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Karabakh 2020 and our future wars. Political analysis

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For the tragedy of the war in Karabakh, there is some background that has not been voiced in the press.


War, as Clausewitz taught us, is the continuation of politics by other, violent means. This means that it is impossible to prepare for war, ignoring political factors. War and politics are inextricably linked, moreover, in recent decades, the West has made the “opposite” statement of Zhou Enlai to Clausewitz's statement, that the opposite is true - politics is the continuation of the war by other, non-violent means. Who is right - Karl von Clausewitz or Zhou Enlai?

It's simple - corpses are formed in a war, and "clean" politics does without it. Are corpses formed as a result of Western policy? And how. So the statesman of the PRC is right. The last Karabakh war confirms this, one has only to "look behind the scenes". Moreover, for Armenia, the background of this tragic historical episode is much less important than for Russia.

Why did Pashinyan do all this?


Nikol Pashinyan is an Armenian Navalny, and his example shows well what happens to the peoples who believed their Navalny. It is especially important in this that the consequences of Pashinyan's "work" can be considered irreversible for Armenia, they cannot be corrected. In a sense, this is also a political lesson.

But something else is much more important - like Navalny, Pashinyan had foreign patrons. As in the case with Navalny, he was told what he should do. And he did it. Let's figure out what and why, but first, a little about another person who remained "in the shadows."

In 2018, Armen Sargsyan became the President of Armenia. In Russia, few people think about this person, especially since after a certain moment in Armenia, not the president, but the prime minister is the most influential leader.

But, nevertheless, it is worth focusing on the following. Sargsyan spent most of his life in London. First as a scientist from the USSR, then as an Armenian diplomat. Queen Elizabeth II addressed him by name, Prince Charles came to visit him in Armenia. This person is not just a part of the Western elites - he is part of them (just read here it is и here it is).

Sargsyan, barely finding himself in the presidency, immediately fell into a scandal - it turned out that he still pays taxes in Britain as a British citizen, at least he submitted his declaration for 2014, although he had previously claimed that he left British citizenship in 2011 year. Dual citizenship is prohibited in Armenia. But everything was quickly hushed up.

Karabakh 2020 and our future wars. Political analysis
Sargsyan with Joe Biden. By the way, he congratulated Biden on his election, was not afraid to rush. Or was he afraid not to rush?

Three months after the appointment of the British President Sargsyan, a revolution broke out in Yerevan. The reason for this was the attempt of the former president, hated by the people Serzh Sargsyan, to "climb" into the prime ministers, in violation of his own promises not to do so.

Very quickly, our “hero”, Nikol Pashinyan, became the leader of the protests, dressed up in camouflage and letting go of his beard in order to look more serious and impressive, and to resemble one of the Armenian heroes of the war in Karabakh, even the first one.


The real Pashinyan.


Pashinyan in a military-revolutionary "outfit". Then I had to leave my beard.

Everything would be fine, but “the revolution has a beginning, the revolution does not have an end” - after Sargsyan resigned and early parliamentary elections were called at the request of the opposition, Pashinyan only intensified the heat of the struggle for power and, as a result, widely using "Unsportsmanlike" methods, was able to take the post of prime minister. And - an important point - not without the participation of the British "overseer" Sargsyan, who at a certain moment neatly acted as a mediator in the current political crisis in Armenia.

What did Pashinyan do in the Karabakh direction when he became prime minister? Let's list it:

1. During the protests in 2018, Pashinyan stated that he would recognize the independence of Artsakh (Karabakh), which could not but cause concern in Azerbaijan. True, in the end he did not.
2. He did not disavow his old statements that there would be no compromises with Azerbaijan on the territories, as well as about the territorial claims of Artsakh to Azerbaijan.
3. Immediately after the inauguration, Pashinyan went to Karabakh, to the city of Shusha. The specificity of this place is that before the war and the collapse of the USSR, this city was almost completely inhabited by Azerbaijanis, but now they are naturally not there. There were heavy battles for Shusha in the first war: the Azerbaijanis from this city fired on Stepanakert, and the Armenians had to take it by storm. But given the events that followed his capture, the Armenians shouldn't have drawn attention to Shusha too often. Pashinyan, on the other hand, demonstratively arrived there, as if the prime minister had no other business, and arranged dances there in honor of the anniversary of the capture of the city by the Armenians. It is not difficult to understand what thoughts and emotions this trick aroused in Azerbaijan.
4. Pashinyan has repeatedly made statements on Karabakh openly provocative towards Azerbaijan.

It would seem that after all this, Pashinyan would have to sharply intensify contacts with the Russian Federation, on the one hand, because without Russia, Armenia could not fight off a much richer and more populated Azerbaijan, and on the other, help to strengthen the border with Azerbaijan. But Pashinyan behaved completely differently.

Let's briefly list his policy towards the Russian Federation:

1. Arrests, and illegal, of pro-Russian politicians.
2. The arrest of the Secretary General of the CSTO, a military structure that, in theory, would have to defend Armenia if something happened.
3. Abusive behavior towards the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin, to the extent that Pashinyan did not meet him at the airport during his visit to Yerevan in 2019. Putin's request to end the politically motivated persecution of Robert Kocharian was also ignored. If we list all of Pashinyan's anti-Russian demarches, then the whole article will not be enough. Something to see here.

What was the reason for this? There is a theory that Pashinyan is just an idiot. Those who think so should try to seize power in some country. Pashinyan could do it, albeit with outside help. Pashinyan is not an idiot, and his anti-Russian antics are due to the fact that his masters from the West, including the structures of the notorious George Soros, sought this from him.

The connections between Pashinyan and Soros, as well as his spitting in Russia, are described in more or less detail. here in this article in Gazeta.Ru, strictly required reading.
Naturally, various Western non-profit organizations such as Freedom House in Pashinyan simply “doted”, and in the Western press it was just a beacon of democracy.

But maybe at least Pashinyan somehow strengthened the defense of Artsakh? Also no, nothing has changed much in the two years of his premiership. Today they say that the Armenians had no money. But did they have picks with crowbars? Cement, reinforcement? Camouflage nets? Maybe at least the defensive positions needed to be properly equipped? Disguise from observation from above? The Armenians did NOTHING. Pashinyan, without doing ANYTHING, actively provoked Azerbaijan and severed ties with the Russian Federation - all at the same time.

And this is in the conditions when there were battles with Azerbaijan quite recently along the line of contact, when there was already a trend to "enter" the Transcaucasia of Turkey, in which the Armenians had once already been subjected to genocide, when in Azerbaijan people received their first captain and lieutenant shoulder straps. ALL LIFE we lived in an atmosphere of expectation of an Azerbaijani revenge in Karabakh, all, completely, from the moment when they learned to speak. And when Azerbaijan already had both numerical and qualitative superiority over Armenia. And a more powerful economy.

Through the eyes of Aliyev.


Let's look at the situation with the eyes of Azerbaijanis. The return of Karabakh, and especially the territories of Azerbaijan around it, was a fix idea, a "karmic debt" for all Azerbaijanis after defeat in the first war, it was no secret to anyone. The Azerbaijanis were very indiscriminate in their means in those years, but the Armenians also quite skillfully carried out ethnic cleansing, which became a serious "birth trauma" for Azerbaijan, which had lost the war.

National revenge was just a matter of time, and Azerbaijan was actively preparing for this revenge, first of all, by properly indoctrinating the youth. Whoever watched the online discussions at Azerbaijani forums in the 2000s and 2010s will not allow lying - the idea that "we have to do this" was simply unbreakable, this was their vision of reality, a future in which the Azerbaijani a soldier would not stand firmly on the land of the NKR, in Azerbaijan they could not imagine, even if for some reason they wanted. But they didn't want to.

Ilham Aliyev made a huge contribution to the acquisition of military capabilities for this. In 2020, Azerbaijani troops turned out to be trained, organized and motivated for battles with heavy losses, their technical support was sufficient to storm defensive positions in the mountains. Aliyev was also confident of strong support from his ally Turkey.


Everything was obvious for a long time.

Israel also made a significant contribution to the growth of Azerbaijan's military capabilities, and Russia also supplied Baku with modern weapon no limits.

But weapons and troops are one thing, and the political support of military operations is another. Aliyev knew that if something happened, both Russia and Iran could pull him down. Yes, so it happened the last time. And this problem was intractable - although Russia does not need such an “ally” as Armenia, but, alas, the situation obliges to intervene. That was until the moment when Pashinyan came to power in Yerevan.

And this factor changed everything - Pashinyan insulted the national pride of Azerbaijan as best he could, but at the same time, at the same time, he drove relations with Russia into a serious crisis. Pashinyan insulted Putin, provoked, or at least did not extinguish, anti-Russian sentiments in the country, and at the same time tried his best to get closer to the West.

What should Aliyev have thought at this moment? That there will be no other moment when Russia simply will not be able to “fit in” for Armenia, and it is necessary to attack now.
So he did in the end, and we know the result today.

Let us ask ourselves the question - did not Pashinyan provoke this war with all these antics? If we admit that he did not provoke, then we must admit Pashinyan is an idiot, but we have just established that he is not an idiot, right? So.

Deliberate provocation.


Pashinyan deliberately provoked a conflict with Azerbaijan, today this is obvious. He did this because his owners demanded it from him, and he performed this task masterfully.

Why would the owners need it? Then, if Putin were not so cold-blooded, we would get involved in this war. Turkey in Transcaucasia is unprofitable for us, we do not need Syrian militants on the border with Dagestan. We also don't need the fact that someone is solving problems in the former USSR by force, all this does harm to us. Under these conditions, the use of force by Russia against Azerbaijan could not be recognized as impossible, at least its demonstration (what it turned out) during the Kavkaz-2020 command and control squad was directed specifically to Aliyev and Erdogan, who was behind him.

But, if we happened to get there, we would have to fight not only with Azerbaijan, but also with Turkey, and not only in Transcaucasia. And we were absolutely not ready for this, and we are not ready now. And no punches in the chest like the Caucasus-2020 exercises will deceive anyone.

