, then while the IS is recharging it will receive a couple of blanks already adjusted by the gunner. Unfortunately.
        1. Kars
          Kars 14 August 2012 21: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: loft79
          if both missed the first shot

          dmstantion?
          Quote: loft79
          get a couple of blanks already adjusted gunner

          will they strike?

          A duel is pure luck, and there are simply no other equal conditions.
          My grandfather ended the war in Breslau with the ISU-122 just loading, he told me what happened and the commander helped to load. The wound was received when the shells were loaded, not in armor. And they knocked them out several times, stood for several hours, and until the next morning --- after all, all the same, they advanced.
          1. loft79
            loft79 14 August 2012 21: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Kars
            dmstantion?


            I take the theoretical layout. For an example of rate of fire.
            Let it be 1-1,5


            Quote: Kars
            will they strike?


            Watching where they get.
            1. Kars
              Kars 14 August 2012 22: 05 New
              0
              Quote: loft79
              Let it be 1,5

              The tiger needs another 600 meters to drive.
              Quote: loft79
              Watching where they get.

              By 1944, the tankers were already well-fed, and they would have greeted each other aboard, but the forehead of the IS-2 would be stable.
              somewhere it was already described, in the battlefield .IS-2 will win.
              1. loft79
                loft79 14 August 2012 22: 12 New
                +1
                I'm not talking about the board. Although probably this happened.

                Is falls into the caterpillar.
                Is falls tangentially into the tower.

                The tiger falls between the upper. frontal leaf and tower.
                The tiger falls into the lower frontal leaf.

                These are just options; here you can swap the Tiger and IP. Situations are different.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 14 August 2012 22: 25 New
                  +1
                  Quote: loft79
                  The tiger falls into the lower frontal leaf.

                  From 1500-1200 meters? Vryatli. Yes and there is 100 mm, and what angle will be.

                  As for the tower wedge, there’s nothing to beat here, but the percentage is still much lower. What is 122 mm Hi from anywhere in the frontal projection not on a tangent. The league would have hit.
                  1. loft79
                    loft79 14 August 2012 22: 46 New
                    0
                    Quote: Kars
                    From 1500-1200 meters?


                    At the bottom. forehead. The projection leaf is large enough.

                    Well, not 1,5, but let it be 1. When IS is hit, the Tiger Khan is understandable. But if you missed? And got a few hits? I would not want to be in IS at this moment. I'm talking about the fact that rate of fire is one of the significant advantages of the Tiger. About noun. plus ISa you said:

                    Quote: Kars
                    122 mm Isov hi to any place in the frontal projection not tangentially. The league would have hit.
                    1. Kars
                      Kars 14 August 2012 23: 08 New
                      0
                      Quote: loft79
                      At the bottom. forehead. projection leaf is large enough

                      Screen area.
                      And the frontal projection of the tiger is even larger.
                      Quote: loft79
                      Well, not 1,5, but let it be 1.

                      Do not first need to get there.
                      And so with 1000 meters, and that would have missed the tiger, hard.
                      Quote: loft79
                      But if you missed?

                      it brings us back to the beginning
                      Quote: Kars
                      A duel is pure luck, and there are simply no other equal conditions.
                      1. loft79
                        loft79 14 August 2012 23: 36 New
                        0
                        Quote: Kars
                        And the frontal projection of the tiger is even larger


                        It would be foolish to argue.

                        Quote: Kars
                        And so with 1000 meters, and that would have missed the tiger, hard.


                        Well, I didn’t miss the Tiger, I agree hard, but got into the upper frontal with a rebound)

                        I don’t understand what we're arguing about. I put the Tiger in a plus rate of fire.
                        Agree even with 1,5 The tiger could sandal 3 in a row (with its optics), which increases the likelihood of getting into a weak spot.
                        Any crew will not like this, to say the least.

                        I do not argue or say which tank is better. I like both one and the other. I brought half a lie. side of the tiger.

                        And since you said:

                        Quote: Kars
                        Quote: Kars
                        A duel is pure luck, and there are simply no other equal conditions.


                        So anything happens.
                      2. Kars
                        Kars 14 August 2012 23: 46 New
                        +1
                        Quote: loft79
                        Agree even with 1,5 The tiger could sandal 3 in a row (with its optics), which increases the likelihood of getting into a weak spot.

                        Not with 1.5, it’s only in Carius’s memoirs, the IP will withstand, and even not particularly a wrinkler. Unless with a 40-sub-caliber - but still the angle will be large, and the angle will not be very special.

