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Posner: Soviet Russia had certain fascist features

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Another resonant statement was made by the famous TV presenter Vladimir Pozner. On his Pozner Online portal, he published a statement, which, in principle, he himself initially designated as quite provocative.


And once again from Posner went to the Soviet Union, Soviet Russia.

TV journalist, academician of the TV academy:

I understand that what I say will cause wild discontent among many people, but to a certain extent Soviet Russia had certain fascist features.

This tirade was made by Posner when thinking about whether he fears fascism. According to the TV presenter, the 86-year-old journalist, he fears this, but believes that "Russia has already gone through this." Moreover, as you can see, Posner does not mean European fascism (Nazism), which the USSR encountered during the Great Patriotic War. He emphasizes that the USSR itself had "the features of fascism".

Further Posner added that the United States should be more afraid of fascism, since "the United States is more naive in this regard."

Calling Soviet Russia a country with "fascist features" is the top, to put it mildly, oddity. After all, one of the pillars of fascism has always been ultra-right views and anti-communism. Not to mention racism ...
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  1. MTN
    MTN 12 November 2020 18: 28
    98
    In my old age, I lost my mind with everything.
    What I liked about the USSR, even the cinema passed through the "censor" of the KGB. And now you look at journalists and political experts, they twist the info as they want. You can't say such things. Who cheats for loot and who is afraid to convey the truth. In general, not good times have gone, and most importantly, small people have gone.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 12 November 2020 18: 30
      86
      Quote: MTN
      In my old age, I lost my mind with everything.

      One more got out .. But he was also a Komsomol member and for the sake of foreign business trips, you can see completely different songs sang ..
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 12 November 2020 18: 35
        76
        Vladimir hi,
        in regard to Posner, it's time to say "take this shit out now." But it's on
        The first channel bleats. I would like to hear yesterday's "patriots" about this.
        1. Turanov
          Turanov 12 November 2020 19: 03
          44
          Quote: lexus
          Vladimir hi,
          in regard to Posner, it's time to say "take this shit out now." But it's on
          The first channel bleats. I would like to hear yesterday's "patriots" about this.

          This hyena Pozner (excuse me) with his malicious smile, took part in the collapse of the USSR and is very active in his media .. Now he does not like Russia again?
          It's time to clean up "our media", there they are pouring so much dirt on Russia again and I think they will not have time until another bloody confusion is arranged in order to finally erase all memory and territorial community ..
          The most offensive for our money .. Somewhere in the United States they would have been assigned 100 years in prison, or even an electric chair for treason and incitement .. And we are silent, and even crazy fees pay him to Judas ... me guys, but how to see this "Posner" and his evil eyes, my pressure rises and my heart is beating .. negative
          He is even worse than Judas humpback and people like him ..
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 12 November 2020 19: 15
            22
            Calling Soviet Russia a country with "fascist features" is the top, to put it mildly, oddity.

            This is not "oddities" in Posner, but a SKILLED political PROVOCATION against present-day Russia.
            And when?! When Russia, at the invitation of the belligerents, brought its Russian peacekeepers into Nagorno-Karabakh !!!

            This is, in fact, a SERIOUS hostile PROVOCATION, not just from the United States in the person of Posner, but with a long-range scope against our Russian soldiers and officers with a peacekeeping mission in Nagorno-Karabakh.

            For to call Soviet Russia with "fascist features" now is essentially an instigation of the divorced parties in the form of permission to shoot and kill the Russian peacekeeping servicemen who are spreading them.

            Pip Poznaru on the tongue!
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 12 November 2020 19: 19
              -67 qualifying.
              Was Soviet Russia not engaging in ethnic bullying based on state interests?
              1. Turanov
                Turanov 12 November 2020 19: 25
                31
                Quote: Shahno
                Was Soviet Russia not engaging in ethnic bullying based on state interests?

                Well, the defender Poznerov and K pulled himself up .. Even answering is disgusting, what yours were doing here in Russia .. hi
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 12 November 2020 19: 36
                  13
                  Posner - TV journalist, academician of the TV Academy:
                  I understand that what I say will cause wild discontent among many people, but to a certain extent Soviet Russia had certain fascist features.

                  Posner with his stone in his bosom said about Russia SPECIALLY and THOUGHTLY!
                  Like, draw the conclusion that there will be NO SIN of the Russian peacemaker as a "fascist" OUT OF REVENGE and kill!

                  This is what the American Posner is trying to achieve with his LOUD statement!
                  1. krot
                    krot 12 November 2020 20: 06
                    +5
                    Posner has been carrying something lately! Did he get a lobotomy?
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 12 November 2020 21: 06
                      +2
                      They say rectal cancer. Like I tried to hang myself once. But these are rumors ... repeat
                    2. DED_peer_DED
                      DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 13
                      0
                      It's time to cut the gallbladder. Otherwise, the whole organism will poison.
                  2. Machito
                    Machito 12 November 2020 22: 33
                    12
                    Watch the movie Platoon with Charlie Shinn, how American soldiers with a Nazi flag with a swastika killed Vietnamese civilians. Doesn't the USA look like a fascist state? Iraqis, Syrians and many other peoples will tell you that mattress toppers are worse than fascists. And Posner is a louse on the body of the people.
                    1. DED_peer_DED
                      DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 14
                      +2
                      Doesn't the USA look like a fascist state?

                      Absolutely not alike.
                      They are it.
                    2. Chervonny
                      Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 00
                      15
                      Quote: Bearded
                      Posner is a louse on the body of the people.

                      Posner is the enemy. All his propaganda is directed against the peoples of Russia and the history of our state.
                  3. Hagen
                    Hagen 13 November 2020 06: 44
                    -2
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    This is what the American Posner is trying to achieve with his LOUD statement!

                    Everything is elementary! The main thing for any show-man is to be in the "language" of potential viewers. And it doesn't matter in what context. We started to forget about him a little lately, so he reminded about himself. He provoked a hype around his name. Only three on the computer screen, and how many emotions are around. These are all technologies for building ratings and recognition rates. For this, in the environment of media personalities, someone constantly marries and divorces with loud scandals, explicit and fictitious, if only the name was heard.
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Like, draw the conclusion that there will be NO SIN of the Russian peacemaker as a "fascist" OUT OF REVENGE and kill!

                    Posner is a person with a certain reputation. Those who listen to him already understand what can be expected from him. And he didn't add anything new to his image. If, for example, someone else, Kurginyan, Bagdasarov and their relatives, spoke in this way, there would be a real commotion. And the fact that all states are similar to each other in a number of ways is nothing new. It is important what signs determine their similarity ... And so, with our numerous reactions to Posner's statement, we only justify his expectations ... request
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 13 November 2020 12: 05
                      +1
                      Quote: Hagen
                      And so, with our numerous reactions to Posner's statement, we only justify his expectations ...

                      Posner knows what he is doing! He is a subtle provocateur and ate a dog on propaganda!

                      In this case, it is important for Posner, a US citizen, how to continue pushing "American democracy" - US liberalism into Russia, and to continue to make money in his pocket in Russia, and his appeal is indirectly more directed at this time not so much to the Russians as to the DISSATISFIED truce to the parties in Armenia and Azerbaijan.

                      Under Stalin, Posner would have become persona non grata in 1 hour after such a statement.
                      1. Hagen
                        Hagen 13 November 2020 12: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Under Stalin, Posner would have become persona non grata in 1 hour after such a statement.

                        Under Stalin, many things would have been different. Including criticism of the authorities. Don't you think? wink
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 13 November 2020 12: 18
                        +2
                        We won the Second World War under Stalin, and with the glasnost and "new thinking" of Humpback, our country fell apart and blood flows in rivers on its former outskirts!

                        It is necessary to understand criticism: who criticizes, how, when and for what?
                        Untimely criticism is tantamount to betrayal and hostile provocation!
                      3. Hagen
                        Hagen 13 November 2020 12: 32
                        -1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        It is necessary to understand criticism: who criticizes, how, when and for what?

                        In those days, the printed word was the reason for the initiation of a criminal case. In one case, against the criticized, in the other, against the critic, depending on the reasons. Accordingly, responsibility arose for the spoken / printed word. Not like now, everyone with a shovel at the fan strives to change the landscape both on the job and without it.
                    2. Past the crocodile
                      Past the crocodile 13 November 2020 15: 55
                      -7
                      Quote: Hagen
                      You don't think
                      Thinking is not their strong point. They were told that Posner was an American and instructed to rewind the tape in that direction. Let the author tell the inhabitants of the Juche country that fascism is supposedly the antipode of communism.
                    3. the lord
                      the lord 13 November 2020 19: 11
                      +1
                      Did you communicate a lot with the inhabitants of the Juche country? The country is closed from the modern world, but at the same time it has acquired nuclear and missile weapons of its own production. And somehow there is no information about the famine in this country, especially in our times of coronavirus. Isn't it strange? It would seem that this should happen there right now, even take out the saints, but everything is torn in Poland and Bulgaria))))
                    4. Squelcher
                      Squelcher 14 November 2020 01: 02
                      -3
                      I was in the DPRK even tried local semolina ice cream and was in South Korea, so there is something to compare, and you were there?
                    5. Past the crocodile
                      Past the crocodile 14 November 2020 18: 00
                      -4
                      Surely the streets are packed with North Koreans eating ice cream? What are not left in this incarnation of paradise?
                    6. Squelcher
                      Squelcher 15 November 2020 00: 51
                      +1
                      The funny thing is that North Koreans, living in an unsuitable area for life, under sanctions and a regime, show stronger successes in achieving their goals than the pot-loving ones with the support of progressive countries.
                2. Past the crocodile
                  Past the crocodile 14 November 2020 19: 55
                  -3
                  Do you expect KimIII to personally inform you about the famine in the country? By the way, how has the United States not collapsed yet, and the ruble has not taken the place of the dollar in world finance? Greetings to Solovyov and Kiselyov.
                3. Chervonny
                  Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 02
                  15
                  Quote: Past Crocodile
                  Are you waiting for KimIII to personally inform you about the famine in the country?

                  You were told by the United States that there is famine in the DPRK ... Americans are able to invent fakes. And you are fooled by them lol
            2. Chervonny
              Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 01
              15
              Quote: Past Crocodile
              Thinking is not their strong point.

              Can you think? Why then are you repeating clichés invented by Western propaganda regarding the DPRK?
        2. Oprichnik
          Oprichnik 13 November 2020 19: 46
          +1
          I think that this ... would have been shot until the evening under Article 58, Part 2!
        3. Chervonny
          Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 03
          12
          Quote: Oprichnik
          I think that this ... would have been shot until the evening under Article 58, Part 2!

          And we would have done the right thing in relation to this enemy of the people.
        4. mat-vey
          mat-vey 15 November 2020 06: 46
          -2
          Quote: Oprichnik
          I think that this ... would have been shot until the evening under Article 58, Part 2!

          And how many people he wrote denunciations ...
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 00
    14
    Quote: Turanov
    Well, the defender Poznerov and K pulled himself up .. Even answering is disgusting

    Right. It's not worth messing about such.
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 12 November 2020 19: 26
    +3
    Posner - TV journalist, academician of the TV Academy:
    I understand that what I say will cause wild discontent among many people, but to a certain extent Soviet Russia had certain fascist features.

    Posner with his stone in his bosom said about Russia SPECIALLY and THOUGHTLY!
    Like, draw the conclusion that there will be NO SIN of the Russian peacemaker as a "fascist" OUT OF REVENGE and kill!

    This is what the American Posner is trying to achieve with his LOUD statement!
  • nnm
    nnm 12 November 2020 19: 34
    13
    Could you give a few examples of "bullying", colleague?
    1. Alf
      Alf 12 November 2020 19: 45
      11
      Quote: nnm
      Could you give a few examples of "bullying", colleague?

      Jews were not allowed abroad. laughing
      1. the Saint
        the Saint 13 November 2020 10: 43
        0
        Nobody was allowed abroad in the USSR laughing with rare exceptions. And business trips abroad were a dream.
        And now they stopped producing: either to Egypt, in order to bomb Syria without regard to the safety of Russian tourism in Arab countries, then they are not allowed to enter Turkey, equating the same Russian tourism to Turkish tomatoes.
        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 03
          14
          Quote: el Santo
          And overseas business trips were a dream

          For whom?
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 32
        +1
        Quote: Alf
        Jews were not allowed abroad.

        Protected ...
    2. the Saint
      the Saint 12 November 2020 20: 52
      -32 qualifying.
      Quote: nnm
      Could you give a few examples of "bullying", colleague?

      It’s very strange that I don’t know. Deported Crimean Tatars, Poles, Germans, Chechens and Ingush, residents of the Baltic States ... only about 3 million.
      Mass repressions against "unreliable" nationalities began on July 25, 1937, with the NKVD order number 00439.
      55 055 people were convicted on "German" cases (even before the war), including 41 898 shot.
      August 11, 1937: "Polish operation". 143 810 people were arrested, 139 835 convicted and 111 091 shot - every sixth ethnic Pole living in the USSR.
      August 7, 1937: "Romanian operation". 8292 people were convicted, 5439 were shot.
      November 30, 1937: Operation against Latvian defectors, activists of Latvian clubs and societies. 21 people were convicted, 300 were shot.
      December 11, 1937: "Greek operation". 12 people were convicted, 557 were shot.
      December 14, 1937: directive to extend the repression along the "Latvian line" to Estonians, Lithuanians and Finns. 9735 people were convicted on the "Estonian line", including 7998 sentenced to death, 11 and 066 people were sentenced on the "Finnish line", respectively.
      January 29, 1938: "Iranian operation". 13 people were convicted, 297 were shot;
      February 1, 1938: Operation against Bulgarians and Macedonians. The number of victims has not been established.
      February 16, 1938: "Afghan operation". 1557 people were convicted, 366 were shot.
      etc. etc.
      1. nnm
        nnm 12 November 2020 20: 58
        18
        I have already answered one colleague about deportation. I will not repeat myself. I was interested in something else - could you, dear colleague, provide information about the primary source of your statistics?
        1. the Saint
          the Saint 12 November 2020 21: 06
          -25 qualifying.
          Operational order of the NKVD of the USSR No. 00439 "On the operation to repress German citizens suspected of espionage against the USSR." July 25, 1937 // AP RF. F. 3. Op. 58. D. 253. L. 143-146. Script. Published: Lubyanka. Stalin and the Main Department of State Security of the NKVD. Stalin's archive. Documents of the supreme bodies of party and state power. 1937-1938. M., 2004. S. 271-272; Leningrad Martyrology. 1937-1938. SPb., 1996. T. 2. S. 452-453.

