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"The incident is not directed against Russia": Azerbaijan admitted that it shot down a Russian helicopter

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"The incident is not directed against Russia": Azerbaijan admitted that it shot down a Russian helicopter

Official Baku acknowledged that the Russian Mi-24 helicopter was shot down by the Azerbaijani side. This is stated in the statement of the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry.


The foreign ministry of the republic said that the helicopter was shot down by accident, Azerbaijan expresses its condolences, apologizes to the Russian side and is ready to pay compensation. At the same time, it is emphasized that this incident is in no way directed against Russia.

The Azerbaijani side apologizes to the Russian side in connection with this tragic incident, which is accidental and was not directed against the Russian side.

- said in a statement.

The Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry explained that the Russian helicopter flew in close proximity to the Azerbaijani-Armenian border during active hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh.

The helicopter flight took place in the dark, at low altitude and outside the radar detection zone of air defense equipment. (...) Russian helicopters have not previously been seen in the area where the incident occurred

- said in a statement.

Earlier, the Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed the loss of the Mi-24 helicopter, which accompanied the convoy of the 102nd Russian military base through the territory of Armenia in the airspace near the Armenian settlement of Yeraskh near the border of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic. The helicopter was shot down by MANPADS in the airspace of Armenia outside the combat zone.

As a result of the missile hit, the helicopter lost control and fell in a mountainous area on the territory of Armenia. Two crew members died, one was evacuated with moderate injuries to the home airfield

- said the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov.

The footage is presented, the signature of which claims that they are the very same attack on the Russian rotorcraft:


If this video is indeed from the place of the strike on the Russian Mi-24, then the question arises: what is the reason for the fact that the cameraman pointed the lens in advance to where the rocket eventually hit the helicopter?

Baku does not specify what caused the Azerbaijani mistake. According to the latest information, "could have been mistaken for an Armenian Air Force helicopter."

Now it is worth waiting for the comments of the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Foreign Ministry on what happened - I mean Moscow's reaction to the recognition by the Azerbaijani side.
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  1. Sauron80
    Sauron80 9 November 2020 20: 58
    110
    The reaction of our Foreign Ministry to such a confession is interesting. Or will it be like a joke - the bride's honor has been restored, the rapist has apologized?
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 9 November 2020 21: 02
      42
      For the loss of the helicopter, the death of two people and the injury of one of the crew members, including the base command, which did not ensure the safety of the departure, should be held responsible.
      1. Old tanker
        Old tanker 9 November 2020 21: 11
        -33 qualifying.
        How did all the couch warriors want to rush to the war? Would you like to avenge the dead guys, take machine guns in your hands and take revenge on Azerbaijanis forward. Two dead are not enough for you? For the fucking distant Karabakh not needed by Russia, they are ready to put more Russian heads! I'm sorry for the boys. But I hope this will be the first and last Russian victim in this non-our war.
        1. Graz
          Graz 9 November 2020 21: 13
          37
          Old tanker
          what guys? , missile strike and in calculation
          1. Old tanker
            Old tanker 9 November 2020 21: 19
            -37 qualifying.
            That is, as in the market, in the calculation. Oh well. We still lacked an exchange of missile strikes with Azerbaijan.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 9 November 2020 22: 24
              40
              Formerly the Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed the loss of the Mi-24 helicopter, who accompanied the convoy of the 102nd Russian military base through the territory of Armenia in the airspace near the Armenian settlement of Yeraskh near the border of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic. The helicopter was shot down by MANPADS in the airspace of Armenia outside the combat zone.

