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"During uncontrolled flight, the missile could hit Britain": the Polish press questioned the parameters of the recent launch of "Caliber"

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The Russian military department recently reported on combat launches from the frigate Admiral Fleet Kasatonov ". It is explained that the rocket, launched in the White Sea, hit a ground target located more than 1000 km away.


As the Polish edition of Defense24 informs its readers, the specified ship belongs to type 22350, representatives of which are gradually being commissioned:

The Russians consider the Project 22350 ships a great success, especially in terms of the number of missile weapons on board [...] It includes both anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles, as well as maneuvering missiles of the Caliber complex, which allow them to hit ground targets even at a distance more than 2000 km.


It was the "Caliber" that was launched from the indicated frigate. Launched in the White Sea, the rocket headed for the target located at the Chizha training ground on the Kanin Peninsula in the Arkhangelsk region, eventually flying, as officially reported, more than 1000 km.

The Polish press has doubts about the launch parameters.

However, this is probably not true, since the Chizha military training ground is located about 400 km from the White Sea. Thus, in order to overcome the declared distance, the Caliber rocket would have to go around the range or fly north and turn back. However, such a scenario is unlikely.

- the Polish press doubts.

According to the publication, the Russian military could not afford the possibility of losing control of the missile during its flight. In the case of the described trajectory of movement of the UR, it could not be controlled either by ships or aircraft of the Navy. If we consider that the range of destruction of the "Caliber" is more than 2000 km, then in case of loss of control, the missile, according to the Polish media, could theoretically hit Britain by accident, which the Russian military, of course, could not allow.
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  1. Terrible_L.
    Terrible_L. 16 November 2020 09: 17
    57
    Do the Poles have nothing to do now, except to keep track of our missiles? what
    1. Temples
      Temples 16 November 2020 09: 22
      85
      theoretically could have accidentally hit Britain

      Theoretically, it could have been in Poland.
      And in any other EU country.

      But at the moment there was no such task.

      In principle, the statement of the Poles can be turned into another sanctions wassat
      "For the theoretical opportunity to destroy Poland and any other country." laughing
      1. Labrador
        Labrador 16 November 2020 09: 32
        37
        theoretically could have accidentally hit Britain

        In theory, if my grandmother had ... she would be a grandfather. And that's all there is to say about this Polish publication.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 16 November 2020 12: 44
          11
          Now, if the psheks declared that they "prevented a missile attack on Britain by shooting down this caliber," then such a significant event could be marked with sanctions and the demand for excuses and repentance, but this is just bullshit
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 16 November 2020 13: 39
            0
            To the accusation in the style of “highley like” will they add “theoretically could have accidentally hit?” What else will they come up with to denigrate Russia? what
      2. Thrall
        Thrall 16 November 2020 09: 41
        17
        Quote: Scary_L.
        Do the Poles have nothing to do now, except to keep track of our missiles? what

        Hike they are now in the EU looking for Britain smile
        1. Guru
          Guru 16 November 2020 10: 07
          +4
          Thrall
          Today,
          Hike they are now in the EU looking for Britain
          Of course NO, but they want it so badly. lol
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 16 November 2020 12: 42
          +3
          Quote: Thrall
          Hike they are now in the EU looking for Britain

          Strange, I always thought that it was the British who were always looking after the polands. However, if we take into account the Polish ambition (and not only Polish), then let them think what they want. But how it warms the Polish soul, to think only the "overseers" in Europe. laughing
        3. 76rtbr
          76rtbr 17 November 2020 00: 55
          0
          who? Poles? yes they are shaved and do not fit a candle!
      3. venik
        venik 16 November 2020 10: 10
        +4
        Quote: Temples
        In principle, the statement of the Poles can be turned into another sanctions

        ========
        good And why, in your opinion, this article appeared exactly for this. "Psheki" they are generally great masters of all sorts of provocations. First, a series of similar articles in the media, then "concern" at the diplomatic level ... "ambition ...... drinks
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 16 November 2020 10: 19
          13
          Well, after all, they are worried ... where then will the Polish government (in exile) flee if Britain is not there? request
          1. venik
            venik 16 November 2020 10: 22
            +4
            Quote: Hunter 2
            where then to run the Polish government (in exile) if Britain is not?

