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Russia will create a logistics center for the Russian Navy in Sudan

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Russia will create a logistics center for the Russian Navy in Sudan

Russia has decided to create another point of material and technical support for the Naval fleet... The second MTO point of the Navy will be created in Sudan. The corresponding decree has already been signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin.


The head of government approved a draft agreement between Russia and Sudan on the creation of a logistics center for the Russian Navy on the territory of Sudan and instructed to submit a proposal to sign the agreement to the President.

Logistics point - a military formation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with military and special equipment, life support facilities for the parking and repair of military ships of the Russian Federation with the necessary supplies of materiel and other property, deployed in the territory of the Republic of Sudan

- said in the decision.

According to the project, the number of the Russian contingent in the new MTO point will not exceed 300 people, and the number of ships simultaneously located at the point should not exceed four.

The draft of a new MTO item was developed by the Ministry of Defense, agreed with the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Supreme Court, the Prosecutor General and the Investigative Committee. Also, the plan has been preliminarily worked out with the Sudanese side.

Note that the possibility of creating a Russian naval base in Sudan was discussed back in 2017 by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Omar al-Bashir, who held a similar post in Sudan. In 2018, it became known that this issue was being discussed, but we are talking about creating an MTO point, and not a full-fledged naval base.

Today, Russia has only one overseas logistics center in Tartus, Syria.
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  1. Kapkan
    Kapkan 11 November 2020 16: 13
    23
    I'm so damn glad!
    1. Machito
      Machito 11 November 2020 16: 17
      23
      The Navy needs a base in the Red Sea.
      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 11 November 2020 16: 22
        15
        we are talking about the creation of an MTO point, and not a full-fledged naval base

        Although not a base, but an MTO point, it's also good.
        Cheers, comrades! good
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 11 November 2020 16: 38
          +2
          Quote: Scary_L.
          Although not a base, but an MTO point, it's also good.

          And how does the PMTO differ from the base?
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 11 November 2020 16: 54
            28
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            Quote: Scary_L.
            Although not a base, but an MTO point, it's also good.

            And how does the PMTO differ from the base?

            The naval base provides for the long-term basing of a large number of ships. PMTO implies a short-term basing of a limited number (usually 2-5 pennants) to replenish supplies of food, water and ammunition, and urgent repairs. The base is a monumental, expensive pleasure. PMTO is a jump airfield ..
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 11 November 2020 16: 55
              +5
              Thanks for clarifying.
            2. Diverter
              Diverter 11 November 2020 20: 23
              +1
              and you can also consider this as the beginning of closer cooperation. those. after some time, the item can grow into a base
          2. svp67
            svp67 11 November 2020 17: 15
            +9
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            And how does the PMTO differ from the base?

            Status
        2. Borik
          Borik 11 November 2020 16: 43
          +5
          And also you need to return to Vietnam, create a base in the Indian Ocean. In South America on the Pacific coast and the Caribbean.
          1. Terrible_L.
            Terrible_L. 11 November 2020 17: 33
            10
            Hush, hush, do not disclose all the plans of the General Staff! laughing
          2. Turanov
            Turanov 11 November 2020 17: 33
            +3
            Quote: Borik
            And also you need to return to Vietnam, create a base in the Indian Ocean. In South America on the Pacific coast and the Caribbean.

            I think it will all be, but with the build-up of the Russian Navy! And this base in Sudan is the first bell that Russia is entering the world ocean as a great maritime power (we are far from the USSR, but ..)
            Now the liberda will scream about retirees, etc. Well, for the revival of the Russian Navy and Civil Fleet !!!! drinks hi
          3. bayard
            bayard 11 November 2020 17: 42
            10
            Quote: Borik
            And also you need to return to Vietnam, create a base in the Indian Ocean. In South America on the Pacific coast and the Caribbean.