              Who is it from Azerbaijan who fired from MANPADS at the Mi-24 in the airspace of Armenia outside the combat zone?
              Certainly not Turkish mercenary fighters, who do not care what and where to destroy, if only they can get them for it and make money?
              What a mess in the Azerbaijani troops ?!
              1. vlad106
                vlad106 9 November 2020 23: 48
                -12 qualifying.
                Perhaps this is a prepared provocation of the Armenians. they are masters of mischief and drawing Russia into their game
                1. Vsepomni
                  Vsepomni 10 November 2020 07: 13
                  +1
                  There is not a single Russian among the crew. All three are Armenians. It looks like a setup
            2. Rostov Papa
              Rostov Papa 9 November 2020 23: 16
              -8
              The tanker is right,
            3. raw174
              raw174 9 November 2020 23: 51
              11
              Quote: Old Tankman
              We still lacked an exchange of missile strikes with Azerbaijan.

              No, there is no need for war, there is no need for casualties, but to land a dozen - another drones are needed, for the edification ... With the help of electronic warfare or air defense, it does not matter.
              1. Eug
                Eug 10 November 2020 07: 15
                +5
                The market "diaspora" should be properly dispossessed in favor of the families of the victims, whose memory will eternal ... but this is not easy for those who already milk this diaspora all the time. Well, how is it - to give money from your pocket to someone?
                1. raw174
                  raw174 10 November 2020 08: 15
                  -1
                  Quote: Eug
                  The market "diaspora" should be properly dispossessed in favor of the families of the victims,

                  And this is banditry! Not a state approach and not correct in essence. Market traders should not be responsible for the military or anyone else ...
                  1. Eug
                    Eug 10 November 2020 09: 26
                    +6
                    Shoot down someone else's helicopter over someone else's territory - not banditry? The state to pay pensions to the families of the victims (eternal memory) - the treasury will not become poorer? And "dispossession" is an answer in a language they understand. Not exclusive and "additions".
                    1. raw174
                      raw174 10 November 2020 14: 29
                      +1
                      Quote: Eug
                      Shoot down someone else's helicopter over someone else's territory - not banditry?

                      No. A war crime, an act of terrorism, a mistake, an attempt to involve in a war, you can name many things, depending on the motive of the act, but not banditry - for sure. Above, I have outlined my position with regard to a possible answer, and sliding down to the level of a gopnik is a very bad idea ...
            4. Garri
              Garri 10 November 2020 00: 42
              -8
              You are not an old tanker, you are an old fuck
            5. RealPilot
              RealPilot 10 November 2020 01: 07
              15
              Colleagues, good evening.

              Terribly sorry for our helicopter guys! It really hurts ... And it is necessary to understand this story, undoubtedly, to punish the guilty. Calm, inevitable and ruthless.

              But as I read this, and I think ... And who benefits from it?

              It is already clear that Azerbaijan shot down. And they apologize, they say they didn't want to. You can try to believe in this, they have no motives to drag Russia into the war. Erdogan offers Putin plans for a peace process, he would keep what he took in this war, and not clash with Russia ...

              Or maybe these are third forces?

              For example, the internal enemies of Erdogan to frame him? Operators with cameras were already waiting - the handwriting is similar.

              What if these are Aliyev's internal enemies - for his "too soft" position? To burn all bridges and fight in full.

              Or was it someone in Armenia who leaked the flight route data, said that there would be an Armenian turntable and a convoy? And the Azerbaijanis took a bite. But what if? You can't see it at night ... But in losing Armenia, there are quite a few who want to drag Russia into the war. Plus, Soros' advisers, surrounded by Pashinyan, may want to push their heads against the two "hated dictators" Putin and Erdogan.

              I don't know, these are just thoughts. But who knows, it might be a false flag operation, as the CIA puts it ...