            ========
            good drinks
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 16 November 2020 12: 48
            +6
            How is "where"?
            And to Skakuasia? Nothing will accept stupid friends?
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 16 November 2020 12: 50
              +3
              Quote: hydrox
              How is "where"?
              And to Skakuasia? Nothing will accept stupid friends?

              Traditions must be observed! am Otherwise, chaos in the closets ...
              The first time to the Britam ... well, it means they have trampled the road!
              1. VORON538
                VORON538 16 November 2020 13: 41
                -1
                They can go to Canada, many of their neighbors have lived there for a hundred years, maybe they will hi
            2. vlad.svargin
              vlad.svargin 16 November 2020 14: 56
              0
              How is "where"?
              And to Skakuasia?

              But Skakuasia will no longer be able to accept them due to its collapse by that time. laughing
      4. frruc
        frruc 16 November 2020 11: 35
        +1
        Theoretically it could. Even a direct hit on the Polish edition of Defense24
    2. svp67
      svp67 16 November 2020 09: 39
      +7
      Quote: Scary_L.
      Do the Poles have nothing to do now, except to keep track of our missiles?

      With their Russophobia, this is vital. I don't know how it is in Britain, but Poland is closer and it will sooner get it ...
      1. dedusik
        dedusik 16 November 2020 13: 11
        +2
        Oga, "I should have gone around the polygon" and ... a direct road to Poland bully
    3. Pereira
      Pereira 16 November 2020 09: 41
      12
      I’m wondering why they chose Britain as their target? Neither Norway, nor Denmark, nor Luxembourg, God forgive me?
      Do they like the British so much?
      1. Guru
        Guru 16 November 2020 10: 08
        +8
        Do they like the British so much?
        They hope that they (the Poles) will be trusted to clean something besides the toilet bowls.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 16 November 2020 10: 30
          +2
          Possible.
          Perhaps clearing the rubble is well paid. Not to hire blacks, really?
        2. boriz
          boriz 16 November 2020 11: 02
          +1
          "They hope that they (the Poles) will be trusted to clean something besides the toilets."
          No, they are worried that the honorary right to clean British toilets is not taken away from them.
        3. Joker62
          Joker62 16 November 2020 12: 48
          +1
          Shoes or a hat to clean ??? what Just not pockets, otherwise the British themselves will be left without pants wassat lol
      2. lucul
        lucul 16 November 2020 13: 00
        -1
        I am wondering why they chose Britain as their target?

        The financial center of the world, and not only ...
      3. Skif
        Skif 16 November 2020 21: 25
        0
        Of course they do. And where should they eat, if something happened?
    4. smart ass
      smart ass 16 November 2020 09: 42
      11
      I remember I watched a wonderful film from the RF Ministry of Defense when small rocket ships from the Caspian Sea fired at bearded kids in Syria, I have never seen a better movie
      1. serg.shishkov2015
        serg.shishkov2015 16 November 2020 10: 51
        +3
        wonderful movie! Until now, the heart rejoices! CALIBRED to the fullest!
    5. free_flier
      free_flier 17 November 2020 22: 00
      0
      Do they have a "tracker" for our missiles?
      The only thing they can do is "peepy ..." about our missiles, because they have a point from these missiles press-press)))
    6. vik669
      vik669 21 November 2020 12: 29
      0
      In controlled flight, the rocket could hit Poland, but not in uncontrolled flight, since the earth is round, so again in Poland, but on the other hand!
  2. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 16 November 2020 09: 18
    10
    Why not to Warsaw? Why go straight to Britain? Fearfully?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 16 November 2020 09: 43
      +4
      No, Warsaw is not allowed. They live there.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 16 November 2020 09: 51
        +5
        Quote: Pereira
        No, Warsaw is not allowed. They live there.

        Then don't let our Iskander calibers tease and sleep well, yes we don't need your apples. They themselves have nowhere to go. tongue
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  4. Yves762
    Yves762 16 November 2020 09: 19
    19
    The flight program assumed a tricky route bypassing the conventional air defense zones, the total distance of which exceeded 1000 versts .... What is it?
    Or are they still under the impression of the flight of the MiG-23 in the 89th ???
  5. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 16 November 2020 09: 19
    +6
    Pleases the lack of brains of the Poles! God bless kimi with calibers! Let them first read how Tomahawks of the 1st and 2nd generations fly and what for do they need contact?
  6. Lebed
    Lebed 16 November 2020 09: 20
    +3
    With uncontrolled flight, Trident can hit London. Or around Warsaw
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 November 2020 09: 21
    +5
    You can shoot closer ... it is more difficult to lay a route ... with more turns than necessary.
  8. Hog
    Hog 16 November 2020 09: 24
    +3
    However, this is probably not true, since the Chizha military training ground is located about 400 km from the White Sea.

