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The United States worried about the possible use of Russian "Poseidons" during the war

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The United States worried about the possible use of Russian "Poseidons" during the war

The United States is concerned about Russia's development of Poseidon Unmanned Submersibles. As the US Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation Christopher Ford said, Washington doubts that the use of Poseidons during a military conflict will comply with international law.


Speaking at an online seminar hosted by the American Bar Association, Ford said the US "has reason to be apprehensive" about Russia's nuclear deterrence policy. The US doubts that the Russian nuclear weapon intended for defense only.

Of course, Russia claims that its doctrine is in line with international law, that its nuclear weapons are intended only for defense and deterrence and will only be used as a last resort. Hopefully it is

- he added.

Another development that arouses US concerns are the Poseidon unmanned underwater vehicles with a nuclear power plant and a nuclear warhead. According to Ford, the use of such devices does not comply with international law.

They are proposed to be equipped with nuclear warheads with a capacity of several megatons and launched into the ocean during a military conflict in order to unleash a radioactive tsunami on the coastal cities of the United States. Such a concept raises serious questions as to whether it can be applied in accordance with international legal norms and principles.

- he said.

Also, according to Ford, the United States is alarmed by Russia's statement that Moscow can respond with the use of nuclear weapons to any ballistic missile aimed at its territory, regardless of which charge is installed on it and regardless of where it is aimed.

Earlier, the US has already called on Russia to abandon its "terrible weapon." Billingsley, the US president's special envoy for arms control, said the development of Poseidon and the Burevestnik cruise missile is "a waste of time" since START "will ban them anyway."
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 14 November 2020 09: 30
    58
    Well, I honestly doubt that this International Law exists ... and I am also worried!
    Gathered "war" with Russia to arrange, then it is better to really worry, but if not, then there is nothing to worry about.
    1. Eragon
      Eragon 14 November 2020 09: 51
      35
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Well, I honestly doubt that this International Law exists ... and I am also worried!

      The power of law is effective when it is secured by the law of power! I don’t remember who said it, but it’s very correct.
      They are proposed to be equipped with nuclear warheads with a capacity of several megatons and launched into the ocean during a military conflict in order to unleash a radioactive tsunami on the coastal cities of the United States. Such a concept raises serious questions as to whether it can be applied in accordance with international legal norms and principles.

      No, uncle, you will destroy us, and we will die in peace? The GDP clearly stated that there will be no planet without Russia. I’ll add, but without North America it’s easy.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 14 November 2020 09: 57
        13
        Quote: Eragon

        No, uncle, you will destroy us, and we will die in peace? The GDP clearly stated that there will be no planet without Russia. I'll add on my own, but without North America, it's easy

        And I remember Pan Volodaevsky - a master of fencing, distinguished by his small stature ... "If people are not afraid of you, they will laugh at you ..." That grin slipped from the striped snouts ...
        1. Machito
          Machito 14 November 2020 10: 11
          40
          The US may not be worried about the potential use of Poseidon. In the event of a nuclear war, the Poseidons will definitely be used, and the entire US coast and two-thirds of the population will be flushed into the ocean, like into a toilet bowl. The rest will be covered with ash by Yellowstone. There is nothing to worry about: the United States will be erased from the map. As far as "international law" is concerned, Russian weapons operate within the Russian legal framework.
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 14 November 2020 11: 32
            +8
            Shhh, you will call the kraken like that ... that is, Timokhin and he will start his hurdy-gurdy again about what a stupid idea this is!
            1. krot
              krot 14 November 2020 13: 44
              12
              Washington doubts that the use of "Poseidons" during a military conflict will comply with international law

              They made me laugh. In the United States, all killings by their country are in accordance with international law! What's inside the US, what's outside of it ..
              I think we are moving in the right direction with the "Poseidons" and in which case, instead of America, there will be a strait named after Stalin! ))))
            2. Machito
              Machito 14 November 2020 14: 24
              0
              Timokhin has his own view of the development of the fleet, and I must say, he has many sound ideas. However, Sakharov's idea of ​​megatsunami on the US coast is a good horror story for ordinary people, and for the Pentagon, as well as a nuclear strike on Yellowstone. Perhaps the possibility of Russia inflicting unacceptable damage for the United States with small forces (20 Poseidons and 10 missiles for an American supervolcano) will cool many hotheads overseas who dream of a preemptive nuclear strike on the Russian Federation.
          2. Hermit21
            Hermit21 14 November 2020 21: 32
            0
            Rather, it is a means of combating AUG or SSBN and their bases within the UNV
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 14 November 2020 11: 39
        +7
        Sow the Don - reap the Ocean of the Tsunami!
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 14 November 2020 09: 53
      +8
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Gathered "war" with Russia to arrange, then it's better