                        And as for the rate of fire of the tiger, just no one argues. The good news is that IPs usually had more tigers.
                      3. loft79
                        loft79 14 August 2012 23: 58 New
                        0
                        About Carius right now, I don’t remember what he had about 1,5 there.

                        And so
                        Quote: Kars
                        . glad that there were usually more tigers


                        I agree.

                        By the way, I think it should. charging one of the heaviest, especially 122, 152.
                        So that honor and respect to your grandfather.
                      4. Skavron
                        Skavron 16 August 2012 14: 46 New
                        +1
                        Guys, not in sports, both tanks are good ...
                        and both of each other can make out ... each has its pros and cons ...
      2. olosors
        olosors 29 June 2013 21: 35 New
        0
        If pzkfz6 h3 it will strike from the first hit from 1500 meters, even where
  • connect30
    connect30 15 August 2012 22: 44 New
    0
    "Tiger-I is the best tank of World War II." Perhaps clarification of the Tiger-I is the best HEAVY tank of World War II. Since in the category of medium tanks T 34 out of competition.
  • borisst64
    borisst64 14 August 2012 11: 35 New
    +4
    Photos are many interesting, thanks to the author.
  • apro
    apro 14 August 2012 11: 40 New
    +2
    The tank is not bad, but the main Soviet weapon against the tiger is a strategic initiative that was completely captured by the Soviet armed forces and has always found a place where there are no shooting rings and a breakthrough bypass victory.
  • Kars
    Kars 14 August 2012 11: 42 New
    +7
    The tank, which became a household name, almost no one report on hostilities could not do without the destroyed tiger.
    1. Kars
      Kars 14 August 2012 11: 43 New
      +7
      But his service delivered a lot of pleasure
      1. Kars
        Kars 14 August 2012 11: 46 New
        +8
        And he was not invincible like many tigers.
        1. Kars
          Kars 14 August 2012 11: 49 New
          +6
          Very technically difficult, while the Germans made many miscalculations --- the truth is easily seen from our time, sitting at the computer.
          1. Kars
            Kars 14 August 2012 11: 56 New
            +7
            And he forced himself to respect, up to tiger fear.
            1. Kars
              Kars 14 August 2012 11: 59 New
              +6
              The Allies also had to sweat, thinking of what else to do.
              1. Kars
                Kars 14 August 2012 12: 02 New
                +6
                Also let me introduce the Tiger on which Whitman ended his career.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 14 August 2012 12: 04 New
                  10
                  And this scheme would look good in the article itself.
                  1. Prohor
                    Prohor 14 August 2012 21: 23 New
                    +1
                    Andrei, you can upload photos of the damaged Tigers to infinity, but, aphid, I’m a patriot !!! - whatever one may say - the Tiger is the strongest tank of World War II, the IS-2 was a bit late.
                    Well, to be honest - yes?
                    1. Kars
                      Kars 14 August 2012 21: 36 New
                      0
                      I already answered. And gave a link to the forum
                2. bandabas
                  bandabas 14 August 2012 18: 33 New
                  +3
                  He died and died ... Not better and not worse than others. who died in that war. each side fought for its truth. but do not kick the skin of a broken tiger.
            2. igordok
              igordok 15 August 2012 21: 07 New
              0
              Only now often called the Tigers, and Panther, and Pz-IV (H) (Tiger type four).
              In one western magazine I saw a photograph: a series of captured Panthers, on one of them, on the frontal sheet, is written in large white letters TIG_. It is evident that someone stopped from an error.
        2. Nubia2
          Nubia2 14 August 2012 21: 17 New
          +1
          Are there invincible tanks?
          no.
      2. The centurion
        The centurion 14 August 2012 19: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        But his service delivered a lot of pleasure

        A repair is even more fun. The maintainability of the new German tanks was just awful. In 44-45 years, our tank crews did average repairs over the 6-8 hours with the replacement of the engine and gearbox in the field. During this time, the Germans could only replace the internal ice rink on the Tigris or Panther, and they did not even think about average repairs in the field. Due to poor maintainability, they and their tanks lugged around like a cat and kittens along the front-workshop and back. Everything was aggravated by the fact that the damaged tank had to be dragged in tow to the rear of another, serviceable tank or a couple of heavy tractors. All this dramatically reduced the number of combat-ready vehicles at the front. Our tanks fought more than they stood idle, and the German were too long in repair. This was one of the significant success factors.
        1. Kars
          Kars 15 August 2012 16: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: Centurion
          The Germans during this time could only replace the internal ice rink on the Tiger or Panther,
          1. Kars
            Kars 15 August 2012 16: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Centurion
            Our tanks fought more than they stood idle, and the German were too long in repair. This was one of the significant success factors.

