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Newest Russian electronic warfare system delivered to Karabakh

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Russian peacekeepers have deployed the latest electronic warfare system on the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. Vehicles with the RB-341V "Leer-3" complex with the "Orlan-10" UAVs were seen when the Russian convoy was moving to the place of deployment.


The Leer-3 complex itself technically consists of one KAMAZ vehicle with the corresponding filling and two (three) Orlan-10 UAVs. Calculation of the complex - 4 people. The complex specializes in GSM networks. A special feature of the complex is the delivery of electronic warfare and electronic warfare systems to the target using Orlan-10 drones.

The drone has a range of 120 km, the time spent in the air is 10 hours. Flight altitude - 5 km, speed: max - 150, cruising - 80 km / h.

The drone can carry a different load, depending on which it can perform the following actions: suppress mobile communications, simulate the operation of a cellular base station in the GSM 900, 1800, 2000, 2500 ranges and send false messages, detect phones, tablets, etc., conducting reconnaissance, plotting the location of subscriber points on a digital map, transmitting data about the location of subscriber points to artillery crews for a fire strike.

Depending on the equipment, the drone can work with subscribers at a distance of 3,5 to 6 km.

The complex was tested in combat conditions in Syria, where it confirmed its characteristics.
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  1. tol100v
    tol100v 14 November 2020 18: 42 New
    +4
    Why advertise the means used? Or has the article (CC) disappeared?
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        1. Sergey Averchenkov
          Sergey Averchenkov 14 November 2020 19: 09 New
          26
          It was rough. Not pretty. Disgusting. Not only do you live in this state, many have a different opinion.
          1. JD1979
            JD1979 15 November 2020 00: 00 New
            -11 qualifying.
            Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
            It was rough. Not pretty. Disgusting. Not only do you live in this state, many have a different opinion.

            But, nevertheless, it turns out so. After a bunch of TV and YouTube channels painted this "magic wand" for many years to drive away any missiles, they got another loss at the end of 2020.
            On April 24, 2019, TASS, referring to materials from the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant, reported that all Mi-35M combat transport and combat helicopters in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces are equipped with the Vitebsk airborne defense system

            And then a natural question arises: either the wand is not magic, or it is not located everywhere, despite the statement that this system will be on all aircraft and not a single board without it will be in the zone or next to the OBD zone.
            1. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 15 November 2020 01: 05 New
              +9
              Besides "but still" there are many more factors. How can I explain to you ... Of course it's not worth it everywhere, I served in 84-86. The same helicopters are all the same. But this does not mean that they are bad, and it does not mean that we cannot do the best. The magic wand happens only in fairy tales - my daughter loves them, I sometimes tell her, mixing fantasy with history. Why am I telling her this? Can it be easier to say that we (Russians) can no longer do anything and our hypostasis is trailing behind the United States? Judging by some of the messages that I read, and I read a lot - that's the way it is.
              There is no magic wand that will save you, and not when not. There is a magic wand that will kill you.
              1. krot
                krot 15 November 2020 08: 16 New
                +1
                And then a logical question arises: either the wand is not magic, or it is not located everywhere

                I dare to disappoint you! There are no magic wands in nature!
                It turns out that there are even adults who believe in wands, probably in wizards too)))
                We have the best electronic warfare systems in the world today. The same USA lagged behind us, which they themselves admitted many times! Of course the striped ones are trying to close the gap and in some way it will work out apparently.
                1. zinoviy
                  zinoviy 16 November 2020 18: 05 New
                  -2
                  "The same USA has lagged behind us" - did the Zvezda TV channel tell you? Yes, and I would like to read about the confessions, did you find them somewhere?
            2. SSR
              SSR 15 November 2020 09: 14 New
              +2
              Quote: JD1979
              question: either the wand is not magic, or it is not installed everywhere, despite the statement that this system will be installed on all aircraft

              Those helicopters on which the installation was planned are installed on them, if my memory serves me this is from 8 to 11 helicopters, and as a result, it is planned to be outdated for all the rest, new helicopters, I have not heard about modernization and installation on old ones.
              Most likely, the phrases were taken out of context.
        2. sergo1914
          sergo1914 14 November 2020 19: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Tol100v
          Why advertise the means used? Or has the article (CC) disappeared?

          make excuses for the "empty" MI 24 ... without the "president".

          Why the fuck is wrong, schoolboys? and so it was.


          Whoa! From quoting hobbits, I immediately switched to quoting King Solomon, good progress)).
      2. Lexus
        Lexus 14 November 2020 19: 24 New
        -33 qualifying.
        On top of that, the GSM standard has hopelessly sunk into oblivion.
        1. Mini Mokik
          Mini Mokik 14 November 2020 19: 36 New
          47
          Every phone has GSM, not every phone has LTE. In that area, I doubt there is LTE at all. So even the most modern smarts will be automatically connected to GSM.
        2. Bradley
          Bradley 14 November 2020 19: 37 New
          18
          What, no one calls through a smartphone over a regular connection? I myself use Watsapp, telegrams, but not everyone has them, far from everyone, and therefore I have to call via GSM.
          1. madrobot
            madrobot 15 November 2020 05: 58 New
            +4
            Yes sir. Personally, I have an ordinary "clamshell". In addition to direct voice communication and SMS, it is used as a clock, alarm clock and calendar. For everything else, I have a tablet and a desktop.
            PS: I do not live in the forest, unless Ekb is considered as such. It's just that "the monkey has become weak with eyes in old age" and smart does not suit me categorically as a universal tool.
          2. Ugochaves
            Ugochaves 16 November 2020 03: 05 New
            0
            Sorry of course, but your whatsapp and telegram data teleport? We have the same data transmission in GSM networks, only the transmission technologies are different.
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 14 November 2020 20: 11 New
        +5
        No, Daddy, if it was a competent ambush, then he could well have been "treated" with a couple of RPG shots, given the very difficult terrain there - and no "president" would have helped there.
        It was in the evening and it was quite comfortable to aim from the RPG
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 November 2020 22: 01 New
          +3
          what?) into a helicopter moving at a speed of a couple of hundred km?) seriously?)))
          1. Kostya Lavinyukov
            Kostya Lavinyukov 15 November 2020 03: 18 New
            +1
            There were cases of volley fire at a flying (sitting in nothing from a truck) helicopter from an RPG in Afghanistan. + during the last exacerbation in Karabakh, one Azerbaijani Mi-24 was shot down with a single shot (but it was not specified whether it was flying at that moment). In any case, you can shoot only point-blank and in the forehead or tail, at a very low height. It wouldn't have happened here.
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 15 November 2020 09: 24 New
            +1
            Only suicides fly at a speed of "a couple of hundred" in the mountains, and then only until the first turn
        2. avg
          avg 14 November 2020 22: 16 New
          +7
          There is a video of the defeat of a man-made missile defense helicopter, there was no RPG.
      4. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 14 November 2020 20: 15 New
        14
        What's the point? If in Eribuni we had ancient flying trash?
        There, the only combatant MiG-29 model 9-13 in the whole of Russia, released in Soviet times.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 14 November 2020 23: 51 New
          +2
          But I'm also curious why there are so outdated weapons. There were rumors that Armenia was against the modernization of the base, but something seems to me more likely to be a matter of the Defense Ministry's policy. Rearmament is painfully slow to reach foreign bases.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 15 November 2020 00: 03 New
            14
            Quote: alexmach
            There were rumors that Armenia was against the modernization of the base,

