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Azerbaijani consul in the USA: Armenia did not calculate the consequences of the war with Azerbaijan

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The Consul General of Azerbaijan in Los Angeles (USA) has made a statement related to the war in Nagorno-Karabakh. Nasimi Agayev commented on the losses that Armenia suffered during the hostilities.


According to the Azerbaijani diplomat, "Armenia has not calculated the consequences of the war with Azerbaijan."

In this he agrees with the director of the Institute for Security Policy and Development Svante Cornell, who in an article on the pages of NI notes that "the long-term damage from Armenia's miscalculations is obvious."

From the material:

Some of the damage is of a physical nature, but more importantly, it is moral damage.

The material indicates that the sense of Armenia's military superiority has been undermined. It is pointed out what caused the defeat of Armenia in the Karabakh conflict:

Armenia simply did not expect Azerbaijan's military advantage, which led to its defeat.

Meanwhile, the officials in Turkey are talking about "the need to recover damages from Armenia during the years of occupation of the territory that did not belong to it." For this, a special commission may be formed in the Turkish parliament, as reported by the head of the human rights commission of the Turkish legislative body, Hakan Cavusoglu (not to be confused with Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu). The parliamentarian made this statement after a meeting with the Prosecutor General of Azerbaijan Kamran Aliyev.

According to Cavusoglu, today it is important to record “the facts of Armenian war crimes - the facts of shelling of Azerbaijani cities”.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 15 November 2020 10: 11 New
    +3
    Armenia is Pashinyan and his masters at the US Embassy have calculated all the consequences. It would be better if the consul told about Aliyev's wisdom.
    1. Cool but not Igor
      Cool but not Igor 15 November 2020 10: 19 New
      +3
      You hang all the dogs on Pashinyan, but he has been in power since May 2018! Could he reform the Armed Forces so that they could rebuff the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan? How much could he buy Armor C in 2.5 years with such a microscopic budget?
      So also the staff needs 5 years at the academy to study and how many more years of experience to have! So what is he to blame, only that he jumped against Russia? As if the pro-Russian corrupt officials who were before him did some kind of reforms and could cope with the modern army of Azerbaijan only thanks to the fighting spirit, it does not matter who bombed the UAV in the trenches. There is a clear technical superiority that had to be compensated for within 10 years, or even more!
      1. iouris
        iouris 15 November 2020 11: 53 New
        +1
        To prevent war, Pashinyan (Armenia) only had to fulfill the agreements and return seven districts. Pashinyan did everything to make the war happen. The outcome of the war was obvious. Pashinyan led the case to the defeat of Armenia. The result of the war will be the withdrawal of the Russian Federation from the Transcaucasus. This means that Pashinyan (Armenia) must understand and bear in mind that either Armenia will enter the Turkish Empire, or the United States will come to Armenia. But Turkey, most likely, will not leave. But it is easy for peacekeepers to cut supply channels. Why is there no channel for supplying peacekeepers through Azerbaijan? Or is there?
        Moscow wanted to free itself from the republics (independence) - now is the most favorable moment. Erdogan will help.
      2. hrych
        hrych 15 November 2020 12: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Cool but not Igor
        Could he reform the Armed Forces so that they could resist the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan?

        But he removed the military leaders and put worm-like soros in military affairs not boom-boom. And understand that Armenia never entered the war, although it received guarantees from the Turkish invasion of the CSTO. The NKR fought with the pitiful expeditionary corps of Armenia and the militia. And drones are nothing when incompetent commanders. Pashinyan cleared them out. And don't forget Prezik-Sargsyan, for lynching. Pashinyan simply went to war and left Karabakh to its own devices. I did not use aviation, I did not use OTR strikes against strategic targets and Baku, the refinery, the Kura dam and oil pipelines. Just a slug. It is clear that Soros banned, expressing BP's interests in AzR and so on. The Baku-Ceyhan oil pipeline is only a quarter Azerbaijani, the rest of the operators are Norwegians, Italians, Americans and even Frankish Total has a percentage. The interests of Armenia and the people turned out to be for Pashinyan and Sargsyan, lower than serving the masters. This is called treason. And Aliyev and the Kremlin only took this into account when planning their actions. Armenia completely lost Karabakh, most of it now belongs to Russia, and AzR returned 7 regions, part of Karabakh itself and lifted the blockade from Nakhichevan. Aliyev has also managed to get rid of Turkish influence by Russia, and we are inevitably getting rid of the soros in Armenia.
        1. Radapupin
          Radapupin 15 November 2020 12: 27 New
          +1
          You are mistaken, Armenia fought and it lost. Where did the NKR get so many tanks and weapons from the sky or did Santa Claus give it away)))
          1. iouris
            iouris 15 November 2020 12: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Radapupin
            Armenia fought and she lost

