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"For more than a month he led everyone by the nose and surrendered Karabakh in one night" - on the streets of Yerevan about the premiere of Pashinyan

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The political forces of Armenia from among 17 parties and social movements announced a large-scale rally for tomorrow. It is reported that the action will take place on the Freedom Square of Yerevan.


The political forces of the Republic of Armenia, including the parties of the National Assembly of Armenia, as well as non-parliamentary parties and associations, announced that they intend to seek the resignation of Prime Minister Pashinyan and the dissolution of the government.

The appeal to the Armenian citizens says that “on the night of November 9-10, 2020 in stories The most shameful page was written in Armenia ”.

At the same time, it is added that it is extremely necessary "to act as a united front, excluding riots and provocations."

Let us remind that from early morning Yerevan turned into an arena of demonstrations. Protesters against Pashinyan's signing of an agreement on the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Karabakh and the transfer of several regions of Nagorno-Karabakh under the control of Azerbaijan, stormed the buildings of parliament and other authorities.

One of those who broke into the parliament building:

We cannot agree that our lands were just given away. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end.

On the streets of Yerevan, protesters say that for more than a month Prime Minister Pashinyan "led the people by the nose, and then surrendered Karabakh in one night."

Let us remind you that earlier the President of Armenia stated that he learned about the agreement signed with Baku through the mediation of Moscow "from the media" and that no one personally consulted with him.

From other statements on the streets of Yerevan:

We need to consolidate. An Armenian cannot touch an Armenian. We take revenge on the Turks.


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  1. KKND
    KKND 10 November 2020 16: 56
    34
    The main thing here is to find a scapegoat. It doesn't matter that the defense budget was 5 times less, it is important to find an extreme one.
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 10 November 2020 17: 01
      10
      History will put everything in its place and give an answer who Pashinyan is: a traitor who surrendered part of Karabakh, or a savior who stopped the bloodshed.
      1. figwam
        figwam 10 November 2020 17: 06
        53
        For more than a month, Prime Minister Pashinyan "led the people by the nose, and then surrendered Karabakh in one night."

        Whom they chose and got. Or maybe all this was conceived, they are like that.
        1. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 10 November 2020 17: 17
          +5
          Quote: figvam
          Whom they chose and got. Or maybe all this was intended, they are such

          It is possible that Soros needed a conflict, and who won it, he was not interested
          1. krot
            krot 10 November 2020 17: 38
            14
            Azerbaijan has well chosen the time when such an inept leader is at the head of Armenia. He could only promise, no more ..
            1. Leeds
              Leeds 10 November 2020 17: 49
              13
              They bought flags and banners about the Russian invaders. But now there will be grievances against all Russians and all of Russia.
              Could, in my opinion, at least fight for Stepanakert. Then we could say that we rested to the last.
              1. atalef
                atalef 10 November 2020 17: 51
                +6
                Quote: Leeds
                They bought flags and banners about the Russian invaders. But now there will be grievances against all Russians and all of Russia.
                Could, in my opinion, at least fight for Stepanakert. Then we could say that we rested to the last.

                and that there would be no flags and banners, they would have fought better?
                1. bar
                  bar 10 November 2020 18: 17
                  10
                  and that there would be no flags and banners, they would have fought better?

                  Last time, without flags, they managed to squeeze 7 regions from Azerbaijan.
                  1. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA 10 November 2020 18: 31
                    +2
                    Quote: bar
                    Last time, without flags, they managed to squeeze 7 regions from Azerbaijan.

                    The previous time, in 2016, the positions of the NKR army were shot by Azerbaijanis about the same as now. It was just that at that time Azerbaijan still did not have the strength for a big war.
                2. d1975
                  d1975 10 November 2020 18: 23
                  +9
                  Dear, the point is not in the flags, but in the fact that they were not ready for war. And how much dirt was poured on Russia. I really don’t feel sorry for them, although I don’t respect the Caspian Turks either. Well, they, at least had an idea, or show off as anyone. You cannot sit on two chairs. The Armenians will have a lesson that Jupiter is allowed, bull is not allowed. Everything was very obvious, you didn't have to be an analyst. Armenia really went nuts and substituted Russia.
                  1. Dmitry Potapov
                    Dmitry Potapov 10 November 2020 18: 50
                    +5
                    Could at least keep the status of the number. If Soros had not been licked and treated with respect to GDP.
                    1. d1975
                      d1975 13 November 2020 22: 40
                      0
                      what is the status quo? Money is not divided into two.
                  2. zwlad
                    zwlad 11 November 2020 07: 20
                    -1
                    Or maybe it was just planned to frame Russia?
                3. Civil
                  Civil 10 November 2020 18: 28
                  17
                  The whole of Armenia lost the war, not one crazy Pashinyan ran through the mountains. Well, the ambition had to be kept in check.
                  1. Revolver
                    Revolver 10 November 2020 19: 08
                    18
                    Quote: Civil
                    not one crazy Pashinyan ran through the mountains

                    He personally did not run through the mountains, neither with a machine gun, nor even light.
                    I don’t remember who said, but something like this: "The old and the rich start wars, and the young and the poor die in them."
                    1. Alexey Polyutkin
                      Alexey Polyutkin 11 November 2020 12: 19
                      0
                      That's definitely said!
                4. Leeds
                  Leeds 10 November 2020 18: 31
                  10
                  The position of Russia and the results acceptable to it could have been different if those events did not take place. I understand that the winning side, like the Turks and the Israelis, is now on yet another emotional upsurge due to the impressive success (not exaggerating) of their UAVs. But is it far-sighted to underestimate the Russian army? It's up to you though. Or do you seriously think that Russia could only observe? We Russians have a short political memory, but the leadership probably drew conclusions for itself then.
              2. KKND
                KKND 10 November 2020 18: 09
                +4
                Quote: Leeds
                They could, in my opinion, at least fight for Stepanakert, then we could say that they resisted to the last.

                So Stepanakert stayed behind them.
                Quote: Leeds
                They bought flags and banners about the Russian invaders. But now there will be grievances against all Russians and all of Russia.

                And what if there was a pro-Russian politician sitting there, we should have "harnessed"? Without a common border? And the resentment there will be so and so.
                1. MTN
                  MTN 10 November 2020 18: 24
                  -25 qualifying.
                  Quote: KKND
                  So Stepanakert stayed behind them.

                  You are confusing. There is no Stepanakert. There is Khankendi. No government in Karabakh. Karabakh is Azerbaijan.
                  1. KKND
                    KKND 10 November 2020 18: 36
                    24
                    Quote: MTN
                    You are confusing. There is no Stepanakert. There is Khankendi. No government in Karabakh. Karabakh is Azerbaijan.

                    I thought for a long time who you are and I have this question: what do you have to do with the administration of this site? Why aren't you banned for a record low rating? Why are you allowed to engage in kindling a flame on the site? Do you raise the site's comments and views? How do you know Appolo i.e. are you an old-timer?
                    1. Leeds
                      Leeds 10 November 2020 18: 45
                      0
                      Quote: KKND
                      Quote: MTN
                      You are confusing. There is no Stepanakert. There is Khankendi. No government in Karabakh. Karabakh is Azerbaijan.

                      I thought for a long time who you are and I have this question: what do you have to do with the administration of this site? Why aren't you banned for a record low rating? Why are you allowed to engage in kindling a flame on the site? Do you raise the site's comments and views? How do you know Appolo i.e. are you an old-timer?


                      Those. here should everyone have one position on all issues? Maybe we won't play madness, since this is a platform for discussions. If not, take everyone out, start with those who do not believe in the success of the BMP-1 in the duel with Abrams, and deny the fact of the capture of KamAZ with javelins near Kharkov.
                      1. KKND
                        KKND 10 November 2020 18: 54
                        14
                        Quote: Leeds
                        Those. here should everyone have one position on all issues? Maybe we won't play madness, since this is a platform for discussions.

                        No, I am for different positions, I have a suspicion that some Israeli comrades like the residents of this site like the professor or the atalef are not from Israel at all. Perhaps these are just avatars of the site's employees, designed to increase the number of comments, views, interest in this resource. Previously, they even had flags that they were from Israel, identified by IP. So, the use of EMNIP proxy servers in 2018 became illegal and the flags disappeared from this resource almost immediately.
                        I still have a lot of circumstantial evidence of this version for a long time to list.
                        In any case, this is just guesswork.
                        Now comrades from Azerbaijan have been added to the comrades from Israel.
                        In any case, I am not claiming anything.
                      2. Walking
                        Walking 10 November 2020 19: 33
                        +4
                        There was a kind of Azerbaijani mafia here, my rating was twice removed for comments against.
                      3. MTN
                        MTN 10 November 2020 19: 36
                        -8
                        Quote: KKND
                        Previously, they even had flags that they were from Israel, identified by IP.

                        Do you know a VPN? Any flag can be put, this is not an indicator.

                        Quote: KKND
                        Now comrades from Azerbaijan have been added to the comrades from Israel.

                        Dear I have been here since 2012.
                      4. KKND
                        KKND 10 November 2020 19: 39
                        +3
                        Quote: MTN
                        Do you know a VPN?

                        So VPN is a proxy server. In the Russian Federation, citizens are prohibited.
                        Quote: MTN
                        Dear I have been here since 2012.

                        Well, this is exactly what makes me suspicious. The site has been working since 2010.
                      5. nobody75
                        nobody75 10 November 2020 19: 42
                        +7
                        VPN and proxy - server are different things. It is impossible to ban them. And it is not necessary. For the first time I hear from you about proxy prohibition.
                        Sincerely
                      6. KKND
                        KKND 10 November 2020 20: 08
                        +4
                        Indeed, I read VPN and proxy is basically allowed. request
                        But there was also a "bucha" from Roskomnadzor on this matter.
                        https://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2017-07-20_iskorenyat_vpn_i_anonimajzery_v_rossii_budut
                        I don't know, maybe something scared the site administration.
                        Maybe they removed the icons for a completely different reason. request
                        In any case, I will not prove anything, and I am not going to.
                      7. nobody75
                        nobody75 10 November 2020 20: 41
                        +3
                        And what can Roskomnadzor do to pptp and OpenVPN protocols? They can be cut only by the provider, deeply analyzing the packets. No one will prevent you from connecting two routers using a VPN. Moreover, users will not even know that they are using it. No, advanced users will certainly see gray ip addresses from geographically distant networks and routes to them. I somehow set up the VPN server in such a way that when I connected, I had a dynamic ip from a remote server and traffic to certain nodes automatically went through the VPN. Mobile providers often cut GRE and it is not possible to transfer the login and password, which means it is legitimate.
                        As for the proxy server, it becomes transparent, this is when the firewall or router automatically turns traffic with destination ports 80 and 443 to the proxy server and opaque when manual or automatic configuration occurs in the browser. In the first case, the user does not even know that his traffic is being proxied. Many companies use this to look at the logs which sites employees visit. The proxy server intercepts all http requests and executes them on its own behalf, there you can even specify the type of browser.
                        Sincerely
              3. Leeds
                Leeds 10 November 2020 22: 23
                0
                Quote: KKND
                Quote: Leeds
                Those. here should everyone have one position on all issues? Maybe we won't play madness, since this is a platform for discussions.

                No, I am for different positions, I have a suspicion that some Israeli comrades like the residents of this site like the professor or the atalef are not from Israel at all. Perhaps these are just avatars of the site's employees, designed to increase the number of comments, views, interest in this resource. Previously, they even had flags that they were from Israel, identified by IP. So, the use of EMNIP proxy servers in 2018 became illegal and the flags disappeared from this resource almost immediately.
                I still have a lot of circumstantial evidence of this version for a long time to list.
                In any case, this is just guesswork.
                Now comrades from Azerbaijan have been added to the comrades from Israel.
                In any case, I am not claiming anything.

                Got the message. I would not be surprised if so))
            2. MTN
              MTN 10 November 2020 19: 40
              0
              Quote: Leeds
              Those. here should everyone have one position on all issues?

              hi Sometimes the audience here doesn't like a different position. There are people who do not like a particular position. There are many disadvantages for this.

              Thanks for the adequate answer to the KKND user
            3. nobody75
              nobody75 10 November 2020 20: 47
              +3
              Quote: MTN
              Sometimes the audience here doesn't like a different position

              Yes, especially when the dead are publicly bullied, like you did yesterday
            4. Leeds
              Leeds 10 November 2020 22: 26
              -3
              Quote: MTN
              Quote: Leeds
              Those. here should everyone have one position on all issues?

              hi Sometimes the audience here doesn't like a different position. There are people who do not like a particular position. There are many disadvantages for this.

              Thanks for the adequate answer to the KKND user

              I have already changed my general's shoulder straps twice for stripes for mercilessness towards the Mihan))
        2. MTN
          MTN 10 November 2020 19: 34
          -1
          Quote: KKND
          I thought for a long time who you are and I have this question: what do you have to do with the administration of this site?

          I have nothing to do with it.

          Quote: KKND
          Why aren't you banned for a record low rating?

          The fact that I have minuses does not mean that I
          Quote: KKND
          Why you are allowed to engage in kindling a flame on the site

          Many accuse, but cannot prove it. Yes, sometimes, alas, I succumb to my emotions, but I am always ready for an objective dialogue.

