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Kiev offered to forcibly intern Russians from Donbass in case of war

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Kiev offered to forcibly intern Russians from Donbass in case of war

Kiev offered to forcibly resettle Russians and "unreliable" from the territory of Donbass in the event of a military conflict. The corresponding bill was developed by the government of Ukraine and has already been submitted to the Verkhovna Rada.


According to the bill, the SBU will be in charge of identifying those who threaten Ukraine's national security. The security forces will report on such persons to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to resolve the issue of internment.

The transfer of prisoners of war, as well as civilians to the areas that they will be determined by the regional authorities in agreement with Kiev, will be dealt with by the General Staff and executive authorities within their competence. They will be assisted by local authorities, law enforcement agencies and the Ukrainian railway, which is supposed to provide the transportation of internees.

Regional authorities must ensure that civilian displaced persons are kept "in accordance with the norms of international humanitarian law." Guarded rear camps will be created for prisoners of war.

Money for the maintenance of internees should be allocated by the budget, it is proposed to spend $ 2,8 thousand per internee per year. These funds should be used to purchase things, provide food, medical treatment, and provide housing and cultural services.

For prisoners of war, categories will be introduced depending on their rank and pay. For the rank and file - up to $ 93 per year, for the high command - up to $ 873.

Internment, according to the bill, can be carried out only when absolutely necessary, it can be appealed in the manner prescribed by law, and its validity period ends immediately after the end of hostilities and the adoption of a presidential decree on the abolition of martial law or in the absence of reasons that served as the basis for internment.

In addition, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine should organize external relations with states and international organizations regarding the maintenance and return of prisoners of war and internees during the conflict in Donbass.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 11 November 2020 14: 38
    14
    And this kind of lawmaking and planning is funded.
    "This is not a trifle for your pockets."
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 11 November 2020 14: 42
      24
      World democracies are sliding towards fascism ... and under Biden the trend will accelerate ..
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 11 November 2020 14: 59
        -3
        hi
        Quote: Svarog
        World democracies are sliding towards fascism ..

        Fascism is the most effective way of combating "leftist ideas" that are gaining popularity all over the world.
        Quote: Svarog
        .and under Biden the trend will accelerate ..

        It is not known whether Biden is more of a globalist than a "right-wing conservative".
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 11 November 2020 16: 29
          10
          Quote: Svarog
          World democracies are sliding towards fascism ... and under Biden the trend will accelerate ..

          Kiev has been planning for a long time ago for prisoners of war and internees from the South-East of Ukraine.
          About 3 years ago, information was already leaking out that concentration camps for defenders and citizens of the LDNR had already been built and were still only empty behind the fence.
          Interestingly, is there a crematorium in these camps? It seems that it is not small.

          Interestingly, the Jew Zelensky will give the command to physically genocide the Russians, or will he be thrown off the post of President of Ukraine?
          1. bayard
            bayard 12 November 2020 06: 45
            +2
            Thrown off, the decision has already been made.
            They are waiting for the inauguration, or, at worst, the recognition of Biden's victory ... but everything is so complicated there ... But with Trump's second term, all plans can go to pieces - England alone will not pull such a thing.
          2. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 12 November 2020 11: 35
            +2
            Quote: Tatiana
            Interestingly, the Jew Zelensky will give the command to physically genocide the Russians, or will he be thrown off the post of President of Ukraine?

            The clown will play out, as if he himself was not identified in those places with the "comrades", to run the process.
        2. Vladimir B.
          Vladimir B. 11 November 2020 22: 09
          18
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          It is not known whether Biden is more of a globalist than a "right-wing conservative".

          It doesn't matter who Biden is, neocon or neoliberal. It is important that the United States has always been a country of militarism and imperialism closely cooperating with openly Nazi structures and rulers.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 11 November 2020 14: 59
        11
        So I immediately remembered Barbarossa's plan ...
        Guarded rear camps will be created for prisoners of war.
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 11 November 2020 15: 29
          +7
          Quote: Doccor18
          So I immediately remembered Barbarossa's plan ...

          И "humanitarian program" OST plan ...
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 11 November 2020 16: 07
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        World democracies are sliding towards fascism ... and under Biden the trend will accelerate ..