The provocation of just such a war took place in Karabakh, and it was for him that the West pushed Pashinyan into the prime minister of Armenia. This whole multi-move was against us.

And the fury with which the pro-Armenian agitators intimidated us with Erdogan from all the alarm clocks during this war is very significant. Indeed, before, none of these people tried to warn Pashinyan at least remotely about how everything could end. And everything was obvious.

The fact that Soros's agent Pashinyan, who was nurtured by the British Sargsyan, did everything on purpose is indirectly documented. And the same indirect documentary evidence contains information about where we will "catch" the next blow.

RAND Report


In 2019, the well-known American RAND corporation, one of the most important military-political “thought factories” in the United States, released a report entitled “Extending Russia. Сompeting from Advantageous Ground ". The approximate meaning of this name without losing its meaning in Russian sounds like “Straining Russia. Competing from a position of advantage ”.
Report in different formats is available by the link on the RAND website, a paper version can also be purchased there.

The content of this document is extremely simple - it contains various possible options for the United States of America to conduct a policy that is harmful to Russia. The authors of the report in the preamble write in plain text that the purpose of the proposed measures is not to contain Russia (this is possible as a “bonus”), but to overstrain it, to harm it without slipping into military action.

The authors proposed various directions for putting pressure on the Russian Federation, from interfering with gas exports, to expanding the US military presence in Europe as an instrument of pressure on the Russian Federation. In principle, in an obvious way, after a few months, the United States began to act strictly in accordance with this report, pushing exactly the vulnerabilities pointed out by its authors. This means that there is a high degree of probability that the RAND algorithms were adopted by the Trump administration.

On the one hand, this gives us the opportunity to find out the future - the Americans kindly published their plans, and then by their actions showed that these are EXACTLY PLANS, and not just a conceptual document. They, of course, differ in some way from the actually taken actions that followed later, but any plan for a war or operation, or a decision to fight, differs from its own implementation - always. At least, it is obvious WHERE the Americans will conduct offensive subversive actions against us, and for what purpose.

On the other hand, this document gives us the opportunity to understand the past, including Karabakh.

In the chapter on the geopolitical “dimension” of pressure on Russia, RAND identifies the following possible leverage points:

1. Assistance with arms to Ukraine.
2. Strengthening support for the Syrian rebels.
3. Facilitating regime change in Belarus.
4. The use of "friction" in the Caucasus.
5. Reducing the influence of Russia in Central Asia.
6. Complication of Russia's presence in Moldova (Transnistria).

It is easy to see that with all the differences between the events that we observed in late 2019 - early 2020, from the published plans, with the directions of US attacks on our interests, RAND “guessed”.


That's it, point by point.

What did the report say about the situation in Zakaz'ye?
If we ignore what has been written about Georgia and attempts to get closer to Azerbaijan (which in reality did not exist), then the picture in RAND's analytics is as follows. To "strain" Russia and force it to spend additional funds and forces on strengthening the Southern Military District, it is necessary to try to tear Armenia away from Russia and turn it towards the West.

At the same time, it remains unclear how the fact of the existence of a dispute with Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh will affect this maneuver of Armenia. The risk for the United States is Azerbaijan, which can replace Russia with Armenia as a partner or resolve the Karabakh issue by force. It is not clear to the US how to solve the Karabakh issue, NATO is pushing both Armenia and Azerbaijan to solve it with the help of Russia. It was emphasized that the involvement of the West in all these matters should be minimal, since with serious participation in the affairs of the region, it would be the West that would be “tense”, and not Russia.

Looks like what happened?
Yes, minus the fact that Pashinyan really teased Aliyev. Thus, it can be stated that the United States was interested in the region, saw the risks in it, planned actions in the Armenian direction, taking into account the PRESENCE of Pashinyan - they acted there (together with the British), and in the event of a war in Karabakh, they planned to “reel in fishing rods”. The goal is to force Russia to spend resources. Happened?

Happened.
Now we will keep 2000 soldiers in Karabakh to protect people there who, in large part, hate us, we have already lost two people killed and a helicopter there. And the United States, Soros and the West in general simply threw Pashinyan when he did what was required of him. And they did not fit in for Armenia, against which the Azeri risk had "shot" after all.


That is, RAND indicated the path, indicated the goal, the region and with whom in this region it is necessary to start, but during the implementation it did not work out as the corporation planned, while the desired result - the shackling of the resources of the Russian Federation in this "swamp", was nevertheless achieved ... The difference between the plan of the operation and its progress as it is.

However, we repeat once again - RAND is RAND, it is a private corporation, but what is actually planned in Washington and London may and does differ from analysts' plans, including in terms of goal setting. And if RAND could have a superficial attitude to the Turkish factor in Zakazye, then those people who make decisions on allocating resources for specific undertakings (Pashinyan) do not make such stupid mistakes. The Turkish factor was clearly taken into account in this multi-move.

Russia, unfortunately, missed the opportunity to solve the problem "inexpensively". Now we will get stuck there, and the Turkish influence will only increase. Nothing can be done now: we missed this blow. Will we miss the next one?

The next battlefield is Transnistria.


With all the drawbacks of a "reactive" strategy, we know where the enemy will hit next time. This is Transnistria. The point is vulnerable and dangerous. Technically, if at the same time Ukraine and Moldova embark on a blockade of Transnistria, then Russia will have no choice but to invade the territory of Ukraine or another military operation against this country. If the Ukrainian authorities do not respond to military losses with concessions, then in principle the Russian Federation will have only two options.

The first is the landing operation and the "breakdown" of the corridor to Tiraspol from the Black Sea. At the same time, we will face the risk of Romania joining the war, then NATO and, as a result, the United States, which by a certain moment can make the war nuclear. But you can't retreat either, this will not be the case.

The second option is, as Putin promised to do, if Ukraine provokes an aggravation of the war in Donbass during the FIFA World Cup, liquidate Ukrainian statehood and break through the "corridor" in Transnistria along the ground. Throughout Ukraine.

It is not hard to guess that these options can be incredibly expensive for the RF. Of course, the listed risks are maximum, in reality everything can end much easier, even Poroshenko did not dare to introduce a blockade of Transnistria, although this issue was discussed a couple of times. But there is no guarantee that it will never come to that.

What does the RAND report say about Transnistria? In addition to the delusional (and RAND immediately marks this idea as dubious) idea of ​​attracting the youth of Transnistria to its side, RAND's plans are as follows.

Strengthen EU support for Moldova, deepen cooperation with NATO, invite Moldova to NATO, help Moldova break the 1994 agreements on the basis of which Russian peacekeepers are present in Transnistria and persuade Moldova to seek their withdrawal - naturally, with broad support from the international community ".

The advantages of such a policy are the damage to Russia and the benefits for Romania. The authors of the report indicate that part of the population of Moldova has aspirations to join Romania. At the same time, RAND analysts take into account the fact that the population of Transnistria and Russia may offer "violent" resistance to the reunification of Moldova - but do not draw any conclusions from this, simply pointing out that such a risk exists.

In addition, RAND analysts are doing the same "trick" as they did in the case of Armenia - just as they "did not notice" that Turkey is actively involved in the politics of the Caucasus, similarly they managed to "overlook" the interests and politics Romania, they just mentioned it and that's it. And the fact that it will also act - no. And, as in the case of Turkey in the Transcaucasus, this player has its own integration project in the region.

But again, RAND identified the pain point correctly. And in it those events are already beginning to unfold, with the help of which the Americans again plan to "strain" us in RAND terminology, and in fact - to drag us into another war.

Transnistrian front.


Elections are taking place in Moldova now. The first round has already ended, and two candidates have qualified for the second - the pro-Russian incumbent President Igor Dodon and the anti-Russian Maia Sandu. The second round will take place on November 15.

Briefly but succinctly on this topic Ukrainian (surprise!) publication "Vesti.UA":

According to an express poll conducted by the non-governmental organization WatchDog and the Institute for Public Policy, 41 percent of citizens voted for Dodon in the first round, and 35 percent for Sandu. “Her victory came as a surprise to everyone,” says Jan Lisnevsky, director of the Intellect Group, a consulting and analytical company, in an interview with DW. “The Diaspora ensured Sandu's victory. For the first time in stories In Moldova, the turnout at foreign polling stations was unprecedentedly high, although there were no significant prerequisites for mass mobilization of voters, ”he says. The high turnout looked especially strange, given the huge number of cases and unprecedented quarantine measures in connection with the Covid-19 pandemic, which suggests that the data from foreign sites was simply falsified.

The publication also cites the words of the chairman of the Trade Union of employees of power structures of Moldova, Yuri Chofu:

“We do not know what the plans of its overseas curators are, but the people of Moldova have already seen the true face of Western strategists and their local activists in the 1990s, in April 2009, when the parliament and presidency buildings were burned down, and just recently in Varnitsa, when supporters Sandu blocked roads, punctured car tires, threatened voters from Transnistria and called them separatists. One organizer is behind all these events - the Americans. The West made it clear: if Maya Sandu does not win, then the elections in Moldova are rigged. Everything goes to this. The Americans have a program of color revolutions rolled back, worked out "

So, it seems that the new "point of application" of the US is already known - Moldova and Transnistria. Well, and the geographical map is also known, where and what is there - it is clear. However, if Sandu really wins the elections (whether honestly or not), then Russia will not be able to feed the Russian population of Transnistria to someone (Romanians, for example), it will be an internal political catastrophe.

If Chisinau really falls on Tiraspol, especially with the help of Romania, and if Ukraine supports it at least in some way, then a very difficult situation will turn out - a choice between an internal political catastrophe or a very big war. In case of Sandu's victory, it remains to hope for the prudence of Kiev, no matter how unreliable it sounds.

Last time, in the face of a similar impending disaster, and in many respects for the sake of preventing it from happening, “vacationers” appeared in eastern Ukraine. How they find themselves on the western border of Ukraine was described above.

