Reply to the Ambassador of Azerbaijan from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: If "war is like war", then the answer for the helicopter would be crushing

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Reply to the Ambassador of Azerbaijan from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: If "war is like war", then the answer for the helicopter would be crushing

Azerbaijani and Russian politicians and representatives of the bureaucratic corps speak about the statement made by the Ambassador of Azerbaijan to the Russian Federation Polad Bulbul-oglu on the strike on the Mi-24. Recall that the blow was struck at the Russian helicopter at the moment when it was in the airspace of Armenia, about two hundred kilometers from the combat zone in Nagorno-Karabakh. The ambassador, commenting on the attack with the use of MANPADS, said literally the following: "In war as in war", and tried to reduce the actions of the calculation to "military action", "nervous" situation and so on.

Assistant to the Azerbaijani President Hikmet Hajiyev, commenting on the words of Polad Bulbul-oglu, said that the ambassador's statements were inappropriate and added that such statements could harm the relations between the two countries.



The statement of the Azerbaijani ambassador (he is also a well-known Azerbaijani tenor and doctor of art history) was not ignored by the Russian Foreign Ministry.

The Russian Foreign Ministry, commenting on Bulbul-oglu's statement, said (quotes from RIA News) that if everything really boiled down to the situation "in war as in war", then "the response for the helicopter would be crushing." It is added that Russia has accepted the apology of official Baku and continues to expect an objective investigation from the Azerbaijani side.

The Russian authorities also expect to bring those responsible for the attack on the Russian helicopter to justice.

The aide to the Azerbaijani president noted that Azerbaijani diplomats and politicians should refrain from statements that contradict the official position of Baku.
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  1. -27
    13 November 2020 06: 18
    An emotional statement from the ambassador, just words. You don't need to focus your attention on them so much.
    We must seek Investigation and Punishment of those responsible for the death of Our Warriors!
    1. -5
      13 November 2020 06: 39
      With the Ambassador-Singer-Composer, everything is clear - he is a creative person, but once again I am amazed by the rhetoric of the Foreign Ministry for its harshness. This is no expression of American concern! laughing
      But Armenia is not just a neighbor, Armenia is our ally in the CSTO and the answer had to be completely different from Russia - for example, carpet bombing of the front edge of the Azerbaijani army! Yes, after that, minor difficulties could arise in relations with Baku, but the world respects the strong and loyal to their allied duty, and not concerned ones like Dziuba ...!
      1. +11
        13 November 2020 07: 00
        Quote: Finches
        For example, carpet bombing of the leading edge

        Yes, when will you fight on the couch ?????

        1. +19
          13 November 2020 07: 04
          And I can - I gave almost three decades to the service - this is, firstly, secondly, I am in the reserve and can be drafted according to my position and the VUS into the active army!
          So my sofa is just a place - like military equipment standing on long-term storage sites!

          And you are probably one of those who advocate for Dziuba? laughing Liberal in the shower?
          1. -31
            13 November 2020 07: 17
            Quote: Finches
            And you are probably one of those who advocate for Dziuba?

            I'm one of those who HATE the war. Go fight !!!! But only myself !!!! Poor to go yourself ???? What have you decided for the whole of Russia ????
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              1. -50
                13 November 2020 07: 31
                Quote: Temples
                Our grandfathers themselves went to the front. YOURSELF defended their children

                // Well, go YOURSELF. What do you want to drag the whole of Russia into the war ????? Go fight. Nobody minds. No one attacked Russia ..
                / And for a ssykuna I would answer you in REAL with a muzzle on the asphalt !!!!!!!!
                1. +41
                  13 November 2020 07: 37
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  No one attacked Russia ..

                  What planet are you from?
                  Once again I am convinced of the need for military service for all men.
                  Those who mowed down from the army and from real life.
                  1. -20
                    13 November 2020 07: 41
                    Quote: Temples
                    Those who mowed down from the army and from real life.

                    / Served. Didn't mow. But for the life of me I don't see a war on Russian territory.
                    Well, if your homeland is Karabakh, go fight
                    1. +12
                      13 November 2020 08: 32
                      Do not be distracted ... we are discussing the bulletin ... laughing
                      1. +3
                        13 November 2020 09: 43
                        Quote: Alexander Kopychev
                        Do not be distracted ... we are discussing the bulletin ...

                      2. +3
                        13 November 2020 10: 43
                        good
                        I dug up the whole tube, and missed such a zest! I was looking for everything -yesterday you told me that you would call today ... laughing
                    2. -5
                      13 November 2020 09: 13
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Well, if your homeland is Karabakh, go fight

                      I wouldn't go.
                      1. 0
                        13 November 2020 14: 55
                        Anyone who gave you a minus would not go and go. These are the patriots of the sofa and the world of tanks. Heracakli of the 21st century
                      2. 0
                        13 November 2020 16: 17
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Anyone who gave you a minus would not go and go. These are the patriots of the sofa and the world of tanks. Heracakli of the 21st century

                        I specifically wrote to find out if there are many sofa patriots. It turns out that he was not mistaken.
                      3. +2
                        13 November 2020 18: 45
                        Sasha, I'm glad to see you on the site. You said that correctly, yelling is one thing, fighting is completely different. The screaming thirsty for War - in Real Madrid or enuresis well, or flat feet. laughing a man, if he is a Man, will never want War if he has gone through it himself. Dreaming of blood, shit and snot (and there are no other ingredients there) can only be a real Imbecile.
                        There is no greater pacifist than a participant in real DB. hi
                        I - saw and participated in the War ... I do not wish this to anyone. Taking away the lives of even enemies is not playing computer games. And I won't wish anyone to see my Death. Ghouls, couch fighters - they just oculated the site.
                    3. +21
                      13 November 2020 09: 26
                      Do you really think that there is no war with Russia, in your opinion, if the enemy is not 16 km from the Kremlin, then there is no war, dear pacifist, just so that the enemy does not stand 16 km from the Kremlin and stop him in Tskhinvali, Karabakh , Bagram and Gorlovka, and you, apparently, are already an adult, and you should have understood this.
                      1. +6
                        13 November 2020 11: 11
                        You are right, but the pacifist (of course, that of the liberals!) Is not necessary in FIG.
                        The fact is that in order for a pacifist to bask on the couch, Russia needs a military base in the NPO - and this happened under a random combination of unrelated circumstances.
                        And how happy the people of Karabakh should be !! They were at a distance of half a day from the massacre!
                      2. +5
                        13 November 2020 17: 26
                        There is such a thing. It is better to help extinguish a neighbor's house than to restore the whole village later ...
              2. Hog
                0
                13 November 2020 08: 05
                The French simply surrendered their country to Hitler, because, like you, "they hate war.

