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"She went to the bottom due to unnamed problems": a film about the filming of the submarine "Kursk" 20 years ago

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"She went to the bottom due to unnamed problems": a film about the filming of the submarine "Kursk" 20 years ago

More than 20 years have passed since Russia was shocked by the news of what happened to the Kursk submarine.


People of the middle and older generations remember very well how for several days in a row they literally did not leave TV screens in order to find out about the fate of the sailors and what could have happened in the Barents Sea. And for several days, the TV screens heard statements from representatives of the press service of the Russian Navy that "the situation is under control", "the sailors are knocking on the boat, giving signals to the rescuers." Then - newsthat shocked everyone: no one was saved, there are no survivors.

One of those who were at that time in the zone of the "rescue" operation was the correspondent Arkady Mamontov. It was he who went on the air every day with reports, which told about how the events unfolded.

After this news, many Russians considered themselves deceived. Deceived, because already at the time of filming these reports, the military themselves understood that there was no hope. The truth was not told. They didn’t want to, didn’t give the opportunity, or ... still, there was at least some hope.

From the report of August 12, 2000: "The submarine went to the bottom due to unnamed problems."

Then, the news host called the press service of the Navy "the press service of the IMF."

Arkady Mamontov, who visited the Murmansk region with a film crew, and specifically Vidyaevo 2000 years later, tells about the events of August 20, about how he reported from the Kursk disaster site.

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  1. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 11 November 2020 19: 28
    +6
    Yeah ... 20 years have passed ... but so far there is no more information about the truth than Putin said 20 years ago when asked what happened:



    Eternal memory to the dead !!! soldier
    1. deniso
      deniso 11 November 2020 19: 45
      -7
      Quote: Crown without virus
      Yeah ... 20 years have passed ... but so far there is no more information about the truth than Putin said 20 years ago when asked what happened:



      Eternal memory to the dead !!! soldier



      THIS IS THE TRUTH TO YOU!
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 11 November 2020 20: 27
        +3
        Quote: denis obuckov
        THIS IS THE TRUTH TO YOU!

        Is it true with Pivovarov? This is not funny, he was caught on outright lies more than once.
        1. deniso
          deniso 11 November 2020 21: 26
          -1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: denis obuckov
          THIS IS THE TRUTH TO YOU!

          Is it true with Pivovarov? This is not funny, he was caught on outright lies more than once.


          Well, let's listen to your version?
          It is not necessary to voice only old stuff, and it will be repeated ...
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 11 November 2020 22: 28
            0
            Quote: denis obuckov
            Well, let's listen to your version?

            Let's go to you all the same.
            Quote: denis obuckov
            It is not necessary to voice only old stuff, and it will be repeated ...

            I was not going to voice anything, I just said that Pivovarov is a liar, repeatedly caught in lies, and for this reason he does not inspire confidence in me.
            1. deniso
              deniso 11 November 2020 22: 53
              -1
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: denis obuckov
              Well, let's listen to your version?

              Let's go to you all the same.
              Quote: denis obuckov
              It is not necessary to voice only old stuff, and it will be repeated ...

              I was not going to voice anything, I just said that Pivovarov is a liar, repeatedly caught in lies, and for this reason he does not inspire confidence in me.


              And how many times the president was caught in a lie is not aware, with the same pension reforms that the retirement age will not be raised ... huh?
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 11 November 2020 23: 02
                +3
                Quote: denis obuckov
                And how many times the president was caught in a lie is not aware, with the same pension reforms that the retirement age will not be raised ... huh?

                And where did you get the idea that I trust the president with his camarilla? For me, these are enemies of Russia, worse than any Americans with Turks. There are many versions of the Kursk nuclear submarine, all unpleasant, but I cannot choose something for myself, due to my incompetence and lack of information. About Pivovarov here, for example, his lies:
                So that he knows how to lie and distort masterfully.
                1. deniso
                  deniso 11 November 2020 23: 12
                  -1
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Quote: denis obuckov
                  And how many times the president was caught in a lie is not aware, with the same pension reforms that the retirement age will not be raised ... huh?

                  And where did you get the idea that I trust the president with his camarilla? For me, these are enemies of Russia, worse than any Americans with Turks. There are many versions of the Kursk nuclear submarine, all unpleasant, but I cannot choose something for myself, due to my incompetence and lack of information. About Pivovarov here, for example, his lies:
                  So that he knows how to lie and distort masterfully.


