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Aliyev confirmed that the peacekeeping mission in Karabakh will be Russian-Turkish

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Photos from the joint exercises of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and Turkey held earlier



The Russian peacekeeping forces are beginning to develop the territory of their deployment in Nagorno-Karabakh. The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan has been stopped at the moment. The corresponding agreement was reached "with mutual consent" of the parties to the Transcaucasian conflict.

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, speaking about the agreement, which provides for the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Karabakh, said that this decision was "very difficult for him". It should be recalled that by that time the advance detachments of the Azerbaijani armed forces were already in the vicinity of Stepanakert, from which a mass exodus of the Armenian population began even earlier.

This night, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said in his address that one of the clauses of the agreement on the cessation of hostilities refers to the introduction of Turkish troops into Nagorno Karabakh, in addition to the Russian peacekeeping contingent, who will interact with Russian peacekeepers.

This statement by Aliyev was preceded by negotiations with the Russian president in the format of a video link.

Aliyev during a conversation with Putin:

I would also like to express my gratitude today to the President of the Republic of Turkey, Mr. Recep Tayyip Erdogan for his active participation in the political settlement of the conflict, and one of the points of today's statement is the joint peacekeeping mission of Russia and Turkey. Thus, we are creating a completely new format of interaction in the region, not only within the framework of the conflict settlement, but also for future development.

Full video version of the talks between Vladimir Putin and Ilham Aliyev:


It is worth recalling that earlier President of Turkey Erdogan called Putin, who proposed the coordination of Russian-Turkish actions in Karabakh according to the same principle by which such interaction takes place in Syria. If the entry of the Turkish military into Karabakh takes place, then we can say that Erdogan's proposal in one way or another was ultimately accepted by the Kremlin.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 10 November 2020 07: 15
    35
    All the same, the Turks were able to officially get into this region ... Now it will be problematic to squeeze them out of there ... For Erdogan, this is a success. Next in line is a similar likely scenario in the LPNR already performed by Zelensky.
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 10 November 2020 07: 24
      10
      Aliyev confirmed that the peacekeeping mission in Karabakh will be Russian-Turkish
      what
      Russian peacekeeping contingent enters Nagorno-Karabakh
      (https://topwar.ru/176939-rossijskij-mirotvorcheskij-kontingent-vhodit-v-nagornyj-karabah.html)

      We enter on one side, the Turks on the other ...

      Hello Idlib! A couple of hundred kilometers from our borders ...
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 10 November 2020 07: 49
        +7
        Quote: BDRM 667
        We enter on one side, the Turks on the other ...

        Hello Idlib! A couple of hundred kilometers from our borders ...

        Exactly! 80 km from the border of Russia, and, in fact, on it, the Turks settled.
        The Kremlin is a fat minus.
        1. dr.mel51
          dr.mel51 10 November 2020 07: 55
          20
          You at least look at the map 80 km ignoramus. And Azeybarjan so borders on Russia.
          1. BDRM 667
            BDRM 667 10 November 2020 08: 20
            -4
            Quote: dr.mel51
            You at least look at the map 80 km ignoramus. And Azeybarjan so borders on Russia.


            If "ignorantИ", which means to my address:
            Quote: BDRM 667
            Hello Idlib! A couple of hundred kilometers from our borders ...




            If it is difficult to see on the screen, then it is indicated direct distance from Shushi, which, by the way, is not located close to the border, and the village of Gdym in Dagestan.

            And the hit of an Azerbaijani S-300 missile in the course of a search on our territory speaks for itself.
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 10 November 2020 08: 20
            +6
            Quote: dr.mel51
            Do you even look at the map 80 km ignoramus

            Do you even know what a "card" is, you ignoramus? fool
            It seems that NO, because if you open it, you can see that from Karabakh to Russia 80 km
            Quote: dr.mel51
            And Azeybarjan is with Russia

            After the victory of TURKEY in Karabakh and leaving its troops in Azerbaijan, it is already, in fact, TURKEY borders on Russia.

            They have not been there for exactly one hundred years. And so they came again. Let me remind you that 100 years ago they came to Dagestan, where they had many supporters. And now, not beside him.

            Got it, no? No.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 10 November 2020 08: 44
              0
              Quote: Olgovich
              After the victory of TURKEY in Karabakh and leaving its troops in Azerbaijan, it is already, in fact, TURKEY borders on Russia.

              It is too early to talk about this, a kneading is planned in Yerevan, Pashinyan's impeachment and a rejection of the ceasefire agreements are expected.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 10 November 2020 23: 19
                +7
                Of course early.
                There will be no rejection of the agreements - the Armenian army will not give.
                And the agreements were concluded on old UN resolutions.
                There are no Turks there. Nor are they in the peacekeeping mission of the Russian Federation in Karabakh.
                A certain Center is being organized on the territory of Azerbaijan.
                This is where the Turks will sit.
                That's all for now. Let's see further.
            2. BDRM 667
              BDRM 667 10 November 2020 08: 55
              -1
              Quote: Olgovich
              Do you even know what a "card" is, you ignoramus? fool
              It seems that NO, because if you open it, you can see that from Karabakh to Russia 80 km

              Forgive me of course, but in what place on the map (terrain) are these 80 km?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 10 November 2020 10: 03
                +1
                Quote: BDRM 667
                Quote: Olgovich
                Do you even know what a "card" is, you ignoramus? fool
                It seems that NO, because if you open it, you can see that from Karabakh to Russia 80 km

                Forgive me of course, but in what place on the map (terrain) are these 80 km?

                from the northeastern extreme point of Karabakh to the Russian border. And it doesn't matter + - another dozen km.

                It's a PRINCIPLE
            3. Roman070280
              Roman070280 10 November 2020 09: 38
              +2
              from Karabakh to Russia 80 km


              After the victory of TURKEY in Karabakh and leaving its troops in Azerbaijan, it is already, in fact, TURKEY borders on Russia.


              The person wrote about this above .. what is the use of looking at 80 km from Karabakh, if "Azeybarjan already borders on Russia."

              Got it, didn't it? no
        2. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 08: 29
          -3
          Quote: Olgovich
          Turks settled

          Aliyev, on the contrary, is getting rid of the extra Turks by the Russian peacekeepers. The elephant was not even noticed ... the main thing is that Azerbaijan gets free passage through Armenia to Nakhichevan, i.e. the road. Therefore, Karabakh itself remains for Armenians with Russian ... occupation, if you like. And Aliyev is restoring control over Nakhichevan. This is how Nakhichevan borders on Turkey and the threat of de facto transformation into a full Turkish protectorate will now be lifted. Why did the Turkish saboteurs shoot down the helicopter. They understood that the Kremlin and Baku had divorced the Turks. We wanted to drive a wedge and disrupt the plan at last. Aliyev, however, urgently admitted "a mistake", so it is still a good reason to ask the Turks to leave. Now in Armenia they will chase the Soros with furry rags. They are already beating. The West is shish, not Armenia, and the Turks will get a donut hole, but not Nakhichevan. And Russia takes Karabakh ... for itself. This is called aerobatics in geopolitics. Everything was done for the elections in the US, Macron was lowered under the plinth, otherwise he wanted to appear as the new leader of the EU, but he leaked and was blown away, did not pull on Buanoparte wassat
          1. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 10 November 2020 08: 38
            +5
            What for RF Karabakh, that's just? But the Turks are now registered there thoroughly.
            And FSA is like plywood over Paris here, of course laughing
            1. hrych
              hrych 10 November 2020 08: 41
              -1
              Like this
              Quote: Incvizitor
              What for
              ? The population is minuscule for economic injections, the entire population will work to provide a BASE of peacekeepers. Where are the Turks? Suitcase, station, Ankara. That's it, the war is over. We disperse. Not only that, if someday they might ask us from Armenia. The little pigs will come to their senses from the blow ... in decades laughing Who will ask us from Karabakh? This is nobody's land wassat Rubilovo is powerful, and everything is taken ... by the Russians good
              1. sergey32
                sergey32 10 November 2020 08: 59
                +9
                Hrych, you have identified the main thing. good Allow me to gloat. As recently as yesterday, he commented: "A compromise is possible. For example, the Armenians are left with Nagorno-Karabakh proper and the corridor to it. Azerbaijanis get their areas of field Karabakh and a corridor to Nakhichevan for the railway and motorway with a status similar to the road to western Berlin from Germany. . The Turks lift the blockade from Armenia. " So I was so minded on both sides. I am more and more convinced that it was not for nothing that I voted for the first time in 18 for our President.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 10 November 2020 09: 23
                  +3
                  Quote: sergey32
                  The Turks lift the blockade from Armenia.

                  So not the Turks, but the Azerbaijanis. Now the road branch from the Russian Federation to the Republic of Armenia will be simultaneously with the AR branch to Nakhichevan. And after all, no one will dare to touch, because reciprocity. This is how a hypothetical nuclear response has kept the peace between the West and Russia for 70 years. And if you noticed a theater of operations, then the Azerbaijanis went to the Armenian border first. What for? Why not immediately to Shushi? There the road will pass ... to Nakhichevan. And this will be the final route of the road through Armenia. Of course, Russian Railways will take care of this. And Aliyev is not so simple. Well done! And the "brother" was thrown into Beyraktary and buried by the Turkish special forces, but also agreed with the King of the North. good
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 10 November 2020 23: 22
                    +4
                    I rarely agree with you, but in this case you are 100% right. In the east, the more they thank you, the faster you need to get home. wink
              2. hydrox
                hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 19
                -2
                In addition: both in Armenia and in NGOs (I wonder what it will be called now, so that no one is offended? lol) now governor-generals will rule (also with a curfew, go ...) - so the soros will not scatter now (in part to rally), but what will the presence of the Turks look like (with an Armenian attitude towards them)?
                1. hrych
                  hrych 10 November 2020 09: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: hydrox
                  what will the presence of the Turks look like

                  No way wassat They won't see them.
              3. Victorio
                Victorio 10 November 2020 10: 36
                +4
                ===
                Quote: hrych
                Like this
                Quote: Incvizitor
                What for
                ? The population is minuscule for economic injections, the entire population will work to provide a BASE of peacekeepers. Where are the Turks? Suitcase, station, Ankara. That's it, the war is over. We disperse. Not only that, if someday they might ask us from Armenia. The little pigs will come to their senses from the blow ... in decades laughing Who will ask us from Karabakh? This is nobody's land wassat Rubilovo is powerful, and everything is taken ... by the Russians good

                ===
                Somehow you are optimistic. Why would the Turks, in the rank of winners, leave?
                1. hrych
                  hrych 10 November 2020 10: 57
                  -1
                  And why does Aliyev need Turks? Secondly, it is our peacekeepers who determine the status quo. Now the soros in Armenia will be torn apart and the battle will flare up again. He also has no strength, serious losses in the most elite units. The Armenians fought stubbornly for a month and now winter is coming and there are mountains left, the UAVs have actually been neutralized and their fleet received unacceptable losses. So, what is next? And what if Armenia enters the war? On NKR the teeth are badly knocked out. And if Prezik is announced in the USA? And the United States will fully join the game. Everything was done correctly and on time. And by the way, it is necessary to restore villages and even cities and settle refugees there, and not get more refugees from Ganja. Aliyev calculated everything and does everything correctly. On the contrary, the stubbornness of the Armenians and the obstinacy of Pashinyan delayed the process. That was the calculation to solve everything before the end of the elections in the United States, but ... they dragged on and these days decided the outcome, Pashinyan's surrender ... to Russia. And also Nakhichevan and again Nakhichevan.
                  1. Victorio
                    Victorio 10 November 2020 11: 06
                    +5
                    Quote: hrych
                    And why does Aliyev need Turks?