            Will the treasury pull this beauty?
            For such an extensive naval base system, a Fleet is needed!
            Big Fleet.
            Oceanic.
            We do not have this, and if it suddenly happens, it will not happen very soon and in a completely different reality. And in another - a much larger, rich and powerful state.
            The fleet is money.
            Much money .
            And industry.
            And science.
            And competent, and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE management for its activities.
            And not by hand
            When thievish hands with the hands of drivers will cut to the very shoulders!
            Vietnam also today provides us with Cam Ranh for temporary deployment, replenishment of supplies and as a jump airfield for long-range and anti-submarine aviation.
            Venezuela, Nicaragua are also ready to receive our ships and provide space for bases.
            There is Iran in the Indian Sea, which even today from time to time asks our ships to stay / defile at their shores - for greater moral stability and ensuring the safety of navigation.
            Cuba, too, probably would not mind our base \ bases ...
            But to deploy so many bases, you need an appropriate Fleet. And military transport aircraft for emergency supplies.
            In the best (best) case, this is ahead for us.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 12 November 2020 07: 35
              -1
              Quote: bayard
              And competent, and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE management for its activities.
              And not by hand
              When thievish hands with the hands of drivers will cut to the very shoulders!

              First, Putin again (that's had it!) Is to blame. Second ... I agree with you here ... For some reason, our people, having come to budget money, forget about the country, steal, like those bitten by a mad bee .. Trouble ...
              1. bayard
                bayard 12 November 2020 08: 14
                +3
                Quote: 30 vis
                The first is Putin again (that's a had!) Is to blame

                Every accident, failure and failure has its own name, surname and position. If the perpetrators are not removed, they are not brought to justice, and the "honestly stolen" is not confiscated ...
                Who ?
                Who is responsible for everything?
                Personalizes everything?
                Does everything set goals?
                Is there such a person in the Russian Federation?
                Or is there only one who is capable of accepting laudatory odes?
                Criticism can be objective, objective, constructive and ... sweeping. So I never do the latter.
                It's just 2020.
                A year of summing up the results of many, very many plans, promises and intentions.
                And a lot became clear.
                And it's obvious.
                And the fact that the person you named, as it turned out, does not affect anything, does not control anything and does not decide anything ... it became completely obvious.
                Alas. request
                I myself am very disappointed by this. For under the "bad boyars" there was still hope for the "good tsar", who was a secret sovereign and had a "cunning plan."
                Alas.
                This turned out to be completely different.
                And this is already obvious to all thinking.
                Quote: 30 vis
                For some reason, our people, having come to budget money, forget about the country, steal, as if bitten by a mad bee .. Trouble ...

                So the question arises - are these our people?
                Are ours exactly?
                If everything is harmful?
                If all words, all means and efforts go to the whistle?
                Is it sabotage?
                Is it not direct sabotage?
                And is it not the connivance on the part of the responsible persons / persons, this revelry of embezzlement and empty promises?
                Much can be forgiven and understood ...
                Betrayal - NEVER.
                And you can dissuade people in this ONLY by real deeds and CORRECTION of the admitted disgrace.
                Are the "gentlemen" capable of THIS?
                The experience of a century ago showed that NO.
                But the experience of Russian history shows that it COULD BE ANOTHER.
                Until recently, many thinkers had hope for a "revolution from the top" ... many propagandists and dreamers sang about its possibility ... lullied with "cunning plans" and fairy tales about "siloviki-sovereigns" ... And the "tsar" turned out to be ordinary "sorcerer's doll". what
                The worst thing in a war is betrayal.
            2. CSKA
              CSKA 12 November 2020 13: 30
              -5
              Quote: bayard
              Oceanic.
              We don't have this

              That is, SSBNs, nuclear submarines, Cruisers, BODs, Frigates are not the ocean fleet?
              Quote: bayard
              and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE

              And what about us?
              1. bayard
                bayard 12 November 2020 23: 25
                +3
                Quote: CSKA

                That is, SSBNs, nuclear submarines, Cruisers, BODs, Frigates are not the ocean fleet?

                And how many of them do we have for three \ four (with the Indian) oceans? Are we really capable of ensuring the presence of our Navy in the oceans? And with what forces (the number of pennants).
                "Nakhimov" will come out of modernization, several new frigates and modernized BOD, then we can wave the flag. And if "Kuznetsov" is repaired, then in general we will defeat everyone.
                Quote: CSKA
                bayard
                and most importantly - RESPONSIBLE

                And what about us?