        Biden I think the presidential chair will not see his ears. This Slippy Joe will fly like plywood over the White House, because too much, I would say, on an industrial scale, decided to do grub in the elections. People between the ages of 100-120 voted for him ... came straight to the polls and voted. All 146% of US voters voted for him. fellow
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 11 November 2020 16: 09
          11
          People between the ages of 100-120 voted for him ... came straight to the polls and voted. All 146% of US voters voted for him. fellow

          Everything is so .. but lately the winner is the one who lies more .. and all over the world I note this trend .. I think that Biden will be the next president ... hi
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 11 November 2020 16: 16
            +5
            Quote: Svarog
            I think Biden will be the next president ...

            If the gap between the candidates were large, then I would agree with you ... but ... the gap is minimal, even taking into account Biden's fraud. More than 70 million voters voted for Trump. And at the same time, those who are behind Trump are unlikely turn away from him, because he asked all ... al. And 70 million voters, excuse me, this is not a little, taking into account the fact that 60% of the total population votes. So Biden will see the ears of a dead donkey, not the president's chair. In any case, a political crisis of power emerged in the United States, which began under Clinton.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 11 November 2020 16: 17
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              So Biden will see the ears of a dead donkey, not the president's chair. In any case, a political crisis of power emerged in the United States, which began under Clinton.

              I honestly don't care who they have there .. but we'll find out soon laughing hi
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 11 November 2020 16: 19
                +6
                Quote: Svarog
                I honestly don't care who they have there .. but we'll find out soon

                But in vain ... because, unfortunately, while the main geopolitics in the world is run by the United States.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 11 November 2020 16: 19
                  +7
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: Svarog
                  I honestly don't care who they have there .. but we'll find out soon

                  But in vain ... because, unfortunately, while the main geopolitics in the world is run by the United States.

                  This is a fact, as well as the fact that with regard to Russia, the policy will remain the same ..
            2. Tank hard
              Tank hard 11 November 2020 18: 35
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              In any case, a political crisis of power emerged in the United States, which began under Clinton.

              They say that the biggest blunder in the United States occurred due to the fact that the Democrats began to sabotage the presidential decrees on the ground, after Trump came to power. And this destruction of the foundations of government in the United States has never been seen before. Gin is easier to release from the bottle than to drive back. request
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 12 November 2020 11: 37
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          All 146% of US voters voted for him.

          Why are you offending the old man?
          There was a place where 203% of voters voted for him.
      4. svp67
        svp67 11 November 2020 17: 08
        -4
        Quote: Svarog
        World democracies are sliding towards fascism.

        ?????????????What is it like? But what about the fact that the United States interned citizens of Japanese nationality, and in the USSR, they did the same with citizens of German nationality. Among other things, we have Germans, the nation that suffered the most from repression, 99,4% of the total number of Germans at the beginning of the war.
        The main thing is to understand what they want. If this measure is applied in cases of the official start of the war, then this is one thing, and if the decision is left to the mercy of local authorities, and the OFFICIAL start of the war is not established as a specific condition, then this is different
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 11 November 2020 19: 10
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          in the USSR, they did the same with citizens of German nationality. Among other things, we have Germans, the nation that suffered the most from repression, 99,4% of the total number of Germans at the beginning of the war.

          Yeah, and the Japs were advancing 1000 km from Washington at that moment?
          Or were the Germans driven to concentration camps? Yes, the conditions of deportation were harsh, but no worse than the blockade of Leningrad. I had a friend at the school, a real German - by passport and appearance - Kremer. Yes, my grandfather said that, in order not to freeze, they buried themselves in coal, but they were by no means driven to concentration camps. And my grandfather had no special complaints about the Soviet regime. Yes, he emigrated to the FRG when it became possible, but his son (the father of my friend) remained in the RF.
        2. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 12 November 2020 01: 44
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          ?????????????What is it like? But what about the fact that the United States interned citizens of Japanese nationality, and in the USSR, they did the same with citizens of German nationality. Among other things, we have Germans, the nation that suffered the most from repression, 99,4% of the total number of Germans at the beginning of the war.