          Quote: KKND
          Do you raise the site's comments and views?

          I personally never thought about it. I write when I see someone is not telling the truth. I write when I have at least 90% facts. I do not like it when they are looking for a speck of dust in someone else's eye while they do not see the logs under their own eye.

          Quote: KKND
          How do you know Appolo

          Was my friend. Together sometimes (when the time happened) met. They ate and drank. It's a pity such a man died.

          If you write honestly, we can become friends. I do not like to communicate with amateurs and liars, I really like to read the local experts.
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 10 November 2020 19: 43
            +1
            Do you like to mock the dead?
    2. Leeds
      Leeds 10 November 2020 18: 41
      +8
      Quote: KKND
      Quote: Leeds
      They could, in my opinion, at least fight for Stepanakert, then we could say that they resisted to the last.

      So Stepanakert stayed behind them.
      Quote: Leeds
      They bought flags and banners about the Russian invaders. But now there will be grievances against all Russians and all of Russia.

      And what if there was a pro-Russian politician sitting there, we should have "harnessed"? Without a common border? And the resentment there will be so and so.

      Until December 1 or whatever.

      In my opinion, if desired, our leadership, considering it appropriate, could provide support comparable to the Turkish one, and then everything would be delayed in the mountainous regions and could win back in the opposite direction. The Ukrainian Armed Forces also used aviation at first, if anyone has forgotten, and then sat in the boilers. A success hangover can be painful.
      But it turned out the way it did.
      And today's protests and issued slogans resemble a conventional Negro boxer, impudent in a duel of views and on Twitter, but who, after the lights went out and the judge counted and raised his hands, begins to rush and rush around the corners “I can still fight, you stopped the fight early ". Such an analogy
  2. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 10 November 2020 19: 48
    +2
    Quote: Leeds
    They bought flags and banners about the Russian invaders. But now there will be grievances against all Russians and all of Russia.

    Well, “you can't put a scarf on every mouth!” - so they used to say in Russia! Why should we worry? Us Rat! How will we survive!
  3. private person
    private person 10 November 2020 19: 57
    +3
    They bought flags and banners about the Russian invaders.

    So they are still waving flags, it's not like going to fight, they won't kill.
  4. bk0010
    bk0010 10 November 2020 22: 05
    +1
    Quote: Leeds
    Could, in my opinion, at least fight for Stepanakert.
    They had to fight for Shusha, this is the key, after taking it there was nothing to catch.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 10 November 2020 22: 50
      0
      Excuse me, they are who?
      Sincerely
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 10 November 2020 23: 35
        0
        Quote: nobody75
        Excuse me, they are who?
        Armenians. After its capture for Stepanakert, it makes no sense to fight (IMHO, of course): they will shoot (there are less than 4 km to the outskirts of Stepanakert in a straight line, artillery can hit almost with direct fire).
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 59
          +1
          Do the Armenians actually need it? Karabakh? If they needed him so much, they would not have expelled the "Karabakhites" in 2018 ...
          Sincerely
  • 210ox
    210ox 10 November 2020 17: 52
    11
    Unskillful? I think he's a calculating and slippery guy. However, maybe the Armenians deserve it. They have poured too much dirt on us lately.
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 November 2020 18: 04
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      However, maybe
      it's too much
      Quote: 210ox
      the Armenians deserve it.
      that's for sure
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 10 November 2020 17: 54
    +6
    Quote: krot
    Azerbaijan has well chosen the time when such an inept leader is at the head of Armenia. He could only promise, no more ..

    Armenians always have one show-off, so the moment has nothing to do with it.
    1. Leeds
      Leeds 10 November 2020 18: 47
      +3
      Quote: lis-ik
      Quote: krot
      Azerbaijan has well chosen the time when such an inept leader is at the head of Armenia. He could only promise, no more ..

      Armenians always have one show-off, so the moment has nothing to do with it.


      When the army technically loses in all respects, it is not the show-off that decides the outcome.
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  • RUSS
    RUSS 10 November 2020 22: 02
    -1
    Quote: 41 REGION
    soros needs

    Who is Soros?
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 10 November 2020 18: 21
    +1
    Quote: figvam
    For more than a month, Prime Minister Pashinyan "led the people by the nose, and then surrendered Karabakh in one night."

    Whom they chose and got. Or maybe all this was conceived, they are like that.

    We do not know what was planned there. But ... Pashinyan did not have to puff up and insult Aliyev, but to conduct endless negotiations, gradually returning the occupied areas. And the NGO would have remained with the Armenians. But no, I had to play tough Armenian. Got it, damn it.
  • Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 10 November 2020 22: 51
    14
    Quote: figvam
    Whom they chose and got.

    I think they were not expecting this. A kind of "pleasant surprise" ...
  • jovanni
    jovanni 10 November 2020 17: 21
    +8
    Quote: Scary_L.
    ... who Pashinyan is: a traitor who surrendered part of Karabakh, or a savior who stopped the bloodshed.

    It doesn't matter who he is, this character, if only not another tenant of the city of Rostov. Go out to Philadelphia to go to his Bidon ... If he can get off ...
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 10 November 2020 19: 21
      0
      And this [waste of digestion with the letter "G"] we need in America? No, no, to Rostov! Well, or to the native land of small but proud and independent Armenia, and on top of a slab with a sentimental inscription.
  • SSR
    SSR 10 November 2020 22: 07
    0
    Quote: Scary_L.
    Pashinyan: a traitor who surrendered part of Karabakh, or a savior who stopped the bloodshed.

    So it will be, and if now Azerbaijan and Armenia open the way for each other, then this toast-talker will waddle, beat his chest and fight to the last Armenian.))

    One of those who broke into the parliament building:

    We cannot agree that our lands were just given away. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end.

    And where was he before?)) Why is he fighting with the "parliament"?
    He just knows that the parliament will not sweep him with art.
    PS.
    I hope they will share and there will be peace.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 10 November 2020 22: 59
      +3
      Quote: SSR
      I hope they will share and there will be peace.

      Don't get your hopes up. Peace was there only under the Russian Empire and the USSR. Armenians lived in their villages, Azerbaijanis in theirs, no one touched anyone, did not demand any sovereignty, and did not even dream of them. But in the interval between the Empire and the USSR, and at the end of the USSR, when all and sundry began to demand sovereignty, there and then began to rashes. Now, if someday there will again be the Baku, Erivan, and Tiflis provinces, there will be peace and order.
  • Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 11 November 2020 08: 31
    0
    And why am I not sorry for the Armenians, well, not a bit ???
  • hrych
    hrych 10 November 2020 17: 02
    11
    Congratulations, Karabakh .... is ours. And if it weren't for the little magpie, this would not have happened. Also, thanks to the Maydauns for the Crimea and Donbass. Thanks to Saakavshvylo for South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Thank you all for the Syrian shelf. Maybe Soros is our man? wassat
    1. KKND
      KKND 10 November 2020 17: 07
      13
      Quote: hrych
      Congratulations, Karabakh .... is ours.

      And in 5 years? Then the peacekeepers were not in all of Karabakh, and Aliyev overcame a part. Fortifications must be built in 5 years, equipment must be purchased .... At whose expense will Armenians buy equipment? There should be accounts for tens of billions of dollars.
      1. hrych
        hrych 10 November 2020 17: 12
        +3
        Quote: KKND
        not all over Karabakh, Aliyev still squeezed

        Well, he fought. In general, it is clear that the Russian Federation will dominate, but because it is the Russian Federation laughing For Armenians, technology is shish. There is OUR technique, with OUR fighters. And the soldiers of the NKR army ... will be ours, not theirs.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 10 November 2020 23: 14
          0
          Quote: hrych
          And the soldiers of the NKR army ... will be ours, not theirs.

          Do you need it for Russian guys to shed blood for Karabakh or Aptsax, whatever you call it? But there will be no peace, at best a shaky truce, so they will be fired on from both sides.
          1. hrych
            hrych 11 November 2020 02: 12
            +2
            No one will shoot, and the reason is precisely in the control of the RF FSB of the road breaking through the blockade, both in Armenia, as in NKR and in Nakhichevan. Which is larger than N. Karabakh and with almost half a million population. Due to the blockade, there is no extraction of the most valuable minerals, such as molybdenum. The lifting of blockades is the main result of the war. And the control of the path is ours.
      2. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 10 November 2020 17: 24
        +9
        And after 5 years?

        Wanguyu - when our peacekeepers leave, and Azerbaijan integrates and strengthens the territories it has won, then there will be a new reason to resume hostilities. Naturally, Armenia again will not be ready ... if in 25-30 years they have not been able to create an effective army and defense, then 5 is definitely not enough.
        1. KKND
          KKND 10 November 2020 17: 28
          +4
          Quote: Archivist Vasya
          then there will be a new reason to resume hostilities.

          It is possible, as in this war, for no reason. The return of the occupied territories is a great excuse.
          The most interesting battlefield for Azerbaijan remained and this is equipment, spare parts, fortifications.
          The spirit of patriotism is high.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 10 November 2020 18: 13
            0
            Now, in my opinion, Baku should be "drawn" into the CSTO and the EAEU. Otherwise, I am afraid that Erdogan will "drag" Azerbaijanis into his "showdown" in Libya, Syria and Iraq.
            Yerevan needs a corridor to Russia, Baku to Nakhichevan - do they bargain ?! hi
            1. Alexander Galaktionov
              Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 18: 22
              -5
              Baku and NATO country Turkey are brothers, that NATO is getting closer to the borders of Russia Putin will treat Erdogan with ice cream and Erdo's friend will say come on now and export Iskander take C 400 bought Iskander now Take
            2. VyacheSeymour
              VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 18: 41
              +1
              Now, in my opinion, Baku should be "drawn" into the CSTO and the EAEU.

              Well, until Baku and Yerevan settle everything, it is unlikely ... Azerbaijan has not been torn into any kind of unity before, - and here Armenia will be against ... - well, they will not again (after the defeat in Karabakh) Armenia defiantly tilt!
              Otherwise, I am afraid that Erdogan will "drag" Azerbaijanis into his "showdown" in Libya, Syria and Iraq.

              And that Baku gave reason to doubt its political maturity?
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 11 November 2020 13: 56
                0
                "Two countries, one people". Involved by all means.
                1. VyacheSeymour
                  VyacheSeymour 12 November 2020 04: 46
                  -1
                  "Two countries, one people". Involved by all means.

                  Well, you know better ... - from the gallery then ...
                  1. Essex62
                    Essex62 12 November 2020 07: 17
                    0
                    Aliyev lies under the Sultan, it can be seen even from the basement.
                    1. VyacheSeymour
                      VyacheSeymour 12 November 2020 09: 45
                      -1
                      Aliyev lies under the sultan, it can be seen even from the basement

                      Get out of the basement - look at the light of day! ...
                      all life in the vertual will pass! ... The nuclear winter is over, and has not begun!
                    2. Essex62
                      Essex62 12 November 2020 20: 40
                      0
                      I don't see anything good in this world. And my life was spent in another world. Human and comfortable. It is a pity that not all, was born late. What kind of virtual are you broadcasting to a Bolshevik-materialist?
      3. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 10 November 2020 18: 23
        +4
        Quote: Archivist Vasya
        Wangyu - when our peacekeepers leave,

        Are you sure they will leave? There is nothing more permanent than temporary.
      4. Cron
        Cron 10 November 2020 20: 47
        0
        Quote: Archivist Vasya
        And after 5 years?

        Wanguyu - when our peacekeepers leave, and Azerbaijan integrates and strengthens the territories it has won, then there will be a new reason to resume hostilities. Naturally, Armenia again will not be ready ... if in 25-30 years they have not been able to create an effective army and defense, then 5 is definitely not enough.

        If you take a map and look at the territories that went to Azerbaijan, you will see that there is no talk of creating an effective defense there. Stepanakert is in full view, the dominant heights are behind the Azerbaijanis, nothing will be left of the city in a matter of hours. And the very territory that the Armenians inherited is in fact surrounded. In short, the question is closed.
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 22: 54
          0
          Does the city of Baku have an effective defense against the Caspian Flotilla? And what about Istanbul from the Black Sea Fleet? Only about NATO is not necessary ... They simply will not have time to help, even if they want to.
          Sincerely
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 10 November 2020 23: 05
            -2
            Quote: nobody75
            And what about Istanbul from the Black Sea Fleet?

            The Turkish Navy is 2 heads superior to the Russian Black Sea Fleet
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 08
              +3
              For TNW? At the Black Sea Fleet, if one "Moscow" is shot by "Vulcan" ...
              Sincerely
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 10 November 2020 23: 09
                -6
                Yes Yes. TNW. Storyteller.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 10
                  +3
                  The storyteller is Aliyev - he tried to reach the end, but only reached the handle
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik 10 November 2020 23: 13
                    -6
                    Quote: nobody75
                    The storyteller is Aliyev - he tried to reach the end, but only reached the handle

                    What he sought and fulfilled. Instead of losing their soldiers, Russian soldiers will do everything. And the corridor to Nakhichevan is a wonderful dessert they only dreamed of.
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              3. nobody75
                nobody75 11 November 2020 15: 31
                0
                Now there is our military base in Azerbaijan ... And yours?
              4. nobody75
                nobody75 11 November 2020 15: 31
                0
                What he sought and fulfilled.