                Irresponsible as I described.
                Who was responsible for the failures?
                Action taken?
                Siluanov returned 4,5 trillion?
                Sat down?
                And it would be necessary to count ...
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 13 November 2020 15: 38
                  -3
                  Quote: bayard
                  And how many of them do we have for three \ four (with the Indian) oceans?

                  Firstly, they are, and this already means that the ocean. Secondly, do you have some kind of statistics, how much should be in order to be considered ocean?
                  Quote: bayard
                  Are we really able to ensure the presence of our Navy in the oceans?

                  We're already there if you haven't noticed. Perhaps only in Indian we rarely visit.
                  Quote: bayard
                  "Nakhimov" will come out of modernization, several new frigates and modernized BOD, then we can wave the flag.

                  Explain to me what it is all about? What does the flag mean? What is it for? What would people like you then be able to say that we have an ocean-going fleet? It's just nonsense. We have it already oceanic. The ships are being built. Few countries can even create SSBNs, nuclear submarines, frigates, corvettes.
                  Quote: bayard
                  Irresponsible as I described.

                  You have not described anything. What is the irresponsibility?
                  Quote: bayard
                  Who was responsible for the failures?

                  Failures in what?
                  Quote: bayard
                  Siluanov returned 4,5 trillion?

                  Did he take them somewhere?
          4. Vladimir Vladimirovich S
            Vladimir Vladimirovich S 11 November 2020 19: 39
            +2
            I agree, but "Pleasure" is not a cheap one ...
          5. Petrik66
            Petrik66 13 November 2020 13: 43
            0
            There will not be enough ships.
      2. fa2998
        fa2998 11 November 2020 17: 51
        +2
        Maybe I'm behind the times, but everything has calmed down in Sudan, or are we landing next to the "volcano"? hi
  2. Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 11 November 2020 16: 14
    +1
    Damn, what good news today, could you leave it for tomorrow too?
    1. Turanov
      Turanov 11 November 2020 17: 36
      +2
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      Damn, what good news today, could you leave it for tomorrow too?

      Anastasia, do not worry while we are in Russia in the West and other libert scolds with all sorts of bad words, such news will be constantly! Trust the old man .. hi love
  3. tlauicol
    tlauicol 11 November 2020 16: 15
    +1
    great news. red sea
  4. faterdom
    faterdom 11 November 2020 16: 21
    -9
    Russian with Sudanese - brothers forever!
    Pushkin is our everything!
    Here is such a montre for all good neighbors and porno.
  5. Proton
    Proton 11 November 2020 16: 22
    +9
    The news is very good. Confusingly, the political situation in Sudan is, to put it mildly, not very stable.
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 11 November 2020 16: 23
      +3
      eh, where is it stable now? ..
  6. Doccor18
    Doccor18 11 November 2020 16: 24
    10
    Russian sailors are returning to Sudan again.
    PMTO needed!
    If only there was something to provide material services ...
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 11 November 2020 16: 34
      0
      If only there was something to provide material services ...

      Alexander hi ,
      in fact, this is precisely the "little such" snag. winked
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 11 November 2020 16: 40
        +4
        hi Ha, very tiny.
        Good evening.
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 12 November 2020 08: 07
        -4
        Quote: lexus
        If only there was something to provide material services ...

        Alexander hi ,
        in fact, this is precisely the "little such" snag. winked

        laughing Abromovich's yacht, what else is going to serve there? !!!
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 11 November 2020 17: 26
      0
      Quote: Doccor18
      If only there was something to provide material services ...

      That's right, they took it off the tongue.
    3. fa2998
      fa2998 11 November 2020 17: 56
      +4
      Quote: Doccor18
      If only there was something to provide material services there.

      Yes, the "coastal" fleet in which they have succeeded will not get there, and there are fewer and fewer ocean-going ships. The "old men" have been repairing for years, the simplest destroyer has not been launched for 30 years. request
  7. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 11 November 2020 16: 28
    +5
    The Suez Canal is "our"! smile .
    Mishustin has a fruitful day today, he also signed a decree on the closure of trade missions in Ukraine and Lithuania.
  8. alma
    alma 11 November 2020 16: 33
    17
    Expanding our presence - very good good
  9. venik
    venik 11 November 2020 16: 37
    11
    The new MTO item is very good! The fleet is slowly returning to far-field operations! good
    I just didn't understand one thing: "....The draft of a new MTO point was developed by the Ministry of Defense, agreed with the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, The Supreme Court, the Prosecutor General and the Investigative Committee.... ... "- And THESE has to do with it (especially the Investigative Committee belay ? what request
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 11 November 2020 16: 46
      +8
      Getting ready! The money will also go there for construction. If so on the east as outrageous.
      1. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 11 November 2020 16: 53
        -5
        Getting ready! The money will also go there for construction. If so on the east as outrageous.


