Russia will create a logistics center for the Russian Navy in Sudan

Russia has decided to create another point of material and technical support for the Naval fleet... The second MTO point of the Navy will be created in Sudan. The corresponding decree has already been signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin.

The head of government approved a draft agreement between Russia and Sudan on the creation of a logistics center for the Russian Navy on the territory of Sudan and instructed to submit a proposal to sign the agreement to the President.

Logistics point - a military formation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with military and special equipment, life support facilities for the parking and repair of military ships of the Russian Federation with the necessary supplies of materiel and other property, deployed in the territory of the Republic of Sudan

- said in the decision.

According to the project, the number of the Russian contingent in the new MTO point will not exceed 300 people, and the number of ships simultaneously located at the point should not exceed four.

The draft of a new MTO item was developed by the Ministry of Defense, agreed with the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Supreme Court, the Prosecutor General and the Investigative Committee. Also, the plan has been preliminarily worked out with the Sudanese side.

Note that the possibility of creating a Russian naval base in Sudan was discussed back in 2017 by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Omar al-Bashir, who held a similar post in Sudan. In 2018, it became known that this issue was being discussed, but we are talking about creating an MTO point, and not a full-fledged naval base.

Today, Russia has only one overseas logistics center in Tartus, Syria.

Comments

[Kapkan]

I'm so damn glad!

[Machito]

The Navy needs a base in the Red Sea.

[Terrible_L.]

we are talking about the creation of an MTO point, and not a full-fledged naval base

Although not a base, but an MTO point, it's also good.
Cheers, comrades!

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Scary_L.

Although not a base, but an MTO point, it's also good.

And how does the PMTO differ from the base?

[Doccor18]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Scary_L.

Although not a base, but an MTO point, it's also good.

And how does the PMTO differ from the base?

The naval base provides for the long-term basing of a large number of ships. PMTO implies a short-term basing of a limited number (usually 2-5 pennants) to replenish supplies of food, water and ammunition, and urgent repairs. The base is a monumental, expensive pleasure. PMTO is a jump airfield ..

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Thanks for clarifying.

[Diverter]

and you can also consider this as the beginning of closer cooperation. those. after some time, the item can grow into a base

[svp67]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

And how does the PMTO differ from the base?

Status

[Borik]

And also you need to return to Vietnam, create a base in the Indian Ocean. In South America on the Pacific coast and the Caribbean.

[Terrible_L.]

Hush, hush, do not disclose all the plans of the General Staff!

[Turanov]

Quote: Borik

And also you need to return to Vietnam, create a base in the Indian Ocean. In South America on the Pacific coast and the Caribbean.

I think it will all be, but with the build-up of the Russian Navy! And this base in Sudan is the first bell that Russia is entering the world ocean as a great maritime power (we are far from the USSR, but ..)
Now the liberda will scream about retirees, etc. Well, for the revival of the Russian Navy and Civil Fleet !!!!

[bayard]

Quote: Borik

And also you need to return to Vietnam, create a base in the Indian Ocean. In South America on the Pacific coast and the Caribbean.

Will the treasury pull this beauty?
For such an extensive naval base system, a Fleet is needed!
Big Fleet.
Oceanic.
We do not have this, and if it suddenly happens, it will not happen very soon and in a completely different reality. And in another - a much larger, rich and powerful state.
The fleet is money.
Much money .
And industry.
And science.
And competent, and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE management for its activities.
And not by hand
When thievish hands with the hands of drivers will cut to the very shoulders!
Vietnam also today provides us with Cam Ranh for temporary deployment, replenishment of supplies and as a jump airfield for long-range and anti-submarine aviation.
Venezuela, Nicaragua are also ready to receive our ships and provide space for bases.
There is Iran in the Indian Sea, which even today from time to time asks our ships to stay / defile at their shores - for greater moral stability and ensuring the safety of navigation.
Cuba, too, probably would not mind our base \ bases ...
But to deploy so many bases, you need an appropriate Fleet. And military transport aircraft for emergency supplies.
In the best (best) case, this is ahead for us.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: bayard

And competent, and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE management for its activities.
And not by hand
When thievish hands with the hands of drivers will cut to the very shoulders!

First, Putin again (that's had it!) Is to blame. Second ... I agree with you here ... For some reason, our people, having come to budget money, forget about the country, steal, like those bitten by a mad bee .. Trouble ...