                Well, now it's interesting to hear what happened to them after the surrender?
                PS: Or is the fact of surrender important to you?
                1. +7
                  13 November 2020 09: 17
                  Quote: Hog
                  Well, now it's interesting to hear what happened to them after the surrender?

                  And then they entered the four winners. We remember Keitel's words "And these are also winners!"
              3. +14
                13 November 2020 09: 01
                Another one who wants to fight with Russian soldiers for other people's interests? Are you eager to fight again for all the Russians? This is not Russia. And my mother and father also fought. In combat units, at the front, infantry. They returned - invalids of war. I am also against the war, and against my children fighting in Armenia or Azerbaijan, as long as there is no direct threat to Russia. So, and I have no place on this site? I do not want our children to correct mistakes, unprofessionalism, stupidity or betrayal of our politicians with their blood. And there is nothing to come out with insults and tantrums. Here the site is not hawks and not frostbitten mercenaries. Try to be more polite and adequate in relation to your opponents, comrade Khramov (Vladimir). You can love your homeland without hysterics.
                1. +2
                  13 November 2020 09: 20
                  Quote: kyznets
                  You can love your homeland without hysterics.

                  Thanks for your comment. I support.
                2. +17
                  13 November 2020 09: 44
                  I wonder what to call the destruction of the turntable and the death of 2 officers. Isn't this an attack on the RF Armed Forces. Let's then wait until they start shooting down on our territory. Will this also not be a reason for replying? May remind Churchill about Munich- “They chose between shame and war. And they got both shame and war!” You are all such peacekeepers, haters of war. Only now you were not sitting in the cabin of the Drying and the crocodile. It was not you who were killed out of sly. And it is not your blood that demands revenge.
                  Yes, I am also a staff member. And I won't see a war. But to avenge the death of fellows is a holy cause. And how those guys will feel, knowing that your homeland does not care about your death, because the loot is higher. There will be many who want to not even die for it, but simply fight. People like you will definitely not go.
                  1. +20
                    13 November 2020 10: 13
                    basmach (Konstantin)
                    Yes, I am also a staff member. And I won't see a war. But to avenge the death of fellows is a holy cause. And how those guys will feel, knowing that your homeland does not care about your death, because the loot is higher.
                    That's just BRAVO !!! Thank you for your comment, this is exactly the idea I wanted to convey to all local Voshnyh hamsters-pacifists. For the dead guys there must be an adequate answer, otherwise both the army and the common people WON'T UNDERSTAND and WILL NOT FORGIVE! The state should not let everything go on the brakes like this, even for the sake of a momentary political situation. We need to look into the future, and in the future, the military, seeing the state's disregard for their lives, may not give a damn about this very state. Both revolutions of the 17th year were just realized on the basis of the fact that the army did not give a damn. DO NOT FORGIVE THIS!

                    P.S. I don’t know what the Turks got off with for our downed Su-24, they say that not only with tomatoes, but if this is true, then state what, otherwise the people will not understand you. In the USSR, a lot of things were silent, in the end, because of this, they lost a great country. I'm not saying that everything needs to be voiced, but some points should be voiced otherwise the people simply will not understand! And on the fig you need a RUSSIAN REBEL, SENSE AND FUCKING ?!
                    1. +8
                      13 November 2020 13: 00
                      At least after the incident with the Su-24, there were 2 cases of shelling of Turkish columns by Russian Aerospace Forces. Both times the Russian Foreign Ministry admitted that it was by mistake, by accident. It was freely available in all types of press. In total, more than 30 Turkish soldiers were killed and more than 50 were wounded. military personnel and destroyed several units of armored vehicles including tanks. And by the way, the Turkish pilot who shot down the Su-24 was arrested and sentenced to death. This information was also freely available after the coup attempt in Turkey. The pilot was recognized as a participant in the coup and alongside with several hundred other participants were sentenced to capital punishment. Erdogan in relation to them promised to temporarily lift the moratorium on the death penalty. What other information do you need? So that Putin sent you a letter personally? The Turks actually apologized for a very long time, even going to put up a monument to our the deceased pilot was offered monetary compensation to all relatives of the deceased, up to the purchase of apartments.
                      1. +2
                        13 November 2020 13: 13
                        And there was a case of shelling the headquarters in Aleppo with Caliber, where the Yankees, Angles and Franks, Saudis, and Turks were sitting. The Turks were the largest.
                        After the destruction of this headquarters, the defenses of Aleppo fell apart.
                        Whoever needs what needs to be done.
                        No one is immune from failures, but to say that the Basmachi get away with attacking our guys is impossible.
                      2. +2
                        14 November 2020 01: 00
                        Retribution cannot be "by mistake" and "accidental". Otherwise, it is not retribution, but a "mistake" and "accident" ... request
                  2. +2
                    14 November 2020 10: 38
                    You can take revenge in different ways. You can start doing what you were provoked to, what you are being pushed to, what is expected of you. And play by the imposed rules. And you can investigate, calculate, plan and prepare everything with a sober head, a cold mind and charge at the most painful points, with maximum effect and rigidity. Precisely to be remembered for a long time. Revenge is a cold dish. It is not necessary to wait, but to prepare, the most painful answer. As in that joke: "And whoever cheats, we will beat him in the face. On the sly red face! ...". Everyone should know that the longer the pause, the more painful the response will be.
                3. -6
                  13 November 2020 12: 07
                  After the shelling of Nakhichevan by Armenia, this place turned into a war zone with a high probability of a response from Azerbaijan. And against the background of the victorious reports, the desire to contribute to the defeat of Armenia increased to 100%. Unlike Armenians, Azerbaijanis do not shoot at civilians - they were waiting for a military target. And they waited - at night, at a low altitude, without side lights. "Strangers don't go here", but there was no time to look at Flightradar, and it doesn't work in the mountains ...
                  The hurt feeling of resentment for the state is understandable, but the question is: what did the Russians do there, and even with air cover, at the junction of 3 borders, especially "outside the combat zone"? Why didn't they sit on the base? Those. we need to figure out who and why sent the Russians there.
                  This was clearly at the request of Armenia. And if so, quietly, at the request, they could cover up the actions of Armenians with potential victims on the Azerbaijani side. And the shooting down of the helicopter thwarted the operation. So the RF Ministry of Defense is silent in a rag.
                  About the peacekeepers. You have to pay for the opportunity to influence. This is not prying at the naughty children sitting on the porch. This is a military operation with material and, unfortunately, human losses. And if the movement of troops would have been demonstrative, in the daytime, in a column with a tricolor and a warning through diplomatic or other channels, as in Syria, it would have done without unnecessary casualties.
            2. +15
              13 November 2020 07: 59
              Quote: Lipchanin
              I'm one of those who HATE the war. Go fight !!!!