          Stalinist repression on a national basis
          https://obsrvr.livejournal.com/1740271.html
          1. nnm
            nnm 12 November 2020 21: 07
            23
            Excuse me, are you serious?))) I thought that I was communicating with an adult who has his own thoughts and judgments. And you, it turns out, only have references to other people's literary delights in your head. You want to give me some article in LJ for sources of statistics, seriously ?? !! It's a pity that the time wasted ...
          2. the Saint
            the Saint 12 November 2020 21: 20
            -42 qualifying.
            A very comfortable move. But another move - the course of history - confirms my point of view. The attitude of citizens in France and the Benelux countries to the military graves of their liberators-allies and the attitude in Eastern Europe and the Baltic to the memory of their "liberators" from the USSR are the simplest and indisputable example, equating Hitler's Nazism and Stalin's communism.
          3. nnm
            nnm 12 November 2020 21: 24
            29
            That's right, when you can't give an answer even to a simple and direct question - change the subject!)))
            Excuse me, but what countries are you trying to set me up as an example? Those who fell under the Nazis and served them faithfully until the last day? And you really believe that this should be an opinion deserving respect for me?
          4. the Saint
            the Saint 13 November 2020 10: 14
            -9
            The authors make their calculations, shoveling through a cloud of only recently declassified archival materials.
            It doesn't matter where they are published - on the Internet or in book publishers. All these figures can be found in the literature on the history of Stalinist repressions.

            And why distortion "about countries"? I don't like Holland, which lost to Hitler - take Britain or the United States, which won that war.
          5. Past the crocodile
            Past the crocodile 13 November 2020 16: 03
            -3
            You won't prove anything to them. The nightingale has already slept all over their ears with its droppings. They don't take their heads out of the TV set.
          6. the Saint
            the Saint 13 November 2020 16: 23
            -5
            I understand this, and, alas, I am engaged in the fight against windmills. He himself was the same, who took on faith the "Memories and Reflections" of the famous "butcher", a gullible idiot until the age of fifteen, until he read the classic work of K. Tippelskirch "World War II", published in the USSR in 1954, and which even in At the height of the Cold War, no one in the USSR was reproached for false fabrications.
            This was my turning point (until that time, a pioneer and Komsomol member absolutely loyal to the Soviet regime).
          7. Oprichnik
            Oprichnik 13 November 2020 19: 50
            +4
            how little it took to break your brains !!!
          8. the Saint
            the Saint 13 November 2020 19: 54
            -3
            it is easy and pleasant to read and find out the truth, as well as to speak it
          9. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 38
            +1
            Quote: Oprichnik
            how little it took to break your brains !!!

            What, what to break?
        2. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 37
          0
          He himself was the same, taking on faith the "Memories and Reflections" of the famous "butcher", a gullible idiot until the age of fifteen,

          until my dad gave me a receiver with HF bands.
        3. Chervonny
          Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 04
          16
          Quote: el Santo
          I am, alas, engaged in the fight against windmills

          Oh, straight Don Quixote laughing
          Quote: el Santo
          until that time a pioneer and Komsomol member who was absolutely loyal to the Soviet regime

          Foreign, why are you lying that you were a pioneer and a Komsomol member? You are not from the USSR.
      2. Chervonny
        Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 03
        17
        Quote: Past Crocodile
        I'm a nightingale

        You are wrong. Valera Solovey put his droppings in your ears. And we don't listen to any nightingales.
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 34
      +2
      Quote: el Santo
      take Britain ... the winners of that war.

      What are you smoking there? Share with the people.
  • mister-red
    mister-red 12 November 2020 22: 54
    +8
    The attitude of citizens in France and the Benelux countries to the military graves of their liberators-allies and the attitude in Eastern Europe and the Baltic to the memory of their "liberators" from the USSR are the simplest and indisputable example, equating Hitler's Nazism and Stalin's communism.

    Really? Are you okay with logic? That is, the attitude towards monuments in other countries is that litmus test that shows where fascism was? Enchanting.
  • the Saint
    the Saint 13 November 2020 10: 25
    -7
    Absolutely serious and extremely logical. Crazy minus instead of at least one intelligible argument confirms this. I hit a sore point, and there is simply nothing to object to the inert and blinkered, ignorant "army community".

    Eight Eastern European countries that drank both Hitler's Nazism and Stalin's communism, equated communism with Nazism in 2017
    The statement was signed by Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary and the Czech Republic. It was adopted on the European Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Communism and Nazism, when, at the invitation of the Minister of Justice of Estonia Urmas Reinsalu, a meeting of representatives of the Ministries of Justice and societies of victims of totalitarianism took place in Tallinn.
  • Past the crocodile
    Past the crocodile 13 November 2020 16: 06
    -3
    Add to this that Russophile Czechoslovakia, after half a century of communism, has become anti-Russian.
  • the Saint
    the Saint 13 November 2020 16: 29
    -2
    The rest of the brothers also split off and go into free swimming. The first were the Bulgarians, then they got the dislike of the Ukrainians and the antipathy of the Montenegrins, the next were the Serbs.
  • the lord
    the lord 13 November 2020 19: 24
    0
    Yes, the Bulgarians are leaving))))) Have you heard anything about the riots in their country? And they are))))) And some ... pro-Russian (((((Pichalka ...
  • the Saint
    the Saint 13 November 2020 19: 51
    -2
    Do not fill your head with those in which you do not understand anything. Fight for a steady increase in military pensions, the abolition of the reduction factor, for rations and for free housing. This is your element, in which you are like a fish in water.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 41
    0
    Quote: el Santo
    The rest of the brothers also split off and go into free swimming. The first are the Bulgarians,

    The first are the Jews.
    Long before the collapse of the USSR and CMEA.
  • the Saint
    the Saint 14 November 2020 09: 16
    -2
    The first is the Russian intelligentsia.
    She left herself, was exiled or executed before the Second World War.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 22: 11
    0
    Quote: el Santo
    The first is the Russian intelligentsia.

    I agree that it is Russian. But, NOT Russian.
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 06
    15
    Quote: el Santo
    The rest of the brothers also split off and go into free swimming. The first were the Bulgarians, then they got the dislike of the Ukrainians and the antipathy of the Montenegrins, the next were the Serbs.

    laughing To lie is not to carry bags.
    Besides lying, you are Overseas, can you anything else? wink
  • the lord
    the lord 13 November 2020 19: 22
    +1
    This is when Czechoslovakia was Russophile? You mean that Czechoslovakia, which produced 25% of all military equipment of the Wehrmacht? Yeah, yeah, and what a Russophile Vaclav Havel was. feast for the eyes))))
  • the Saint
    the Saint 14 November 2020 09: 14
    -2
    Ask Benes Biography
  • the lord
    the lord 13 November 2020 19: 19
    +2
    Eight countries are countries that were actually allies of Hitler. It was there that collaborators ruled. They just lost that war and became famous, that's why they prohibit communism and rewrite history. Meanwhile, in the old Europe, communism is not prohibited, and in some countries the communists are in power. But what do these old Europeans understand, right?
    But about the deportation: Chechens. Krymchaks and Dashnak Armenians from Crimea were taken into exile as punishment for their own and universal cooperation with the occupiers or general sabotage and desertion in favor of the occupier. These peoples have a Gypsy principle of communicating with each other, which means that everyone was aware of the anti-Soviet activists and their plans. But at the same time, the links themselves were not mortally dangerous for the deported and at the same time saved them from reprisals from the front-line soldiers returning soon. And the fact that traitors would be massacred is also proved by the unauthorized reprisals arranged by the neighbors of the Chechens who helped the NKVD in deportation, in one of the villages, as a result of which more than 700 Chechens of both sexes and different ages were killed. Stalin acted wisely and punished and saved the guilty at the same time.
  • Oprichnik
    Oprichnik 13 November 2020 19: 55
    +4
    All the countries you listed were allies of the Nazis, and before WW2 there were fascist regimes in these countries. Therefore, whose cow would moan, and this ... you need to be silent in a rag. It is a pity that Iosif Vissarionovich did not impose an indemnity on these and did not establish an occupation regime there as they deserved.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 39
    +1
    Quote: el Santo
    Hit the pain point

    Masochist? Or worse ...?
  • Thompson
    Thompson 14 November 2020 15: 44
    +1
    To argue with you or make arguments ... thank you, I respect myself, like many others here.
    And this minus is STATISTICS. Agree with you or disagree. But the conclusion is where you go
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 05
    17
    Quote: el Santo
    The statement was signed by Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary and the Czech Republic.

    The statement was signed by the nationalist rulers of the countries that participated in the genocide of the citizens of the USSR.
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 05
    17
    Quote: mister-red
    Really? Are you okay with logic?

    What is the logic of this Foreign country. This is an ordinary Russophobe with knowledge of the Russian language. Whose task is to throw mud at the history of our country.
  • bk316
    bk316 12 November 2020 23: 34
    +7
    the course of history - confirms my point of view.

    You're just a pathetic troll
    They ask you to give proof, because LJ is a trash heap and not proof.
    And you are the "course of history" .....
  • the Saint
    the Saint 13 November 2020 10: 30
    -5
    On, study https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_NKVD_operations
  • nnm
    nnm 12 November 2020 21: 13
    18
    Colleague, this is definitely an application for victory !!!)))
    But .... one "but" ... I opened this order, I read it here and, you will not believe it, I do not see confirmation of your words about the number of those shot ... do not tell me where to find this data? Otherwise, you write these numbers so boldly. You probably know.
  • the Saint
    the Saint 13 November 2020 10: 36
    -3
    Do not fool around. Read and ponder, if so interesting: National operations of the NKVD https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_operations_NKVD
  • nikon7717
    nikon7717 12 November 2020 23: 31
    +8
    National ??? Aha, how! Only in the interests of preserving the state. For instance. My relative commanded an air defense battery during the defense of Moscow. The team consisted of Germans who lived not the first generation in Moscow. As a result, during the first raid, they corrected the battery guns. They were taken to the KGB in the morning. This is the truth of transmigration. And not deceitful obtaining of documents without real reasons.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 45
    0
    The most democratic of the democratic Americans in the Second World War, all American Jupps were collected in concentration camps.
    But, also - democratic ...
    Oh, Stalin, don't ...
  • Alf
    Alf 13 November 2020 21: 25
    +3
    Quote: el Santo
    Deported Crimean Tatars, Poles, Germans, Chechens and Ingush, residents of the Baltic States ... only about 3 million.

    And they were all white and fluffy ..
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 12 November 2020 19: 46
    -15 qualifying.
    Italy under Mussolini, Spain under Franco, and Portugal under Salazar also did not deal with them. Spain and Portugal even hosted Jews. There is a huge difference between Fascism and Nazism. "I have no Jews, I have all Italians" - Benitto Mussolini
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 20: 41
      11
      Italy under Mussolini, Spain under Franco, and Portugal under Salazar
      They actively supported Hitler who was doing this. It turns out that I didn't kill him, I held him while they cut his throat. Without them, the Third Reich would have grunted at 43rd maximum and could not have turned around.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 12 November 2020 21: 04
        -10 qualifying.
        Was ITALY helping Germany? Are you serious? Excuse me, what engines did the Italian Fighters Mackey, Fiat fly? In German. What did Italy supply to Germany? Lemons? ("The most rotten lemons are always from Italy" - Senior Scribe Vanek). Maybe oil? No, Italy did not supply oil to the Germans, but the United States through Argentina, Brazil and Portugal is very much yes (see the Book "Trading with the enemy". Oh yes, Franco sent the "Blue Division" to the Eastern Front, having gathered there the most violent He was allowed to calmly steer (and taxied until the 70s). How many divisions did Italy put on the Eastern Front and how many "Freedom-loving France"? Well, before you write something, well, take the trouble to learn some materiel. Salazar and Franco, too. By the way, Hitler seriously suspected that Duce and Franco had Jewish roots. Which was confirmed. Both of the Marrans (Jews were baptized), as well as Casto and Che Guevara :-). It was GERMANY that had to constantly pull Italy out of Luga. Starting in Greece. The Italians were very pleased with the improvement in life under Mussolini, but they categorically did not want to fight. By the way, the Irish, as soon as the war began, sent England, the USSR and the United States through the forest, declaring neutrality and interning everyone who came to them. And I can quite understand the Irish, since the Britons belonged to them, I am surprised that Ireland did not join the Axis countries at all. So the Irish also ... didn't fight much. And as for the Jews, the French themselves willingly reduced their Jews to zero, without the help of the Gestapo or the SS. I generally keep quiet about the Romanians.
        1. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 13 November 2020 02: 40
          +7
          For example, from 1941 to 1943 the Italians fought against us. how they fought the tenth question, but they added fireworks. and how many ... at least 3 buildings only Italians. few?
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 13 November 2020 03: 54
            -3
            They fought to fight, I repeat, France and the Czech Republic supplied Hitler with much more than Italy. "Without Italy, Germany would have surrendered in 1943" as one person wrote here. CHA-GO? How did Italy help so much that it delayed the end of the war by 2 years? Super planes? Well yes, McKee205, Fiat 55, Reggaine 2005 were good fighters. Very good ON GERMAN MOTORS. Not Messers flew on Italian motors, but Italians on German ones. Who supplied the engines to whom? Tanks? Do not make me laugh. Maybe with oil? No, oil came from the United States through Argentina and Brazil and Portugal. Iron ore - no, this is "neutral Sweden". Electronics? Trucks? No trucks for the Germans were made by the French and the Czechs. The contribution of Italy (and especially Spain) to the war against the USSR was MINIMUM. I am not defending Fascism, but Fascism and Nazism are completely different things.
          2. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 13 November 2020 11: 53
            -1
            [quote especially Spain] [/ quote] Without the mercury of the Almaden mine (the most productive in the world and in history), the Wehrmacht would have led a blitzkrieg with flint muskets. There are no capsules without mercury. And then no one had mercury in such quantities. Without Portuguese tungsten (PT shells), the losses of Soviet tanks would have been much smaller. But German technology (and indeed all metal) would be very small - a high-speed tool made of it is irreplaceable in factories and constantly requires replacement due to wear. By the way, Salazar accepted gold bullion as payment from Hitler. And later it turned out that some of these slicks were mined in concentration camp crematoria.
          3. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 13 November 2020 12: 03
            0
            Italy helped so much
            Italian soldiers in secondary directions and in the rear made it possible to free up really combat-ready German divisions for battles in decisive directions. They were not at all extras. Still, the material assistance of the two "Sephardic" (Hg and W) was critical.
  • nnm
    nnm 12 November 2020 20: 59
    14
    This is yes! One nation, one people, one Fuhrer .... do not you see any analogies in such "different" ideologies?
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 13 November 2020 01: 59
    +4
    Italy under Mussolini, Spain under Franco, and Portugal under Salazar also did not deal with them. Spain and Portugal even hosted Jews. There is a huge difference between Fascism and Nazism. "I have no Jews, I have all Italians" - Benitto Mussolini
    My friend, you are sick.
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 08
      15
      Quote: 72jora72
      My friend, you are sick.

      No, he is not sick. The patient can be identified. And here everything is much worse. It looks like we are dealing with an idiological supporter of Nazism.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 15 November 2020 06: 51
        -1
        Quote: Red
        an idiological supporter of Nazism.