[bayard]

Quote: 30 vis

The first is Putin again (that's a had!) Is to blame

Every accident, failure and failure has its own name, surname and position. If the perpetrators are not removed, they are not brought to justice, and the "honestly stolen" is not confiscated ...
Who ?
Who is responsible for everything?
Personalizes everything?
Does everything set goals?
Is there such a person in the Russian Federation?
Or is there only one who is capable of accepting laudatory odes?
Criticism can be objective, objective, constructive and ... sweeping. So I never do the latter.
It's just 2020.
A year of summing up the results of many, very many plans, promises and intentions.
And a lot became clear.
And it's obvious.
And the fact that the person you named, as it turned out, does not affect anything, does not control anything and does not decide anything ... it became completely obvious.
Alas.
I myself am very disappointed by this. For under the "bad boyars" there was still hope for the "good tsar", who was a secret sovereign and had a "cunning plan."
Alas.
This turned out to be completely different.
And this is already obvious to all thinking.

Quote: 30 vis

For some reason, our people, having come to budget money, forget about the country, steal, as if bitten by a mad bee .. Trouble ...

So the question arises - are these our people?
Are ours exactly?
If everything is harmful?
If all words, all means and efforts go to the whistle?
Is it sabotage?
Is it not direct sabotage?
And is it not the connivance on the part of the responsible persons / persons, this revelry of embezzlement and empty promises?
Much can be forgiven and understood ...
Betrayal - NEVER.
And you can dissuade people in this ONLY by real deeds and CORRECTION of the admitted disgrace.
Are the "gentlemen" capable of THIS?
The experience of a century ago showed that NO.
But the experience of Russian history shows that it COULD BE ANOTHER.
Until recently, many thinkers had hope for a "revolution from the top" ... many propagandists and dreamers sang about its possibility ... lullied with "cunning plans" and fairy tales about "siloviki-sovereigns" ... And the "tsar" turned out to be ordinary "sorcerer's doll".
The worst thing in a war is betrayal.

[CSKA]

Quote: bayard

Oceanic.
We don't have this

That is, SSBNs, nuclear submarines, Cruisers, BODs, Frigates are not the ocean fleet?

Quote: bayard

and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE

And what about us?

[bayard]

Quote: CSKA

That is, SSBNs, nuclear submarines, Cruisers, BODs, Frigates are not the ocean fleet?

And how many of them do we have for three \ four (with the Indian) oceans? Are we really capable of ensuring the presence of our Navy in the oceans? And with what forces (the number of pennants).
"Nakhimov" will come out of modernization, several new frigates and modernized BOD, then we can wave the flag. And if "Kuznetsov" is repaired, then in general we will defeat everyone.

Quote: CSKA

bayard
and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE

And what about us?

Irresponsible as I described.
Who was responsible for the failures?
Action taken?
Siluanov returned 4,5 trillion?
Sat down?
And it would be necessary to count ...

[CSKA]

Quote: bayard

And how many of them do we have for three \ four (with the Indian) oceans?

Firstly, they are, and this already means that the ocean. Secondly, do you have some kind of statistics, how much should be in order to be considered ocean?

Quote: bayard

Are we really able to ensure the presence of our Navy in the oceans?

We're already there if you haven't noticed. Perhaps only in Indian we rarely visit.

Quote: bayard

"Nakhimov" will come out of modernization, several new frigates and modernized BOD, then we can wave the flag.

Explain to me what it is all about? What does the flag mean? What is it for? What would people like you then be able to say that we have an ocean-going fleet? It's just nonsense. We have it already oceanic. The ships are being built. Few countries can even create SSBNs, nuclear submarines, frigates, corvettes.

Quote: bayard

Irresponsible as I described.

You have not described anything. What is the irresponsibility?

Quote: bayard

Who was responsible for the failures?

Failures in what?

Quote: bayard

Siluanov returned 4,5 trillion?

Did he take them somewhere?

[Vladimir Vladimirovich S]

I agree, but "Pleasure" is not a cheap one ...

[Petrik66]

There will not be enough ships.

[fa2998]

Maybe I'm behind the times, but everything has calmed down in Sudan, or are we landing next to the "volcano"?

[Nastia makarova]

Damn, what good news today, could you leave it for tomorrow too?

[Turanov]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Damn, what good news today, could you leave it for tomorrow too?