              Unfortunately, the war does not ask whether you love it or hate it, it comes without asking for desire, Chamberlain did not plan to fight the same and at first was very happy with his policy of appeasing those who planned to fight in Europe.
              1. -6
                13 November 2020 08: 04
                Quote: figvam
                Unfortunately, the war does not ask whether you love it or hate it, it comes without asking a desire,

                Who and from what side came to Russia in war ???? I have to fight for the Armenians ???? Or for the Azeri ???? Tell me for whom ????
                1. +13
                  13 November 2020 09: 21
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Who and from what side came to Russia in war ????

                  The murder of Russian servicemen was committed by the Azerbaijani military, to which the Azerbaijani ambassador replies - "In war as in war", although his phrases must be verified to every letter. If every time acts of aggression go unpunished, war will come.
                2. +3
                  13 November 2020 12: 11
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Who and from what side came to Russia in war ????

                  On all counts, there was an attack on the CSTO on the territory of a CSTO member. And what about now? Cancel a contract? Or prescribe new rules that once - not a diver?
                3. 0
                  14 November 2020 00: 56
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  I have to fight for the Armenians ???? Or for the Azeri ???? Tell me for whom ????

                  And who asked you to fight? Put downsides and relax that no one will touch you on the asphalt ...
            3. +9
              13 November 2020 08: 22
              Come on, don't be clueless and be careful when cornering, pacifist from God ... laughing
              I expressed my position on this issue, you are yours, what's the problem then? I wrote in Russian in white, I'm in reserve, Motherland will say it is necessary, then it is necessary! But when once again we just express concern about the death of our military, it becomes so sad and you remember 2008, when Russia responded to the death of Russian peacekeepers as it should! 12 years have passed and the Georgians are still silk, and for our tourists, so right up the hospitality ... And yes, once again for the deaf-blind, but not dumb, Armenia is our ally in the CSTO!
              1. 0
                13 November 2020 08: 41
                1. Basically you are right .. but there is a nuance discussed many times - no one attacked Armenia ..
                2. If the MS base in South Ossetia had been simply fired upon, even with the dead, and had not started a full-scale offensive / extermination, I think there would have been no war 2008 ..
              2. +2
                13 November 2020 09: 27
                Quote: Finches
                And yes, once again for the deaf-blind, but not dumb, Armenia is our ally in the CSTO!

                Yes, an ally, but Armenia is now ruled by the followers of Soros, who are not friendly (said softly) to Russia. So everyone must make a choice, whether it is necessary and for whom to fight.
            4. +1
              13 November 2020 12: 07
              Quote: Lipchanin
              What have you decided for the whole of Russia ????

              The fact is that if you do not respond harshly to such incidents, then next time our military may die again, since the enemy will know that he will get off easily. Anyone who just thinks of attacking our military should ssazza in advance and think about how many guests his relatives will invite to his funeral. If there is anything left to bury.
            5. 0
              14 November 2020 00: 50
              Quote: Lipchanin
              What have you decided for the whole of Russia ????

              Yes, he expresses his opinion, although the opinion is different from yours or yours is the only correct one, Azerbaijan should answer for the downed Russian helicopter and he will answer ... don't worry ...
        2. +20
          13 November 2020 07: 15
          Lipchanin (Sergey)
          Yes, when will you fight on the couch ?????
          As far as I know, Eugene is directly related to the armed forces and should not be accused of "couch patriotism." In addition, I can tell you personally, as a person who completed military service in the hundredth operational division of the internal troops from 91 to 93, I did not fall under Karabakh itself, I did not have time in age, but I got into the division exactly when it left Karabakh, so now, if clear tasks were initially set and there would be no betrayal of the high command, then that conflict would have been hushed up in the bud, and if there had been the political will of our "bright" leadership from fucking to the sun, then our peacekeepers would have stood there for a long time with a mandate to shoot especially frisky on both sides, and the peaceful man would live in peace and such blood would not be shed there now. So no need to talk about sofas, not everyone is like you, some have personally been there.
          1. -19
            13 November 2020 07: 33
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            Evgeny is directly related to the armed forces and should not be accused of "couch patriotism

            YES LET GO AND FIGHT. Who pounds him. No money for a ticket? I can give
            1. +25
              13 November 2020 07: 39
              Lipchanin (Sergey)
              YES LET GO AND FIGHT. Who pounds him. No money for a ticket? I can give
              So I can give you a ticket, don't you want to go yourself? I was personally there, and you ?!
              1. +1
                13 November 2020 07: 43
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                I was personally there, and you ?!

                And I have nothing to do there, since the Armenians do not want to fight. Do you know how many of them are in Russia? And I must fight for nothing?
                1. +11
                  13 November 2020 08: 18
                  And I have nothing to do there, since the Armenians do not want to fight.