I would like to believe that the Kremlin read this American report and came up with some beautiful and competent move in advance. There is simply no time to start inventing it right now.

Conclusion.


As can be seen from everything that happened in Karabakh and what is happening now around Moldova, all these wars, although based on real and long-standing contradictions in the regions (Karabakh and Transnistria began without American participation), do not escalate on their own - they are skillfully exacerbated, and sharpen very cheaply. What turned out to be cheaper - hiring Pashinyan and a couple of hundred more unprincipled people like him, or our deployment of a peacekeeping contingent in Karabakh for an indefinite period?

Which will turn out to be cheaper - financing the activities of Maia Sandu or a potential landing operation with a "breakdown" of the corridor from the Black Sea coast to Transnistria?

Some domestic "political scientists" are beginning to realize that we are being "imprisoned", but the enemy is hiding absolutely nothing, all his directions for future efforts are not just obvious - they are spelled out in analytical reports and various documents, we know everything in advance, but here's why- So far, there has been no early reaction on the part of Russia that would have made it possible to stop threats in advance.

Wealthy America AGAIN spends disproportionately less to harm us than we do to deal with the consequences. Moreover, it acts "according to Zhou Enlai" - continuing the war by other, not violent means, but with the same corpses in the end.

How long will this continue? The question is open, but for now we are looking at the development of events in Moldova. And we are preparing for war.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 15 November 2020 15: 15
    -10 qualifying.
    Our future Wars - let them stay in tyrnet!
    Russians Do not start the war, We end them! With modern weapons ... I really don't want the Whole World in Trash. Let's Live - Amicably ... Leopold's Politics, but I hope Reason wins.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 15 November 2020 15: 30
      38
      Lesh, hi! hi
      "If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it gets both war and shame." (C) And our objective reality, alas, fully confirms the words of the eminent politician.
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 15 November 2020 15: 46
        +4
        Lyosha, you seem to have seen the War ... do you really want to see it again?
        I see her every three months, now in a dream ... I wake up in sweat. I see the silhouettes, I don't see the face. Why buoy (Float attached to the bottom) Do I need a War? Do you think I wish war on my Son? Definitely not.
        Your eminent politician, an ardent Russophobe, and for you, he is also an anti-Soviet, it is strange that you rely on his statement. Hello hi
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 15 November 2020 16: 01
          15
          Some statements cannot be refuted by simply giving them a political color. In fact, today Russian citizens are oppressed by their own "state" to the tune of "beloved" partners "of our" elita ". And it is they who push us to war, and no one else.
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 15 November 2020 16: 11
            +5
            Quote: lexus
            Some statements cannot be refuted by simply giving them a political color. In fact, today Russian citizens are oppressed by their own "state" to the tune of "beloved" partners "of our" elita ". And it is they who push us to war, and no one else.

            Oh, Alexey, here you are again pulling into politics. am
            I also consider myself an Elite, not because of money and I do not need Power ... I saved the Country, and voted for VVP in Komsomolskoye, with shots and not ballots. And I am very glad that at that time they were collecting from the world on a string ... somehow 50 thousand Fighters were found ... and I see - now there are a hundred times more of them!
            Why do we need a buoy (a float attached to the bottom) of Voinukhi? I don't need them. Although I'm ready, and I will not mow.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 15 November 2020 16: 19
              +7
              Irrefutable facts are always inconvenient for someone. Your question is not for me, but for the "bunker".
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 15 November 2020 18: 56
                +1
                An excellent analytical article as a topical guide in action!

                Unfortunately, indeed, if you want, Russia, the world, then get ready for war!
                1. Fan-fan
                  Fan-fan 15 November 2020 22: 15
                  +8
                  Not very great. The author does not say that if the previous ruler of Armenia had stolen less and thought more about people, then Pashinyan would not have come to power so easily.
                  1. timokhin-aa
                    15 November 2020 23: 31
                    +2
                    Sargsyan is mentioned in the article.
                2. Cosm22
                  Cosm22 16 November 2020 01: 21
                  -2
                  An excellent analytical article?
                  It's not the same for everybody...
                  Analytics should rely on facts, and not on conspiracy theories and the whispering of attendants on the bench at the entrance.
                  You read such a pearl of "analyst" - "And the USA, Soros and the West in general just threw Pashinyan when he did what was demanded of him," and you start to move your convolutions. Remember when it was Armenia that contrived to officially enter into military-political alliances with the United States or the West? On what legal basis should the same USA or the West help Armenia?
                  Then you remember that Armenia, it turns out, is a member of a certain CSTO. Officially and since the last century.
                  So you start scratching your head, trying to understand - who, after all, threw whom?
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 16 November 2020 08: 24
                    -2
                    Quote: Cosm22
                    Remember when it was Armenia that contrived to officially enter into military-political alliances with the United States or the West? On what legal basis should the same USA or the West help Armenia?

                    You are thinking strangely. Namely.

                    By the way, the largest US military base is in Armenia! In your opinion, is it standing there without a US agreement with the Armenian leadership? Did Armenia let her in for nothing?
                    Why did Pashinyan turn to the United States for help? So he had a reason for that! Remember - by analogy - on what basis did the US military bases find themselves and are in the EU?
                    So there is a military treaty between Armenia and the United States. The only question is about its unspoken content.

                    Well, I would also add that a whole network is currently operating in Armenia - 12 biological laboratories created or modernized with the money of the American military department within the framework of the Biological Threat Reduction Program (BTRP), which, in turn, is part of the Biological Program Joint Participation ”(CBEP) USA.
                    As in other countries, these biological laboratories only nominally belong to Armenia, but in fact controlled by the American Security Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), which in this country is supervised by an employee of the military attache of the US Embassy, ​​Major E. Larsen. The American ownership of these properties is confirmed by a list of contractors. This is, in particular, CH2M Hill, which received $ 50 million from DTRA for the creation of laboratories and an information network in Armenia. This company, in turn, through the intermediary of Black & Veatch attracted two more subcontractors, who for many years engaged in the development of biological weapons.
                    Do you think they just ended up in Armenia like that?

                    All this US presence in Armenia is the “miracles” of the Armenian MULTIDECTORITY.

                    Don't be naive!
                    1. Azimuth
                      Azimuth 16 November 2020 19: 20
                      +1
                      You have confused the embassy with a military base.

                      It's the same with laboratories.
                      The 12 laboratories mentioned were created by the United States not in Armenia alone, but in almost ALL CIS states except for us and Belarus, of which four are CSTO member states Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 16 November 2020 21: 35
                        0
                        Quote: Azimuth
                        You have confused the embassy with a military base.

                        Officially, this is not a military base, but the US Embassy, ​​but combined with the functions of a military base (data from 2013). And it is unlikely that something has changed there since 2013. Namely.
                        Initiated by Robert Kocharian (the second president of independent Armenia) at the suggestion of Vartan Oskanian (Armenian Foreign Minister during the presidency of Robert Kocharian) "complimentary" foreign policy, which continues to this day, will lead Armenia to disaster.
                        Today There is a US military base in Yerevan - 800 marines are stationed in the bunkers of the embassy, ​​which is the world's largest embassy building. Why did the Americans need to build the largest complex not in the capital of a great power, but in a third-rate state, I think, there is no need to prompt. Also, do not remind you of what the American Marines are, let's just say that 800 marines are half of the Armenian division in terms of combat power, professionalism, ability to solve assigned tasks. That is, at any moment the Americans can stage a coup here, and local forces will not be able to take power away from them. In principle, no one would dare to do this (“ask” the Americans to return power).

                        No there are no official agreements between Armenia and the United States on the deployment of the marines; more precisely, there are hidden agreements, signed behind the back of the society.
                        For details see - https://inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20130402/207619984.html

                        The US Embassy is located on the outskirts of Yerevan. Fully autonomous facility with its own power plant and underground reservoir. Located on an area of ​​9 (!!!) hectares and is one of the largest American offices in the world! The first place is in Iraq, the second is just this.
                        The number of personnel is, according to various estimates, from 2000 to 2500 thousand people!
                        By the way, the Russian embassy in Yerevan has a staff of about 100 people.
                      2. ccsr
                        ccsr 17 November 2020 13: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        The US Embassy is located on the outskirts of Yerevan. Fully autonomous facility with its own power plant and underground reservoir. Located on an area of ​​9 (!!!) hectares and is one of the largest American offices in the world! The first place is in Iraq, the second is just this.

                        I don't know what surprises you here, but this is a typical American intelligence center that works not only in that region and in Iran in the first place, but also throughout southern Russia. We had such a thing in Cuba and it would be time to return to this again. As I understand it, the stake on the deployment of such a center in the former Central Asian republics failed because of fears of local Islamists, but Armenia is suitable for this purpose in all respects. I will not be surprised that after five years of our peacekeepers being in Stepanakert, they will be asked to get out under some plausible pretext, and a US military base with an airfield for all types of aircraft will be deployed. This is a long game, and only naive people can hope for the decency of the Armenian (or Azerbaijani) authorities. I think that the Americans prepared such a scenario in advance, which is why they did not get involved in this conflict at all, deciding to release it on the brakes, leaving us to clear up the discontent of both sides.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 17 November 2020 14: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: ccsr
                        I will not be surprised that after five years of finding our peacekeepers in Stepanakert, they will be asked to get out under some plausible pretext, and a US military base with an airfield for all types of aircraft will be deployed. This is a long game, and only naive people can hope for the decency of the Armenian (or Azerbaijani) authorities. I think that the Americans prepared such a scenario in advance, which is why they did not get involved in this conflict at all, deciding to release it on the brakes, leaving us to disentangle the discontent of both sides.