        And Nazism is a German form of fascism.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 49
    +2
    Quote: Baron Pardus
    "I have no Jews, I have all Italians" - Benitto Mussolini

    And how many Jews (true) fought in the Wehrmacht? How many of them served the Hans in concentration camps, in ghettos?
    How were they better than our traitors? They were worse than them.
    1. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 14 November 2020 10: 27
      0
      There are few Jews, as a rule assimilated and disguised, but there are enough Mishlings. I read the memoirs of such a Jew - a Wehrmacht tanker. Ethnic Jew, but his family was assimilated almost during the Franco Prussian War. He said that sometimes Soviet prisoners of war betrayed Jews and commissars from their ranks, but they did not betray him, their own people, who knew about his roots. I do not know whether this tanker is making a mistake or not, but this is in his memoirs. In the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine, many orders were generally scored. There is an excellent article "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers". Half-breed Jews did not feel like Jews at all. An episode is described when the father left for Israel and the son - Hauptmann Panzerwaffe - remained in Germany and said to his father "Someone must restore OUR country." In the Italian army, Jews served without problems. Especially the crosses. They, like that tanker, felt themselves to be Italians, not Jews. EMNIP, after the war, they counted - there were many Jews in prisoners in the USSR, usually from the Italian Army and the army of other countries. In my life I have crossed paths with such people more than once. People come to the United States saying like "I'm a Jew, I was persecuted in the USSR for my religion," but having arrived in the United States very quickly becomes either a typical American yuppie or a typical American Redneck. Especially if he served in the army. There is such a concept, assimilation. A person simply ceases to feel like a part of one ethnic group, and culturally and ideologically becomes a part of another ethnic group. In US history happened when white preferred to become Indians, even those said "he went native", a sufficient number of white teenagers from the suburbs, identified "cultural" with black, they are called Wigger (White Nigger), this is especially funny when the teenager puny , and has never been in a fight, but acts as if he were OG Personally, I know two immigrant Jews who became Indians, entered the tribe, took Indian wives. And nobody's. They live. For example, I am a half-breed, Mischling. Father is Jewish, mother is Russian. Although I absolutely do not give up my Jewish roots, I am much dearer to Russian culture, and even Ukrainian (Grew up in Kiev). I absolutely do not like Freilekhs, as well as Shalom Aleichem, but "He sticks out from Kobzon, he pity Mumu" is almost about me :-). It happens. Understand that you can be born by anyone, but if you have assimilated, you are already a part of ANOTHER ethnos and culture.
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 22: 07
        0
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        "I am a Jew, I was persecuted in the USSR for my religion," but after arriving in the United States very quickly becomes either a typical American yuppie or a typical American Redneck

        When they asked me (mostly this happened in the 90s): "Oh, you are not by any chance Evgei ...?", Then I answered according to the canons: "We all descended from Adam and Eve ...". :)
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 07
    14
    Quote: Baron Pardus
    There is a huge difference between Fascism and Nazism.

    Oh, a connoisseur of right-wing radical political trends ... It's a pity the front-line soldiers who are now alive are very old. If they were younger, they explained to you what is the difference between Nazism and Fascism.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 12 November 2020 20: 01
    -24 qualifying.
    Quote: Shahno
    Was Soviet Russia not engaging in ethnic bullying based on state interests?

    If you just know the definition of fascism, then Soviet Russia clearly has certain fascist features, especially in the first decades of the USSR
    1. nnm
      nnm 12 November 2020 21: 01
      16
      Come on ?!))) And, excuse me, can you name at least some significant states that do not have these features? I propose to start with a sign of the struggle against workers' unions)))
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 15 November 2020 07: 04
        -1
        Quote: nnm
        Come on ?!))) And, excuse me, can you name at least some significant states that do not have these features? I propose to start with a sign of the struggle against workers' unions)))

        But what is trifling, you can start from ancient Egypt - just find signs.
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 12 November 2020 21: 10
      15
      Quote: RUSS
      If you just know the definition of fascism, then Soviet Russia clearly has certain fascist features, especially in the first decades of the USSR

      Justify. What definition of fascism do you prefer? Does Dmitrov suit you? Where in Soviet Russia did you see, for example, the merging of commercial, industrial and financial capital?
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 13 November 2020 06: 55
        +3
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Justify. What definition of fascism do you prefer? Does Dmitrov suit you? Where in Soviet Russia did you see, for example, the merging of commercial, industrial and financial capital?

        Posner is a very cunning beast. When he mentions generalities, he does not specify them. Thus, it will be true to compare a fascist and a communist in terms of having a head, two arms and two legs.
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 51
          +1
          Quote: Hagen
          Posner is a very cunning beast.

          Notice that everyone has already forgotten about him in the discussion.
          Here is his role. Provocateur.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 13 November 2020 07: 56
        -12 qualifying.
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Where in Soviet Russia did you see, for example, the merging of commercial, industrial and financial capital?

        Signs of fascism similar to the ideology of young Soviet Russia - militarism, anti-liberalism, revanchism and leaderism, expansionism, contempt for electoral democracy and liberalism.
        An anti-bourgeois, anti-clerical or at least non-clerical movement that aims at national and social unification through a single party and corporate representation.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 13 November 2020 10: 44
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          Signs of fascism similar to the ideology of young Soviet Russia - militarism, anti-liberalism, revanchism and leaderism, expansionism, contempt for electoral democracy and liberalism.

          Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialist elements of finance capital. Fascism is not a supra-class power and not the power of the petty bourgeoisie or the lumpen proletariat over finance capital. Fascism is the rule of finance capital itself. This is the organization of terrorist reprisals against the working class and the revolutionary part of the peasantry and intelligentsia. Fascism in foreign policy is chauvinism in its crudest form, cultivating zoological hatred against other peoples
          This definition of fascism given by Dmitrov has become a classic.
          Quote: RUSS
          An anti-bourgeois, anti-clerical or at least non-clerical movement that aims at national and social unification through a single party and corporate representation.

          Where did you see corporate government? Where did you see national and social unification through a single party in the Soviet state? The union was originally based on class. If you do not own the topic, it is better not to say anything. Why are you pouring slop on Soviet Russia, and not knowing the topic at all? Do you like being in a company with pozners, Svanidze, Chubais? I understand their fear, but what are you afraid of?
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 58
            0
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Fascism in foreign policy is chauvinism in its crudest form, cultivating zoological hatred against other peoples

            Especially if you take Adolf and his ancestry. And not one of the top.
            Already, "Germans", here is the people, so - the people.
            The word "fascism" has been worn too much lately. Made of bandits, just a scarecrow. From the concept, they made a seal. Whoever we want, we will "print" the fascist, and everyone must support.
            Yeah ...
  • Nemo1976
    Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 04
    19
    Quote: Shahno
    Was Soviet Russia not engaging in ethnic bullying based on state interests?

    No, I didn't. The USSR was a multinational home for representatives of more than 100 peoples and nationalities.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 12 November 2020 21: 01
      -24 qualifying.
      Quote: Nemo1976
      No, I didn't. The USSR was a multinational home for representatives of more than 100 peoples and nationalities.

      Tell this to the peoples: Koreans, Germans, Finnish-Ingrian Karachais, Kalmyks, Chechens, Ingush, Balkars, Crimean Tatar and Meskhetian Turks.
      1. not main
        not main 12 November 2020 23: 28
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        Tell this to the peoples: Koreans, Germans, Finnish-Ingrian Karachais, Kalmyks, Chechens, Ingush, Balkars, Crimean Tatar and Meskhetian Turks.

        What's the problem? Was any of them oppressed? By the way, an Ingrian, for a Finn, as a Jew for us!
        1. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 13 November 2020 12: 17
          +2
          Quote: non-primary
          By the way, an Ingrian, for a Finn, as a Jew for us!

          And in more detail, you can, what does it mean, what you wrote?
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 00
            0
            Quote: andreykolesov123
            And in more detail, you can, what does it mean, what you wrote?

            Can I answer for a friend? Thank you ...
            Beetle.
      2. Oprichnik
        Oprichnik 13 November 2020 20: 12
        +1
        RUSS - it's strange to hear this from you ... During the war, all these small peoples became objectively enemies of the USSR due to their stupid and destructive hypernationalism and Russophobia. And that is why they were evicted preemptively. Note - not cleaned up, but evicted. !!!. And the liberals scream about cruelty ... But here you have to wonder at the inconceivable and boundless humanism of Comrade Stalin towards these ...
    2. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 14 November 2020 10: 35
      0
      My father, who, upon entering the Kiev Conservatory, was told in plain text "While I am the rector, all Iosifovichs will not learn from me" would absolutely disagree with you. In Vladimir, Dad was accepted WITHOUT ANY talk, but "an unpleasant aftertaste remained." His brother was not accepted into the KPI either. He left for Minsk, and was accepted there without any problems. The problems WERE. Especially among the owners of the 5th column. Father was FOREVER grateful to the teachers in Vladimir, but he hated Ukraine and Ukrainians, however, given the stories of my grandfather, who chased the Bandera people up to 47 years old, and whose family was massacred not by the Germans, but by the Ukrainians, I am not surprised. What the rector of the Kiev Conservatory said to his father is not forgiven and is not forgotten
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 12 November 2020 21: 43
    11
    Quote: Shahno
    Was Soviet Russia not engaging in ethnic bullying based on state interests?

    Tell me why you have such a question? You are probably hinting at the resettlement of Chechens, Ingush and Crimean Tatars? If you study the history of this issue, you will see that otherwise almost all the male population of these nationalities would have to be transplanted.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 13 November 2020 07: 57
      -9
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      you will see that otherwise almost the entire male population of these nationalities would have to be transplanted.

      And what about children, women and old people?
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 13 November 2020 11: 00
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        And what about children, women and old people?

        In your opinion, it was necessary to send men and women who were the same accomplices of the fascists into exile, and leave children and old people? What would you do?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 13 November 2020 18: 42
          0
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          In your opinion, it was necessary to send men and women, who were the same accomplices of the fascists into exile, and leave children and old people?

          Ask Kadyrov a question?
          One pseudo-historian was bored with nonsense to apologize.
          The military historian Igor Pykhalov, the author of the publication, where he substantiated the need for Stalin's deportations in 1944 with massive anti-Soviet activities in the Caucasus and Crimea, came to Ingushetia and publicly repented for his words against the Ingush. Mayor of Magas Beslan Tsechoev announced this act of Pykhalov in his Instagram.

          “The famous Russian historian Igor Pykhalov came to visit us. This is the second visit of Igor Pykhalov to our beloved Ingushetia. Igor Pykhalov is the author of a number of books on the history of our country, including the Great Patriotic War. At one time, he wrote books that justified the deportation of peoples, including the Ingush people. Igor Vasilievich Pykhalov changed his point of view, having become more familiar with the glorious history of the Ingush people. He understood that the Ingush people were and remain faithful to that conscious historical choice of our wise ancestors. The Ingush have always been distinguished by loyalty to duty, responsibility, patriotism and courage, ”wrote Tsechoev.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 13 November 2020 19: 07
            +3
            Quote: RUSS
            Ask Kadyrov a question?

            Do you think he should be an authority for me? Maybe he is a good man, I don't know, I am not familiar with him, but as a historian he does not impress me)))))
            Quote: RUSS
            arrived in Ingushetia and publicly repented for his words regarding the Ingush ...

            It is difficult for me to condemn him, or not to condemn, I don’t know how it was in reality. He wrote about threats to his relatives. It is difficult to say what I would have done if some kind of "tsapok" threatened to cut my family out.
  • the lord
    the lord 13 November 2020 19: 05
    +2
    No, I didn’t do it on a national basis. Chechens. Krymchaks and Armenians-Dashnaks from Crimea were taken into exile and desertion in favor of the invader as punishment for poor and universal cooperation with the occupiers or general sabotage. These peoples have the Gypsy principle of communicating with each other, which means that everyone was aware of the anti-Soviet activists and their plans. But at the same time, the links themselves were not mortally dangerous for the deported and at the same time saved their reprisals from the front-line soldiers returning soon. And the fact that traitors would be massacred is also proved by the unauthorized reprisals arranged by the neighbors of the Chechens, who helped the NKVD in deportation, in one of the villages, as a result of which more than 700 Chechens of both sexes and different ages were killed. Stalin acted wisely and punished and saved the guilty at the same time.
  • Thompson
    Thompson 14 November 2020 15: 36
    +2
    I think the number of pluses and minuses answered your question convincingly enough
  • Turanov
    Turanov 12 November 2020 19: 33
    +7
    Quote: Tatiana
    This is not "oddities" in Posner, but a SKILLED political PROVOCATION against present-day Russia.
    And when?! When Russia, at the invitation of the belligerents, brought its Russian peacekeepers into Nagorno-Karabakh !!!

    It is Tatyana who is doing it a lot! How and suddenly Russia is a peacemaker .. At her, etc.
    Now they are all activated under Baydan, their time has come ..
    Quote: Tatiana
    For to call Soviet Russia with "fascist features" now is essentially an instigation of the divorced parties in the form of permission to shoot and kill the Russian peacekeeping servicemen who are spreading them.

    Feel free to speak out !!! good But in fact you are right .. This is a secret and veiled call!
    How much anger is this against Russia .. (read his memoirs ..) There is so much chosenness and contempt .. You need to drive him with a nasty broom from Russia
  • figwam
    figwam 12 November 2020 20: 39
    11
    but to a certain extent Soviet Russia had certain fascist features.

    Apparently Comrade Posner thinks that in the USSR the front seats on the bus were occupied by Russians, and at the end by all other nationalities.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 12 November 2020 21: 06
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    This is, in fact, a SERIOUS hostile PROVOCATION not just from the United States in the person of Posner, ...

    As the saying goes, "there is nothing to blame on the mirror, since the face is crooked." The USA will be enough to blame all our troubles. Our government, which received its assets as a result of criminal privatization, cannot but present the USSR as a criminal state. Otherwise, its actions to destroy the legacy of the USSR will deprive it of its legitimacy in the eyes of the people. Pozdner is not the only one pouring slop on the USSR? His campaign is "worthy", this is Chubais and Svanidze, and there are many of them, Putin said not so long ago that the USSR produced nothing except galoshes. If you carefully analyze Surkov's article "Putin's Long State", then you can see there calls for the construction of a fascist state, only he calls it differently. And equating communism with fascism will inevitably lead to a revision of the Yalta agreement, and, as a consequence, a revision of the post-war borders of the USSR and, accordingly, Russia.
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny 15 November 2020 01: 58
    15
    Quote: Turanov
    He is even worse than Judas humpback and people like him

    Such as posner and gms are the real enemies of the people. But unfortunately, we have not those times, they are not imprisoned now. Our authorities respect people like posner.
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny 15 November 2020 01: 59
    15
    Quote: Turanov
    It's time to clean up "our media", so much dirt is being poured on Russia again and I think they will not have time

    If this requirement is sent to different power structures, it will meet a wall of misunderstanding. No one will deal with the media, because we should not forget that we have liberals at the head of state.
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  • Alf
    Alf 12 November 2020 19: 43
    +2
    Quote: lexus
    I would like to hear yesterday's "patriots" about this.

    , Lexus!
    4 "patriots" have already answered you with minuses, they were afraid of words.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 12 November 2020 19: 51
      0
      Ave, Alfus! hi
      And they have nothing to say. Yes, some are simply not able to. For whom the "kukukha" has completely "left", the rest are "obsessed" from birth. Both those and others will have a long sleepless night until the pads on the fingers are abraded. fellow
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 12 November 2020 20: 30
        -4
        ... some just can't.