                Are you talking about Pashaev?
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 10 November 2020 18: 19
    +1
    If they buy it or they will continue to rake it.
  • Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 11 November 2020 07: 56
    -4
    will be sold on credit
  • Bagatur
    Bagatur 10 November 2020 17: 20
    -18 qualifying.
    Krim and Donbas are yours, Ukraine has lost ... It's a great replacement ...
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 17: 35
      12
      Ukraine was lost in 1991, and Crimea was returned to in 2014. Duc Crimea and Donbass are more expensive than the rest of Ukraine laughing
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 10 November 2020 18: 02
        -5
        Quote: hrych
        Duc Crimea and Donbass are more expensive than the rest of Ukraine

        Exactly? From Sumy closer to Moscow than from Crimea, and from Kharkov?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 10 November 2020 18: 15
          +9
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: hrych
          Duc Crimea and Donbass are more expensive than the rest of Ukraine

          Right? From Sumy closer to Moscow than from Crimea, and from Kharkov?

          How can it be "exactly"when talking about attitude, and you about kilometers request
      2. Lvalentin
        Lvalentin 10 November 2020 22: 05
        -4
        Dear, Donbass is not ours and will never be ours. There are no Russian troops or administrative political departments and so on. There is not even an inclination to integrate something. And if anyone speaks Russian, it means nothing. And the "North Wind" is not subject to Russia. Once the goals of the project are met, everything will be merged. Either under the Minsk agreements, or by military means. This project reminds me of the ISIS project. There, too, they supplied 300000 Syrian army, 200000 Iraqi army, 100000 Peshmerga from Baghdad to Damascus. And everyone is sure that this was done by the barmaley on carts.
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 22: 17
          +2
          Quote: Lvalentin
          Donbass is not ours

          And our citizens
        2. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 22: 56
          +1
          In fact, ISIS is the Iraqi army and was ...
          Sincerely
    2. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 10 November 2020 17: 41
      +9
      Cream is Cho? The same as the whale? For this in the Crimea, you can get it in the face ... And having told you a whale, what do we need Ukraine? Taki Bandera Ukraine? It is needed as a territory, without a weathervane-boys and a weathervane-girls. So, for information.
    3. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound 10 November 2020 18: 10
      11
      Firstly, Ukraine was not lost not in 2014, but 20 years before that, at least, and secondly, if it were not for the Crimea and Donbass back home in 2014, then your overseas owners in my native Sevastopol have been "settling in" for 6 years ... And I am absolutely sure of all this, tk. I drew my confidence not from newspapers with TVs. And they lost Ukraine not because they took Crimea, but because they left Crimea with the pot-headed Ukraine, so it's a great replacement, at least they took something of their own!
      Well, is the causal relationship restored?
    4. Clear
      Clear 10 November 2020 18: 11
      +4
      Quote: bagatura
      Krim and Donbas are yours, Ukraine has lost ... It's a great replacement ...

      You are right, for me, such a cool replacement good
      Let the one who found her (the lost Ukraine), he babysit with her.
    5. Karabin
      Karabin 10 November 2020 18: 52
      -2
      Quote: bagatura
      Cool replacement ...

      Here is an unpleasant, but true. Therefore, the minuses were thrown.
      Quote: bagatura
      Cream and Donbas are yours,

      Crimea is ours, but not 100%. As before, many large Russian companies, incl. with a controlling stake in the state, they do not work there. The status of Donbass is even more uncertain than Artsakh had until recently.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 11 November 2020 14: 04
        0
        And where does the bourgeoisie? We are talking about the people. For the backbone, the margin is the homeland. Psat our moneybags of sanctions and raids on their accounts and real estate over the hill. So they don't work in Crimea.
  • halpat
    halpat 10 November 2020 17: 45
    +3
    Quote: hrych
    Congratulations, Karabakh .... is ours. And if it weren't for the little magpie, this would not have happened. Also, thanks to the Maydauns for the Crimea and Donbass. Thanks to Saakavshvylo for South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Thank you all for the Syrian shelf. Maybe Soros is our man? wassat

    George Soros is an old Hungarian Jew who served the SS Germans in his youth during the time of Horthy.
    He was even once asked if he was ashamed of those times. And he answered clearly: No.
    And he didn't comment anymore.
    So his position is clear and understandable.
  • Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 17: 45
    -4
    Donbass what this is a direct ukram lesson showed how they need to do with Donbass that they will soon, with the support of Baydan, do
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 17: 53
      +9
      Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
      what they will soon do with the support of Baydan

      First, you need to prepare for this for 30 years. like Aliyev. Secondly, it is necessary to elect a soroset to the LDNR, ala Pashinyan. Thirdly, you need to have money for the war, as Aliyev's wells give. Maybe something is raging wassat Fourth, you must not have an enemy of the Russian nation. It hurts good fighters. Fifth, not to have a land or sea border with the Russian Federation. Change the geography. wassat And then a lesson, straight to use laughing
      1. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 18: 06
        -4
        This is a lesson on Karabakh that Azerbaijan showed with Turkey, Ukrainians will take it into account.This is how the Armenians did not recognize Karabakh and Russia did not recognize Donbass
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 18: 22
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
          Armenians did not recognize Karabakh and Russia did not recognize Donbass

          So Armenia and not Russia. The wrong scale.
          1. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 18: 27
            -7
            Russia also does not recognize Donbass, and if the Ukrainians do not bother them, they will merge as an example of how Azerbaijan destroyed the C 300 in Armenia itself, we are in the CSTO))
            1. hrych
              hrych 10 November 2020 18: 52
              +8
              Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
              Russia also does not recognize Donbass

              Of course ... they issued passports and that's it
              1. Alexander Galaktionov
                Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 19: 00
                -6
                Passports and what? They will say an obvious occupation and the mercenaries will say with these passports, if it’s true they still have pastors 404, then it’s more difficult, although the Kremlin will also surrender Donbass
                1. hrych
                  hrych 10 November 2020 19: 03
                  +6
                  Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
                  will hand over Donbass

                  can we wait for the result, but let's not fantasize? laughing
            2. Amba412
              Amba412 10 November 2020 21: 12
              +2
              We did not recognize Ossetia until 08.08.08. Remind me of how it ended for the Georgians? For ukrov, everything will be much worse
          2. Karabin
            Karabin 10 November 2020 18: 57
            -7
            Quote: hrych
            Not that scale.

            THAT scale remains in memory. In reality, it is equal to Turkish, which Erdogan has repeatedly checked.
            1. hrych
              hrych 10 November 2020 19: 06
              +6
              Quote: Karabin
              Erdogan has repeatedly checked

              On its own skin ... with an economic blow of tens of billions, destroyed by sabotage under three dozen elite pilots and under a hundred wounded. In the change of caste by ruling Turkey for a century, etc.
              1. Karabin
                Karabin 10 November 2020 19: 36
                -5
                Quote: hrych
                On my own skin ...

                Even so. But this does not negate the fact that the scale of Russia's influence is at the Turkish level, despite the presence of nuclear weapons.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 10 November 2020 21: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: Karabin
                  influence of the Russian Federation at the level of Turkish

                  The thwarted coup and the destroyed caste that ruled Turkey for a century are on the conscience of the Russian Federation. Therefore, the influence of the Russian Federation on Turkey itself is enormous. Blue and Turkish streams make the Turkish economy fatally dependent on the Russian Federation. On the contrary, the influence of Turkey? Turkish panties? Well, yes, they shit in the Caucasus, there was a case. Therefore, there can be no equal influence in the region of the country with us, depending on us, with the regime, in whose enthronement our key role. By the very influence on the Transcaucasia. The influence of Turkey on Georgia is conditional. So Adjara has strong positions and that's it. Russia, on the other hand, has Abkhazia and South Ossetia under complete control. The Turks have no influence on Armenia at all, while the Russian Federation still has a military base and completely controls the economy. Azerbaijan, so rather the Turks depend on it for hydrocarbons. Russia is the main supplier of weapons. Our troops are in Karabakh. We also need to see who influences AzR more. Moreover, supplies to Nakhichevan are being controlled by the RF FSB.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 10 November 2020 18: 06
        -5
        Quote: hrych
        First you need to prepare for this for 30 years.

        What they do
        Quote: hrych
        Soros should be elected to the LDNR, ala Pashinyan

        And that was done, even if not from Soros. What is the credibility of the new ones? Where are those warriors who could carry along and were the face of the LPNR?
        Quote: hrych
        you need not have an enemy of the Russian nation.

        What nation is this? Are Belarusians and Ukrainians not Slavs? How many heroes in WWII were their nationalities?
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 18: 27
          +5
          Quote: Silvestr
          What nation is this?

          Belarusians and Little Russians are of course Russian. Pasechnik was the head of the LPR Ministry of State Security, and Pushilin was one of the Partyigenosse of the Russian spring. This is all right. Since 14, 30 years have not yet passed laughing
        2. bober1982
          bober1982 10 November 2020 19: 22
          +3
          Quote: Silvestr
          Where are those warriors who

          Dear Sylvester, and you have a lexicon, Bandera, but ...
      3. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 18: 08
        -4
        Hrych and who is the head of the DPR laughing Pushilin is a former MMM man with a passport of the Russian Federation and reg under St. Petersburg
      4. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 18: 11
        -3
        Yes I look and recourse where Mozgovoy, Motorola, Givi and other prominent militiamen Here even Strelkov and Olkhon gnawed at it, which is very bad
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 18: 29
          +6
          Warlords are not good rulers. Pushilin is a significant figure in the Russian Spring. For the past, including MMM ... amnesty. You never know what happened. No one is sinless, except Christ.
          1. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 10 November 2020 18: 33
            -7
            Yes, they removed all the field workers for the People, they appointed someone who would hand over everything according to the instructions from the Kremlin
        2. Amba412
          Amba412 10 November 2020 21: 22
          -2
          Shooters are not an indicator. He lives quietly in Russia, and muddies the waters in social networks. But Motorola was clearly removed. If you can still attach the 9th special regiment to Givi. There was a classic work. The most taught this, then to undermine the elevator in an apartment building, only their surroundings are tied up
          1. rotfuks
            rotfuks 10 November 2020 22: 37
            +1
            What did you keep silent about Alexander Zakharchenko? There is pure sabotage with the participation of foreign states. The cafe visitors were watched through a video camera and blew up at the right moment. For such an online disruption, Ukraine simply does not have the technology and resources. Yes, and Givi was blown up by first introducing a blonde to him. Blonda rubbed into his trust for six months. This is also not Ukrainian handwriting. And Motorulla was not leaked from his entourage, but obviously with the participation of his wife.
            1. Amba412
              Amba412 10 November 2020 23: 23
              +1
              Lord! Well, what resources are needed for remote blasting? We only need people who will merge time and place. And everything else is for straight hands. This is not nuclear technology. And with straight hands, unfortunately, everything is fine with dill. If my memory serves me, 6 out of 22 GRU special forces brigades in Ukraine were based. And nobody canceled the intelligence faculty at the Kiev school. And from there, half of the special forces officers left. So, to my great regret, they have the technology and training.
              1. rotfuks
                rotfuks 11 November 2020 05: 13
                0
                Don't entangle the Lord in such stories. You don't seem to be blonde. Before the explosion, Zakharchenko removed a mine in the toilet of another cafe and examined the mine. Mina was with a video camera and watched all the visitors to the outhouse. Judging by the quality of the camera and the method of signal transmission, the mine was not Ukrop. The video signal was transmitted by satellite to completely non-brothers and to another country. Apparently, after removing the mine, the specialists calmed down and Zakharchenko was caught on a different technology.
            2. Amba412
              Amba412 10 November 2020 23: 31
              0
              And with Givi, just a classic of the genre. There was the main problem in the group's departure. And everything else is routine. For a couple of days of observation, calculate the daily routine of the battalion commander, calculate the windows of his office and, during the morning debriefing, cut a bumblebee shot through the window. The task is not difficult
              1. rotfuks
                rotfuks 11 November 2020 05: 02
                -1
                About Givi and a bumblebee shot through the window is the version for the official media. Don't believe these fairy tales. There was a remote detonation.
    2. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound 10 November 2020 18: 22
      +6
      Only Banderzyans with "Donbass region", walking on a small one, do not take into account the direction of the wind and all the time walk against the wind, the north wind. And they return very upset, periodically going on a big trip, with trousers full of impressions. And Biden is like that, he does not feel sorry for either Banderzian or diapers for democracy wink
  • Leeds
    Leeds 10 November 2020 17: 50
    +3
    Quote: hrych
    Congratulations, Karabakh .... is ours. And if it weren't for the little magpie, this would not have happened. Also, thanks to the Maydauns for the Crimea and Donbass. Thanks to Saakavshvylo for South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Thank you all for the Syrian shelf. Maybe Soros is our man? wassat

    For examination.
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 18: 02
      +3
      Quote: Leeds
      For examination

      Viktor Troshka?
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 November 2020 17: 52
    +5
    "Congratulations, Karabakh .... is ours" ///
    ---
    In the sense - Azerbaijani?
    I didn't know that you are a patriot of this country. recourse
    The surrender of Armenia sincerely upset many ...
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 18: 01
      -4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      In the sense - Azerbaijani?