                        I agree with you completely!
                        Moreover, Russian analysts are more specific about this. I don't even dare to voice it on "VO".
                        Moore, the head of MI6, runs everything.
      2. sniperino
        sniperino 15 November 2020 21: 38
        -7
        Quote: lexus
        In fact, today Russian citizens are oppressed by their own "state" to the tune of "beloved" partners "of our" elita ".
        How can you call your own or shared fantasies about partners' pipes a "fact" ...
  • Finches
    Finches 15 November 2020 15: 16
    +6
    Liberalism and Western ideology in general is an ordinary hypertrophied fascism! Papa-Soros, Pashinyan, Zelensky, Tikhonovskaya, a galaxy of Georgian clowns, Baltic clowns, etc. Our Navalny and his supporters, their "roofs" Macrons, German Frau and others. Some of the Anglo-Saxons, as an apotheosis, are ordinary adherents of fascism, hiding behind a mask! Russia - on its own skin, experienced the charm of fascism-Nazism, a little patted the Jews, but they, as usual, in their own manner, first made a gesheft out of Christ, now they make a profit from the Holocaust - they both yours and ours - what can you do, God's chosen people - tragedy tragedy, but what will we have from this ...! And Russia, FREE OF CHARGE, paid a tremendous price for itself and for that guy (Jews, Poles, Bulgarians, French, Italians, Hungarians, Spaniards ...) - the only people in the world who really know the price of fascism! But who is interested in the modern world of consumption?
  • Lexus
    Lexus 15 November 2020 15: 17
    25
    And what to fight for? For the priests, the stealing "family" and other people's property?
    Serfs can and must fight only for freedom, i.e. against the oppressors.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 15 November 2020 15: 28
      16
      Quote: lexus
      And what to fight for? For the priests, the stealing "family" and other people's property?
      Serfs can and must fight only for freedom, i.e. against the oppressors.

      Well, why ... for the fact that pensions would be canceled altogether, medicine and education were left only for the rich ... in general, for Chubais ... Rotenberg ... but how does it sound ... for Chubais ...
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 15 November 2020 15: 42
        14
        Then they will give a medal and dance "on the bones", and the bottom line will be orphans that nobody needs, whom these same hucksters, and no one else, will rob, because there is no one to intercede.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 15 November 2020 16: 58
          11
          hi Alex,
          and the bottom line will be orphans that nobody needs, whom these same hucksters, and no one else, will rob, because there is no one to intercede.
          Yes, they rob without war ... and there is no one to intercede ... smile
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 15 November 2020 17: 05
            10
            Alexey hi,
            I mean that orphans are robbed only by downright scum.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 15 November 2020 15: 29
      14
      Something the author mixed a lot in a heap ...
      I poorly traced the logical threads, but the thesis "get up is a huge country, there are only enemies around" - I caught it. I'll go to my neighbor to take a closer look - he has relatives in Moldova ...
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 15 November 2020 15: 47
        10
        Colleague hi, aha, something in the spirit of "Hooligans deprive of sight!" (FROM)
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 16 November 2020 00: 22
        0
        As a result, the author reduces his analytical work to a secondary particular "on the topic of the day." Namely, for the elections in Moldova. But there are much more important and painful issues for Russia in Central Asia!
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 November 2020 16: 24
      14
      Quote: lexus
      Serfs can and must fight only for freedom, i.e. against the oppressors.

      Alexey plus .. only a class approach. All these imperialist wars into the furnace, because this is for slaves, and up there they will always agree among themselves, drinking all sorts of drinks of a hundred years old
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 15 November 2020 16: 43
        29
        Michael hi, when I was young, I "drove" to the North Caucasus. And what do I see today?
        Chechnya - the Emirates are "resting", and my region - it was as if it had been heavily bombed yesterday.
        The cannibalistic "state", which in every possible way encourages the extermination of the Russians, is not mine!
    4. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 15 November 2020 17: 28
      16
      Quote: lexus
      And what to fight for? For the priests, the stealing "family" and other people's property?

      The question is not even why. The question is - how did they live up to this. In foreign policy, the situation is a tracing paper from the 1930s. When there was the USSR, the allied Mongolia and only enemies around. The only problem is that then there were ideological contradictions between the USSR and the rest of the world. Now ... What a potanin, what a bezos, what Amani with all sorts of jialins, ... Twins and brothers. And stir up a bunch of cunning plans, which eventually led to the fact that the country had no ally left ... By God, talent, not everyone is given this. Last time Kohl was the first to achieve such an enchanting "success". It really didn't end well for Russia.
      1. Pushkowed
        Pushkowed 15 November 2020 17: 57
        +3
        Last time Kohl was the first to achieve such an enchanting "success".
        The amendment is not the first, but the second.

        "Success" is really enchanting.
        Losing to losers is strong.
        But that time everything ended relatively well for Russia. If only because it became Soviet, and even Socialist. For some time. Alas, after 7 decades, this result has expired. This is a lesson for all of us. We must take this into account when planning.
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 15 November 2020 18: 56
          +3
          Quote: Pushkowed
          The amendment is not the first, but the second.

          Nope. The second was simply a giant of thought. And a born genius of politics, amid some. What is Montenegro alone, which almost immediately entered the RYA, and concluded peace with the Japanese only in 2006 years of war, however yes Against the background of our current "allies", gently licked by the Kremlin, and for example, who do not recognize the same Crimea as part of Russia, this is a very worthy example. Well, I doubt very much that among the current "friends" and "strategic partners" someone is capable of such a thing. So .... The situation is a copy of the one that was before the Crimean, and not before the WWI. Before WWI, everything was blissful when compared with 2020.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 15 November 2020 21: 46
            +1
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            What is Montenegro alone, which almost immediately entered the RYA, and made peace with the Japanese only in 2006.

            I'm sorry, but Montenegro was a part of Yugoslavia almost all this time, until 2006.
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            The situation is a copy of the one that was before the Crimean, and not before the WWI. Before WWI, everything was blissful when compared with 2020.

            Very controversial ... like "Russia We Lost" sad
      2. Lexus
        Lexus 15 November 2020 18: 12
        +3
        Hello! love
        "A million spectators in gray overcoats" was not enough to
        "boo the" Crimean "battle scene". It turned out only to "whistle".
    5. timokhin-aa
      15 November 2020 20: 02
      -1
      Are you a serf?
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 15 November 2020 20: 14
        +6
        Through the efforts of the "sovereign people" everything goes to that. Compare the vanishing rights with the growing responsibilities - and, I'm sure, answer the question posed to yourself.
        1. timokhin-aa
          15 November 2020 20: 45
          -4
          Compare fading rights to growing responsibilities


          Example?
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 15 November 2020 21: 01
            14
            The electoral law, free medical care and education, for example, in fact remained only "on paper". In contrast, new, growing by leaps and bounds, extortions.
            1. timokhin-aa
              15 November 2020 22: 06
              -7
              Are you definitely from Russia?
  • SaLaR
    SaLaR 15 November 2020 15: 19
    +6
    Russia ... wake up ... soon it will be too late ..
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 15 November 2020 15: 26
    +3
    Another custom-made article written in order to preserve the status quo, when the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
    1. Jager
      Jager 15 November 2020 16: 12
      +5
      Good article in my opinion. But all her layouts are clear to any thinking person without her.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 15 November 2020 16: 39
        +3
        Quote: Jager
        Good article in my opinion. But all her layouts are clear to any thinking person without her.

        Well, yes, yes. Let us rally all together against an external threat. Only I, for some reason, do not want to rally with all sorts of Chubais, Potanins and Rotenbergs. Because the finale is known in advance, someone will be included in the Forbes lists, and someone, as he ran "with a bare bottom", will continue this exciting activity.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 15 November 2020 16: 54
          +8
          Alexey hiThose who “did not fit into the market”, according to the opinion and efforts of the bankrupt “authorities,” should, and then not for long, remain exclusively in the memory ... on the gravestones.
        2. timokhin-aa
          16 November 2020 12: 44
          0
          Wait until this hated Russian Federation is plowed up by American nuclear warheads is much more correct for you, right?
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 16 November 2020 12: 57
            +1
            Quote: timokhin-aa
            Wait until this hated Russian Federation is plowed up by American nuclear warheads is much more correct for you, right?

            Perhaps it would be more correct to begin with, to limit the appetites of those in power? Build an economy independent of the export of raw materials? Then, you see, it will be possible to allocate more money for the defense industry, and not only for the defense industry, but also for education and medicine. If our government was more afraid of the "external enemy" than of the "internal enemy", then the number of armed forces would be greater than the number of various "power structures".
            1. timokhin-aa
              19 November 2020 12: 04
              -2
              Build an economy independent of the export of raw materials?


              Do you remember how oil futures went negative in the spring? The USSR in a similar situation fell to its knees and died. Don't you feel the difference with what is now?
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 19 November 2020 14: 51
                0
                Quote: timokhin-aa
                Do you remember how oil futures went negative in the spring? The USSR in a similar situation fell to its knees and died. Don't you feel the difference with what is now?

                Sometimes when you write, the impression is that you are delusional. Do you really think that the USSR collapsed due to the decline in oil prices :?
                1. timokhin-aa
                  19 November 2020 15: 38
                  0
                  Economic problems precipitated its decay, and falling oil prices contributed to these problems. Now this is not.

                  I remember socialism, if that. Tie up with leftist propaganda, find yourself a better job.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 19 November 2020 22: 05
                    0
                    Quote: timokhin-aa
                    I remember socialism, if that.

                    And I remember socialism, if that.
                    Quote: timokhin-aa
                    Economic problems precipitated its decay and falling oil prices contributed to these problems.

                    The problems of the USSR did not lie in the economic plane, but in the fact that since the time of Khrushchev, an "irreplaceable" party bureaucracy was in power. Which did not report to its constituents and, in fact, could not be recalled.
                    Quote: timokhin-aa
                    Tie up with leftist propaganda, find yourself a better job.