      immediately surrender, smoke the wheelhouse and bury your tomogavki. Do you remember Hitler?
    3. smart ass
      smart ass 14 November 2020 10: 02
      40
      Ahaha international law))))) tell it to Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq. A pack of wolves is afraid only of a hunter with a shotgun))
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 14 November 2020 10: 10
        15
        Quote: Clever man
        Ahaha international law))))) tell it to Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq. A pack of wolves is afraid only of a hunter with a shotgun))

        Exactly ! You, gentlemen from the States, print your concern in Japanese newspapers! They will agree with you!
    4. Borik
      Borik 14 November 2020 10: 10
      19
      Yes, even if you launch a simple rocket into the territory of another country, you've already violated international law. And for amers to release fifty of these missiles or bombing a country is like blowing your nose. How to threaten someone with low-power nuclear charges is like promising to donate a couple of hundred million for charity. And if someone warns them that if they decide to unleash such an innocent little war, then immediately receive from the bottom of their hearts. So let them first think for themselves, is it worth it to violate this international law, which they put at nothing, since they have invented their own stars and stripes for themselves.
    5. common man
      common man 14 November 2020 10: 29
      12
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Well, I honestly doubt that this International Law exists ..

      But why? International law is the right of the United States to do whatever it pleases. And it exists. At least THEY think so.
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 November 2020 11: 31
      13
      Washington doubts that the use of "Poseidons" during a military conflict will comply with international law.

      So I think their brains have dried up there, or only through every second? What are the international rights during the war?
      Let them talk about rights, in the context of the bombings of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the burning of Vietnam with napalm, the financing of color revolutions, the destruction of more than 2 million people in Iraq, the bombing of Mosul, etc. ... except for Trump, all US presidents unleashed wars and something in Washington did not stink about human rights.
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 14 November 2020 12: 57
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        Let them talk about rights, in the context of the bombings of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the burning of Vietnam with napalm, the financing of color revolutions, the destruction of more than 2 million people in Iraq, the bombing of Mosul, etc. ... except for Trump, all US presidents unleashed wars and something in Washington did not stink about human rights.

        The essence of Anglo-Saxon politics is expressed in the famous phrase

        Therefore, the only way to maintain normal relations with them is not to give them the slightest reason to think that they were able to muzzle you.
    7. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 14 November 2020 13: 20
      +7
      After HIROSHIMA NAGASAKI, you don't even have to listen to them ... whoever speaks.
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 November 2020 09: 32
    +6
    Do not worry striped, everything will happen very quickly, you will not have time to get scared.
  3. impostor
    impostor 14 November 2020 09: 32
    12
    They should not confuse international law with American
  4. Olgovich
    Olgovich 14 November 2020 09: 33
    32
    Such a concept raises serious questions as to whether it can be applied in accordance with international legal norms and principles.

    Are there international norms for the use of nuclear weapons? belay

    No more than 1 mgt per city? Or how?
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 14 November 2020 10: 04
      +6
      Quote: Olgovich
      Such a concept raises serious questions as to whether it can be applied in accordance with international legal norms and principles.

      Are there international norms for the use of nuclear weapons? belay

      No more than 1 mgt per city? Or how?


      American cities are not allowed. For all the rest - you can.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 14 November 2020 10: 11
        +5
        They call it “but what for us?” After all, American missiles and bombs bring democracy. hi
        "the whole world" knows wink
    2. Gato
      Gato 14 November 2020 10: 07
      +6
      Or how?