                    ===
                    there are certainly obligations, and the current status of the Turks will allow / allow them not to really take into account the wishes of Aliyev. here he, in my opinion, gave a blunder. let the goat into the garden.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 10 November 2020 11: 11
                      -5
                      Quote: Victorio
                      gave a blunder

                      Will give a discount on oil, brotherly ... half a percent wassat Understand, he is taking Nakhichevan out of Erdogan's nose, he is simply taking it away, and everything was going exactly to this. Nakhichevan is more important than Karabakh and Aliyev was losing it, and the brilliant operation ... was apparently developed at the General Staff. Our General Staff wassat
                      1. Victorio
                        Victorio 10 November 2020 11: 15
                        +6
                        Quote: hrych
                        Quote: Victorio
                        gave a blunder

                        Will give a discount on oil, brotherly ... half a percent wassat Understand, he is taking Nakhichevan out of Erdogan's nose, he is simply taking it away, and everything was going exactly to this. Nakhichevan is more important than Karabakh and Aliyev was losing it, and the brilliant operation ... was apparently developed at the General Staff. Our General Staff wassat

                        ===
                        let's see, time will tell. I am confident that Azerbaijan in the orbit of the Russian Federation is Azerbaijan. but Azerbaijan in the orbit of turkey is a province of turkey
                      2. hrych
                        hrych 10 November 2020 11: 18
                        0
                        Aliyev needs Armenia in order not to be a province. There is no border. Is it still the same Nakhichevan.
                    2. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 11 November 2020 01: 28
                      +3
                      "and a brilliant operation ... apparently developed in the General Staff. Our General Staff" ///
                      ----
                      Don't scoff at the Russian General Staff. stop
                      Ugly.
                      The defeat of the Armenian army is a complete failure of the Armenian General Staff. To which the Russian General Staff has nothing to do.
        3. Olgovich
          Olgovich 10 November 2020 08: 55
          -4
          Quote: hrych
          and the Turks will get a donut hole,

          The Turks received a land border with Russia, because Azerbaijan owes EVERYTHING to Turkey now, in fact, a full vassal of Turkey.
          Quote: hrych
          And Russia takes Karabakh ... for itself. This is called aerobatics in geopolitics.

          This is called a complete fiasco of Russia: it received an OFFICIAL Turkish army at the border where it had not been for 100 years, as well as a bloody, senseless, costly "peacekeeping" operation
          1. hrych
            hrych 10 November 2020 09: 06
            -1
            Quote: Olgovich
            Turks got a land border with Russia

            Why did it happen? Aliyev fired? laughing The Turks won't even get the hapless Turkish base laughing What a vassal if on the territory of Azerbaijan there are ... our troops wassat Now we have figured out the path to Karabakh and Nakhichevan, Duc AzR will also enter the CSTO, and where does whine about Russia's defeat wassatRussia for the war and ... appeared the same, but immediately with the Victory good You need to figure out what is happening, and the key word is NAKHICHEVAN.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 10 November 2020 10: 40
              +9
              Quote: hrych
              Why did it happen?

              Open your eyes and see the TURKISH ARMY in Azerbaijan. Its presence has already been recognized by him
              Quote: hrych
              Aliyev dismissed?

              It depends from where: from the position of the leader independent countries, in fact, yes, on the contrary, he was accepted for the post of "Erdogan's poodle".
              Quote: hrych
              The Turks won't even get the hapless Turkish base

              belay THERE IS THEIR aviation, troops, infrastructure, management az. army, barmalei, in the end (NOBODY promised to bring them out!).
              WHAT else do you need to call a "base"? All Azerbjan became her- this is the payback for the victory.
              Quote: hrych
              What a vassal if on the territory of Azerbaijan there are ... our troops

              There will be .... 5 years (or earlier), then they WILL BE DROPPED out when Turkey is finally consolidated there: the only word of the poodle is enough for this (and there are no other reasons to be there) on the order of the owner.
              Quote: hrych
              where does whine about the loss of Russia

              Turkey directly breathes again on DAGESTAN, from where it was thrown out a hundred years ago and where it did not stink for these 100 years
              Quote: hrych
              Russia for the war and ... appeared the same, but immediately with the Victory

              This is you about the Mi 24, you have to understand.

              You and I have different understandings of victories.
              Quote: hrych
              You need to figure out what is happening, and the key word is NAKHICHEVAN.

              No, there is another key word: q.

              As for Nakhichevan, now yes, Turkey open direct land way to the East and North.

              So get ready.
              1. hrych
                hrych 10 November 2020 11: 07
                -4
                Mi-24 was lost, but in battles there were even more losses, including accidental ones. Everything here is done by someone else's hands. To squeeze out Karabakh, which Armenia did not dare to recognize de jure and which Azerbaijan did not dare to take de facto is a brilliant achievement of our geopolitics and our army operation, because our units ... are already there.
                Quote: Olgovich
                get ready

                For what? We are a nuclear superpower and Ankara can evaporate at any moment. Remember this.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 10 November 2020 12: 13
                  -3
                  Quote: hrych
                  Wring out Karabakh, which Armenia did not dare to recognize de jure and which Azerbaijan did not dare to take de facto, is a brilliant achievement of our geopolitics and our army operation, because our units ... are already there.

                  What ?! belay

                  Yes Russia Will be thrown out of there and very soon there are NO levers to stay with her. I burst through. One word of the Sultan is enough, which will broadcast his poodle - and march to the exit !. And this is where her word was decisive a month ago.

                  Stupid, stupid, treacherous, impotent (in relation to YOUR, first of all, interests) politics treason regarding Russia's interests in the Transcaucasus.

                  They didn’t want to stop the TURKISH expansion in Karabakh WITH ANOTHER hands, so now meet the Turks and their barmolees in Dagestan and FURTHER north already purely their hands
                  н
                  Quote: hrych
                  get ready

                  For what?

                  What, hasn't reached this day? To northern Cyprus, northern Syria, Karabakhs, but already on OWN territory.
                  Quote: hrych
                  We are a nuclear superpower and Ankara can evaporate at any moment. Remember this.

                  lol laughing
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 10 November 2020 17: 30
                    0
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Russia will be thrown out of there

                    Try laughing Then come in.
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 11 November 2020 12: 34
                      +1
                      Quote: hrych

                      Try and then come in.

                      You READ more to begin with: Russia has NO RIGHTS in Karabakhk and it is OBLIGED to leave it at the request of Turtsiadzhan and it has NO right to object.
                    2. hrych
                      hrych 11 November 2020 12: 41
                      -1
                      You read the clauses of the contract carefully. Five years and automatic renewal. The agreement has been signed and is not subject to appeal.
                    3. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 11 November 2020 13: 02
                      +1
                      Quote: hrych
                      Five years and automatic renewal. The agreement has been signed and is not subject to appeal.

                      Memorize: C
                      rock stay of the peacekeeping contingent of the Russian Federation - 5 years with automatic extension for the next 5-year periodsif none of the Parties notifies 6 months before the expiration of the period of intention to terminate the application of this provision.


                      The Sultan will say "VON!" and get away: you have NO rights!
                    4. hrych
                      hrych 11 November 2020 13: 05
                      -1
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      "WON!"

                      I tell you this wassatTreat others wassat
          2. hydroy
            hydroy 10 November 2020 13: 10
            -5
            and at any moment the United States will throw nuclear weapons at Russia!
            1. hrych
              hrych 10 November 2020 17: 33
              +2
              Quote: hydroy
              and at any moment the United States will throw nuclear weapons at Russia!

              Why did it happen? From the beginning of the Cold War, there was a plan for a nuclear attack on the USSR and the Russian Federation. So what? The glasses did not work either. And Ankara ... but no one cares, even good fellows will say and ... targeted sanctions ... on Shoigu wassat
            2. Garris199
              Garris199 10 November 2020 21: 58
              +3
              Will they die for the Turks? Do you think Americans are naive children? They don't care about the Turks one hundred and five hundred times.
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 10 November 2020 11: 45
        +3
        I think that the key is not in Nakhichevan, but in the "Russia-Iran" railway, and an extra base in NK in the Caucasus will never be superfluous (if there is a permanent air corridor through Azerbaijan)
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 17: 55
          +1
          Quote: hydrox
          if it has a permanent air corridor through Azerbaijan

          So not only air, but the most, that neither is land. And with the full consent of Baku.
    2. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 10 November 2020 10: 06
      +3
      Turks have been in Azerbaijan for at least 25 years. As the Soviet Union collapsed, the first instructors arrived. Turkey will not be peacekeepers, but observers. It's like the OSCE in the Donbass.
    3. CSKA
      CSKA 10 November 2020 10: 49
      -2
      Quote: Olgovich
      This is called a complete fiasco of Russia: it received an OFFICIAL Turkish army at the border

      Oh, it's already good to chalk nonsense. What is the border with the Russian Federation, what troops? Not only will they not be on the border with the Russian Federation, there will still be as many as 1000 or 2000, so what? will they start an invasion? And the fact that from the border of Turkey to the border with the Russian Federation on a straight line of 300 km did not bother you much before?
  2. Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 10 November 2020 09: 33
    -3
    1. Aliyev said that the Turks will also bring in their peacekeepers (by the way, they are there anyway, before the division)
    2. Russia has forgiven and forgotten about the downed helicopter.
    3. Actually from Karabakh Russia remains about 20% of the original territory (see map)

    It remains to call Erdogan a friend again. No, older brother this time.
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 10: 05
      -3
      Do not smack nonsense, it hurts laughing At the end of the war, all the Turkish specialists ... go home. Peacekeepers are a matter of mutual agreement. Those. so that both Azerbaijanis and Armenians agree. The Turkish peacekeepers did not surrender to the Armenians in any way. The whole topic is closed.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 10 November 2020 12: 50
        +2
        Quote: hrych
        At the end of the war, all the Turkish specialists ... go home.

        Have you already written a petition to the Sultan and received the "go-ahead"? No?