            But legally the NKR was at war. Armenia did not "lose", and Pashishyan led the country to a heavy military defeat. For Pashinyan, these are "force majeure" or "force majeure circumstances" that allow strengthening the regime and drastically changing the geopolitical orientation of the state (or what is left of it).
          2. hrych
            hrych 15 November 2020 12: 42 New
            +1
            The NKR Armed Forces were decently armed, but with outdated weapons from Soviet times. The same Osa, as the basis of the NKR air defense, was not produced after 1988. And the S-300 complexes of Armenia did not participate in the protection of the NKR sky, the Armenian Torahs were not used. Aviation was not used. Iskander was not used. Therefore, the NKR had to fight with towed artillery, a meager amount of MLRS and old tanks captured from the same Azerbaijan in the first war. And most importantly, in the absence of combat aircraft. The Armenian army is well equipped with modern weapons systems and the AzR Armed Forces do not have an overwhelming advantage. And if we take into account that the NKR Armed Forces held back all the best in the Azerbaijani army for more than a month, then Armenia's entry into the war would definitely determine the outcome of the battle. At least they would have lasted until winter, but in the mountains this is a complete collapse of the offensive. Pashinyan did not even allow NKR Elbrus to be used at the AzR refinery, because BP would have suffered, etc.
            1. Radapupin
              Radapupin 15 November 2020 12: 49 New
              -2
              Well, you can’t know that Azerbaijan has excellent air defense, if they used Iskandar, this is already a declaration of war on Azerbaijan and a war on 2 fronts. As I know, 20000 army was in Nakhichevan.
              Russia would not have intervened.
              1. hrych
                hrych 15 November 2020 13: 06 New
                +1
                AF AzR showed that ... incapable of combat. And don't fall into the illusion of a "big" victory. The blitzkrieg was disrupted immediately, and for more than a month the NKR held out stubbornly resisting a hundred thousandth army, inflicting losses on equipment and soldiers, and held on in three main directions. And only when the southern front fell and the moment came when Armenia would have to intervene did Pashinyan go to war, and the owners did not allow him. 20 thousand Nakhchivans are not capable of conducting an offensive operation. Quite the opposite. And Aliyev understood this perfectly well when he went to the world, because when Armenia entered the war, everything would have just begun, and the Armed Forces of the AzR have already overstrained themselves. There is one arrival of a single tornado in Ganja, so the arches began to shake ...
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 15 November 2020 14: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Cool but not Igor
        You hang all the dogs on Pashinyan, but he has been in power since May 2018! Could he reform the Armed Forces so that they could rebuff the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan? How much could he buy Armor C in 2.5 years with such a microscopic budget?

        Are you sure that he was interested in strengthening the army and strengthening its capabilities? First of all, he cleared its ranks from representatives of the military leadership from among those who had practical military experience in Karabakh and packed them with representatives loyal to Pashinyan and his team? What is it for?
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 15 November 2020 10: 26 New
      +7
      Quote: iouris
      Armenia is Pashinyan and his masters at the US Embassy have calculated all the consequences.

      Nothing, they didn't calculate ... The "Karabakh clan" was confident that in case of an unfavorable scenario, Russia would immediately intervene. And Pashinyan rested on his laurels, he had no time for war (defense).
      Quote: iouris
      It would be better if the consul told about Aliyev's wisdom.