      Will they file a lawsuit? wassat
      The defendant will have to drop 1 mt, as required by law, and another 1 for moral damage.
    3. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 14 November 2020 10: 33
      +4
      And you shouldn't have doubted Olgovich! Herosima, Nagosaki, white phosphorus in Belgrade - all within the framework of mattress for foreign concepts wassat wassat wassat
    4. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 14 November 2020 14: 04
      +4
      "The development, causing concern to the United States, are the Poseidon unmanned underwater vehicles with a nuclear power plant and a nuclear warhead. According to Ford, the use of such devices does not comply with international law." crying what they are boiling about recourse .. Poseidon and Vanguard are all Russian-Putin cartoons. Bad quality cartoons laughing In their own words! And here many proved the uselessness of Poseidon! It turns out to be USEFUL!
  5. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 14 November 2020 09: 35
    +7
    what international law can the Yankees talk about, they themselves trampled everything
    1. Poetry
      Poetry 14 November 2020 12: 57
      +2
      Let them send lawyers. If they survive.
  6. Alexander X
    Alexander X 14 November 2020 09: 40
    13
    Now let the striped ones express their concern ... Not all our Foreign Ministry can do this ...
    The best confirmation of the reality of "cartoons" is precisely the dissatisfaction of the striped ... IMHO ...
  7. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 14 November 2020 09: 40
    12
    The United States is alarmed by Russia's statement that Moscow can respond with the use of nuclear weapons to any ballistic missile aimed at its territory,

    Those. I really want to shoot across the territory of Russia, but I really don't want to get an answer.
    Of course, retaliating against America is clearly against international law.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 November 2020 11: 15
      +9
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Those. I really want to shoot across the territory of Russia, but I really don't want to get an answer.

      Naturally! And yet they just start to get feverish from the "ghostly" Poseidons, because ...
      Washington doubts that the use of Poseidons during a military conflict will comply with international law.

      Because American international law is when I feel good, but there is no grass. So they whined: "Why do we need it?"
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 14 November 2020 13: 10
        +5
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Because American international law is when I feel good, but there is no grass. So they whined: "Why do we need it?"

        "Gentlemen play by the rules while they win. When gentlemen start to lose, they change the rules."
  8. Cron
    Cron 14 November 2020 09: 40
    10
    International law is the US right to destroy any country with impunity
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 November 2020 11: 33
      +2
      Quote: Cron
      International law is the US right to destroy any country with impunity

      And many countries are armed and can fight back. What kind of Washington dumbbell would like this?
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 14 November 2020 13: 41
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        And many countries are armed and can fight back.

        And if the countries unite in a particular case and fight back - which one
        Quote: NEXUS
        WASHINGTON MUTO WILL LIKE THIS?

        yes
  9. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 14 November 2020 09: 41
    +6
    the US has "reason to be apprehensive" about Russia's nuclear deterrence policy. In the USA they doubt

    Containment is what it is.
    Should restrain from the desire to fight.
  10. YOUR
    YOUR 14 November 2020 09: 45
    +1
    It is strange that they were concerned.
    Their usual state - and we are for what
  11. kot423
    kot423 14 November 2020 09: 48
    +9
    Washington doubts that the use of Poseidons during a military conflict will comply with international law.

    In the war, such rights are denounced (WWII, or even better to remind mattresses about napalm in Vietnam, white phosphorus, depleted uranium in Yugoslavia, etc.)
    Conclusion - let them get hysterical and shake on, this is good.
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 November 2020 09: 52
    10
    Washington doubts that the use of Poseidons during a military conflict will comply with international law.
    So I had to remember about the existence of international law. Does delivering a nuclear strike against Russia, and even a preventive one, fit into this right? Cynicism is off the charts.
  13. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 14 November 2020 09: 55
    +8
    Such a concept raises serious questions as to whether it can be applied in accordance with international legal norms and principles.
    laughing and the military conflict against Russia, therefore, will comply with international legal norms and principles? rzhach
  14. sleeve
    sleeve 14 November 2020 09: 56
    +9
    Yes, there is a subject for concern. This fool does not care that under aug, that in the harbor of New York "to be realized" ...
  15. sleeve
    sleeve 14 November 2020 09: 58
    +1
    If voynushka, then MP is more like a "machine gun" than anything else.
  16. faterdom
    faterdom 14 November 2020 10: 00
    +2
    I am failing ... Slavik, I'm getting a point ...
    Can you try not to create conflicts?
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 14 November 2020 13: 17
      +1
      Quote: faterdom
      Can you try not to create conflicts?