              Do not judge strictly, I do not blame anyone. There may simply be additional variables in this equation.
              1. Guards turn
                Guards turn 10 November 2020 01: 54
                +5
                About today's incident in the sky of Armenia
                Today in Armenia at about 18:30 local time near the village of Yeraskh a Russian attack helicopter Mi-24 (unofficially called "crocodile") was shot down from a MANPADS (portable anti-aircraft missile system). "Twenty-four" accompanied a convoy of Russian military (according to our source - Russian paratroopers).
                According to our information, the Russians were heading to Goris (a city located 170 km from Yeraskh, on the very border with Artsakh). The Russians arrived in Goris over the weekend. Their exact number is not known, their tasks are not obvious (our source in the Artsakh Defense Ministry covertly called them "long-awaited peacekeepers"), but the Russian "turntable" was accompanying just another column of Russians when it was shot down.
                By the way, since Friday, November 6, Goris was “closed” to the press - the groups of Russian journalists leaving Stepanakert were no longer getting out through Goris, but along a bypass dirt road passing in the area of ​​Lake Sevan. Of course, the presence of Russians could not be a surprise for Turkish and Azerbaijani intelligence services. and, quite likely, they "got on their ears."
                The Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry said today that the incident took place "in the light of the tense situation in the region and heightened combat readiness in connection with the possible provocations of the Armenian side." According to our information, an additional contingent of Russian peacekeepers should be expected to arrive in Armenia in the near future in the interests of enforcing peace on all involved in the conflict of the parties.
                1. KAVBER
                  KAVBER 10 November 2020 04: 16
                  0
                  They are already arriving, the spinner is a probing of our intentions, although after 2008, only a dead-end cancer can kill our peacekeepers.
              2. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 10 November 2020 02: 08
                +1
                Common comment ... RealPilot.
            6. ArhipenkoAndrey
              ArhipenkoAndrey 10 November 2020 05: 17
              +1
              Of course, it's easier to wipe off, but we are no stranger to, but we don't need to gouge, we need to make sure that the Turks and Azerbaijanis are afraid to look towards the Russians and Russia, then there will be complete harmony, and so we are waiting for the next "apologies" from the Turkish-Azerbaijani team for killed Russians.
            7. Yngvar
              Yngvar 10 November 2020 06: 06
              +8
              Do you think that what should be done with the Su-24 shot down by the Turks - can you pay with tomatoes? The script is about the same, the scriptwriters are the same! In Asia, they only understand the principle of "eye for an eye"! Otherwise they will be considered weaklings! Respect only those who can fight back and respond adequately!
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 9 November 2020 21: 41
            21
            off el \ energy Food City. supposedly belongs to Azeris - there will be losses - mother will burn. and so all over Russia off for Azerbadzhans
            1. the finish
              the finish 9 November 2020 21: 50
              42
              Thoughts from one TG analyst:
              The downing of the Mi-24 was not an accidental event. They prepared it, studied the activities of our military at the Gyumri base, the flight schedule of aviation, they knew about the military convoy. The calculation of MANPADS took an advantageous position (practically hitting at close range), and the spectators from Nakhichevan took their places in the stalls.
              Let me remind you that Azerbaijan is not a NATO member. Therefore, the answer must be tough. It was different with Turkey, a NATO member, and it shouldn't be like that with Azerbaijan.
              Russia's response to the planned and orchestrated provocation of Azerbaijan (not without the participation of Turkey and its patrons, the Anglo-Saxons) - must be tough and inevitable.
              Rubicon passed!
              1. MTN
                MTN 9 November 2020 21: 56
                -34 qualifying.
                Quote: finish
                Thoughts from one TG analyst:

                Isn't the analyst Pegov from WarGonzo by chance?

                We look at the map and photo.




                If it is not strange for you that a Russian helicopter flies almost at the border with Azerbaijan at night (instead of flying northward next to the road) without notifying the Azerbaijani side, then I have no words.

