Helicopters transferred to Karabakh began to cover the columns of peacekeepers

Russian helicopters Mi-8 and Mi-24, deployed to Nagorno-Karabakh, provided cover for the columns of peacekeepers marching to the deployment sites. This is reported by the Ministry of Defense.

Eight Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters, deployed to the Yerevan airfield by An-124 "Ruslan" aircraft, were prepared by the engineering and technical staff, after which they flew to the new deployment sites and started flying as part of a peacekeeping mission. They exercise control over the ceasefire regime, as well as escort the convoys with material and technical property and personnel.

The pilots of the helicopter squadron completed the tasks of covering and escorting the columns of peacekeeping forces marching along the routes from the Erebuni airfield to the settlements of Goris and Stepanakert

- said in a statement.

Earlier, Shoigu reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin that more than 1,1 thousand servicemen and 168 pieces of equipment were transferred to Nagorno-Karabakh in three days by VTA VKS aircraft. The crews of military transport Il-76 and An-124 made 73 flights.

In total, the peacekeeping mission will involve 1960 servicemen of the 15th separate motorized rifle brigade (peacekeeping) of the Central Military District, 90 BTR-82A armored personnel carriers, 380 vehicles and special equipment, attack and military transport helicopters, Drones. Peacekeeping battalions will be deployed in Stepanakert ("South" zone) and Mardakert ("North" zone). The command of the group will be located in Stepanakert.

Comments

[passerby]

Will you not have to accept again an apology from Azerbaijan for the killed pilots? In war, like in war, right?

[BDRM 667]

Quote: t00r

И more than once, judging by our federal media, the role of the Russian peacekeepers is to become a sacred victim in order to unleash another war. Yes, and judging by the news, they are introducing already undocumented equipment, the BMP-2 is being introduced.

So we are waiting for a new war ...

I did not notice such a trend in our media.

If individuals, to put it bluntly, are shameless or not very smart, and declare the essence of the mission in this way, presenting peacekeepers as "sacred sacrifices", then these are real units of individuals.

Perhaps you drew an analogy with the situation in North Ossetia, but even there, what is called "War of 08.08.08" was essentially not a war, in the understanding of Russia's actions, but a local operation to force the aggressor to peace and restore the status of a peacekeeping mission.

Formally, after the downed Mi, Russia could already start an operation against the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan, but showed restraint,

So why should we still look for a pretext for war, if we already had one, but we decided not to use it?

Think before declaring: - "So we are waiting for a new war ..."

[t00r]

Quote: BDRM 667

I did not notice such a trend in our media.

Sheinin Soloviev ... they are actually announcing a new war in a typically isthyroid form.

Quote: BDRM 667

Formally, after the downed Mi, Russia could already start an operation against the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, but showed restraint

could but not in those conditions when COVID and mortality records with 3 fronts Ukraine Libya Syria.

The map above the peacekeeping operation, pay attention Aghdam is included in the zone of the peacekeeping operation, how can it enter it if, according to the agreement signed by Putin, it must be deoccupied and returned to Azerbaijan by the 20th.

this is a map from the RF Ministry of Defense and judging by it, it has already become clear that the treaty will not be respected from the word at all. Even the fact that 1960 people in the MC speaks about this, the example of Kosovo suggests that KFOR at the initial stages drove 50 thousand people and this is not surprising, because they must solve both the police functions and the demining of infrastructure construction territories at least for themselves and further down the list.

and the very nomenclature of technology that is introduced into the mission zone suggests that Russia will not fulfill its obligations with such a number, it is unrealistic to do it from the word at all.

so the conflict itself is inevitable.

[Archivist Vasya]

Just don't drag this covid into place and out of place ... Listen to TV less and this nonsense about records. Just ordinary pneumonia, nothing more. I hope you take off your mask at least in the shower, and do not sleep with gloves?

[Ros 56]

How tired you are, the grandmothers are hilarious, just to croak like crows.

[bayard]

Bul-Bul Ogly has already received a stick from his president for his rudeness. AND :

Quote: bystander

Then again, won't you have to accept an apology from Azerbaijan for the killed pilots?