      This is impossible for them. Nice quote to dot the i:

      “We have 50 percent of the world's wealth, but only 6,3 percent of the population ... In this situation, we inevitably turn into an object of envy and indignation. Our true task in the coming period is to develop a system of relations that will allow us to maintain this inequality ... For this we will have to part with all sentimentality and fantasies; our attention everywhere should be focused on our immediate national tasks ... We need to stop talking about vague and ... unrealistic goals, such as human rights, improving living standards, democratization. The day is not far off when we will have to resort to brute force. The less ideological slogans hinder us at such a moment, the better. "
      Nobel laureate Noam Chomsky
      book "How the World Works"
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 14 November 2020 10: 12
    +5
    What is not a question, then all compliance with the norms of international law. When did the norms of international law interest the Americans? When they bombed Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, invaded Afghanistan, or these norms began to interest when their country could be directly affected.
    Two-faced bastards
  18. maiman61
    maiman61 14 November 2020 10: 16
    +2
    International law excludes American law!
  19. storm
    storm 14 November 2020 10: 17
    +5
    The one who is stronger and the RIGHTS, here is the only rule that worked and is valid ...
    Start a war, get POSITION OF POSEIDON on both coasts ...
  20. zxc15682
    zxc15682 14 November 2020 10: 18
    -6
    There will be infection, but there will be no tsunami. The whole point is that the charge will explode after the end of the war.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 November 2020 10: 22
    12
    Always jarred on the phrase "Civilized countries" or "Civilized world" ... these are those countries that are essentially the last creatures, had colonies, massacred the local population.
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 November 2020 10: 24
    +7
    Shoot rockets.

    Marry Rockefeller to Buzovaya, and Rothschild to Sobchak.

    Shut off the gas.

    Hire Mongolian cavalry and take Lisbon.

    Send ten battle mages of at least master level.

    Suddenly crash the dollar.

    Stop the Gulf Stream.

    Shut off oil.

    Make a revolution in Texas.

    Make the ruble the world currency.

    Collapse the euro.

    Call Grandfather Frost.

    Sued them in the Basmanny Court.

    To deprive the Olympics.

    Close the straits.

    Set the Ukrainians and Moldovans against them.

    Collapse oil prices.

    Join the Bilderberg Club.

    Become the head of the WTO.

    Scold them.

    Impose sanctions and prohibit visiting the mausoleum.

    Bribe them.

    Bribe China.

    Get offended.

      laughing
    1. dsdelta
      dsdelta 14 November 2020 11: 06
      +4
      Especially about Buzova liked it. ))
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 14 November 2020 11: 18
      -1
      Dear!
      Take a sedative and stop raving ... lol
      Oh! Yes, you have a fever! belay
    3. dzvero
      dzvero 14 November 2020 12: 19
      +1
      Shame on you smile Copy it as a carbon copy, change it slightly and issue it as an original guide to the spread of the enemy smile There are no apologists for copyright protection ... smile
    4. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 November 2020 13: 44
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Marry Rockefeller to Buzovaya, and Rothschild to Sobchak.

      Quote: dsdelta
      Especially about Buzova liked it. ))

      Aha! ... wassat
      Divorce Sobchak and marry them with Buzova, and Rockefeller with Rothschild ...
  23. Gate68
    Gate68 14 November 2020 10: 46
    +1
    Insanity grows stronger
  24. KreAtiF
    KreAtiF 14 November 2020 10: 46
    +7
    A strange general, such weapons will ban START 3, but who will sign it in this case, or did they come up with it themselves, signed it themselves, and then they will roll a barrel to Russia?
  25. Charik
    Charik 14 November 2020 10: 56
    +1
    during a military conflict will comply with the norms of international law. - already funny
  26. Charik
    Charik 14 November 2020 10: 59
    +1
    In the United States, they doubt that Russian nuclear weapons are intended only for defense. -Ah-ah - !!! of the West, they are not rightfully fighting internationally
  27. dsdelta
    dsdelta 14 November 2020 11: 05
    +6
    No matter how funny. All weapons that the United States lacks violate international law. And when they have similar ones, they will immediately stop violating. )
  28. bar
    bar 14 November 2020 11: 08
    +4
    Washington doubts that the use of Poseidons during a military conflict will comply with international law.

    laughing laughing
    Are they serious? About "international legal norms" in a nuclear war?
  29. Yuri Rastegaev
    Yuri Rastegaev 14 November 2020 11: 19
    +3
    Who would talk about international law, but not "cowboys". Their hands are covered in blood up to the elbows and scammed under all international treaties
  30. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 November 2020 11: 33
    +1
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Dear!
    Take a sedative and stop raving ... lol
    Oh! Yes, you have a fever! belay


    castor oil to write laughing
  31. blackcat
    blackcat 14 November 2020 11: 44
    0
    And I am concerned about their concern, because as soon as they have nothing to worry about, they will unleash a nuclear war.
  32. codetalker
    codetalker 14 November 2020 11: 59
    +1
    It seemed to me that the war of one state with another no longer fits into international law ...
  33. K-50
    K-50 14 November 2020 12: 02
    0
    The United States is concerned about Russia's development of the Poseidon Unmanned Submersibles.