        Then why bother?
        Quote: hrych
        Peacekeepers are a matter of mutual agreement. Those. so that both Azerbaijanis and Armenians agree.

        NOBODY asks the Armenians and will never ask again. since
        Quote: hrych
        The topic is closed.
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 17: 29
          -2
          Quote: Olgovich
          petition was written to the Sultan

          The Sultan is alive thanks to the King of the North. The Sultan does everything. as the King of the North allows. If he does too much, then the base of Turkish proxies takes off ... right during the parade.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 11 November 2020 12: 25
            0
            Quote: hrych
            The Sultan is alive thanks to the King of the North. The Sultan does everything. as the King of the North allows

            The Sultan spat saliva on the kings, for they had lost their influence there.

            Turkey now has it there, and the "king" by the sultan is only allowed to perform the dirtiest, senseless and absolutely useless work for Russia - until the first shout of the sultan, who could kick him out at any moment.

            After that, the Armenians will kick out the base in Gyumri - they no longer need it
            Quote: hrych
            If he does too much, then the base of Turkish proxies takes off ... right during the parade.

            Oh, how terrible the Sultan is! lol
            He is fick of this meat, which is cheaper than Russia. missiles.

            Chop on your forehead: now there everything is decided by the WINNER (who worked there, invested, taught, educated, donated, was not afraid, and therefore the result), and those who sat on the stove crawl away to themselves ...
            1. hrych
              hrych 11 November 2020 12: 36
              0
              In your case, the main thing is to have a snack wassat and do not interfere with the little white ... Therefore,
              Hack into your forehead
              on his own, that Armenia from the soros, trying to get rid of Russian influence, will be cleaned and brutally. Our base is there forever. But now our base will still be in Stepanokert, i.e. on the territory of Azerbaijan. And there will also be a road from Russia to Armenia and Nakhichevan under the full control of the Russian FSB. And the WINNER is sitting in the Kremlin. Now our troops are in Abkhazia, South Ossetia (i.e. the former territories of Georgia), Armenia and Azerbaijan. And they control the most important ROADS. And How? And the nonsense about the great sultan ... leave yourself laughing
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 11 November 2020 12: 56
                0
                Quote: hrych
                In your case, the main thing is to have a snack and not interfere with the little white ... Therefore,

                In your case, nothing will help at all, so these nonsense about the "base" in Stepanakert lol ... about the road from Russia to Armenia and Nakhichevan under the full control of the FSB lol and "you can't take away the winner with a snack.

                Hack it on your forehead: Russia has NO RIGHTS in kakrabakh, guarantees, permissible achievements, except to die on checkpoints. EVERYTHING!

                At the first shout-out (this is Putin accepted) and there is no way to reject
                Quote: hrych
                And the WINNER is sitting in the Kremlin. Now our troops are in Abkhazia, South Ossetia (i.e. the former territories of Georgia), Armenia and Azerbaijan

                The winner is sitting in Istanbul and sucking on the newly acquired territories of Karabakh and taking aim at Dagestan, North Asia and the Volga region.

                From Azerbaijan and Armenia, after the completion of the stupid peacekeeping-kicked out-just remember this when you see.
                Quote: hrych
                ii (i.e. the former territories of Georgia), Armenia and Azerbaijan. And they control the most important ROADS. And How?

                The roads are controlled by Azerbaijan and your "controllers" are tightly controlled, not even letting them make a sound.
              2. hrych
                hrych 11 November 2020 13: 04
                -1
                I didn't read. Too lazy to read, especially all sorts of nonsense. laughing Believe further in your "brilliant" analytics wassat
              3. Olgovich
                Olgovich 11 November 2020 15: 24
                -2
                Quote: hrych
                Believe further in your "brilliant" analytics

                Believe in your delusions.

                BUT-don't forget about the new, for the first time in 100 years reality-TURKISH in the South Caucasus.

                They were allowed there by your "king": it is difficult to imagine greater defeat and humiliation ...

                Who would have said such a thing a month ago, they would have surrendered ...
  3. hydroy
    hydroy 10 November 2020 13: 14
    0
    The topic is not closed, Khrych, the Turks are arrogant and will climb their peacekeepers to Karabakh, in vain they helped their "younger" brother! If Aliyev doesn’t say "scatter", then the Turks will climb, and what will Russia do, but nothing else) Armenians displace Pashik, Armenians assign the mission to the opposition and deratify the treaty, guess what will happen next? fighting again, if the specialists do not say "Stop" to the Armenians!
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 17: 19
      0
      Quote: hydroy
      fighting again

      Pashinyan was unambiguously overthrown. And the Armenians, please ... get ready for ten years, buy weapons, learn modern tactics of military operations. Nooo, this requires a pro-Russian government. Armenia is a poor country, there are no wells. The Armenians do not have the strength for offensive operations ... therefore MIR.
  4. Vadim_888
    Vadim_888 10 November 2020 20: 09
    -1
    ... laughing At the end of the war, all the Turkish specialists ... go home.

    Do the Turks know about this?
    Do you have something to convince them to go home?
    2000 Russian soldiers?
    I think Erdogan will only smile at this laughing
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 21: 07
      0
      Quote: Vadim_888
      I think Erdogan will only smile at this

      Not 2 thousand RF-II, but Azerbaijanis will kiss them, give them an enema of oil and go home to Ankara laughing
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 10 November 2020 12: 01
    +4
    Quote: hrych
    Therefore, Karabakh itself remains for the Armenians with the Russian ... occupation, if you like.

    After the negotiations are over, the Armenians will have about 20% of the NKR territory. Under the protectorate of Russian peacekeepers. And few of the Armenians will stay there, realizing that at any moment of theirs ... And eventually the peacekeepers will leave, and the Azeri-Turks will occupy these territories too.
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2020 17: 26
      -1
      Quote: Hyperion
      peacekeepers will leave

      Never. They didn’t come in for that. And not 20%, but most. We will not count 5 + 2 districts in the NKR as not included. Consider the present NKR an analogue of South Ossetia ... until 08.08.08. And the residents of NKR are more protected from now on. than even the inhabitants of the Republic of Armenia. There the base and the Collective Security Treaty Organization, and here are the Russian bayonets directly.
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 10 November 2020 18: 00
        +4
        Quote: hrych
        Never. They didn’t come in for that.

        It's never too long. In 5 years it will be seen.
        Quote: hrych
        We will not count 5 + 2 districts in the NKR as not included.

        Why won't we? These areas were ruled by the NKR as well as the Karabakh Highlands. And now the Azeri-Turks with the Idlib barmaley will hang out there.
        Quote: hrych
        And the residents of NKR are more protected from now on.

        I already wrote: very few people will stay there. In times of peace, no more than 150 thousand people lived in the entire NKR.
        Now, when the Lachin corridor, 5 kilometers wide, will remain with Armenia and there will be only a few unclear prospects for 5 years.
        The analyst from you is so-so, no offense. Reread your comments in a month and a half. And about the fact that Karabakh will not be taken, and about the fact that with "Kardashian money" the Armenians will buy drones for themselves and fry the Azeri Turks. And Karabakh (the one that is the highland), they did not take all, yes. But not because the Armenians defended him competently, but because the Referee was found, who stopped the Azerbaijanis. I would not stop, Azerbaijan and Stepanakert would take the rest.
        I am generally silent about the lack of an adequate tough response for the Mi-24 ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 November 2020 18: 13
          -1
          Quote: Hyperion
          Reread your comments in a month and a half. And about the fact that Karabakh will not be taken, and about the fact that with "Kardashian money" the Armenians will buy drones for themselves and fry the Azeri Turks.

          Quote: Hyperion
          Reread your comments in a month and a half. And about the fact that Karabakh will not be taken, and about the fact that with "Kardashian money" the Armenians will buy drones for themselves and fry the Azeri Turks.

          They did not take Karabakh. NKR will remain ethnically Armenian, de jure and was AzR, and de facto the protectorate from the RA passed to the RF. It is obvious. Kardashian killed a bunch of elite special forces and equipment with her loot. AzR losses are large. It is a fact.
          Quote: Hyperion
          But not because the Armenians defended it competently

          AzR agreed to the conditions of the Kremlin because of the actions of the NKR fighters. If not, then the Armenian army would intervene. Pashinyan came to this point. Or surrender the NKR to Russia or Armenia to enter the war. Soros crumbled due to the fact that the Armenian army did not intervene.
          Quote: Hyperion
          Mi-24 generally keep quiet ...
          So be quiet. He was shot down by Turkish saboteurs when they realized that the Kremlin and Baku had let the Turks ... through the forest. And this is exactly so. Shish Erdogan, not Nakhichevan.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 10 November 2020 18: 26
            +4
            Quote: hrych
            AzR losses are large. It is a fact.

            Bigger or Bigger? The Armenians have lost more, despite the fact that the population of Armenia is smaller.
            Quote: hrych
            They did not take Karabakh. NKR will remain ethnic Armenian

            We took enough. The Lachin umbilical cord will not give confidence to the Armenians there. They will move / squeeze out.

            Quote: hrych
            when they realized that the Kremlin and Baku had let the Turks ... through the forest.

            Holy naivety ...
            Quote: hrych
            Shish Erdogan, not Nakhichevan.

            Why would Erdogan Nakhichevan come from? He has all of Azerbaijan.
            Quote: hrych
            AzR agreed to the conditions of the Kremlin because of the actions of the NKR fighters. If not, then the Armenian army would intervene.

            Do not make me laugh. Have you seen Shusha? It is intact. It doesn't look like a desperate defense. The NKR fighters were pretty much knocked out, and the Armenian fighters can only "fight" with their parliament in Yerevan.
            1. hrych
              hrych 10 November 2020 18: 42
              -1
              Quote: Hyperion
              Why would Erdogan Nakhichevan come from? He has all of Azerbaijan.

              Delusion. Aliyev is smarter and smarter than Erdogan. And he proved it. Shish Erdogan, not Azerbaijan.
              Shushi was left on purpose. This is a conspiracy and threads lead ... to the Kremlin.
              Quote: Hyperion
              Holy naivety ...

              I don’t believe in the absence of behind-the-scenes agreements and I don’t believe in the absence of a conspiracy, when Karabakh is simply surrendered to ... Russia.
              1. Hypertension
                Hypertension 10 November 2020 18: 57
                +3
                Quote: hrych
                Shushi was left on purpose. This is a conspiracy and threads lead ... to the Kremlin.

                I wonder ... What was said to the defenders of Shushi to leave her? Any ideas?
                Quote: hrych
                I don’t believe in the absence of behind-the-scenes agreements and I don’t believe in the absence of a conspiracy, when Karabakh is simply surrendered to ... Russia.

                Believe it or not - not an argument. And not Karabakh is surrendered, but a stub from the NKR in the amount of about 20%. And in the rest of the territory there may be barmaley, about whom Naryshkin spoke.
                Quote: hrych
                Aliyev is smarter and smarter than Erdogan.