      About the fact that he first phoned Putin and asked for permission? what
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 15 November 2020 10: 39 New
        +8
        Greetings Stas hi Quite rightly, I will add here the heterogeneity of the Armenian population living both in Armenia and in the World. Somehow, the diasporas did not rush to help their brothers in Karabakh. The money was collected with difficulty, the amounts are simply insignificant ... despite the fact that the Armenian diasporas are clearly not the poorest in the world. Kardashian, with her billions, allocated only $ 1 million (earning much more on this PR campaign), in fact, like other wealthy Armenians.
        Azerbaijan has everything on the contrary, the nation has united! In fact, having won the first serious victory in its history!
        1. iouris
          iouris 15 November 2020 12: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Azerbaijan has everything on the contrary, the nation has united!

          She rallied, because they do not yet know at what cost the victory was achieved. Tomorrow Erdogan may want to remove Aliyev and install his own man.
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 15 November 2020 12: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: iouris

            She rallied, because they do not yet know at what cost the victory was achieved. Tomorrow Erdogan may want to remove Aliyev and install his own man.

            Aliyev is definitely not a whipping boy, a prudent and not stupid frame, plus - good (personal) relations with GDP.
            Aliyev - Excellent as in Poker, played the cards given to him. He is exactly in the black, and so is Russia.
            Well, for the cunning Erdogan, there is always a beater so that he does not raise his head high. And this is not necessarily Russia, it can be Kurds, Iran ... and even "friends" in NATO.
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 15 November 2020 13: 01 New
              +4
              Quote: Hunter 2
              plus - good relationship (personal) with GDP.

              Plus - Azerbaijan is tied, more to Russia. Diaspora.

              Quote: iouris
              Tomorrow Erdogan may want to remove Aliyev and install his own man.

              What ??? Ilham, a national hero until his death. There is no chance of a coup.
              1. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 15 November 2020 13: 11 New
                +4
                Quote: LiSiCyn

                What ??? Ilham, a national hero until his death. There is no chance of a coup.

                100% - and such that will be remembered for centuries!
                Winning the War ... this is not given to many Leaders, but he is an Intelligent and Prudent Leader.
              2. iouris
                iouris 15 November 2020 17: 09 New
                -1
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                Ilham, a national hero until his death.

                Come on, this is romanticism. It is known that the service rendered is worth nothing. The euphoria will quickly pass, a bitter hangover will come, some Turkish "gray wolves" will appear.
    3. Finches
      Finches 15 November 2020 11: 20 New
      -1
      Azerbaijan was just lucky that Sorovskiy fosterling took the helm in Armenia - this is the first, second, that Aliyev has good relations with GDP, much better than GDP with Pashinyan ... do not enter Russian tanks in Baku ... laughing
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 15 November 2020 10: 18 New
    16
    Armenia “didn’t calculate the consequences of its independence. Leave Azerbaijan alone. Azerbaijan has shown itself to be a wise and independent state. In any case, judging by their leader, Aliyev, the citizens of Azerbaijan made the right and reasonable choice.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 15 November 2020 11: 39 New
      +8
      I watched ANNANEWS 'reports, how the Armenians spoke with disdain about the enemy at the beginning of the battles - aa ... the Turks ... yes, we always beat them. They underestimated the enemy and overestimated themselves loved ones.
      1. businessv
        businessv 16 November 2020 22: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Konnick
        and we always beat them. They underestimated the enemy and overestimated themselves loved ones.
        How can you underestimate the enemy, about whom the whole world knows that he carried out the Armenian genocide?
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  4. paul3390
    paul3390 15 November 2020 10: 19 New
    +7
    And what about the Turks jumping up and down? It is high time for them to get rid of them for 500 years of illegal occupation of the territory of the Byzantine Empire ..
    1. Rubina
      Rubina 15 November 2020 10: 46 New
      -4
      Well, this topic is not worth stirring up. Likewise, the question of the illegal occupation of the Kazan, Astrakhan, Siberian and Crimean khanates can be raised.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 15 November 2020 10: 47 New
        +1
        Azerbaijan is generally the territory of the Persian Empire then ..
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 15 November 2020 11: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: paul3390
          Azerbaijan is generally the territory of the Persian Empire then ..
          It was given by the Shah to Russia, among other compensations for the defeat of the embassy and the murder of Ambassador Griboyedov.
        2. wmn5500
          wmn5500 15 November 2020 12: 00 New
          -4
          Azerbaijan is generally the territory of the Persian Empire then ..