                I have questions. Why does it fly at low altitudes on the border with Azerbaijan, and even into darkness? With MANPADS hit from the city of Sadarak in Nakhichevan. Who dictated this route? There are many questions. But in any case, the answers will not return life, for my part I can say I'm very sorry. My condolences to the family members of the pilots. But all the same there is a sediment in my soul that this is a provocation. Especially to drag Russia into the war.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 00
                  13
                  Yes, you are not sorry! Tears are crocodile ...
                2. Garris199
                  Garris199 9 November 2020 22: 05
                  61
                  I find it strange that they shoot down a helicopter that did not violate borders and did not commit aggressive actions. Or do you now need to ask permission to fly in "your" sky? Don't want to get a Caliber on the head by mistake? We will also apologize later, of course.
                  1. MTN
                    MTN 9 November 2020 22: 13
                    -37 qualifying.
                    Quote: Garris199
                    I find it strange that they shoot down a helicopter that did not violate borders and did not commit aggressive actions.

                    Igor, now there is a war. Armenians are already openly talking about hitting the Mingachevir reservoir, says a PACE deputy and member https://haqqin.az/news/193484
                    They lost Karabakh and many Armenian officials say that the water should be poisoned. They say that we are not in Karabakh, not you. Azerbaijan is in combat mode along the entire border. I am even sure that you know that cunning Armenians are ready for any provocation. And here at night the helicopter flies, right over the border. The Azerbaijani side does not see the road along which the military convoy is traveling, and if there is such a thing, at least it is necessary to inform that they will fly, but on the map above you can see the deviation from the road. I do not know what to think, is it a mistake of an idiot soldier or is it sabotage .......... in any case, the Foreign Ministry on behalf of Azerbaijan admitted the mistake and deeply regrets it. But your side also needs to understand this issue.

                    I'm sorry about one thing. The war is going on between Armenia and Azerbaijan and people are dying from 3 countries (sorry.
                    1. nobody75
                      nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 21
                      +7
                      Do you keep bullying? Did I understand you correctly?
                    2. StarTroopers
                      StarTroopers 9 November 2020 22: 27
                      +7
                      In the 21st century, such impudence is simply prohibitive. Don't you know the UN charter? In general, the aggression of one country must be suppressed. And it doesn’t matter, they admitted they didn’t admit it, this is chicanery. That is, now you can reason like this, let's attack the neighbors?
                      1. silver_roman
                        silver_roman 10 November 2020 00: 08
                        0
                        Only the lazy didn't give a damn about the UN.
                        And de jure Azerbaijan is at war with its territory, recognized by Armenia. so what's the question? The situation is out of the ordinary and conventional approaches do not work.
                      2. StarTroopers
                        StarTroopers 11 November 2020 20: 09
                        -1
                        How does Azerbaijan consider Karbakh its territory?
                    3. Eug
                      Eug 10 November 2020 07: 22
                      0
                      Just about ... let's just say - Russian missiles were supposed to hit training targets in the Caspian Sea, but "lost their course" and, as a result of a technical malfunction, were transferred to oil platforms
                  2. AĞGURD
                    AĞGURD 9 November 2020 23: 09
                    -38 qualifying.
                    we are ready
                    dear MTN, what are you discussing and justifying yourself with hysterics ... this is decided by the commander-in-chief, etc. ... how they want to, let them understand ... what tone they want, I'm sure ours are ready to speak ... ours were sorry and explained ... the choice is theirs ... we are ready
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 9 November 2020 23: 44
                      +6
                      Quote: AĞGURD
                      ours were sorry and explained ... the choice is theirs ... we are ready