            I would not bet on it, the German repair parts worked exemplary.
            we felt the lack of a repair base, even the supply of field workshops on Lend-Lease did not help. And in 1944-45 sending a tank for capital repairs to the factory in general could be more expensive than getting a new tank.
            1. Kars
              Kars 15 August 2012 16: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Kars
              German repair parts worked exemplary.
            2. The centurion
              The centurion 15 August 2012 19: 46 New
              0
              Quote: Kars
              The German repair units worked exemplary. We still felt the lack of a repair base, even the supply of field workshops for Lend-Lease did not help. And in the 1944-45, sending a tank for capital repairs to the factory in general could be more expensive than getting a new tank.

              German repair parts worked well, but they physically could not cope with the amount of work. The innate servility of German tankers played a disservice here. In the photo they can be seen with a canister, while loading the ammunition in the car, but never with a key or a sledgehammer. Only at the very end of the war, following the example of our tankers, and from under the stick they began to help their repairmen repair cars, but it was too late. As a result, German repairmen were forced in the near rear to engage in minor car repairs. In our units, this was done by the crews of damaged cars and REGs (repair and evacuation teams) allocated from the military personnel. And after receiving Lendliz technical service vehicles (MTOs), the crews and REGs with their help even began to make average repairs in the field with the replacement of units and components with overhauls. And the repair factories, which were in almost every tank or mechanized corps and were called a separate repair and restoration battalion, made the capital of cars, units and assemblies and sent them to brigades. The refineries were located in the front-line zone and sending cars there for capital was not a big problem at all. Such technology has significantly reduced the duration of the recovery of damaged vehicles in our units compared to German and provided a huge advantage in the number of combat-ready vehicles on the front line. When the surviving German tankers cry in their memoirs that there were so many Russian tanks that they simply did not have time to knock them out, this is not the whole truth. The abundance of Russian tanks in the last 2 years of the war is a merit not only of manufacturers, but primarily of front-line repairmen, tank crews and designers who created surprisingly maintainable designs.
              1. Kars
                Kars 15 August 2012 20: 44 New
                -1
                Quote: Centurion
                Only at the very end of the war, following the example of our tankers, and from under the stick they began to help their repairmen repair cars, but it was too late

                Can I find out where such data comes from?
                Quote: Centurion
                And after receiving technical support vehicles (MTOs) by lend-lease

                They did before that, only in 1941-43 did cars too often stay in the territory occupied by the enemy and there were few tug boats.
                Quote: Centurion
                When the surviving German tankers cry in their memoirs that there were so many Russian tanks that they simply did not have time to knock them out

                I often listen to the fact that - about a phrase I will repeat
                over the battlefield, with wrecked tanks--
                The Germans will put them out by morning
                this was said by our battalion commander.
                Quote: Centurion
                The abundance of Russian tanks in the last 2 years of the war is a merit not only of manufacturers,

                These also tried.

                Quote: Centurion
                In the photo they can be seen with a canister, while loading the ammunition in the car, but never with a key or a sledgehammer.

                This is vryatli.
                Quote: Centurion
                but they physically could not cope with the amount of work

                The Germans didn’t have many tanks, and reports from heavy tank battalions, for example, show the rhythmic return of the battered vehicles.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 15 August 2012 20: 46 New
                  0
                  Quote: Centurion
                  In our units, the crews of damaged cars did this.
    2. Prohor
      Prohor 14 August 2012 16: 27 New
      +1
      ... of the "destroyed Tiger" - by which, as a rule, was meant the T-4 with a "long" gun.
      1. loc.bejenari
        loc.bejenari 14 August 2012 16: 58 New
        +1
        you still forgot about the 600 destroyed Ferdinands (with 90 released)
        1. loft79
          loft79 14 August 2012 21: 45 New
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          Well, this is by itself, in the first place all the Marders are Ferdinands, and in the second the soldiers and other sau were called Ferdinands. The name has become a household name.
  • Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 14 August 2012 11: 44 New
    0
    Yes, the tank is good. I agree with the fact that it was created precisely as an “anti-tank”, in contrast to our KB2 and IS2. I read in the memoirs of German tankers (in particular, Otto Carius) that ours tried to fire primarily at the commander’s turret, which (on the first issues) was weak and the tank commander was the first to die. Also, our tank destroyers with anti-tank guns were very dangerous opponents, with proper preparation and skill they quickly knocked out observation devices "blinding" the Tigers. In general, the car is terrible, but they also found the council. About the "St. John's Wort" I generally keep quiet.
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 14 August 2012 12: 39 New
      +3
      As for firing at the commander's cupola - it’s still necessary to get into it! Yes, at close range it is desirable - and this is a big problem, because of the superiority of the Germans in optics ...
      Most likely the Germans noticed accurate shots precisely at the turret - all the others were simply not particularly effective ...
      In one book of the Allies it was written that the instructions for the fight against the Tigers wrote where exactly it was necessary to get and from what distance, but the tankers of the Allies themselves were interested in whether anyone had managed to do this, to which they received the answer, that alone did it all -so we succeeded, though later, until the end of the war, he was being treated for nervous exhaustion ...
      The most effective means of fighting the Tigers is most likely aviation ...
      1. Trapperxnumx
        Trapperxnumx 14 August 2012 16: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Brother Sarych
        The most effective means of fighting the Tigers is most likely aviation ...