            - in fact, Pashinyan imposed a ban on the replacement of aircraft in the 18th. And the replacement is overripe. Similar to the Ukrainians in the Crimea, they spent a long time putting sticks in the wheels, replacing the Su-17 with the Su-24. And then a ban was generally imposed on new ships and aircraft. The tracing of the partners' actions is evident

            Quote: alexmach
            here it is rather a matter of MO policy. Rearmament is painfully slow to reach foreign bases.

            On the one hand, it is correct, but in this case it is secondary. By the way, in KOR, they are in no hurry to change the old Su-27, which are not modernized. Although they remained in the Air Force, together with the UB, about 40-45 aircraft. One squadron in Crimea so far remained and KOR. There is no understanding. Or already IAP or even IAE.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 15 November 2020 00: 27 New
              +3
              One squadron in Crimea so far remained and KOR. There is no understanding. Or already IAP or even IAE.

              It may even be logical - there they are constantly meeting "partners" and seeing them off. Maybe let the old machines use up the resource to the end.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 15 November 2020 00: 34 New
                +7
                Apparently it is - because they meet, uh, partners over the Baltic, namely that the Su-27S / P. I have never seen naval Su-30SM there. Along the way, the situation is the same in the Crimea.
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 15 November 2020 01: 36 New
          +3
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          What's the point? If in Eribuni we had ancient flying trash?
          There, the only combatant MiG-29 model 9-13 in the whole of Russia, released in Soviet times.

          Right. However, it makes sense to keep something modern there, if it is destroyed with one blow, if it is a missile strike on the runway, then even the duty unit of our MiGs and Armenian Su-30s will not have time to rise into the air ... the case is helicopters, but they must be kept in different locations ... ready to perform tasks in disparate groups according to pre-prepared plans ...
          I think that such a number of Russian Aerospace Forces fighters in Armenia is excessive (18 fighters) ...
          In addition to Russian fighters, Erebuni has mixed helicopter regiment (Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters) and military transport aviation (Il-76) of the Armenian Air Force, The infrastructure of the airport is frankly outdated - runways with asphalt surfaces, "ancient" radio equipment.
          It must be said that the Russian base in Armenia did not have a high priority in the first years of its existence. At that time, Russia, with a catastrophic lack of financial resources, had more "hot" problems in Central Asia and the North Caucasus. Nonetheless in 1998, the reorganization of the 426th air group began. The size of the group was increased to 170 people, to replace the six MiG-23, according to the new state, 18 MiG-29 were supposed to arrive (16 combat 9-13 and two sparks 9-51).

          https://military.wikireading.ru/53449
          in Abkhazia they would be more useful ...
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 15 November 2020 10: 22 New
            0
            However, it makes sense to keep something modern there, if it is destroyed with one blow, if it is a missile strike on the runway, then even the duty unit of our MiGs and Armenian Su-30s will not have time to rise into the air ... the case is helicopters, but they must be kept in different locations ... ready to perform tasks in disparate groups according to pre-prepared plans ...
            I think that such a number of Russian Aerospace Forces fighters in Armenia is excessive (18 fighters) ...


            I would change the old Soviet-built MiGs - for "Alzhirskie" SMT
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 14 November 2020 19: 16 New
      -14 qualifying.
      There would be our shock drones "just in case" to send, with the appropriate weapons, but so far we have few, unfortunately, in stock!
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 14 November 2020 19: 35 New
        24
        What kind of shock drones are there and where to send there reconnaissance-art system bundles for the eyes is enough. Distances tea is not half the globe. In general, the best protection of our peacekeepers is the Armenian and Azerbaijani diasporas in Russia. None of the parties to the conflict has any advantage over Russia. Everyone understands this very well. Their entire territory is being fired upon by Russian other more efficient systems. Also, the Caspian flotilla will turn any not smart into hell. So everything that is needed to defend the peacekeepers is there.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 14 November 2020 20: 16 New
          +3
          What kind of shock drones are there and where to send there reconnaissance-art system bundles for the eyes is enough. Distances tea is not half the globe. ...


          That's right ..

          In general, the best protection of our peacekeepers is the Armenian and Azerbaijani diasporas in Russia


          This is yes.
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 14 November 2020 21: 47 New
          -13 qualifying.
          Quote: Observer2014
          What kind of shock drones are there and where to send there reconnaissance-art system bundles for the eyes is enough. Distances tea is not half the globe. In general, the best protection of our peacekeepers is the Armenian and Azerbaijani diasporas in Russia. None of the parties to the conflict has any advantage over Russia. Everyone understands this very well. Their entire territory is being fired upon by Russian other more efficient systems. Also, the Caspian flotilla will turn any not smart into hell. So everything that is needed to defend the peacekeepers is there.


          Those. Are you saying bluntly about going back to the Middle Ages and taking hostages?
          Aren't you afraid of a mirror answer?
          Well, there, that such strategic cities for our country such as Surgut, Novy Urengoy, Kogalym - have a share of non-Slavic population of about 40-70% ...
          Have you thought about this?