          US citizens, ethnic Japanese forcibly moved to special camps on the principle of Indian reservations. However, US citizens of Japanese origin fought in the ranks of the USMC in the Pacific Ocean, participated in the landing in Europe.
          In the USSR, the Volga Germans were resettled to the East (Western Siberia, Eastern Kazakhstan), but they did not live in camps as they imagine. They settled in the houses of the same collective farmers, Siberians and Germans helped each other. Not only Germans worked in the labor armies ...
          In the Great Patriotic War, many ethnic Germans fought for their homeland (USSR) on an equal basis with other peoples of the Union:
          Ernst Genrikhovich Schacht (1904-1942) Hero of the Soviet Union (December 31, 1936), Major General of Aviation (1940).
          Klein Robert Aleksandrovich (1913 - 1990) Hero of the Soviet Union from 1944, scout of a partisan detachment, captain.
          Ventsov Vladimir Kirillovich (Wenzel Voldemar Karlovich), 1924 - 1943, Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously), platoon commander of the 2nd machine-gun company of the 1185th rifle regiment (356th rifle division, 61st army).
          Geptner Erik Georgievich (1907 - 1944), flight commander of the 1st Aviation Squadron of the 1st Guards Mine Torpedo Aviation Regiment of the 8th Mine Torpedo Aviation Division of the Baltic Fleet, Guard Senior Lieutenant. Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously).
          Shmenkel Fritz Paul 1916 - 1944. Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously), fighter of the partisan detachment "Death to Fascism" of the Kalinin region of the RSFSR, the castle of the sabotage and reconnaissance group "Pole", which operated in the region of Northern Orsha of the Belorussian SSR.

          Quote: svp67
          The main thing is to understand what they want. If this measure is applied in cases of the official start of the war, then this is one thing, and if the decision is left to the mercy of local authorities, and the OFFICIAL start of the war is not established as a specific condition, then this is different

          What do they want? Fight...
          1. svp67
            svp67 12 November 2020 08: 45
            +1
            Quote: Lynx2000
            Fight...

            Don't you understand this yet? Yes!!! And they are not like the Americans, who spin their "puppets", and those "honestly work off the dollars" and have already "turned on" society in their country, that there are already a lot of people who want to fight with Russia. I understand perfectly well that their number will also sharply decrease as soon as our cruise missiles start flying over their heads, but so far this is so.
            1. Lynx2000
              Lynx2000 12 November 2020 09: 24
              +2
              The desire to fight increases with the distance from the line of forward trenches to the rear.
              Quote: svp67

              they have already "cheated" the society in their country, that there are already a lot of people willing to fight with Russia.

              A barking dog does not bite. Let them bark ...
              1. svp67
                svp67 12 November 2020 10: 14
                0
                Quote: Lynx2000
                A barking dog does not bite. Let them bark ...

                2008 somehow showed that it can "bite" ...
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 11 November 2020 14: 43
      14
      Are there any sane politicians in Ukraine? Reading such proposals, vague doubts are plagued!
      As if in the event of the War the "Non-Brothers" would not have to move the capital to Lviv, although it will be restless there too.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2020 15: 17
        +6
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Are there any sane politicians in Ukraine?

        The politicians in Ukraine remained. But there were no sane left.
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2020 15: 19
        +1
        Why are you surprised? These "politicians" are the choice of the people of Ukraine. You and I are not voting at the elections in Ukraine. And who votes? ...)
        1. sleeve
          sleeve 11 November 2020 16: 04
          +2
          Perfectly to the point. And it is also at least the result of the idea: "I'm tired of politics. Let them choose there themselves. Still nothing can be changed." Please, you will be rewarded for your deeds, ... and idleness.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2020 16: 10
            +1
            Right. The old rural principle, I'll hide my hut. ,,
    3. credo
      credo 11 November 2020 14: 49
      +5
      Quote: Livonetc
      And this kind of lawmaking and planning is funded.
      "This is not a trifle for your pockets."

      On the "right", according to the concepts of the Kiev junta, business, money is not a pity.
      They, following the example of the Turks, will declare that they are protecting Europe from the Russian threat and will demand money from the EU to finance the concentration camps for internment.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 11 November 2020 14: 58
        +5
        Guarded rear camps will be created for prisoners of war.
        Like Auschwitz, Majdanek, Dachau, Buchenwald .....
    4. Fedor Sokolov
      Fedor Sokolov 11 November 2020 15: 04
      +3
      Funded exclusively by the scum of the Galician!
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 11 November 2020 15: 07
        -1
        Often settled in Canada and the United States
    5. Terenin
      Terenin 11 November 2020 15: 16
      +6
      Well, who from Donbass will return to these followers of Nazism?
      But the reaction of the "brotherly" Ukrainian people to this document is silent.
      In general, perhaps, did you get lost in this demonic project "army, mova, faith"? fool
  2. Kamchatsky
    Kamchatsky 11 November 2020 14: 40
    +6
    Well, now let someone say that this is not fascism.
    1. Killemall
      Killemall 11 November 2020 14: 42
      +9
      Does anyone bother us at all?
    2. credo
      credo 11 November 2020 14: 46
      +8
      Quote: Kamchatka
      Well, now let someone say that this is not fascism.