        And mines)))
        1. Cosmonaut
          Cosmonaut 14 August 2012 16: 48 New
          0
          Footman with a grenade.
    2. loft79
      loft79 14 August 2012 21: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Trapper7
      that ours tried to fire primarily on the commander’s cupola, which (on the first issues) was weak and the tank commander died first


      Sorry, but Carius doesn't have that. He simply stated a high silhouette, and the stupid hatch device at the turret of the first issues. And with intensive shelling of the Tiger, the probability of getting into it was very high. Yours faithfully
  • GHG
    GHG 14 August 2012 11: 49 New
    0
    The abundance of numbers is 1-2-3 in tactical machine numbers. Most likely due to the small number? The first digit is the company, the second platoon, the third machine number ???
    1. Kars
      Kars 14 August 2012 16: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: GES
      The first digit is the company, the second platoon, the third machine number ???
  • maxiv1979
    maxiv1979 14 August 2012 12: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Poppy
    I don’t agree, it was at the end of the war that he gained relevance. it is not suitable for offensive operations, but on the defensive it’s just the same as the mobile dotteme more that the T-34 remained the workhorse of tank troops until the very end of the war


    Well, I don’t know what relevance he was gaining towards the end of the war, given the mass entry of self-propelled guns with excellent guns, T-34-85, Is-2, into the Soviet troops. The thickness of the armor of the new Soviet equipment was either equal to that of the tiger, or it was sharply surpassed by heavy equipment , and if you also take into account the quality of the tiger’s armor, starting somewhere in the middle of the 44th year, then ...
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 14 August 2012 12: 12 New
      +5
      direct relevance: the closer to the end of the war, the more it was necessary for the Germans to defend themselves, where the Tiger was good. Until the very end of the war, he pierced all our tanks, even the IS-2 (there were also problems with the armor)
      And given the significantly better optics and greater rate of fire (than the same IS-2), the enemy was very dangerous until the very end of the war.
  • Denzel13
    Denzel13 14 August 2012 12: 36 New
    +1
    Yes, it’s good that German industry did not attract mass production.
    And the last photos are much more like.
  • grizzlir
    grizzlir 14 August 2012 12: 53 New
    +3
    There is a very good site http://iremember.ru/. First-hand memories. I regret very much that I didn’t retain the memories of my maternal two brothers, they both fought in the tank troops and returned from the war. So I remember from their stories, it is very, very small.
    The terrible weapon for us was the Ferdinand. As he goes from the flank to the trenches, as he begins to "cut", everyone is sitting in the ground, they were afraid. We had a good tank IS-2 "Joseph Stalin." I myself had a chance to see how the frontal armor was pierced by the “tiger” and came out of the backside. Shevaldin Ivan Ilyich
    During the fighting in Germany, somewhere in one place right in the field there was a two-story house, behind which a German tank was assigned. Moreover, it was so successful that we could not get close to him, and he managed to destroy almost ten of our tanks. It’s impossible to go round, because he shot everything perfectly. And so and so they tried to get it, all the same. And then Sobakin volunteered for us - such a big guy, on the 22nd or 23rd year, the IS-2 gunner: “Allow me, I'll try!” He took aim and how he did it. And this house broke through and the tank immediately caught fire. Order Sergey Terentyevich
  • Rjn
    Rjn 14 August 2012 14: 20 New
    0
    For towing two “Famo” tractors it’s not enough - in the full picture in front another one is visible, i.e. at least three are needed. A heavy piece of iron.
  • bairat
    bairat 14 August 2012 15: 09 New
    +1
    We bought a son a radio-controlled model of the Tiger. Handsome, the engine rumbles like a real one, metal tracks, if it does not roll over, overcomes any obstacles, when fired, the barrel rolls back and the tank jerks back. But the battery eats ... like a beast ...
    1. Kars
      Kars 14 August 2012 16: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: bairat
      But the battery eats ... like a beast ...