          About the Caspian Flotilla and hell - did you really think so?
          8 CD in Dagestan.
          8 CD in Uglich. Sviyazhsk and Ustyug of the same type have not been to the Caspian for a long time.

          Are you planning to turn Azerbaijan into hell with only 16 tactical CDs? How many Tomahawks flew to Shayrat there? 60 seems?

          Oh, these uryakalka ... Well, I understand, they would know at least something ... But after all, they don't know anything and they don't even try to find out
          1. Graz
            Graz 14 November 2020 22: 26 New
            -3
            SovAr238A
            it is necessary to take the heads of the diasporas in Russia hostage in case of an exacerbation, and it is better to raze one city to the ground, figuratively speaking, than then everyone will wipe their feet about us, and in a situation with our non-reaction to the shooting down of our helicopter, we are very close to this, our soldier must to have an official order to shoot immediately to kill in the event of a threat to peacekeepers, and the missile forces must immediately strike at targets disassembled in advance, of course, it makes little sense to destroy cities, but oil and gas 100%, in the trash and so that the poor Azerbaijanis for decades to come, this The best option is to make Armenians beggars and Azeris beggars, so that they cannot scrape together for weapons and cannot fight.
            1. ANB
              ANB 14 November 2020 23: 11 New
              +9
              ... the heads of the diasporas in Russia should be taken hostage in the event of an aggravation

              What are the hostages? Business is selected. And that's all.
          2. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 15 November 2020 10: 46 New
            +1
            SovAr238A "Well, there, that such strategic cities for our country such as Surgut, Novy Urengoy, Kogalym - have a share of non-Slavic population of about 40-70% ..."
            Fierce nonsense ...)))) Open the census data and study it before writing.))) In which of the listed cities the non-Slavic population is 70%. Who is it for? 40% of these cities do not have a non-Slavic population either. If you add Tatars to the Bashkirs, it will be at their expense that it will be under 20 percent, and then not in all cities.))) But they are far from the Caucasians both in terms of interests and mentality.)))
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 15 November 2020 12: 36 New
              -1
              Quote: Nagaibak
              SovAr238A "Well, there, that such strategic cities for our country such as Surgut, Novy Urengoy, Kogalym - have a share of non-Slavic population of about 40-70% ..."
              Fierce nonsense ...)))) Open the census data and study it before writing.))) In which of the listed cities the non-Slavic population is 70%. Who is it for? 40% of these cities do not have a non-Slavic population either. If you add Tatars to the Bashkirs, it will be at their expense that it will be under 20 percent, and then not in all cities.))) But they are far from the Caucasians both in terms of interests and mentality.)))


              I spend six months there (in the North) every year ...
              You were there?
              Go to any store, any shopping center, any car service, etc.

              The vast majority of both workers and visitors.
              In any school - now half of the students there have exactly the Kazkaz component.

              And about the census it is not necessary to carry nonsense.
              In Moscow, before the age of 17, there were up to 2,5 million "belmeshki" ...
              Was it at least somehow reflected in the census?
              1. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 15 November 2020 17: 39 New
                0
                SovAr238A "I spend six months there (in the North) every year ...
                You were there?"
                Be six months old and live different things. It's just that these guys are all in trade and in the service sector ... it seems that there are a lot of them.)))) You still go to the wholesaler.)))) Do you have any numbers? They are in the same Wikipedia censuses and so on. Of the 300000 thousand in Surgut, how many do you think are 40 or 70%?)))) I know about 4000 Azerbaijanis in the entire Surgut. Well, let the official figures do not suit you, well, consider that there are 40000 of them)))) who is more?)))) Let's fantasize further.))) In schools, half?))) Come on.)))
            2. Captain45
              Captain45 15 November 2020 17: 16 New
              0
              Quote: Nagaibak
              Fierce nonsense ...)))) Open the census data and study it before writing.))) В

              It's a long time to search the archive, but take my word for it, in 2012 in Krasnoyarsk 19%, in Norilsk 20% of the urban population are Azerbaijanis. Officially, according to the FMS. And I don't know a single fact that they went from stalls to trenches to fight off Karabakh, but Slavs from Norilsk and Krasnoyarsk went to Donbass more than once.
              1. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 15 November 2020 17: 56 New
                0
                Captain45 "in 2012 in Krasnoyarsk 19%, in Norilsk 20% of the urban population are Azerbaijanis."
                That is, in Krasnoyarsk, out of 1 million 93 thousand inhabitants, 19% of the population?))) And in 2010 there were 7000 thousand. And in 2020 there were 240000? Well, yes, this is nonsense, of course.))) According to the results of the All-Russian population census of 2002, 621 Azerbaijanis lived in Russia; according to the results of 840 - 2010 people. Well, let them be twice as many ... all the same, there are not 603 thousand of them in Krasnoyarsk, and therefore this is nonsense.))) I agree with the rest about the trenches there and so on.)))
          3. sifgame
            sifgame 15 November 2020 19: 09 New
            0
            Well, of course, a well-fed Armenian or Azerbaijan sits in Surgut and dreams of making a revolution there or what? He will sit there quietly further. Maintain an underground game room and eat muksun. And nafig him this war. Write shit
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 14 November 2020 19: 38 New
        +2
        So far three. A couple of weeks ago, the troops left.
      3. johnatan.kowalski
        johnatan.kowalski 15 November 2020 02: 44 New
        -11 qualifying.
        What ??? You are a victim of advertising on the first channel, we will soon start buying buyraktars
    3. Igar
      Igar 14 November 2020 19: 43 New
      +9
      Screen from the MO video. Come on, tell them about the UK ...
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 14 November 2020 20: 13 New
      +9
      Quote: Tol100v
      Why advertise the means used? Or has the article (CC) disappeared?

      Yes, it seems like no one advertises. Such photographs (similar to the one published in the article) along the route of the convoy, from unloading at the airport to the place of deployment, were spanked by everyone who passed by and who had a mobile with a camera. It makes no sense to keep it there under a tarp or in a hangar. On the other hand, let the ill-wishers know that our contingent will be given all the necessary means to counter their inclinations. hi
    5. My doctor
      My doctor 14 November 2020 20: 33 New
      +9
      Quote: Tol100v
      Why advertise the means used? Or has the article (CC) disappeared?