What did you mean by that?
Leave our group without air cover, even on the march?
Do not forget that Azerbaijan is not Turkey. And not Syria - not far away - bordering through Dagestan.
Or, if the thugs in the networks rejoice at the downed Mi-24, then the Azerbaijani leadership shares their enthusiasm?
Ready to shoot down again, too?
Or to cover up the "inappropriate initiative" of your servicemen?
When our helicopter fell and two of our officers died ... AFTER A FEW HOURS, all Russia's demands for a ceasefire, the conclusion of an agreement and the entry of our troops into Karabakh WERE ACCEPTED in the Russian edition WITHOUT AMENDMENTS or ADDITIONS. And after a couple of hours, Russian planes were already transferring paratroopers.
And if they hadn't signed it, they could fly ALL OTHER AIRCRAFT!
They will fly in if suddenly something goes wrong again.
Or the fact that Russia IMMEDIATELY after the conclusion of the agreement and the ceasefire, the transfer of our group and the deployment of its posts and in the field, raised the issue of INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS in Azerbaijan ... but not just once and modestly / unobtrusively, but LOUD AND HARD ...
There should be no terrorists in the Caucasus!
They just DO NOT HAVE a RIGHT to be there.
It was Russia that did not intend to fight for the Armenians in the captured Karabakh. But for the shed blood of their military ... OFFICERS ...
At the hands of TERRORISTS !!!?

... I’m thinking, can Ramzan and his eagles be entrusted with the fight against these terrorists?
Together with VKS?
... Unless, of course, a similar trick happens ONCE AGAIN? !!!
If terrorists remain in Azerbaijan ...?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: bayard

if the thugs in the networks rejoice at the downed Mi-24, then the Azerbaijani leadership shares their delight?
Ready to shoot down again, too?

Of course it is divided and ready.
To release a verbal order to shoot down, and then blame everything on thugs on the ground - this is a classic of the genre.
Pathological, at the genetic level, Russophobes live in Azerbaijan, and the government in this sense is in complete unity with the people.
But we are not going to incur unrequited losses - and in return "landed" mattresses on Sinai. And there will be more shootings - we will "land" some C-130 with soldiers somewhere in Iraq. In short, Biden will receive an asymmetric answer. Little will not seem.

[Jacket in stock]

But I wonder how much a flight hour of the Mi-24 costs and how much of a conventional "bayraktar"?

They oversee the ceasefire,

In my understanding, control should look like observation in 24 hours mode without interruptions in time and without breaks on the ground at each threatened area. Or am I misunderstanding something?

[Asad]

Probably they will find drones for control, drums are not needed there much!

[BDRM 667]

Quote: ASAD

drums are not needed there much!

Nevertheless, I would send there the recently entered service shock "Sirius".
They were already in the SAR, they were tested in a combat situation, at the same time the tactics of their use were being honed, and the work of ground services.
But those were tests in which training in a real environment went to a limited number of operators and service staff.
And if our Ministry of Defense has an intention to increase the fleet of such UAVs, then more personnel will be needed. It needs to be trained and trained.
They would have trained in NKR ...

Moreover, "Sirius" - reconnaissance and strike UAV.

[Asad]

So who is against !? If available, it is naturally necessary to use it on patrol!

[BDRM 667]

Quote: ASAD

of course you must apply to patrol!

This is what I meant when emphasizing his intelligence function.
And with regard to ammunition, whether to hang it or not, they will decide according to the situation ...

[jovanni]

Helicopters transferred to Karabakh began to cover the columns of peacekeepers

And is there someone covering our pilots, or are they just preparing to accept another apology, if that? ... After all, it’s a matter of a couple of hours to find out who fired, who ordered, ... And where are they?

[Asad]

Who can tell you what is the distance between the checkpoints?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: ASAD

what is the distance between checkpoints?

Yes, like a baa map with their location right here.

[Asad]

And how to calculate the distance on it?

[Runway]

Why do you need this? Post = MSV without one armor (they will be taken to the core - in failure or for wiring columns). PVD battalion - rear, failure (up to the company), security company (PVD / airfield), a group of blashnikov, air pilots (duty pair for bat = 4 boards)
The post will deploy mobile NP on the flanks and have a stationary one at the place of deployment.
The distance between posts is, let's say, within half an hour on wheels.

[Asad]

Thank you, as a civilian I didn't understand anything, but it was very interesting!

[Livonetc]

MSV motorized rifle platoon (only I don't understand what the platoon is, or should I mean the company?)
Armor in this case is an armored personnel carrier.
UAV group is a group equipped with drones.
NP observation post.
Bath. battalion
Half an hour on an armored personnel carrier is probably no more than 30 kilometers.
That's the distance between stationary posts.

[Asad]

Thank you for the clarification!

[Runway]

Platoon (there are 8 posts in the area of ​​responsibility of each battalion).
60 km / h on the armor on the hills - no, no. Cats can (9 lives). It seems that no more than 20 km along the control line.
In this case, the time of arrival of the "air" and the failure with the documentation group are important for the posts (if the post fires start somewhere or explosions).