      It is visible from the prototype left
      1. Prohor
        Prohor 14 August 2012 16: 36 New
        +3
        Yes, the machine is energy intensive. Yes, heavy.
        But:
        - easy to operate,
        - protected
        - up to the IS-2 - unsurpassed in armor penetration and security,
        - and after the IS-2 - unsurpassed in rate of fire with this caliber,
        let's, brothers, just admit: the Tiger is the best tank of 1942-1943.
        This is indeed so !!!
        1. Kars
          Kars 14 August 2012 17: 03 New
          +1
          there is here on the forum topic Best Tyazh.tank WWII

          that would not be especially repeated
          So much debate
          1941-42 KV 1
          1942-45 Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger Ausf. H / e

          IS-2 heavy assault tank
          King Tiger is a misunderstanding from Hitler's gigantomania.


          http://forum.topwar.ru/topic/28-%d0%bb%d1%83%d1%87%d1%88%d0%b8%d0%b9-%d1%82%d1%8
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        2. bistrov.
          bistrov. 14 August 2012 17: 29 New
          +1
          The R-4 tank (Tiger) was an extremely heavy and bulky machine. Its layout was traditional for German tanks: the power plant in the rear of the hull, the transmission and drive wheels in the front. The tiger had a box-type case. At the same time, having installed all the armored shells of the hull vertically, the designers of the tank completely ignored the simple and very effective way of strengthening the armor protection by means of the inclined arrangement of the armored plates. And although the thickness of the frontal hull was 100mm, and the sides and stern were 82-82mm, armor-piercing shells of the 76,2mm ZIS-3 gun could hit the frontal armor of the tank from 500m, and the side and rear armor even from a distance of 1500m. A statement of this fact is contained in Guderian's report. The track rollers were staggered, in the later series they were without rubber bondage (all metal). This was the reason for the terrible roar that accompanied the movement of the tank. Two types of tracks were used in the undercarriage: -725 and 520mm (combat and transport). You can only sympathize with the crews who had to “change shoes” each time, how much work and effort it took. In addition, most bridges in the USSR could not stand it weight 57 tons The power reserve he had was only 100 km. As already noted, the most advanced in the design of the tank was its armament - the KwK88 semi-automatic 36mm gun, which was distinguished by the presence of an electric trigger and a highly effective muzzle brake, which significantly reduced recoil, as well as the presence of barrel blowing after firing and excellent optical instruments. In a minute it could fire 8 shots. It was a terrible anti-tank weapon, which caused a lot of trouble to our tankers. On the other hand, the tower of these baggy cars turned rather slowly, which our tankers used to manage to maneuver if the Tiger made the first miss. Tiger tanks entered service with certain heavy tank battalions and tank regiments of some tank divisions. Due to the increased losses during the German offensives, in the second period of the war they tried to use these tanks only from ambushes, with the exception of a few episodes. As of March 1, 1945, units of the Wehrmacht and the SS were composed of 142 Tigers. A total of 2282 tanks were produced. As you can see, almost all of them were destroyed. So, to say that this is the best tank of the period of 43 years, I would beware.
          1. Kars
            Kars 14 August 2012 18: 09 New
            0
            And who was better? Churchill? Or KV 1?
            1. bistrov.
              bistrov. 14 August 2012 19: 06 New
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              Undoubtedly KV-1. Churchill, weighing about 40 tons, had only 350 strong gasoline engines, weak armor and a plumpy gun from 40 to 75 mm (on some models there were two). The tracks covered the entire body, following the example of World War 1 tanks, without support rollers, often torn, he could hardly climb a small hill, immediately got stuck in the mud (skidded), had to weld additional lugs on his tracks (One of such cases was described in his memoirs by the Marshal of the Soviet Union Yakubovsky, about this General Batov constantly reprimanded him when vpresche: - Well, how did you manage to shoe our ally Churchill?) In addition, he could catch fire from a simple bullet. It was a coffin on the tracks!
              1. Kars
                Kars 14 August 2012 19: 12 New
                +1
                Quote: bistrov.
                Pilotless KV-1