      Wow, you are our secretary. Do you think if you can't see on the couch, then no one can see?
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    7. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 14 November 2020 21: 15 New
      +5
      Neither the appearance nor the location (if it is in the public domain) is secret. Do you think Turkey, Azerbaijan and other blind people do not see what the peacekeepers have?
    8. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 14 November 2020 21: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Tol100v
      Why advertise the means used? Or has the article (CC) disappeared?


      Ohtyzhezhikikolyuchie, look what!

      Have you ever seen this?
      In early October 2015, Leer-3 became an exhibit at the Innovation Day of the Southern Military District exhibition.
      The guests of the exhibition "Day of Innovations of the Southern Military District" could see various military equipment in service with the troops of the district.
      https://productcenter.ru/articles/russia/5271/dien-innovatsii-iuvo-komplieks-reb-rb-341-nbsp-v-laquo-lieier-3-raquo

      As I understand it, the mind of some, like knowledge, is simply absent ...
    9. Alexey Tyushin
      Alexey Tyushin 15 November 2020 01: 24 New
      -1
      Advertising .. Designed for propaganda, possibly for commercial purposes.
    10. 76rtbr
      76rtbr 15 November 2020 04: 34 New
      +1
      you just found out, and so the whole Caucasian district vkurse
    11. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 15 November 2020 10: 52 New
      0
      tol100v "Why advertise the means used? Or the article (Criminal Code) has disappeared?"
      There is a video on the network where tanks and hailstones are going under Russian flags supposedly (and maybe in fact) towards Karabakh.))) Will this also be a military secret?)))
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  2. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 14 November 2020 18: 46 New
    19
    Well, what can I say. It's good that they arrived armed with all kinds of weapons. Gone are the days of bayonet attacks, horse lava. Now is the time for electronic warfare, unmanned lava, the ability to use all of this. May all our guys return home safe and sound.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 14 November 2020 18: 49 New
      +9
      Quote: 30 vis
      May all our guys return home safe and sound.

      The best you could wish for! And also GOOD LUCK!
      1. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 14 November 2020 19: 13 New
        +1
        May all our guys return home safe and sound.

        The best you could wish for! And also GOOD LUCK!

        For what "careless" word minus someone put? Who else has not enough blood?
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 14 November 2020 19: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Kopychev
          May all our guys return home safe and sound.

          The best you could wish for! And also GOOD LUCK!

          For what "careless" word minus someone put? Who else has not enough blood?

          lol Sleeping agents of influence ... laughing ladies and sirs "loving" Russia!
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 14 November 2020 21: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: 30 vis
            Sleeping agents of influence .... ladies and sirs "loving" Russia!

            Judging by the minuses that have appeared -Sleeping ladies wassat fool woke up! Draw up cons! They "love" Russia!
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 14 November 2020 21: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: 30 vis
              Quote: 30 vis
              Sleeping agents of influence .... ladies and sirs "loving" Russia!

              Judging by the minuses that have appeared -Sleeping ladies wassat fool woke up! Draw up cons! They "love" Russia!


              Your words are just empty.
              They have no semantic meaning.
              Every second post contains wishes.

              The constant repetition of the same words as a mantra completely devalues ​​the meaning of what was said, for the person to whom they are addressed.
              And your words will not turn into a prayer either.
              For this, and minus.
    2. figwam
      figwam 14 November 2020 18: 53 New
      +1
      It looks like the confrontation with Turkey will grow.
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 November 2020 19: 10 New
      -2
      Quote: 30 vis
      Well, what can I say. It's good that they arrived armed with all kinds of weapons. Gone are the days of bayonet attacks, horse lava. Now is the time for electronic warfare, unmanned lava, the ability to use all of this. May all our guys return home safe and sound.

      class ... I'll try .. It's good that over our peacekeepers, watchful UAVs are hanging, transmitting the situation in real time, the Armenians are happily chanting at the side of the road - Russia - առաջ! and "kebabs" fry mutton day and night in honor of our soldiers. (This is how it should be, by definition) (for garlic, so they generally have to in life) after frying ... mutton, Armenia loved the phase that decides the outcome of the war 21 century - technology, and here, I take off my hat, to Azerbaijan, they subtly grasped the essence, and reacted, well done. They showed that you can be small, but dangerous, and you can be small and defenseless. I have no reverence for either Armenia or Azerbaijan, both countries are dear to me, due to historical coincidence of circumstances.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 14 November 2020 19: 34 New
        12
        Quote: Dead Day
        technology decides the outcome of the war of the 21st century, and here, I take off my hat, to Azerbaijan, they subtly grasped the essence and reacted, well done. They showed that you can be small, but dangerous, and you can be small and defenseless. I have no reverence for either Armenia or Azerbaijan, both countries are dear to me, due to historical coincidence of circumstances.

        Taking this into account, the command of the Russian contingent was not an Azerbaijani or an Armenian, but a Russian general, a native of the Caucasus (of Tabasaran origin, one of the indigenous peoples of Dagestan) - Rustam Muradov.
        By the way, in 2016 he was the representative of Russia in the Joint Russian-Ukrainian Center for Control and Coordination of Ceasefire and Stabilization of the Line of Delimitation of the Parties (JCCC) in Donbass.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 14 November 2020 19: 41 New
          11
          An amazing biography at 39, a general and all by himself. By the way, quite a lot of experience, two Chechens and Syria.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 14 November 2020 19: 42 New
            10
            Quote: tralflot1832
            An amazing biography at 39, a general and all by himself. By the way, quite a lot of experience, two Chechens and Syria.

            In my opinion, he got a Hero for Syria.
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 15 November 2020 03: 57 New
          -4
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: Dead Day
          technology decides the outcome of the war of the 21st century, and here, I take off my hat, to Azerbaijan, they subtly grasped the essence and reacted, well done. They showed that you can be small, but dangerous, and you can be small and defenseless. I have no reverence for either Armenia or Azerbaijan, both countries are dear to me, due to historical coincidence of circumstances.