    As you lose the "shores in your head", so we "Poseidon" will help you lose them in reality! fellow yes lol
  34. iouris
    iouris 14 November 2020 12: 03
    0
    All agreements have been cleared. It is necessary to teach "partners" to live "according to the rules", according to their own. Otherwise, their "red arrows" have long crossed our "red lines". Stalin launched a war with Finland to move the border away from Leningrad, in much better conditions than today.
  35. evgen1221
    evgen1221 14 November 2020 12: 24
    +1
    Well, these are always judged by themselves. That is, having such a weapon themselves, for them there would be no morally legal questions about the use of the first even in response. And the first rather.
  36. musorg
    musorg 14 November 2020 12: 28
    +2
    Are they delusional? In time of war, to comply with the law? And what does the war itself correspond to?
  37. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 14 November 2020 12: 43
    -1
    Are there any principles for the use of nuclear weapons to comply with them? didn’t hear something ..
  38. comradChe
    comradChe 14 November 2020 12: 45
    0
    There will be no war. One field of berries. They will agree on how to lie in the basket.
  39. Egor53
    Egor53 14 November 2020 12: 50
    -2
    "According to Ford, the use of such devices does not comply with international law."
    Comrade Ford is absolutely crazy! How can a nuclear bombing of any country be consistent with "international law"?
    We are scared of Poseidons as hell, because the use of these torpedoes can destroy 1/3 of the US population at one time. And the United States will never have protection from Poseidons.
  40. pipetro
    pipetro 14 November 2020 12: 56
    +2
    Oh, the United States remembered about international legal norms and principles. How long?
  41. mikstepanenko
    mikstepanenko 14 November 2020 13: 05
    +4
    Logically - these savages despicably fired at our plane, which peacefully bombed their city.
  42. Serg 122
    Serg 122 14 November 2020 13: 28
    +1
    So these are "cartoons" all, why be afraid of them ?! Strange people - at first they laugh at us, they say we scare them with "cartoons", and then they start shaking from fear and declare all sorts of sanctions ...
  43. U-58
    U-58 14 November 2020 13: 37
    +1
    The author of such statements is simply making a political career.
    And it's a no brainer that the results of the use of such weapons will exclude the existence of the concept of "law" as such
  44. spectr
    spectr 14 November 2020 13: 42
    0
    As the US Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation Christopher Ford said, Washington doubts that the use of Poseidons during a military conflict will comply with international law.

    It turns out that the military conflict itself can comply with the norms of international law, if certain types of weapons are not used, i.e. standards are being developed (or developed), on the basis of which one state by force can absorb the second state.
    The world is changing fun. And it seems that he is getting closer to the third world war.
  45. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 14 November 2020 13: 48
    -1
    Against the modern fascist West, all means are good as against fascist Germany, then they did not think about means and now they do not need to, and biological and chemical and nuclear weapons against them the more the better.
  46. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 14 November 2020 14: 59
    0
    Let them themselves end the biological war against humanity with deadly viruses that they are developing in their 200 biological laboratories around the world and are already being godlessly and inhumanely using, including against the people of Russia.
  47. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 14 November 2020 16: 58
    0
    Ford said the US "has reason to be apprehensive" about Russia's nuclear deterrence policy.

    Highlikely in all its glory!
  48. ZAV69
    ZAV69 14 November 2020 17: 38
    +1
    Something tells me that Mr. Ford should be chased for incompetence. If it comes to special ammunition, then you can forget about legal norms. Doesn't he understand this?
  49. nod739
    nod739 14 November 2020 19: 45
    0
    If there is a war with the use of nuclear weapons, the concept of international law will disappear as such.
    We are peaceful people, but our armored president stands .. You know where ...
  50. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 14 November 2020 19: 56
    0
    Compliant. It's okay. You attacked and got hit on the head. This applies to countries such as the USA, Japan, Turkey, China, Norway and England. Let's arrange a big badabum for you ...