    The frigate is probably right off the coast of the PO. Kanin stood. And there was no question of the flight route.
    PS: Formally, it is ten times less to the seashore.
  9. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 16 November 2020 09: 26
    +7
    yes, there is 400 km from the sea .. BUT .. in their opinion, the frigate should shoot exclusively from the coast? Go to sea, no, no?
  10. Gunner
    Gunner 16 November 2020 09: 27
    +8
    And still, purely theoretically, without the engine, the rocket would not fly at all, probably.
  11. Imobile
    Imobile 16 November 2020 09: 32
    -1
    efficiency without guidance, even if it flew, is extremely low, you can hit the oligarch. There are more of them than the English. But if you aim the drone, then it is
    1. KCA
      KCA 16 November 2020 09: 51
      +3
      Why aim the drone, back in 1992 there were 3D maps of all of Europe, I think they are constantly being updated
  12. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 16 November 2020 09: 45
    +9
    It is necessary to take into account the fundamental opinion of the "largest" experts in the field of rocketry from the Pole Spill ... and impose sanctions: this is a common thing.
  13. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 16 November 2020 09: 47
    +5
    Their nutritional process causes antiresis! What do they smoke turnips with? With grease ali without?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 16 November 2020 09: 53
      +3
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      What do they smoke turnips with?

      Come on, turnips, or else hemp.
      1. free_flier
        free_flier 17 November 2020 22: 03
        0
        Why the heck to transfer hemp to them ???
        Let the manure dry and smoke.
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 November 2020 09: 48
    +4
    the range of destruction of the "Caliber" is over 2000 km, then if control is lost, the missile, according to the Polish media, theoretically could accidentally hit Britain,
    She flew away to the right place, struck what was needed, the result is excellent ... Why pinch a chamomile in pursuit - "will fall on the britov, will not fall on the brits." laughing
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 16 November 2020 13: 09
      +1
      No, cannabis does not turn the brains inside out so much that it seems as if the psheki among the monkeys are walking naked and always ready for ... well, let's say, launching missiles ... laughing
  15. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 16 November 2020 09: 50
    -3
    At all kinds of "combat launches" in the process of testing ground, anything can happen and nothing can be done about it. Therefore, it makes no sense to suck each start. Everything worked out, no sacrifices - praise to the Almighty. In a word, we did a little fright. Well, okay. hi
  16. storm
    storm 16 November 2020 09: 54
    +4
    "... and they also called you an earthworm ...."
    Selling sycophants and sycophants from the British table .....
  17. Alexander X
    Alexander X 16 November 2020 09: 55
    +3
    Theoretically, the Earth can also crash against the firmament ... Well, the Poles itch to crawl up and bite Russia. At least like that, at least by writing nonsense.
  18. sergo1914
    sergo1914 16 November 2020 09: 55
    +3
    PoLiakhi ... And it doesn't seem to be cured. What is true and what is not true is known only to people with a certain form of admission on the topic "Caliber".
  19. Pavel57
    Pavel57 16 November 2020 10: 00
    +3
    Quote: Clever man
    I remember I watched a wonderful film from the RF Ministry of Defense when small rocket ships from the Caspian Sea fired at bearded kids in Syria, I have never seen a better movie

    So the RTOs were transferred together with the Iskander to Kaliningrad to keep the Polyakov calm.
  20. K-50
    K-50 16 November 2020 10: 01
    +4
    the range of destruction of the "Caliber" is over 2000 km, then if control is lost, the missile, according to the Polish media, theoretically could accidentally hit Britain,