        A closer look at the ash bucket. It will be more convenient to pour on the head.
        1. The popuas
          The popuas 11 November 2020 17: 16
          +4
          And why should I ... I'm not surprised at anything wink
      2. venik
        venik 11 November 2020 17: 03
        +5
        Quote: Popuas
        Getting ready! The money will also go there for construction. If so on the east as outrageous.

        ========
        Here I am - I also thought about it! drinks
  10. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 11 November 2020 16: 46
    +4
    Cunning, however!
    First, they set up a shoe rental shop for washing in the Red Sea on the shore, and now it turns out to be an MTO point. lol
    1. frog
      frog 11 November 2020 16: 56
      0
      This is a safari organization point. Because it did not grow together with the Seychelles, but from the former Echthiopia, they either expelled or piled themselves ...
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 12 November 2020 00: 25
        +2
        There was a PMTO on about. Nokra from 1978 to February 6, 1991 - when the USSR was "alive" they "left" - they said that they were afraid of being drawn into the "conflict in Ethiopia" ... Then, with the "withdrawal" of Eritrea from Ethiopia, Ethiopia has no outlet to the sea.
        1. frog
          frog 13 November 2020 08: 42
          0
          Thank you for Dahlak I am aware of. As well as in the course of how he looked and what was there. And why did they leave .... It was not so hot with safars. Although a hotel was built on a neighboring island .... After us. And what is left of us both there and on Socotra ...
  11. faiver
    faiver 11 November 2020 16: 51
    +3
    The MTO item is good, but the country is not very ... well, God forbid, everything will be fine ...
  12. Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 11 November 2020 16: 52
    -4
    Oops and the Red Sea under easy control. Again the pirates have a problem
  13. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 November 2020 16: 56
    0
    Chet VO slows down a little. Putin VV announced that at the final stage there is a new command and control center for strategic forces. Moreover, it is highly protected. The START 3 partners must have had such news. The day is not over yet. Maybe there will be more good news.
  14. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 11 November 2020 17: 15
    -2
    It would be nice to create such low-cost, unlike a full-fledged nmb, mto points of our fleet in Mozambique, and on the Horn of Africa in Somalia, to control the southwestern and western parts of the Indian Ocean, there are many trade routes, I wonder what a mto point in Sudan can one of our nuclear-powered ships, "Peter the Great"
  15. askort154
    askort154 11 November 2020 17: 34
    +3
    According to the project, the number of the Russian contingent in the new MTO point will not exceed 300 people, and the number of ships simultaneously located at the point should not exceed four

    Hooray, no need to shout, BUT! MTO in Sudan is not "control" of the entrance to the Red Sea-Suet Canal, as some have already declared. The "neck" of the Red Sea (Suez Canal) is Djibouti. And there are already bases there - the USA and China. Moreover, this is the only vase in China outside its borders. East African countries stupidly trade in them, who pays more. We have an MTO in Sudan, their authorities have been offering since 2017, referring to the fact that they do not want to let the Americans in. Ours spent a long time "pondering", there are many things for and against, but nevertheless they decided - for. The "neck" does not work, but we are obliged to be present in the "shipping artery" region, in company with the United States and China. Let them know that we are "near"! Although we will soon launch the "Sevmorput" - the "killer" of the Suet Canal.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 11 November 2020 18: 17
      0
      Indeed, China's "point" is noticeably trump card :)
    2. faterdom
      faterdom 11 November 2020 18: 30
      0
      Why not control? MTO, even if there is not a single ship in it, should it have some material reserves?
      Should!
      Should they be guarded?
      It should!
      From what? From everything!
      As from banal theft, damage or fire hazard, and from destruction by "partners", if they take offense at us. And this can be object air defense, electronic warfare, you can store "Ball" or "Bastion" there again ...
      Will this make everyone uncomfortable?
      Yes, that's good!
    3. vadim vadimov
      vadim vadimov 11 November 2020 22: 44
      0
      Well, we go to Central Africa through Sudan. Sudan borders on the CAR. P
      Simply put, Sudan is the shortest route to the mineral-rich countries of central Africa. In the same place, Sudan provides its bases and airfields for Russia for logistics needs.
    4. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 12 November 2020 00: 36
      -1
      Quote: askort154
      [B]