      Our troops entered there without a fight (ours). Take control of the border and communications. They take control of communications to Nakhichevan, etc. If you don't understand what this means, then learn geopolitics, sonny ... from Putin laughing laughing
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 10 November 2020 18: 21
        +3
        I'm learning from you. You have a curious world in your head, parallel and, as it were, the reverse of the real world. fellow I love people with a similar fantasy. good
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 18: 57
          +7
          Quote: voyaka uh
          You have a curious world in your head

          You write from right to left, but speak in a purely written language, without vowels, which from the bulldozer put Masorets and even then not everywhere. laughing Therefore, your world is different from the holes ... the rest. wassat
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 10 November 2020 20: 32
          +5
          Quote: voyaka uh
          You have a curious world in your head, parallel and, as it were, the reverse of the real world.

          And what is the "parallel world" of your interlocutor? The man with the nickname Khrych, it seems, has not confused anything. Aliyev gladly accepted the bone from the Kremlin table, not the whole of Karabakh. And I would try not to rejoice after the knocked down turntable and the death of our two military men. We are bringing in a decent military contingent there, which in modern history is de facto Russian land, and de jure somehow does not care
      2. KKND
        KKND 10 November 2020 18: 22
        +2
        Quote: hrych
        Our troops entered there without a fight (ours). Take control of the border and communications. Take control of communications to Nakhichevan, etc.

        By the way, it reminded me of 1999 and the rush of our paratroopers to Pristina. I was little then, but I remember those victorious reports on TV, how we bent the Americans and now everything will be ours.
        Then, many years later, they began to speak completely different words. As always, our propaganda is on top.
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 19: 01
          +5
          Quote: KKND
          By the way, it reminded me of 1999 and the rush of our paratroopers to Pristina.

          Not this way. Here is the mutual consent of the warring parties. The airfield was then captured, and the Bulgarians did not give the air corridor for the transfer of reinforcements. Nooooo, EBN, was so impressed by the events in Yugoslavia that the course of the Russian Federation changed and Putin appeared to the people. This throw is not in vain, oh, not in vain. The chain of cause and effect has been launched. Something like this.
      3. Bully
        Bully 10 November 2020 19: 22
        +4
        Our troops entered there without a fight (ours). Take control of the border and communications

        I agree, colleague. State think, geopolitically good ... Most of the inhabitants piously believe what is literally written in the contracts
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 10 November 2020 18: 23
      +1
      After such a drain, their surrender may well be like a victory for them.
  • 210ox
    210ox 10 November 2020 17: 53
    +2
    Our? It will become Turkish in five years.
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 17: 58
      -1
      Quote: 210ox
      It will become Turkish in five years

      In five years, there will be no Turkey either wassat
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 10 November 2020 18: 31
        -4
        dreamer .. you called me .. dreamer .. Hrych .. What are the prerequisites for the disappearance of Turkey? or so .. Th thread to say if only? maybe you are just an optimist looking for something good in everything .. well then I understand .. and in addition the question .. is that now in the Azrb there will be a base of Turkish "peacekeepers" is Putin's victory? Oh well..
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 18: 50
          +2
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          What are the prerequisites for the disappearance of Turkey?

          Erdogan's conflict with the US and EU. Conflict with Arabs and Jews. Conflict with Kurds, Armenians and Greeks. Conflict with the Kemalist Gulenists. Looming economic disaster.
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          something good in everything

          And what is wrong with the seizure of NKR and communications by peacekeepers, i.e. Russian army? People are mercilessly fighting for this. And we took the topic and the most important strategic lands without a fight.
        2. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 19: 58
          +7
          What are the prerequisites for the disappearance of Turkey?

          Gülen is alive and free. For the Saudis, "Neo-Ottomanism" is like a bone in the throat. They do not want to share the "Gift of Allah". And Erdogan will sooner or later challenge control over Mecca and Medina. In addition, Turkey supports Qatar, hated by the House of Saud ... Iran also saw the Neo-Ottoman Empire in a coffin and in white slippers.
          Many people think that Turkey's influence in Transcaucasia and Central Asia is due to Erdogan's militant policies. But this is not the case. Turkey's penetration into these regions is the result of the painstaking work of the Gulenists. In fact, Erdogan is wasting the resources accumulated before him, which completely suits Russia.
          Sincerely
          1. Amba412
            Amba412 10 November 2020 21: 27
            +3
            You have forgotten that Azeris are Shiites. And Gülen is held in high esteem by their imam
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 10 November 2020 22: 19
              +1
              You are absolutely right! Aliyev has already thrown Erdogan ...
              Sincerely
      2. Leeds
        Leeds 10 November 2020 18: 52
        -5
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: 210ox
        It will become Turkish in five years

        In five years, there will be no Turkey either wassat

        There they called for a person to be banned for a low rating, but here the plus-size marshal gives out such that the administration should think about who is "more useful")))
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 19: 08
          +2
          You are her mother, history is more valuable wassat
        2. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 22: 37
          +1
          In five years, there will be no Turkey either
          There they called for a person to be banned for a low rating, but here the plus-size marshal gives out such that the administration should think about who is "more useful")))

          In vain you are so ...
          The revival of the Ottoman Empire is the death of not only the Saudi kingdom, but all the "rich" states of the Gulf. Iraq, for example, was also her wilayet ...
          And how do you think the Arabs treat the "friend Recep"?
          And the Saudis literally feed Egypt with bread for their money. Among the Arab countries, this is a state with a strong army and the largest mob. resource ... Do you think Egypt just got into a fight with Turkey in Libya? Why would he want the Mistral? And who paid for them?
          How long will Israel survive if Erdogan becomes Sultan? They did not forget about the "Freedom Flotilla" ...
          Sincerely
  • Clear
    Clear 10 November 2020 18: 07
    +4
    Quote: hrych
    Also, thanks to the Maydauns for Crimea and Donbass.

    Really yes ... They would have waited a little with the next elections and the Banderaites would have come to power anyway, and the best thing is, we would have paid the rent of the naval base in Sevostopol ...
  • Runoway
    Runoway 10 November 2020 18: 10
    -4
    Please explain what I don’t understand recourse
    Saakavshvylo for South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

    -YU. Ossetia may have been returned, but Georgia lost its ally even before Saakashvili, now our enemies are fierce, and the barges on the shelves and% of businessmen in Moscow, and what is South Ossetia + a freeloader (gas / electricity at a free price and permanent unpaid loans)
    Donbass
    and where is he our Donbass ??? Thrown in limbo Russian people living under bullets in global poverty. Again, + maintenance costs, their coal did not surrender to anyone. In fact, they did not give the ukram and did not take it for themselves. They created an offshore zone in its purest form and spat on people.
    Thank you all for the Syrian shelf

    Well, here, in general, Zhuravlik is not even in the sky, but perhaps somewhere over the horizon, they developed their sea shelves with the help of Shell before the sanctions, and nobody invests or develops their own, ridiculously in Kapotna, Hydrocracking was built under Italian supervision from Italian pipes, their NO.
    Karabakh .... ours
    Why do we need him ???? Children to serve the raids of the barmaleev to fight off ?? Armenia was lost with the arrival of Pashinyan, Azerbaijan is now great, can afford to shoot down Russian helicopters with impunity (friend Erdogan apparently taught)
    But half of Moscow is in Azeris and Armenians, why do we need them, Armenians even have their own TV channel (TNT)
    We (RF) have all the trump cards for economic leverage in our hands, and we are friends and we collect spits in our direction
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 18: 35
      +2
      There was no ally - Georgia. Donbass received Russian citizenship, received the Russian economy, received military assistance. And de jure does not mean anything when de facto LDNR ... ours.
      Quote: Runoway
      Armenia was lost with the arrival of Pashinyan

      And Armenia was not lost and Azerbaijan under our control.
      Quote: Runoway
      and spitting in our direction

      They spit with weakness.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 10 November 2020 18: 40
      +6
      Quote: Runoway
      -YU. Ossetia may have been returned, but Georgia lost its ally even before Saakashvili, now our enemies are fierce

      And independent Georgia has never been an ally. That in the Civil, when the Georgians fell first under the Germans, and then under the British and captured the entire Sochi region. What in the 90s, when the Russian Armed Forces pulled out of Abkhazia (actually from the execution) Chevy immediately demanded "invaders - get out"(I'm not talking about his predecessor).
    3. Amba412
      Amba412 10 November 2020 21: 32
      +2
      I served in Georgia for a term in 90-91. So they were not allies of either the USSR or Russia. ki they what then what now
  • times
    times 10 November 2020 17: 03
    22
    No matter how you have to bring peacekeepers to Armenia ...
    1. Oleg123219307
      Oleg123219307 10 November 2020 17: 30
      +4
      Quote: mal
      No matter how you have to bring peacekeepers to Armenia ...

      No matter how it is necessary to save the 102nd base, it is no longer necessary to bring peacekeepers to Armenia. I don't like their current internal political tendencies. Common slogans - Pashinyan and Putin sold us to Erdogan and Aliyev, the Russians won, the war to the end. On this wave, many will want to come to power. Nationalists will come to power, shoot the peacekeepers, and we will get a war with Armenia. We must somehow smooth out this process, probably.
      1. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
        tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 10 November 2020 17: 43
        +1
        Well, we need to start the withdrawal of the Gyumri base (so, for visibility). Let These get cut a little. Until the "occupants" are called back.
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          1. alexmach
            alexmach 10 November 2020 21: 24
            -1
            Let these proud Caucasians cut each other to their fill

            So in fact they have already given a little. It seems that they have been vaccinated against jingoistic patriotism.
      2. Leeds
        Leeds 10 November 2020 17: 53
        +4
        Quote: oleg123219307
        Quote: mal
        No matter how you have to bring peacekeepers to Armenia ...

        No matter how it is necessary to save the 102nd base, it is no longer necessary to bring peacekeepers to Armenia. I don't like their current internal political tendencies. Common slogans - Pashinyan and Putin sold us to Erdogan and Aliyev, the Russians won, the war to the end. On this wave, many will want to come to power. Nationalists will come to power, shoot the peacekeepers, and we will get a war with Armenia. We must somehow smooth out this process, probably.

        The neighbors have already attacked the peacekeepers. Come tell me what happened in those days for this.
        1. Amba412
          Amba412 10 November 2020 21: 38
          +1
          That's it! Ours will also need a corridor for the passage. And the shortest is through Georgia. Batumi as a transshipment is quite suitable))))) And in Adjara, the Turks bought 90 percent of the land. So they will combine our useful with the pleasant)
      3. maktub
        maktub 10 November 2020 17: 53
        -1
        I also think that this is not the end
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 November 2020 18: 01
        +3
        In this case, Armenia itself will have a cover - since Azerbaijan and Turkey will be at our side to help us in this situation - a big lavash will come out of the Armenians.
      5. New Year day
        New Year day 10 November 2020 18: 07
        -3
        Quote: oleg123219307
        No matter how you have to save 102 bases,

        hi
  • Evil543
    Evil543 10 November 2020 17: 06
    19
    "We cannot agree that our lands were given away for no reason. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end."

    The main thing is that they are shouting not from the trenches, but from the capital.
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 10 November 2020 17: 20
      +9
      Quote: Evil543
      The main thing is that they are shouting not from the trenches, but from the capital.

      It's easier to smash a building than to dig trenches yes
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 10 November 2020 17: 53
        +4
        Especially in the mountains
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 10 November 2020 17: 08
    -4
    Quote: KKND
    It doesn't matter that the defense budget was 5 times less, it is important to find an extreme one.

    what was the budget difference between the DRV and the USA?
    1. KKND
      KKND 10 November 2020 17: 12
      14
      The DRV of the USSR helped, but not at all in small amounts. Just think how many one 1,6 ton 2-stage liquid-propellant rocket for the S-75 stood and were supplied in thousands. You can remember the newest MiG-21. Who helped the Armenians? Again we are, but not in thousands.
    2. fa2998
      fa2998 10 November 2020 17: 33
      +6
      Well, the Soviet Union and China should be added to the FER budget. Still, the aid was not weak hi
    3. Reviews
      Reviews 10 November 2020 17: 48
      +4
      Quote: NEOZ
      Quote: KKND
      It doesn't matter that the defense budget was 5 times less, it is important to find an extreme one.

      what was the budget difference between the DRV and the USA?

      The difference between the USSR and Finland in 1939 is more revealing.
    4. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 10 November 2020 17: 51
      0
      Quote: NEOZ
      what was the budget difference between the DRV and the USA?

      silly logic. It is necessary to compare the budgets of the two Vietnam, between which, in fact, there was a civil war. And sponsors separately.
  • Old tanker
    Old tanker 10 November 2020 17: 19
    +5
    This is just an excuse for the opposition to throw off Pashinyan the little merry. Such a fate would await anyone in his place. That's just why all these protesters are not in defense of Karabakh with weapons in their hands, but in Yerevan? Yes, because they do not care about Karabakh, about the deaths of the boys, the main thing for them is to take power, and the crowd to play around and destroy.
    1. KKND
      KKND 10 November 2020 18: 04
      +2
      Quote: Old Tankman
      Just why are all these protesters not in defense of Karabakh with arms in hand, but in Yerevan?