                    How are you? To lick the current oligarchic regime? To justify the criminal actions of the current "privatizers"? No, thank you, "you can't wash a black dog to white." As the saying goes, "Plato is my friend, but the truth is dearer."
                    1. timokhin-aa
                      20 November 2020 01: 19
                      0
                      How are you? To lick the current oligarchic regime? To justify the criminal actions of the current "privatizers"? No, thank you, "you can't wash a black dog to white." As the saying goes, "Plato is my friend, but the truth is dearer."


                      the truth is that you are a leftist bot, and there is no need for lyal here.
                      I've experienced the consequences of one revolution myself, and I don't need to poison fairy tales.
                      He remembers the USSR.
                      Apparently, you were not in the project then.
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 20 November 2020 14: 37
                        0
                        Quote: timokhin-aa
                        I've experienced the consequences of one revolution myself, and I don't need to poison fairy tales.

                        I just want to ask out of curiosity, how old are you? What consequences of the revolution could you experience? Have you participated in collectivization? Fought side by side with Chapaev or Shchors? Or Krasnov and Shkuro are closer to you? Did you build Magnitka? Did you dig the White Sea-Baltic Canal? If you are so ignorant that by revolution you mean Gorbachev's collapse of the USSR, then I will remind you that revolution means a change in the socio-economic formation from a regressive to a progressive one. That is, during the bourgeois revolution, the regressive feudal socio-economic formation was replaced by a more progressive - bourgeois, during the socialist revolution, respectively, the regressive bourgeois formation, was replaced by the progressive, that is, socialist. In the 90s, there was a rollback to the previous socio-economic formation. This phenomenon is called a reaction. Study at least a school history course.
                        Quote: timokhin-aa
                        the truth is that you are a leftist bot, and there is no need for lyal here.

                        I want to remind you that terrorist organizations, such as the Red Army Faction (RAF) or the Turkish grouping Revolutionary People's Liberation Front, to which I have no relation in any way, and their position, I do not share, is customary to call terrorist organizations "leftist". Attempts to insult me, calling me a "bot", show only your stupidity and lack of arguments in a dispute with me.
                        Quote: timokhin-aa
                        He remembers the USSR.
                        Apparently, you were not in the project then.

                        I was born in 1969, and I remember the late USSR, with its advantages and disadvantages well. And leave your "guesses" with you.
          2. 3danimal
            3danimal 16 November 2020 13: 19
            -1
            What are you all about bombs .. Would like to plow, it is safe for yourself - mid 90s - Welkam.
            But no, they gave loans and humanitarian aid. And yet, which many have forgotten, they contributed in every way to the transfer of nuclear weapons from the former republics of the Russian Federation.
            The main argument: from a collapsed / bombed nuclear power, weapons will go to the black market. To the delight of the Islamists.
            IMHO, these fears are a relic of the Cold War, the ideological pumping of the Soviet era, which has now been shifted to a more "nationalist" track.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 16 November 2020 13: 34
              -1
              Quote: 3danimal
              IMHO, these fears are a relic of the Cold War, the ideological pumping of the Soviet era, which has now been shifted to a more "nationalist" track.

              Unfortunately, these fears are caused by the entire course of Russian history. Somewhere from the time of Vasily III, father of Ivan the Terrible. First it was Europe, then America appeared. A good example is China, during the Opium Wars.
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 16 November 2020 14: 55
                0
                Somewhere since the time of Basil III

                Stupidity.
                Let's also remember the Mongols, evaluate their actions from the perspective of a conspiracy against us 2000 years ago smile
                There were regular wars in Europe. 100 years old, 30 years old. The usual thing.
                then America appeared

                So what?
                China, during the Opium Wars.

                Tough imperial policy of the 19th century. He paid for his backwardness.
                Now the conditions are somewhat different.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 16 November 2020 16: 24
                  -1
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  Tough imperial policy of the 19th century. He paid for his backwardness.
                  Now the conditions are somewhat different.

                  Libya, Iraq, Syria - a tough imperial policy of the 20th century? Have you paid for your backwardness? Nothing changes, imperialism has not gone anywhere.
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  Stupidity.
                  Let's also remember the Mongols, evaluate their actions from the perspective of a conspiracy against us 2000 years ago

                  The Mongol yoke played a huge role in the history of Russia's development, both negative and positive. Dialectics however. You may laugh, but the current state structure in Russia is directly related to the Mongol conquest. This is a very voluminous topic, it is out of place here. Want to take a look at the lecture, there is some material about the formation of the state and the external influence on it.
                  1. 3danimal
                    3danimal 16 November 2020 18: 47
                    +1
                    Libya, Iraq, Syria - tough imperial policy of the 20th century

                    How is Iraq doing now? There is a government that does a good job (it turned out that without Hussein there are many who are capable of running the country)
                    Libya has a Civil War. The UN-recognized government and the rebellious Haftar supported (for some reason) by us (we are also imperialists smile ).
                    The examples of these weakling countries have nothing to do with us. None of these nonentities is even close to the Russian Federation, its level of weapons.
                    The Mongol yoke played a huge role in the history of the development of Russia, both negative and positive.

                    Reminds of recommendations for victims of burglars: "any experience is useful" smile
                    The Novgorod model of the device is closer to me.
                    The Mongolian one brought us hundreds of years of serfdom.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 16 November 2020 18: 57
                      -2
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      The Mongolian one brought us hundreds of years of serfdom.

                      She also brought us such a huge country. Partly the first Socialist state.
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      How is Iraq doing now?

                      Under "external control", in your opinion, is this an example for us?
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      The examples of these weakling countries have nothing to do with us. None of these nonentities is even close to the Russian Federation, its level of weapons.

                      Soon, with our economy, we will slide down to their level.
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 16 November 2020 21: 45
                        0
                        Partly the first Socialist state.

                        Rome was even bigger. But not everyone was happy to live in it. Many were second-class people or slaves. The state should be for the people, but not for the sake of the "empire".
                        Let me also remind you that Soviet ideology condemned both Igo and RI and separated itself from the latter.
                      2. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 16 November 2020 21: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Rome was even bigger. But not everyone was happy to live in it. Many were second-class people or slaves. The state should be for the people, but not for the sake of the "empire".
                        Let me also remind you that Soviet ideology condemned both Igo and RI and separated itself from the latter.

                        Sorry, but I did not understand the main point of your comment. What did you want to say?
                      3. 3danimal
                        3danimal 17 November 2020 00: 48
                        0
                        What did you want to say?

                        She also brought us such a huge country. Partly the first Socialist state.

                        I wanted to say that size is not an end in itself, which justifies any means. We also need development.
                        In fact, we were colossally behind by the end of the 17th century. The first university was opened in 1755. (And many more examples.)
                        A "socialist state" can arise in any territory.
                      4. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 17 November 2020 01: 22
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        In fact, we were colossally behind by the end of the 17th century. The first university was opened in 1755. (And many more examples.)

                        In fact, we are colossally behind even at a time when our ancestors Drevlyans and Dregovichi are different, chose cold forests and swamps as their permanent residence, instead of the warm wreckage of the Roman Empire, with a ready-made infrastructure. But seriously, we developed in our own conditions and this has shaped us as a nation and a state. We are who we are. We will not be like the Germans, or the French, or the Chinese. Have we lagged behind and in what exactly have we lagged behind and in what have we surpassed? All these questions are very controversial. After all, you must agree with me that our "lagging behind" made it possible to create the most advanced and social state, put man into space, get the best social guarantees for the majority of the population and practically catch up with the leading countries of the world, and this in a couple of generations.
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        I wanted to say that size is not an end in itself, which justifies any means. We also need development.

                        Size is not an end in itself, but it is a great advantage and, at the same time, an "envy" for neighboring states. Everything is relative.
                      5. 3danimal
                        3danimal 17 November 2020 01: 49
                        +1
                        when our ancestors Drevlyans and Dregovichs are different, they chose cold forests and swamps as their permanent residence

                        The climate is to blame smile
                        The Swedes have paradise conditions, the first university was opened in 1477 request
                        Excuses ..
                        Have we lagged behind and in what exactly have we lagged behind, and in what have we surpassed?

                        China, too, in some ways, perhaps surpassed the British in the 19th century (in the unique cultural features?). But not in the ability to protect yourself.
                        allowed to create the most advanced and social state

                        On the way, ditching 10 million in civilian life, exchanging several million who died of starvation in the 1930s for American factories, shooting (officially only) more than 600 thousand people in 30 years (compare with British statistics on executions) and burying a hitherto unknown number of prisoners of the camps.
                        The forest is cut - the chips fly ..
                        take a man into space ... and practically catch up with the leading countries of the world

                        That is, you have to lag behind in order to catch up later? And in the end, by an accelerated course (enduring a lot of hardships), they went the SAME way: education, science.
                        Not magic schools instead of universities, mind you.
                      6. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 17 November 2020 13: 11
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        The Swedes have paradise conditions

                        And you type "Skone climate" in Google, the conditions there are better than in the Krasnodar Territory. You forget about the proximity to the sea and warm currents.
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        the first university was opened in 1477

                        This did not stop Peter the Great from putting an end to the imperial ambitions of Sweden.
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Excuses ..

                        What are you speaking about? After all, I said that there are no identical nations and states.
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        China, too, in some ways, perhaps surpassed the British in the 19th century (in the unique cultural features?). But not in the ability to protect yourself.

                        China had this shameful page in history. Believe me, they have not forgotten her, they do not forget anything. Can anyone do it now?
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        On the way, ditching 10 million in civilian life, exchanging several million who died of starvation in the 1930s for American factories, shooting (officially only) more than 600 thousand people in 30 years (compare with British statistics on executions) and burying a hitherto unknown number of prisoners of the camps.
                        The forest is cut - the chips fly ..