          Taking this into account, the command of the Russian contingent was not an Azerbaijani or an Armenian, but a Russian general, a native of the Caucasus (of Tabasaran origin, one of the indigenous peoples of Dagestan) - Rustam Muradov.
          By the way, in 2016 he was the representative of Russia in the Joint Russian-Ukrainian Center for Control and Coordination of Ceasefire and Stabilization of the Line of Delimitation of the Parties (JCCC) in Donbass.

          this is interesting, thanks for the comment, in the Troops, a western, very western, extremely western group of troops, I had a reliable friend, Nizamov Nizam Najav oglu.
          (I don't remember how to do it correctly, I beg your pardon), it is very difficult to remember everyone, we had ... all ... everyone who was called up from the territory of the USSR. there are not 15 not 17 nationalities .... after the "lights out" when "the" duty-alarming "light starts to work, we also have a" politez "... they laughed at the shortcomings of all races, it was a waste of time, the Khakass laughed at the Buryats , Russians over Ukrainians, Belarusians over both ... it was fun, why quarrel when see
          is it ok?
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 14 November 2020 20: 17 New
        +2
        Great, grandpa!
        Common sense should suppress any emotion: from love for a gun to love for a woman (and a cup of sweet Turkish coffee before ...) lol
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 15 November 2020 04: 00 New
          -1
          Quote: hydrox
          Common sense should suppress any emotion: from love for a gun to love for a woman (and a cup of sweet Turkish coffee before ...)

          let meaning lead to love, not war. drinks
      3. Amba412
        Amba412 14 November 2020 22: 53 New
        +1
        It was not technology that fought in Karabakh, but people. With the arsenal that the Armenians had and wasting it so ineptly ............ Mata is not enough.
  3. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 14 November 2020 18: 52 New
    +1
    This is about the use of civilian cell phones when performing combat missions. Who takes them to the position of war criminals. Systems of the Leer-3 type can detect the exact location of the enemy by cell phones and other GSM devices. Naturally, the enemy also has similar ground and airborne systems.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 14 November 2020 19: 46 New
      +9
      As the police say, urkagans go to business without their cell phones. When they arrive on a 152 mm cell SMS, they will understand.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 14 November 2020 19: 49 New
        -1
        Quote: tralflot1832
        As the police say, urkagans go to business without cell phones

        Yes. At the end of the XNUMXs, the location of the cell phone in the city was determined with an accuracy of several meters. The data was stored for several weeks. Checked on myself laughing
    2. t-12
      t-12 14 November 2020 22: 09 New
      0
      the exact location of the enemy by cell phones and other devices with GSM.
      The exact location is determined by to any radio signal: GSM, 3G, 4G, WiFi, civilian radio, army radio ...
  4. ficus2003
    ficus2003 14 November 2020 19: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: figvam
    It looks like the confrontation with Turkey will grow.

    Not so much with Turkey as with the USA & satellites, but this is not news.
  5. V1er
    V1er 14 November 2020 19: 08 New
    15
    I noticed that as the situation settled down, the Azerbaijanis disappeared somewhere from the site.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 14 November 2020 19: 14 New
      10
      V1er-not all, but most are really missing yet! In general, do not remember them at night, otherwise they will appear, and they will start to boast about what kind of army they are. lol as they in one fell swoop with seven kills wassat .
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 14 November 2020 19: 50 New
        -6
        Our army is really cool! Do not envy)) Turn, we have enough things to do)
        1. t-12
          t-12 14 November 2020 22: 12 New
          +4
          It's not your army that is tough, but the Armenians have a doltish one.
    2. seti
      seti 14 November 2020 19: 14 New
      15
      Quote: V1er
      I noticed that as the situation settled down, the Azerbaijanis disappeared somewhere from the site.

      And thank God. The war is over propaganda is not so urgent.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 14 November 2020 19: 40 New
        14
        Quote: seti
        Quote: V1er
        I noticed that as the situation settled down, the Azerbaijanis disappeared somewhere from the site.

        And thank God. The war is over propaganda is not so urgent.

        I want to note that one or two here, energetically and patiently, promoted the line of Azerbaijan, but disappeared simultaneously with the signed truce winked .

        Hey! Guys from Baku! So, too, do not substitute carefully No. wink
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 14 November 2020 20: 03 New
          12
          And you suggest to them to wait steadily for another 30 years here on the site? Until the Armenians accumulate forces for revenge hi
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 14 November 2020 20: 10 New
            +9
            Quote: Pavlos Melas
            And you suggest to them to wait steadily for another 30 years here on the site? Until the Armenians accumulate forces for revenge hi

            hi
            Ha, well then let them repeat the mistake of the Armenians (the war of 1991-94).
            How are the wise men there winked "what doesn't train dies" yes
            1. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 14 November 2020 20: 50 New
              +6
              This landing will now intensively learn Arabic, prove which Persians are bad wink
        2. Alesi13
          Alesi13 14 November 2020 20: 19 New
          0
          And what is the setup? Has Azerbaijan lost something?
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 14 November 2020 23: 42 New
            +4
            Quote: Alesi13
            And what is the setup?
            No CHE SE !? belay winked .
            Objectivity!
        3. Alesi13
          Alesi13 14 November 2020 20: 20 New
          +1
          What exactly do you want to hear
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 14 November 2020 23: 48 New
            +9
            Quote: Alesi13
            What exactly do you want to hear

            How Azerbaijan is investigating a crime related to the premeditated murder of our pilots.
            1. Karpo
              Karpo 15 November 2020 10: 30 New
              -2
              Quote: Terenin
              Quote: Alesi13
              What exactly do you want to hear

              How Azerbaijan is investigating a crime related to the premeditated murder of our pilots.

              And our investigation team is allowed to investigate !!!!
              ..And they are afraid of this in Azerbaijan, because the stigma is in the gun, like other special services tied to this negative
              The bookmark remained with Russia and especially with our military, who can also "make a mistake" if that.
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 15 November 2020 10: 38 New
                +5
                Quote: Karpo
                The bookmark remained with Russia and especially with our military, who can also "make a mistake" if that.