      Hooray, no need to shout, BUT! MTO in Sudan is not "control" of the entrance to the Red Sea-Suet Canal, as some have already declared. The "neck" of the Red Sea (Suez Canal) is Djibouti.
      What do you need to "control"? - to put several containers with "Caliber-K" and a radar for target designation ... and to Suez will be completed and to Djibouti.
      caliber-k and x-35
      Caliber-K and X-35.
      "Caliber" - up to 2600 km, X-35 - up to 280 km and cover the air defense, so that they would not just be bombed. I put the containers, but we can say that "spare parts" ...
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 11 November 2020 19: 50
    +1
    As I understand it, there will be another revolution in Sudan now? How dare you place a Russian base without asking the hegemon
  17. Old26
    Old26 11 November 2020 23: 26
    +3
    Quote: faterdom
    Why not control? MTO, even if there is not a single ship in it, should it have some material reserves?
    Should!
    Should they be guarded?
    It should!
    From what? From everything!
    As from banal theft, damage or fire hazard, and from destruction by "partners", if they take offense at us. And this can be object air defense, electronic warfare, you can store "Ball" or "Bastion" there again ...
    Will this make everyone uncomfortable?
    Yes, that's good!

    And for everything about all the staff of 300 people. Trim the sturgeon. Air defense - unlikely to be, anti-ship missiles - the same is unlikely. There will be some workshops, a floating berth, and a floating workshop may be based. And a very limited amount of fuel, that's all. And you have already rolled out the gubens, anti-ship complexes, electronic warfare, air defense, plus the workshops themselves and fuel supplies
  18. Stas Sv
    Stas Sv 12 November 2020 03: 41
    0
    Apparently it will be Port Sudan, tk. there is an airfield, although the platform has only 4 parking spaces.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 12 November 2020 08: 13
      +2
      Quote: Stas Sv
      Apparently it will be Port Sudan

      Yes, and nowhere else! Suakin will be too small.
  19. 22 dmdc
    22 dmdc 12 November 2020 09: 43
    0
    On the Eritrean island of Nokra in the Red Sea in the Dahlak archipelago, which translates from Arabic as the "Gate of Hell", diving athletes stumble upon the ruins of a Soviet naval base. Officially, it was called the 933rd point of material and technical support (PMTO) of the USSR Navy. It began to be created in 1978 in accordance with the Soviet-Ethiopian intergovernmental agreement (then the Dahlak archipelago belonged to Ethiopia). Initially, the base was intended for the maintenance, repair and cleaning of the hulls of Soviet nuclear submarines, which were in combat service in the Indian Ocean. For this, the floating dock PD-66 with a lifting force of 8500 tons was transferred to Nokra from the Far East, floating workshops and floating bases came. A separate mobile engineering battalion of the Black Sea Fleet built berths and erected the necessary coastal structures. Since the region turned out to be turbulent, the naval command allocated replaceable marines with armored vehicles and self-propelled anti-aircraft guns "Shilka" to guard the PMTO. From the sea, the base was guarded by small anti-submarine ships, minesweepers, artillery and torpedo boats that came to Nokra on a rotational basis.
    The 933rd PMTO as a whole successfully coped with the functions assigned to it
  20. Krev
    Krev 12 November 2020 14: 00
    0
    Quote: bayard
    The worst thing in a war is betrayal.

    To shoot alarmists and traitors on the spot.
  21. EVDmitri
    EVDmitri 12 November 2020 17: 56
    0
    Helpful step! The Russian fleet should show the flag everywhere!
  22. January
    January 16 November 2020 22: 51
    0
    I am only wondering, why is Sudan so unselfish? Why should he?