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US is going to confront Russia in the Arctic with an old icebreaker

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US is going to confront Russia in the Arctic with an old icebreaker

The United States has decided to send its only icebreaker, Polar Star, to the Arctic. This decision was made against the background of "ever-increasing Russian activity" in the region. Business Insider reports.


According to the newspaper, the United States is sending its only remaining icebreaker to the Arctic to "protect the maritime sovereignty and security of countries in the region."

The need to "confront Russia" in the Arctic region is constantly being discussed in Washington. It turns out that they are going to confront Russia in the Arctic with an old icebreaker.

What tasks the icebreaker will perform is not reported. Business Insider sources say the icebreaker was sent "in pursuit of the Russians." At the same time, it is noted that the 44-year-old icebreaker is not in very good technical condition, it is possible that breakdowns or other problems may occur on it.

It is emphasized that the Polar Star is currently the only icebreaker available to the United States. The second US Coast Guard icebreaker Healy was forced to interrupt its planned deployment in the Arctic after a fire broke out on board in mid-August.

The publication notes that against the background of one US icebreaker, Russia has deployed about 50 of its icebreakers in the Arctic region to date.

Earlier it was reported that the United States intends to receive in the future six icebreakers - three large and three medium. This amount is the minimum necessary to defend US interests in the Arctic, according to the Coast Guard command. The first of them should be laid down in 2021 and commissioned in 2024.

A large icebreaker should be able to break ice 2 m thick at a speed of 3 knots, independently break ice up to 6 m thick, and have an autonomy of 80 days. Medium icebreaker - break ice at least 1,4 m thick at a speed of 3 knots and also have an autonomy of 80 days. Both icebreakers should be able to mount weapons.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 11 November 2020 10: 01
    +7
    Well, headline again laughing Well, they sent it and sent it, I hope it won't overwrite it in the ice!
    1. minus
      minus 11 November 2020 10: 05
      +5
      Better to overwrite it, and ours will pull out laughing
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 11 November 2020 10: 30
        +2
        The infographics are a little outdated, but the proportions are the same smile
        1. Looking for
          Looking for 11 November 2020 18: 41
          0
          "shapkozakidateli" damn it !!!
      2. Temples
        Temples 11 November 2020 10: 36
        -2
        I wonder if we have interests in northern waters above Alaska and Canada? winked

        Are there our expeditions there?

        I remember from school that our people have always studied the Arctic in our north.
        Even on the maps, a border was drawn along the sea to the very top of the earth.

        Now all and sundry go there.

        Maybe it's time for us to fumble in the northern seas of "partners"?
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 11 November 2020 10: 07
      +4
      The main thing is that grandfather is not drowned, and then again the screeching will be about "the intrigues of the Russians." laughing
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 11 November 2020 13: 47
        +2
        Quote: NDR-791
        The main thing is that grandfather is not drowned, and then again the screeching will be about "the intrigues of the Russians." laughing

        It won't sink right away, so we'll have time to send our icebreakers to help the amer. It would be very revealing.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 11 November 2020 14: 02
          +1
          Quote: Marconi41
          so that we will have time to send our icebreakers to help amer

          I, frankly speaking, would not have, until some kind of agreement was concluded for these events. When we have difficulties with floods and fires, no one is in a hurry to help. If their icebreaker gets stuck in the ice, I think we can limit ourselves to purely rescuing the crew by helicopters, in accordance with maritime rules. Under the SOLAS-74 Convention, "each Party to the Convention has undertaken to ensure that all necessary measures are taken to organize coastal surveillance and rescue people, in distress at sea near the shores of their side. "Nothing is said about the ships ...
          Quote: Marconi41
          It would be very revealing.

          Then, after all the labors of the righteous, they will spoil us, like with a ventilator. Don't show them anything. In addition to costs on our part, these shows do not give anything and do not improve relations. For them, as we were the main enemy in all doctrines, we will remain so. Do not indulge yourself with fruitless illusions.
    3. Sayan
      Sayan 11 November 2020 10: 08
      0
      On the contrary, I want this rusty tub to be covered with ice wassat
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 11 November 2020 10: 12
        +2
        Quote: Sayan
        On the contrary, I want this rusty tub to be covered with ice wassat

        Aha ... and then we have to pull it out? No. Let the grandfather "float" wink it Floats (well, you get the idea).
    4. Civil
      Civil 11 November 2020 10: 25
      0
      US is going to confront Russia in the Arctic with an old icebreaker