      The first to say about this, that this is not fascism, will be the USA and the EU, and I do not exclude the UN.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 11 November 2020 14: 53
        +1
        So under the standards of the fascists and Nazis walked all of Europe in the first half of the last century
        and the states with sixes refuse to condemn the glorification of Nazi accomplices
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2020 15: 13
        +1
        Quote: credo
        The first to say about this that this is not fascism will be the USA and the EU

        Yes, they already know that this is the infectious ward of a psychiatric hospital. They know it, but they don't speak out loud.
    3. VORON538
      VORON538 11 November 2020 14: 50
      +2
      So this is fascism am
      So the concentration camps are preparing to build
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2020 15: 14
        0
        Quote: VORON538
        So the concentration camps are preparing to build

        Have they already completed the "Wall of Senya Yatsenyuk"?
        1. VORON538
          VORON538 11 November 2020 16: 09
          0
          And how do I know? It is necessary to ask the local guardians of the Square about the type of maktub and our supposedly kommi. My opinion, if they had built it, they would have yelled all over the world about peremog. Therefore, again, zrada and money was stolen. wink
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 52
            +1
            Quote: VORON538
            they screamed all over the world about peremog. Therefore, again zrada and money were stolen.

            Well, I mean, the wall was not completed, the money was stolen, now a new, more expensive project, concentration camps, will not be built either, but the money will be stolen.
    4. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 13 November 2020 03: 09
      0
      Quote: Kamchatka
      that this is not fascism.

      Two idiots, judging by the cons!
  3. iouris
    iouris 11 November 2020 14: 42
    +2
    Ukraine is a country that gives birth to a soldier for the Waffen-SS. That's all you need to know about her.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2020 15: 09
      +2
      Quote: iouris
      Ukraine is a country that gives birth to soldiers for the Waffen-SS.

      Live and learn. And all the time I thought that only dill is born there.
      1. iouris
        iouris 11 November 2020 19: 27
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        there only dill is born.

        Dill may be born, but the owners are not interested in dill.
  4. 210ox
    210ox 11 November 2020 14: 46
    +8
    Isn't it time to block the possibility of working in Russia for those without Russian citizenship?
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 11 November 2020 14: 51
      +2
      It's time
      And there is strength and will
      But the willpower for such a decision is not
    2. Kamchatsky
      Kamchatsky 11 November 2020 15: 48
      +2
      By the zomboyaschika I just saw that Putin gave the order to close trade missions in Ukraine and Lithuania.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 11 November 2020 17: 57
        +2
        This news has been circulating for the second month. Maybe their hands (or brains) have reached the point that it is impossible to support the mossy Russophobes in any way.
  5. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 11 November 2020 14: 47
    +3
    What prisoners of war ?! fool Who are they fighting with there?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 11 November 2020 15: 37
      +3
      Don't you know that they have Russia attacked the unfortunate suffering of lace panties ..
  6. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 11 November 2020 14: 50
    0
    The chubates dreamed straight won all laughingfor earlier
  7. Humpty
    Humpty 11 November 2020 14: 51
    +3
    Ukraine is planning a rather rare method of suicide - self-entrenching.
  8. Mamuka Petrovich
    Mamuka Petrovich 11 November 2020 14: 57
    +2
    Money for the maintenance of internees should be allocated by the budget, it is proposed to spend 2,8 thousand per internee per year

    Do the interns-theoreticians even believe it themselves? Of course, the paper will endure everything, but for these 6 years, apart from the violent paperwork, they did nothing from the word at all, but they already wrote the work plans for the police, border guards after the "de-occupation" of Donbass. Oh, and the prosecutor's office and the Crimean police (Ukrainian) already exist.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 18
      0
      Quote: Mamuka Petrovich
      Do the interns-theoreticians even believe it themselves?