                Well, how else, if, on the basis of "deceiving a non-believer", they deliberately put the principle in the algorithm of their actions, killed-apologized-shipped tomatoes-killed-apologized-shipped ...
      2. Renator
        Renator 14 November 2020 23: 43 New
        0
        Quote: seti
        And thank God. The war is over propaganda is not so urgent.

        Propaganda or not, readers were attracted to topwar!
    3. Azimuth
      Azimuth 14 November 2020 20: 15 New
      +8
      The war is over, they have "Take your gun, let's go home" laughing
      Plus, apparently, many are disappointed with the ending, in another news / article he teased the most active here MTN questions about the meaning of the war and losses, and before that multibillion-dollar expenses, if in the end they received those areas that the Armenians had already given in exchange for the status of Karabakh and the same Lachin corridor. True, Karabakh now seems to have no status yet, but on their territory there are now essentially two foreign military bases, and of different states, and this loss of sovereignty is not easy only over Karabakh. Judging by the news and communication with our locals, such sentiments are very strong, in Baku every day they write whole dastans explaining the results of victory ... We have one on the market, fought in the 90s, in the "first Karabakh war", was a commander reconnaissance, shell-shocked. They started talking, while he stammered swore, expressing everything he thought, and I forgot why the hostess sent to the market.
    4. Rubina
      Rubina 14 November 2020 22: 48 New
      +5
      We have not disappeared anywhere. Here we. Just informational material. What is there to discuss? As for the diaspora, I agree as guarantors. That is why Russia did not immediately intervene in the conflict. Armenia's intractability prevented everyone from earning money, and Azerbaijan, and Georgia, and Turkey, and Russia, and Iran. So it was unrealistic to expect that the neighbors would give up their profits for the sake of Armenia's unrealizable hopes.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 15 November 2020 10: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Rubina
        Armenia's intractability prevented everyone from earning money, and Azerbaijan, and Georgia, and Turkey, and Russia, and Iran.

        They forgot to include a clause in the agreement on Karabakh on Armenia's obligation to stop putting obstacles to Azerbaijan's economic integration into the EAEU, i.e. with Russia and its partners.
  6. opuonmed
    opuonmed 14 November 2020 19: 17 New
    +2
    Well, it's good that there is a Che plakhova?
  7. Well done
    Well done 14 November 2020 19: 29 New
    +1
    And I'm worried about the lack of an air defense system. A large military grouping from the air is openly covered with NOTHING. And the Sultan has cockroaches in his head ... and ambitions ... and Azerbaijanis with militants.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 14 November 2020 19: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Welldone
      And I'm worried about the lack of air defense systems

      I don’t believe not. Although the peacekeepers are scattered in small groups at checkpoints over a vast territory. How to cover them up? To "pull" air defense over a large region, and even mountainous, is not an easy task.
      1. Well done
        Well done 14 November 2020 20: 03 New
        +2
        Technical issues of "pulling" air defense in the mountains are not for me. But where are the guarantees that tomorrow is a bayraktar or the like? "accidentally!!!" not shandarahn on peacekeepers? In fact, the "incident" with the Mi-24 got away with the "sultans"! And they love this. The perpetrators will be punished on camera ... (for example, a hefty clever shepherd with MANPADS), and behind the scenes "Allah ....!" and a medal ..
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 14 November 2020 20: 38 New
        +1
        I don’t think there are madmen to pack our peacekeepers. 08 08 08 remember, we stopped forty kilometers from the capital. But they smashed everything that could. Look at the map of bomb attacks, it will be interesting. When I saw it, I was surprised.
        1. t-12
          t-12 14 November 2020 22: 15 New
          +2
          I won't say about the attack, but they will most likely fly "for reconnaissance purposes."

          But in general, the Turks do not need Karabakh, but a corridor to the Caspian Sea.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 14 November 2020 22: 38 New
            +1
            The Turks received energy supplies at fraternal prices, but I don’t know where they will carry them further. I would like to see Europe. As far as the Caspian Sea in Central Asia, this is China’s fiefdom. With loans from China, everyone is tied there, I cannot say anything about Kazakhstan ... hi
            1. t-12
              t-12 14 November 2020 22: 45 New
              +2
              Caspian Sea, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, Uighurs in China.

              + sluggish work in Tatarstan, Crimea and the Caucasus
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 14 November 2020 23: 37 New
                -1
                If China's plans for 150 billion Baki in Iran are implemented, Erdogan's plans will be covered with a copper basin. He will only have Syria, Lebanon and Greece. I don't see the influence of the Turks in Sochi, here is the second capital of Armenia. lol
                1. t-12
                  t-12 14 November 2020 23: 52 New
                  +1
                  A total of 400 lard. But the US and India will be against the deal. And here it may well come to blocking tankers with "bad" Iranian oil, or even to a "hot" war.
  8. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 14 November 2020 19: 39 New
    +1
    A wonderful thing! Technical progress. That would be a mobile phone at the mother-in-law - to direct the artillery ..)
    1. Yura
      Yura 14 November 2020 19: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      That would be a mobile phone at the mother-in-law - to direct the artillery ..)

      Kindly, give the mother-in-law a phone number, I will snitch, she will not do without a deli, we will drink with you, a snack from me. drinks
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 14 November 2020 20: 04 New
        +3
        For the sake of such a case, I'll put out a snack myself. )
  9. Yujanin
    Yujanin 14 November 2020 19: 50 New
    -2
    The relief in Karabakh is special. So it begs for a guerrilla war.
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    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 14 November 2020 20: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: Yujanin
      The relief in Karabakh is special. So it begs for a guerrilla war.