      Meaning? So all raw materials go to the West for paper.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 11 November 2020 11: 50
        -5
        US is going to confront Russia in the Arctic with an old icebreaker
        You can smile as much as you like, but they said they would build and they would build.
  2. the Saint
    the Saint 11 November 2020 10: 02
    -10 qualifying.
    US population growth is going to confront dying Russia
    1. prior
      prior 11 November 2020 10: 09
      +2
      In Russia, even the dead will rise up against America, it won't seem a little ...
      1. the Saint
        the Saint 11 November 2020 11: 15
        -6
        Quote: prior
        In Russia, even the dead will rise up against America, it won't seem a little ...

        That is, it is impossible to oppose the generally recognized fact (except for the production of a sick imagination and a senseless threat)?
        1. prior
          prior 11 November 2020 12: 20
          +2
          Yes, Russia, like eggs to a bad dancer, interferes with everything.
          And we appoint presidents in America, and our hackers won't let you live, and our gas won't let you breathe, and our neighbors are all in the zone of American interests. And everything is unsubstantiated.
          The very mention of Russia is across the throat of Americans.
          Well, you have more blacks, Latinos and others from all over the world, and so what ?!
          "confront dying Russia" they are going to !
          It will be necessary - we will grind everyone, and white, and black, and colored, and in any quantity!
          It's time to get used to sitting on the priest evenly and being silent in a rag.
          Negroes learned to kiss shoes, learn to lick Russian kirzachi too.
          1. the Saint
            the Saint 11 November 2020 13: 24
            -8
            Quote: prior
            Yes, Russia, like eggs to a bad dancer, interferes with everything.
            And we appoint presidents in America, and our hackers won't let you live, and our gas won't let you breathe, and our neighbors are all in the zone of American interests. And everything is unsubstantiated.
            The very mention of Russia is across the throat of Americans.
            Well, you have more blacks, Latinos and others from all over the world, and so what ?!
            they are going to "confront the dying out Russia"!
            It will be necessary - we will grind everyone, and white, and black, and colored, and in any quantity!
            It's time to get used to sitting on the priest evenly and being silent in a rag.
            Negroes learned to kiss shoes, learn to lick Russian kirzachi too.

            Fantomas raged (s)). Believe me, in America about the existence of Russia in their media is remembered a thousand times less often than here, where we wake up and go to bed with America in our heads.
            You try to get out of the habit of licking chuvyaki with Chechens and Dagestanis, or do it more quickly, otherwise millions of Uzbeks and Tajiks are also ready to provide you with their shoes.
      2. GRIGORIY76
        GRIGORIY76 11 November 2020 11: 26
        -5
        Quote: prior
        In Russia, even the dead will rise up against America, it won't seem a little ...

        What for? There will be dead people in paradise.
        1. the Saint
          the Saint 11 November 2020 13: 27
          -6
          How did the boss promise? And the "dead with scythes along the road" are canceled? wink
      3. eklmn
        eklmn 11 November 2020 22: 37
        -1
        "In Russia, even the dead will rise up against America ..."
        It is easy for the dead to get up, but for the remaining alive (the population is dying out!) To get up from their knees is problematic ... And where to get the strength to "get out of the trench"?
  3. Nychego
    Nychego 11 November 2020 10: 06
    +3
    The author will not bother himself with a reference to the material on BI, otherwise I read this site and have not seen anything about "opposing the Russians in the Arctic" icebreaker.
    Hope I missed it. hi
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 13 November 2020 16: 36
      16
      Quote: Nychego
      nothing about "opposing the Russians in the Arctic" icebreaker did not meet

      But now we have met wink
      Quote: Nychego
      Hope I missed

      Exactly, they missed it. You need to read carefully bully hi
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 November 2020 10: 09
    -1
    The United States has decided to send its only icebreaker, Polar Star, to the Arctic. This decision was made against the backdrop of "ever-increasing Russian activity" in the region.
    "Yeah!" K. Vorobyaninov. They will be sent there, and who will pull him back, and on what? wassat
  5. Rumblings
    Rumblings 11 November 2020 10: 09
    -5
    Straight DSLR, our "Kuzya" antediluvian their AUG immeasurably. Their "Polar Star" is our ancient mighty Icebreaker fleet.
  6. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 November 2020 10: 10
    +2
    Well, rather not to resist, but to indicate a presence in that region.
    Because I can hardly imagine the confrontation of icebreakers.
    They will come, get stuck in the ice and will indicate presence.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 11 November 2020 12: 27
      +3
      Quote: Zomanus
      They will come, get stuck in the ice and will indicate presence.