    We even have flies flying in a controlled manner during exercises, not like rockets !!! fellow
    lol
    So do not drive the "wave", we will not offend unnecessarily !!! fellow wassat wassat laughing
  21. iouris
    iouris 16 November 2020 10: 03
    +1
    "Striking Britain" is interesting, because there are decision-making centers, not in Ankara, not in Warsaw and not in Baku. And write: "For the Skripals!", "For the Berlin Patient!", "For the war in Karabakh!", "For Syria!" etc.
  22. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 16 November 2020 10: 08
    +2
    Losing Britain to Pshek is a national disaster. Where will the Polish guest workers go?
    1. iouris
      iouris 16 November 2020 10: 26
      0
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Lose Britain

      is a disaster for the "Russian" "elite" groups. Everything is ours in Londongrad.
    2. free_flier
      free_flier 17 November 2020 22: 07
      0
      Yes Britons before the Poles themselves will lose ... for the first time or what ???
  23. Alexander Vorontsov
    Alexander Vorontsov 16 November 2020 10: 39
    0
    Of course, I'm sorry, and I may not know some of the circumstances of the launch, but ground stationary targets are hit by rockets with an inertial guidance system.
    Such a rocket, in principle, does not need external control.
  24. rocket757
    rocket757 16 November 2020 10: 51
    +2
    Great specialists from the "pospolita" ... from a country that doesn't do anything interesting ...
    The question is, where else could there be such experts?
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  26. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 16 November 2020 11: 13
    +2
    However, this is probably not true, since the Chizha military training ground is located about 400 km from the White Sea.

    How interesting they measured, from the throat of the White Sea to the landfill is just over 1000 km laughing
  27. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 16 November 2020 12: 15
    +2
    "as the Polish media writes, theoretically it could accidentally hit Britain" -
    And it could not be accidental. But ... So far - sorry.
  28. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 16 November 2020 12: 16
    +3
    Quote: rocket757
    Great specialists from the "pospolita" ... from a country that doesn't do anything interesting ...

    How does it not do it? .. They write! And we are discussing it now! ..
  29. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 16 November 2020 12: 22
    +1
    Quote: iouris
    And write: "For the Skripals!", "For the Berlin Patient!", "For the war in Karabakh!", "For Syria!" etc.

    Yes! "For imperialist manners!", "For the Falklands!", "For the fact that the movement is left-hand!"
  30. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 16 November 2020 12: 32
    +3
    Nobody asked Polyakov what route to lay in the rocket. Have you decided to scare Britain? If it is necessary to test the rocket, it can be launched in a circle, the route does not matter during the exercise.
    The Poles would be better off speculating about the Ukrainians, whether they will return to the fields in the spring, or about the apples that rot due to the stupidity of the Polish leadership.
    1. boris epstein
      boris epstein 16 November 2020 15: 38
      0
      But they can rot along with the strawberries! In Verkhovna Zrada, a bill has been registered to introduce a tax of 25% on those employed abroad. At the same time, Zrada turns a blind eye to the fact that ukrogastarbeiters are well cleaned at checkpoints by their own border guards.
      Article: "Kiev will impose a new tribute on Ukrainians working in Russia and the EU"
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 16 November 2020 20: 30
        0
        Well, with such an initiative, they rushed around even under Peter, but I think no one will accept, since it is impossible to administer.
  31. Artunis
    Artunis 16 November 2020 13: 14
    +2
    Delirium of a gray mare on a dark November night!
  32. Lptsk
    Lptsk 16 November 2020 13: 16
    0
    She is controlled.
  33. senima56
    senima56 16 November 2020 14: 27
    +1
    "Launched in the White Sea, the rocket headed for the target located at the Chizha training ground on the Kanin Peninsula in the Arkhangelsk region, eventually flying, as officially reported, more than 1000 km." and "However, the Chizha military training ground is located about 400 km from the White Sea." How does this happen? 1000 or 400 km? As in a joke: "From head to tail 5 meters, from tail to head - 3 meters! I measured it myself, I am surprised myself!" fool negative fool
  34. boris epstein
    boris epstein 16 November 2020 15: 32
    -1
    American missiles from the Ramstein base in the Federal Republic of Germany and the Greennam Common base in Britain can easily reach Polish territory in an uncontrolled flight, and they can also drop something vigorous on any B-52 that Russian fighters intercept over the Baltic Sea.
    1. peter rusin_2
      peter rusin_2 16 November 2020 16: 04
      -1
      And why hackers dig for so long, it's time to kill the Poles!
  35. peter rusin_2
    peter rusin_2 16 November 2020 16: 03
    0
    It is a pity that I did not turn to Poland!
  36. Gregory Charnota
    Gregory Charnota 16 November 2020 16: 27
    0
    as Zhirinovsky said, let's better ipanem in tbilisi! those across London.
  37. alex-sherbakov48
    alex-sherbakov48 16 November 2020 17: 20
    0
    Psheki are talkers !!! Themselves do not understand anything about this, and there to comment. And as always a finger to the sky!
  38. Zheleznyak
    Zheleznyak 16 November 2020 17: 30
    0
    Strange Poles? Loss of control over Britain, too, and why not over Poland itself, if it comes to that?
    To them, to their internal protests and the demands of the Old Man to hand over traitors to Belarus ... A caliber with a blank to the center of Warsaw, as if into the garden of our warned, involved embassy ... just that ...
  39. Old26
    Old26 16 November 2020 19: 52
    +1
    Quote: senima56
    "Launched in the White Sea, the rocket headed for the target located at the Chizha training ground on the Kanin Peninsula in the Arkhangelsk region, eventually flying, as officially reported, more than 1000 km." and "However, the Chizha military training ground is located about 400 km from the White Sea." How does this happen? 1000 or 400 km? As in a joke: "From head to tail 5 meters, from tail to head - 3 meters! I measured it myself, I am surprised myself!" fool negative fool