                Aliyev should now to Erdogan. His own people will not understand him if he starts to fool himself against Erdogan.
              2. hrych
                hrych 10 November 2020 19: 17
                -1
                20% - fake. You can count the area and make sure. Pashinyan accused a certain military leader. that left Shusha. Search there and you will find. Barmaley? So they found a reason to destroy an entire base in Idlib. It was necessary to blame and shut up in the subsequent mouth. Aliyev owes nothing to Erdogan. Oil is supplied there, and weapons and specialists are used for oil and gas supplies. In the east, kiss and insert a dagger into the woman's back, the essence is the norm of relationships.
              3. Hypertension
                Hypertension 10 November 2020 19: 31
                0
                Quote: hrych
                20% - fake. You can calculate the area and make sure

                Well, I'm conditional. Let it be 30%, I do not mind.
                Quote: hrych
                found a reason to destroy an entire base in Idlib

                Idlib is a war zone. De jure part of Syria. And if you hammer the barmaley on the territory of Azerbaijan Republic - a completely different alignment.
                Quote: hrych
                In the east, kiss and insert a dagger into the woman's back, the essence is the norm of relationships.

                You might think in the West, some honest gentlemen.
              4. hrych
                hrych 10 November 2020 21: 15
                0
                Quote: Hyperion
                Let it be 30% I do not mind

                Karabakh itself is not less than 70%
              5. Hypertension
                Hypertension 10 November 2020 23: 08
                +1
                From Himself - yes. Approximately 4000 km² Like Transnistria or South Ossetia. The area of ​​the NKR was 11458 km²
                In total, there is a territory of about 100x40 km.
  • 16329
    16329 10 November 2020 14: 08
    +1
    Everything is correct, plus the control of transport corridors from Nakhichevan by Russian border guards, a transport corridor from Iran to the Russian border
    Many people here do not understand this
  • CSKA
    CSKA 10 November 2020 10: 38
    -5
    Quote: Olgovich
    Turks settled

    Peacekeeping contingent and what?
    Quote: Olgovich
    The Kremlin is a fat minus.

    Do you have a better solution to this problem? Well enlighten us.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 10 November 2020 12: 47
      -1
      Quote: CSKA
      Peacekeeping contingent and what?

      howry, in u, peacemaking, when there already officially are aviation and special forces and infantry and specialists and barmaley?

      NOBODY promised to bring them out! This is forever and this is where they were not in sight for a HUNDRED YEARS!
      Quote: CSKA
      Do you have a better solution to this problem?

      It was necessary to break off Turkey there with ANYONE's hands: equipment, advisers, means.

      Those. exactly what Turkey did. She worked hard, worked hard and -GETTED an excellent result.

      And the one who sucked his paw on the stove received a deliberately losing, ungrateful, stupid, costly and senseless "peacekeeping operation, which does not solve any of its problems for Russia: Russia's influence is hopelessly gone.

      They did not want to stop the Turks in Karabakh with someone else's hands, get ready closer and with your own
  • X-factor
    X-factor 10 November 2020 20: 54
    -2
    Why 80? Solovyov revised?)
  • Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 10 November 2020 08: 53
    -1
    "All around treason, and cowardice, and deceit!" ©
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 10 November 2020 09: 13
      +9
      For Armenians, this is the best possible option. I repeat, the victory of the Maidan is paid for by the territory. Serbs, Georgians, Ukrainians, and now the Armenians will not let you lie.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 10 November 2020 13: 12
        0
        Quote: sergey32
        Armenians won't let you lie.

        I do not think that the Kremlin will tolerate Pashinyan, especially in light of the fact that there is our base on the territory of Armenia, according to an agreement from 95 to 44.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 10 November 2020 10: 19
    +3
    Yes, spit - that's honest.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 10 November 2020 13: 17
      -1
      And if the peacekeepers of the barmaley are murdered and a couple of armored personnel carriers are destroyed (...
  • CSKA
    CSKA 10 November 2020 10: 37
    -4
    Quote: BDRM 667
    Hello Idlib! A couple of hundred kilometers from our borders ...

    What are the similarities? There will be no heaps of militants in NKR.
  • Killemall
    Killemall 10 November 2020 14: 37
    -1
    and Zakharova said that the Turks would smoke on the sidelines ... we will see
  • Sergey_G_M
    Sergey_G_M 10 November 2020 07: 25
    12
    Turks have been cooperating with Azerbaijan for a long time. It is quite logical for Azerbaijan to balance the influence of Russia and Turkey.
    In Ukraine, it seems to me that this is not possible, and everyone understands this; in case of aggravation from the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it will simply "blow the north wind", since Azerbaijan did not do it in Karabakh.
  • Thrall
    Thrall 10 November 2020 07: 26
    +8
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    in the LDNR already performed by Zelensky

    There is no piano for Vovchik in Donbass and there never will be.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 10 November 2020 07: 34
      +2
      Vovchik is an actor, and without a piano he will sing what the bad uncles tell him behind his back. The concert at the request of the puppeteers from the US State Department will take place at the appointed time.
      1. Shkworen
        Shkworen 10 November 2020 08: 12
        -1
        the puppeteers themselves will start singing, and vovchik will be on the backing singing :)
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 10 November 2020 09: 00
          +1
          Quote: Shkworen
          the puppeteers themselves will start singing, and vovchik will be on the backing singing :)

          Kulovodov don't sing, they pull the strings from behind the screen ...
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 10 November 2020 08: 43
      +3
      This is possible when you are at war with the Armenians, who abandoned the city and blew from there, and then the people will not let the invaders take out an extra meter, they always washed themselves with blood.
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 24
      -2
      The piano, of course, will not be, but they will let the pants down with pleasure - yes, they will let them down well, right up to Odessa! As I understand it, our volunteers are already on the hot reserve (although they were "not recommended" to go to Karabakh) ...
  • Tusv
    Tusv 10 November 2020 07: 28
    10
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    All the same, the Turks were able to officially enter this region ...

    What did Vladimir Vladimirovich say? Close to text - Today you are signing a trilateral agreement with me. Everything. No violinist needed
    1. halpat
      halpat 10 November 2020 07: 32
      +5
      Quote: Tusv
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      All the same, the Turks were able to officially enter this region ...

      What did Vladimir Vladimirovich say? Close to text - Today you are signing a trilateral agreement with me. Everything. No violinist needed

      Yes, that's exactly what he said.
      There are 3 signatories: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia.
      Erdogan will of course be there :))
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 10 November 2020 07: 42
        0
        Phu ty. Long live Idlib 2.0. Russia and Turkey took away the victory from Azerbaijan. A decision to the detriment of the interests of Azerbaijan and Armenia, but in the interests of Russia and Turkey. Aliyev could not agree to this. The victory is stolen. Now Armenia is tied to Russia, and Azerbaijan to Turkey. It is now clear why a provocation was needed with a downed helicopter and that someone would have refused to bring in Russian-Turkish peacekeepers. Why do we need all this? Not enough Syria and Libya?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 10 November 2020 10: 22
          0
          They did not take it away - they simply gave Karabakh to Azerbaijan in a peaceful way, now Azerbaijani checkpoints will begin to appear on the border with Armenia, and there they will slowly occupy the entire territory, and then the UN officially recognizes the new border for Azerbaijan - so you can rejoice, you won and the Armenians washed themselves.
      2. Cottager452
        Cottager452 10 November 2020 07: 42
        -3
        Nearby, but slightly above.
        1. halpat
          halpat 10 November 2020 09: 33
          0
          Quote: Summer Resident452
          Nearby, but slightly above.

          in the attic? or on the roof ?? laughing
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      4. Woodman
        Woodman 10 November 2020 08: 25
        +4
        Quote: Halpat
        There are 3 signatories: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia.
        Erdogan will of course be there :))

        On a side chair.
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    2. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 10 November 2020 07: 39
      +6
      Quote: Tusv
      What did Vladimir Vladimirovich say? Close to text

      That's it! The Russian side, Aliyev's statement, did not comment and has not yet confirmed. And it was about observers, not about peacekeeping forces. The peacekeepers are only Russian, and therefore there will be no Turkish posts in the Lachin corridor and in Karabakh itself. And let them sneak around the territory of Azerbaijan, they are already there, like at home.
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        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 10 November 2020 07: 59
          +3
          Quote: Summer Resident452
          (I. Aliyev)
          Aliyev is not an authority for me! And from Putin's side, I have not heard this yet. It will be seen further. It was stated unequivocally, about the Russian peacekeepers, and the observers, these are from a different category, - without weapons, and only on the line of contact.
      2. Old tanker
        Old tanker 10 November 2020 08: 12
        +6
        Read the text of the agreement carefully. It clearly spelled out whose peacekeepers and in what quantity for how long are they introduced. Aliyev's statement is only statements. The fact that the Turkish contingent will be present at the Center for Peacekeeping Forces is certain. So in this center, for sure now, there will be others who want to stick their nose in.
    3. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 10 November 2020 20: 23
      +3
      ... What did Vladimir Vladimirovich say?

      That while he is president, the retirement age will not be raised.
      As long as he is president, the constitution is not shaky,
      Continue?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 10 November 2020 20: 38
        -2
        Quote: Vadim_888
        Continue?

        Continue. The site will endure. And even from two evils I prefer to wait for a pension for 14 (instead of 9) years, than not to wait for it when
  • Civil
    Civil 10 November 2020 07: 52
    +6
    NATO entered another former Soviet republic.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 10 November 2020 08: 03
      -7
      The solution of the Karabakh conflict is not profitable for Turkey, as well as for Russia, otherwise Azerbaijan and Armenia will really leave the sphere of influence of the first two countries and become really independent. Otherwise, Armenia, having lost Karabakh, would have gone to the West from Russia, and Turkey would have lost the lever of pressure on Azerbaijan. So we learned a half-hearted solution: Nakhichivan is largely controlled by Turkey, like the Azerbaijani troops there, and the helicopter from the Russian base was following a known route. We could agree. Gambit. Loss of a pawn, for the sake of an advantage on the chessboard.
      1. Old tanker
        Old tanker 10 November 2020 08: 20
        +5
        Do you really think that such decisions are taken right off the bat after a force majeure? And BTA aircraft from three airfields are teleported to Ulyanovsk. And the 15th brigade is making a hundred-kilometer march at the speed of a fighter from Samara to Ulyanovsk?
        A helicopter is definitely not a gambit. No one guys sacrificed to end the war.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 10 November 2020 08: 26
          -3
          Do you really think that such decisions are taken right off the bat after a force majeure?

          In fact, every now and then I believe that the decision was made and agreed upon in advance, and this is not force majeure, but a pre-planned action. Russian-Turkish peacekeepers.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 10 November 2020 08: 49
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        The Karabakh conflict, as well as Russia, otherwise Azerbaijan and Armenia will actually leave the sphere of influence of the first two countries and become really independent.