                        Let's not quote the perestroika magazine "Ogonyok", about millions who died of starvation, etc. Let's start with the fact that the change in the socio-economic formation, colloquially called "Revolution" happened on our planet more than once. I will not speak here either about the Neolithic revolution, or about the formation of the first slaveholding states, which, undoubtedly, was a change in the socio-economic formation. Tell me, how many victims did the destruction of the Western Roman Empire and the formation of the first feudal states entail? How many people have died of starvation or other deaths? Bourgeois revolutions in Europe, as a change in the socio-economic formation, began at the end of the twelfth century with the Italian commercial republics and ended only at the end of the nineteenth century. You taught the history of Europe at school, can you name the number of victims of bourgeois revolutions? It so happened that it was our country that had the honor to build the first socialist state. This is a socio-economic formation following capitalism, history cannot be stopped, it may be possible to slow it down, but it cannot be stopped. Will there be more revolutions? Undoubtedly they will. Will they be bloodless? Answer this question yourself.
            2. 3danimal
              3danimal 17 November 2020 00: 36
              0
              About the external administration of Iraq.
              (By the way, for some countries it is even useful, for a while - Nazi Germany, Japan after 1945).
              https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1254870
              The Iraqi government does not seem to be twisting its arms. And they make decisions in the interests of Iraq (with regards to deductions from oil production, in this example).
            3. Igoresha
              Igoresha 17 November 2020 17: 56
              0
              they make decisions in the interests of Iraq


              and even bought Russian weapons, who would have thought
            4. 3danimal
              3danimal 17 November 2020 19: 02
              0
              Including.
              It turns out (based on the facts) that the main goal of the United States was the overthrow of the Hussein regime and the termination of Iraq's stay as one of the hotbeds of tension in the region. Without "capture of the Earth and oil".
  • timokhin-aa
    19 November 2020 12: 05
    -1
    But no, they gave loans and humanitarian aid.


    This is exactly the mistake they are going to fix. If you look at the pace of a number of their military programs, then somewhere in 2027-2029 approximately
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 19 November 2020 16: 25
      0
      This is exactly the mistake they are going to fix.

      Mistake - hopes that the Russian Federation will abandon imperial aspirations?
      If you look at the pace of a number of their military programs, then somewhere in 2027-2029 approximately

      Military programs are also weapons modernization, by the way.
      What matters, for example, is the number of American troops in Europe. Even now, it is several times less than in 1990.
      Look here: nobody "solves" the small (but problematic) North Korea. Even in the 90s, when the Kim dynasty did not have nuclear weapons, there were no military actions against them. Although it is quite capable of and with relatively small losses.
      You are saying that countries that maximally avoid losses among their population, which did NOT undertake hostile military actions against the Russian Federation during the period of its maximum weakening, will certainly attack in the near future, when even in a conventional war, large losses are expected?
      And this does not include one of the world's largest arsenals of nuclear weapons. The remains of which, in the event of a military defeat of the Russian Federation, will quickly end up on the black market, to the delight of bearded people from the Middle Ages.
      And I will repeat the question: where in the United States is that fanatic-dictator-adventurer who is capable of neglecting his subjects (who have NOT elected him citizens) for the sake of ideologically motivated aggression?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 15 November 2020 15: 34
    +4
    Layouts, layouts, but life still makes its own adjustments ...
    You can try to encircle the bear, but this is a risky business, especially when the bear is seasoned and does not sleep.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 15 November 2020 22: 29
      +1
      And it seems to me that our bear cannot even bark, it only hums something about "concern". When Gromyko expressed his foreign policy, everyone heard the "roar" of the bear, and when Lavrov does it, I only hear the hum.
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 16 November 2020 18: 50
        -2
        The roar would be more audible if our weapons confidently dealt with Azerbaijani drones.
        In fact, they missed the revolution in military affairs. They hoped for omnipotent electronic warfare systems, etc.
      2. Igoresha
        Igoresha 17 November 2020 17: 56
        0
        Gromyka's children in the west did not live, unlike Putin and Lavrov
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 15 November 2020 16: 08
    +8
    Pashinyan, without doing ANYTHING, actively provoked Azerbaijan and severed ties with the Russian Federation - all at the same time.

    But what has Pashinyan or someone else to do with it? For:
    Let's look at the situation with the eyes of Azerbaijanis. The return of Karabakh, and especially the territories of Azerbaijan around it, was a fix idea, a "karmic debt" for all Azerbaijanis
    1. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 15 November 2020 16: 22
      +4
      And why minus? It's a classic - if in Act 1 there is a gun hanging on the wall ...
  • maktub
    maktub 15 November 2020 16: 12
    +3
    Alexander, I will add information so to speak in the catch-up
    Former Ambassador to Turkey Richard Moore appointed new head of MI6
    Zelensky meets with new head of MI6 during his visit to London
    New head of MI6 pays first visit to Ankara
    In Moldova: - An unprecedented turnout is observed in the second round of presidential elections in Moldova
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 15 November 2020 16: 28
      +4
      Quote: maktub
      Alexander, I will add information so to speak in the catch-up
      Former Ambassador to Turkey Richard Moore appointed new head of MI6

      This is about Turkey versus Europe. Turkey is against France and Greece. For England, a direct ally. Partner for Italy and Germany.
      1. maktub
        maktub 15 November 2020 17: 01
        +3
        I agree completely
      2. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 15 November 2020 21: 40
        -3
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        For England, a direct ally


        Do you deduce this from the appointment of the Turkish ambassador to MI6?
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 15 November 2020 21: 41
          -1
          No. There are a lot of reasons.
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 15 November 2020 21: 50
            -2
            And besides the diplomatically empty statement from Twitter? Any real cooperation that you have with England but not with France?
    2. timokhin-aa
      15 November 2020 20: 56
      +2
      Thank. Interesting information.
    3. maktub
      maktub 15 November 2020 22: 42
      +2
      The first exit polls for the elections in Moldova appeared. Maia Sandu wins
  • parusnik
    parusnik 15 November 2020 16: 25
    +6
    War is primarily a continuation of domestic politics. Pashinyan. Uncle came to power, but what to do with it? Reforms to improve the lives of the people cannot be carried out, the "chief" did not order. The situation inside is such that for a year or two the people will take to the streets. What to do? The war, it will write off everything. We will win, the chair will not wobble, we will not win, there is also something to refer to or someone to distract people from "bad" thoughts. Transnistria. Even if Dodon is thrown off, everything is not as simple as the author writes. - there will be no drop on Ukraine. But when half-hearted decisions are made, they do not end well. And lastly, when the USSR was falling apart, it was assumed that each piece would have its own master, with the support of local nationalists. What is being done. Nationalists, on the territory of the former USSR , created a new economic union of the CIS and what happened is the Commonwealth of Poor States. There are states, no commonwealth, but it is not needed when almost everyone has a curator. But pride for the country is driven into their brains. We are against the whole world. Hurray. world? Capitalist Russia, against the capitalist world? Russian capitalists who have all the best abroad, bills, real estate will "wet" those who keep their values? Do not make me laugh...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 15 November 2020 17: 14
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      But pride for the country is hammered into their brains. We are against the whole world. Hurray. Against what world? Capitalist Russia, against the capitalist world?

      Have you read the article? At least in the text, at least in the meaning, just proceeding from the emerging realities, it turns out so far that this is not Russia against the capitalist world, but the capitalist world against Russia.
      Quote: parusnik
      Russian capitalists who have all the best abroad, bills, real estate will "wet" those who keep their values? Do not make me laugh...

      The morning began on the collective farm. If this, which has set the teeth on edge, the thought on the site will not be voiced 101 times a day, then the day has passed in vain. Maybe you will at least somehow try to weed out through the political sieve these same "foreign money keeping and their chadotamified" from those who consider themselves to be statists and, contrary to your convictions, have not yet surrendered Russia with giblets? Well, what could be simpler than to come to an agreement behind the scenes and ask for a couple of tens of billions of compensation, citizenship and security guarantees for yourself and your family, becoming like Hunchback and EBN and giving the Russian Federation to retire to retire to love Russia from beyond the hill? Nothing prevents them from doing this, but no, they resist. Another question is that more and more people are more likely to run up against something that has already happened, rather than to prevent the development of negative scenarios for Russia. Here, yes, we are losing.
      Quote: parusnik
      Transnistria. Even if Dodon is thrown off, not everything is as simple as the author writes. There will be no march to Ukraine.
      I would not be so optimistic. In the event that our peacekeeping contingent is put under attack in Transnistria, we simply have no choice but to cut the corridor. Ukraine along the way, the shortest way.
      1. Pilot
        Pilot 15 November 2020 18: 23
        +1
        Well, what could be simpler than to come to an agreement behind the scenes and ask for a couple of tens of billions of compensation, citizenship and security guarantees for yourself and your family, becoming like Hunchback and EBN and giving the Russian Federation to retire to retire to love Russia from behind the hill? Nothing prevents them from doing this, but no, they resist. Another question is that more and more people are more likely to resist as something more on the fact of what has happened than before,
        Nyrobsky, what do you think would have happened in the country in the early 2000s. if the uncontrolled accelerated robbery of the 90s continued? winked
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 15 November 2020 20: 28
          +1
          Quote: Pilot
          Nyrobsky, what do you think would have happened in the country in the early 2000s. if the uncontrolled accelerated robbery of the 90s continued?

          Weird question? If the same process continued as in the 90s, then we would now discuss how to fold out of four squares, on which four letters "Ж", "P", "O", "A" the word "HAPPINESS". However, what happens after the 2000s gives other, initial options, from which it is possible to collect, if not HAPPINESS, then GOOD. The problem is that many simply do not want to take into account the appearance of new squares and constantly use the original version. hi
          1. Pilot
            Pilot 15 November 2020 21: 07
            +4
            Hmm, now it is clear why you have such thoughts in your quote above. You completely exclude a return to socialism (as a maximum, a nightmare of the cap. Of the world) and at least a cruel and merciless revolt and anarchy in the event of an uncontrolled accelerated robbery a la 90s. A huge country with nuclear weapons and a Soviet adult population is not a brewery that can be immediately given to the bukharikam - no one in the world needs such hemorrhoids (or rather, its possible consequences) with uncontrolled rapid tearing, even the impudent Yankees realized this in the late 90s - it can be more expensive go out for them. From here follow dances two steps forward, two or three steps back, slowly and imperceptibly, or as you put it, they often rest on the fact, and not before, Something like this. hi
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 15 November 2020 21: 38
              -3
              Quote: Pilot
              Hmm, now it is clear why you have such thoughts in your quote above. You completely rule out a return to socialism (as a maximum, a nightmare cap. Of the world) but at least a violent and merciless revolt and anarchy in the event of an uncontrolled accelerated robbery a la 90s.