                KV 1 is better than the Tiger - paradoxically.
                1. Prohor
                  Prohor 14 August 2012 21: 33 New
                  +2
                  There is such a thing - logic.
                  My grandfather was a tanker. He fought on the KV-1 and T-34. Since my grandfather - the best grandfather was in the world, the tanks he mastered were also the best in the world. Everything seems to be logical ....
                  No! Not logical!
                  The tiger is a masterpiece, and the fact that we “made it” is only gratitude to our grandfathers, gratitude with tears in our eyes, gratitude with the remembrance of hundreds (and thousands !!!) who died from a phenomenal (for 40) weapon - Lord !!!, their eternal memory!
                  1. shkolo
                    shkolo 14 August 2012 23: 03 New
                    0
                    Iron logic
              2. Prohor
                Prohor 14 August 2012 21: 58 New
                +1
                Let it be to you ... KV-1 with all due respect to the role of the best heavy tank 2 MV does not pull, the granddaughter of IS-2 except ...
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 14 August 2012 15: 51 New
    +1
    And I'm very glad that Hitler was chasing all sorts of waffles. For the release of tigers reduced the release of 4-k. But the Germans needed them like air. mk 1 tank three does not replace.
    1. Cosmonaut
      Cosmonaut 14 August 2012 16: 52 New
      +1
      It depends on which tank ... And the tiger is better than the four in all respects, and they chose the best in the tiger crews.
      1. bistrov.
        bistrov. 14 August 2012 19: 21 New
        0
        I fundamentally disagree with you, I consider the P-4 to be the best Wehrmacht tank in terms of price and quality; since 42, it has been armed with a 75 mm long-barrel semi-automatic cannon, with compressed air blowing, about the same as on the Panther. It was a very good weapon. No wonder R-4 released more than 8 thousand and released before the end of the war, and R-6, only 2200 and in 1944 stopped production, switching to R-7.
        1. Kars
          Kars 14 August 2012 19: 24 New
          0
          Quote: bistrov.
          and R-6, only 2200

          1350
          CT 489
        2. Prohor
          Prohor 14 August 2012 22: 06 New
          +2
          Tigers were released around 1, but 700 thousand Panthers - it was a terrible force at that time!
          Yes, and 10-12 “fours” instead of them, the outcome of the war would not be affected, unless the logical conclusion was delayed.
          Germany was initially doomed to defeat, Leopard-2A7 and then would not have decided anything ...
        3. lds040580
          lds040580 15 August 2012 15: 18 New
          0
          panther is basically the best
  • Varron
    Varron 14 August 2012 17: 30 New
    0
    Good articles about armored vehicles here. Already which I read in a row - all sensible.
  • bairat
    bairat 14 August 2012 18: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: bistrov.
    Tank R-4 (Tiger)

    some kind of unfamiliar designation to me.
    Quote: bistrov.
    As of March 1, 1945, units of the Wehrmacht and the SS were composed of 142 Tigers. A total of 2282 tanks were produced

    A similar situation with the Il-2 attack aircraft, more than 30 thousand units were released, only about three thousand survived until the end of the war. According to veterans, the plane terrified the Germans, even when they were already captured during the flight of IL-2 over their heads, they fell from fear to the ground.
    1. bistrov.
      bistrov. 14 August 2012 19: 26 New
      0
      Quote: bairat
      some unfamiliar designation

      The clerical blame, Need R-6.
  • Nubia2
    Nubia2 14 August 2012 21: 19 New
    0
    Good tank.
    Not without flaws, but whoever does not have them.
    The weapon system is just great (imho).
    1. Prohor
      Prohor 14 August 2012 22: 10 New
      0
      Each 2MV tank has flaws, but the jump - from the T-26 to the IS-3 and from the Pz-1 to the Tiger - is so striking that all the imperfections are forgotten ...
  • Artem6688
    Artem6688 14 August 2012 22: 37 New
    0
    Better used the Tiger R released. And then with the running from an ordinary tiger, some problems
  • Samovar
    Samovar 14 August 2012 23: 23 New
    0
    Quote: Artem6688
    And then with the running from an ordinary tiger, some problems

    Especially when the goose had to change shoes so that it could be transported by train. Well, talking about replacing the rollers is generally unnecessary, because that was still joy. But in general, the tiger secured popularity for itself, one of the best WWII tanks after 34 matches and Isarik. It is a pity that such a tank turned out to be an instrument in the hands of fascism.
  • maxiv1979
    maxiv1979 15 August 2012 05: 15 New
    -2
    Quote: Poppy
    direct relevance: the closer to the end of the war, the more it was necessary for the Germans to defend themselves, where the Tiger was good. Until the very end of the war, he shot through all our tanks, even the IS-2 (there were also problems with the armor) And given the significantly better optics and greater rate of fire (than the same IS-2), the enemy was very dangerous until the very end of the war.