      Well, after all, dying without a chance of winning is somewhat demoralizing.
      Quote: Old Tankman
      Such a fate would await anyone in his place.

      Yes, as old as the world. In these cases, the "head" flies first.
    2. Lesorub
      Lesorub 10 November 2020 18: 31
      +4
      Quote: Old Tanker
      This is just an excuse for the opposition to throw off Pashinyan the little merry. Such a fate would await anyone in his place. That's just why all these protesters are not in defense of Karabakh with weapons in their hands, but in Yerevan? Yes, because they do not care about Karabakh, about the deaths of the boys, the main thing for them is to take power, and the crowd to play around and destroy.

      Yes, you are right on the video, healthy men - clearly without physical disabilities - but the front is in the NKR, and here you drive Pashinyan - and "big politics".
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 10 November 2020 17: 55
    -1
    "We need to consolidate. An Armenian cannot touch an Armenian." - As it turned out it can.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 10 November 2020 18: 33
      0
      "For more than a month he led everyone by the nose and surrendered Karabakh in one night"

      And this is what the "pro-European-pro-American orientation" is leading to now. It used to be that nishtyaks were poured from the "common Europeans" to those who act against Russia, are guided by the anti-Russian ideology and follow in the wake of the "cabinet 300" of the world government. Now the situation has changed - these gentlemen have abused the covid crisis, and they have no time for some unfortunate idiots who are concerned about getting food from the hands of "common people" in exchange for their "anti-Russian" character. "Anti-Russianness" is now not even in third place, and therefore is not quoted among "common people" - they have created head-to-head problems with both migrants and covid and the global sanctions crisis, a crisis of confidence in world currencies, etc. So that's it. these foolish notes .... and, like Pashinyan, who wanted to play on the "all-Russian world trend", will now, in deep ass, because of their lack of demand in new, changed conditions ... yes
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 10 November 2020 18: 28
    0
    Quote: KKND
    The main thing here is to find a scapegoat

    and you won't need to look for him

    unless he runs away
  • Imobile
    Imobile 10 November 2020 19: 30
    -3
    Quote: KKND
    The main thing here is to find a scapegoat. It doesn't matter that the defense budget was 5 times less, it is important to find an extreme one.

    And nothing that Azerbaijan spent 100 times less on general spending on the army, but on spending involved in hostilities! Tso what are the extremes?
  • Igor Semenov
    Igor Semenov 10 November 2020 23: 21
    +1
    Yes sir. And the farther from the front, the more patriots
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 11 November 2020 05: 44
    0
    Quote: KKND
    The main thing here is to find a scapegoat. It doesn't matter that the defense budget was 5 times less, it is important to find an extreme one.

    There were cases when they were responsible for such a thing. In Greece, after the defeat from the Turks in 1920, the prime minister was shot
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  • cniza
    cniza 10 November 2020 16: 57
    +9
    We cannot agree that our lands were just given away. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end.


    When did you get excited about him, what did you think about? when they said that Russia bothers you ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 November 2020 18: 18
      0
      Quote: cniza
      We cannot agree that our lands were just given away. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end.


      When did you get excited about him, what did you think about?

      Did these people think about ... lace European panties? belay
      1. halpat
        halpat 10 November 2020 18: 43
        +1
        laughing
        her ... too hairy
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 November 2020 20: 14
          +2
          It does not interfere... lol
      2. cniza
        cniza 10 November 2020 20: 14
        +3
        Maybe they had broader fantasies, but the result is the same ...
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 10 November 2020 16: 58
    16
    [b] [/ b] We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end

    At the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory and in the Rostov Region
    1. Teacher67
      Teacher67 10 November 2020 17: 20
      -5
      Yeah, and we "wow, you won't get off with tomatoes," remember the incident?
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 November 2020 17: 22
        -2
        Quote: Teacher67
        you won't get off with tomatoes

        So the Su-24 is not?
        1. Teacher67
          Teacher67 10 November 2020 17: 36
          -5
          Yeah he is. In my opinion, the most adequate reaction to such "mistakes" is Israel and Iran, they always respond to force with force tripled.
      2. Clear
        Clear 10 November 2020 18: 20
        +3
        Quote: Teacher67
        Yeah, and we "wow, you won't get off with tomatoes," remember the incident?

        Well, there was what? In the end, I apologized.
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 10 November 2020 16: 58
    10
    Or maybe it's better this way than losing ALL Karabakh? And at the same time there are many more military personnel and equipment ...

    Several areas. We stopped, and it's good! Time will tell.
    Peace is better than war anyway ...
    1. neocortex
      neocortex 10 November 2020 17: 09
      0
      The psychology of war ... the rationality of the losing side temporarily surrendered
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 10 November 2020 17: 11
      +6
      Quote: RealPilot
      Several districts ... We stopped, and it's good! Time will tell.

      The reality is that the Armenians have lost the whole of Karabakh. It's just a matter of time. Az .. and we will drive there. The Turks are fighting for the corridor from Nakhichevan, through the territory of Armenia. They seem to have been allowed a limited presence by peacekeepers, in the Azerbaijani regions (occupied), from Azerbaijan. Our underbelly.
      hi
      1. MTN
        MTN 10 November 2020 17: 21
        -2
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        They seem to have been allowed a limited presence by peacekeepers in the Azerbaijani regions (occupied), from the side of Azerbaijan.

        One thing I cannot understand, if Pashinyan signed a corridor through Azerbaijan to Nakhichevan, then he is the biggest loser in the history of mankind. They will cut their throats to Iran. This is a complete blockade.
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 10 November 2020 17: 52
          +5
          Quote: MTN
          One thing I cannot understand, if Pashinyan signed a corridor through Azerbaijan to Nakhichevan, then he is the biggest loser in the history of mankind. They will cut their throats to Iran. This is a complete blockade.

          You read the contract:
          9. All economic and transport links in the region are unblocked. The Republic of Armenia guarantees the safety of transport links between the western regions of the Azerbaijan Republic and the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic in order to organize an unimpeded movement of citizens, vehicles and goods in both directions. Control over transport communication is carried out by the bodies of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia.
          By agreement of the Parties, the construction of new transport communications linking the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic with the western regions of Azerbaijan will be provided.

          Azerbaijan was allowed transport links to Nakhichevan through Armenian territory, no one will block the border with Iran. hi
          1. MTN
            MTN 10 November 2020 18: 05
            +1
            Quote: Anatol Klim
            Control over transport communication is carried out by the bodies of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia.

            Excellent! Another thing.
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 10 November 2020 18: 58
            19
            Quote: Anatol Klim
            Control over transport communication is carried out by the bodies of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia.

            5 years, prolongation - if none of the parties notifies about the termination of the contract
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 10 November 2020 18: 25
          +1
          Quote: MTN
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          They seem to have been allowed a limited presence by peacekeepers in the Azerbaijani regions (occupied), from the side of Azerbaijan.

          One thing I cannot understand, if Pashinyan signed a corridor through Azerbaijan to Nakhichevan, then he is the biggest loser in the history of mankind. They will cut their throats to Iran. This is a complete blockade.
          .
          You will see "Victor" tell me that he has a bottle of Azerbaijani cognac. I won. wink Azerbaijan will not enter Stepanakert. Yes, it doesn't need it. You just need to believe in Russia. yes
          1. MTN
            MTN 10 November 2020 19: 41
            -3
            Quote: Observer2014
            Azerbaijan will not enter Stepanakert

            Dear, you have lost in my opinion. Stepanakert is gone. This is Khankendi. There is no Ar-TsA-Ha.
        3. VyacheSeymour
          VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 19: 09
          +1
          One thing I cannot understand, if Pashinyan signed a corridor through Azerbaijan to Nakhichevan, then he is the biggest loser in the history of mankind. They will cut their throats to Iran. It's a complete blockade

          You are wrong. The statement of the presidents clearly states that after the agreement, the necessary infrastructure will be built, and the security of the corridor in Nakhichehan will be ensured by the border service of the FSB of Russia ...
    3. MTN
      MTN 10 November 2020 17: 20
      -6
      Quote: RealPilot
      how to lose ALL Karabakh?

      They lost Karabakh. The Armenian army is leaving Karabakh and 7 regions. Only in Lachin will there be Russian peacekeepers. Or do you think we will leave Shushi? Shusha is the heart of Karabakh and we will not leave from there!
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 10 November 2020 17: 25
        0
        Are you continuing the information war against Russia?
      2. Nychego
        Nychego 10 November 2020 17: 51
        -3
        Quote: MTN
        Or do you think we will leave Shushi?

        You will leave, similar to the way you leave in 92.
        Erdi will continue to create his empire and will definitely run into it - the Turks already have an economy that is somewhat overloaded by Erdogan's imperial ambitions.
        You pushed the Armenians into the arms of Russia, and if Russia survives the time of changes without significant losses of the power of the state, then it has a chance to be on the upward swing when the Turks crumble. Perhaps it will be May 9, 2032, possibly 2042, but a new "wedding in the mountains" will break out.
        hi
      3. Observer2014
        Observer2014 10 November 2020 18: 38
        +5
        Quote: MTN
        Quote: RealPilot
        how to lose ALL Karabakh?

        They lost Karabakh. The Armenian army is leaving Karabakh and 7 regions. Only in Lachin will there be Russian peacekeepers. Or do you think we will leave Shushi? Shusha is the heart of Karabakh and we will not leave from there!

        And no one from Shusha is driving you away. This is your hi So beautifully in one move, Russia put everything in its place. Armenians are shocked laughing But no one will touch the Armenians further. Armenia to Armenians. But the autonomous republic of Karabakh after negotiations with Azerbaijan. Look more. It will easily enter the Russian Federation. Remember my comment two weeks ago. About my settlement plan. Was it funny? Didn't sound likely. How's it going now? I am ready to argue with you that it will be so. OUR KARABAKH! And everyone will be happy, and no one will fight there for a very long time. hi
        1. MTN
          MTN 10 November 2020 19: 45
          -3
          Quote: Observer2014
          I am ready to argue with you that it will be so. OUR KARABAKH!

          hi Ready for a bet. Can you announce the date when Karabakh will become part of Russia? I accept the bet. smile
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 10 November 2020 22: 19
            0
            Quote: MTN
            Quote: Observer2014
            I am ready to argue with you that it will be so. OUR KARABAKH!

            hi Ready for a bet. Can you announce the date when Karabakh will become part of Russia? I accept the bet. smile

            You already want to hear the date. laughing Can we get by with my bet condition? No. Oh well. In the next five years yes drinks Sanya, yes it is.
            1. MTN
              MTN 10 November 2020 22: 36
              -1
              Quote: Observer2014
              You already want to hear the date. Can we get by with my bet condition? No. Oh well. In the next five years Sanya, yes it is.

              Accepted. But can you show me at least one word in the new treaty on the status of Karabakh?) Good luck in your search hi

              We won't give Karabakh to anyone else drinks
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 10 November 2020 22: 42
                0
                No one. Enough they played enough. Zero sense. One blood. Enough. People live there too. With age-old complexes, but Gordeev's knot, it's time to cut it. yes
              2. Liam
                Liam 10 November 2020 23: 05
                -2
                Quote: MTN
                We won't give Karabakh to anyone else

                Maybe at last the site will be a little cleared of Azeri-Armenian bots and their round-the-clock bacchanalia here for a month already.
                PySy.Re-read one post addressed to you about a month ago.

                Liam
                18 October 2020 01: 05
                +2
                Armenia and Azerbaijan agree on ceasefire and humanitarian truce
                Listen. There are screams of Armenian and Azerbaijani propagandists on the site, such as you. And there is a reality. And it is such that this war will last as long as Russia and Turkey want. As soon as the Turks get what they need from Russia in Syria and Libya, all victories will end and the drones will return to Turkey. Videos from the UAVs look spectacular on TV but the drones do not conquer cities, they are taken by the infantry and many thousands of their own soldiers killed and by months and years of bloodshed. Azerbaijan is a rather poor country and cannot afford it for a long time. War is still and very expensive economically. Nobody will give you to take Karabakh. This eternal source of problems is needed both by the Russian Federation and Turkey to keep both you and the Armenians in check and play their games on your blood
                .
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2020 18: 03
      0
      Armenia, according to these agreements, loses one fig and it goes to Azerbaijan.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 November 2020 17: 01
    +6
    Such a local micromoisey is actually Pashinyan! For 44 days he drove all of Armenia by the nose, there are no other sources of information for Armenians in nature! wassat An Armenian won't touch an Armenian - why won't he? In Rostov-on-Don, I was repeatedly convinced of the opposite - they "touched" each other with their hands, feet, chains, bricks. .. Or, in Russia, the Armenians do not know that they should not touch their own kind? ?? lol
    1. Amba412
      Amba412 10 November 2020 17: 46
      +3
      And they really thought that Russian boys would die for them. There are only one and a half million of them in Yerevan, each person counts for promoting the Armenian diaspora around the world.
  • Rumblings
    Rumblings 10 November 2020 17: 03
    -1
    Nikolka Trufonyan is the main enemy of all Armenians.
    From love to hate ...
    And that it is clear that all the Armenian dogs will be hanged on Pashinyan, although it must be admitted that he did a good job. It can be seen from him the level of a journalist of a low-demand Solovyov, not ours, even in Russian he did not learn to speak normally, a wild Armenian accent, like a barbecue from the market.
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 10 November 2020 17: 04
    +7
    and a rifle to the front, no?
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 November 2020 17: 06
      +4
      Quote: NEOZ
      and a rifle to the front, no?