                  About lies it is understandable .... I mean the very version voiced in this film, if you watched about a torpedo that was filled with dirty air, can this version be true or not?
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 11 November 2020 23: 31
                    +2
                    Quote: denis obuckov
                    About lies it is understandable .... I mean the very version voiced in this film, if you watched about a torpedo that was filled with dirty air, can this version be true or not?

                    Maybe, of course. I served as a warrant officer at about that time, then anything could be. I don't know how it is now.
            2. Stas157
              Stas157 11 November 2020 22: 57
              0
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Pivovarov is a liar, repeatedly caught in lies

              Just one example? Really interesting. Because I consider Alexey Pivovarov the most professional journalist in Russia.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 11 November 2020 23: 05
                +5
                hi
                Quote: Stas157
                Just one example? Really interesting. Because I consider Alexey Pivovarov the most professional journalist in Russia.

                An old one that I quickly found. Higher.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 11 November 2020 20: 20
      +5
      I still remember that inappropriate grin!
      The ban is not a hunt, otherwise I would have spoken emotionally!
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 11 November 2020 20: 47
        +2
        what did the GKZh and Rokosovsky IDR marshals think and did not say about 8.5 million dead?
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 11 November 2020 20: 50
        +5
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I still remember that inappropriate grin!

        and then there were explosions of houses.
      3. g1v2
        g1v2 11 November 2020 22: 08
        -3
        And then for the first time I began to respect him. Prior to that, he was perceived as a Yeltsin follower. They also deliberately tried to humiliate him and together with him the country. Lead to the conversation that Russia can no longer maintain its armed forces, and most importantly - nuclear weapons. That you need to cut weapons and bring observers to Russian facilities. This was constantly written in the foreign press. And they asked so sincerely - an old investigative technique. "Well, come on boy, open your soul." But the KGB taught the same approaches. And he answered briefly and clearly, cutting off all snot and cheap psychological approaches, showing that he understood everything - what he was taken to. In general, then I started to respect him for the first time.
        Well, as for Kursk, in my opinion, everything is simple - it was sunk by the cruiser Peter the Great by accident during a training exercise. Most likely Kursk began to surface because of an emergency torpedo and came under attack. Everything else is lyric.
        For the lost - eternal memory.
        1. Rudkovsky
          Rudkovsky 12 November 2020 04: 43
          -2
          But it turned out that all his "tricks" are to be a shameless liar, who does not know the words of honor and responsibility, who talks about what he needs at the moment. And then he happily forgets what was said.
  2. Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 11 November 2020 19: 31
    +9
    Keep quiet ...
    1. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 11 November 2020 20: 55
      +3
      Who is minus - burn in Hell !!! am
      1. Alexander Kopychev
        Alexander Kopychev 11 November 2020 21: 33
        +3
        Why memory and grief interfere with your life, minusers? Than these The boys hurt you goats? Learn to respect death.
  3. deniso
    deniso 11 November 2020 19: 43
    +1
    Somehow it is not very clear about the priority of real salvation, if no one was saved, we will never know the secrets, for some reason they were doomed from the very beginning.
  4. sabakina
    sabakina 11 November 2020 19: 52
    +2
    Anchor me at ..... 20 years have passed, but I remember it as if it was yesterday .... Time, what are you doing with us? ...
  5. Radikal
    Radikal 11 November 2020 19: 56
    +2
    Why crush water in a mortar? The director of the CIA - at that time J. Tenet, after the incident, urgently landed in Moscow, "brought" money to solve the problem, practically all the issues of the families of the victims were resolved - apartments in convenient regions, the study of children in any universities, etc. The only condition was - to be silent, not to give any interviews. Everything. sad
    Eternal memory to the guys! soldier
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 11 November 2020 19: 59
      +3
      Quote: Radikal
      The only condition was - to be silent, not to give any interviews. Everything.

      I am also convinced of this version .. Clinton was especially cynical and revealing in reassuring Putin .. after the tragedy ..
    2. Tsoy
      Tsoy 11 November 2020 20: 29
      +2
      problems, almost all issues of the families of the victims were resolved - apartments in convenient regions, the study of children in any universities, etc. The only condition was - to be silent, not to give any interviews.


      Watch the Norwegian film about Kursk. Full of interviews and meetings with NATO rescuers and relatives. And what could they tell? Only their own assumptions, since the relatives were admitted to the case materials after a couple of years.