    that’s exactly, in defense they needed powerful pt-sau, on which they switched to the end of the war, look at what Tiger 2 and all sorts of other yagdtigers were armed with) in their arsenal a frank admission that 88mm with a barrel length of 56klb is already not enough to deal with Soviet armored vehicles. Now consider that the armor of most Soviet front-line tanks was no less inferior to the tiger armor in thickness (at least) and was sharply superior in quality. The frankly weak armor of the tiger, for its enormous mass, was already sewn by everyone and all of the number of items from the USSR to 44g, starting from a long-barrel 57mm cannon and 85mm Grabin on t34-85 and above, see the photo in the article. All his glory is a pillbox in 43g. In 44g, almost any hit already perforated him and his armor simply fell apart and cracked. The car was not bad, but with a LOT of flaws. Another moment, his sonorous name, the tank is heavy and a priori dangerous, that was attributed to any defeat of our tank to tigers) who hit - a tiger, who were killed - again a tiger) all this is carefully cultivated by memoirs, both Soviet and German, about the miracle of a German soldier and a miracle to the German tank, and here’s the legend for you, as Borya Moses put it, “if for five years in a row, a person should be repeated that he’s fag ... p, then you can believe”))
  • redcod
    redcod 15 August 2012 16: 02 New
    0
    Evil German genius.
  • vitamin
    vitamin ky 19 August 2012 06: 29 New
    0
    I read with great pleasure both the article and the comments-very interesting a lot for me (if not all) I liked it -all !! I can’t put +1 to everyone, so I’ll just say THANKS.
    My grandfather went through the whole war from the commander of the BT-7 to the regiment T-34-85-died in 1975, the splinter still reached the heart -thanks to everyone who gave me the opportunity to (us) -live
  • Gazprom
    Gazprom 6 September 2012 03: 37 New
    -1
    and f-34 didn’t take him further than 200 meters, such garbage
  • veloboroda
    veloboroda 16 September 2012 16: 19 New
    0
    1: Low maneuverability, speed and maneuverability, plus huge dimensions - a good, hard-to-mask target (especially for aviation).

    2. Armor plates are installed vertically. - low efficiency of armor.

    3. Gasoline engine - increased fire hazard.

    4.Transmission located in front - increased weight, reduced combat reliability.

    5.Very complex and expensive to manufacture and operate.

    One of the most unsuccessful tanks of World War II.
    .
    1. svp67
      svp67 3 June 2013 21: 37 New
      0
      Quote: veloboroda
      1: Low maneuverability, speed and maneuverability, plus huge dimensions - a good, hard-to-mask target (especially for aviation).

      Absolutely invented - this tank had a very high maneuverability, thanks to the geometric proportions and technical solutions used in the transmission ... Yes, and in size, its body is not much larger in width and height of the Is2, but in length is smaller.

      Quote: veloboroda
      2. Armor plates are installed vertically. - low efficiency of armor.

      Yes, the armor did not have rational tilt angles, but for its time it was a reliable protection for the crew, very few could penetrate the tank’s forehead ...

      Quote: veloboroda
      3. Gasoline engine - increased fire hazard.

      Absolutely far-fetched - since the choice of engine type depended more on the fuel balance of the warring countries, and do not forget that the carburetor engine has its advantages over diesel ...

      Quote: veloboroda
      4.Transmission located in front - increased weight, reduced combat reliability.

      But increasing the cross-country ability and improving the weight distribution of the tank and the possibility of placing the tower in the center of the hull, which very positively affects the possibility of firing, especially on the move ...

      Quote: veloboroda
      5.Very complex and expensive to manufacture and operate.
      Everything is relative. It would be interesting to compare the indicator - cost - efficiency ...

      One of the most unsuccessful tanks of World War II.
      Oh, how controversial ... There are more worthy candidates for this role ...
  • kov
    kov 20 September 2012 21: 00 New
    0
    Video story about the Tiger tank

  • olosors
    olosors 3 June 2013 21: 23 New
    0
    the most recent modification (H3) was better than is3 used the new super strong armor equivalent to 400mm push with armor penetration of 600mm and a diesel engine of 1000hp. speed m. 48km / h speed. by trans. places 38km / h and all systems worked flawlessly
  • olosors
    olosors 3 June 2013 21: 27 New
    0
    legend of world tank building
  • olosors
    olosors 8 July 2013 11: 37 New
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    And there was a modif. H4?
  • olosors
    olosors 23 July 2013 11: 01 New
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    I here found out that in the modification of the H8 there was a premenin multilayer modular armor (formerly t-64)
    and new ammunition (it was possible to install only on this modification) armor-piercing incendiary
    pierced 1800mm at a distance of 1500m.
  • pokusak cat
    pokusak cat 31 August 2014 07: 59 New
    0
    Quote: olosors
    I here found out that in the modification of the H8 there was a premenin multilayer modular armor (formerly t-64)
    and new ammunition (it was possible to install only on this modification) armor-piercing incendiary
    pierced 1800mm at a distance of 1500m.