              In general, I do not find any connection in my comments with any rebellion, especially with a cruel and merciless one. I just pointed out that, fortunately for most, the time of the 90s, when the majority had 4 cubes with the mentioned letters, is over, and since 2000 there is a prospect for the best option.
              Quote: Pilot
              A huge country with nuclear weapons and a Soviet adult population is not a brewery that can be immediately given to the bukharikam - no one in the world needs such hemorrhoids [/ b] (more precisely, its possible consequences) with uncontrolled rapid tearing is not needed, even the impudent Yankees understood at the end 90s may be more expensive for them. From here follow dances two steps forward, two or three steps back, slowly and imperceptibly, or as you put it, they often rest on the fact, and not before, Something like this.
              Ahem belay Eka your thought from 18.23 to 21.07 managed to transform !!! Why is this? sad
              1. Pilot
                Pilot 15 November 2020 21: 48
                +1
                Come on and difficult you laughing don’t know how easy it is to get through. In the morning, read more, maybe it will come to you why you can't immediately leave the country for torn hi
      2. Azis
        Azis 15 November 2020 20: 43
        -1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Quote: parusnik
        But pride for the country is hammered into their brains. We are against the whole world. Hurray. Against what world? Capitalist Russia, against the capitalist world?

        ... this is not Russia against the capitalist world, but the capitalist world against Russia ...
        Change of places of terms ...
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Quote: parusnik
        Russian capitalists who have all the best abroad, bills, real estate will "wet" those who keep their values? Do not make me laugh...

        Maybe you will at least somehow try to weed out through the political sieve these same "foreign money keeping and their chadotamified" from those who consider themselves to be statists and, contrary to your convictions, have not surrendered Russia to this very time?
        Who are these "statists"? Have names? What is better - to sell the property, having received some amount once, or to rent it out, receiving a guaranteed income + get a loan on its security, while remaining the nominal owner of the property? This is probably why your "statesmen", "to this day have not surrendered Russia with giblets."
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 15 November 2020 21: 25
          0
          Quote: Azis
          Change of places of terms ...

          However, the meaning is completely different.
          Quote: Azis
          Who are these "statists"? Have names? What is better - to sell the property, having received some amount once, or to rent it out, receiving a guaranteed income + get a loan on its security, while remaining the nominal owner of the property?

          The formula you propose suited Misha Mechenny and all those young reformers headed by Gaidar. This approach is suitable for the short term, but as practice shows, Gaidar and EBN could not use it in the long term and are now routinely rotting in the churchyard. Concerning Russia, where sometimes events take place that can put the whole world on the ears, this option is not suitable.
          Quote: Azis
          This is probably why your "statesmen", "to this day have not surrendered Russia with giblets."

          Not. Not okay. It's just that the female kind of liberal dogs managed to drag Russia into some obligations (constitutionally, legislatively, economically and financially) that do not allow cutting these knots at once and they have to be eliminated according to the formula two steps forward, one back, simultaneously cutting off the superstructure of the "tadpoles" included in the nomenclature of our sworn "friends".
          1. Azis
            Azis 15 November 2020 22: 33
            -1
            Gaidar and EBN in the long term could not use it and now routinely rot in the churchyard
            They just didn’t live and therefore couldn’t, others are well and enjoy.
            they have to be eliminated according to the formula two steps forward, one step back, simultaneously cutting off the superstructure of the "tadpoles" included in the nomenclature of our sworn "friends"
            PostEBNovskoe board somewhere lost its feet, took an extra step back, but about the "cut of the superstructure", except for the redistribution of property, somehow forgotten.
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 15 November 2020 16: 27
    +9
    But something else is much more important - like Navalny, Pashinyan had foreign patrons.
    Damn, the author, Navalny has the main patrons in Russia, otherwise they would have jailed long ago, like Udaltsov, Demushkin, Platoshkin and many others, both left and right.
    The second option is, as Putin promised to do, if Ukraine provokes an aggravation of the war in Donbass during the FIFA World Cup, liquidate Ukrainian statehood and break through the "corridor" in Transnistria along the ground. Throughout Ukraine.
    When did Putin promise to do this ?! wassat
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 15 November 2020 17: 01
      +7
      Damn, the author, Navalny has the main patrons in Russia
      ... At the same time, the patrons themselves promote it ... smile
  • Runway
    Runway 15 November 2020 17: 01
    +5
    Analysis implies impartiality as a minimum. No labels and no propaganda statements.
    The author only hypes.
    Pulling Pridnestrovie by the ears and broadcasting about war in those parts (where there is a shortage of "peacekeepers" and 50% of those living have Russian citizenship) is opportunistic game.
    1. timokhin-aa
      15 November 2020 20: 01
      +1
      There were also peacekeepers and Russian citizens in South Ossetia.
      1. Runway
        Runway 16 November 2020 00: 55
        +3
        This is what we are talking about. Everyone knows how the epic ended. Moldovans, of course, are Moldovans, but not so much Moldovans that, with the parity of CC and PMR, they can sit on a hedgehog. The current arrangement with the new pro-Western President of Moldova will probably arouse the Romanian spirit, but no more.
        Voinushka requires funds, with which both in Moldova and Romania are not very good.
        1. timokhin-aa
          16 November 2020 12: 45
          +2
          This question did not prevent the war from BEGINNING. You are confusing "the enemy can attack" and "the enemy can win". They are not the same thing.
  • Asad
    Asad 15 November 2020 17: 07
    +1
    Can someone answer the question, is there in Armenia about the Russian political forces that can take power into their own hands?
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 15 November 2020 17: 12
    +9
    The author's message is clear, but unfortunately time does not stand ... Yes, there are enemies all around ..., but the main enemy is sitting in the Kremlin ... The main enemy is the internal one - the Russian State ...
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 15 November 2020 17: 41
    -6
    I cried, Signor Pereira, I cried))) I especially liked the passage about Aliyev's "karmic and esoteric torments"))) I wouldn’t say right away that Aliyev (Erdogan) needed to urgently raise his extremely low ratings and a small, fast, victorious war, in this regard, was the best possible. However, they wanted the best, but it turned out, as always. The war was neither quick nor easy, and it is better to remain silent about the "victory" that is being celebrated in Baku. Soon the euphoria from "victory" will pass, and empty refrigerators will remain. It is possible that "200" and "300" will continue to come from the liberated territories. I think we'll see all of this soon.
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 15 November 2020 17: 49
    +7
    On November 13, the Turkish parliament began drafting a resolution giving Ankara a legal basis to send units of the Turkish armed forces to Nagorno-Karabakh as part of a memorandum on the creation of a joint Russian-Turkish center to control the ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is also preparing to sign this resolution, which will set out information about the location of the Turkish army in Nagorno-Karabakh and how it will act. It was reported by the Turkish news agency Sabah.
    You see how good it is. After all, for someone the Sultan and the Janissaries are a partner. They trade with him and buy mansions in London and drink tea with the Queen. Well, we, as always, are noodles about the love of native shores. Nothing new.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 15 November 2020 21: 48
      -2
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      On November 13, the Turkish parliament began drafting a resolution giving Ankara a legal basis to send units of the Turkish armed forces to Nagorno-Karabakh as part of a memorandum on the creation of a joint Russian-Turkish center to control the ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is also preparing to sign this resolution, which will set out information about the location of the Turkish army in Nagorno-Karabakh and how it will act. It was reported by the Turkish news agency Sabah.
      You see how good it is. After all, for someone the Sultan and the Janissaries are a partner. They trade with him and buy mansions in London and drink tea with the Queen. Well, we, as always, are noodles about the love of native shores. Nothing new.

      Well, finally, Old Fuck you have a holiday! Take care of the tambourine so as not to break prematurely. You can say anything you want, but realize? .....
  • BAI
    BAI 15 November 2020 18: 01
    +9
    The most important result of Karabakh is that Ukraine in Donbas will kick up with renewed vigor.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 November 2020 18: 39
    +9
    Deafening analysis, enemies are everywhere. The main enemy of Russia is Pashinyan. Lukashenka won't go to bed yet, so that the Russians won't spit in the pans. Kindergarten. The Kremlin is never responsible for anything. Do they see Pashinyan offended.
    For example, I was offended by Nabiullina, is it possible to bring peacekeepers to the Central Bank?
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 15 November 2020 19: 07
      +8
      Well, the author in a light form hinted that the top waved the first sparks of the incipient conflict (mnogohodovka west), this is when the Sorosian coup perpetrated .. more precisely, even before the coup.
      Russia, unfortunately, missed the opportunity to solve the problem "inexpensively". Now we will get stuck there, and the Turkish influence will only increase. Nothing can be done now: we missed this blow. Will we miss the next one?
      And so yes, offense, they are not responsible for anything .. and other, other delights of the yard. hi
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 15 November 2020 19: 23
      +6
      Quote: Gardamir
      For example, I was offended by Nabiullina, is it possible to bring peacekeepers to the Central Bank?
      Yes. Enter.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 15 November 2020 19: 38
        +4
        Yes.
        You discussed Tu 160, why were you distracted by me?
        1. bk0010
          bk0010 15 November 2020 19: 49
          +4
          Quote: Gardamir
          You discussed Tu 160, why were you distracted by me?
          I liked the idea. Maybe you will be the Nabiullina council.
  • AleBors
    AleBors 15 November 2020 19: 05
    0
    So I say that the message of this militaristic movement in Europe is not for nothing. I'd like to believe that our management adequately assesses the situation.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 November 2020 00: 15
      +3
      There is no militaristic movement in Europe.
      Europe is busy with covid, economic crisis, Brexit.
      There is no money for the war. As Trump did not press on them, he did not squeeze money.
      And now Trump is gone.
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 15 November 2020 19: 28
    +1
    we know where the enemy will strike next time. This is Transnistria.