          Whereas Iran "Persian Empire" belonged to Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis.
          1. And Makarov
            And Makarov 15 November 2020 12: 16 New
            -1
            Quote: wmn5500
            While Iran "Persian Empire" belonged to Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis

            This topic has already been discussed about the Azerbaijani at the head of Persia. It's like saying, "Russia was under Georgia, because Stalin was in command." belay
            1. Radapupin
              Radapupin 15 November 2020 12: 38 New
              +2
              There were a lot of Azerbaijanis at the helm of the Persians.
            2. wmn5500
              wmn5500 15 November 2020 23: 56 New
              0
              The analogy is not entirely correct! Here we are talking about the almost complete leadership of the empire by the Azerbaijanis and not by individual representatives in power.
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 15 November 2020 11: 52 New
        0
        Theoretically correct) Practically impossible.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 15 November 2020 10: 24 New
    0
    Consequences from scratch almost never arise!
    The consequences after the political decisions of the ruling elite .... and the ruling elite, these are the consequences of the decisions of the citizens or the crowd, this is how it happened to anyone, they did it YOURSELF .... even if not everyone wanted it, but it covered everyone.
    1. hrych
      hrych 15 November 2020 12: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      even if not everyone wanted it, but it covered everyone.

      A new generation has grown, which has defined the pro-Western movement and contempt for Russia. And Russophobia is an extremely expensive thing and also turned out to be fatal.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 November 2020 12: 33 New
        0
        Russia, sales in difficult times will not leave a FRIEND, without help ..... just don’t have to turn sirloin to us and shit.
        Quote: hrych
        a new generation that defined the pro-Western movement

        Well, young and proud, did your ....... new friends help you?
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 15 November 2020 10: 31 New
    0
    Armenia has not calculated the appearance of the traitor Pashinyan in its ranks?
    1. iouris
      iouris 15 November 2020 12: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Armenia did not calculate

      Did the USSR figure it out?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 15 November 2020 14: 15 New
        0
        Quote: iouris
        Did the USSR figure it out?

        The USSR was in a slightly different position, where the leadership and the line of the party on perestroika were not discussed.
        And Armenia had a lot of examples and Russia and Ukraine, Georgia and the same Turkey (it was marinated with promises of joining the EU for 15 years) The promises of the West are worthless
        1. iouris
          iouris 15 November 2020 17: 11 New
          0
          Everything is in one position. Your discussions are fucking useless.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 15 November 2020 18: 59 New
            0
            Quote: iouris
            Everything is in one position. Your discussions are fucking useless.

            Rake is a dangerous thing if it does not reach through the head ............. oh, come on!
  7. Observer2014
    Observer2014 15 November 2020 10: 32 New
    +3
    Yes. And there is. The Armenians completely lost on all fronts. And now they have occupied their really worthy niche in the Caucasian region. lol laughing And let them forget about "great Armenia, from sea to sea". What's next? Then we will look. To live and develop. But nobody is allowed to turn the land into pigsties for the sake of someone's ambitions.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 15 November 2020 11: 05 New
      +3
      Little of. I will add. The Armenians cannot see any credits for replenishing the equipment lost in the war as their own ears. Their life there will depend only on Russia and nothing else. There is a Russian soldier. He is their defender and support there. Everything. And then these Armenian debauches are still ours. "Charles Aznaur is our everything" The shoe of a Russian soldier is yours. We got there. They will try to start butchu. They still have something to lose .. So it's better to let the Russian language be taught in schools. Well, where is it seen that the Armenians do not know Russian. You watch the video from Karabakh and you are amazed.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 15 November 2020 11: 53 New
      0
      And they dance well. They would have fought like that. Some have already danced on the Maidan.
  8. ANB
    ANB 15 November 2020 10: 33 New
    +4
    ... For this, a special commission may be formed in the Turkish parliament,