      in order to "get stuck in the ice, they are building something else - the ice-resistant self-propelled platform" North Pole ". Promises by 2022.
      https://topwar.ru/156690-na-admiraltejskih-verfjah-zalozhili-samodvizhuschujusja-platformu-dlja-arktiki.html
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 November 2020 10: 11
    +3
    The most important thing is that the AIS system is not turned off, so that it will be easier for us to look for it when it gets jammed in the ice in case of a breakdown. wassat
  8. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 11 November 2020 10: 16
    -1
    Earlier it was reported that the United States intends to receive in the future six icebreakers - three large and three medium. This amount is the minimum necessary to defend US interests in the Arctic, according to the Coast Guard command. The first of them should be laid down in 2021 and commissioned in 2024.

    what
    Now we are laughing at their old man of the icebreaker fleet, and the Americans are planning to build new ones for military purposes.
    When they interacted with the maritime border guards, they said that earlier, in the 60-70s, the Americans carried out provocations in the Soviet Arctic. We passed along the NSR, entered the Soviet terrorists. In the Vilkitsky Strait, our border ships drove them out. Then, by the 80s, the provocations stopped.
  9. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 11 November 2020 10: 21
    0
    The need to "confront Russia" in the Arctic region is constantly being discussed in Washington.
    Or give money for the confrontation, otherwise we will not resist the "insidious" Russian icebreakers. wassat
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 November 2020 10: 25
    0
    about sending its only icebreaker Polar Star to the Arctic
    The confrontation is expected to be interesting - one old American is against 50 Russian ones. Probably believe that the American flag will replace the shortage of 49. Still, confrontation and containment implies a balance of power, or better, an advantage.
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  11. loser
    loser 11 November 2020 10: 26
    -6
    Even directly and not funny, not sad, so again, just advertising. In reply:Donald Trump's statement that "the United States will develop and implement a program for the procurement of an icebreaker fleet to ensure polar security that will support our national interests in the Arctic and Antarctic" is clearly internal in nature and aims to score political points for the upcoming elections in the fall, said Korabel .ru "Chairman of the All-Russian Fleet Support Movement, Captain of the 1st Rank of the Reserve, Candidate of Political Sciences Mikhail Nenashev.
    Flag raised: Putin was shown the newest icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin- this is contrary to the clamor.
  12. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 11 November 2020 10: 27
    -1
    And then, as always happens, he will get stuck in the ice, and the Russian icebreaker will save the American laughing
  13. zwlad
    zwlad 11 November 2020 10: 33
    -1
    And if it gets stuck in the ice?
    How will they get him out?
    Will the RF be called again?
    1. the Saint
      the Saint 11 November 2020 11: 22
      -5
      Quote: zwlad
      And if it gets stuck in the ice?
      How will they get him out?
      Will the RF be called again?

      Have you ever called the Russian Federation for release? It is when? Around the same time when the USSR was saving America from Germany with its Lend-Lease?
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 11 November 2020 11: 50
        -1
        Well, "again" I wrote it in vain.
        Well, what did you want to say with the expression "Around the same time when the USSR was saving America from Germany with its Lend-Lease?"
        and?
        My grandfather, along with many of his compatriots, saved the whole WORLD, including America, from Nazi Germany.
        1. the Saint
          the Saint 11 November 2020 13: 39
          -6
          In addition to my grandfather who died at the front, I also have a father born in 1927. at the age of 17 he finished the war with military awards in Vienna as a sailor of an armored boat of the Danube Flotilla, but this does not change my firm belief that without the gigantic material assistance with participation in the war between the United States and Britain, the "kirdyk" of the USSR would have come 50 years earlier, although he still equally came.
          1. zwlad
            zwlad 11 November 2020 14: 08
            -1
            The most interesting thing is that "without gigantic material assistance" from the same countries of Germany, this war would never have happened.
            1. the Saint
              the Saint 11 November 2020 14: 42
              -4
              It is more interesting that according to the terms of the Versailles Peace, imposed on Germany by England, the USA, France after their victory in the First World War, the Germans would not have had any significant army or weapons at all.
              But Hitler was rescued by weapons, training of the Wehrmacht and strategic raw materials by the Stalinist USSR, who dreamed of unleashing a war of the imperialists in Europe, and then triumphantly walk through the ruins and get their hands on them.
              pictured brothers in arms at the beginning of World War II.
              1. zwlad
                zwlad 11 November 2020 15: 05
                +2
                That sho you say. It turns out that the USSR is to blame for WW2, not the Yankees and others like them, who financed Germany and rebuilt her industry.
                Oh well.
                And yes. Few cons. Let's get more.
                1. the Saint
                  the Saint 11 November 2020 15: 12
                  -8
                  All participants in the war are to blame, but to varying degrees. In the largest - Germany and the USSR, which is now generally recognized throughout the world, in which they put an equal sign between German Nazism and Soviet communism. All over the world, except for Russia and some fragments of the USSR, of course.
                  in the photo planning joint operations of the Wehrmacht and the Red Army
                  1. zwlad
                    zwlad 11 November 2020 15: 17
                    +3
                    The largest - Germany and the USSR, which is now generally recognized throughout the world