    How do we know this? The report lists dozens of measures. By the way, who will "hit" in Transnistria and, most importantly, why do they need it?
  • dgonni
    dgonni 15 November 2020 19: 43
    0
    I alone have a question WHY TO BEAT THE CORRIDOR TO TRANSNISTRIA?
    1. timokhin-aa
      15 November 2020 20: 00
      +1
      In the event of a blockade?
      1. dgonni
        dgonni 15 November 2020 20: 28
        -1
        What blockade is that? At the moment, in fact, the Russian contingent can be supplied with military nomenclature and rotate only by air!
        Blockade? We cut the corridor?
        Transport went and will go. As they traded with Ukraine and Moldova, they will trade.
        P.S. An attempt to cut a corridor through Ukraine will result in huge losses and not only in manpower and equipment. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are not 5-7 thousand types of combat-ready soldiers with equipment that was in warehouses with water instead of soyarka in tanks. This is 150 thousand combat-ready army and another 350-400 thousand of the reserve of those who have gone through the war.
        For the economic and political consequences, I just keep silent.
        From the disconnection of Russia from the swift system to the transition to the principle of oil and gas in exchange for food. Blocking all assets and money in accounts is a given. And there are those who want to squeeze out a competitor from the oil and gas market. Moreover, it is priceless with the hands of the competitor himself!
        How long will the budget and the population last after that? A maximum of a year and a half is correct.
        1. timokhin-aa
          15 November 2020 20: 47
          +2
          We return to the introduction from the article. Maia Sandu won the election and declared a blockade by Moldova, inviting Romanian troops to "support".
          Zelensky supported.
          Now imagine that you are the President of the Russian Federation.
          What to do in such a situation.
          1. dgonni
            dgonni 15 November 2020 21: 19
            +2
            Well, I won well, I invited the Rumeneshtov for the blockade. The Rumenesti sent her to a known address because they are in NATO! And they cannot wander around with their troops at their own discretion. Well, even now Ukraine is not delighted with Transnistria and there is no transportation of military equipment and personnel by land. No one is hot or cold.
            P.S. Local Duc generally live in Transnistria have Moldovan passports and work in Europe. Many are married and married across the border. Which is actually purely conventional. If no one will pedal the situation, then after 7-12 Transnistria will quietly return to Moldova. The Moldovans have no wild desire to lie under the Romanians. So you can breathe out quickly.
            P.S. 2. Shrieks and snot about Dodon are being poured by the Kremlin courtyards who have poured overm dough into him and jointly sawed him essno. And on the way out, having received nothing, which is natural for the laws of economics have not been canceled.
          2. Runway
            Runway 16 November 2020 14: 52
            0
            Is Moldova like a parliamentary republic?
        2. Liam
          Liam 15 November 2020 21: 27
          +1
          Quote: dgonni
          The Russian contingent can be supplied with military nomenclature and rotate only by air!

          Whose airspace and which airport?)
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 15 November 2020 21: 56
            +1
            There is an airfield in Tiraspol.
            1. Liam
              Liam 15 November 2020 21: 59
              +7
              No.
              After 2014, there is no rotation. By the proud name of the Russian group in the PMR, several hundred local boys are hiding who were issued with Russian passports.
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 15 November 2020 19: 44
    +5
    "But, if we happened to get there, we would have to fight not only with Azerbaijan, but also with Turkey, and not only in Transcaucasia. And we were absolutely not ready for this, we are not ready now" - and when we in general are we ready for war? All our problems in various spheres from underestimating the role of strategic analytics in matters of public administration, the Americans will not take a step without a serious analysis and will not make a decision, but we do not want to learn from the enemy, from which we conclude, either this is ordinary Russian bungling, or a betrayal of national interests, and when the rooster bites in one place of our rulers, plan B is introduced - we leave on our soldiers and officers
  • 123456789
    123456789 15 November 2020 20: 52
    0
    Everything will follow the Georgian scenario
  • Karabin
    Karabin 15 November 2020 20: 52
    +9
    The second option is, as Putin promised to do, if Ukraine provokes an aggravation of the war in Donbass during the FIFA World Cup, liquidate Ukrainian statehood and break through the "corridor" in Transnistria along the ground. Throughout Ukraine.

    And why should Putin and Co Transnistria? And why the corridor? And Donbass? They would not have taken Crimea if they had calculated the consequences. This audience works for their own pocket, and the national interest is not even secondary. And the corridor was opened in 14 year, it just required a decisive step.
    1. timokhin-aa
      15 November 2020 23: 28
      -1
      Of course, they did not calculate the consequences in Crimea. You already know!
  • zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 16 November 2020 00: 18
    +3
    I usually read Alexander Timokhin's articles with pleasure. But what was it? negative Dear author, please do not meddle in politics and do not slide down to the level of propagandists. On the site and without you, there is someone to stigmatize internal and external enemies.
    1. Svateev
      Svateev 16 November 2020 12: 33
      +1
      Quote: zyablik.olga
      Dear author, please don't get involved in politics

      Leave politics to you, Olenka ?! Don't take on a lot?
  • locos
    locos 16 November 2020 08: 37
    +1
    And what will happen if Ukraine does not support the blockade of Transnistria?
    1. timokhin-aa
      16 November 2020 12: 46
      -1
      Then nothing special will happen.
  • ccsr
    ccsr 16 November 2020 13: 42
    +2
    Author:
    Alexander Timokhin
    Karabakh 2020 and our future wars.

    From the entire article, it was not possible to understand what our future wars will be and what we need to prepare for in our armed forces and the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. In short, a catchy headline and, in fact, the usual retelling of journalistic articles, with a hint of some exclusivity. In general, another shot into the void ...
    1. timokhin-aa
      19 November 2020 12: 07
      -2
      I could not understand


      For you, this is most likely the norm. You don't usually get it.
  • Sunstorm
    Sunstorm 16 November 2020 19: 08
    +2
    By the way, while you are saving Moldova ... if you lose Belarus, you should not run in the footsteps of the enemy, trying not to let him go further ... the enemy should be beaten ahead of the curve, if you have to sacrifice something, so be it, but better yourself choose a battlefield and possible victims.
    Sorry for the banality.
    But which of these pain points is of real value to the RF? Armenia ... a dubious asset cut off by Georgia (the situation cannot be resolved). Transnistria is a dubious asset cut off by Ukraine (the situation cannot be resolved). Central Asian republics - wait a little longer and the situation there will not be solved ... thanks to the Taliban, Iran and the Turks ... and even China. Belarus - at the moment there are decisions, but this is clearly not the support of the AGL ... which is "multi-vector", but the creation of pro-Russian parties and their support from the territory of the Russian Federation.
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 November 2020 13: 17
      0
      Direct and overt support can go badly for such a pro-Russian party. Here it is necessary to act thinner, and thinner - it is much more difficult, with us now it is unlikely they will pull this.
  • Mmm.
    Mmm. 16 November 2020 23: 35
    +1
    Who will take what measures? VVP speaks beautifully like a cat purrs, but in the end everything is negative on all fronts.
  • 3danimal
    3danimal 17 November 2020 00: 53
    0
    About "who is right" ..
    I came across a video (90s), where the Armenian military dictate into a megaphone "Azerbaijani residents have 15 ... minutes to get together and get away".
    (Food for thought)
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 17 November 2020 01: 32
      0
      Clarification: video from 1993 from Kelbajar, the time for training was given 10 hours.
  • Alexander Lysenko
    Alexander Lysenko 17 November 2020 12: 57
    0
    Uv. Timokhin! Judging by the media, there is interest in the elections in Moldova. Maybe those at the top understand these layouts? So what do we care, by and large, to this Moldova ... Or are my glasses too pink? Although understanding and doing something are different things ...
  • Kara
    Kara 17 November 2020 19: 32
    -1
    Forewarned is forearmed. It is necessary to strain the British with amers wink
  • alma
    alma 18 November 2020 14: 06
    12
    Now we will keep 2000 soldiers in Karabakh

    You can look at it from the other side ... Our presence is expanding, which is also not bad. And presence is not always free. But I agree with the author - we had to react to the situation, not create it.
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 November 2020 13: 12
      0
      Having troops (bases, peacekeepers, etc.) in a land enclave is not a bonus, but a permanent headache. Armenia, Transnistria are among those. Georgia's refusal to allow Russian military cargo during the Karabakh conflict, which called into question any military effectiveness of our 102nd base (whatever the stocks of property, they are finite), clearly demonstrated this to everyone.
  • kakvastam
    kakvastam 19 November 2020 17: 44
    0
    But if Sandu really wins the elections (it doesn't matter honestly or not), then Russia will not be able to feed the Russian population of Transnistria to someone (Romanians, for example), it will be an internal political catastrophe.


    Approximately the same illusions existed in relation to the Russian population of Donbass.
    There will be no "internal political catastrophe", the population will happily take any noodles on their ears, "if only there is no war," and will continue to praise the wisdom of the leadership and personally of Mr. Putin. Not the first time.
  • UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 22 November 2020 13: 06
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    Three months after the appointment of the British President Sargsyan, a revolution broke out in Yerevan. The reason for this was the attempt of the former president, hated by the people Serzh Sargsyan, to "climb" into the prime ministers, in violation of his own promises not to do so.

    I would like to ask a question: why so often does Russia have to put on such "pro-Russian" politicians, hated by their own peoples, breaking their own promises, not even knowing how to win the elections without first arresting and jailing all their competitors? Why are there no other pro-Russian politicians - respected and loved by their peoples, with a consistent agenda approved by the electorate, known for their habit of keeping their word? Maybe it's not just Soros and the machinations of the Anglo-Saxons?
  • lelik613
    lelik613 22 November 2020 17: 44
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    I would like to emphasize the task of analyzing the defeat of tanks and air defense systems by drones. Let's say a polygon that has shown trends.