      For them, faith is not the main thing, but whoever pushed the idea first will be given a state order, the department will be organized, and will have a penny. So from scratch and untwist.
  9. Rumblings
    Rumblings 11 November 2020 14: 57
    -12 qualifying.
    I hope that the Russian people in the depths are not so blinkered and backward that individuals write here in the forum.
    Are you generally Orthodox? Pour dirt on your brothers
    ... Let them be like that, but they must have a Conscience.
    Because of this, you are crying that no one likes and respects Russians, but who would respect if a simple Ukrainian was in place after your opuses? Do you think not?
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 11 November 2020 15: 12
      +3
      Admirers of Bandera, are they brothers to those whose fathers and grandfathers were destroyed by Bandera and other shelupon under the leadership of "liberators" from Europe united under the banner of the Reich? NO!
      1. Rumblings
        Rumblings 11 November 2020 15: 36
        -9
        You pour into the stream to the Sultan or whoever you have an enemy there, ahahah, they just laugh
    2. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 11 November 2020 15: 33
      +2
      Quote: Merkit
      Let them be

      He admitted that what was written in the comments is true, and right there:
      Quote: Merkit
      who would have respected in place of a simple Ukrainian after your opuses? Do you think not?
      1. Rumblings
        Rumblings 11 November 2020 15: 37
        -7
        Then let's sow bad confusion. And they are glad there, eh.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 21
      +3
      Quote: Merkit
      Are you generally Orthodox? Pour dirt on your brothers

      Interestingly, and since when did the Bandenists become brothers?
      1. Rumblings
        Rumblings 11 November 2020 16: 33
        -3
        They are certainly animals, to the people to produce everything, aren't you?
    4. hydroy
      hydroy 11 November 2020 17: 18
      -1
      We are generally a secular country, where Orthodoxy and Islam, Buddhism and a lot of everything! Let a simple Ukrainian say why he gave his homeland to the Americans for cookies! And what about he does not like it, as if all peoples are brothers, shchaz and there are spiteful critics to the Turks in Azerbaijan) and in the same Central Asia: read the forums, there is a problem with water and how they write to each other that they are better, others are worse)
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 November 2020 14: 59
    +1
    Let them build their own concentration camps, just in case of war Svidomo will be driven there.
    1. Rumblings
      Rumblings 11 November 2020 15: 16
      -7
      I forgot to write about Vlasov with his million-strong Russian army.
      Why, we do not notice the logs, but we are running to the speck of a small dog.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 11 November 2020 15: 37
        +3
        Did you count it yourself or did one woman say?
        1. Rumblings
          Rumblings 11 November 2020 15: 39
          -6
          Take the trouble to look at the classified numbers
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 11 November 2020 16: 13
            +2
            So they are CLASSIFIED laughing
            And they told you so at work
            Go learn Russian and then crawl out to Russian-language sites with your propaganda, foreigner
            And then you burn, your accent is not Slavic hi
            1. Rumblings
              Rumblings 11 November 2020 16: 16
              -7
              You? It's funny.
          2. Ros 56
            Ros 56 11 November 2020 16: 14
            +3
            laughing Duc, how can I see if they are classified? lol
          3. Rumblings
            Rumblings 11 November 2020 16: 15
            -4
            Answered above, mine did not give up.
          4. Skarpzd
            Skarpzd 12 November 2020 03: 33
            0
            your copper hedgehog ... they are classified!
          5. Ugochaves
            Ugochaves 12 November 2020 16: 38
            0
            Proofs to the studio!
        2. Rumblings
          Rumblings 11 November 2020 16: 15
          -6
          A million will suit, according to all numbers and data?
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 11 November 2020 16: 17
            +2
            Whose will you, millionaire?
            1. Rumblings
              Rumblings 11 November 2020 16: 18
              -6
              We keep the dogs in the Aviary, it's nourishing there, I'm waiting)
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 11 November 2020 16: 22
                +2
                Clearly, show-off pounding, do not roll bags. It seems to me sweet, you are one of the Banderlog provocateurs.
                1. Rumblings
                  Rumblings 11 November 2020 16: 28
                  -5
                  Ahahah, I have never been abroad.
                  As long as we are a fool, Russia is a state.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 22
          +1
          Quote: Ros 56
          Did you count it yourself or did one woman say?