        SchA, under the dropper they roll around and with renewed vigor ... how much the Claudia can withstand. laughing
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 November 2020 21: 20
          -3
          The main thing is not to forget to eat thoroughly. So that the "cartridges" are enough. laughing

      2. nnm
        nnm 12 November 2020 21: 27
        +5
        Colleagues, what are we talking about? I missed yesterday's dialogue ... hi
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 November 2020 21: 29
          -1
          We are about those who can not answer anything intelligible, but only "cons" molds. hi
          1. nnm
            nnm 12 November 2020 21: 37
            14
            Well, dear colleagues, you are so naive! I have reached such epaulettes, but everyone believes in an honest dialogue! The site has long gone outside of Russia in the profile environment, and therefore has become the object of attention of both external enemies, and internal, and stubborn fellow citizens (it is not for nothing that they have been washed their heads for so many years). So that .... let them minus as much as they want ... our cause is right! The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 12 November 2020 22: 06
              +1
              "There is no reception against the crowbar." (FROM)
              Enemies - to the answer! And the wordless just smile. drinks
              1. nnm
                nnm 12 November 2020 22: 08
                +7
                I agree from A to Z !!! If the enemies minus us, then we are doing everything right! drinks
              2. Sofa expert
                Sofa expert 13 November 2020 02: 01
                +2
                There is no reception against scrap, if there is no 2nd scrap
    2. Oprichnik
      Oprichnik 13 November 2020 20: 16
      +2
      Ave Cesar! - This is a normal greeting of legionnaires when meeting with the emperor.
      1. Alf
        Alf 13 November 2020 21: 29
        +2
        Quote: Oprichnik
        Ave Cesar! - This is a normal greeting of legionnaires when meeting with the emperor.

        The miners do not know this, all their knowledge of the history of Russia is invested in the period 1991-2020.
      2. Alf
        Alf 13 November 2020 22: 14
        0
        Quote: Oprichnik
        Ave Cesar! - This is a normal greeting of legionnaires when meeting with the emperor.

        Not only with the emperor, the statutory military greeting.
        I apologize, I put the DSLR, here is the correct photo.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 12 November 2020 20: 34
    11
    Quote: lexus
    with regard to Posner, it's time to say "take that shit away immediately"

    I look at the photo at the beginning of the site, and immediately the thought "So this is Biydon!" I read "Posner", but how similar. The same unpleasant creature. Came from France, gave shelter, fed, and he spits into the well from which he drinks. What unpleasant personalities, these ... shape-shifters.
    1. the Saint
      the Saint 12 November 2020 21: 03
      -26 qualifying.
      And why did they attack the journalist? He just confirmed the point of view of most countries in the world on both sides of the ocean.
      For example, the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly on July 3, 2009 adopted a resolution equalizing the gravity of the crimes committed by "two powerful totalitarian regimes, the Nazi and the Stalinist." In the same resolution, the day of August 23, the date of signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, was proposed to be made a day of remembrance for the victims of Stalinism and Nazism.

      The resolution passed despite protests from Russia, which traditionally accused the authors of the document of falsifying history.
      1. nnm
        nnm 12 November 2020 21: 29
        19
        This is the same OSCE, which stubbornly ignores the marches of admirers of SS divisions in the Baltic States and Ukraine ??? Well, that is another standard of impartiality))). Doesn't he notice the glorification of Nazism in these countries? There are no OSCE decisions ... there is a verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal. The rest is political games.
        1. the Saint
          the Saint 12 November 2020 21: 38
          -19 qualifying.
          Condemn. Both the EU condemns and the UN.
          1. nnm
            nnm 12 November 2020 21: 41
            17
            Truth ? And it seemed to me that at the last two meetings of the UN Security Council, the United States and Ukraine failed to vote on the resolution on the inadmissibility of glorification of Nazism? I’m already silent about trifles such as the adoption in Germany in hospitals of the atoms wiped at the cameras, averting eyes from the "non-citizens" of the Baltic states, marches in honor of the SS punishers in the Baltic States and Ukraine .... they were directly condemned))
            1. the Saint
              the Saint 12 November 2020 22: 09
              -15 qualifying.
              Truth. And it seemed. As the people grit, you need to be baptized, if it seems.
              1. nnm
                nnm 12 November 2020 22: 11
                13
                Really! My memory is already letting me down, apparently:
                https://ria.ru/20191108/1560696658.html
              2. the Saint
                the Saint 12 November 2020 22: 22
                -14 qualifying.
                Yeah. The context of the creepy story suits everyone (or almost everyone). US Representative to the Third Committee, Jason Mack, said that his delegation was voting against the resolution because it saw in this document a “thinly veiled attempt to legitimize Russian disinformation” about the glorification of Nazism in neighboring countries. “The United States, which together with our democratic allies made a decisive contribution to the victory over Nazi Germany in 1945, condemns the glorification of Nazism and all other contemporary forms of racism, xenophobia, discrimination and related intolerance,” the US diplomat said. However, he added that his country has consistently supported freedom of expression.

                At the same meeting of the Third Committee of the UN General Assembly, adviser to the Ukrainian Permanent Mission to the UN, Igor Yaremenko, said that the proposed resolution "has nothing to do with the fight against Nazism, neo-Nazism and other forms of intolerance." According to him, "propaganda motives" are hidden behind Russia's initiative. Igor Yaremenko recalled that more than 70 years ago, Ukrainians made a huge contribution to the victory over Nazism, showed tremendous heroism in the struggle for the liberation of their native land and European countries.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 12 November 2020 23: 06
                  +9
                  Just great! Some under the cover of propaganda, others, ziguya Bandera broadcast about the Victory Day propaganda prohibit the persecution of Nazism! Just wonderful and worthy of respect.
                2. Alf
                  Alf 13 November 2020 21: 32
                  +3
                  Quote: el Santo
                  Igor Yaremenko recalled that more than 70 years ago, Ukrainians made a huge contribution to the victory over Nazism, showed tremendous heroism in the struggle for the liberation of their native land and European countries.

                  They were all defeated, and in the Red Army there were both the First Ukrainian Front and the Second Ukrainian, and they all consisted only of Ukrainians ...
                3. Chervonny
                  Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 10
                  15
                  Quote: el Santo
                  in this document, "a thinly veiled attempt to legitimize Russian disinformation" about the glorification of Nazism in neighboring countries

                  Isn't that so? And who does not name the streets after the names of the Nazis?
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 12 November 2020 21: 58
        +9
        Quote: el Santo
        For example, the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly on July 3, 2009 adopted a resolution equalizing the gravity of the crimes committed by "two powerful totalitarian regimes, the Nazi and the Stalinist." In the same resolution, the day of August 23, the date of signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, was proposed to be made a day of remembrance for the victims of Stalinism and Nazism.

        These are the first timid steps to revise the boundaries of the post-war world set by the Yalta Conference.
        1. the Saint
          the Saint 12 November 2020 22: 11
          -12 qualifying.
          Exactly. This is the German revanchism of the warmongers, as the only correct teaching taught, for it alone is correct.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 12 November 2020 22: 21
            +7
            Quote: el Santo
            Exactly. This is the German revanchism of the warmongers, as the only correct teaching taught, for it alone is correct.

            You are needlessly ironic. German revanchism has not gone anywhere, and this is a completely natural phenomenon. However, it's not about him. It's just that today Russia is weak, and the weak are beaten. Including in this way.
            1. the Saint
              the Saint 12 November 2020 22: 35
              -11 qualifying.
              Strength is above law. (C) And what will make Russia with its rapidly dying out and impoverished population strong - is it possible that the additional growth of the already prohibitive number of security officials per capita and the further growth of military and police spending, which already significantly exceeds the percentage of GDP adopted in civilized and developed countries?
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 12 November 2020 22: 53
                +5
                Quote: el Santo
                And what will make Russia with its rapidly dying out and impoverished population strong

                Change in the socio-economic formation. Do you have a different opinion?
                Quote: el Santo
                accepted in civilized and developed countries?

                Which countries do you consider as role models?
                1. the Saint
                  the Saint 12 November 2020 23: 05
                  -11 qualifying.
                  They already lived under a different formation, and again much worse than those countries, why that formation has outlived itself, and Soviet citizens relished jokes, such as
                  - On the coat of arms of the USSR there must be Cupid
                  - Why not?
                  - He, too, with a bare ass, armed and climbs to everyone with his love.
                  -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------
                  Which countries? There are dozens of them. The ones in which the living standards and quality of life of the population are much higher than in Russia. Where democracy has survived nepotism and corruption, where the obligatory change of power ensures all of the above.
                2. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 12 November 2020 23: 27
                  +5
                  Quote: el Santo
                  They already lived under a different formation, and again much worse than those same countries,

                  I lived under a different formation and remember a lot. The late USSR was not an ideal state, but the standard of living of the majority of the population was disproportionately higher than the current standard of living of the majority of the population. Comparison of the standard of living of an ordinary Soviet person with the standard of living of an average US resident strongly depends on what parameters are used to compare. In general, they did not live much worse. Compared to the Federal Republic of Germany, they lived no worse, but in some ways better. We were on a business trip in Romania, my father's friends were there, from Germany. However, let's just say, the start and external conditions were very different for us.
                  Quote: el Santo
                  Where democracy has survived nepotism and corruption, where the obligatory change of power ensures all of the above.

                  Listen to libertarians less with Navalny. Not so simple.
                3. Alf
                  Alf 13 November 2020 21: 35
                  +3
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Listen to libertarians less with Navalny

                  He cannot but listen to the employer.
                4. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 13 November 2020 22: 09
                  +1
                  hi
                  Quote: Alf
                  He cannot but listen to the employer.

                  The youth. Maybe they will at least start to think, they blow in their ears all sorts of Dudi and the Varlamovs. And the budget, I see, they have a good budget for the channels.
                5. Chervonny
                  Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 11
                  17
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  The youth. Maybe they will at least start to think, they blow in their ears all sorts of Dudi and the Varlamovs.

                  He's Overseas. Broadcasts most likely from the near abroad.
          2. Alf
            Alf 13 November 2020 21: 35
            +2
            Quote: el Santo
            where the obligatory turnover of power ensures all of the above.

            There is one North American country on the ball, in which there are two competing parties, but for some reason the course of this country towards world domination does not change ...
  • Esoteric
    Esoteric 12 November 2020 22: 14
    +7
    But I do not like it when this gentleman, in the not so distant past, said "ku" to those in power who hold them for their rich life (remember his first teleconferences, he was a very convinced communist) trips around the world and so on. And then, you see, he refocused himself, realized, and began to "sing" from the screen in a completely different way. Vane.
    1. the Saint
      the Saint 12 November 2020 23: 21
      -7
      I am embarrassed to ask, was Vladimir Vladimirovich himself a communist, but another, not Pozner?
      1. Runway
        Runway 12 November 2020 23: 39
        +1
        No, V. Putin was a member of the Party, and that is not the same as being a communist.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 12 November 2020 23: 16
    +1
    Quote: el Santo
    He just confirmed the point of view of most countries in the world on both sides of the ocean.

    Let him go back to France, or to "these countries" and there it can pour mud, but not where he is fed.
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 11
      15
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Let him go back to France

      Who needs it there? There he will be like everyone else. He will have to work there, and not pour dirt on his country of residence, otherwise he will be encouraged for the dirt on France. And here he, as you rightly said, is also "fed" for this.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2020 17: 29
        0
        Quote: Red
        Who needs it there? There he will be like everyone else.

        On the downside, I see that almost 50% approve of it, the Soros and Prometheists occupy the top positions.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 14
    0
    Quote: el Santo
    And why did they attack the journalist? He just confirmed the point of view

  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 09
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    but how similar. The same unpleasant creature.

    So their expiration date passes. Both. It's time to either throw out or interrupt the labels.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 12 November 2020 22: 18
    +5
    The provocateur openly mocks the Russians from the TV screen.
    1. the Saint
      the Saint 12 November 2020 23: 23
      -9
      We will not allow! We'll smash their dog heads!
  • MTN
    MTN 12 November 2020 18: 36
    21
    Quote: Svarog
    One more got out .. But he was also a Komsomol member and for the sake of foreign business trips, you can see completely different songs sang ..

    Yes you are right. I'm even sure ......... if you blurt out this in front of a WWII veteran, he will even beat this posner on crutches. They did not starve for this and fought and killed their enemies so that this trash could carry such things. This is not the first time I have noticed such jambs behind him. Previously, he was not bad and the further the worse. Obviously he stopped being friends with his head.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 12 November 2020 18: 40
      20
      Quote: MTN
      Previously, he was not bad and the further the worse. Obviously he stopped being friends with his head.

      I think to be PR .. he needs money, but the ruling class tacitly approves such statements .. the more slop on socialism and the USSR, the more confident they feel ..
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          1. Lexus
            Lexus 12 November 2020 18: 59
            14
            Dmitriy hi,
            after Stalin, contrary to the laws of evolution, our "rulers" went in the opposite direction and began to catastrophically "shallow", or more precisely, degenerate.
            1. Squelcher
              Squelcher 13 November 2020 04: 04
              +2
              Eka you applied the communist idea, what kind of idea is it that leads to degeneration and collapse? So Marx was right when he wrote that capitalism will win.
          2. gurzuf
            gurzuf 12 November 2020 19: 02
            10
            What are Posner's distinctly enemy traits ... There is a continuous enemy trait.
      2. Alf
        Alf 12 November 2020 19: 47
        17
        Quote: Svarog
        the more slop on socialism and the USSR, the more confident they feel ..

        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 12
          14
          The fighting was Leonid Ilyich. Respect.
      3. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 15
        +2
        Posner.
        Provocateur.
        Professional. For money. Ideology - zero.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 12 November 2020 19: 05
      +8
      Quote: MTN
      Previously, he was not bad and the further the worse.

      As he was, he remained. It is your view of him that has changed - you have grown a little wiser.
    3. Yura
      Yura 12 November 2020 19: 06
      +5
      Quote: MTN
      if you blurt out this in front of a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, he will beat this posner even on crutches.

      An old dirty trickster, he is not capable of more, and he has enough for bread and butter to make money like that, he seems to get pleasure, he has such self-satisfaction.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 12 November 2020 19: 10
    16
    hi Yes, he did not crawl out, they pulled him out, it was necessary for someone to open their brains with anti-Sovietism.
    1. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 05
      14
      Quote: parusnik
      De-Sovietization is quietly going on and not a single decade

      Especially in recent years, de-Sovietization is gaining momentum. They sense the people's discontent.
      1. Chervonny
        Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 13
        15
        Quote: Nemo1976
        Especially in recent years, de-Sovietization is gaining momentum. They sense the people's discontent.

        They just understand that they are failing and will not succeed. Therefore, they slander our Soviet era.
  • the Saint
    the Saint 12 November 2020 20: 59
    -10 qualifying.
    Quote: Svarog
    But he was also a Komsomol member and for the sake of business trips abroad, you can see completely different songs he sang ..

    Didn't seem to be. There were scouts in the USA. And for what business trips - from America or France to Russia?
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 18
      +1
      Journalist and TV presenter Vladimir Vladimirovich Pozner was born on April 1, 1934 in Paris, France and celebrates his 80th birthday on Tuesday.

      Journalist and TV presenter Vladimir Pozner celebrates his 80th birthday on Tuesday.

      Below is a curriculum vitae.

      Journalist and TV presenter Vladimir Vladimirovich Pozner was born on April 1, 1934 in Paris, France. Mother - a citizen of France Geraldine Lutten, father Vladimir Pozner, the son of emigrants who left Soviet Russia in 1922, worked for the American company Metro Goldwyn.