      Guerrilla warfare in our time
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 14 November 2020 20: 45 New
      +5
      What kind of war? Partisan? wassat And you will be able to partisan for a long time in the mountains. laughingWell, not if you sit in a cave and partisan without leaving there. Yes, you won't die of covid, or you will defeat covid. wassat
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 14 November 2020 21: 24 New
        +3
        Well, if you dig a dugout in the frozen ground and put a potbelly stove (which will appear from just desire), plus at least friendship-2 and many other little things (including women) ... well, then it is possible to sit out the winter. Or it will gain a foothold in the equipped point and use its capabilities. As a hunter, I tell you this - all the stories about spending the night and living in the forest in winter are fairy tales or antics of extreme people, this is complete stupidity. Who wants to freeze - please, just try at least at minus 20 to spend the night in the taiga. One here told me that he would go to a bear with a knife - something similar, only with a bear there are more chances.
        1. t-12
          t-12 14 November 2020 22: 24 New
          +2
          A potbelly stove cannot be - a drone with a thermal imager will fly over and spot it. However, even without a potbelly stove it will detect (but a little more difficult).
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 14 November 2020 23: 13 New
            -1
            There already do not care about the thermal imager - the main thing is to keep warm. :)
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 15 November 2020 10: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          all the stories about spending the night and life in the forest in winter are fairy tales or antics of extreme people, this is complete stupidity. Who wants to freeze - please

          I can confirm that spending the night in the forest at -20 is a harsh extreme. During the service it happened. This is if without heating, without a good sleeping bag and good winter clothing. Several nights and sailed.
          If you have a tent and a potbelly stove, and at -30 is not scary. I had a chance to live like this for 3-4 weeks in the taiga in February.
  10. Azimuth
    Azimuth 14 November 2020 20: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    This is about the use of civilian cell phones when performing combat missions. Who takes them to the position of war criminals. Systems of the Leer-3 type can detect the exact location of the enemy by cell phones and other GSM devices. Naturally, the enemy also has similar ground and airborne systems.
    It depends on who is considered the enemy laughing
    If you build alphabetically:
    - Azerbaijanis have analogs of our systems and original Belarusian and Ukrainian production;
    - Armenians have ours and their own developments (articles somehow caught my eye);
    - the Turks have their own.
    Judging by the news, if necessary, both Azerbaijanis and Armenians also attract funds that are in service with the special services.
  11. cdmax
    cdmax 14 November 2020 21: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Tol100v
    Why advertise the means used? Or has the article (CC) disappeared?

    And for how long are the actions of the peacekeepers secret military operations? Moreover, when information is taken from open sources of the RF Ministry of Defense
  12. Prahlad
    Prahlad 14 November 2020 21: 42 New
    -2
    These electronic warfare systems showed themselves poorly, the video was how the newest "repellent" was destroyed. There is no trust in this type of weapon
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 14 November 2020 22: 43 New
      -3
      Quote: Prahlad
      These electronic warfare systems showed themselves poorly, the video was how the newest "repellent" was destroyed. There is no trust in this type of weapon


      By the way, it is so ...
      The reppeller was prohibitively, purely in New Russian, with a shout advertised by our military-industrial complex.
      'Repellent' - unparalleled in the world!
      The Russian army will receive a unique mobile complex "Repellent", developed by the Scientific and Technical Center for Electronic Warfare (STC REB). It will independently detect and neutralize reconnaissance drones, suppressing their control channels with powerful barrage or directional interference, and also disable control points, leaving them without navigation and telemetry. At the same time, the unique electronic warfare system covers not only stationary objects (military bases, airfields, military equipment parks), but also troops on the battlefield.
      Thanks to a unique supersensitive electronic reconnaissance station, the "Repellent" is capable of detecting miniature aerial targets by their control signals at a distance of more than 35 km.
      It passed the entire cycle of necessary tests, including under the auspices of the Ministry of Defense, and fully confirmed the characteristics laid down at the development stage, '' said Alexander Sarkisyan, Director General of the Scientific and Technical Center for Electronic Warfare


      And you have to ...
      Not only could not suppress anything, but he himself was destroyed precisely by the drone ...

      For such a craft, designers should be imprisoned for waste and embezzlement and fraud.
      20 years with confiscation ...
      1. Disant
        Disant 16 November 2020 22: 36 New
        0
        I only saw in the video that a KAMAZ was hit by a repellent.
        what makes you think that he was hit by a drone?
        https://youtu.be/JJ7zhoNIelI?t=31
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 16 November 2020 22: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Disant
          I only saw in the video that a KAMAZ was hit by a repellent.
          what makes you think that he was hit by a drone?
          https://youtu.be/JJ7zhoNIelI?t=31


          Who killed Reppelent?

          If 99% of targets were destroyed by drones. or directed from drones ...

          Either destroyed by him, or with his help ...
          A drone - from which the Repellent was supposed to protect it for 30-35 km.



          There are no other options.

          Or do you think that Wang's grandmother did not aim the shell at Reppelent from her bell tower.

          In this case, you are just a dumb troll.
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 15 November 2020 10: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Prahlad
      These electronic warfare proved poorly, the video was how the newest "repellent" was destroyed

      There is no such thing as an absolutely invulnerable weapon. As well as absolutely irresistible.
  13. SovAr238A
    SovAr238A 14 November 2020 22: 37 New
    -3
    Quote: Graz
    SovAr238A
    it is necessary to take the heads of the diasporas in Russia hostage in case of an exacerbation, and it is better to raze one city to the ground, figuratively speaking, than then everyone will wipe their feet about us, and in a situation with our non-reaction to the shooting down of our helicopter, we are very close to this, our soldier must to have an official order to shoot immediately to kill in the event of a threat to peacekeepers, and the missile forces must immediately strike at targets disassembled in advance, of course, it makes little sense to destroy cities, but oil and gas 100%, in the trash and so that the poor Azerbaijanis for decades to come, this The best option is to make Armenians beggars and Azeris beggars, so that they cannot scrape together for weapons and cannot fight.


    Stop fantasizing.
    For the fact that we take someone hostage, some of ours will be taken hostage.
    Or do you think that this was not the case in the late 90s and early 2000s?
    It happened more than once.
    It didn't help anyone or anything.

    The hostages don't work at all.


    Oil and gas are restored in 2-4 months.
    Think of Kuwait and Iraq.
    Where there were no ongoing clashes, the entire infrastructure was restored in 2-3 months.
  14. svoit
    svoit 14 November 2020 22: 52 New
    0
    Quote: SovAr238A
    Or do you think that this was not the case in the late 90s and early 2000s?
    It happened more than once.