[Cron]

And if in five years Azerbaijan asks the peacekeepers to leave, then what is the point of the Armenians staying there? Well, if only during this time you find yourself another place to stay. Or am I misunderstanding something?

[Svetlana]

Quote: Jacket in stock

But I wonder how much a flight hour of the Mi-24 costs and how much of a conventional "bayraktar"?

They oversee the ceasefire,

In my understanding, control should look like observation in 24 hours mode without interruptions in time and without breaks on the ground at each threatened area. Or am I misunderstanding something?

Yeah, you don't understand something.
..
The fact that THIS note says only about the Helicopters does not mean that there are no invisible Eagles in the air day and night. And yes, an hour of a UAV may be cheaper, but in terms of the power of weapons and psychological pressure on an infantryman, it is much weaker than a crocodile.
...
And if today, after the signing of the agreements, someone strikes the turntable, then a blow will be struck as in Syria. (I think so (c))

[Radius]

There is an UAV company in the 31st brigade.

[Al Asad]

And again, on the loading / unloading footage of not a single helicopter with MANPADS countermeasures
However, what am I talking about? Russia, however, is not fashionable for us to make conclusions)

[donavi49]

And also the Mi-24Pshki. Without a normal optical station. Without thermal imager. That is, the sense from such a patrol will be only during the day and then, at the level of visual detection with the eyes.

And in general, this input is quite controversial in terms of preparation. Peacekeepers are also PR, advertising of the first army in the world, so to speak, instilling strength and modernity. And here we see that the peacekeepers look and are armed like Armenians, they are much worse and poorer than Azeris and do not inspire at all.

Here is still the old-fashioned AK shabby, Soviet pouch. The same ushatanaya SVDshka. And one unloading for three.

Classic 2ki like the Armenians burned, without modernization, without teplakov. Well, who is on the hill, who is tired, who is in military uniform, this is a classic.

It seems that they did not really prepare. Or, unlike in Crimea, the PR component of the commission was not worked out at all.

[rocket757]

Who should be there? Spetsnaz GRU, or what?
Ordinary combat units, the task is just for them ... add a full set of military police.
How events will develop, then we'll see what decisions will be made.

[aszzz888]

rocket757 (Victor)
Yesterday, 10: 12

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Who should be there? Spetsnaz GRU, or what?
Ordinary combat units, the task is just for them ... add a full set of military police.
How events will develop, then we'll see what decisions will be made.

Respected! And YOU fell for the thrown in photos and material from donavi49? Well, what kind of MS RF is it? Take a look at the official materials and compare with those provided. This is a complete stuffing! Fake pure water. !!!

[rocket757]

What do the pictures have to do with it?
On TV show, officially declare who, why and why.
I expressed my opinion about what really is there, what is officially announced.
I'm not interested in the chatter around the bush, but there will be a lot of it.
What do you disagree with? Indicate, please.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Yes. There are practically no differences from the Armenian army. How this weapon showed itself is already known.

[Runway]

I am tormented by terrible doubts that in the photo there are “peacekeepers” (and not a BTG from base 102 that scattered posts on the route of the columns entering Karabakh).
Form No. 8 has not been canceled.
Photos of convoys of peacekeepers on the march - stocked armored personnel carriers-82 with signs "MS", Kamaziki, tiger cubs, "seagull". The military is pretty well packed.

[aszzz888]

WFP (Mikhail)
Yesterday, 10:52 am I am plagued by terrible doubts that in the photo there are “peacekeepers” (and not a BTG from base 102 that has scattered posts on the route of columns entering Karabakh).
Form No. 8 has not been canceled. laughing
Photos of convoys of peacekeepers on the march - stocked armored personnel carriers-82 with signs "MS", Kamaziki, tiger cubs, "seagull". The military is pretty well packed.

Your "doubts" are quite natural. This is - in the photo there is a certain donavi49, the most stuffing and deliberate distortion of facts in order to discredit both the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in NK and all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. In the photo, none of them has anything to do with the RF MS.

[Doctor]

And also the Mi-24Pshki. Without a normal optical station. Without thermal imager. That is, the sense from such a patrol will be only during the day and then, at the level of visual detection with the eyes.

And in general, this input is quite controversial in terms of preparation. Peacekeepers are also PR, advertising of the first army in the world, so to speak, instilling strength and modernity. And here we see that the peacekeepers look and are armed like Armenians, they are much worse and poorer than Azeris and do not inspire at all.

Here is still the old-fashioned AK shabby, Soviet pouch. The same ushatanaya SVDshka. And one unloading for three.