      Yeah. And a rifle for you, and send you into battle ?! And here you are whipping vodka with me.
      Wrong guys. Selling something or someone is easy
    2. Evil543
      Evil543 10 November 2020 17: 08
      +2
      So they can kill there
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 10 November 2020 17: 14
      +1
      NEOZ-NOT! !! To shout for the sake of form, to show "the unity of the nation", but only to show, and you can go into battle only in a shopping arcade, in a car dealership with a client, in the same place bombs and missiles do not explode! !!
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2020 18: 05
      -1
      Yes, they will shoot themselves with this rifle accidentally before reaching the positions.
  • Rumblings
    Rumblings 10 November 2020 17: 08
    -3
    We need to consolidate. An Armenian cannot touch an Armenian. We take revenge on the Turks.

    And where are the Turks? If they got it dry from the Azerbaijanis.
    Again, there are Armenian tales about the fact that Abydels were zanocidal.
  • Tsoy
    Tsoy 10 November 2020 17: 10
    +5
    If not for the peacekeepers, Armenia would have lost all of Karabakh. It is a stone's throw from Shushi to Stepanakert. So there really was no choice, and it’s better than a complete rout.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 10 November 2020 17: 14
      +7
      Another question is how will our guys be there?
      And then how in the past turmoil from all sides gifts will begin to pour in.
      An example of a helicopter is indicative.

      Already two strings have been cut.
      1. Amba412
        Amba412 10 November 2020 17: 49
        0
        In the past turmoil, we poured them. Both were enough for 26 years.
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 10 November 2020 19: 23
          +1
          The price was also considerable.
          And what is the positive result for Russia?
          To make up for at least one lost life?
  • Zuiss
    Zuiss 10 November 2020 17: 12
    -1
    Themselves to blame
  • parusnik
    parusnik 10 November 2020 17: 12
    +7
    The most cunning of the Armenians is Pashinyan, one Armenian has circled the entire Armenian population in Karabakh and Armenia laughing
  • Ulrih
    Ulrih 10 November 2020 17: 13
    +7
    Well, a week ago, Pashinyan promised a powerful counter-offensive, all the Armenian officers. Resources kept repeating about stubborn battles, the destruction of the groups that had broken through, etc. The same Pegov even today made a video about Sushi for some reason (there must have been a myth about "stabbing in the back" in the Weimar Republic as well), so even a neutral viewer thought that the war was going on, though not in favor of the Armenians at the moment but stubborn. But it turned out that such a disaster. So the indignation and shouts of "They lied to us" are understandable. Even all the official social networks of Armenians have been silent since yesterday, only one message from Shushan that hostilities were stopped and Russian troops were arriving.
    So the Armenians can be understood, they were not watching the Azeri news. Moreover, those were not always objective either.
    1. MTN
      MTN 10 November 2020 17: 24
      -1
      Quote: Ulrih
      So the Armenians can be understood, they were not watching the Azeri news. Moreover, those were not always objective either.

      Yes, they knew perfectly well what was the matter. On Azerbaijani sites 40% of visitors are Armenians. Look at Facebook News of Azerbaijan and 1news.az where there is news about Karabakh, there are a lot of Armenians. And even look among those who like. When we wrote about the victory, they put a sign they were angry) So they saw the video and read the articles.

      Too late to drink Borjomi ..................
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    2. nobody75
      nobody75 10 November 2020 17: 34
      0
      But it turned out that such a disaster

      Yes, there was no catastrophe there - a catastrophe in 2018 happened when Pashinyan came to power.
      I have already written that there are no political forces in Armenia that would be interested in Karabakh. Moreover, today there are no serious pro - Russian forces in Armenia. All who could have moved to Russia.
      Russian troops are needed there ... for "military historical" purposes.
      Sincerely
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 November 2020 18: 07
        -2
        Judging by the number of destroyed Armenian equipment in Karabakh, there was still that defeat there.
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 19: 13
          0
          The wonders of video editing know no bounds. Have you come over us, Russians, to mock? Because of the helicopter ... Nothing ... Revenge is a dish served cold
        2. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 19: 21
          +1
          According to the head of state, as a result of the crash of the Russian Mi-24, the crew commander, Major Yuri Ishuk and Senior Lieutenant Roman Fedin were killed.

          Now you know the names of those helicopter pilots, over whose death you - Azerbots - mocked yesterday.
    3. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 10 November 2020 17: 43
      +2
      "We were lied to"
      And if you were not "lied to"? what would change? ..
      Would all the Armenians board trains and planes and go "together" to fight for a small but proud Armenia?
      1. Ulrih
        Ulrih 10 November 2020 18: 01
        +2
        Perhaps they plunged, perhaps earlier the peace was concluded on better terms, perhaps something else ..... how can I know now?
  • Turanov
    Turanov 10 November 2020 17: 17
    +2
    Pashinyan is probably already in Turkey receiving the Order of Judas and laughing ... That's how the Armenians teach you a lesson on how to betray Russia! You still got off easy, you wouldn't be surprised if Yerevan was under siege.
    The Azerbaijanis taught you a good lesson for your pride and show-off ...
    And Aliyev kept his word (I respect), although this operation cost a lot ... And for the downed Russian helicopter there was a serious sediment ... No matter how it all continues
    1. Amba412
      Amba412 10 November 2020 17: 55
      +2
      I support the previous speaker) only with the turntable everything looks very rotten. Instead of squatting on what the Azeri did in 12 hours, they sign the surrender of Armenia.
    2. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 10 November 2020 19: 03
      +4
      09.11.2020
      Quote: Turanov

      Hold on Armenia Russia with you ..


      10.11.2020
      Quote: Turanov

      The Azerbaijanis taught you a good lesson for your pride and show-off ...
      And Aliyev kept his word (I respect), although this operation cost a lot


      Well you give Meehan. Only Maz is changing his shoes faster than you in flight.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 10 November 2020 17: 21
    -1
    Well, it was necessary to prepare for the war. Whoever wanted to prepare, bought equipment from us. Who did not, "puffed out their cheeks."
    And now, as our old friends used to say, "it's too late to sprinkle ashes on your head if the fortress is on fire."
  • monster
    monster 10 November 2020 17: 27
    0
    Ganny and zrada! Zrada and ganba! She, all the same, in the chirping language of wild umbras (svidomity) has its own charm.)))
  • Babermetis
    Babermetis 10 November 2020 17: 27
    0
    The Karabakh Shushira, like the elite of all Armenians, is a start. Let's see how Pashinyan will determine their place.
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 19: 28
      +2
      The Karabakh Shushira, like the elite of all Armenians, is a start. Let's see how Pashinyan will determine their place.

      The elite of all Armenians, I note, is very angry, loyal to everyone, humiliated now returning from the front!
      And, one more elite is about to start returning in zinc coffins ... - I can't even imagine the reaction of relatives and friends to senselessly ruined lives!
      I want to be wrong, but times are coming in Armenia, against the background of which the dashing 90s will seem like paradise on earth ...
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 10 November 2020 17: 32
    0
    I drew attention to the fact that all these protesters are already of such a serious, mature age, but for Pashinyan at one time the Maidan was mainly young people, and now they are somehow not visible, which means that Nikol the Sorosenok suits them even after such a national shame ...
    1. Olddetractor
      Olddetractor 10 November 2020 17: 50
      +3
      People of a serious age are demonstrators on the streets of the capital, not in the trenches. And the youth would go to fight, which this very Pashinyan deprived them of. Here the young m keep quiet
  • fa2998
    fa2998 10 November 2020 17: 36
    0
    Excuse me, who knows - in the photo in the article in the photo behind the Turkish Prime Minister Ararat? what hi
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 November 2020 17: 38
    0
    Dear Armenians, next time, when you choose the leadership of the country, think - with your head and not with the place where you sit.
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 10 November 2020 17: 42
    +1
    Let's see if the Armenians can draw the right conclusions and withstand the blow? Will they stay in Karabakh? Will they be able to deal with corruption or rather give it a “human face?” Will the Azeri “Karabakh Bizimdir” set a goal, as in their time, and will they go towards it for many years?
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 10 November 2020 19: 16
      0
      And who needs this Karabakh?
      Sincerely
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 10 November 2020 22: 39
        +1
        Quote: nobody75
        And who needs this Karabakh?
        Sincerely

        Apparently to those who fought for him hi
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 06
          -1
          It will not be enough ...
          Sincerely
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 10 November 2020 23: 10
            0
            Quote: nobody75
            It will not be enough ...
            Sincerely

            Little or too much does not matter. Their goals matter. The Jews were also not enough, but they created and defended their own state: hi
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 12
              0
              State ... Jews ... Holy Karabakh ...
              Soviet Armenia lived for itself and did not know that it was necessary to defend Karabakh ...
              Sincerely
              1. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 10 November 2020 23: 18
                +1
                Quote: nobody75
                State ... Jews ... Holy Karabakh ...
                Soviet Armenia lived for itself and did not know that it was necessary to defend Karabakh ...
                Sincerely

                You shouldn't have been like that, in the same Soviet Armenia, these thoughts always soared or do you think the gin got into the Armenians at once and they started urinating with Azeri? The Armenians also have dreams of the Georgian Javakheti, they did not arise today. It's just that the Armenians did not think that the time had come ... I'm not saying that this is fair, I say that such thoughts are hovering in this society ...
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 21
                  0
                  Forgive me, but in fact they did not hover in Armenia itself. The children of the "Karabakh people" went to Armenia to study. They stayed there to work and at the end of the USSR created the "Kathulda Defense Society".
                  Sincerely
                  1. Pavlos Melas
                    Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 00: 03
                    0
                    Quote: nobody75
                    Forgive me, but in fact they did not hover in Armenia itself. The children of the "Karabakh people" went to Armenia to study. They stayed there to work and at the end of the USSR created the "Kathulda Defense Society".
                    Sincerely

                    I will not undertake to discuss with you the topic of when the Armenians had ideas about the annexation of Karabakh and the legality of these claims. One thing I see is that the Armenians had these ideas at some point. My first post was a question, what will the Armenians do now. I have a vision of two options either to admit defeat and forget about Karabakh, or to hide and prepare for revenge. I think there will be followers of each of these options. Also, each of these options has pros and cons. hi
                    1. nobody75
                      nobody75 11 November 2020 00: 04
                      0
                      So you believe in the viability of the Karabakh Franchise?
                      Best regards
                      1. Pavlos Melas
                        Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 00: 14
                        0
                        Quote: nobody75
                        So you believe in the viability of the Karabakh Franchise?
                        Best regards

                        Let us still call a spade a spade, the Armenians did not strive to build another Armenian state. The "Republic of Karabakh" existed only because at this stage Armenia could not annex it. The Armenians themselves did not see its existence outside Armenia. When I talk about the actions of the Armenians, I mean both the Armenian and the Karabakh. I wonder what's next and how this nation will respond to this development of events. Of course, there may be a big war and so on and so on, but I ask myself the question as it is, what will they do?
                      2. nobody75
                        nobody75 11 November 2020 00: 19
                        -1
                        Now nothing. They will wait. The cowardice will end and the big players will deal with Turkey ... Previously, she was a "sick man of Europe", but now it is generally "half dead". Then the Armenians will try to take revenge.
                        Sincerely
                      3. Pavlos Melas
                        Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 00: 23
                        0
                        Quote: nobody75
                        Now nothing. They will wait. The cowardice will end and the big players will deal with Turkey ... Previously, she was a "sick man of Europe", but now it is generally "half dead". Then the Armenians will try to take revenge.
                        Sincerely

                        Yes, I also thought about it, it's just another question whether Azerbaijan will fit into this war or not. One on one without the support of Turkey, I think the Azeris still have to endure. Of course, if the Armenians do not have an overwhelming advantage in technology, both in quality and quantity.
                      4. nobody75
                        nobody75 11 November 2020 00: 32
                        -1
                        Under the pretext of a peacekeeping mission, the Turks are bringing troops into Azerbaijan. Aliyev threw them and Erdogan will not forgive him for this. So the situation gets interesting. I figured out above one Turk - with the nickname "fiery cat" - read how he spits in a fit of rage. The helicopter was shot down by the Turks in order to disrupt the truce and demand from Aliyev what he had promised ... Now Aliyev is between two fires - on the one hand, the Turks and the pro-Turkish party, on the other, local nationalists. And everyone is not happy ... And when the scale of the losses becomes clear, Aliyev and the support of the "centrists" will lose. So the fun in Azerbaijan is just beginning ...
                        Sincerely
                      5. Pavlos Melas
                        Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 00: 40
                        0
                        If everything develops according to your scenario, it will not be very calm. I'm interested in what will happen to Turkey and Erdogan. Lira sank if Aliyev leaves the influence, then the undersultan will not be able to go to the West.
                      6. nobody75
                        nobody75 11 November 2020 01: 05
                        0
                        Gulen was hiding in the States ... The Turks recently sought to extradite him ... But it didn't work out. I think the Americans keep it as a fallback. MBS has not forgotten the "Khashogi affair", and he has enough resources to bring down Erdogan. Putin replaced the head of Dagestan, Vasilyev, with the military general Melikov, and he is, according to the first VUS, a scout ... In Azerbaijan, the Turks will have a hard time. In fact, they are in a ring.
                        Putin badly pinned Erdogan in Syria, bombed pro-Turkish proxies in Idlib and burned down Erdogan's family's oil business. Without stolen Syrian oil and a share in the Baku oil industry, Turkey's economy is over. For the fall in the lira exchange rate, Erdogan fired his own relative, the head of the Central Bank. After the fall of the lira exchange rate, Turkey will face WTO proceedings and protective duties on Turkish goods in Europe. If you recall history, the collapse of the Ottoman Empire began with the "Price Revolution" in the XNUMXth century. It was then that the sipahs began to "mow" from military service in droves. I think History develops in a spiral. Following the economic crisis, a military coup is possible under the slogan of a return to the precepts of Ataturk, or a series of border conflicts that will eventually wind up the Turkish army scattered from Libya to Azerbaijan. And the Turks will not forgive Erdogan for a series of military defeats.
                        Sincerely
                      7. Pavlos Melas
                        Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 01: 31
                        0
                        Yes Biden is not Donald's friend. Plus, in Syria, nothing has ended with the Kurds.
  • VyacheSeymour
    VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 19: 44
    +1
    Let's see if the Armenians can draw the right conclusions and withstand the blow? Will they stay in Karabakh?