                  Well, no need to get away from the topic. Initially, the conversation was about whether the Azerbaijanis should be held accountable for our helicopter destroyed outside the DB zone? And your opponent was for an adequate answer, and you are against. That's all.
                  1. +5
                    13 November 2020 09: 13
                    As I understand it, first it is necessary to find out (to carry out investigative actions) who shot, maybe it was a provocation of Turks or Armenians. We need to find out. And then make decisions. Maybe the goal was just to provoke an "adequate response" from Russia on the Azerbaijani positions, so that a big war with the participation of Russia began. And this needs to be explained to the military? "Russia has accepted the apology of official Baku and continues to expect an objective investigation from the Azerbaijani side."This is an adequate answer. So it seems to me.
                    1. +9
                      13 November 2020 09: 40
                      As I understand it, first you need to find out (carry out investigative actions) who shot, maybe it was a provocation of Turks or Armenians

                      I had to do it in Russian, first fill my muzzles, and then figure out who is right who is wrong!
                      Nobody talks about getting into a conflict, BUT THE FORCED RESPONSE SHOULD BE LIGHTNING! The Americans shot down a Syrian fighter just as they approached the convoy "eliminated the threat to their military" and do not care that they are there without an invitation.
                      In this regard, we have all the cards in our sleeves legally. It was necessary to demolish all possible aggregators of the first line with lightning speed with a pinpoint blow, VISUALLY, FOR THE WHOLE WORLD, WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TO AGGRESSION TO RUSSIA
                      and it would not prevent the current truce. YOU ARE WRONG, WE RESPONDED TO YOUR AGGRESSION "IN WAR AS IN WAR"
                      Yes, in general, there are many questions for our military, elementary where was the intelligence ????? Or another treacherous stab in the back? Who led the withdrawal of the convoy, where is the wingman or the leading second helicopter, and why did he not immediately incinerate the launch site of MANPADS with NURS?
                      1. +3
                        13 November 2020 14: 20
                        I support. In a month (in an optimistic version), they will say, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are to blame. And yet yes! our planes will fly to bomb the guilty? A month after the armistice, Karl? .... It is necessary to answer immediately and harshly, and the terms of the armistice could be dictated by ours, and not by a third party.
                2. +19
                  13 November 2020 10: 21
                  Lipchanin (Sergey)
                  And I have nothing to do there, since the Armenians do not want to fight. Do you know how many of them are in Russia? And I must fight for nothing?
                  Of course, of course, but what was I there for? Or someone asked me? What do I personally care about who would cut whom in the Ossetian-Ingush conflict? With such a position as yours, Russia would not have been from the word at all, the typical position is coming out-khataskraynikov, but what have I to do with it? Yes, despite the fact that the interests of Russia should not be limited to your house, and since they exist, then someone should protect them. I defended, but I already understood your position # 69.
      2. +2
        13 November 2020 07: 09
        Quote: Finches
        but once again I admire the rhetoric of the Foreign Ministry for its harshness. This is no expression of American concern!

        Which is, in general, the same thing.

        ... Russian Foreign Ministry: If "In war as in war", the answer for the helicopter would be crushing

        Only the word "if" interferes. On the one hand, a despicably shot down combat vehicle and killed pilots, and on the other, only words.
        1. +13
          13 November 2020 07: 15
          Recently, we have limited ourselves to words for life ... And any citizen of Russia, including a military man, should feel behind him a state that will not abandon him in trouble and will take all measures so that it will not be common for others in the future! And knowing this, other countries will not arrest our citizens, because the United States told them so, to shoot down our helicopters, etc.
          1. +7
            13 November 2020 08: 22
            You are not saying something, kmk. The ambassador was pulled back by their own, but the press, as it should be, will savor "a tough response from the Russian Foreign Ministry." And the "slogans" about the carpet bombing of the front edge begin (and if this is stated by a person who positions himself as a personnel, this is not at all "gut").
            1. +3
              13 November 2020 08: 30
              And I'm offended for the State! And for the Russian pilots ... For whom there is only one concern once again!
              1. +3
                13 November 2020 08: 55
                93 years old. The commandant's words: "Lieutenant, the Motherland will not forget you, but it will not remember either." So everything is natural and the value of a military man's life is inscribed in the NLA.
                1. -2
                  13 November 2020 08: 59
                  Human life is not seeds! If anything!
                  1. +2
                    13 November 2020 09: 19
                    For their own - yes. For a state car - no. A banal example: gpvrt by 2003 "FSE", in 2011 they gave birth to amendments, and by 2016 they officially consolidated the status of those who "did not fight".
                    Lag between events and "recognition" - 25 calendars! wink
                    So the slogans are for the parapet, for "white noise".
          2. +2
            13 November 2020 08: 32
            One gets the impression that Russia is more outraged by the ambassador's words than by the shooting down of a helicopter.
        2. 0
          13 November 2020 09: 47
          Only the word "if" interferes. On the one hand, a despicably shot down combat vehicle and killed pilots, and on the other, only words.

          You interfere with capitalism and personal financial interests, we do not have a single whole leadership of the country that has patriotic plans for the long term
          At the very beginning, he said, without a response from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, that there would be no response
          If the Turks were forgiven for everything without an apology, then with an apology and even more so
      3. +10
        13 November 2020 07: 10
        Quote: Finches
        but once again I admire the rhetoric of the Foreign Ministry for its harshness. This is no expression of American concern! laughing
        When the harshness of rhetoric is not followed by any action, it gradually emasculates and turns into noise that does not carry any semantic load.
        1. 0
          13 November 2020 07: 16
          In fact of the matter!
      4. +2
        13 November 2020 07: 18
        Quote: Finches
        But Armenia is not just a neighbor, Armenia is our ally in the CSTO

        Unfortunately, Mr. Pashinyan did a lot to question the spirit of alliance between our countries. I would like to note that only equal proximity to both sides of the conflict allowed Russia to achieve practical results in a ceasefire on both sides. And if we stood on one side of the conflict, we would automatically put the other in the position of the enemy.
        Quote: Finches
        but the world respects the strong and loyal to their allied duty

        In relations between states, not everything is so simple. And even if there is respect for the country, various sanctions and restrictions may be imposed on it.
        1. 0
          13 November 2020 10: 02
          Quote: Hagen
          In relations between states, not everything is so simple. And even if there is respect for the country, various sanctions and restrictions may be imposed on it.