Classic 2ki like the Armenians burned, without modernization, without teplakov. Well, who is on the hill, who is tired, who is in military uniform, this is a classic.

.

This is the current REALITY of our army.
Well at least it got there, and not, as in some newly created border units, every fifth one was dragged by tractors.

[aszzz888]

Arzt (Yuri)
Yesterday, 11:17 am This is the current REALITY of our army.
Well at least it got there, and not, as in some newly created border units, every fifth one was dragged by tractors.

Have you seen the official videos and photos of the RF MS that were sent to NK ?! If not, don't follow the lead of some donavi49. Such uxspertov because of the hillock goals and objectives are indicated in my post below.

[-Dmitry-]

Here is still the old-fashioned AK shabby, Soviet pouch. The same ushatanaya SVDshka. And one unloading for three.

And also the "old" 6B43 6 protection class. I personally doubt that the Armenians have 6B43 in service.
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Well, here's the complete photo - here is the AK-74M and unloading. Everything as you need. In general, the fact that these specific 3 fighters "do not inspire" does not mean that the peacekeepers are equipped poorer than Armenians or Azerbaijanis. And the "grandfather's" AK-74s and the "ushatannaya" SVDka can quite compete on an equal footing with the new ARs or HKshkas.
Here are some better looking fighters :)

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[-Dmitry-]

It seems that they did not really prepare. Or, unlike in Crimea, the PR component of the commission was not worked out at all.

In general, this is not a photo of peacekeepers, but of the advanced mechanized group of the 102nd base. For according to the signed agreement, from heavy equipment, only armored personnel carriers can be armed with peacekeepers.

[aszzz888]

-Dmitry- (Dmitry)
Yesterday, 14: 00

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It seems that they did not really prepare. Or, unlike in Crimea, the PR component of the commission was not worked out at all.


In general, this is not a photo of peacekeepers, but of the advanced mechanized group of the 102nd base. For according to the signed agreement, from heavy equipment, only armored personnel carriers can be armed with peacekeepers.

I completely agree with you. Deliberately provided false photos, and posts to them by the Jewish lobby donavi49, do not carry true information, but are intended to deliberately humiliate the RF Ministry of Defense and all the RF Armed Forces.

[aszzz888]

donavi49
Yesterday, 09: 19

All lies! In the photo, neither people nor equipment has ANY relation to the MS of Russia. Donavi49 has one goal - to display the RF Armed Forces in the worst possible form, which is proved by the accompanying posts. From where, who pours, and whose mill is visible to the blind.

[aszzz888]

donavi49
14 November 2020 09:19 ..... Here's another old-fashioned AK shabby, Soviet pouch. The same ushatanaya SVDshka. And one unloading for three ...

Do not engage in fake action.

The footage showing the deployment of Russian peacekeepers in Stepanakert allows you to see the weapons that are standard for the mission in Karabakh. In particular, Russian servicemen have the latest AK-12 assault rifles, which have recently begun to enter the troops.

[maiman61]

I agree! Something our soldiers and weapons look poor. Peacekeepers are a mirror of the country, which prevented them from equipping them with the MOST modern weapons and uniforms! It seems that our "generals" and the Armenians studied at the same universities!

[aszzz888]

-3
I agree! Something our soldiers and weapons look poor. Peacekeepers are a mirror of the country, which prevented them from equipping them with the MOST modern weapons and uniforms! It seems that our "generals" and the Armenians studied at the same universities!

And it's hard to look at the official materials, or at least the previous material on VO, and compare with a fake from some cool one)) ehspert donavi49?

Shoigu reported to Putin on the progress of organizing a peacekeeping mission in Nagorno-Karabakh
November 13, 2020

[maiman61]

I served in the army for a long time and am used to trusting my eyes, and not the cabinet stars! On roller skates, I see soldiers and equipment with my own eyes!

[aszzz888]

maiman61 (Yuri)
Yesterday, 12: 16
NEW

-1
I served in the army for a long time and am used to trusting my eyes, and not the cabinet stars! On roller skates, I see soldiers and equipment with my own eyes!

The campaign is clear on what "rollers"!

[maiman61]

The campaign is not clear to you! Just zvizdabol!

[svoit]

Quote: Svetlana

psychological pressure on an infantryman, he is much weaker than a crocodile

Why is that? Everyone knows how to fill up a turntable, and you can hide, but it will be too late to hide from the UAV.

[rotmistr60]

Ours are just beginning to unfold and take up their deployment sites, and too "competent" and "sophisticated" in conducting peacekeeping operations is already a hail of criticism and a mountain of doubts. Did you even have to serve urgently? Or for criticism it is not necessary, the main thing is to have Vika at hand.