                    Well yes. The USSR conquered Europe with the tacit consent of the United States and Britain.
                    And then the valiant US army defeated everyone and won WW2.
                    Okay. I understood you. Continue to live in your alternate reality.
                    1. the Saint
                      the Saint 11 November 2020 15: 42
                      -8
                      Divided Europe in secret protocols to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Now this is not a secret, but the basics of history. Then the two divided Poland, and Stalin (according to the agreement with Hitler) cleaned up the Baltic States with Bessarabia, unsuccessfully tried to conquer Finland when Hitler was waging a war in Western Europe.
                      Is this something new or Mary Ivanna did not say that at school and, therefore, it did not happen?
                      1. Pattor
                        Pattor 11 November 2020 17: 06
                        +1
                        Apparently you haven't studied history well. no one tried to conquer the Finns. they were offered the exchange of territories in order to move the border away from Leningrad. did not agree. that's squeezed out by military means.
                      2. the Saint
                        the Saint 11 November 2020 17: 43
                        -4
                        I have very carefully read books based on documents about the relations of the Russian Empire - the USSR and Finland. For example, "June 25. Stupidity or aggression?" - Mark Solonin. And part of my family has been living in Finnish Espoo for a long time, so I know what Finns think about that period. I can read lectures on this topic.
                      3. Gene84
                        Gene84 13 November 2020 16: 35
                        15
                        Quote: el Santo
                        Mark Solonin

                        Do you read counterfeiters? Bravo! So you are not in the subject.
                      4. the Saint
                        the Saint 13 November 2020 17: 02
                        -1
                        Quote: Gene84
                        Mark Solonin

                        Do you read counterfeiters?

                        The works of Mr. Solonin are based strictly on documents, in contrast to the waste paper of "the chief military historian" comrade Mahmud Gareev, built on senseless propaganda and popular prints.
                2. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 11 November 2020 17: 08
                  -1
                  Quote: el Santo
                  Divided Europe in secret protocols to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Now this is not a secret, but the basics of history.

                  what story is this? liberal fictional? belay
                  the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in the public domain, including the "secret" part. there is no talk of any division of Europe.
                  but actually divided Europe at the Munich Agreement wink not? don't remember?
                  Quote: el Santo
                  Then the two divided Poland, and Stalin (according to the agreement with Hitler) cleaned up the Baltic States with Bessarabia, unsuccessfully tried to conquer Finland when Hitler was waging a war in Western Europe.

                  ha ha ha lol this stream of consciousness is apparently also "the basics of history" laughing
                  in fact, in the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, zones of influence were divided. in accordance with this, the USSR regained the territories occupied by the Poles in 1920, as well as the breakaway Baltic countries.
                  about "the failed capture of Finland in general extravaganza! wassat even the most stubborn Finns know that they retained their sovereignty only by the fact that no one needed it, no one set tasks for the occupation of Finland. but alternative historians have their own alternative reality laughing
                  glad that your lodge on the topic of history is so primitive and ridiculous laughing
                3. the Saint
                  the Saint 11 November 2020 17: 47
                  -4
                  Study the materiel about Arvo Tuominen and Otto Kuusinen, and what Stalin wanted from them, if they were not told at school or at vocational school.
                4. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 11 November 2020 20: 11
                  0
                  Quote: el Santo
                  Study the materiel about Arvo Tuominen and Otto Kuusinen, and what Stalin wanted from them, if they were not told at school or at vocational school.