    That they would take our people into this, I will believe, but what would their heads of the diasporas - have not heard something
  15. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 14 November 2020 23: 00 New
    +1
    detect phones, tablets, etc.
    I liked this phrase the most. And so, for fun, the scouts in the article coded everything.) It would be better not to write! (due to 30 years)
  16. certero
    certero 14 November 2020 23: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: Observer2014
    In general, the best protection for our peacekeepers is the Armenian and Azerbaijani diasporas in Russia.

    Bosh what.
    Are these diasporas held hostage?
    The best defense of peacekeepers is the understanding of opponents that in case of provocation they will receive a powerful response. As in Georgia.
    Military people always operate with opportunities, not good intentions.
  17. Terenin
    Terenin 14 November 2020 23: 45 New
    +4
    Quote: Alesi13
    Has Azerbaijan lost something?

    That is, Azerbaijan has not lost anything?
  18. johnatan.kowalski
    johnatan.kowalski 15 November 2020 02: 39 New
    -6
    Buy bayraktars, they will again use half-dead half-Chinese
  19. Karpo
    Karpo 15 November 2020 08: 05 New
    -1
    Well, this is not surprising! Our military group will be stuffed with the latest developments, otherwise it’s not possible ... UAVs showed themselves in all their glory, so we will check our electronic warfare, etc.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 15 November 2020 09: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: Karpo
      Well, this is not surprising! Our military group will be stuffed with the latest developments, otherwise it’s not possible ... UAVs showed themselves in all their glory, so we will check our electronic warfare, etc.

      And there is.
      Welcome hi
      1. Karpo
        Karpo 15 November 2020 10: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        And there is.
        Welcome

        And where to go Gennady! We are under pressure in Russia and we will now extinguish electronic warfare and other things .. Drones flew and that's enough!
        The Iranians have already indicated the exact targets and they made good broads on their borders .. soldier
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 15 November 2020 10: 31 New
          +6
          Quote: Karpo
          Quote: Terenin
          And there is.
          Welcome

          And where to go Gennady! We are under pressure in Russia and we will now extinguish electronic warfare and other things .. Drones flew and that's enough!
          The Iranians have already indicated the exact targets and they made good broads on their borders .. soldier

          I also think either to introduce a full-fledged, in military equipment, grouping (peacekeepers ...) or not to get involved at all.
          1. Karpo
            Karpo 15 November 2020 10: 49 New
            -1
            Quote: Terenin
            I also think either to introduce a full-fledged, in military equipment, grouping (peacekeepers ...) or not to get involved at all.

            Well, now in Armenia (allegedly Pashinyanov and K) they will not blackmail us like "Russia out" (for five years we have been there at the international level) And provocations from Azerbaijan will not be so arrogant (we are very angry at them.)
            So we are working on full and complete equipment, which is only available .. The region must be under complete control in all respects. Iran will help us too!
            Well, Gennady is for OUR guys there, standing on the outskirts, as in Syria! drinks
            So that without great losses, they extinguish there all the ragamuffin who fled to a bloody showdown anti-Russian. drinks soldier The devils will not pass! negative
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 15 November 2020 10: 53 New
              +6
              Quote: Karpo
              So that without great losses, they extinguish there all the ragamuffin who fled to a bloody showdown anti-Russian. The devils will not pass!

              That's right! drinks
              1. Karpo
                Karpo 15 November 2020 12: 09 New
                0
                Quote: Terenin
                That's right!

                Well, for the Airborne Forces! drinks They will put things in order there .. Evil to eerie! soldier
  20. mongol9999
    mongol9999 15 November 2020 11: 24 New
    0
    I consider it correct to make a decision to convey dissatisfaction with certain actions by Armenia or Azerbaijan through persistent influence on the diasporas of these countries in Russia. You can influence in different ways. The main thing is to get through to the liver.
  21. Bronekot
    Bronekot 15 November 2020 12: 26 New
    0
    And he does not help from the UAV
  22. Old26
    Old26 15 November 2020 14: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Welldone
    And I'm worried about the lack of air defense systems. A large military grouping from the air is openly covered with NOTHING.

    According to the state, the peacekeeping brigade has an anti-aircraft missile division with a range of air defense systems. Previously, these were Strela-10, Wasps and Tunguska. Now - HZ. And plus MANPADS by state ...

    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
    Who wants to freeze - please, just try at least at minus 20 to spend the night in the taiga.

    Lord, Sergey! What a taiga !!! About 20 years ago We were returning from a short-term business trip from another city. It was necessary to deliver the goods, incl. and a related organization. About 10 kilometers from the city we got stuck, something with the engine. The car is a "tablet", or rather "auto club" (that is, the cabin is separate, the closed body is separate). While the driver was busy, the kung got cold. On the street it was somewhere minus 10-15 plus the wind. When we got to our colleagues, where the unloading was supposed to be, we got just to the table (on the eve of the New Year), so our hands were so tight that they could hardly hold the glass. And you say taiga. And they were dressed like not in summer, and not taiga, but steppe, but this did not make it easier.
    Therefore, partisan actions, and in the absence of the local population, loyal to you, and in the winter and in the mountains (overnight stays) are fairy tales.
    As an experienced tourist I say this laughing
  23. pba50
    pba50 15 November 2020 16: 16 New
    0
    but before it was necessary and not after the war.
  24. nakhtigalsif
    nakhtigalsif 15 November 2020 16: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Observer2014
    What kind of shock drones are there and where to send there reconnaissance-art system bundles for the eyes is enough. Distances tea is not half the globe. In general, the best protection of our peacekeepers is the Armenian and Azerbaijani diasporas in Russia. None of the parties to the conflict has any advantage over Russia. Everyone understands this very well. Their entire territory is being fired upon by Russian other more efficient systems. Also, the Caspian flotilla will turn any not smart into hell. So everything that is needed to defend the peacekeepers is there.

    ... More hats are needed ... Each soldier's bunk, so that there are many of them. More hats, faster victory! ..
    In the Ministry of Defense, fools sit, tank planes rivet, and there are few hats ... wassat
  25. Armen Sologyan
    Armen Sologyan 16 November 2020 12: 23 New
    0
    From the first day there would be no victims.
  26. Grandfather_2
    Grandfather_2 16 November 2020 20: 09 New
    0
    How much courtesy. A little sick.