    What has Turkey to do with it? Aliyev will figure it out himself.
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 November 2020 10: 34 New
    +3
    I see the Turks have dispersed! Is it too little to pay Armenia a couple of trillion euros for the Armenian genocide in 1915? And then, as one person said in one film, they began to "forge iron without leaving the box office" !!!
    1. Rubina
      Rubina 15 November 2020 23: 37 New
      0
      So they tried already, the European Court refused and ruled to consider the "so-called genocide" an opinion, not a crime.
  10. Bakinec
    Bakinec 15 November 2020 10: 42 New
    +5
    In this war, which began thanks to Pashinyan's political illiteracy, Russia and Azerbaijan won. Russia, because it has even more entrenched in the Transcaucasus, and Azerbaijan has returned its territories. In early September, no one in Azerbaijan could have thought that in November our flag would be in Shusha. Of course everyone dreamed, but the mediators France or the US would never allow Baku to start this war. But it turns out that negotiations were going on and issues were being resolved on the political sidelines. As a result, Russia and Azerbaijan got what they wanted. Some write that the Russian peacekeepers on Azerbaijani soil are a loss for Azerbaijan, but this is not true. Because the peacekeepers will protect Azerbaijanis from Armenians or vice versa. The main thing is that Azerbaijanis will return not only to the liberated territories (800 thousand people), but also to the zone of peacekeepers (200 thousand people). Moreover, these are figures from 30 years ago. If you look at the demographics over these 30 years, there are many more of them now. And there were 100-150 thousand Armenians in all the occupied territories. A maximum of 50 thousand will return to the zone of peacekeepers. If we compare the growth of the population of Azerbaijan and Armenia, then in 10 years there will be almost no one to protect themselves. But in my opinion, peacekeepers can stay at least 50 years. They do not bother anyone. In the end it is much better than it was before September.
    1. Cosm22
      Cosm22 15 November 2020 10: 51 New
      +1
      You are somehow modestly silent about Turkey's geopolitical gain, speaking about the gains of Russia and Azerbaijan.
      And he is undeniable.
      If Russia "has become even more entrenched in the Transcaucasus," then Turkey has simply strengthened itself in the Transcaucasus. No one could have thought of anything before.
      1. Bakinec
        Bakinec 15 November 2020 11: 00 New
        +1
        And that's why negotiations on the political sidelines so that everyone gets what they want, but not to the detriment of each other. If Turkey got something, then it does not bother Russia.
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 15 November 2020 11: 44 New
          -1
          If we consider the short telephone conversation between Putin and Erdogan as "negotiations on the political sidelines", then yes, no doubt. It just seems that when Turkey was pushing through (as it turned out - quite successfully) its interests in this region, it was not interested in the opinion of other parties. Including Russia.
          As for the statement "does not interfere", it is a good idea to keep the word "bye" in mind.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 15 November 2020 11: 57 New
      -3
      Well done, Azerbaijanis.
  11. K-50
    K-50 15 November 2020 11: 00 New
    +1
    Azerbaijani consul in the USA: Armenia did not calculate the consequences of the war with Azerbaijan

    It's good to puff out your cheeks! lol
    Without the Turks, you would still whine about Artsakh. laughing laughing
    They didn't even think about a forceful solution.
    They just took advantage of the fact that they won in Armenia, go from us and they began to excuse themselves from Russia, otherwise everything would remain the same! fellow yes lol lol
  12. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 15 November 2020 11: 24 New
    0
    Duc yoli-pali, for ten years I observed the range of weapons purchased by Azerbaijan, and compared them with Armenian attempts. For me, Armenia was doomed.
    The only chance they had was if they retained a status similar to Donbass, Transnistria, Ossetia.
    But alas, the Armenian people beguiled the Ramses, and their happiness is that Russia intervened at the last moment. Otherwise, Genocide and loss of statehood.
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 November 2020 11: 29 New
    +1
    Correctly
    Quote: Rubina
    Well, this topic is not worth stirring up. Likewise, the question of the illegal occupation of the Kazan, Astrakhan, Siberian and Crimean khanates can be raised.

    Here is a very brief description of the history of Crimea, hegemon after hegemon:
    starting from 500 BC

    - Scythians;
    - Greek colonists (the main trading cities were Chersonesos, Balaklava, Sudak and Kerch);
    - Pontic kingdom (Roman satellite state; the Romans built and created the garrison complex Kharax, not far from Kherson);
    - Germanic Goths (they are building a trade center and the Mangup fortress near Kherson);
    - Black Huns (they kept the Goths in a state of vassals until the death of Attila);
    - Goths and Sarmatians (the latter were steppe nomads in the traditions of the Scythians, who mainly lived in the vast fields of Crimea);
    - Byzantines (Emperor Justinian re-occupies, strengthens the Crimean outposts, from Chersonesos to Kerch);
    - Khazar Kaganate (until 1016, when they were destroyed in Kerch by ticks of the army of Kievan Rus and the Byzantine fleet);
    - Kievan Rus; - Byzantines / Kipchaks, as well as a significant number of Genoese, Venetians and Armenians.