      In 1934, Geraldine Lutten took her three-month-old son to the United States, where her mother and sister lived, and got a job as an editor in the French branch of the Paramount film company.

      In 1939, his father came to the United States for his mother, and soon the parents returned to France. After the occupation of France by German troops in 1940, the family was forced to leave for the United States again.

      In 1941, Vladimir Pozner Sr., having applied to the Soviet consulate in New York, received a Soviet passport. At the end of 1948, the Posners moved to Germany in Berlin, where their father was offered a job at Sovexportfilm. At the end of 1952, the family moved to the USSR.

      In 1941-1946, Posner Jr. studied at the City and Country School, in 1946-1948 - in Stuyvesant High School, in 1949-1951 - in a special secondary German-Russian school for children of German political emigrants who fled from Hitler to the Soviet Union.

      In 1951 he received a certificate of maturity at the Soviet evening school at the field post office, created for Soviet officers, foremen and sergeants, whose studies were interrupted by the war.

      In 1958, Vladimir Pozner graduated from the Faculty of Biology and Soil Science of Moscow State University named after M.V. Lomonosov with a degree in human physiology.

      After graduation, he was engaged in scientific translations from English, was fond of literary translations of English poetry, which attracted the attention of Samuil Marshak.

      From 1960 to 1961 he was the literary secretary of Samuil Marshak.

      From October 1961 he worked at the Novosti Press Agency (APN).

      Since 1970 - commentator for the main editorial board of radio broadcasting in the USA and England at the Committee on Television and Radio Broadcasting (later the USSR State Television and Radio Broadcasting). He conducted a daily radio broadcast until the end of 1985.

      In December 1985, Posner was the host of teleconferences Leningrad - Seattle ("Summit of ordinary citizens"), in December 1986 - Leningrad - Boston ("Women talk to women").

      In 1986-1991 he was a political columnist for the Central Television of the USSR State Television and Radio Broadcasting.

      Since 1991, Vladimir Pozner, at the invitation of the American television journalist Phil Donahue, has hosted a joint show "Posner and Donahue" on CNBC in the United States, and since 1996 - the author's program Final edition ("Results of the Week").

      At the same time, since 1993, in Moscow, Pozner was the host of the weekly programs "We", "The Man in the Mask", "If".

      In February 1997, Vladimir Pozner returned from the United States to Moscow, where he continued to host the programs "We" and "The Man in the Mask", as well as the radio program "Let's Discuss This" on the radio station "On Seven Hills".

      In 2000-2008 he was the host of the weekly socio-political talk show "Vremena" on Channel One.

      In 2007-2008, as a commentator, he took part in the show "King of the Ring" on Channel One (the first and second seasons).

      From February to May 2008, Channel One aired a weekly cycle of programs "One-story America" ​​with the participation of Vladimir Pozner and TV presenter Ivan Urgant.

      Since 2008 - the author and presenter of the Posner program on Channel One.

      In 2009 he released a series of programs about France "Tour de France".

      In 2011, Vladimir Pozner was the host of the Bolero program.

      In 2012, his cycle of programs about Italy "Their Italy" was released on Channel One.

      From April to September 2012, he was a presenter on the Dozhd TV channel in the TV show Parfenov and Posner.

      In December 2013, Posner signed a contract with the American television company NBC for daily broadcasts to cover the Sochi Olympic Games.

      Vladimir Pozner is the author of several books. Farewell to Illusion (1990) and Witness (1991) were released in the US. After the programs were shown, the books "One-Story America" ​​(2008), written by Posner together with the American documentary filmmaker Brian Kahn and illustrated with photographs by Ivan Urgant, "Tour de France" (2010), "Their Italy" (2013), were released. In 2012, his autobiographical book Farewell to Illusions was published in Russian with additions.

      In autumn 2013, Channel One showed an eight-part documentary by Vladimir Pozner "The German Puzzle". The premiere of Posner's new film "England in general and in particular" is expected.

      In 1994-2008, Pozner served as president of the Academy of Russian Television.

      Member of the Civil Initiatives Committee.

      Together with his brother Pavel, he opened in Moscow the French restaurant "Geraldine", named after his mother.

      The work of the TV journalist has received many awards. He was awarded the Order of Friendship of Peoples (1994), the Order of Honor (1999), the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, IV degree (2006), and medals. Multiple TEFI laureate.

      In 2009, Vladimir Pozner entered 20 popular TV presenters according to TNS Gallup Media. At the end of 2010, he entered the TOP-15 popular TV presenters in Russia according to TNS Russia, as well as in the top ten of the popularity rating of TV presenters in 2010 according to a survey by VTsIOM and Telenedeli. According to the survey of viewers, conducted by the magazine "Teleprogramma", Posner is one of the ten best presenters of 2011.

      In 2013, the TV presenter was awarded the special prize "For Contribution to Life" by the MUZ-TV television award.

      Vladimir Pozner is married for the third time to Nadezhda Solovieva, the founder of the SavEntertainment company. His first wife was Valentina Chemberdzhi, the second - Ekaterina Orlova. From his first marriage, the TV journalist has a daughter - composer and pianist Ekaterina Chemberdzhi (1960), who lives in Berlin.
      1. tank64rus
        tank64rus 14 November 2020 15: 40
        +2
        You shouldn't expect something else from this major and changeling. The biography is very typical. Not a native of a workers 'and peasants' family. Class theory in action.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 12 November 2020 21: 02
    +6
    Quote: Svarog
    But he was also a Komsomol member and for the sake of business trips abroad, you can see completely different songs he sang ..

    Like the vast majority of Komsomol functionaries, opportunists, shape-shifters. Oh, those Komsomol functionaries of the eighties!
  • Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 12 November 2020 19: 23
    13
    Quote: MTN
    In my old age, I lost my mind with everything.

    That is unlikely.
    A convinced enemy who hates the Soviet Union and everything Soviet, Russia and everything Russian with every fiber of his soul, just blabbed in his old age how much he hates it all.
    Apparently, he felt his impunity.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 24
      0
      Quote: Captain Pushkin
      Apparently, he felt his impunity.

      Most likely vyaknul under the order.
      Who benefits from this? Yes, everyone. And to him and the customer.
      And, if someone asks what, then dump at the address of one of the many registrations. Pretends to be a fool, a pensioner, a citizen "from the risk zone", a sick covid ... or whatever is still in vogue there ...
  • Finches
    Finches 12 November 2020 19: 54
    +7
    Posner has all the traits of a senile ... But, the Nuremberg trials quite clearly defined these traits of fascism and Nazism in legal terms, but psychiatrists clearly cannot keep up with Posner!
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 12 November 2020 20: 04
      12
      Quote: Finches
      Posner has all the features ...

      Scum and asshole.
      1. Finches
        Finches 12 November 2020 20: 06
        +6
        I absolutely support you! Pure agent of influence of the West (USA), whose place is not in the Ostankino studio, but in Solovki - to be completely objective!
        1. Esoteric
          Esoteric 12 November 2020 22: 39
          0
          Come on. What an agent of influence he is. There are no fools to take such an agent for themselves. Would you take him as an agent? I think not, why do you need possible problems on your head.
          All this dirty trick he thinks purely from himself broadcasts, "impulses of the soul" so to speak.
          1. Finches
            Finches 13 November 2020 06: 23
            0
            The agent of influence is not on salary, but by vocation!
  • venik
    venik 12 November 2020 19: 56
    13
    Quote: MTN
    In my old age, I lost my mind with everything.

    =======
    Yes, he did not "go anywhere"! In fact - this is exactly what he always WAS! Just as it should be cosmopolitan - skillfully mimicked, adapting to the external environment. Half-French - half-Jew, born in Paris, spent his childhood in France, the USA and East Germany (GDR). Then he and his family moved to the USSR, graduated from Moscow State University with a degree in human physiology, joined the Komsomol, then the Communist Party ... Then he began to make a career as a journalist ...
    Well, now ... Now he says that he would dream of living in France ... But for some reason he is in no hurry to go there (he probably understands that THERE he is not needed by anyone in FIG!) ...
    Here is such a figure! Ex-"Soviet" person, ex-"Komsomolets" and ex-"communists" (all in quotes), but in fact a banal liberal dermocrat: Vladimir Gerald Dmitry Dubois-Nibouyer Posner (given name at birth)
    What is there to be surprised at?
    1. napalm
      napalm 12 November 2020 21: 23
      +5
      So they have long ago put Stalin and Hitler on the same level. what really wonder creature pozner who lives there and cuts money here. And obhaivaya us.
      1. Chervonny
        Chervonny 15 November 2020 02: 13
        15
        Quote: napalm
        what a creature to be surprised by the pozner who lives there and cuts money here

        This is not surprising. It is surprising that he is allowed to say nasty things about our history and our people.
    2. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 30
      +1
      Quote: venik
      In fact - this is exactly what he always WAS!

      Exactly.
      All his life he "endured us" overpowering himself and thinking about his contribution to their "common cause".
      All this was across his gut, but his gut wanted to eat. It is good to eat, sleep on a soft, etc.
      Now he can afford to "regurgitate" the milk of the breast that has been feeding him for so long, with the look of his "long-term dislike for her" and with the "uterus truth" that has come to him for many years.
      1. venik
        venik 14 November 2020 10: 13
        0
        Good morning, Eugene!
        About:
        Quote: DED_peer_DED
        All his life he "endured us" overpowering himself and thinking about his contribution to their "common cause".

        Well, as if not quite and agree. And that's why: during my life (in general, it was quite long - I found the USSR and "perestroika" with "glasnost" and "criminal capitalism" ....) I saw many people, and I had the opportunity to observe them, so to speak, "in dynamics" ...... And with my own eyes I could observe a very funny (albeit long-known) phenomenon called "chameleon people". Moreover, this "type" is divided into several subspecies:
        1. "chameleons", with a clear inner "core", which, due to unfavorable circumstances, change color, but at the same time try to sneak in "their line";
        2. The same type No. 1, but passive - i.e. they do not "drag in" anything, but wait patiently until the external environment "matches in color" with their beliefs;
        3. "cosmopolitan chameleons": these have no inner convictions at all - they just change color to make it more comfortable. As the saying goes "nothing personal, it's just easier to survive" ....
        As for the posner, it is my deep conviction that he is a typical representative of "subspecies" No. 2! Too cowardly for subspecies number 1, and representatives of subspecies number 3 - do not like to show off - trying to be "like everyone else" .....
        But the posner just resembles a mongrel, which is filled with heart-rending barking only if there is a strong, high fence between her ass and the shoe of a passer-by! Remove the fence - and the mongrel immediately silently "dissolve in the bushes" .....
        What do you think about this, Evgeny? hi
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 22: 09
          +2
          Quote: venik
          but wait patiently until the external environment "matches in color" with their beliefs

          Unfortunately, I don't believe in his "convictions". He doesn't have them.
          1. venik
            venik 14 November 2020 22: 29
            +1
            Quote: DED_peer_DED
            Unfortunately, I don't believe in his "convictions". He doesn't have them.

            ========
            Why not? Thirst fame и money - this is also in a sense "convictions" .... Something like "patriotism of the stomach" or "patriotism of one's own pocket" .... lol
            In addition, there is a strong dislike (or rather contemptuous attitude) towards the USSR and Russia. It can also be seen as a kind of "belief". True, they are as vile as "Vladimir Gerald Dmitri Dubois-Nibouillet" himself ...
            1. DED_peer_DED
              DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 22: 36
              +1
              Quote: venik
              Can also be seen as a kind of "belief"

              I was born in the year of Yuri Gagarin's flight into space.
              During his life, he did not change his convictions.
              Orthodox Christian. Baptized in the 90s of the last century.
              The "Code of the Builder of Communism" included all the Lord's commandments, except "Love the Lord your God as yourself ...".
              During his life, he did not change his political convictions.
              1. venik
                venik 15 November 2020 00: 46
                0
                Quote: DED_peer_DED
                During his life, he did not change his convictions.

                ========
                My friend, this is not about you, but about the pozner. And unfortunately there are many such "posners" in life! That's the trouble! Seen enough of these. Especially when the Union was falling apart such "posners" how many of all the cracks crawled out!
                PS Well, about the fact that you don't change your beliefs, then (my compndir used to say): So we least two! drinks
  • Nemo1976
    Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 02
    +7
    Quote: MTN
    In my old age, I lost my mind with everything.

    He had not previously observed the mind.
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  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 12 November 2020 21: 16
    +6
    Quote: MTN
    In my old age, I lost my mind with everything.

    And there he was not ... he arose under the USSR, and now he is pouring mud on the state, which made a public person out of this blank so that he could live comfortably and broadcast his idiocy on TV.
    Quote: MTN
    You can't say such things.

    For such things, you just need to beat your face, and for a long time and with an educational moment.
    1. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd 13 November 2020 02: 57
      +1
      I do not agree with you dear. unfortunately he has a mind. dirty, petty, but there is. there would be no mind, how could he broadcast his garbage thoughts from the CT channels? which by the way are financed including from public funds.
  • Runway
    Runway 12 November 2020 23: 30
    0
    I am interested in the reaction of the GP and the UK to such a forwarding. After all, it is designed for the generation of the "thumb". But these are those who will shape society in the next five or two years.
    A drop is sharpening a stone ...
    Although this elderly bastard should be given his due - he can stir up the "degree" in the shirnarmass.
    The horse stomp about the deportation of "entire peoples" and mass executions makes us remember the 95th year, when "brought in by order" was in control of the proceedings of the TurkVO military tribunal.
  • iouris
    iouris 13 November 2020 12: 26
    -1
    Quote: MTN
    In my old age, I lost my mind with everything.

    Everything with his mind is in order, he earns. But it's time to put a handkerchief on his mouth. He has already said everything that he could.
  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 13 November 2020 13: 55
    -1
    Well, Posner also has certain features of a degenerate, and what? Now to take his ideas for the truth, he is delirium is the delusion of a liberal who has gone too far from impunity.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 13 November 2020 23: 10
    +1
    I don’t know who he is ...
    In a muzzle so as not to bite.
    So that you do not throw saliva on people.
    And so that the bad does not pull to the mouth ...
  • VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 15 November 2020 06: 01
    0
    So Humpback taught everyone to publicity!
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 12 November 2020 18: 29
    40
    From this point of view, we can safely say that the posner has the features of Hitler. And this statement is even more substantiated than his miscarriage against the USSR.
    1. lelik613
      lelik613 12 November 2020 18: 36
      16
      Yes, the former party organizer definitely has fascist features. It makes sense to offer to lustrate such ...
      1. Nemo1976
        Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 07
        +9
        Quote: lelik613
        lustrate those

        not luster, but the highest measure.
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 12 November 2020 18: 39
      10
      Ivan hi ,
      Judas - he and Judas everywhere. Apart from abomination, it is not capable of anything.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 12 November 2020 18: 42
        23
        He is not a Judas. He's a dummy. Nobody can call him. Not Russian, not American - the tumbleweed is senile.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 November 2020 18: 50
          +3
          Surviving contrary to the canons of natural selection "slurry" something.
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 12 November 2020 19: 02
          +7
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          He is not a Judas. He's a dummy. Nobody can call him. Not Russian, not American - the tumbleweed is senile.