          What are they drinking there, what is it?
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 11 November 2020 16: 27
            +1
            This mystery is great. fellow lol
          2. The comment was deleted.
      2. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 12 November 2020 03: 29
        0
        about a million army this is too much. but that's not even the point. not only Russians were in Rhoa. there is a pair of each creature. the question is simple WHERE AT THE OFFICIAL LEVEL we Vlasov and Rhoa are recognized as heroes? or have the streets been renamed? do not carry nonsense,
      3. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 12 November 2020 03: 33
        0
        According to all data, the number of Rhoa did not exceed 120-130 thousand. By 1945, about 50 thousand remained in general. The rest were either killed or (who were very lucky) taken prisoner.
  11. yfast
    yfast 11 November 2020 14: 59
    +3
    Up to $ 93 a year - yes, this is an immense generosity, apparently, divisions will surrender for such money.
  12. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 11 November 2020 15: 04
    +1
    For prisoners of war, categories will be introduced depending on their rank and pay. For the rank and file - up to $ 93 per year, for the high command - up to $ 873.
    As I understand the high command, these are generals. And this unreasonable creature is going to take Russian generals prisoner. Yeah! Communication with Mr. Biden had a negative effect on the Sumerian brains, although Wikipedia writes that schizophrenia is not an infectious disease.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 11 November 2020 16: 55
      +1
      They are not going to poison generals with shepherd dogs in concentration camps, but ordinary people who speak Russian .. That is, civilians living on the demarcation line, for example, and those who will be with them at the beginning of hostilities ... They have experience of serving in Sonderkommando ..
  13. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2020 15: 17
    0
    In this case, the citizens of the outskirts, interest from Russia with the issuance of directions to the nearest military enlistment offices of Ukraine.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 25
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

      -1
      In this case, the citizens of the outskirts, interest from Russia with the issuance of directions to the nearest military enlistment offices of Ukraine.

      You probably wanted to write "deport" instead of "interested".
  14. Reviews
    Reviews 11 November 2020 15: 19
    +2
    Quote: credo

    They, following the example of the Turks, will declare that they are protecting Europe from the Russian threat

    What do you mean "declare"? They already declare this, since the days of pedroshenko.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 30
      0
      Quote: Avis
      What do you mean "declare"? They already declare this, since the days of pedroshenko.

      So they write "Oyukraina sits in the trenches on the front line of defense, to the last Sumerian, in the struggle for European freedom and democracy."
  15. georggy
    georggy 11 November 2020 15: 21
    +1
    And where to iterate Banderlog?
    To Poland or Germany?
    1. Elephant
      Elephant 11 November 2020 15: 29
      0
      Banderlog - only for consumption! And immediately block all the borders so that they don't run away to Poland or Germany ...
    2. VORON538
      VORON538 11 November 2020 16: 15
      -1

      george (george)
      Today, 15: 21
      +1
      And where to iterate Banderlog?
      To Poland or Germany?

      to Bandera
      there is enough room in the boilers
    3. German Titov
      German Titov 11 November 2020 23: 23
      +1
      On a walking erotic journey. There are enough of their "moish". First, one "moisha" takes 40 years, then another. Look, they will turn into monkeys again. Further according to Darwin ...
  16. Red68
    Red68 11 November 2020 15: 25
    +2
    Quote: Merkit
    Are you generally Orthodox? Pour dirt on your brothers

    "We play here, we don't play here - there was fish here."
    You will decide, my friend, whether your brothers are Russians or not. Or is it on the day of the week, or the situation depends?
    1. Rumblings
      Rumblings 11 November 2020 15: 40
      -5
      Is it essentially weak?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 33
        +1
        Quote: Merkit
        Is it essentially weak?

        Essentially - "That Russia is pulling you by the tail!"
        1. Rumblings
          Rumblings 11 November 2020 16: 35
          -4
          Expected a substantial response.
          Regrettably or not, you and I were born as Russians understood.
          I know my Ancestors.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 58
            +1
            Quote: Merkit
            Regrettably or not, you and I were born as Russians understood.

            I am Russian by birth.
            1. Rumblings
              Rumblings 11 November 2020 17: 10
              -4
              So am I. Russian by metric. It's okay. But shit is a joy to enemies. I am personally disgusted.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 11 November 2020 23: 59
                +1
                Quote: Merkit
                So am I. Russian by metric. It's okay. But shit is a joy to enemies.