      And the payments are not to say that they are gigantic.

      The state provided the families of 118 dead submariners with apartments and compensation: 720 thousand rubles plus military insurance (from 40 to 70 thousand, depending on the military rank). In addition, numerous public organizations and foundations transfer money to relatives: Vidyaevsky, Nakhimovsky ...
    3. mat-vey
      mat-vey 12 November 2020 07: 08
      +1
      Quote: Radikal
      The only condition was - to be silent, not to give any interviews

      My son and I studied with my youngest (not in the same group - he was older, we met in the student club) with the son of one of the victims - they took a non-disclosure subscription from everyone they could ... He then left for Murmansk again - all mine he called for a submarine to serve on a contract.
  6. Radikal
    Radikal 11 November 2020 20: 32
    0
    Quote: Choi
    problems, almost all issues of the families of the victims were resolved - apartments in convenient regions, the study of children in any universities, etc. The only condition was - to be silent, not to give any interviews.


    Watch the Norwegian film about Kursk. Full of interviews and meetings with NATO rescuers and relatives. And what could they tell? Only their own assumptions, since the relatives were admitted to the case materials after a couple of years.

    And the payments are not to say that they are gigantic.

    The state provided the families of 118 dead submariners with apartments and compensation: 720 thousand rubles plus military insurance (from 40 to 70 thousand, depending on the military rank). In addition, numerous public organizations and foundations transfer money to relatives: Vidyaevsky, Nakhimovsky ...

    See for yourself! Tell the Marines about the state, from the security of the US Embassy. In Moscow. sad
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 11 November 2020 22: 54
      +1
      See for yourself! Tell the Marines about the state, from the security of the US Embassy. In Moscow.


      And what have they got to do with it? You are claiming that the CIA director personally brought a suitcase of money to shut someone up. Only he brought little even because the relatives were unhappy with the amounts.
  7. Doctor
    Doctor 11 November 2020 20: 54
    +3
    A month before the tragedy, he was traveling in a compartment with the senior midshipman from the boat. He's in Kursk, pick up the replenishment, I'll go on.
    He was very proud of his service on the nuclear submarine, he said that the crew was excellent, the commander was super.
    Sorry guys. love
  8. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 11 November 2020 21: 07
    +5
    A very unfortunate affair.
    "Kursk" was cut on "Nerpa" (I hope this is no longer a military secret)
    I had the honor to work there then.
    Himself, personally did not cut, but passed by (as they say).
    It's hard to look at this. Especially knowing about the whole story.
    There, there was also an epic with the unloading of missiles ... Everything was not so simple ...
    I guess I better keep quiet further ...
    1. deniso
      deniso 11 November 2020 22: 27
      -8
      Otherwise, God forbid, they will shoot the storyteller laughing
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 12 November 2020 19: 36
        +1
        Yes. Uncle Denis.
        I see, you signed some papers on non-disclosure.
        For some reason, I am not eager to check how valid they are today. love
  9. Radikal
    Radikal 11 November 2020 23: 10
    +1
    Quote: Choi
    See for yourself! Tell the Marines about the state, from the security of the US Embassy. In Moscow.


    And what have they got to do with it? You are claiming that the CIA director personally brought a suitcase of money to shut someone up. Only he brought little even because the relatives were unhappy with the amounts.

    And the fact that they were dissatisfied was not for me, but for the one who said - she drowned. sad
  10. nikvic46
    nikvic46 12 November 2020 08: 06
    0
    I think all people are hurt by the memory of this tragedy. 20 years have passed. It's time to show what we've learned. The best memory of submariners is the prevention of such a tragedy. The whole country watched with pain the operation to rescue the sailors. We must show the whole country what we have done so that the best sons remain intact. This will be the best memory.
  11. Konnick
    Konnick 12 November 2020 09: 28
    +1
    And I remember the program "One Day in the Life ..." by Kirill Nabutov. In one of the issues, in May 2000, three months before the tragedy, the hero of the program was the commander of the Northern Fleet Popov. I well remember that program, the admiral's populist flirtation, "you see, I can do without a personal driver", etc. I was shocked by another fact, namely Popov's visit to the flagship of the Northern Fleet, the missile cruiser Peter the Great. After the caperang's report, Popov indulgently blurted out - Well ... let's go check the latrines ...
    Has the fleet commander arrived on the flagship and went to check the latrines? I understand that there was a shooting, but it made a powerful impression on me. The latrines were checked ...