          E. Spitsyn speaks about the same, but shorter and more specific ... his words cannot be cited unfortunately.
        3. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 35
          0
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          Not Russian, not American

          ... In their environment, this is normal.
          Today they are for free, free of charge and out of the kindness of their souls, the breasts that were substituted for them, and when they have grown up they are ready to thrust a knife into it.
    3. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 12 November 2020 18: 45
      20
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      From this point of view, we can safely say that the posner has the features of Hitler.

      As for Hitler, I will not say, but statements that can be equated with fascist ones have sounded from him before. When asked about a privileged nation, he said that it has the right to do so, since according to history they have been persecuted all their lives (Jewish pogroms, etc.) and deserved it. That is, his nation stands above others. If such a statement were made by a Russian, he would already be in prison.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 November 2020 18: 55
        -22 qualifying.
        Quote: Bad_gr
        Quote: Stroibat stock
        From this point of view, we can safely say that the posner has the features of Hitler.

        As for Hitler, I will not say, but statements that can be equated with fascist ones have sounded from him before. When asked about a privileged nation, he said that it has the right to do so, since according to history they have been persecuted all their lives (Jewish pogroms, etc.) and deserved it. That is, his nation stands above others. If such a statement were made by a Russian, he would already be in prison.

        Honestly ... I did not notice fascism in Posner's statements. Maybe Zionism, pride in the nation.
        But from your comments there is a smell of dislike ...
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 12 November 2020 19: 02
          18
          Quote: Shahno
          Maybe Zionism, pride in the nation.

          Putting one nation above others is not pride in a nation. And friendship between nations with such statements is unlikely to be. This is just Article 136, 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 12 November 2020 19: 13
            -19 qualifying.
            Good. Suppose I am not familiar with the activities of Mr. Pozner .... Please provide his worst statement, in your opinion, video, audio, article, book that reflects his Russophobic position, up to the superiority of one nation over another.
            And then I'm here while watching a banal pouring slop ...
            Moreover, with anti-Semitic statements.
            1. Reserve buildbat
              Reserve buildbat 12 November 2020 19: 18
              16
              Well smile
              Let's say I don't care what the posner says. But for insulting my Motherland, I will smash his well-groomed face into the mud with great pleasure. Is that a "smell of dislike" for you too? Let's be tolerant, traitors and other "it" should be respected? laughing
            2. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 12 November 2020 19: 27
              +6
              Quote: Shahno
              Suppose I am not familiar with the activities of Mr. Posner ...

              Likewise. The phrase, the meaning of which I have already written above, sounded from the TV screen several years ago, in some kind of public program, after which this figure does not exist for me, all the more, I do not track his activities.
              Quote: Shahno
              which reflects his Russophobic position,

              And where I write about Russophobia. It was said "has the prerogative over others." That's enough for me.
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 12 November 2020 20: 41
          +6
          Quote: Shahno
          I did not notice fascism in Posner's statements. Maybe Zionism, pride in the nation.
          But from your comments there is a smell of dislike ...

          The UN, at one time, recognized Zionism as a kind of fascism (and the fact that in the changed geopolitical realities the UN mumbled that Zionism and fascism are different "isms" does not cancel this recognition).
          Indeed, there is a smell of dislike for the posers. As well as the constant stench from such posners, which does not add love to them.
        3. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 13 November 2020 03: 00
          +1
          there is still a difference between Zionism and pride in the nation))
      2. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 12 November 2020 19: 51
        +3
        By the way, the Bible says that the Jews are "God's chosen people" type. Read carefully. Well, in the Torah it is written even more directly, they say, "they were created to command, and they will command, and the goyim will serve them." The same Bible says "I came only to remove sins from the House of Israel" to which the Haan woman says, "But even the DOG gets crumbs from the OWNER's table." So Posner is just repeating the Torah and the Bible. Read the original sources carefully. However, Islam is no better. "The faithful are the masters, the unfaithful are the slaves." The "ignorant" pagans of Greece, Rome, Scandinavia, Japan and China did not have this in their religion. So think who is an "ignorant savage" and who is a "civilized man".
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 12 November 2020 21: 31
          +1
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          Read carefully the source.

          You should also read for the Bible consists of two covenants. But I believe that now you have no time for this, you are now prescribed to read Floyd's shoes. This is not anyhow, this is democracy. wink
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 12 November 2020 23: 30
            0
            "I came to take away sins from the house of ISRAEL" (note, ISRAEL, and not some other) in the NEW Testament, but in the old one there are even more interesting things. The "Chosen of God" were engaged in such genocide that Adolf Alloyzovich is a poor student in comparison with them. However, "God's chosen" then were no worse and no better than their contemporaries. REMINDER again, THE NEW TESTAMENT WILL NOT IN ANY WAY ABOVE THE OLD TESTAMENT. Again, read the original sources. And don't worry about what we read here. Enough Americans have already got hold of Mein Kampf. since every Georgie Floyd and those who support them definitely hesitated. When people greet (in the company of "friends") each other with exclamations of "Heil Trump", it is very interesting. Especially when enough people say, "I don't care how Trump wins, just to win." Don't worry about me. I'll be fine. I have more confidence in the stability of the United States than in the stability of "Young Democracy with 30 Years of History". Although, unfortunately, in the future, like you, like Europe, VERY bad times await us.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 13 November 2020 08: 44
              -1
              Quote: Baron Pardus
              REMINDER again, THE NEW TESTAMENT WILL NOT IN ANY WAY ABOVE THE OLD TESTAMENT.

              As if an educational program ... Covenant is a contract. There was an old treaty. Through Jesus the New was concluded. The new always takes precedence over the old. So that cancels.
              Quote: Baron Pardus
              Enough Americans have already got hold of Mein Kampf.

              blah blah blah, and continue to kneel.
              Quote: Baron Pardus
              Don't worry about me. I'll be fine. I have more confidence in the stability of the United States than in the stability of "Young Democracy with 30 Years of History".

              Why would I be worried? To each his own. wink
      3. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 40
        0
        When asked about a privileged nation, he said that it has the right to do so, since according to history they have been persecuted all their lives (Jewish pogroms, etc.) and deserve it.

        What? Persecution? For their beautiful eyes? For their kindness of soul to all peoples who accepted them? For their expulsion (how, why, for what and why?).
        Logics.
    4. Zefr
      Zefr 12 November 2020 19: 14
      +6
      Posner has Goebbels features
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 41
        0
        Quote: Zefr
        Posner has Goebbels features

        Reversely.
    5. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 07
      +8
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Posner has Hitler's features

      Mi not only features Hitler, he also broadcasts according to the precepts of Gebels.
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2020 21: 17
      +4
      Quote: stock buildbat
      From this point of view, we can safely say that the posner has the features of Hitler. And this statement is even more substantiated than his miscarriage against the USSR.

      No, he is far from Hitler ... but to the unfinished Vlasov, just right.
  • 210ox
    210ox 12 November 2020 18: 29
    +9
    Full-length dementia. However, what else to expect from this liberal.
    1. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 08
      +9
      Quote: 210ox
      what else to expect from this liberal

      repentance to all for our history. and he can do it.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2020 21: 18
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      Full-length dementia.

      There is a more capacious definition - gonorrhea with chlomidia in half.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 November 2020 18: 29
    +8
    86 years ... something already ... it's time to rest. Something sparks and closes in the brain ... Well, Mr. Posner ... well, don't we confuse fascism with collectivism?
    1. MTN
      MTN 12 November 2020 18: 33
      10
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      86 years ... something already ... it's time to rest. In the brain, something sparks and closes ...

      WWII veterans would have nailed him for such words ... Even with crutches. People have not seen bread, I am already silent about meat, they fought against those who killed people in gas chambers, and now this is how I spoke. Unambiguously, in my old age, I mistook the coast.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 November 2020 21: 19
        +4
        Quote: MTN
        WWII veterans would have nailed him for such words ... Even with crutches.

        Yes, all old veterans are ancient ... but why their young grandchildren allow this stub to open their mouths about the SOVIET ARMY, that's the question.
    2. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 12 November 2020 19: 56
      +1
      Fascism has features of collectivism. Fashi - Unification. Fascism is an association based on citizenship and the subordination of EVERYTHING to the state. Do not confuse fascism with Nazism (National Socialism). NSDAP National Socialist German Workers Party. There it is similar to fascism, only a national / racist element is added. The presence of an element of collectivism does not equate fascism with socialism. The presence of a central nervous system does not equate birds with mammals. The ability to swim and hold their breath for a long time does not equal dolphins and crocodiles.
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 44
        0
        Fascism has features of collectivism. Fashi - Unification

        I agree.
        And the state of Israel has all the features - separation. Conclusion, there is no fascism and will not be.
  • seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 12 November 2020 18: 30
    +9
    Deprive citizenship and kick in the ass abroad!
    1. MTN
      MTN 12 November 2020 18: 34
      +8
      Quote: seregin-s1
      Deprive citizenship and kick in the ass abroad!

      I will do it and others like him with great pleasure. They love to earn money in Russia and spend in the West. Like this
    2. Voyager
      Voyager 12 November 2020 18: 42
      +4
      Quote: seregin-s1
      Revoke citizenship

      Unfortunately, there was no room for such a good amendment to the constitution, everyone was busy with nullification and fiction in the form of a ban on alienation, which can still be circumvented.
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    3. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 08
      +9
      Quote: seregin-s1
      Deprive citizenship and kick in the ass abroad!

      how kind you are. I would take him to the watchtower without the right to pardon and appeal against the sentence.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2020 23: 40
      0
      Quote: seregin-s1
      Deprive citizenship and kick in the ass abroad!

      For his language, for so many years, he not only talked about deprivation of citizenship, but also for a good time in places not so remote.
      By the way Pozdner is not only a citizen of the Russian Federation ...
      Birthplace Paris, France
      Citizenship France USA USSR → Russia
    5. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 45
      0
      Quote: seregin-s1
      Revoke citizenship

      Whose?
  • mat-vey
    mat-vey 12 November 2020 18: 33
    +9
    To live to 86 years old, to work as a journalist and never know what is fascism, what is communism ... this is a talent, if not more.
    1. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 12 November 2020 19: 05
      +5
      This is not talent, this is a stupid animal anger at the Soviet past of our country.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 12 November 2020 19: 07
        -3
        Quote: Svidetel 45
        This is not talent, this is a stupid animal anger at the Soviet past of our country.

        Well, it means he is talented in this anger - i.e. well above average.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 12 November 2020 18: 34
    +8
    Why aren't you dead when you are little ...
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 12 November 2020 18: 41
      +4
      And abortion is not kosher. what
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 12 November 2020 18: 54
        +4
        Quote: lexus
        And abortion is not kosher. what

        And it's too late to do
    2. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 09
      +9
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Why aren't you dead when you are little ...

      Medicine in the USSR was at the proper level, therefore this enemy of the people did not die.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 12 November 2020 18: 34
    +3
    Maybe he forgot to take the pills?
    1. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 09
      +6
      Quote: sergo1914
      Maybe he forgot to take the pills?

      They didn't put his brains into his head.
    2. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 46
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      Maybe he forgot to take the pills?

      Pirantel?
  • Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 18: 35
    +7
    The state campaign to combat smoking is also a fascist trait. (It was Nazi Germany that began to promote the rejection of this harmful habit) So what?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 12 November 2020 19: 01
      +6
      By the way, in the USSR there was such a poster, I don't remember the plot, but the slogan: "I don't complain about smoking, I smoke myself and I advise you!" and about some cigarettes .. smile
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 19: 06
        +1
        In England, a hundred years ago, doctors recommended smoking - tobacco disinfects the air. good And in the US, back in the 60s, cigarettes were advertised as "recommended by the Association of Physicians." And your example is most likely from the USSR 20x-syllable like Mayakovsky.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 19: 07
          0
          By the way, American doctors recommended Camel.
          1. Alf
            Alf 12 November 2020 19: 50
            +1
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            By the way, American doctors recommended Camel.

            Looks like they bought a couple of houses.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 19: 53
              -1
              What for? yes They paid for the services completely legally - advertising of tobacco was completely legal despite the fact that its harm was known and sufficiently studied.
              1. Alf
                Alf 13 November 2020 21: 38
                +1
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                What for? yes They paid for the services completely legally - advertising of tobacco was completely legal despite the fact that its harm was known and sufficiently studied.

                The person in charge of health advertises a product that kills health ... Involuntarily the question arises about sticky pens ...
          2. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 12 November 2020 23: 33
            0
            Damn, you pay them, they will recommend you a coke, and then they will say, "They say we recommended it in VERY LOW DOSES" or "But we recommended it based on what we knew" ... Money rules everything in a capitalist society. Not you, so another will agree to advertise all sorts of shit. Welcome to childhood books: Dunno On the Moon, Chippolino, The Magic Voice of Jelsomino, and others like them.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 23: 59
              -2
              Damn, you pay them
              Damn, you're not bazaar in a tavern near the station. At least pretend to respect other members of the forum. On the topic, try advertising tobacco now. Just try it. Capitalism does not seem to have gone anywhere.
              1. Skarpzd
                Skarpzd 13 November 2020 03: 13
                +1
                just a change of position. it is now profitable to advertise a healthy lifestyle. but the bulk of advertisers does the same for money))
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 13 November 2020 18: 18
                  -1
                  Quote: Skarpzd
                  just a change of position. it is now profitable to advertise a healthy lifestyle. but the bulk of advertisers does the same for money))

                  Moreover, it is not entirely clear how healthy he is.
        2. parusnik
          parusnik 12 November 2020 19: 23
          +4
          Perhaps V.V. Mayakovsky, just a book once was, Soviet posters, it's a pity that I got lost with numerous moves ... But the slogan, I remember ... Yes, there is V.V. Mayakovsky's PSS, but it's a pity, his advertising slogans are not there ..
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 19: 28
            0
            I asked, before the Second World War, tobacco products were advertised in the USSR openly, like sweets. It is possible that the Nazis came to their anti-smoking campaign at the direction of Hitler, who quit smoking, but it was Nazi scientists who carried out serious medical research on this issue.
        3. Phil77
          Phil77 12 November 2020 19: 30
          +2
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          ... And your example is most likely from the USSR 20x-syllable like Mayakovsky.

          It looks like, but judging by the movie, the advertisement from the forties. It looks like ... hi
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 12 November 2020 19: 34
            -1
            Looked, this slogan was still in use with the king.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 12 November 2020 19: 51
              +1
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              this one was still in use under the tsar.

              I specifically asked, climbed. * Delhi * was produced at the factory named after Uritsky / Leningrad / in the thirties and forties. Alas, I cannot give more accurate data. hi
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 12 November 2020 19: 28
        +4
        Quote: parusnik
        : "I don't complain about smoking, I smoke myself and I advise you!" and about some cigarettes ..