    Of course, you can laugh, but this message (not yet Polish) actually raises questions. Even if the ship was driven almost to Kandalaksha, then the distance to the test site was actually about 450-500 km. Either they did not shoot from the White Sea, or they shot at Novaya Zemlya. There, before the Matochkin Strait, the ball is just about 1000 km ...
  40. Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. 17 November 2020 00: 44
    0
    In Poland, there have never been specialists in CD, so the level of competence of Poles in this matter is extremely low and their reasoning is amateurish. Who said that the KR "Caliber" should fly to Chizha strictly in a straight line. The route is selected for safety reasons and the airspace is closed during the flight. What prevents, within this space, from introducing the so-called. "box", i.e. The CD in a safe area (for example, between Novaya Zemlya and the Kanin Nos peninsula) first winds hundreds of kilometers in a circle or square, gaining the required range, and then goes to the battlefield. Simple and angry. Now, with regard to the possibility of accidentally flying into Anlia or Poland, it is excluded: 1. any test missile always has an elimination system (self-detonation), which is triggered when the product leaves the corridor 2. As a rule, a telemetry system is installed on a non-combat missile instead of a warhead, to receive telemetry information, a special aircraft SKIP is involved, on which there is a command radio link and during anomalous flight, the missile can be destroyed by giving the command H = 0 (i.e., the RC is simply sent to the ground) 3. In such events, as a rule, escort by air defense aircraft is ordered and the anti-aircraft missile divisions along the flight path are put on high alert with the task of destroying the object on command in case of going out of the corridor. So organizational and technical measures not only guarantee the safety of tests, but also prevent the secret object from falling into the hands of the enemy. And it is quite possible to get the "Caliber" in combat version to England or Poland, but only if they are included in the flight mission as targets. In general, what, roughly speaking, is the pig business of some Poles, what tests are being carried out by the Russian Federation in the Russian North?
  41. oracul
    oracul 17 November 2020 07: 12
    0
    To paraphrase a phrase from the film: here are Poles, minds, and we are Russians, alas! All that they know about the Russians, they will always "lead to clean water." I think that we have their opinion on the side. Russia has real experience in the combat use of "Calibers" and we will not miss Poland.
  42. bubasa
    bubasa 17 November 2020 08: 51
    0
    what does it matter what the Poles think? who are they? tafai goodbye ... laughing
  43. wow
    wow 17 November 2020 09: 04
    0
    Yes, fuck with her, with this Britain ...
  44. EVDmitri
    EVDmitri 17 November 2020 14: 00
    0
    The Poles read the text written for them by the Saxons.
    And why does this not surprise me?
  45. Nemec Nemec_2
    Nemec Nemec_2 17 November 2020 14: 59
    0
    The existence of such a country as Poland raises a lot of questions and the first is the expediency of such an existence.
  46. johnatan.kowalski
    johnatan.kowalski 17 November 2020 17: 12
    -1
    The Poles used to be in the same camp with the Russian Federation, although their barracks were more fun and they themselves can film cartoons)))
  47. Romanenko
    Romanenko 18 November 2020 09: 27
    0
    The British colony was worried, that's understandable