        If the question of Karabakh is closed, then this is Azerbaijan's direct road to NATO.
        Therefore, Karabakh is for a long time, like Transnistria, Abkhazia, Donbass ...
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 10 November 2020 09: 00
          0
          Armenia in NATO will be even faster than Azerbaijan.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 November 2020 10: 23
            0
            No one will take rogues to NATO.
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 35
          0
          FOUR countries of the owners of the Caspian Sea will not allow Aliyev this due to the Caspian's "open status".
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 10 November 2020 10: 39
            +2
            "NATO" is a wet night wishlist of ALL liberoids of Russophobic bottling!
            Please tell me, how many of these "willing" were accepted into NATO over the past five to ten years (do not count the Balkans, since the 30-year NATO cycle of "pacifying" the Balkans ended there - the last more or less successful NATO operation (not counting the failure with Serbia) in the heart of Europe)?
      3. Victorio
        Victorio 10 November 2020 11: 21
        -1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        The helicopter from the Russian base was following the known route. We could agree. Gambit. Loss of a pawn, for the sake of an advantage on the chessboard.

        ===
        in that case, they could have sent the drone for a pawn. and so people died.
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 10 November 2020 08: 03
      +2
      One can only applaud Erdogan, who is rapidly increasing his political weight in the world arena, crowding out the "multi-passer" there ...
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 10 November 2020 08: 30
        -1
        Quote: Snail N9
        One can only applaud Erdogan, who is rapidly increasing his political weight in the world arena, crowding out the "multi-passer" there ...

        It would be more profitable for Erdogan to completely seize Karabakh. Moreover, the hostilities were quite successful. But it didn't work out. The "multi-way operator" slowed him down.
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 37
        -1
        Do not rejoice: The Sultan was only allowed to be present at the division of land powers on the disputed piece of land - he did not receive any bonuses there.
  • hrych
    hrych 10 November 2020 08: 39
    -1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    the Turks were able to formally fit into this region.

    "exactly the opposite" laughing They were used like a latex mac wassat
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  • iouris
    iouris 10 November 2020 09: 53
    +1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    All the same, the Turks were able to officially enter this region ...

    Turkey has long been present "for the most tomatoes." It was the Russian Federation that managed to get in. However, given Turkey's destructive role and Erdogan's political practices, the contingent will have many problems. Aliyev took the blame for the helicopter and two crew members, but this is just a "Zhentelmen's act."
  • vVvAD
    vVvAD 10 November 2020 10: 26
    +2
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Next in line is a similar likely scenario in the LPNR already performed by Zelensky.

    Do not confuse warm with soft.
    The Apcax / Karabokh issue would have to be resolved sooner or later. As I understand it, the most densely populated areas remained with Armenia, 1 / 4-1 / 3 of the population of the NKAO will be subject to displacement, and as a result of the agreement, they will most likely be able to subsequently join Armenia - Azerbaijan returned most of its territories, sparsely populated by Armenians - and will proceed with the development of infrastructure, incl. and communications for Armenia, and Armenia - for Nakhichevan.
    Under Zelensky and any other inadequate Ukrainian president, the LDNR issue can be resolved, but not in favor of Ukraine - no one will allow massacre and mass deportation.
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  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 10 November 2020 13: 11
    -1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    All the same, the Turks were able to officially enter this region ...

    The Kremlin denied this message ...
    The issue of the stay of Turkish peacekeepers in Nagorno-Karabakh was not coordinated with anyone, the statement of the presidents of Russia, Armenia and Azerbaijan is not mentioned, said the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov.

    "I can comment on this as follows: there is not a single word about this in the text of the statement that was published, the three parties did not agree on this, and the stay of Turkish soldiers in Karabakh was not agreed," said Mr Peskov during a press call.

    So for now, let the Turkish sultan smoke. And I think that from the Karabakh conflict, Erdogan will get the ears of a dead donkey, not nishtyaks.
  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 10 November 2020 18: 02
    0
    Turks have been in this region for a long time, Azerbaijan is in line with Turkish politics
  • Michael67
    Michael67 11 November 2020 03: 46
    -1
    The Turk broke off. Not his fiefdom.
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 10 November 2020 07: 21
    +2
    Sorosonok Pashinyan about ... loved all polymers ...
    It was more important for him to spoil relations with Russia as much as possible, instead of strengthening the armed forces.
    The largest American embassy in the world is located in Armenia, several thousand "diplomats".
    They are doing something.
    What about son?
    Helped you your Poles are the Americans?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 10 November 2020 07: 25
      +4
      Maybe this was his task from Soros .. Now the Moor has done his job. The Moor must leave.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 10 November 2020 07: 27
        +1
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Now the Moor has done his job. The Moor must go.
        ... destroying everything!
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 42
          +2
          But it should be noted that Nikolka succeeded well: in just two years he shit about everything that he could reach, especially since he is now far, far from his "native land" and communication with him goes only through social networks.
  • Second major
    Second major 10 November 2020 07: 27
    +7
    Now Erdogan will become even more insolent.
  • Fungus
    Fungus 10 November 2020 07: 28
    +2
    Normal decision. Armenians could have lost all of Karabakh. And Turks have been hanging around in Azerbaijan for a long time. So it's no secret.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 10 November 2020 07: 42
      +1
      They practically lose it all. The Armenian troops must gradually leave the territory of Karabakh within a month.
      1. Fungus
        Fungus 10 November 2020 07: 44
        -4
        Most of the Armenians
      2. Ural resident
        Ural resident 10 November 2020 09: 10
        -1
        Quote: Greenwood
        They practically lose it all. The Armenian troops must gradually leave the territory of Karabakh within a month.

        Troops, but not residents. Residents (said) will be returned.
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 10 November 2020 20: 32
          +1
          .
          Troops, but not residents. Residents (said) will be returned.

          It was a conversation about the return of Arzeybadzhan residents, read more carefully laughing
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 44
        +2
        More conversations!
        It is good for the Armenian troops there if the regiment is full: the rest is local ...
  • Cottager452
    Cottager452 10 November 2020 07: 30
    -3
    The second Idlib and the Maidan in Armenia are strong.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 53
      +1
      There was a Maidan in Armenia two years ago: today is the harvest festival from this Maidan - the sorosets who will gather for the rally have not yet understood that they will receive fruits from this tree only in the form of good lullas - and even the American embassy will not help them (if our will have time to declare a curfew! laughing
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 November 2020 07: 31
    0
    Well, it's not just that the Sultan climbs there! This is a strategic region, this is an opportunity in the future to crush Azerbaijan under Turkey and territorially, by the method of absorption of the Azerbaijani lands by the Turks under the sauce of “uniting two fraternal peoples into one!” That is, this is a game for the future, and the Azerbaijanis will now owe their supply soldiers! The sultan managed to expel from the army Azeri officers with Soviet and Russian formations, and this is only the beginning!
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 10 November 2020 09: 56
      +1
      You would not need to advertise Sultan's Wishlist on this site ...
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 10 November 2020 17: 24
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Well, it's not just that the Sultan climbs there! This is a strategic region, this is an opportunity in the future to crush Azerbaijan under Turkey and territorially, by the method of absorption of the Azerbaijani lands by the Turks under the sauce of “uniting two fraternal peoples into one!” That is, this is a game for the future, and the Azerbaijanis will now owe their supply soldiers! The sultan managed to expel from the army Azeri officers with Soviet and Russian formations, and this is only the beginning!

      How long have Azerbaijanis and Turks been "fraternal peoples"? Turks are descendants of nomadic Turkmens from Central Asia, Azerbaijanis are descendants of local Albanians and Iranians. What do they have in common besides "opium for the people"? Well, also the fact that the Azerbaijanis were forcibly turned off - I would not be happy with such "kinship". And I have schoolmates there - no one from the army drove them away, in the 90s they all left, like we did here, in the Russian Federation.
  • Professor
    Professor 10 November 2020 07: 38
    0
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, speaking about the agreement, which provides for the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Karabakh, said that this decision was "very difficult for him".

    Karabakh goes to Azerbaijan and de facto. The fighting spirit of the Armenians was weathered.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 10 November 2020 07: 45
      -2
      Well no. Less than half is just leaving.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 10 November 2020 08: 52
        +2
        Quote: Fungus
        Well no. Less than half is just leaving.

        Based on the statements, the troops of the NKR and Azerbaijanis remain in their positions in Karabakh at the positions they have reached, and what will happen next is the question
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 10 November 2020 10: 45
        -1
        And it does not go away at all: these 7 regions already 30 years ago were recognized by the UN Security Council as territorially belonging to Azerbaijan and Aliyev took them to fight ONLY because the suddenly arisen evil spirit of the Sultan pushed him into one ear ... that the issue is not resolved by the world, so it is necessary to decide by military force with Turkish help ... but Russia intervened and the sultan received the tinsel.
        This instantly brought Aliev to his senses.
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 10 November 2020 20: 35
          +2
          ... and the sultan got the tinsel

          I wonder how he got it? Did the Armenians take Kars?
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 10 November 2020 07: 55
      -2
      Armenians do not agree with this.
      1. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ 10 November 2020 10: 11
        +2
        Nobody asks them anymore
    3. Ural resident
      Ural resident 10 November 2020 09: 13
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, speaking about the agreement, which provides for the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Karabakh, said that this decision was "very difficult for him".

      Karabakh goes to Azerbaijan and de facto. The fighting spirit of the Armenians was weathered.

      The Armenian population remains in Karabakh. It is said about the return of refugees. The military is being withdrawn, yes. The rest of the territory of Karabakh will gradually be cleared of all military personnel through diplomatic means. Only the peacekeeping contingent will remain. And the adjacent areas are returned to Azerbaijan. As previously voiced by Putin.
  • Freeman
    Freeman 10 November 2020 07: 39
    +2
    It seems to me that the Turks, if they are, will be only as observers, and not as troops of separation of the opposing sides.
    Indeed, in the text of the statement on the end of the war in Karabakh, about the Turkish troops, there is not a word.
    Only the deployment of a "peacekeeping center" has been announced. IMHO
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 10 November 2020 10: 48
      0
      Turks can be given the function of observers like the OSCE ...
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 10 November 2020 07: 41
    +3
    Where is it said about the Turks ???
    Russian President Vladimir Putin, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev and Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan signed a joint statement on the complete cessation of hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh.

    A complete ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh began at 00:00 Moscow time on November 10, 2020. Russia proceeds from the fact that the agreements reached will create the necessary conditions for a long-term and full-scale settlement of the crisis around Nagorno-Karabakh in the interests of the Armenian and Azerbaijani peoples, Vladimir Putin said.

    Photo: Alexey Nikolsky / TASS
    Putin noted the efforts of Assad to establish a peaceful life in Syria
    In a statement published on the Kremlin's website, the Russian president said that the agreement provides for the return of refugees to the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh and the adjacent areas under the control of the UN High Commissioner, as well as the exchange of prisoners of war and the bodies of the dead.