  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 November 2020 18: 36
    +3
    He told himself a couple of terms, but ... for some reason, our "thieves" do not "notice" this! And in the taiga a hoe is already waiting for him, and snowdrifts, which he must scoop regardless of the weather, so that all the nonsense will disappear from his head!
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 12 November 2020 18: 43
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      And in the taiga a hoe is already waiting for him, and snowdrifts

      And I, from one warrant officer, heard the option with a crowbar - to remove snow with a crowbar.
    2. Polymer
      Polymer 12 November 2020 19: 00
      +7
      Quote: Thrifty
      He told himself a couple of deadlines

      Nope. Double standards - they are so double. There are laws against attempts to revise the results of the War, but there are no laws against denigrating the Soviet past. Meanwhile, the CPSU (b), Stalin, the Red Army, and even the NKVD are integral parts of that War and the Great Victory. It turns out that only Victory itself is recognized as unshakable, and the Winners are allowed to be inclined along and across. What do we want from the West if they themselves have a "split personality"? (And the fact that Posner is an adherent of Western values ​​- he has not hidden for a long time)
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 12 November 2020 19: 25
        +7
        There are laws against attempts to revise the results of the War, but there are no laws against denigrating the Soviet past.
        ... This is also tricky. There are good winners, and there are winners who hindered the Victory, i.e. bad ..
        1. Polymer
          Polymer 12 November 2020 19: 31
          +2
          Quote: parusnik
          There are good winners, and there are winners who hindered the Victory, i.e. bad ..

          So I'm talking about "split personality", double standards, in the sense.
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    3. Nemo1976
      Nemo1976 12 November 2020 20: 09
      +8
      Quote: Thrifty
      for some reason our "lawyers" do not "notice" it!

      such they can only "notice" by orders from above.
    4. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 00: 50
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      He told himself a couple of terms, but ... for some reason, our "lawyers" don't "notice it

      Because you put the quotes in the wrong place. Quotation marks should be placed around the word "our", and you are putting legalists around the word. Mistake.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 12 November 2020 18: 39
    15
    Unfortunately, he is not the first and not the last. And nothing will come to him for this. But how is the Soviet Union standing right across their throats ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 November 2020 18: 40
    +6
    Posner is rolling in Biden's footsteps, also out of his mind. So why the hell did he get into the Union, he would live in his America, maybe the Negroes would fix their brains and not flog any crap.
    1. Alf
      Alf 12 November 2020 19: 52
      +4
      Quote: Ros 56
      So why the hell did he get into the Union, live in his america,

      And who will feed him "for so"? They threw the bone, go work it out.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 12 November 2020 18: 43
    +2
    Pozner, like Soloviev, are two sides of the same medal ... Posner speaks to the "highbrow", Solovyov - to the "philistine" ... But in fact, their "owner" is the same ... just work out "their daily bread" ... it can be seen that the control center has descended from the top ... Posner, unlike Solovyov, has at least some shadows of remnants of conscience ... If he wrote so, he himself is disgusted ("somewhere there, deep down ") ... But once the command" Voice! " - here he is and "woof-woof-woof" laughing
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 13 November 2020 06: 39
      -1
      Tell Solovyov this in the eyes, or at least over the phone and see the result.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 13 November 2020 18: 30
        0
        And what and what? Are you hinting that we are not going smoothly with the observance of the criminal law?
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 13 November 2020 19: 29
          -1
          I do not like it when people begin to rinse without reason, and without proof.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 13 November 2020 19: 31
            0
            So what about real estate abroad and business is proving?
            1. Ros 56
              Ros 56 13 November 2020 19: 32
              -1
              I'll prove it to the studio, but you don't need to grind your mind a lot with your tongue.
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 13 November 2020 19: 39
                0
                So he himself thrashes about real estate.


                TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov does not believe that own real estate abroad should prevent a person from feeling like a patriot. He told about this in the first issue of the program "The Fate of a Man", which aired on the TV channel "Russia 1".

                Soloviev had to clarify the situation regarding his own real estate in Spain after an investigation by opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who said that Solovyov owns a villa in Spain, located near Lake Como.

                The TV presenter recalled that he never hid the fact that he was a wealthy person, because he earned money honestly and also "since Soviet times." At the same time, buying a villa near Lake Como turned out to be even cheaper than a house in Rublevka near Moscow.

                Foreign real estate does not prevent Solovyov from remaining a patriot of Russia. "Patriotism is not a written undertaking not to leave the place," Solovyov said, adding that he needed a Spanish villa for a vacation with his large family.

                Solovyov commented on Navalny's post to The Insider: “I'm a rich man, did anyone know about this? I have not seen this text, but I do not really understand what the complaints are against me, that I am not hiding it? I was in business in the nineties and am a wealthy person. I understand that this is haunted by Navalny, but I don't know why extrapolate their complexes to me. Because I did not do business in Montenegro? Well, sorry. Of course, these are all complexes. I do not understand what the claims to me are. Am I an official, a civil servant? No. I'm just rich. "
                1. Ros 56
                  Ros 56 13 November 2020 19: 50
                  -4
                  He stole this property, there is a conversation about something completely different. There are simply people who are not allowed to sleep by other people's successes. And so they start to get angry. And what is he capable of? Of course there are all sorts of thieves, and they need to spread rot on black, but who did not let you learn and achieve something in life. This is the dialectic of life, some at the bottom, others at the top, the question: who put in how much and what efforts for this.
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 13 November 2020 19: 56
                    -1
                    Quote: Ros 56
                    He stole this property

                    And who knows how he "earned" there in the 90s, maybe he was an angel against the general background.
                    Quote: Ros 56
                    question: who made how much and what efforts for this.

                    Yeah, and how many lives.
                    1. Ros 56
                      Ros 56 14 November 2020 07: 46
                      -1
                      Meli Emelya, your week. fool
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 14 November 2020 07: 52
                        -1
                        Quote: Ros 56
                        Meli Emelya, your week. fool

                        Oh, twist - the divine and incomprehensible truth has made us happy with its presence. Well, thank God, at least about the navalnyonka, or anything, and thanks for that.
        2. Alf
          Alf 13 November 2020 21: 40
          +1
          Quote: mat-vey
          And what and what? Are you hinting that we are not going smoothly with the observance of the criminal law?

          Have you just noticed? What does it say about the theft of the roll and the railway?
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 14 November 2020 06: 54
            0
            Quote: Alf
            Have you just noticed?

            I noticed long ago that Orwell wrote about capitalism and not about anything else.
    2. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 01: 00
      +1
      Quote: Corona without virus
      it can be seen that TSU descended from the top

      There is an orientation to discredit those who "lived under the old pressure". The authorities are tired of them and they won't all die out.
      It is necessary to finish them off (pension) technically and morally (for example Posner is one of the ways).
      Oldies understand where the coronavirus "has gone" and confuse young people. Therefore, they need to be on the nail. It is necessary to knock out their foundation from under their feet (socialism, equality, victory in the Second World War, hope for the future, justice, their contribution to the state ...). Equate to fascists, to garbage, to idiots. Break the continuity of generations. Lead the youth in the other direction. Into nothingness, into a virtual machine, into fear - into general fear for everything.
  • Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 12 November 2020 18: 46
    +4
    Tired of like an annoying fly
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 12 November 2020 18: 50
    0
    Liberoid! Suitcase. Airport. France. USA.
    1. gurzuf
      gurzuf 12 November 2020 19: 14
      +3
      Aha! Will go from there. There blacks with Islamists can put it on. Although he is dragging ha, but not sick (another word - they did not miss it). ...
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 12 November 2020 18: 50
    +1
    Moreover, as you can see, Posner does not mean European fascism (Nazism), which the USSR encountered during the Great Patriotic War. He emphasizes that the USSR itself had the "features of fascism".

    European fascism - are these flowers? "Fascism" by Joseph Vissarionich - is that scary? I look forward to hearing from the Jew Yakov Kedmi, whom I deeply respect.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 12 November 2020 18: 56
    +1
    He's just an old, corrupt mrazmatist!
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 12 November 2020 18: 59
      +3
      Quote: Alien From
      He's just an old, corrupt mrazmatist!

      What does age have to do with it? It is consistently corrupt, just megalomania has developed unreasonably.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 12 November 2020 18: 57
    +7
    According to the TV presenter, an 86-year-old journalist, he fears this, but believes that "Russia has already gone through this."
    .... Cheater, and climbed onto the tree, and I picked a block from a birch ..
  • Johann Klassen
    Johann Klassen 12 November 2020 18: 58
    +1
    Old Jewish "Prostitute", with a capital "P".
    And how many times, this "misunderstanding" - the "so-called citizen of the world", supported "vandalism" in the Soviet "memorial cemeteries" in Eastern Europe and the post-Soviet space.
    Those who granted this "Russian citizenship" bear responsibility together with Posner.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 12 November 2020 18: 59
    0
    And it is imperative to post anti-rosmiyskie vyser everywhere and always? After all, this is why very few people know his channel itself and that it broadcasts there too, very few people are interested (there are few other things to do). coverage and number of brains where this heresy can and sit. And what is better than one or a deliberate proliferation in a larger mass? What is the expectation of these (lights), that they will be picked up and spread by others and much more efficiently than they themselves would have tried to bring their dregs to the same number of people. And so it seems that we are trying to please both yours and not quite yours and sit down on two chairs and instill pride in our homeland or not even in ours?
  • Svidetel 45
    Svidetel 45 12 November 2020 19: 01
    0
    Probably, he had a coronavirus with consequences for the brain, Russophobia and rushing from all cracks.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 12 November 2020 19: 04
    -8
    .Fascist states are characterized by the strengthening of the regulatory role of the state both in the economy and in ideology: corporatization of the state through the creation of a system of mass organizations and social associations, violent methods of suppressing dissent, rejection of the principles of economic and political liberalism.

    We try this definition to the USSR and decide for ourselves whether it had any of these features.
    If not, then the insanity grows stronger.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 12 November 2020 19: 18
      10
      smile And applying this formulation,
      The fascist states are characterized by the strengthening of the regulatory role of the state both in the economy and in ideology: corporatization of the state through the creation of a system of mass organizations and social associations, violent methods of suppressing dissent, rejection of the principles of economic and political liberalism.
      to Germany, Italy, Romania and other states of that era, it turns out that these completely non-fascist states went to the holy cause, on June 22, 1941, against the "fascist" USSR ...
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 12 November 2020 19: 27
        -2
        Quote: parusnik
        to Germany, Italy, Romania and other states of that era,

        You see, the wording is correct.
        It also applies to them.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 12 November 2020 19: 50
          +3
          About how! laughing good Apparently, I misunderstood your comment ..
    2. nnm
      nnm 12 November 2020 19: 57
      +7
      Excuse me, are you comparing according to the theory of W.Ekko or Britt? And then I really want to ask the struggle against workers' unions makes all the Western bright democracies fascist or not? Or Macartism is not yet a sign of fascism in the United States? What about the racial theory of superiority in the British Empire? Continue further?
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 13 November 2020 18: 38
        +1
        Quote: nnm
        Excuse me, are you comparing according to the theory of W.Ekko or Britt?

        You understand, when you pull an owl on a globe, you can cut something somewhere and slightly cut it - otherwise it won't fit ... there seems to be anti-communism as well ..
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 01: 02
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      If not, then the insanity grows stronger.

      If yes, then he has nowhere to grow stronger. Paragraph.
  • Romario_R
    Romario_R 12 November 2020 19: 15
    +6
    Posner homosexual ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 13 November 2020 21: 42
      +2
      Quote: Romario_R
      Posner homosexual ...

      Ha, the news was announced .. This has long been known to all those people who have brains in their heads, not a TV set.
  • nonsense
    nonsense 12 November 2020 19: 17
    +1
    lol Duc, it is he himself who hung the time! - = - When Posner was chairman of the party committee one of the editors of the USSR State Television and Radio Broadcasting, he actually collaborated with the Nazis!
    1. faiver
      faiver 12 November 2020 19: 37
      0
      he actually collaborated with the fascists!
      - did not cooperate, namely himself a fascist and was ...
    2. Shahno
      Shahno 12 November 2020 19: 42
      -4
      "was the chairman of the party committee of one of the editions of the USSR State TV and Radio"
      Yes, this is a serious position. Just could have influenced the regime laughing
      Until landing for 5 years ...
  • tech3030
    tech3030 12 November 2020 19: 21
    +1
    Let him go where he came from!
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 12 November 2020 19: 21
    0
    Hmm, in old age, insanity grows stronger!
  • faiver
    faiver 12 November 2020 19: 23
    +4
    Soviet Russia had certain fascist features
    - so we have certain fascist features on our face in the USA, France, Britain, Israel, Austria, the Scandinavian and Baltic countries, in fact, most of the European countries, don't we?
    And to kick a dead lion is a lot of intelligence and courage ... slaps, they have been putting absenteeism in the cemetery for a long time ...
  • faterdom
    faterdom 12 November 2020 19: 26
    +6
    The USA has, and a lot. The British Empire was generally a model for Hitler in many ways, including the concentration camps.
    And today's Russia has, only others - that the old are ballast, the sick are natural selection, have not fit into the market - who is to blame ...
    Social Darwinism.
    But the USSR - only some external manifestations of similarity, and then rather not fascist, but imperial ... architecture, music, mass events - super-efforts for gigantic results and records. So it was in Egypt under Djoser.
    The only question is - why did Posner blur out this?
    Drunk? No. By stupidity? Yeah ...
    No, the fact is that some people began to worry about the phenomenon of "phantom pains" in the USSR among young people who were born after its collapse, and should have remembered that our non-profit media of Koch, Gazprom and other Ernst people invested in them.
    But it turned out the other way around - the opinion is taking root that it was just good and right in the USSR.
    On the one hand, they hear it from their parents. And on the other hand, our native state is trying, all the innovations of which, although accompanied by campaigns of lies and veal delights, but their direction is obvious: he does not need a "violinist", in whose role 90% of the population turned out to be. That is, it’s not that it hates him, no, not at all, but sharing money with him — excuse me — is superfluous, they will "unwind inflation," which we have been "targeting" for so many years.
    This, unfortunately, we have a national idea - "targeting", which in Russian is not enough decent words to say.
    Therefore, we have a new attack on the image of the USSR, because it is easier to give a pozner on a steak with cognac than to add 100 rubles to pensioners
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 01: 04
      0
      Quote: faterdom
      No, the fact is that some people began to worry about the phenomenon of "phantom pains" in the USSR among young people who were born after its collapse, and should have remembered that our non-profit media of Koch, Gazprom and other Ernst people invested in them.

      I wrote above. For young people "tries", exactly.
  • Babayka babaykin
    Babayka babaykin 12 November 2020 19: 36
    0
    The Chosen One is not afraid of anything, his tongue has a pomelo, urgent deportation
  • Shahno
    Shahno 12 November 2020 19: 36
    -4
    Quote: Turanov
    Quote: Shahno
    Was Soviet Russia not engaging in ethnic bullying based on state interests?