                  Let's start with the fact that Stalin did not want anything from them. the government of the "Democratic Republic of Finland" was formed which was kept as a scarecrow for negotiations, in fact, everything request Didn't they tell you about this in your vocational school?
                  your "sacred secrets" could have made an impression on someone in the 90th year, but now even a schoolboy will laugh laughing suffer further! bully
                5. the Saint
                  the Saint 11 November 2020 20: 46
                  -2
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  let's start with the fact that Stalin

                  twice ordered the communist Tuominen to return from Stockholm to Moscow to head the pocket-sized Stalinist government of Finland. He, not wishing to become a traitor, whom Kuusinen had to become, flatly refused and broke with Bolshevism forever.
                  Finland did not surrender to Stalin's dictatorship, as the Baltic states did, and defended its independence, pretty much heaping the Stalinist Red Army. And he lives, in the end, much better than those who have been to the socialist camp.

                  PS Rzhu over retired maramoy who climb into my long-standing comments and diligently put cons laughing
                  This energy would be for peaceful purposes.
                6. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 11 November 2020 21: 37
                  -2
                  Quote: el Santo
                  twice ordered the communist Tuominen to return from Stockholm to Moscow

                  ha ha ha wassat really demanded that he return to Moscow because this "Kurbsky" unfinished saw that the USSR did not immediately take the Finnish line of defense, immediately spread to another camp and began scribbling anti-Soviet libels. if I don’t understand, I’ll explain that before the failure of the offensive he was an ardent communist, after the failure he sharply became an anti-communist. Finnish communists consider him nothing more than a traitor request in general, the usual scum. not surprised that you liked him bully
                  Quote: el Santo
                  Finland did not surrender to Stalin's dictatorship, as the Baltic states did, and defended its independence, pretty much heaping the Stalinist Red Army.

                  go nuts !!! wassat there is no such fierce nonsense even in Wikipedia! wassat
                  since you are stuck in the alternative let me remind you of the real story.
                  after the first unsuccessful assault, measures were taken and a second offensive on the Finnish line of defense was prepared. during the second offensive, all this Finnish fortification was broken through within 2 weeks. the Red Army troops reached Vyborg, behind which the Finns no longer had any defensive structures and troops. everything that the Finns could mobilize was pulled onto the defensive line in 1939 during a hidden mobilization request no more reserves. all at the front, at the defeated front.
                  precisely for these objective reasons the Finnish delegation hastened to Moscow. Finland lost 10% of its territory as a result of this "outstanding victory of the Finnish arms". I am amazed at how much you need to be stubborn so that, given the fact that the Finns lost their territory in this war, tell something about the Finnish victory request
                  Quote: el Santo
                  And he lives, in the end, much better than those who have been to the socialist camp.

                  another nonsense. request I live a few hours away from Finland and I can confidently say that my standard of living in St. Petersburg is not lower than the Finnish one, and my friend, who has Finnish citizenship, lives and works here, not there request
                7. the Saint
                  the Saint 12 November 2020 10: 47
                  -1
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  I can confidently say that my standard of living in St. Petersburg is not lower than Finnish,

                  laughing Odd argument laughing
                  I myself can swear that the standard of living of the President of Russia did not even dream of the President of Suomi, the Chancellor of Germany and the Prime Minister of Great Britain combined wink
                8. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 12 November 2020 21: 47
                  0
                  Well, I'm not Putin. quite a representative of the middle class request
                  there is no iron curtain now and there is no problem to go and see how it is there and make sure that on average it is about the same as ours, and sometimes worse.
                9. the Saint
                  the Saint 12 November 2020 22: 16
                  +1
                  There is no need to lie openly. Our middle class has an income of 17 sput, as the national leader recently announced this figure, and you can only go on the metro for this money, and if you need to take a train far out of town, you will, alas, have to go like a hare.
                10. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 12 November 2020 22: 22
                  0
                  Quote: el Santo
                  There is no need to lie openly.

                  try it! you can't do it yet wink
                  Quote: el Santo
                  The middle class has an income of 17 sput

                  not в 17 sput, and from 17 sput. you still can't lie bully apparently already chronically ...
                  well and then ..
                  Quote: el Santo
                  and you can only go on the metro for this money, and if there is a need to go far out of town by train, then, alas, already a hare.