    In addition, all economic ties and transport hubs will be unblocked in the region, and control over transport communications will be carried out, inter alia, with the assistance of the Russian border service authorities. Vladimir Putin also noted that a Russian peacekeeping contingent will be deployed along the contact line in Nagorno-Karabakh and along the corridor connecting the region with Armenia.

    Recall, hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh began on September 27 and continued, despite all efforts to reconcile the parties. Earlier, the Russian president expressed the hope that in this conflict it would be possible to achieve a result on a basis that would suit all people living in the region. "And to achieve this by peaceful means," Putin stressed. Russia, he said, is doing everything that depends on it so that the conflict in the South Caucasus is completed and as quickly as possible.https: //rg.ru/2020/11/10/putin-zaiavil-o-polnom-prekrashchenii- ognia-v-karabahe.html

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has confirmed that Baku and Yerevan have concluded an agreement to end the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, and that Russian peacekeepers will be deployed along the contact line. video message, confirming the message of the truce, which Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan called "painful" but necessary.
    https://www.pravda.ru/news/politics/1549292-videoobrashchenie_putina/
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 10 November 2020 07: 52
      +1
      The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan will remain smoldering for many years despite the deployment of peacekeepers ... The basis of the conflict has not been eliminated and only the neutral status of Karabakh can calm both sides.
    2. Cottager452
      Cottager452 10 November 2020 07: 56
      -3
      "... one of the points of today's statement is the joint peacekeeping mission of Russia and Turkey (I. Aliyev).
      1. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ 10 November 2020 10: 13
        +2
        Now they can at least speak. Nobody will ask them for the next 5 years
      2. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 10 November 2020 10: 33
        +4
        joint peacekeeping mission of Russia and Turkey

  • Rumblings
    Rumblings 10 November 2020 07: 44
    +5
    Georgia-Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Ukraine-LDNR, Moldova-Transnistria are looking at this and thinking intensely.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 10 November 2020 10: 53
      +3
      Not Ukraine!
      They are there now thinking, HOW to reach the border with Russia, without losing anyone from the LS, passing through the LPNR and retaining Novorossia! laughing laughing laughing
      They just forgot about 72 days during which the States cannot even jump in foreign policy movements!
  • Cottager452
    Cottager452 10 November 2020 07: 44
    -2
    In general, a section by the type of Cyprus.
    1. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 08: 14
      0
      Rather, a smooth return of the territory to Azerbaijan.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 10 November 2020 11: 00
        +1
        No return, just the implementation of the UN Security Council decision.
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 18: 48
          -1
          Can you tell me which one?
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 10 November 2020 20: 28
            +1
            It was some very old decision (it is about 30 years old).
            And what was done tonight is the signing in some strange form of a ceasefire declaration, but for some reason the refugee clause is referred to the competence of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees:
            7. Internally displaced persons and refugees are returning to the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent areas under the control of the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees.
            So the Turks in the South Caucasus lost and, I must say, with a crushing score: they did not get a single international function and nothing at all (except for the warm attitude of I. Aliyev).
            I sympathize with the Sultan and congratulate Ilham that he worked well as a subcortex about his prospects
            1. Viktor Sergeev
              Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 20: 51
              -1
              Where did the Turks lose? Maybe tell me what they wanted, I'll send Erdagan, otherwise he doesn't know.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 10 November 2020 07: 50
    +7
    The Turks won .. At least partially, they strengthened their influence in the region specifically. We can expect their appearance in the Caspian Sea .. And we must not forget that Turkey is still a NATO member .. The next move of the Sultan will obviously be an attempt to do something like this in Crimea .. By the way .. where are the UN statements regarding this agreement on the introduction of our peacekeepers? .. Obviously, it is necessary to wait for the appearance of a Turkish military base in Karabakh .. And then he will sharply make peace with the states .. - and all goals will be achieved ...
    1. V1er
      V1er 10 November 2020 08: 15
      +2
      Quote: Dikson
      an attempt to do something similar in Crimea would be seemingly obvious.

      This is very unlikely. In Crimea, there is a huge group of Russian troops, a very important strategic military and naval base, the Black Sea Fleet. According to all documents of the Russian Federation, Crimea is recognized as a subject of the Russian Federation, with all the ensuing consequences. To attack Crimea = declare war on Russia and attack St. Petersburg. The answer will be appropriate.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 10 November 2020 08: 42
        0
        .. The Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers has submitted to the Verkhovna Rada a bill allowing for the duration of hostilities to forcibly resettle Russians to certain places. The text of the document was published on the website of the Ukrainian parliament ... - do you still doubt that there will be a war in Ukraine this winter? As noted above, the scenario has already been worked out.
        1. V1er
          V1er 10 November 2020 09: 22
          +4
          I don’t need to put cons. In Ukraine, they can even declare Moscow as their own. There are Wishlist, but there is reality. The Ukrainian army is not capable of defeating the Russian army, and even if they dare to attack the Crimea, it will = attack Moscow. And the response will be tough and quick, the complete defeat of the troops and the occupation of Ukraine.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 10 November 2020 17: 33
            +2
            Quote: V1er
            And the response will be tough and quick, the complete defeat of the troops and the occupation of Ukraine.

            Occupation or liberation?
            1. V1er
              V1er 11 November 2020 06: 55
              0
              You can call it any and any terms, the total will be - the loss of the army and the state.
        2. Dikson
          Dikson 10 November 2020 09: 28
          +3
          Okay, V1er .. what if it is not Crimea, but LPR and DPR? unrecognized republics, the territory of Ukraine, .. -Does this remind you of the current situation? Abkhazia .. Ossetia? No.? And most importantly, we finally understood why we needed Syria ... - so that Erdogan became closer to us. With their tamed and trained Islamists .. Well done, right?
          1. V1er
            V1er 11 November 2020 07: 00
            0
            If the Ukrainians attack the DPR, I don't know how our leadership will behave, it is difficult to make a forecast here. As for Karabakh, our troops will be there. Our bases still remain in Armenia and Syria. It's a bad idea to be friends with the Turks, I agree with you, it will come back to haunt us.
        3. hydrox
          hydrox 10 November 2020 11: 04
          +5
          Quote: Dikson
          The Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers has submitted to the Verkhovna Rada a bill allowing for the duration of hostilities to forcibly resettle Russians to certain places.

          Do you mean concentration camps !?
          Let them just try - Ukraine in the form of a state in this situation will live no more than a day! laughing laughing
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 10 November 2020 13: 33
            -2
            Ukrainians are some crazy people ...
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 08: 16
      -7
      What kind of nonsense are you talking about? What does Karabakh have to do with the Caspian Sea? Is Azerbaijan not enough for them? Well, there will be a base in Karabakh and what, who needs it, can you tell me?
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 10 November 2020 08: 49
        +4
        Who needs a Turkish base in our underbelly? Did you accidentally come here from a culinary site? The Turkish base is the camps of Islamic barmaley who will climb into our Dagestan .. it is a lever of influence on politics in the region. And so, really, well, he climbed onto the balcony of some urk, and began to put things in order there, - so what? He does not climb to you to spend the night .. until he climbs ..))
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 18: 51
          -2
          That is, the base in Azerbaijan is somehow different from the base in Karabakh? Can you name where Russia borders on Karabakh? Is this not enough for the camps in Afghanistan for Islamism? You, as a child, look for what is so bad, Turkey is next to us.
  • askort154
    askort154 10 November 2020 07: 52
    +7
    "Sultan" has already climbed into the South Caucasus. Audacity second happiness. The West watches with gusto as the brazenly cunning Erdogan imposes his game on "flexible Putin's policy." I climbed into Syria without noise and dust, settled there, now
    in the same way, I climbed into Azeibarjan. He threw his "Syrian thugs" there, now our peacekeepers will be blown up by their mines, and the Azeybardjan media will propagate that these are Armenian tricks. Russia climbed on one more rake. We fought with terrorists at distant approaches, in Syria, now they are at our border. We need to radically change our foreign policy.
    To replace generosity, start tough intransigence.
    1. V1er
      V1er 10 November 2020 08: 16
      0
      For example, what could we do? Declare war on Azerbaijanis and take control of the entire Caucasus with our troops? What options are there?
      1. V1er
        V1er 10 November 2020 09: 24
        -1
        Correctly, why answer questions, it is better to force cons. More eloquent than all the answers. During the war, in the comments between the armies of the sofa, my rating increased from 32 to 35 thousand, and then you sculpt the minuses for me, maybe I will reach 40. How pathetic it looks.
        1. askort154
          askort154 10 November 2020 09: 59
          +2
          V1er.. Correctly, why to answer questions, it is better to force cons.

          The arrow indicates that you are addressing me. ? If so, he did not immediately answer, he was absent. What options are there? There are always options in international relations, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense, etc., exist for their choice. We are only "fans" here. Under the USSR, such a conflict was not allowed until the "tagged Misha" appeared. (I don’t dabble in cons, in principle) hi
    2. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 10 November 2020 20: 41
      +2
      ... We need to radically change our foreign policy.

      To do this, you will have to get off the couch, go to the polls and choose another president laughing
  • askort154
    askort154 10 November 2020 08: 08
    +1
    Aliyev confirmed that the peacekeeping mission in Karabakh will be Russian-Turkish

    And he apologized for the first downed Russian peacekeeping MI-24.
    Where did we go again? Into the mouth of Erdogan! fool
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 November 2020 08: 50
      +2
      Much is not clear, but Erdogan's mouth must be torn ...
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 10 November 2020 11: 12
        +3
        And Aliyev does not have any particular Sultan's officers, except perhaps a few dozen instructors.
        Only they did not study with us, so there are no warriors among them - remember how dashingly the Georgians skidded in operation 080808 - and after all, they were trained by NATO instructors.
        1. Kavkasianec
          Kavkasianec 10 November 2020 13: 23
          -1
          Stop)))
  • tagil
    tagil 10 November 2020 08: 10
    +8
    As far as I understand, the Turks got into the Caucasus and for a long time, how then will we knock them out of there?
    1. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 08: 14
      -7
      In general, the Turks have been there for a long time, Azerbaijan is their vassal. Why don't you tell them to knock them out? What did the Turks annoy you with?
      1. tagil
        tagil 10 November 2020 08: 41
        +4
        Until now, the Turks have been present in the Transcaucasia with their money, entrepreneurs, NGOs, etc. No troops were present in the Transcaucasus (exercises do not count).
        What did the Turks annoy you with?
        By the fact that the shores are beguiled, there is no Black Sea.
    2. cniza
      cniza 10 November 2020 08: 49
      +3
      Quote: Tagil
      As far as I understand, the Turks got into the Caucasus and for a long time, how then will we knock them out of there?