          However, even this is not yet visible. We wait. request
          1. -2
            13 November 2020 11: 03
            Quote: Tank Hard
            However, even this is not yet visible. We wait.

            Well, for example, we warned the United States that in the event of a missile attack on them, we will respond to the carriers. And not a single missile fell on our positions in Syria. But there is a whole load of sanctions of all kinds. And there will be more if you wait laughing
            1. 0
              13 November 2020 11: 05
              Quote: Hagen
              And there will be more if you wait

              With regard to Turkey and Azerbaijan? I doubt it, but I'll wait ... request
      5. 0
        13 November 2020 08: 50
        The ambassador is different. Spicy, extraordinary and plenipotentiary, and an ambassador for ... laughing
      6. -2
        13 November 2020 09: 23
        Quote: Finches
        Yes, after that there might be some minor difficulties.

        ))))) Small? After that the war would start.
      7. -1
        13 November 2020 11: 13
        Quote: Finches
        but once again I admire the rhetoric of the Foreign Ministry for its harshness.

        And it annoys me again. We can only speak, but if at least once they answered with dignity, there would be no such cases.
      8. -2
        13 November 2020 12: 29
        Quote: Finches
        With the Ambassador-Singer-Composer, everything is clear - he is a creative person, but once again I am amazed by the rhetoric of the Foreign Ministry for its harshness. This is no expression of American concern! laughing
        But Armenia is not just a neighbor, Armenia is our ally in the CSTO and the answer had to be completely different from Russia - for example, carpet bombing of the front edge of the Azerbaijani army! Yes, after that, minor difficulties could arise in relations with Baku, but the world respects the strong and loyal to their allied duty, and not concerned ones like Dziuba ...!

        Out of place, Mr. Polad let his bulbul go. Seems to be a smart man, elderly. You need to turn on the brain before gurgling.
      9. +1
        13 November 2020 13: 03
        Armenia is our ally in the CSTO

        Why don't you know that Azerbaijan would be our ally in the CSTO if Armenia did not veto? Not?
        Maybe Armenia joined the CSTO for this, in order to hide behind the CSTO, chopping off other people's territories?
        the answer had to be completely different from Russia - for example, carpet bombing of the front edge of the Azerbaijani army!

        Bombing enthusiast ...
        1. 0
          13 November 2020 18: 55
          Let's go down to form - Russian guys were killed by the rocket of Azerbaijan .... Armenia as a whole has nothing to do with it, but someone has to answer! Under normal circumstances, blood for blood!
          1. +1
            13 November 2020 19: 16
            Not the fact that Azerbaijan. The Turks could well. Let's wait.
            1. -1
              13 November 2020 19: 44
              From the territory of Azerbaijan and from the very front line along which it is possible and necessary to give an answer! He was not shot down from Turkey!
              1. +1
                13 November 2020 19: 45
                He was not shot down from Turkey!

                From the enclave - Nakhichevan. The Turks are just there.
                Nakhichevan has a border with Turkey, but not with Azerbaijan.
                1. 0
                  13 November 2020 19: 50
                  Officially, Baku is at war, which means that it is also an answer to Baku!
      10. +1
        13 November 2020 23: 42
        Quote: Finches
        But Armenia is not just a neighbor, Armenia is our ally

        With such an ally, enemies do not need .. They did not think to defend their land, but here about Russia? Are you delusional or what? How will THEY help us if something happens? Betrayed, as always, going into the service of the enemy? Duc there is a queue of the same "allies" in the CSTO, although they will be able to have no doubt ..
    2. +16
      13 November 2020 07: 05
      Hunter 2 (Alexey)
      An emotional statement from the ambassador, just words. You don't need to focus your attention on them so much.
      What is it like? Or like tryndet not to roll bags? Ambassador, this is not your drinking companion in the kitchen and must be responsible for the bazaar, the ambassador cannot just with the language of revenge everything that has ached in his soul. Otherwise, because of the words of such an ambassador, you can turn the country into dust, there have been precedents in history.
    3. +11
      13 November 2020 07: 22
      The helicopters must fly in pairs - they fired one at a time, the second place from which they fired was leveled to the ground!
    4. +4
      13 November 2020 07: 51

      It would be better if I sang songs
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    6. +3
      13 November 2020 09: 08
      Quote: Hunter 2
      An emotional statement from the ambassador, just words. You don't need to focus your attention on them so much.
      We must seek Investigation and Punishment of those responsible for the death of Our Warriors!

      Greetings, Alex! hi
      I agree, Bul-byul oglu is dead. A question to the commander-in-chief of the Aerospace Forces - how many lethal weapons and accidents were shot down from "non-hostile" fire during the operation of the Aerospace Forces in the combat zones?
    7. -1
      13 November 2020 10: 10
      Quote: Hunter 2
      An emotional statement from the ambassador, just words. You don't need to focus your attention on them so much.

      =======
      That's the point: Diplomatespecially in rank Ambassador must weigh EACH YOUR WORD !!! Dade, an inadvertently thrown phrase can lead to disastrous consequences! Conclusion - "don't get into your sleigh - don't get in"!
      The trouble is, if the cobbler starts the cakes,
      And the boots stitch the pastry,
      And things won’t work out.
      Yes, and a hundredfold
      What who loves to take someone else’s craft,
      He forever others stubborn and foolish:
      He'd better ruin everything

      (I.A.Krylov.)
    8. -2
      13 November 2020 11: 12
      Quote: Hunter 2
      An emotional statement from the ambassador, just words.