    Armenians generally settled in Kaffa, making this Crimean port the world's largest slave market! The Kypchaks were originally steppe nomads who moved to the lands liberated by the Khazars, and acquired a taste for trade goods and lived in trading outposts.

    - Golden Horde (capital in Sarai, later New Saray). Batu, the first khan of the Golden Horde (grandson of Genghis Khan), is known as the "Kipchak Khan".

    - The Roman Sultanate! Former Seljuk sultan Kayhaus was given Crimea as a dowry when he marries the daughter of Berke Khan, Batu's younger brother. He ruled Crimea as a loyal appanage prince from 1265 to 1279; after his death, the board returns to Sarai and the Golden Horde.

    - The Golden Horde, again, loses its cohesion, and its part “ulus” (= district) disintegrates. Her name is changed to Great Horde.

    - Crimean Khanate (a large "ulus" of the Golden Horde / Great Horde, gaining independence in the 1440s) The historian of you is not crazy laughing
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 15 November 2020 12: 02 New
      +1
      Gennady, where is Ekaterina 2, Potemkin and Ushakov?
    2. Rubina
      Rubina 15 November 2020 23: 44 New
      -1
      Everything is correct. At first, there were Cimmerians in Crimea. And the Kazan Khanate absorbed a significant number of Finno-Ugrians, the Astrakhan Khanate dissolved the remnants of the Khazars. I wrote this as a counter-argument to the ridiculous offer of indemnity for the capture of Constantinople. His power, by the way, was not undermined by the Seljuks, but by the crusaders on the way to the Holy Land. By the time of the capture of Constantinople, less than 1 thousand remained of the former population of 100 million
  14. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 November 2020 11: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Rubina
    Well, this topic is not worth stirring up. Likewise, the question of the illegal occupation of the Kazan, Astrakhan, Siberian and Crimean khanates can be raised.

    Kazan Tatars and pro-Moscow rulers had before the Gireys, but we do not believe that Kazan was already near Moscow in those days. There the shingles of the khans were constantly being cut. There was no Ottoman subordination there. Especially about the Kazakhs and Siberia. 

    With the Crimean it is extremely controversial. The Gireys considered themselves the descendants of Genghis Khan and above all these Suleimans. laughing Look less at Discovery.
    1. Rubina
      Rubina 15 November 2020 23: 46 New
      0
      Everything is correct. It was simply a counter-argument to the ridiculous proposal to sue for the capture of Constantinople. IN
  15. Konnick
    Konnick 15 November 2020 11: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: Thrifty
    for the Armenian genocide in 1915 to pay Armenia a couple of trillion euros is weak?