      Unfortunately you are right ...
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 10 November 2020 13: 27
      +2
      And we will not knock them out :: Aliyev whispers to them quietly - they will quietly clean up :: Ilham is quite a sane man, and today's events in the NGO only strengthen his "common sense". lol
    4. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 10 November 2020 20: 46
      +1
      ... As far as I understand, the Turks got into the Transcaucasus and for a long time, how then will we knock them out of there?

      Start multiplying vigorously,
      abandon labor emigrants from Central Asia, close the eastern borders and raise the standard of living of your population, only by doing this can it be possible to remove the Turk from the Transcaucasia in a hundred years laughing
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 10 November 2020 08: 13
    +1
    It is strange that Aliyev went for it. Most likely, there were movements from the Russian and Turkish side. If they took Stepanakert, everything would definitely end. Why does Aliyev even need Turkish peacekeepers on his territory? In general, Armenia is defeated, Azerbaijan has been deceived, Russia has been moved, and Turkey has climbed into this region. In Azerbaijan, Turkey was already as a partner here as a defender hi
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 10 November 2020 08: 57
      +1
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      It is strange that Aliyev went for it.

      I am also perplexed, because it remains to take Stepanakert and then the northern group of Armenians, which still held out, would have been left without the supply of ammunition and food and would have found itself in a hopeless situation. Azerbaijan would establish full control over Nagorno-Karabakh. And so, Nagorno-Karabakh is only half Azerbaijani, foreign peacekeepers will be there for at least five years, the conflict has not been resolved, part of the independent Armenian Karabakh will remain. What made Aliyev sign the agreement? the Turks also did not urge to continue the war, apparently Aliev was made a very advantageous offer, or promised very bad consequences, but this is unlikely. hi
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 10 November 2020 08: 13
    -13 qualifying.
    Everything is correct, it is high time to return Karabakh to the one who can keep it. Now the world will be provided by adult uncles, until the moment of full return of Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 10 November 2020 08: 27
      -1
      But what about the unexpectedly appeared grandfather, who strongly dislikes these adult uncles?
      "Putin knows: if I become the president of the United States, the days of his tyranny will be over" (J. Biden).
      "Biden will give courage to Turkish opposition to defeat Erdogan."
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 10 November 2020 13: 57
        +1
        The pre-election babble of an old man who reads from a prompter a text filled with the duet "Parkinson & Alzheimer" cannot be taken as a guide to action. good
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 November 2020 08: 19
    +3
    The peacekeeping mission was marked by the shooting down of a Russian helicopter .. Erdogan and Aliyev are parties to the conflict, what kind of peacekeepers are they?
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 10 November 2020 08: 20
    -6
    Karabakh is Russia. The question is closed.
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 10 November 2020 08: 20
    -3
    Quote: Victor Sergeev
    Everything is correct, it is high time to return Karabakh to the one who can keep it. Now the world will be provided by adult uncles, until the moment of full return of Karabakh to Azerbaijan.


    Karabakh - Russia, the issue is closed. The Russians will never leave there.
  • Dave36
    Dave36 10 November 2020 08: 26
    +7
    Hmm, Vova was again presented with a fact, either the entire Turkish Karabakh, or half of it, plus the turntable was landed ...
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 10 November 2020 08: 32
    +5
    If so ... Turkey has climbed into the South Caucasus. Expect trouble.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 10 November 2020 08: 35
    +3
    And his country remained a Turkish puppet, it seems that it was he who lost.
  • cniza
    cniza 10 November 2020 08: 47
    +1
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, speaking about the agreement, which provides for the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Karabakh, said that this decision was "very difficult for him".


    I suspect that he will soon lose power, despite the support of the United States ...
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 10 November 2020 09: 01
      0
      Instead of Pashinyan, they will put a frostbitten Dashnak in general and will be guarded.
      1. cniza
        cniza 10 November 2020 09: 13
        +1
        Who will deliver? and what to do next? There are no answers to these questions yet ...
  • Neutron Retarded
    Neutron Retarded 10 November 2020 08: 53
    +1
    Quote: Olgovich
    Exactly! 80 km from the border of Russia, and, in fact, on it, the Turks settled.
    The Kremlin is a fat minus.

    And if you think with your head? The Turks would have been there after the fall of Karabakh, but without us.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 10 November 2020 08: 54
    +4
    Excuse me, the question is a little off topic .. - How long has our columns been accompanied not by a couple, but by one helicopter? Who introduced this practice? Don't they always work as a couple? And if there was a couple, then why did the second not work on the ground immediately? It turns out ugly. It turns out that we set up the turntable themselves, having agreed with the Azerbaijanis, so that already with. iron arguments and a reason to enter Karabakh ..? Dirty like that. and it stinks ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 10 November 2020 09: 40
      +3
      I will add that the helicopter was shot down far from Karabakh, so there was no reason to shoot at it.
  • Ural resident
    Ural resident 10 November 2020 09: 04
    +4
    If the Turks are really there, then this is a loss for Putin. If not, then we can say that he did what he said "between the lines" on his birthday. Karabakh is behind the Armenians, Azerbaijan has 5 regions and 2 after a while. Our media do not speak about the Turks yet. most likely ours will try to "stake out" all the points themselves, and then the Turks will have nowhere to climb. They really can't be smoked out of there later, they will be dirty in the Caucasus.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 November 2020 09: 31
    0
    Turkey decided to try on the role of a peacemaker?
    Well, here they will certainly not be silent if either side decides to shoot in the wrong direction.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 November 2020 10: 25
      +3
      Rather, the Armenians will be the first to start shooting after Pashinyan is overthrown and all current agreements are canceled.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 10 November 2020 09: 47
    +3
    First of all. The feeling that many vsepalschiki are simply illiterate and cannot read. There will be no Turkish peacekeepers, the Turks will participate as observers in the reconciliation center being created. On earth, only and exclusively our troops as peacekeepers.

    Secondly. Russia, and this is just the GDP, our Defense Ministry and the Foreign Ministry, not balabols, including pro-Armenian or pro-Azerbaijani ones, and simply, so Russia has practically solved all the tasks facing it in this region. We have a presence in a third country, Transcaucasia, before having it in one form or another in two of the three (Armenia, Georgia). The problem of pro-American forces and mongrels in Armenia has been resolved (how could they be cleaned up?).

    Thirdly. At the same time, we are really saviors of the Armenians, otherwise they would have been expected to be completely defeated, we did not spoil, but only strengthened relations with Azerbaijan, we did not enter into conflict or confrontation with our neighbors Turkey or Iran, we wiped our heads off from Washington.

    Vsepalschiki and critics, or rather mediocre demagogues, what else do you need?
    1. iouris
      iouris 10 November 2020 10: 30
      +2
      Quote: Azimuth
      There will be no Turkish peacekeepers, the Turks will participate as observers in the reconciliation center being created.

      Special forces will observe and shoot down the "crocodiles", and the "observers" will braid their brains.
    2. Zomanus
      Zomanus 10 November 2020 12: 43
      0
      The Armenians will now rebel and decide that Russia is to blame for everything. After all, do not interfere, and the brave orange sellers would surely have won everyone.
    3. Petro_tut
      Petro_tut 10 November 2020 21: 22
      0
      Resolved the problem of pro-American forces and mongrels in Armenia (
      Oh well
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 10 November 2020 09: 50
    +1
    Yes, everyone has surrendered all positions Shas and Turkey will be here thanks Putin!
  • dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 10 November 2020 12: 01
    +1
    In Mineralnye Vody, one by one Ulyanovsk Il-76s sit down for refueling.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 10 November 2020 13: 01
    +2
    Quote: dmmyak40
    In Mineralnye Vody, one by one Ulyanovsk Il-76s sit down for refueling.

    Several days ago they began to prepare. There were "patriots" who, first of all, removed some of them, but the MILITARY PREPARATIONS, and also made a cry, they say, our boys are going to die for the Armenians.

    The deployment of peacekeepers, an agreement on the withdrawal of the remnants of its troops from the territory of Azerbaijan by Armenia is not a one-day negotiations, ours achieved all the goals that they set and achieved consistently, therefore both the brigade and the planes were prepared in advance.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 10 November 2020 13: 35
    +1
    Quote: Dave36
    Hmm, Vova was again presented with a fact, either the entire Turkish Karabakh, or half of it, plus the turntable was landed ...

    Quote: Lech from Android.
    All the same, the Turks were able to officially get into this region ... Now it will be problematic to squeeze them out of there ... For Erdogan, this is a success. Next in line is a similar likely scenario in the LPNR already performed by Zelensky.

    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: hrych
    and the Turks will get a donut hole,

    The Turks received a land border with Russia, because Azerbaijan owes EVERYTHING to Turkey now, in fact, a full vassal of Turkey.
    Quote: hrych
    And Russia takes Karabakh ... for itself. This is called aerobatics in geopolitics.

    This is called a complete fiasco of Russia: it received an OFFICIAL Turkish army at the border where it had not been for 100 years, as well as a bloody, senseless, costly "peacekeeping" operation

    Quote: Incvizitor
    What for RF Karabakh, that's just? But the Turks are now registered there thoroughly.
    And FSA is like plywood over Paris here, of course laughing

    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: hrych
    Wring out Karabakh, which Armenia did not dare to recognize de jure and which Azerbaijan did not dare to take de facto, is a brilliant achievement of our geopolitics and our army operation, because our units ... are already there.

    What ?! belay

    Yes Russia Will be thrown out of there and very soon there are NO levers to stay with her. I burst through. One word of the Sultan is enough, which will broadcast his poodle - and march to the exit !. And this is where her word was decisive a month ago.

    Stupid, stupid, treacherous, impotent (in relation to YOUR, first of all, interests) politics treason regarding Russia's interests in the Transcaucasus.

    They didn’t want to stop the TURKISH expansion in Karabakh WITH ANOTHER hands, so now meet the Turks and their barmolees in Dagestan and FURTHER north already purely their hands
    н
    Quote: hrych
    get ready

    For what?

    What, hasn't reached this day? To northern Cyprus, northern Syria, Karabakhs, but already on OWN territory.
    Quote: hrych
    We are a nuclear superpower and Ankara can evaporate at any moment. Remember this.

    lol laughing

    Quote: Dikson
    The Turks won .. At least partially, they strengthened their influence in the region specifically. We can expect their appearance in the Caspian Sea .. And we must not forget that Turkey is still a NATO member .. The next move of the Sultan will obviously be an attempt to do something like this in Crimea .. By the way .. where are the UN statements regarding this agreement on the introduction of our peacekeepers? .. Obviously, it is necessary to wait for the appearance of a Turkish military base in Karabakh .. And then he will sharply make peace with the states .. - and all goals will be achieved ...

    Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
    If so ... Turkey has climbed into the South Caucasus. Expect trouble.

    Quote: Dave36
    Hmm, Vova was again presented with a fact, either the entire Turkish Karabakh, or half of it, plus the turntable was landed ...