                  another lie based on the original, false, statement laughing
                  how is it? Are you trying not to lie or continue in your usual style? wink
                11. the Saint
                  the Saint 12 November 2020 22: 29
                  +1
                  From 17 sput and ... to? Dimensionless? There are concepts of median salary, purchasing power parity, and generally recognized ratings of both the standard of living and its quality. It is simply unwise to prove that in Russia these indicators are close to the "high middle" of the world.
                12. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 12 November 2020 22: 56
                  0
                  Quote: el Santo
                  From 17 sput and ... to? Dimensionless?

                  OU! Are you not only a liar but also technically illiterate? can't find this data in the search engine? and apparently believe that others are also illiterate? belay
                  According to Rosstat, in 2017, the median salary in Russia was 28 rubles per month. That is, according to the OECD methodology, the middle class includes those Russians who earn at least from 22 100 to 56 690 rubles per month.

                  Quote: el Santo
                  There are concepts of median salary, purchasing power parity, and generally recognized ratings of both the standard of living and its quality.

                  ooo yeah! ratings they are ratings! half a year ago I once again saw the safety rating of the countries in which Sweden was named the safest, and on the same evening in the euronus I see a story about a teenager being killed in Sweden during another shootout between street gangs and Denmark is tightening the access regime on the border with Sweden in connection with the dangerous crime situation in Sweden.
                  and so the ratings are yes! it is authoritative yes lol
                  Quote: el Santo
                  It is simply unwise to prove that in Russia these indicators are close to the "high middle" of the world.
                  Well, of course wassat but repeating all the nonsense from the western press is very clever lol
                  but in principle, yes .. to whom and Navalny is an intelligent person laughing
                13. the Saint
                  the Saint 12 November 2020 23: 10
                  +1
                  The number of crimes and murders with the number of police officers per capita will tell about the security in the country more than news from the media.
                  People vote for quality of life with their feet. And not from the West to Russia, but on the contrary, although they do not want to be allowed there from Russia, they seep in in different ways.
                14. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 12 November 2020 23: 36
                  0
                  Quote: el Santo
                  The number of crimes and murders with the number of police officers per capita will tell about the security in the country more than news from the media.

                  well yes. atozh! out in France and Austria have already "said".
                  Quote: el Santo
                  People vote for quality of life with their feet. And not from the West to Russia, but on the contrary, although they do not want to be allowed there from Russia, they seep in in different ways.

                  what is this nonsense? is your mind stuck in the 80s of the last century? belay this explains a lot good
                15. the Saint
                  the Saint 12 November 2020 23: 58
                  +1
                  Russia is the third largest emigration country in the world after India and Mexico.
                  Unbiased website https://emigrating.ru/statistika-emigratsii-iz-rossii/
                  with numbers to help.
                16. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 13 November 2020 00: 35
                  0
                  Quote: el Santo
                  with numbers to help.

                  #facepalm.
                  table on the departure and arrival of migrants to Russia from 1991 to 2016:
                  Total: Citizens left Russia, thousand people 5721,1; Citizens arrived in Russia, thousand people 12303,6; Difference, thousand people +6582,5.
                  Well, why do people vote with their feet? wink
                17. the Saint
                  the Saint 13 November 2020 00: 50
                  +1
                  Russia is in third place in the world in terms of the number of "losses" for 2017 - there are 10,6 million people in the world who have left the country. This is 7% of the total population of Russia in 2017, and 4% of the total number of emigrants from all countries.

                  The number of emigrants in the world by country of origin, million people
                  1. India 16.6
                  2. Mexico13
                  3.Russia10.6
                  4.China 10.0
                  5. Bangladesh 7.5
                  6. Syria 6.9
                  7.Pakistan5.9
                  8.Ukraine5.9
                  9. Philippines 5.7
                  10. United Kingdom 4.9
                  According to the UN

                  In terms of the number of emigrants in the world, Russia occupies

                  3 place

                  For comparison, India is in first place in terms of the number of emigrants with 16,6 million people, followed by Mexico with 12,9 million people. Russia overtakes the most populous country: China has left 9,9 million people, Bangladesh is fifth with 7,5 million emigrants. Russia is also overtaking disadvantaged countries with a large number of forced migrants: Syria, Pakistan and Ukraine are in the top ten.