[Avior]

It would be better to understand who the peacekeepers are protecting from.
According to the dislocation, it turns out that the Armenians of the part of Karabakh, the remaining Armenian, from the attacks of the Azerbaijanis.
But the Armenians of Yerevan are very dissatisfied with the agreement, judging by the media, it creates obvious tension in the region. And if, for example, the Armenians dissatisfied with the agreement will attack Azerbaijanis undercover or semi-secretly, the Russians will have to shoot at the Armenians, or what?
And where will this lead?
But in Baku, such discontent is not visible, they are satisfied with the agreement, so it is strange to expect attacks from Azerbaijanis.
Will the peacekeepers find themselves between two fires?

[maiman61]

I disagree! I think that provocations and shooting in the back can only be expected from Armenians!

[rocket757]

And peacekeepers are always on the edge of a two-edged sword!
Provocations can / will be from any side, because there, in addition to the official ones, there is also any, different, stirring now deployed! It has always been like this ... and there will be external interests, where can we go without them?

[_Ugene_]

Helicopters transferred to Karabakh began to cover the columns of peacekeepers

and who covers the helicopters that cover the columns of peacekeepers? there is already a precedent

[iouris]

Helicopters are covered by agreements.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: _Ugene_

Helicopters transferred to Karabakh began to cover the columns of peacekeepers

and who covers the helicopters that cover the columns of peacekeepers? there is already a precedent

... shooting out heat traps from helicopters, why weren't they on the downed Mi-24, this question should be asked to the head of the air group ...

[hydrox]

Modern MANPADS on fired traps have not been caught for a long time, since they work not according to the flow of thermal radiation, but according to the signature (i.e., according to the degree of heating of the aircraft nodes).

[maiman61]

Our soldiers must be located outside the zone of territories that must be transferred to Azerbaijan! Let them figure it out themselves!

[Avior]

they are located, there is a map above

[alexmach]

It seemed to me or the helicopter in the video is not armed at all? The NUR launchers are empty. What "cover" can he exercise that?

[Lara Croft]

The map does not show the third ICBM, headquarters, combat and logistics support units of the 15th MRB. (peacekeeping) ...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

"Mi-8 and Mi-24, transferred to Nagorno-Karabakh, covered the columns of peacekeepers"
But how to cover them themselves must be ... One clings to another in modern warfare. Those cover these, these - others, others ... and so it went and went.

[lopuhan2006]

Who would cover the turntables themselves ...

[Old26]

Quote: WFP

I am tormented by terrible doubts that in the photo there are “peacekeepers” (and not a BTG from base 102 that scattered posts on the route of the columns entering Karabakh).
Form No. 8 has not been canceled.
Photos of convoys of peacekeepers on the march - stocked armored personnel carriers-82 with signs "MS", Kamaziki, tiger cubs, "seagull". The military is pretty well packed.

It may very well be. Moreover, there are no BMPs in the 15th peacekeeping brigade in the state.

[Black Colonel]

And what about the equipment of helicopters for disorienting launched MANPADS missiles? Earlier, it seems, it was reported about such oddities.

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: passerby

Will you not have to accept again an apology from Azerbaijan for the killed pilots? In war, like in war, right?

you have not been to the war, and you do not know how people are afraid of any sound ... !!!!!!!!!!

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Black Colonel

And what about the equipment of helicopters for disorienting launched MANPADS missiles? Earlier, it seems, it was reported about such oddities.

if you don’t wait, you don’t catch, but at the last moment hold on tight !!!!

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Old26

Quote: WFP

I am tormented by terrible doubts that in the photo there are “peacekeepers” (and not a BTG from base 102 that scattered posts on the route of the columns entering Karabakh).
Form No. 8 has not been canceled.
Photos of convoys of peacekeepers on the march - stocked armored personnel carriers-82 with signs "MS", Kamaziki, tiger cubs, "seagull". The military is pretty well packed.

It may very well be. Moreover, there are no BMPs in the 15th peacekeeping brigade in the state.

I'll explain to you, what's the difference from where - it was always secret !!!))))

[lvov_aleksey]

pliz "moderators" give the opportunity to evaluate the article itself (minus put), I minus all again !!!

[johnatan.kowalski]

How many of them fall again, the Turks click how many, again there will be nowhere to buy tomatoes)

[Archivist Vasya]

The first question that worries many here is who will cover the turntables themselves or how are they protected from attacks from the ground ???
There is not a word about this in the article. WHY?! Personally, I think that, at best, the author’s simply defect or there is no data on this issue (they didn’t disclose, for example), but at worst, nothing ...