Anastasia, do not worry while we are in Russia in the West and other libert scolds with all sorts of bad words, such news will be constantly! Trust the old man ..

[tlauicol]

great news. red sea

[faterdom]

Russian with Sudanese - brothers forever!
Pushkin is our everything!
Here is such a montre for all good neighbors and porno.

[Proton]

The news is very good. Confusingly, the political situation in Sudan is, to put it mildly, not very stable.

[Terrible_L.]

eh, where is it stable now? ..

[Doccor18]

Russian sailors are returning to Sudan again.
PMTO needed!
If only there was something to provide material services ...

[Lexus]

If only there was something to provide material services ...

Alexander ,
in fact, this is precisely the "little such" snag.

[Doccor18]

Ha, very tiny.
Good evening.

[Serg65]

Quote: lexus

If only there was something to provide material services ...

Alexander ,
in fact, this is precisely the "little such" snag.

Abromovich's yacht, what else is going to serve there? !!!

[lis-ik]

Quote: Doccor18

If only there was something to provide material services ...

That's right, they took it off the tongue.

[fa2998]

Quote: Doccor18

If only there was something to provide material services there.

Yes, the "coastal" fleet in which they have succeeded will not get there, and there are fewer and fewer ocean-going ships. The "old men" have been repairing for years, the simplest destroyer has not been launched for 30 years.

[Laksamana besar]

The Suez Canal is "our"! .
Mishustin has a fruitful day today, he also signed a decree on the closure of trade missions in Ukraine and Lithuania.

[soul]

Expanding our presence - very good

[venik]

The new MTO item is very good! The fleet is slowly returning to far-field operations!
I just didn't understand one thing: "....The draft of a new MTO point was developed by the Ministry of Defense, agreed with the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, The Supreme Court, the Prosecutor General and the Investigative Committee.... ... "- And THESE has to do with it (especially the Investigative Committee ?

[The popuas]

Getting ready! The money will also go there for construction. If so on the east as outrageous.

[Interlocutor]

Getting ready! The money will also go there for construction. If so on the east as outrageous.

A closer look at the ash bucket. It will be more convenient to pour on the head.

[The popuas]

And why should I ... I'm not surprised at anything

[venik]

Quote: Popuas

Getting ready! The money will also go there for construction. If so on the east as outrageous.

========
Here I am - I also thought about it!

[A. Privalov]

Cunning, however!
First, they set up a shoe rental shop for washing in the Red Sea on the shore, and now it turns out to be an MTO point.

[frog]

This is a safari organization point. Because it did not grow together with the Seychelles, but from the former Echthiopia, they either expelled or piled themselves ...

[cat Rusich]

There was a PMTO on about. Nokra from 1978 to February 6, 1991 - when the USSR was "alive" they "left" - they said that they were afraid of being drawn into the "conflict in Ethiopia" ... Then, with the "withdrawal" of Eritrea from Ethiopia, Ethiopia has no outlet to the sea.

[frog]

Thank you for Dahlak I am aware of. As well as in the course of how he looked and what was there. And why did they leave .... It was not so hot with safars. Although a hotel was built on a neighboring island .... After us. And what is left of us both there and on Socotra ...

[faiver]

The MTO item is good, but the country is not very ... well, God forbid, everything will be fine ...

[Interlocutor]

Oops and the Red Sea under easy control. Again the pirates have a problem

[tralflot1832]

Chet VO slows down a little. Putin VV announced that at the final stage there is a new command and control center for strategic forces. Moreover, it is highly protected. The START 3 partners must have had such news. The day is not over yet. Maybe there will be more good news.

[CommanderDIVA]

It would be nice to create such low-cost, unlike a full-fledged nmb, mto points of our fleet in Mozambique, and on the Horn of Africa in Somalia, to control the southwestern and western parts of the Indian Ocean, there are many trade routes, I wonder what a mto point in Sudan can one of our nuclear-powered ships, "Peter the Great"

[askort154]

According to the project, the number of the Russian contingent in the new MTO point will not exceed 300 people, and the number of ships simultaneously located at the point should not exceed four

Hooray, no need to shout, BUT! MTO in Sudan is not "control" of the entrance to the Red Sea-Suet Canal, as some have already declared. The "neck" of the Red Sea (Suez Canal) is Djibouti. And there are already bases there - the USA and China. Moreover, this is the only vase in China outside its borders. East African countries stupidly trade in them, who pays more. We have an MTO in Sudan, their authorities have been offering since 2017, referring to the fact that they do not want to let the Americans in. Ours spent a long time "pondering", there are many things for and against, but nevertheless they decided - for. The "neck" does not work, but we are obliged to be present in the "shipping artery" region, in company with the United States and China. Let them know that we are "near"! Although we will soon launch the "Sevmorput" - the "killer" of the Suet Canal.