                And for me all Bandera's enemies, that's why I'm Russian.
  17. maktub
    maktub 11 November 2020 15: 30
    -4
    The author forgot to clarify that these are amendments to already existing laws, the action of which begins in a "special period"
    Don't you have such legislation? laughing
    Article to excite the jingoistic patriotic electorate
    1. bukhach
      bukhach 11 November 2020 17: 43
      +1
      Yes, stop fooling around, there is no need for any excitement, so there is nowhere to put a stamp on you, and, by the way, judging by the general shouting about aggression and war with Russia, the "special period" has already arrived, hands are only short to send around the camps. Although Europe is still felt , even denyuzhki will give humanists.
      1. maktub
        maktub 11 November 2020 18: 06
        -1
        You see, even a plus in the last paragraph of the post was found. So not everything is so sad
        And what about your legislation?
        Barrack, felling and gruel?
        1. bukhach
          bukhach 12 November 2020 05: 32
          0
          What are you, we are not Europe, and America is not with us, we will not find money for you, so Magadan, revolver, pit, we have no other way. sad
  18. Avior
    Avior 11 November 2020 15: 33
    -2
    ... for an hour of a special period, come and visit the territory of Ukraine of the protesters of the state, as I will threaten the aggression against Ukraine with an attack, as it will become a threat to the national security forces of Ukraine, because of such an aggressor against the provision of food to them is due to the internationalization of such individuals from the real and potential military threats to the national security of Ukraine. "
    2. Part of the first article 36 of the Law of Ukraine "On the misconception of self-production in Ukraine" (Vidomosty Verkhovnoyi For Ukraine, 1997 p., No. 24, p. 170) is supplemented with paragraph 9 of the following rule:
    "9) participation in the designated mission for the primus settlement of international individuals, organizing and making visits during a particular period, according to the norms of international humanitarian law."


    http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/zweb2/webproc34?id=&pf3511=70352&pf35401=537640

    http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/zweb2/webproc4_1?pf3511=70352

    I thought there was such a law for a long time. The internment of foreign citizens in the event of war is provided for by the Geneva Convention
    Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, also known as the Fourth Geneva Convention - adopted on August 12, 1949; entered into force on October 21, 1950 [1] .....

    In fact, the Convention is binding on all parties
    In 1993, the UN Security Council included the convention in the usual norms of international law [en], which made it binding not only for the signatory countries, but all other countries involved in military conflicts [3]

    It is not clear what is the point in a special law if it is stipulated by a convention binding on everyone
    There is nothing more to be done than drafting laws that duplicate an already binding convention.
    Part IV. Rules for the Treatment of Internees ...


    https://www.un.org/ru/documents/decl_conv/conventions/geneva_civilian_34.shtml
    Pointless occupation.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2020 16: 37
      +1
      Quote: Avior
      There is nothing more to be done than drafting laws that duplicate an already binding convention.

      The cunning lads promoted the creation of a law in the government, created a department, allocated money and resources for it. Things are going on, the office is writing.
    2. Shiden
      Shiden 12 November 2020 12: 36
      -1
      Sergei, why do you think the adoption of this law is senseless.
      1. Avior
        Avior 12 November 2020 14: 00
        0
        Because it duplicates the Geneva Convention, and without it has the character of a direct action law of the highest priority.
        To clarify the convention, a law is not needed, instructions are enough.
  19. zwlad
    zwlad 11 November 2020 15: 48
    +3
    Guarded rear camps will be created for prisoners of war.

    Once in history it was already. And as far as I remember, those people ended up badly.
    1. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd 12 November 2020 03: 45
      0
      badly. but not all come out. oh, not all.
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 12 November 2020 07: 17
        0
        I mean the organizers of these camps. They ended badly.
  20. Turanov
    Turanov 11 November 2020 16: 24
    0
    In Kiev, they offered to forcibly resettle Russians and "unreliable" from the territory of Donbass in the event of a military conflict.

    And after all this is all official and do not even hesitate ... Nazism rages on the outskirts of a stormy color
    Where are the "world human rights activists" and other liberda? Recently I watched the program, they found a burial place from the Great Patriotic War (according to preliminary data, about 40 thousand) and civilians and soldiers all together .. They were also unreliable ... A criminal case was opened, they will look for performers, etc.
  21. bukhach
    bukhach 11 November 2020 17: 33
    +1
    Quote: Merkit
    They are certainly animals, to the people to produce everything, aren't you?