    Of course, they will stay and will live (especially those who have no place to go and don’t want to give up their wealth), at least in the coming years they will live better than in the coming Armenia ... “Baku will not offend with subsidies and investments.
    It was not for nothing that Aliyev did not take the initially (before the conflict) Armenian-populated regions of Karabakh: - in order not to be accused of changing demographics ... Plus, it is in these regions that Russian peacekeepers will be deployed with the center in Stepanokert.
    By the way, in the Azerbaijani official, Stepanokert was no longer called by the original name - Khankendi.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 10 November 2020 22: 48
      -1
      Maybe, maybe ... Although ... I think when the borders are opened, refugees from Karabakh will rush to Europe. For example, in Germany it will be difficult for a refugee from Karabakh to be denied asylum ... For me, this conflict was a box of sand. I was interested in the course of hostilities and my own thoughts on this matter. Now, when our peacekeepers are there, it will be easier to reconstruct the course of battles of the extreme war of the Karabakh Franchise on the maps.
      From a political point of view, I agree with Nietzsche: "Help yourself and everyone will help you." I think that the political split in the Armenian society began from the moment when after the previous war the "Karabakh people" triumphantly entered Yerevan.
      Sincerely
      1. VyacheSeymour
        VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 23: 12
        0
        I think when the borders are opened, refugees from Karabakh will rush to Europe. For example, in Germany, it will be difficult for a refugee from Karabakh to refuse asylum ..

        Let me disagree with you!
        Can people with Armenian passports shield themselves as refugees from Azerbaijan ??? And, by and large, Europe is so full of Armenians looking for political asylum under different sauces ... - well, another trend will be added! Indeed, according to all laws, they are more likely violators of the provisions on legal stay in the country, -DEPORTED suits them more accurately. But who managed to keep the red passports of citizens of Soviet Azerbaijan - refugees out of competition ... - But who and where will they let them in?
        So the Armenians fell into a trap, carefully made with their own hands: - there seem to be refugees, but they are not.
        A citizen of Armenia - but a refugee from Azerbaijan !!!! ... what a fool today can be bred to such a fish ?????
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 14
          0
          France, Germany have judicial precedents.
          Sincerely
          1. VyacheSeymour
            VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 23: 17
            0
            Perhaps, but more than three thousand of them have already entered Abkhazia ...
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 18
              -1
              So stateless ...
              Sincerely
              1. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 23: 23
                0
                Well, knowing the Armenians, I dare to suggest that they have already changed their shoes in Europe and are looking for refuge as refugees from the war ... Although the Karabakh people have not yet reached there.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 10 November 2020 23: 25
                  -1
                  I think that Stepanakert will turn into another Osgiliat ...
                  Sincerely
                  1. VyacheSeymour
                    VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 23: 32
                    0
                    I think if everything settles down (there will be no diaspora-sorosy muddy) -will ... Too long lived side by side, too similar mentally two peoples ...- Georgians in comparison with them aside.
                    1. nobody75
                      nobody75 11 November 2020 00: 01
                      0
                      I don't think so ... It's not about the Azerbaijanis. What should he do in Karabakh?
                      Sincerely
                    2. VyacheSeymour
                      VyacheSeymour 11 November 2020 00: 11
                      0
                      To continue to live ... to restore the ruined. Grief unites - time heals, - centuries of war are over, forgotten. Maybe the republics will come together, - will have dual citizenship ... Isn't there a way out?
                      Where do they have to start, - and peacekeepers guarantee at least 5 years of quiet life. Yes, and Aliyev is not stupid, so as not to step on the Soviet rake.
                    3. nobody75
                      nobody75 11 November 2020 00: 13
                      0
                      "Many days have passed since then. But people have not become smarter."
                      Sincerely
                    4. VyacheSeymour
                      VyacheSeymour 11 November 2020 00: 20
                      0
                      The time comes and the chain of regular, alternating events is interrupted ... - maybe this is the case ...
                    5. Pavlos Melas
                      Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 00: 25
                      0
                      Quote: nobody75
                      "Many days have passed since then. But people have not become smarter."
                      Sincerely

                      Alas, in history there are many examples of the lack of intelligence of our species. hi
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 00: 28
    -1
    Of course, they will stay and will live (especially those who have no place to go and don’t want to give up their wealth), at least in the coming years they will live better than in the coming Armenia ... “Baku will not offend with subsidies and investments.
    The key words here are while there are peacekeepers, and then the pretenders were expelled like peacemen. The elder brother of Azeri is extremely skilled in such events.
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 11 November 2020 05: 49
      0
      The elder brother of Azeri is extremely skilled in such events.

      Come on ... - It's not Azeri so skillfully, under
      zero, mononationalized entire countries and regions ... So, be, if not honest, then at least not biased.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 11 November 2020 08: 50
        0
        Quote: VyacheSeymour
        The elder brother of Azeri is extremely skilled in such events.

        Come on ... - It's not Azeri so skillfully, under
        zero, mononationalized entire countries and regions ... So, be, if not honest, then at least not biased.

        Where did I lie? I'm not biased just talking about what could be. If the Azeris do not expel the Armenians and do not spread rot, then it will be possible to say that the Azeris are related to the Turks, but the people with a different culture hi
  • fa2998
    fa2998 10 November 2020 17: 43
    0
    Quote: hrych
    Congratulations, Karabakh .... is ours.

    Russia has finally found what to do with the extra money. In addition to Syria. And we will collect SMS for children for treatment. Hurray! request belay
    1. Turanov
      Turanov 10 November 2020 18: 23
      0
      Quote: fa2998
      Quote: hrych
      Congratulations, Karabakh .... is ours.

      Russia has finally found what to do with the extra money. In addition to Syria. And we will collect SMS for children for treatment. Hurray! request belay

      Do you dream of collecting money for the funeral of our soldiers in hot spots on the borders of Russia or inside from terrorist attacks? negative Go to France or Austria, it starts there soon
  • vavilon
    vavilon 10 November 2020 17: 45
    +2
    Not a single "maydanutaya" power has led to the prosperity of their country, but only to poverty and fratricidal wars.
    1. Feliks m
      Feliks m 10 November 2020 18: 07
      0
      Armenians got it, remember Putin at the meeting with Pashenyan his mine, he endured, both hated this meeting. The weak without the support of the strong always in the world receives, or rather loses territories, political image, money in the end. Get shame and humiliation.
      1. Turanov
        Turanov 10 November 2020 18: 35
        -1
        Quote: Feliks m
        Armenians got it, remember Putin at the meeting with Pashenyan his mine, he endured, both hated this meeting. The weak without the support of the strong always in the world receives, or rather loses territories, political image, money in the end. Get shame and humiliation.

        They spoke correctly .. Next time, let the Armenians think about whom to elect to power. hi
        We will polish them back in Russia, we owe them a lot.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 10 November 2020 17: 53
    0
    "We cannot agree that our lands were given away for no reason. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end." Damn, fight until the last Armenian - the earth rest in peace to you.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 10 November 2020 19: 17
      0
      I knew that you are a fascist ...
  • uhu189
    uhu189 10 November 2020 17: 58
    0
    I don’t understand one thing - here in the comments Pashinyan is accused of everything, as if he is the only reason for all the troubles. Armenia lost due to the fact that Turkey openly supported Azerbaijan, and in fact participated in the conflict without hiding anything. And we - we just watched all this, telling each other about Pashinyan the little magpie. As a result, Pashinyan the little magpie will be thrown out, but the armed forces of our ally suffered a severe defeat, our weapons are largely discredited, Turkey has strengthened its weight in the region, and what did we get? Maximum - they tied Armenia to themselves. But they tied them not of their own free will, but out of need. Because every inhabitant of Armenia will keep in mind that they lost not because they did not prepare or poorly control the troops, but because Russia did not help them. That this is the victory of the Russian Federation as an arbiter? For me, no, this is a defeat. And the shot down helicopter is the cherry on top.
    1. Ulrih
      Ulrih 10 November 2020 18: 07
      +4
      Exactly. But right there, the main thing is to shout about Pashinyan the little magpie (interestingly, a person will soon leave for another world, who will then be blamed?). And then they are surprised that the former Soviet republics are better further from such an ally, with whom one can be in an alliance only by compulsion ...
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 10 November 2020 18: 20
      +1
      uhu189- what is our weapon discredited? The facts speak to the contrary - in this war the Azerbaijanis fought with our weapons, and it turns out that they fought correctly, since they actually won! And regarding Pashinyan, his anti-Russian policy became the reason for the defeat of Karabakh, because instead of preparing for war, he led, instead of developing relations with Russia, he actually turned his back on us, and he turned the Armenians against Russia by banning the Russian language and the Russian media. ...
      1. MTN
        MTN 10 November 2020 18: 35
        +1
        Quote: Thrifty
        Facts show the opposite - in this war the Azerbaijanis fought with our weapons

        This mantra was created in order to calm the souls of the shamefully lost Armenians.

        Quote: Thrifty
        And about Pashinyan, his anti-Russian policy was the reason for the defeat of Karabakh

        This is exactly what it is, only to be honest, it was not Pashinyan who started everything, but Serzh Sargsyan for which he received a blow in the head back in April 2016.

        Quote: Thrifty
        instead of developing relations with Russia, he actually turned his back on us, and he turned Armenians against Russia

        Do you think Pashinyan did it? They thought that Russia would always save them. What nasty things can be done against Russia. They also wanted to eat Western fish and not sit on Azerbaijani .................. It doesn't work that way. Either one or the other.
    3. hydroy
      hydroy 10 November 2020 18: 24
      -2
      wait, wait, the Armenians will leave for 7 days, while they write about the truce, they really want revenge, but there is no point, Russia didn’t stick for the helicopter, it was a good reason to start a mess, but the act was not agreed upon in a few hours, so everything is clear here , the Turks said "hello" that we were able to put the pressure on the two countries on negotiations and on only Russian peacekeepers with Turkish observers. So we saved "Artsakh" from defeat !! Many Armenians were thrown in Karabakh, Pashinyan sent old stuff, or the Armenians in Karabakh themselves uncovered the T-72 without reactive armor and most likely rusty without modernization. And it's funny to talk about air defense, only by the end of the war the Armenians began to tighten up their normal means of protection: Buk 2MKM and Igly, but what were they waiting for? hoped for the decommissioned Jordan Wasps, silly! Armenia showed nothing and helped Karabakh, except with missile strikes on Ganja !!! and those volunteers who beat up on the order to wait for the dispatch to Karabakh! That is, the Armenians merged Karabakh, but they shout at the Russians! It's a shame, but at the same time you can understand them, without a clear word that Russia will protect Armenia, the Armenians did not dare to fight for a long time and to win! We have not failed the policy, we are just getting a new meat grinder, the war is not over yet, all the more there will be 100% partisanship! Our dead soldiers and civilians! And the Turks will leave the barmaley, well, they will not be taken back to Syria! So this is just the beginning of the difficult Caucasian campaign!
      1. MTN
        MTN 10 November 2020 22: 38
        -2
        Quote: hydroy
        7 days will leave while they write about the truce, they really want revenge

        It's not gonna go. The Russian side took control of this. hi Perhaps provocations in Europe and the United States, maybe in Russia, although I'm not sure. The FSB quickly pacifies such people. And who will they go with? As recent history has shown, they will get it in the head, then there will be no corridor.
    4. vitvit123
      vitvit123 10 November 2020 18: 35
      0
      And of their own free will, they never became attached, always on pain of death. And what of it ? And why should we please them? They were the first to wipe their feet on Russia and they got it very well! Let them keep in mind who was the first to destroy the relationship .. no need to distort the true course of things. And the role of the arbiter is the most powerful role! The arbiter can issue a penalty to any player, everyone respects his decision. You don't need to pull the owl on the globe. It wasn't enough for the Russians to fight for the show-off of Armenians ...
    5. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 10 November 2020 20: 08
      0
      I do not understand one thing - here in the comments Pashinyan is accused of everything, as if he is the only reason for all the troubles. Armenia lost due to the fact that Turkey openly supported Azerbaijan, and in fact participated in the conflict without hiding anything.