    Well, the defender Poznerov and K pulled himself up .. Even answering is disgusting, what yours were doing here in Russia .. hi

    I'm not a protector ... yes
    As I understand it, Comrade Posner does not like the Soviet past.
  • vadim vadimov
    vadim vadimov 12 November 2020 19: 40
    -8
    And here I agree with Pozner, namely Soviet Russia led by Trotsky. Sverdlov. Zinoviev, led the genocide of the Russian population. aren't these features of fascism? after all, Trotsky did not hide the fact that Russia and the Russian people are for him only meat for the implementation of the world revolution. But Stalin coped with it. defeating Trotsky the fascist in Russia, and then dealt with Hitler and Mussolini.
  • deniso
    deniso 12 November 2020 19: 43
    +4
    all Jews adored fascism in the USSR, so Posner became a communist in his youth and praised him from all the stands and at all crossroads ... well, then in the 90s, as usual, he quickly changed his shoes because it became more profitable to pretend to be a liberal
  • Bare
    Bare 12 November 2020 19: 45
    +3
    It is necessary to drive this chicken on. ... ... Let him go to the USA and look for suckers there!
    Nevzorov, Posner guano of one chain. hi
    1. nnm
      nnm 12 November 2020 21: 49
      +2
      In no case! You can't make offended idols out of them! Break down with facts, examples, their own tax returns, etc. Destroy them by your own actions. And then the same Nevzorov is invited to trainings at Gazprom ... moreover, people then just spit, and he is invited again and again, again and again ..
  • APASUS
    APASUS 12 November 2020 19: 56
    +8
    It was possible to omit these words by looking at Posner's age (he is already 85), if you do not know who Posner is!
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 12 November 2020 19: 58
    0
    Posner was referring to classic Italian fascism, not German Nazism.
    Mussolini was a socialist from the workers. And he considered Lenin to be his teacher.
    Then Count D'Annuzio influenced him. Mussolini despised Hitler and his Aryan theories.
    But he had to contact the Nazis to try and drive the British out of
    The Mediterranean Sea, which he considered the "Roman Sea". And he got into trouble.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 01: 16
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Posner was referring to classic Italian fascism, not German Nazism

      You explain this to the Eugopians. Those. this very difference between that and that. Read their laws on the topic. See films where the swastika is covered up, the Heil is being altered, and the Nazis are played by Jews.
      Bring your "light of knowledge" there. Explain to them why so many countries fought with the Soviet Union. Including those robbers representing the USSR on earth
      classic italian fascism
      and who killed our people.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 12 November 2020 20: 00
    -7
    Quote: nnm
    Could you give a few examples of "bullying", colleague?

    The case of doctors, deportation of Chechens and Ingush, deportation of Poles, deportation of Azerbaijanis and Armenians ... continue. I am already silent about dispossession of kulaks in the nat. sign.
    1. nnm
      nnm 12 November 2020 20: 24
      +6
      Yes, I would like to continue. By the way, do not tell me, what caused these "deportations"? Otherwise, I don’t understand why the bloody Soviet regime didn’t deport them for three decades, and then suddenly decided to do it! As it is not logical. Can you help me figure out what is the reason? What was the official justification? And did it have a foundation? Or are they just like in the United States the Japanese were driven to concentration camps and that's it? Dekulakization on a national basis? Wow, you have opened a new page in history for me. And what nationalities were dispossessed exclusively from nationality? By the way, what does the matter of doctors and ethnicity have to do with it?))) And can you tell me who suffered in this case?
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 November 2020 20: 38
        -1
        // what nationalities were dispossessed exclusively from nationality //
        The question is not trivial ... It just happened like this. That the luckiest nation was the one that was sent beyond the Pale of Settlement. She was dispossessed in the first place. Are you surprised?
        1. nnm
          nnm 12 November 2020 20: 41
          +5
          "The most fortunate nation" worked in agriculture?))) Here is some fun .... Excuse me, but you, apparently, do not know at all that the Pale of Settlement is a term from the times of Tsarist Russia? Moreover, it was actually canceled back in 1915. I wonder how then Kamenev, Zinoviev, Uritsky, Uborevich, Kaganovich and so on climbed to the top of power?))) And Alf's colleague guessed what you were driving at)))
          And I correctly understood that you shouldn't expect answers to my questions?))
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 12 November 2020 20: 47
            0
            No, I know ... I'm not saying that the Bolsheviks, God forbid, did it on purpose. It just happened. That serious entrepreneurs in Tomsk turned out to be of a certain nation, and by chance they had a lot of money. And not only in Tomsk, and in Novosibirsk, and in Omsk.
            Ps. I gave you almost part of my family history. laughing
            And yes, they just happened to be there because of the existence of a certain "border of residence".
            1. nnm
              nnm 12 November 2020 21: 45
              +4
              Is it possible without generalizations, but simply indicate specific facts and links to the primary data source? If I want to listen to stories like yours, I'll just go to Echo, Memorial, listen to Bebik or Vyatrovich.
            2. DED_peer_DED
              DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 01: 22
              0
              Quote: Shahno
              and they happened to have a lot of money.

              The wave nailed ...
              Moreover, what is typical, the wave reached Tomsk, Novosibirsk, and Omsk!
              It is necessary to re-read the tablets, when there were SUCH waves?
      2. Shahno
        Shahno 12 November 2020 21: 10
        -1
        // By the way, what does the matter of doctors and ethnicity have to do with it? //
        And you haven't seen the list of the accused.
        Most would be interviewed for repatriation ... No?
        1. nnm
          nnm 12 November 2020 21: 46
          +2
          Once again ... spelled .... name the sanctions applied against the defendants in the "doctors' case"?
          And please use the "reply" function, and do not hide among hundreds of messages.
        2. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 01: 24
          0
          Quote: Shahno
          the case of doctors and nationality?

          And what about this now, is it?
          Yes ... I agree. The "worst of the worst" remained. But, they do exist!
    2. Clone
      Clone 12 November 2020 20: 33
      +2
      Quote: Shahno
      I am already silent about dispossession of kulaks in the nat. sign.

      "And then Ostap suffered ..." (c)
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 November 2020 20: 39
        -2
        Quote: Clone
        Quote: Shahno
        I am already silent about dispossession of kulaks in the nat. sign.

        "And then Ostap suffered ..." (c)

        I answered upstairs ...
        1. nnm
          nnm 12 November 2020 20: 45
          +4
          You didn't answer. They just wrote an incomprehensible set of words and lies. You have there the Pale of Settlement, which ceased to exist in 1915, became proof of the dispossession of Jews - peasants in the USSR)))))
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 12 November 2020 21: 51
            -3
            Quote: nnm
            You didn't answer. They just wrote an incomprehensible set of words and lies. You have there the Pale of Settlement, which ceased to exist in 1915, became proof of the dispossession of Jews - peasants in the USSR)))))

            By the way, if a factory was taken away from a Jew and given to the state, this is not dispossession? It’s just not clear why you restricted everything to peasants. They certainly won't prove anything, right ...
            1. nnm
              nnm 12 November 2020 21: 55
              +7
              And ... sorry, I just did not know that the term "dispossession" refers not to agriculture, but to industry. My mistake, I'm sorry. But then I have a new question - given the fact that all means of production have been nationalized in the Soviets, why do you single out the Jews in a separate category? After all, factories, factories, newspapers, ships were taken from all private owners, regardless of nationality !!!
              1. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED 14 November 2020 01: 26
                0
                Quote: nnm
                why do you single out the Jews in a separate category?

                Therefore, "sho ..."
  • maiman61
    maiman61 12 November 2020 20: 03
    +1
    Posner, does the US not have fascist features? Or does the cuckoo close in old age?
  • vavilon
    vavilon 12 November 2020 20: 06
    +2
    He just has some kind of nonsense to carry so that they would not forget about him.
  • adena
    adena 12 November 2020 20: 08
    +3
    anti-Soviet, always Russophobe.
    1. pereselenec
      pereselenec 12 November 2020 20: 21
      -2
      Quote: adena
      anti-Soviet, always Russophobe.


      Anti-Girondist always francophobe
      Anti-fascit is always italophobic
      Anti-Juche is always a Koreanphobe
      Antifrankist is always a Hispanophobe
      Anti-neronist is always rimophobe
      Antiklementgotvaldovets always Czechoslovakophobe
      Anti-idiamian is always Rwandophobic
      Antipolotist is always a kmerophobe
      Antisogan always a mammal

      wassat
      1. adena
        adena 12 November 2020 22: 13
        0
        Always always! You, too, advice across the throat, so take a look at yourself.
  • bessonov932
    bessonov932 12 November 2020 20: 12
    +1
    They do not allow, oh, such stamps do not allow anti-Semitism in Russia to fade away completely!
  • mag nit
    mag nit 12 November 2020 20: 12
    +3
    This Jew should have been born in Germany ...
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 12 November 2020 20: 15
    +2
    How would he praise the USSR? He lived all his life in the West and only in his old age found himself with us. His statements did not surprise me in the least ... I'm not talking about nationality ...
  • MichMish99
    MichMish99 12 November 2020 20: 16
    0
    As it was a nit, it remains.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 12 November 2020 20: 18
    +1
    What the grandfather wanted to say to me in general terms is understandable, but if we treat the issue with such assumptions, then Posner himself, I think, would have found "certain features" of both Mussolini and Gorbachev. It must be understood that totalitarianism, leaderism and personal cult were inherent in many world states at different periods of history. Having a good demagogic skill and a developed imagination, it is possible for some states to distance themselves somewhat from this, while others, by adjusting the facts, on the contrary, to bring them closer. In particular, if we consider "fascism" as nationalistic tendencies together with the rhetoric of national exclusiveness, racist propaganda and militaristic aspirations outside, then both the British Empire and the United States itself of the early 20th century and up to the late 50s are quite suitable for the definition of fascism.

    And these are not some "certain features" there, but from time to time emerging phenomena like pogroms, lynching, "McCarthyism", forced deportations and violent suppression of strikes, organizing ghettos and segregation, legislative censure of interracial marriages, predatory expansionism and imperialism, and so on, etc. ..

    In general, Poe's grandfather once again sat in a puddle, as for me.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 12 November 2020 20: 19
    -1
    Quote: Nemo1976
    Quote: Shahno
    Was Soviet Russia not engaging in ethnic bullying based on state interests?

    No, I didn't. The USSR was a multinational home for representatives of more than 100 peoples and nationalities.

    Yes, and these times were ... From 50 to 85, But I would not paint with one paint ...
  • businessv
    businessv 12 November 2020 20: 24
    +3
    Calling Soviet Russia a country with "fascist features" is the top, to put it mildly, oddity. After all, one of the pillars of fascism has always been ultra-right views and anti-communism. Not to mention racism ...
    What can you expect from a person who was brought up in the states and, like many others today, only makes money in Russia!
    1. fif21
      fif21 12 November 2020 20: 49
      +1
      Quote: businessv
      What to expect from a state-raised person

      I remember his teleconferences USSR-USA wassat Vtyuhival about mattress values laughing
  • eklmn
    eklmn 12 November 2020 20: 25
    -10 qualifying.
    "After all, one of the pillars of fascism has always been ultra-right views and anti-communism."
    Not only. Genocide against their own citizens, when hundreds of thousands of their own people were seized and shot without trial / investigation, the construction of the GULAG, triple courts and so on. “Dictatorial” democracy.
    It is not for nothing that out of 43 volumes of the Nuremberg Trials only 8 (!) Have been translated into Russian, since at the trial, the German generals justified the creation of concentration camps by the experience of the USSR.
    1. nnm
      nnm 12 November 2020 20: 32
      +7
      Can you tell us more about the hundreds of thousands who were shot WITHOUT trial? Are you sure you are not lying? And what did the GULAG not please? Absolutely the same as the Ministry of Justice and the Federal Penitentiary Service now - also, genocide?)))
      But would you deign to give the primary source of your statement about the volumes of the Nuremberg trials? By the way, which of the processes do you mean? There were a few of them!)))
      1. eklmn
        eklmn 12 November 2020 22: 51
        -4
        “Secrets of the Nuremberg Trials: what are hidden documents not published in Russia. We did not dare to publish the full version of the materials of the trial of the main Nazi criminals ”
        https://www.mk.ru/social/2019/01/31/tayny-nyurnbergskogo-processa-chto-skryvayut-ne-opublikovannye-v-rossii-dokumenty.html
        “But here's the paradox: in no other country - the founder of the Tribunal, its results are presented so poorly as in our country. The first Soviet collection of the Tribunal's materials, which was published in 1952, consisted of only two volumes. The most complete edition in Russian available today is the eight-volume edition, published from 1987 to 1999. By comparison, the English, French and German versions of the court report have 42 volumes. Moreover, they were published almost immediately after the end of the process. "
        Unwillingness to know the inconvenient truth of history leads to the degradation of the nation.
        Denying oneself the question "how could this happen to us?" leads to slavery. Not everyone wants to remain slaves, and when those who ask uncomfortable questions, society and the state, are persecuted by humiliating / beating / imprisoning, they leave ...
        1. nnm
          nnm 12 November 2020 22: 58
          +2
          Once again ... Do not quote other people's words in other people's articles of other people's publications. Either you operate with data from historically significant sources, or dismiss, sir, from this dialogue
    2. businessv
      businessv 12 November 2020 21: 30
      +3
      Quote: eklmn
      Not only. Genocide against their own citizens, when hundreds of thousands of their own people were seized and shot without trial / investigation, the construction of the GULAG, triple courts and so on. “Dictatorial” democracy.

      You have brainwashed propaganda! You would at least occasionally update your knowledge, fortunately, now there are all the possibilities for this, and the archival data has been significantly declassified! Your infa during the collapse of the Union, which was sent to form public opinion of all kinds of radio. Freedom as well. Hanging in that time, colleague? smile
  • Hog
    Hog 12 November 2020 20: 26
    +4
    The Union has grown on its own head such sons.
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 12 November 2020 20: 27
    -3
    Hood spa in action .... What he owes to the current situation as much as possible trolls and omits. Shapiro, Pozner, Satanovsky, Mikheev, and so on are shifters They talk about such people - look in your eyes, everything is God's dew.
    1. businessv
      businessv 12 November 2020 21: 35
      +3
      Quote: lopuhan2006
      Shapiro, Pozner, Satanovsky, Mikheev, and so on are shifters
      You shouldn't be talking about Satanovsky and Mikheev. They are from a completely different cohort, and the rhetoric is completely different. Listen and compare first, then define!
      1. lopuhan2006
        lopuhan2006 13 November 2020 14: 31
        0
        Which cohort?
        1. businessv
          businessv 13 November 2020 20: 39
          +1
          Quote: lopuhan2006
          Which cohort?

          If you don't know why you are writing? I suggested - first listen, read, then write! These two are from the real sector, who are tired of watching and listening to nonsense from politicians and managers. Therefore, they should not be put on a par with renegades without clan and tribe. Yes, also install autocorrection! Cohort is spelled correctly.
          1. lopuhan2006
            lopuhan2006 14 November 2020 08: 52
            0
            Do you seriously consider these two different from the rest? Are those Mikheev and especially Satanovsky as the former chairman of the Jewish Union of Industrialists (somehow, because the fact is important here) are positive heroes for you? Come on!) And Solovyov (Shapiro) then did not please with what?) Or are you in pink clouds, or ......., then in the second case, just know about a different opinion from people and there are many of them)
            1. businessv
              businessv 14 November 2020 20: 11
              0
              Quote: lopuhan2006
              Do you seriously consider these two different from the rest?
              I count to ten and back, but slowly! How many people, so many opinions. Further discussion is not promising. hi
              1. lopuhan2006
                lopuhan2006 15 November 2020 03: 25
                0
                Precisely that only up to ten
  • Clone
    Clone 12 November 2020 20: 29
    0
    Ndaaa ... and after all, you can't even swear, but in fact the lid of the brow really ripped off. Moreover, from permissiveness.