    Your people for the most part support the current authorities, which, in turn, glorify the Bandera and other nationalist scum, and Ukraine started the hostility long before the current events, so our reaction is quite adequate in relation to a hostile state and its population. the other cheek, but the time of such virtue has passed, now, without receiving a rebuff, they will tear off your head with enthusiasm.
  22. orionvitt
    orionvitt 11 November 2020 17: 45
    +1
    They keep sowing the wind. These de ... ly, agree that in the future, they will intern Ukrainians from Ukraine. for not fig.
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 11 November 2020 20: 12
    +3
    By what criteria will the reliability of the citizens of Ukraine be determined, will they also be prescribed in the law, or will these rules be left at the mercy of the National Battalions and other punishers?
  24. Cottager452
    Cottager452 11 November 2020 21: 16
    0
    Will they give out vodka in these camps or will they have to drive it ourselves?
  25. uncle Vlad
    uncle Vlad 11 November 2020 21: 24
    -2
    I like $ 93 a year. This is how much they are going to keep the Buryats. I think in fact it will turn into 93 hryvnia. The old story is not to surrender, to fight to the last. So as not to die.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 12 November 2020 17: 40
      0
      93 dollars a year

      One trip to the store. Sometimes I leave more in the store.
  26. German Titov
    German Titov 11 November 2020 23: 17
    +2
    Good idea! Only the "scattered" appeared in the EBN's brain, which was sick with "aklogol". There are Russians here. Come and intern us. Then let your she-wolves not "howl - they drove the goddamn". As Alexander Nevsky used to say, “Who will come to us with a sword according to the“ tabla and receive. ”Who does not know, after the war, captured Germans rebuilt Donbass. Someone has a desire to follow the spiral of history? In Donbass, such historians can repeat .. ...
  27. akvanavt98
    akvanavt98 11 November 2020 23: 23
    +1
    and if someone does not want to leave, they will rape and kill? no matter how smart people go to America themselves
    .
  28. akvanavt98
    akvanavt98 11 November 2020 23: 43
    0
    Quote: German Titov
    Good idea! Only the "scattered" appeared in the EBN's brain, which was sick with "aklogol". There are Russians here. Come and intern us. Then let your she-wolves not "howl - they drove the goddamn". As Alexander Nevsky used to say, “Who will come to us with a sword according to the“ tabla and receive. ”Who does not know, after the war, captured Germans rebuilt Donbass. Someone has a desire to follow the spiral of history? In Donbass, such historians can repeat .. ...

    Yes sir! and Estonia was rebuilt in the same way, only with crooked hands and with sabotage. but they were building something. a killer for many years, and here with shovels.
  29. akvanavt98
    akvanavt98 11 November 2020 23: 47
    0
    Yes, and about the attitude of the Balts and neighbors to the brothers from the Square, the people came brazenly thieving. they are for a while and loose.
  30. spectr
    spectr 12 November 2020 00: 18
    0
    They are not very ready for forceful influences, while, from a legal point of view, they are preparing a groundwork for themselves. It seems like the "movement" is shown doing nothing, and then how it goes. If it will work out, they will seize the territory by force and refer to international law; if it will not work, they will revise the laws once again.

    Either there is another preparation for hostilities, or the groundwork for the possible coming of Poroshenko to power (or maybe both).
  31. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 12 November 2020 03: 16
    +1
    Quote: Merkit
    Ahahah, I have never been abroad.
    As long as we are a fool, Russia is a state.

    you can call and speak beautifully and they may even believe you, BUT exactly until you start LIEING. There are no fools here, and whoever is interested can find out about Vlasov's ROA and even about the number ... it's not a secret and not a secret ... So lie further)))) why is there a million ... lie a billion ... more epic lie
  32. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 12 November 2020 03: 17
    +1
    Quote: maktub
    You see, even a plus in the last paragraph of the post was found. So not everything is so sad
    And what about your legislation?
    Barrack, felling and gruel?

    oh what they write in the Peruvian press))))) https://inosmi.ru/military/20201111/248514943.html
  33. Zomanus
    Zomanus 12 November 2020 06: 48
    0
    America did this for the Japanese, and they take an example from them.
    Therefore, it is time to stop throwing snot on his fist and seriously prepare for the war in Donbas. I do not urge to fight, but if the Ukrainian army goes into the attack, it should not withdraw from the attack.
  34. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 12 November 2020 12: 44
    0
    From the point of view of the state, Ukraine is quite sound action. The question lies in the field of admissibility of the existence of this state.
  35. Growlers
    Growlers 12 November 2020 13: 55
    -1
    Everything is planned and provided, there is nothing left to win .......