      What nonsense. The ambassador is the talking head of state.
    9. 0
      13 November 2020 13: 57
      The word of the ambassador is the word of the ambassador, the country which he represents speaks through the mouth of the ambassador. And now the ambassadors have become like American ones, or like the Russian intelligentsia, they don't answer for words and don't make friends with their heads.
  2. +23
    13 November 2020 06: 20
    This is what happens when lay people are appointed as ambassadors. They do not understand that from one inappropriate phrase of the ambassador to the severance of diplomatic relations can be just a step.
    1. +5
      13 November 2020 06: 26
      Quote: Old Tankman
      nominate non-professionals as ambassadors

      And he sang not so well, (bleated), and in diplomacy ...
      1. +3
        13 November 2020 06: 47
        "He lived in the mountains, for a whole century, a man with a beard and named Sheik" ....
        How many admirers of his talent have responded!
        And for the talent of a singer and a diplomat! bully
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        2. 0
          13 November 2020 09: 46
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          And for the talent of a singer and a diplomat!
          It lies in his forgetfulness to the past ...
          Maybe you forgot my phone number
          Maybe you laugh at my loyalty
          But I don't understand why you're so angry
      2. -1
        13 November 2020 09: 39
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        And he sang not so well, (bleated), and in diplomacy.

        As then "I sang not so well", and now sings badly.
        1. 0
          13 November 2020 10: 23
          Quote: tihonmarine
          so now

          There were fans and his talent
  3. +5
    13 November 2020 06: 22
    This is a worthy answer, though there is no action yet. Everything will depend on the investigation in Azerbaijan. Otherwise, I look at the Azerbaijanis from an easy victory completely in a goiter. They will celebrate their Pyrrhic victory on corpses in the mountains throughout Russia, brazenly and shamelessly. They will not bury them too weakly.
    1. 0
      13 November 2020 08: 38
      This is a decent answer, although there is no action yet

      No action? Which are visible to everyone on the Internet? I fully admit that the number of personnel will not be the notorious 1960, but as much as needed. And the set of weapons is appropriate. Let someone try to check. Does anybody want?
  4. +5
    13 November 2020 06: 26
    it would be better if he sang. but in any case, a bad peace is better than war.
    1. +3
      13 November 2020 07: 36
      Quote: master 52
      it would be better if he sang.

      I agree. He did better to sing. I wanted to write. But modern youth on the site do not know who it is? - "How we lived fighting" - that's what I got.
  5. -1
    13 November 2020 06: 30
    in the USA there is a beauty salon owner as an ambassador to Poland and Baku, a singer, a songwriter, they must return to their former jobs because they are more harmful to nature and people than a disaster what a comedy
  6. +1
    13 November 2020 06: 32
    Reply to the Ambassador of Azerbaijan from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: If "war is like war", then the answer for the helicopter would be crushing

    feel
    I'm not hinting at anything ...
    Just being previously inspired

    1. -1
      13 November 2020 10: 05
      Quote: Yves762
      I'm not hinting at anything ...
      Just being previously inspired

      By the way, who would not laugh, but very effective. hi
  7. +8
    13 November 2020 06: 35
    When cultural figures, sportsmen become ambassadors, deputies, and even worse, journalists suddenly become prime ministers of the country, this often looms in a not entirely beautiful picture when they try to comment on this or that acute situation. Sometimes it's better to remain silent.
    such statements can harm the relations of the two countries
    The aide to the President of Azerbaijan reacted correctly to the statement of the retired singer, but not the diplomat.
  8. -3
    13 November 2020 06: 35
    Well, the ambassador could answer this with a Russian proverb - "If only there were mushrooms in his mouth, there would be not a mouth, but a whole garden", but he diplomatically will keep silent, because official Baku carefully observes the polity and has already pulled the ambassador.
    The only funny thing is that the Russian Foreign Ministry is more concerned not with the reality of the state of affairs, when the Russian Federation becomes an honorary guard of cargo from Nakhichevan to Baku, and the downed helicopter passes as an unfortunate incident, but the inviolability of the beckoning little world of another "diplomatic victory". The main thing is not to remind about "annoying incidents".
  9. +6
    13 November 2020 06: 39
    You walk down the street with your beloved. And suddenly, your beloved, the bully hits in the face, then comes up to you and says, Well, isaini. And you are all waiting for the trial.
    The Kremlin has long shown to everyone that Russians can be beaten, killed, imprisoned and nothing will happen to the aggressors.
    1. +12
      13 November 2020 07: 52
      Quote: Gardamir
      And you are all waiting for the trial.

      And so menacing to him:
      - Now, if it was a war, then I would answer you crushingly!
    2. 0
      13 November 2020 09: 07
      Excuse me, you gave a bad analogy (the private relations of citizens and the politics of two states are incomparable things). But let's continue your analogy, you answer the bully, so that he has a TBI (we carry it out in response with carpet bombing) and he runs where? That's right, the police (by analogy with the UN, the ECHR and others like them). What will happen next? And no one will give a damn who started first ... Everything needs proportionality in the answer, and it is not for us, because of the computer, to decide what the response of our country will be.
      1. 0
        13 November 2020 09: 53
        Regarding the last sentence. There was such a country, who may have heard. So in this country everyone was shot down. Oh. Iranians, Turks, Americans. And not a single Democrat could say something against it. Now what? They shot down our plane, and we responded "I was offended."
  10. -1
    13 November 2020 06: 41
    Polada Bulbul looks like an ambassador will bul-bul ...
  11. +14
    13 November 2020 06: 43
    Yes, everything, Russia has forgiven ... Again. Everyone has already understood. Why bring up this topic?
  12. +3
    13 November 2020 06: 48
    If our helicopter was shot down by Turkish special forces, how interesting is Aliyev going to investigate and punish those responsible? The Turks themselves can punish him for his excessive zeal.
  13. +2
    13 November 2020 06: 51
    Will the purchase of tomatoes be banned? No? Okay. Putin has outplayed everyone!
  14. 0
    13 November 2020 06: 53
    Quote: Hunter 2
    An emotional statement from the ambassador, just words. You don't need to focus your attention on them so much.
    We must seek Investigation and Punishment of those responsible for the death of Our Warriors!