    The main goal of the Armenians, they are waiting for the manna from heaven
  16. evgen1221
    evgen1221 15 November 2020 12: 11 New
    0
    Well, now it is clear that Baku has euphoria from victory. Well, maybe it will be better for Karabakh to live within Azerbaijan.
    1. iouris
      iouris 15 November 2020 12: 46 New
      +1
      This result could have been achieved without fighting. But since the war has begun (and has already ended), does it mean that someone needs it? What for? The answers to these questions can be obtained from the results of the war. Everyone got what they hoped for.
  17. Mmm.
    Mmm. 15 November 2020 12: 39 New
    0
    The defeat of Armenia is a payback, including for the Russophobic policy
    1. iouris
      iouris 15 November 2020 17: 12 New
      0
      The defeat of Armenia is the result of Moscow's policy.
      "Eh, crown of the Russian Empire, Catherine, you were wrong."
  18. tuts
    tuts 15 November 2020 13: 14 New
    +1
    but nothing that the first large-scale strikes were behind Azerbaijan
    Azerbaijan was ready and took advantage of it just like our troops conducted the Manchurian offensive operation in 1945
    1. iouris
      iouris 15 November 2020 17: 13 New
      0
      Just don't need these parallels. Azerbaijan and Armenia organized an imperialist war.
      1. tuts
        tuts 15 November 2020 20: 44 New
        0
        The Second World War also started by the imperialists (Imperialist Germany attacked imperialist Poland from which she had previously divided Czechoslovakia)
        And the Manchu offensive is part of the second world war
  19. Nikza
    Nikza 15 November 2020 13: 21 New
    0
    In Armenians, they scare the Turks :-) They were not very afraid of Azeris, but the Turks are another matter. First, the Azerbaijanis took away Karabakh. And to make it worse, the Turks were involved in the process. And, of course, the threat of complete defeat of Armenia. And now the Turks have already gathered to collect something from the Armenians. And to exact it, if the Armenians do not bring Pashinyan's head to the Kremlin :-))
  20. Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 15 November 2020 15: 43 New
    0
    Meanwhile, the officials in Turkey are talking about "the need to recover damages from Armenia during the years of occupation of the territory that did not belong to it."

    Hoo-ho they don't ho-ho? De jure Armenia is not at all involved. And in the NKR today there is a new "Head" - the commander of the OMS of the 15th brigade. Any questions?
  21. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 15 November 2020 15: 46 New
    +1
    Azerbaijan is blinded by a victory that does not quite belong to it. Thought they threw their hats, heheh?))
    Better to think about who actually owns the victory.
  22. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 15 November 2020 17: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: iouris
    It is known that the service rendered is worth nothing.

    Controversial claim ... Everything has a price.
    Quote: iouris
    The euphoria will pass quickly, a bitter hangover will come

    From what, a hangover? From losses (human)? Or acquisitions (territorial)?
    Quote: iouris
    some Turkish "gray wolves" will appear.

    Of course they can. But for this, it is necessary to change internal policy, and Aliyev is happy with everything. Don't forget about the diaspora and family ties.
  23. flicker
    flicker 15 November 2020 21: 45 New
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    Meanwhile, the officials in Turkey are talking about "the need to recover damages from Armenia during the years of occupation of the territory that did not belong to it."
    And that's a good idea.
    It will be necessary to recover damage from Turkey during the years of occupation of territories that did not belong to it ... SYRIA. bully
  24. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 16 November 2020 01: 54 New
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    Quote: hrych
    AF AzR showed that ... incapable of combat. And don't fall into the illusion of a "big" victory. The blitzkrieg was disrupted immediately, and for more than a month the NKR held out stubbornly resisting a hundred thousandth army, inflicting losses on equipment and soldiers, and held on in three main directions. And only when the southern front fell and the moment came when Armenia would have to intervene did Pashinyan go to war, and the owners did not allow him. 20 thousand Nakhchivans are not capable of conducting an offensive operation. Quite the opposite. And Aliyev understood this perfectly well when he went to the world, because when Armenia entered the war, everything would have just begun, and the Armed Forces of the AzR have already overstrained themselves. There is one arrival of a single tornado in Ganja, so the arches began to shake ...

    Hrych began to sing his song again? How is a blitzkrieg possible on the territory of which 316 enemy tanks are? These are only tanks, and only about 1000 units. armored vehicles. I'm not talking about air defense, artillery, MLRS, OTRK, layered defense at commanding heights with tunnels, etc. Tell me, about the wisest of strategists, how long can it take to knock out more than 300 enemy tanks?)) Moreover, without the use of aviation (this is Don't you Aleppo) In 4-5 days?) Blitzkrieg you say? Not able to fight?) You're more Armenian than Pashinyan, Harutyunyan or the chief of the General Staff of Armenia, who stated that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces were already 1-2 km away. from Khankendi, and the Armenians had no opportunity to stop them. How Az.BS ended up in the heart of the supposedly impregnable Naga. Karabakh, and taking a natural fortress - Shusha?
    In addition, Khrych, for some reason, the entire Armenian police in Karabakh fought (and the Armenian army allegedly did not fight, judging by your "discovery"). By the way, the Armenian police suffered heavy losses, and due to the absence of police in Yerevan, they could not protect crowds of government buildings.
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