    Is that where all these come from? ... am Our victories are neither seen nor appreciated, but if they see and feel then they screw everything up. Really not a drop of love for the Motherland?
    How many of them ... how to treat them? ... Well, do you really need to be sent to labor education again as under Joseph Vissarionovich?

    Quote: Misak Hananyan
    Karabakh is Russia. The question is closed.

    Quote: Misak Hananyan
    Quote: Victor Sergeev
    Everything is correct, it is high time to return Karabakh to the one who can keep it. Now the world will be provided by adult uncles, until the moment of full return of Karabakh to Azerbaijan.

    Karabakh - Russia, the issue is closed. The Russians will never leave there.
    Thanks. Well, bring this to your stupid fellow countrymen.
    And then one has already said that the surrender of Kelbajar, the surrender of Armenia. As long as Russia is in Armenia, Armenia exists in general, and Russia will not be near, so control at least one hundred Kelbajars, but you will not have a wet place on the map.
    Armenians should draw conclusions from what happened and NEVER step on this rake again, and not behave in this way.

    Russia has two hypostases, remember our coat of arms, initially Russia is the very name of the feminine gender, she is a mother, grateful and will give a tit, and cover, and cover ... but horses can always show his second face, but he is masculine and there is only one tit ... and you yourself have just begged for it ... So now spit it, rinse the clan and the boobies, otherwise there are a lot of Azerbaijanis, you will not get anything laughing

    Under UN patronage, all refugees will return to their homes, including Azerbaijanis will return to those settlements of Karabakh, where our peacekeepers will be, and the Armenians were the majority before the war of the 90s. God forbid the Armenians will start drilling, let us down, we will cover you again and will no longer spoil relations with Azerbaijan.

    In general, it's a shame. Kazakhstan and Nazarbayev behave more evenly than the Slavs Belarus and Lukashenko, who only when the cock pecked sat down on the board, Azerbaijan and Aliyev, who is not a member of the EurAsEC or the CSTO, behaved more evenly and were more friendly to us than Armenia and Pashinyan, our CSTO ally and EurAsEc member ...
    Only for our sake, Aliyev and Azerbaijan behaved this way, performed everything clearly, did not hit the same Yerevan in response to your attacks on their cities, how did you assess it, I'm not talking about Aliyev, but about our authority at stake? The negotiations went on for several days, and when they were almost over, you hit the suburb of Baku with a missile. And if your missile missile men got somewhere? ... - all our work would go to smark, and you would simply be cut out. Take hold of your mind, sit on the platform exactly at last! And be so kind as to say this not only to your fellow countrymen in Armenia every single day, but also to those who live here. Enough in the end, or else we got used to "Russia must", but we played it out, and no matter how it was your last chance and there will never be another ...
    1. Petro_tut
      Petro_tut 10 November 2020 21: 34
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      That's where all these come from? ... am Our victories are neither seen nor appreciated, but if they see and feel, they will screw everything up. Really not a drop of love for the Motherland?

      We see, we estimate - dollar 2014-32r
      In 2020 - 75r, isolation itself instead of full-fledged quarantine, the Plato system, paid parking, video recorders of car violations like mushrooms after the rain, raising the retirement age, inflation for 20% with the announced 3-4%, an increase in housing and communal services payments, the ruin of the population, tractor caterpillars for sanctions products, the collapse of medicine, the failure of import substitution, the import of tons of palm oil, and $ 98 billionaires who have concentrated 90℅ of all Russia's wealth
      The rise in gasoline prices with a fall in oil prices,
      Palmyra was taken several times ...
      1. Azimuth
        Azimuth 10 November 2020 21: 57
        -1
        The exchange rate of the national currency to the main world currencies and its purchasing power in the domestic market are two different things. Plus, let me remind you, a small nuance, almost the entire economy is in the hands of your liberals. Only in the words and fables of the liberals is Putin omnipotent. Why are these fables to them? - the answer is obvious to shift responsibility. "Putin is a thief"? - Well, not an angel for sure, show the angels ... Does the population honestly pay taxes? Let's get some garlic. When the amounts are compared, how much the population officially earned and how much spent, for some reason there is no balance ... Contrary to elementary arithmetic, it turns out that they earned and took out less loans than they spent - how so? ... But you need to collect money? - it is necessary, so they are collected as possible and without revolutions.

        How did the population lived in the 90s? ... Let's compare?

        Gasoline has risen in price when oil prices fell ... oh, yay, probably all the cars were put on a joke? Has the number of traffic jams decreased? See above about taxes.

        They took Palmyra - a fact. Then did our troops stay there? Did our troops kick us out of Palmyra? There, our army screwed up, our officer raised his paws in the mountains to metal beads in front of the barmaley, or caused fire on himself?
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 10 November 2020 13: 52
    +1
    There will be no Turks in NKR, there will be a Russian-Turkish monitoring center on the territory of Azerbaijan within the framework of a separate agreement.
  • flicker
    flicker 10 November 2020 15: 10
    +3
    The agreement of the three parties is required. Armenia will under no circumstances agree to the Turkish peacekeepers.
    ---
    Turkey, of course, really wanted to drop into this agreement, Erdogan called Putin so often ... but they could not ...
    Moreover, the helicopter looks like the conscience of the party that wanted to disrupt these agreements.

    And it may very well be in Turkish.
    ---
    Azerbaijan, I am sure, paid them generously for help.
    So the Turks can be free ... they are tired of waiting in Libya ... in Cyprus ... in Greece.
    ---
    The Russian Foreign Ministry has already made a speech and said that the Turkish peacekeepers were not invented by the agreement.
    ---
    The Turks thought that the most cunning, they wanted to squeeze oil and gas from Azerbaijanis and thus replenish the Turkish treasury. Will not work.
    1. Icarus
      Icarus 10 November 2020 18: 30
      -2
      The Russian Foreign Ministry has already made a speech and said that the Turkish peacekeepers are not invented by the agreement

      And who will prevent the Turks from entering from Azerbaijan, at the invitation of the legitimate government, and placing themselves between our peacekeepers and the Azerbaijani Armed Forces?
      1. flicker
        flicker 10 November 2020 20: 41
        +2
        And who will prevent the Turks from entering from Azerbaijan
        Three-party agreement.
        Between Azerbaijan, Armenia and Russia.
        ---
        Where is Turkey in this agreement?
        All three parties must confirm. If at least one side is against, then it can block.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 10 November 2020 17: 29
    -2
    It is clear that the Russian Turkish ... All sides should nod.
    Our Jewish business is generally small here. Show your weapon systems in combat conditions ..
  • Icarus
    Icarus 10 November 2020 18: 25
    0
    This night, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said in his address that one of the clauses of the agreement on the cessation of hostilities refers to the introduction of Turkish troops into Nagorno Karabakh, in addition to the Russian peacekeeping contingent, who will interact with Russian peacekeepers.

    Generally speaking, the deployment of peacekeepers requires the consent of both parties to the conflict. I doubt that Pashinyan would have signed this (out of a sense of self-preservation). This means that if the Turks enter, the Armenians will have the right to commit sabotage against them, since they did not call them. The Turks will answer, ours will not allow the Turks to physically go beyond the demarcation line, then the Turks will strike at the Armenians from the air. There should be no peace in this situation. Ours will also get into the batch. IMHO.
    Where will all this lead? Unpredictable. In this situation, our peacekeepers have nothing to do there, since it will be impossible to do as in 2008.
  • Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 10 November 2020 19: 07
    +2
    "The press secretary of the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan Mane Gevorgyan denied the information that Turkish peacekeepers will be involved in Nagorno Karabakh. The document has been officially published and you can familiarize yourself with it. The press secretary wrote, noting that the text of the statement on military action does not contain provisions on Turkish peacekeepers. "Who's lying?
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 November 2020 20: 31
    +1
    I read it carefully again. I have not found any mention of Turkish peacekeepers anywhere. And where did Aliyev get it?
  • flicker
    flicker 10 November 2020 20: 33
    +2
    If the entry of the Turkish military into Karabakh takes place,
    Will not take place.
    No need to speculate.
    THREE-SIDE Agreement.
    I list for ...: Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia.
    ---
    Where is Turkey?
    1. Petro_tut
      Petro_tut 10 November 2020 21: 37
      0
      Where is Turkey?
      ask Aliyev, he will tell you more precisely
      1. flicker
        flicker 10 November 2020 21: 50
        +1
        ask Aliyev
        firstly, there is no such possibility.
        Secondly, you don't need to ask him.
        The agreement is THREE-Sided and Turkey is not there. Those. agreement of all three parties is required.
        It is not for nothing that Turkey wanted to be 4-sided, and it really wanted ... that's just broken off.
        And Aliyev thanked Turkey, and Turkey's political efforts in resolving the conflict.
        It is not clear only what are the political efforts of Turkey? The fact that he put a good part of his special forces and remained on the sidelines? laughing
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 10 November 2020 21: 59
    0
    Quote: Icarus
    The Russian Foreign Ministry has already made a speech and said that the Turkish peacekeepers are not invented by the agreement

    And who will prevent the Turks from entering from Azerbaijan, at the invitation of the legitimate government, and placing themselves between our peacekeepers and the Azerbaijani Armed Forces?

    Why? ... try to ask yourself questions and answer them at the beginning.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 10 November 2020 23: 13
    0
    https://topwar.ru/176959-marija-zaharova-oprovergaet-dannye-o-razmeschenii-tureckih-voennyh-vmeste-s-rossijskimi-mirotvorcami-v-karabahe.html

    article trash
    ps time is money - the article is really rubbish, the author prove the opposite if you can !!!
  • My_log_in
    My_log_in 11 November 2020 18: 05
    0
    As if someone Peskov, in an interview published on RIA.RU, said that this is only about interaction with a certain Turkish center deployed on the territory of Azerbaijan and no more. There is no talk of any entry of Turkish troops into the territory of Karabakh. (non-verbal quote). Did someone lie?
  • Charik
    Charik 11 November 2020 18: 07
    0
    I immediately thought that this mix is ​​mutilated from the turkey
  • Charik
    Charik 11 November 2020 18: 12
    0
    in short, shit like that, in the Voronezh region, "rubbish" is fed up for urgent training and sending to Karabakh, and "rubbish" is unprofitable, in a small town all his life Police Inspector of the Road Service
    1. tralmaster
      tralmaster 14 November 2020 17: 06
      -1
      And the devils here from what else have shoulder straps.
      1. Charik
        Charik 14 November 2020 17: 27
        0
        They gave the devil shoulder straps, they rob people on the roads
  • tralmaster
    tralmaster 14 November 2020 17: 05
    -1
    Now there will definitely be another war in Donbas.
  • Artura
    Artura 14 November 2020 22: 09
    0
    No Turkish troops will be there. They will have a focal point in Baku.