    I believe that "Ambassador's emotional statement"far from"just words", and a demonstration of disrespect: the helicopter was shot down, there was no immediate and crushing response, (time has passed, now it will not follow), Russia has accepted an official apology.
    Everything, the situation is over, there is nothing to be afraid of. And it won't hurt to kick Russia once again either, because everyone should see that there is no need to be afraid of Russians, Russians are harmless and unrequited, and therefore you can treat them like classic terpily.
    In the end, Turkey shot down SU24, so what ???? But nothing !!! We got off with tomatoes ...
    Yes, and Ukrainian soldiers, I remember our customs point was fired upon. There were victims. From our side. So what??? Never mind!!! Nothing at all !!!
    So why are Turks allowed, Ukrainians allowed, but Azeris not allowed ???
  15. -4
    13 November 2020 07: 03
    Special operation. Codenamed "Azerbaijan ay ta ta. And everything was spontaneous" in action. bully Well, everyone understands that our appearance there is like a bone in the throat of the local Nazis. What is Armenian. What is Azerbaijani. The dirty trick SHOULD be expected in advance. We hope that we will continue to act more prudently.
    1. 0
      13 November 2020 07: 17
      How will our peacekeepers act in the event of a direct attack by Dashnaks or Azerbaijani bashi-bazouks?
      1. +1
        13 November 2020 22: 09
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        How will our peacekeepers act in the event of a direct attack by Dashnaks or Azerbaijani bashi-bazouks?

        Severely needed according to the situation am Yes
  16. +5
    13 November 2020 07: 06
    An ambassador of any state has no right to say something on his own behalf! He is the messenger of his country!
    1. 0
      13 November 2020 07: 24
      Reminds of the story with our TU-154 shot down by the Ukrainian air defense, Kuchma then also wriggled to evade responsibility. The Azerbadzians seem to be able to repeat the past.
  17. +7
    13 November 2020 07: 14
    The ambassador's words just express what everyone thinks and says on the sidelines in Azerbaijan.
    Alas, strength is respected in the world, especially in the east. Therefore, the fact that Russia did not react in any way militarily to the shooting down of the helicopter is a big mistake.
    and it's not about bloodthirstiness or some other things, it's just the way the world works there.
    1. +2
      13 November 2020 07: 24
      Then the whole world from the Middle East to Africa is on fire, well ... a great idea to put out the fire with gasoline.
      1. +4
        13 November 2020 09: 12
        Does anyone still have illusions? If the whole people is food for the power of the backbones, why should the warriors be perceived by them differently? They generally took the oath, willingly to die.
  18. -5
    13 November 2020 07: 19
    If auntie had eggs, she would be an uncle.
  19. +1
    13 November 2020 07: 29
    This happens when a person is appointed as an ambassador who has neither education, nor experience, nor brains for such work.
  20. +1
    13 November 2020 07: 34
    Quote: Swetliy
    An ambassador of any state has no right to say something on his own behalf! He is the messenger of his country!


    Yes, it doesn't. However, in this regard, the question:
    1. Will Azerbaijan offer official apologies for the rudeness and rash statements of the ambassador?
    2. Will the ambassador be dismissed for making a statement?
    1. +5
      13 November 2020 07: 53
      Well, out for Zakharova, Putin himself apologized to the President of Serbia and nothing, she was not sent to any resignation
  21. +3
    13 November 2020 07: 39
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    How will our peacekeepers act in the event of a direct attack by Dashnaks or Azerbaijani bashi-bazouks?


    Yes, how can I tell you ...
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation will express concern and / or bewilderment ... families will be allocated a life pension and material assistance ... the peacekeepers themselves will be presented for awards ... Perhaps even the president will deliver a speech with a mournful face ...
  22. +9
    13 November 2020 07: 47
    that if everything really came down to the situation "in war as in war", then "the answer for the helicopter would be crushing" ........... it is sickening to hear this. immediately there should be a response, "crushing" from M.O. , and only then all sorts of statements from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, either from ours or from theirs. and then it will be even worse, our guys who will drag AR and Azeri to different corners in Karabakh, will start shooting slowly, both sides, as it was in 88-90, well, the answers will be in such a crushing style of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs. turned into some kind of tolerated. who only from ,, partners ,, our planes did not shoot down, Turks, Israel. before Gorbachev, in the USSR, all violators of the air border were immediately shot down, and under I.V. STAPIN, they could easily overwhelm a spy plane in neutral waters, so that it would not spin around the borders, like a Swedish one. then there were ,, crushing ,, answers, and now .......... one shame.
  23. +4
    13 November 2020 07: 50
    Who put a fool in such a post? There was no smarter ambassador?
    1. +2
      13 November 2020 08: 23
      Who put a fool in such a post? There was no smarter ambassador?

      There was a competition. Song. And he won.
  24. -1
    13 November 2020 08: 20
    (he is a famous Azerbaijani tenor and doctor of art history)

    A fine mental organization is evident. In response to the "lyrics" a club flew in.
  25. -4
    13 November 2020 08: 33
    Caucasian loves hard fuck
  26. +2
    13 November 2020 08: 34
    Recently, the problem is that where the Ministry of Defense should speak, respond and act on our part, only the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Rosportrebnadzor respond "crushingly".
  27. +2
    13 November 2020 08: 34
    The Russian authorities also expect to bring those responsible for the attack on the Russian helicopter to justice.


    In my opinion, the perpetrators are not there, they are not at all there - we must ask Erdogan ...
  28. 0
    13 November 2020 08: 37
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Well, out for Zakharova, Putin himself apologized to the President of Serbia and nothing, she was not sent to any resignation


    However, the humor, albeit not entirely successful, of Zakharova and the statement of the Azerbaijani ambassador "over the corpses of our military" are not quite the same thing! The caliber is clearly different !!!
    And Serbia has never claimed the title of a Great Power ...
  29. +5
    13 November 2020 08: 43
    Quote: Million
    Who put a fool in such a post? There was no smarter ambassador?


    And who told you that the ambassador - ??? He is smart! Even too smart !!! And his statement is not an accident, but a continuation of the provocation, left unpunished by our authorities.
  30. +5
    13 November 2020 08: 49
    And here's an interesting question: if in that downed helicopter there were not rootless Russians, but ... well, at least Putin's daughters, our authorities would show the same peacefulness and restraint ???

    Hint: Some time ago, during a road fight, the guard of banker Matvey Urin roughed up the Dutchman, who turned out to be either a friend or close to Putin ... Where is that banker now? How long did it take to get revenge?
    1. +3
      13 November 2020 09: 20
      For their own and for their own they will gnaw anyone's throat. A gang from the 90s, who replaced leather jackets with expensive suits. Fangs stick out and click.
  31. -1
    13 November 2020 09: 35
    Quote: Desaad
    well ... a great idea to put out the fire with gasoline.