    The quote from the movie "Ivan Vasilievich Changes the Profession" is very suitable for this statement, in fact, here it is - You have to bite!
  • pokusak cat
    pokusak cat 31 August 2014 08: 29 New
    0
    Terms such as: maneuverability and patency are simply not applicable to a tiger-type car, or to write such words in quotation marks. Wild specific ground pressure will greatly limit the area of ​​use of the machine, which by the way immediately manifested itself, it turned out near Leningrad. A shrunken car will become a target.
    Not only tigers, but also their lesser brothers, of the initial period of the war, got into the mud. T1_2_3 tanks with thin tracks were quite helpless in deep snow or mud. But 34ki with a specific pressure on the ground was in full order and the engine wasn’t standing anyway, but the only high-speed tank diesel engine in the whole planet at 500l / s. Giving the car excellent traction and torque. This machine was created for the war and fell into its midst, there were no surprises for it, in addition ... 34ke was doubly lucky because I had to fight against technically backward enemy vehicles such as: T_1 with a machine gun and a skin of 15 mm, T-2 with a 20 mm cannon and skin of about 25 mm, T_3 with a formidable 37 mm gun and 30 mm armor. These cars were no match for a machine that was not designed for a war on the autobahns.
    Even the appearance of a stronger opponent in the face of the Tiger and Panther did not put an end to the car. The subsequent modification of the t-34-85 turned the neck of the third Reich. It was this car that turned out to be a lifesaver. It was this machine that could and fought against the tigers and other menagerie of the Nazis. And she won.
  • pokusak cat
    pokusak cat 31 August 2014 08: 53 New
    0
    I do not claim that the Tiger was a cow’s cake or goat’s round balls. The car is certainly formidable, but its shortcomings are easy.
    1. We have already found out about the specific pressure on the ground.
    2. The arrangement of the drive wheel in front led to the fact that a cardan shaft extended through the entire fighting compartment to the nose of the machine, which raised the height of the fighting compartment, which must be covered with sufficient thickness armor ... which weighs a lot and requires a more powerful engine. The car was huge. Our designers arranged the transmission and the drive wheel at the back and all these witch circles spun back. The car came out more protected and with less weight. The weight of the Tiger is 57t, the weight of Is2 is 46t. Inclined sheets of armor provide better projectile resistance - this is self-explanatory.
    Now about the fairy tale, about the bad sights on Is2- for your information ... On Is2 there was a copy of the German sight, either from the top three, or from the four and the puffer didn’t give it a wild scatter, as is shown in all the so-loved World of Tanks arcade games . Comrade Stalin would not have shot for a bad gun, but sent channels to dig. You will not spoil him.
    I will make it easier. Those who love or are simply interested in such topics, I advise you to read the books of A. Drabkin — I fought on t34 book 1_2. And strangely enough, the books of the traitor and traitor with the pseudonym Victor Rezun. People with technical education or technical mentality will appreciate his manner of writing and setting out arguments and examples.
    Read, find out, be interested, give examples ... And do not swear :-)
  • Kostik
    Kostik zaika 25 November 2014 13: 31 New
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    Porsche proposed an electric transmission and a longitudinal torsion bar suspension with six rollers on board. However, German industry was not able to master this complex design in a short time and failed to realize the original plan.

    Nonsense! Later 90 chassis manufactured by Porsche became the basis for the self-propelled gun Ferdinand. And there were no complaints about the transmission.
  • Tda tar
    Tda tar 3 June 2017 05: 26 New
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    I’m not a tanker, but after watching the modern video about this tiger from the inside, I can say that the main drawback of the tiger was the need for its almost complete disassembly to repair almost any breakdowns and an extremely low technical resource. Together, in any technique, this leads only to the only possible result: the impossibility of its massive and universal application, especially in extreme conditions (like war, for example). She will be "cherished" to the last opportunity, and not be thrown into the battle "to the right and left." And very often bear "non-combat losses" - in general, before entering the battle.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 25 July 2017 16: 24 New
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    The tank was an advanced heavy tank for 1 year, then it became obsolete. War. Otherwise, Tiger-B or the Royal Tiger would not have been created. The appearance of the IS-2 in early 1944, which was withdrawn from service in the early 90s, says a lot. And ISU-152, SU-100 etc. there were no chances for the Tiger either.
  • DDT
    DDT 2 September 2019 00: 27 New
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    It was a pity we didn’t have T-54, T-10 and PT-76 by the beginning of the war ... we wouldn’t be like the English Channel, we would have crossed the Atlantic ... am