      In the opinion of Dashnaktsutyun, expressed in the mid-90s: - "In the 86th in Vienna, we made a wrong decision to implement miatsum in Karabakh, and not in Javakh ... - relying on Christian solidarity in the fight against Muslim Azerbaijan."
      So, the troubles of the Armenians began much earlier: - when, under a strip of troubles of those years, they tried to squeeze the lands of their neighbors.
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 10 November 2020 18: 04
    +1
    "On the night of November 9-10, 2020, the most shameful page in the history of Armenia was written."
    Poorly learned to read the book of history, your most shameful page was written when the crowd brought Pashinyan to power through the color revolution!
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 10 November 2020 18: 07
    -1
    Well, IP Pashynyan - a taxi driver or to the market?
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 10 November 2020 18: 10
    0
    "We cannot agree that our lands were given away for no reason. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end."
    What kind of platform is the rooster crowing?
    You clown from the trench say so!
    And that something for forty days of war, he still hangs around in Yerevan, does not bother anyone?
    Fucking warrior, if the Russians hadn't entered, then Stepanakert had already surrendered.
  • Lesorub
    Lesorub 10 November 2020 18: 11
    +1
    On the streets of Yerevan, protesters say that for more than a month Prime Minister Pashinyan "led the people by the nose, and then surrendered Karabakh in one night."

    Pashinyan is a protege of the striped ones - a scenario of inciting a conflict was played out, with which the prime minister of Armenia successfully coped (it did not work just to drag Russia into this meat grinder).
  • Amba412
    Amba412 10 November 2020 18: 12
    +2
    I already wrote about this. Well Pashinyan. But he did not appoint company commanders, battalions, and battery commanders in the Karabakh army. Was there any hope for our Airborne Forces? And where were they? Donbass at 14 survived only after the normal battalions at the helm stood up. I am not belittling the exploits of the lone heroes. But if people had not appeared with erased officer documents, then Donbass would have been
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 November 2020 18: 14
    +1
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said that as a result of the nighttime pogrom, a computer, watch and perfumery were stolen from his residence. The moped is not mine, I heard it on TV, I swear by my mother, wah!

    This is so that they do not kick hard when they are caught. laughing
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 10 November 2020 18: 16
    +1
    We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end.

    We didn't finish plowing, said the ant, getting off the ox.
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 10 November 2020 18: 17
    -3
    Sumptuously! Turkey climbed into Armenia and Azerbaijan. The Sultan did everything. Maybe someone forgot? Turkey is a NATO member. That is why such wild joy is now in England, the USA, and Europe.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 November 2020 18: 17
    +1
    Quote: uhu189
    I don’t understand one thing - here in the comments Pashinyan is accused of everything, as if he is the only reason for all the troubles. Armenia lost due to the fact that Turkey openly supported Azerbaijan, and in fact participated in the conflict without hiding anything. And we - we just watched all this, telling each other about Pashinyan the little magpie. As a result, Pashinyan the little magpie will be thrown out, but the armed forces of our ally suffered a severe defeat, our weapons are largely discredited, Turkey has strengthened its weight in the region, and what did we get? Maximum - they tied Armenia to themselves. But they tied them not of their own free will, but out of need. Because every inhabitant of Armenia will keep in mind that they lost not because they did not prepare or poorly control the troops, but because Russia did not help them. That this is the victory of the Russian Federation as an arbiter? For me, no, this is a defeat. And the shot down helicopter is the cherry on top.

    who over a glass of tea to talk mono?

     When Pashinyan came to power, all the familiar Armenians unanimously repeated that the anti-people regime had finally fallen !!! And now that everything will be for the common people and in abundance ... Yeah, I'm not lying, not the letters. Something like this. laughing Leave us alone. We ourselves, ourselves, without you ... "- so they said, living in Russia.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 10 November 2020 18: 18
    +1
    They themselves, all by themselves and .... this is not the end of the story !!!
  • Egor53
    Egor53 10 November 2020 18: 18
    -5
    And what did you want, you Armenian creatures?
    For years, Americans have been licking their dicks, keeping about 2000 American diplomats in Yerevan, running all over Armenia with slogans for the Russians to go out, closing Russian schools, and expelling Russians from Armenia.
    And then, when your backs were kicked in Karabakh, to be offended that Russia did not protect you?
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 November 2020 18: 23
    0
    As in "Gentlemen of Fortune", I didn’t like his face at once, it was he who stole the victory, I don’t see a century of will.
  • Volga073
    Volga073 10 November 2020 18: 23
    0
    Pashinyan in a parachute!
  • Egor53
    Egor53 10 November 2020 18: 23
    -1
    Those Armenians who fit into Russian culture, they are all Russified to the level of not knowing the Armenian language, and speaking Russian without an accent. As a rule, such people are in mixed marriages with Russians. These people are part of the Russian world.
    And those who live in Armenia - they are to us, Russians, as close as the Kirghiz and Turkmens. They are not part of the Russian world. They are alien to us and to our culture.
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 10 November 2020 18: 24
    +2
    We cannot agree that our lands were just given away. We will not surrender, but we will fight to the end.

    But only at rallies in Yerevan. smile
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 November 2020 18: 25
    +2
    And in general in the East only the strong are respected. The one who pleases everyone, at first they smile, then they take everything away, then they beat him. laughing
  • Maxwrx
    Maxwrx 10 November 2020 18: 28
    +1
    I estimate that in 5-6 years the Azerbaijanis will again climb and seize it to the end when we leave. Now they will create infrastructure, purchase weapons, analyze the experience of the database, and train. Judging by the territory that the Azeri gets. the war will be even more fleeting. https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/11/2020/5faa93c99a7947733377a159?from=from_main_1
    Aliyev is pleased that he received almost everything except Karabakh itself, there is no need to lose soldiers (the losses are still large), there is no need to fight in the winter, and both military and financial resources have been depleted. And winter is ahead.
    Putin is pleased that there are disputed territories (he likes to leave leverage) and like he sorted everything out.
    Pashinyan somehow saved the Karabakh itself, thousands of lives and military equipment. Maybe next time they will fight better?
  • Konnick
    Konnick 10 November 2020 18: 34
    +3
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The surrender of Armenia sincerely upset many ...

    Too many, some by faith, such as Christians, support the Armenians, some are against the Muslims, some are against the Turks. On the contrary, I am glad for the Azerbaijanis, they have returned theirs. I despise separation by religion, and Azerbaijan is a more secular state than Armenia and more international, tolerant of other nationalities and religions. Armenia, on the other hand, has recently slipped into rude nationalism, one phrase from this article
    "...An Armenian cannot touch an Armenian. We take revenge on the Turks."
    Their blood eclipsed the mind, they already erected a monument to a real fascist in 2016, who slaughtered not only Turks, but also Jews, Poles, Ukrainians and Russians and idolized Hitler.
    And I'm not sure that the crowd of Armenians in Yerevan will not be able to force the deputies to deratify the treaty. They, clouded by propagandists Shushan Stepanyan and Semyon Pegov about the heroic extermination of the Azerbaijani army, were a little, to put it mildly, dumbfounded by the news of surrender. They crave revenge. You should have heard their praise at the start of hostilities. So it's not over yet. And do not be upset about this, they deserve defeat. The only trouble is that they will again accuse us of Russians, that we sold weapons to Azerbaijan, that we betrayed them. Like 100 years ago, they accused that the Russian army in 1915 did not protect them from the Turks, and the Red Army in 1920 did not allow them to keep Mount Ararat in Armenia, having entered into an alliance with Turkey. No need to drag Soros here as an excuse. For example, the Hungarians have long figured out their fellow countryman, declaring him persona non grata.
    1. MTN
      MTN 10 November 2020 20: 32
      +1
      Quote: Konnick
      On the contrary, I am glad for the Azerbaijanis, they have returned theirs.

      Thank you, Kolya! I am glad that there are adequate people and, most importantly, who can rightly dot everything and. We appreciate it.

      Quote: Konnick
      The only trouble is that they are again will blame us Russians, that we sold weapons to Azerbaijan, that we betrayed them.

      Already started. On the forums as well.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 November 2020 18: 38
    0
    Quote: MaxWRX
    I estimate that in 5-6 years the Azerbaijanis will again climb and seize it to the end when we leave. Now they will create infrastructure, purchase weapons, analyze the experience of the database, and train. Judging by the territory that the Azeri gets. the war will be even more fleeting. https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/11/2020/5faa93c99a7947733377a159?from=from_main_1
    Aliyev is pleased that he received almost everything except Karabakh itself, there is no need to lose soldiers (the losses are still large), there is no need to fight in the winter, and both military and financial resources have been depleted. And winter is ahead.
    Putin is pleased that there are disputed territories (he likes to leave leverage) and like he sorted everything out.
    Pashinyan somehow saved the Karabakh itself, thousands of lives and military equipment. Maybe next time they will fight better?

    Russia stopped this conflict when it had sufficient leverage for this. Everything else is sucking out of the finger.
    1. MTN
      MTN 10 November 2020 20: 35
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Russia stopped this conflict when it had sufficient leverage for this.

      How can you imagine that Russia was waiting for it to have leverage? I'm sure everything has been agreed upon from the first to the last cartridge. Now I can write several levers of pressure on Azerbaijan. You are not right. It is not possible to decide anything on the territory of the Caucasus and Transcaucasia without Russia. This mission is impossible. Here the Russians from the tsarist times gave their lives during the wars with Persia and the Ottoman Empire. De facto, a province was created on the territory, and Armenian Christians were settled there ... then loyal to the Russian crown. That's all. And then the Armenians decided to discard the owner and even offend him. This is not forgiven.

      By the way, this is not the first time. I already wrote that the Armenians were punished 2 times by the Russian crown. First time under Elizabeth or Catherine, I'm afraid to make a mistake, and the second time under Nicholas. If you are interested, I will try to dig up this information from independent sources.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 18: 44
    +2
    Damn, yes, they said that Pashinyan would give up Karabakh when he was chosen. So, it is not the main insignificance that is to blame, but those insignificants who went out into the street chose it. Armenians are not sorry at all.
    1. MTN
      MTN 10 November 2020 20: 38
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      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Damn, yes, they said that Pashinyan would give up Karabakh when he was chosen. So, it is not the main insignificance that is to blame, but those insignificants who went out into the street chose it. Armenians are not sorry at all.

      That's exactly Victor. The main trouble of the Armenians is that they think that everyone owes them. Although in real life they owe everyone.
  • tarakan
    tarakan 10 November 2020 18: 50
    +2
    Quote- "[/ b] took by storm the buildings of parliament and other authorities [b]"your energy, yes to the front line, WHERE YOU HIDDEN WHEN DEFENDING SHUSHA ?????
  • Igor Semenov
    Igor Semenov 10 November 2020 18: 50
    +2
    This victory has many fathers. And defeat is always an orphan. It is clear that Pashinyan, as the head of Armenia, is to blame. But something tells me that any other outcome would have been the same.
  • Ganja
    Ganja 10 November 2020 18: 53
    +3
    Back in the summer when an Azerbaijani general was killed behind the front lines, funny people, these Armenians were militantly waving their sabers and built into the queue to take a selfie with Pashinyan, now they kick him, instead of mourning the dead, several thousand young and not young people are organizing some other rallies. For 30 years, the Armenians did not want this, but now Pashinyan is to blame
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 10 November 2020 19: 04
    +2
    It is bad that there are no sober voices among the Armenians. Some grudges are now at Russia, now at the United States, now at Pashinyan. Nobody says what to do next. To continue living with resentment towards the whole world, smashing offices or trying to draw conclusions?
    Thank God, nobody touched Armenia itself. Her army is intact. There is no destruction in the country. Azerbaijanis do not stand at the gates of Yerevan.
    1. MTN
      MTN 10 November 2020 20: 39
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      Quote: Moskovit
      It is bad that no sober voices are heard among the Armenians.

      Alexey, if they had a sober judgment there, they would never quarrel with all their neighbors. I will say even more. In 30-50 years they will definitely start again. This is not the first time. This is already 3 times.
  • tarakan
    tarakan 10 November 2020 19: 06
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    Quote: Leeds
    The position of Russia and the results acceptable to it could have been different if those events did not take place. I understand that the winning side, like the Turks and the Israelis, is now on yet another emotional upsurge due to the impressive success (not exaggerating) of their UAVs. But is it far-sighted to underestimate the Russian army? It's up to you though. Or do you seriously think that Russia could only observe? We Russians have a short political memory, but the leadership probably drew conclusions for itself then.

    Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
    Baku and NATO country Turkey are brothers, that NATO is getting closer to the borders of Russia Putin will treat Erdogan with ice cream and Erdo's friend will say come on now and export Iskander take C 400 bought Iskander now Take

    Why not? They settled in Syria (gathered all the scumbags in one place and slowly reset them to zero) calmed Karabakh (set borders to calm the two sides)
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 10 November 2020 19: 31
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    let them trust more soros and Europe more, so soon armenia will not become if they trust