    You know, how many times did the gopniks say "why didn't anyone give me tryndyuly on time?"
    this is how it is here - the neighbors should have no illusions about the possibility of Russia giving them tryndyulyi.
    Otherwise, Azerbaijan will have to be brought to peace as Georgia. But we definitely don't need this.
  32. -1
    13 November 2020 09: 39
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Well, out for Zakharova, Putin himself apologized to the President of Serbia and nothing, she was not sent to any resignation

    And what did Zakharova say?
    On the contrary, I tried to intercede for this Serbian ... I don't even know what word can be inserted for designation.
  33. -2
    13 November 2020 09: 40
    Quote: Unknown
    there should immediately be an answer ,,

    Gold words. The answer should have been immediately and then you can apologize.
  34. -2
    13 November 2020 09: 46
    that Russia has accepted the apology of official Baku and continues to expect an objective investigation from the Azerbaijani side.
    And behind all this looming ears of Turkey.
    Which just a fart is cracking so wants to get into Azerbaijan that she was ready to provoke a Russian-Azerbaijani conflict.
    Turkey's aid was only a penny, and the damage from the Turkish provocation could be fatal for Azerbaijan.
    ---
    In general, the impression is that Azerbaijan, because of Turkish arrogance, is in greater danger than Armenia.
  35. -1
    13 November 2020 10: 25
    An adequate payment for the dead pilots for Baku would be the allocation of one hectare of land on the border with the Russian Federation with the construction of a "Hatynka" for families on each site and the transfer of these hectares to the jurisdiction of our country. The Azerbaijanis in Karabakh have not been too weak to grab it, they have to share!
  36. -2
    13 November 2020 10: 33
    The peace-loving Trump launched into Syria for fifty axes !!! ... There is less ammunition in the Caspian Flotilla - but we are even more "KU"! I would PERSONALLY start every day with an apology for the innocently killed citizens of Azerbaijan ...
  37. +2
    13 November 2020 10: 48
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Reminds of the story with our TU-154 shot down by the Ukrainian air defense, Kuchma then also wriggled to evade responsibility. The Azerbadzians seem to be able to repeat the past.


    Yes, yes, yes, but who will refresh my memory:
    1. How were the Ukrainian soldiers who shot down our TU-154 punished?
    2. To what extent has Ukraine paid compensation to the families of the victims of CITIZENS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION?
    3. To what extent has Ukraine paid compensation to the families of the victims of ISRAEL CITIZENS?
    4. What actions did our authorities, including the Foreign Ministry, the General Prosecutor's Office, the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office and the special services take to identify those responsible for that tragedy, bring them to justice, including their (guilty) delivery to the territory of the Russian Federation following the example of the United States?
  38. -1
    13 November 2020 11: 54
    Mdaaa! The land of Azerbaijan is rich in inadequate!
  39. 0
    13 November 2020 14: 02
    Quote: Finches
    And you are probably one of those who advocate for Dziuba? Liberal in the shower?

    Masturbators are broad-shouldered people.
  40. -1
    13 November 2020 14: 05
    Interestingly, under the same circumstances, with the death of the crew, an Azeri turntable would have been shot down on their territory.

    Byulya-oglu's answer: "In war, as in war. They shot down and figs with them ..."? Or something else? ...

    This is not the first time that a showman in a responsible state position turns into an irresponsible ...
    1. -1
      13 November 2020 16: 31
      Quote: Timofey Charuta
      This is not the first time that a showman in a responsible state position turns into an irresponsible ...

      He's not some show man, but an ambassador. We must once again check the compliance of his statements with diplomatic protocol and diplomatic practice. And also the methods of his diplomatic work in Moscow. The "Azerbaijani diaspora" is behaving somehow too unbridled. Maybe he just decided, not the ambassador?
  41. +2
    13 November 2020 14: 33
    Quote: Bully
    No action? Which are visible to everyone on the Internet? I fully admit that the number of personnel will not be the notorious 1960, but as much as needed. And the set of weapons is appropriate. Let someone try to check. Does anybody want?

    What is the set of weapons for the state, this will be. Do not expect that there will be as we want, so this technique will be.
  42. +2
    13 November 2020 15: 58
    Since they did not answer immediately, now we will wrap (((
  43. -2
    13 November 2020 16: 38
    By the way, it is reported that ... olgi have already "received a thrashing." I don’t know what this means, but I hope it’s not good.
  44. -1
    13 November 2020 17: 11
    It is added that Russia has accepted the apology of official Baku and continues to expect an objective investigation from the Azerbaijani side.

    The Russian authorities also expect to bring those responsible for the attack on the Russian helicopter to justice.
    Everything, as always - bring down our turntables, guys, and other aircraft further .... sad
  45. 0
    14 November 2020 01: 39
    From whom, so from Polad, a Soviet man, I never expected. Says that it came into the mouth. Kh. Hajiyev's rebuke is an accusation of unprofessionalism on the verge of sabotage. It looks like the "embassy" will make him a pen. (The bloodthirsty may not read further). PS Azerbaijani social networks are full of indignation at such statements and demands for the ambassador's resignation.
  46. 0
    17 November 2020 11: 59
    If a state ambassador openly answers in such a tone and in such a content about what he does not know, it is not an ambassador, but an empty place and a shame to the state from which he was appointed to them. If the ambassador, knowing the situation, speaks in such a manner, he speaks openly and in a disrespectful manner about the state. In both cases, Polad Bul-byul Ogly does not correspond to the title of ambassador and Russia is simply obliged to seek his recall to Baku. At the same time, without ceasing to persistently follow the objective investigation of the death of our helicopter crew due to the fault of Azerbaijani shooters from MANPADS. There is no other way, in my opinion. Otherwise, the image of our country will suffer. But I think that Russia will not allow such relations from any side in the future. We have already had our fill of all these deviations, political tolerance and "flexibility". That's it, there is no turning back, Moscow is behind us, comrades. Although, some liberal-minded "non-comrades" have already vomited a couple of times in the "golden" toilet bowls after my post, I think so.