                  If we compare Russia with developed countries, it turns out that the number of emigrants from the United States is three times less - 3 million people. From Germany and Great Britain - two times less - 4,2 million people and 4,9 million people. There are even fewer emigrants from Japan all over the world - 831 thousand people.
                18. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 13 November 2020 01: 00
                  0
                  enchantingly laughing I see here, I don't see here request
                  that is, the fact that more came to Russia than left, and more than twice, burns your eyes? gloriously bully
                  Quote: el Santo
                  From Germany and Great Britain - two times less - 4,2 million people and 4,9 million people.

                  and what about the population? Come on, tell us that there are as many as in Russia lol
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 11 November 2020 10: 41
    0
    Have you decided to repeat the Chelyuskin epic?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 November 2020 10: 43
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    What do Americans think about the state of the North Star, if the only combat icebreaker Svalbard (Norway) was contracted to carry out work in the interests of the Pentagon. He had to go to the Beaufort Sea to install "scientific equipment". Without entering the NSR, Svalbard has been to the North Pole by the way.
  • Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 11 November 2020 10: 52
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    Waiting for the Arctic to melt due to global warming
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 11 November 2020 11: 44
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    What tasks the icebreaker will perform is not reported. Business Insider sources say the icebreaker was sent "in pursuit of the Russians."
    Well, how is it not reported? It is written: "... he will oppose Russia." Drive Russians across the Arctic so that life doesn't seem like honey to them. In general, to catch up with horror on presumptuous.
  • Brturin
    Brturin 11 November 2020 13: 36
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    Quote: Petro_tut
    until the Arctic melts

    It melts, of course, it melts, and as scientists say in Russia 2,5 times faster ...
    “We see that the weather also allows us in this matter, the climate is also changing, and our gas carriers also show themselves very well there, in terms of the fact that when these early flights were made in May, they went almost all the way along the Northern Sea Route on their own. There were difficult areas where the support of nuclear icebreakers was required "- director of the NOVATEK sea transportation department Alexander Semenov.
    Head of the Gekon Consulting Center Mikhail Grigoriev - icebreakers will be required "in the limiting areas - in the Vilkitsky Strait, on the Aion ice massif, etc." https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4550349
    But other scientists promise and promise a cooling - "a large influx of fresh water due to melting ice disrupts the circulation of streams (the density of fresh water is lower than saline). It has been experimentally proven that this leads to a weakening (and even stopping) of surface streams of warm water (in particular , Gulf Stream) from the equator to the poles. As a result - to a cooling, first in North America and Europe, and then to a global decrease in temperatures. " https://rg.ru/2019/05/22/reg-urfo/matematiki-globalnoe-poteplenie-privedet-k-rezkomu-poholodaniiu.html
    And what all this will result in - "this is unknown to science. Science is not yet in the know" (from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAV_clhCqC4)
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 11 November 2020 18: 28
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    I don't quite understand what it means to "resist icebreakers in the Arctic", but I believe that the "confrontation" of ONE old antediluvian diesel-electric ship against FIFTY new and newest icebreakers (including many nuclear-powered ships) is hopelessly lost! laughing
  • the Saint
    the Saint 11 November 2020 19: 57
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    The icebreaker is loaded with the most advanced and most powerful economy in the world along with the most powerful armed forces. Somehow they will do it in "opposition". An example is Nord Stream-2, which the patriots vow for some reason to finish building in spite of Germany.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 11 November 2020 21: 28
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      el Santo (Santa Claus)
      Today, 19: 57
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      The icebreaker is loaded with the world's most advanced and most powerful economy along with the most powerful military forces. Somehow they will do it in "confrontation". An example is Nord Stream-2, which the patriots vow for some reason to finish building in spite of Germany.
      On boats or rafts? tongue
  • Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 11 November 2020 22: 34
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    why are you so worried about whether it breaks or not ???)) he also goes where there are Russian icebreakers .... if anything, they will pin him and pull him out and even help in repairs)))))
  • Gato
    Gato 12 November 2020 00: 04
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    In my amateurish opinion, only a large freezer trawler can withstand an icebreaker. wassat
  • Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 12 November 2020 11: 12
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    Greetings in Russian :)
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    * - strangely the link to the video was inserted, but it's worth it. Comrade Admins, correct krivoruky, please :)