[alexmach]

Indeed, China's "point" is noticeably trump card :)

[faterdom]

Why not control? MTO, even if there is not a single ship in it, should it have some material reserves?
Should!
Should they be guarded?
It should!
From what? From everything!
As from banal theft, damage or fire hazard, and from destruction by "partners", if they take offense at us. And this can be object air defense, electronic warfare, you can store "Ball" or "Bastion" there again ...
Will this make everyone uncomfortable?
Yes, that's good!

[vadim vadimov]

Well, we go to Central Africa through Sudan. Sudan borders on the CAR. P
Simply put, Sudan is the shortest route to the mineral-rich countries of central Africa. In the same place, Sudan provides its bases and airfields for Russia for logistics needs.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: askort154

[B]

Hooray, no need to shout, BUT! MTO in Sudan is not "control" of the entrance to the Red Sea-Suet Canal, as some have already declared. The "neck" of the Red Sea (Suez Canal) is Djibouti.

What do you need to "control"? - to put several containers with "Caliber-K" and a radar for target designation ... and to Suez will be completed and to Djibouti.

Caliber-K and X-35.
"Caliber" - up to 2600 km, X-35 - up to 280 km and cover the air defense, so that they would not just be bombed. I put the containers, but we can say that "spare parts" ...

[APASUS]

As I understand it, there will be another revolution in Sudan now? How dare you place a Russian base without asking the hegemon

[Old26]

Quote: faterdom

Why not control? MTO, even if there is not a single ship in it, should it have some material reserves?
Should!
Should they be guarded?
It should!
From what? From everything!
As from banal theft, damage or fire hazard, and from destruction by "partners", if they take offense at us. And this can be object air defense, electronic warfare, you can store "Ball" or "Bastion" there again ...
Will this make everyone uncomfortable?
Yes, that's good!

And for everything about all the staff of 300 people. Trim the sturgeon. Air defense - unlikely to be, anti-ship missiles - the same is unlikely. There will be some workshops, a floating berth, and a floating workshop may be based. And a very limited amount of fuel, that's all. And you have already rolled out the gubens, anti-ship complexes, electronic warfare, air defense, plus the workshops themselves and fuel supplies

[stas Sv]

Apparently it will be Port Sudan, tk. there is an airfield, although the platform has only 4 parking spaces.

[Serg65]

Quote: Stas Sv

Apparently it will be Port Sudan

Yes, and nowhere else! Suakin will be too small.

[22 dmdc]

On the Eritrean island of Nokra in the Red Sea in the Dahlak archipelago, which translates from Arabic as the "Gate of Hell", diving athletes stumble upon the ruins of a Soviet naval base. Officially, it was called the 933rd point of material and technical support (PMTO) of the USSR Navy. It began to be created in 1978 in accordance with the Soviet-Ethiopian intergovernmental agreement (then the Dahlak archipelago belonged to Ethiopia). Initially, the base was intended for the maintenance, repair and cleaning of the hulls of Soviet nuclear submarines, which were in combat service in the Indian Ocean. For this, the floating dock PD-66 with a lifting force of 8500 tons was transferred to Nokra from the Far East, floating workshops and floating bases came. A separate mobile engineering battalion of the Black Sea Fleet built berths and erected the necessary coastal structures. Since the region turned out to be turbulent, the naval command allocated replaceable marines with armored vehicles and self-propelled anti-aircraft guns "Shilka" to guard the PMTO. From the sea, the base was guarded by small anti-submarine ships, minesweepers, artillery and torpedo boats that came to Nokra on a rotational basis.
The 933rd PMTO as a whole successfully coped with the functions assigned to it

[Krev]

Quote: bayard

The worst thing in a war is betrayal.

To shoot alarmists and traitors on the spot.

[EVDmitri]

Helpful step! The Russian fleet should show the flag everywhere!

[January]

I am only wondering, why is Sudan so unselfish? Why should he?