                      Eh, daragoy man-wolf! Do you seriously think that apology alone is enough?
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                    3. AĞGURD
                      AĞGURD 10 November 2020 01: 54
                      -22 qualifying.
                      Why do all the wolves do not give you rest in the Caucasus and Turkey ?! Yes, they wander around, everyone has such great feelings, the strong say we, the owners, threaten right to left .... but for God's sake ..... we are Caucasians or Turks or the Turks are happy for the neighbors ... if we didn’t want so many centuries, we wouldn’t help you, didn’t support you, didn’t quarrel because of you, I just want to remind some that we never asked for anything in return and didn’t need anything .... glory to the Almighty thanks to him and our friendship (Turkic-speaking) 3000 years of history we are writing ... and many peoples became countries thanks to us and many were punished either by us or by Vҫevshny for unfavorable betrayal or show-off .... it is ugly to behave like that in front of elders .... about wolves it is so for example, unlike a lion and a bear, which are always in the hands of either competitors or traitors or enemies, and we have a large flock of friends from Europe to Asia ... except for the Almighty, we are not afraid of anything ...
                    4. Lynx2000
                      Lynx2000 10 November 2020 02: 11
                      +8
                      Quote: AĞGURD
                      Why do all the wolves haunt you in the Caucasus and Turkey ?! but they wander around, all sorts of themselves feel great, the strong say we, the owners, threaten right to left .... but for God's sake ..... we are Caucasians or Turks or the Turks are happy for the neighbors ... if we didn’t want to help you for so many centuries, we didn’t support you, we didn’t quarrel because of you, I just want to remind some that we never asked for anything in return and didn’t need anything ... glory to God thanks to him our friendship (Turkic-speaking) 3000 years of history we are writing ... and many peoples became countries thanks to us and many were punished either by us or by Vҫevshny for unfavorable betrayal or show-off ... it is ugly to behave in front of elders .... for example, unlike a lion and a bear, which are always in the hands of either competitors or traitors or enemies with us and the flock is large from Europe to Asia, there are much more friends ...

                      Well, the bear is not always the first to attack. By analogy with previous world wars, one should not go into a den.
                      In this case, there was no reason for the destruction of the Mi-24 transport and combat helicopter of the RF Ministry of Defense. According to the current international legal norms in relation to armed conflicts of a non-international character, all actions of parties to conflicts in relation to non-combatants, as well as to representatives of the armed forces of another state not party to the conflict, premeditated / manslaughter, damage / destruction of property, etc., are not those caused by military necessity fall under war crimes.
                      Did the helicopter make a combat turn, or at least perform an imitation of a combat approach?
                      I did not see anything like it on the video. I do not think that they were shot down out of fright without understanding. The MANPADS shooter does not act alone, there is an observation post, a command is given.
                      Regarding the assistance you indicated, I can also declare that we, together with other 14 republics, helped you.
                      I have Russian, German, Polish and Tatar blood mixed in, I don't punch myself in the chest ... There is a country in which I was born, I swore an oath in the army, in the authorities, regardless of nationality, I must defend.

                      How many Turkic peoples fought among themselves? The larger the pack, the worse the wolves get along in it. The wolf is an intelligent and loyal animal. Rarely kills for fun. Takes so much to feed.
                    5. AĞGURD
                      AĞGURD 10 November 2020 02: 44
                      -8
                      handsome very good .. literate answer ..
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                    7. AĞGURD
                      AĞGURD 10 November 2020 09: 33
                      -6
                      “How many Turkic peoples fought among themselves? The larger the flock, the worse the wolves get along in it. ”Not dear, they live well, just unfortunately for the neighbors, or let's say some of the inhabitants of this world managed to drag us into their adventures or play us off against each other .... and wolves are a proud animal, that's result...
                    8. Lynx2000
                      Lynx2000 10 November 2020 09: 49
                      +1
                      Doubtful ... Starting with internal squabbles between the Seljuks. Wars of the Seljuks with Tamerlane. Dzungar Wars. Ethnic conflicts in Central Asia. Have you forgotten the massacre in Fergana?
                      Quote: AĞGURD
                      They live well, just unfortunately for the neighbors, or let's say some of the inhabitants of this world managed to draw us into their adventures or play us off against each other

                      The Great Wars began with approximately these slogans.
                      We are kind people, hard-working people, but we live badly, because the neighbors .... shit.

                      I noticed such a feature that people who have gone through the war (no matter military or civilian) are divided by their views on life and its meaning into two extreme opposites:
                      1. Fierce, with a thirst for revenge, contempt for human life, ready to solve any problems only by war and destruction.
                      2. It is difficult to determine - whether pacified or something (not pacifists), try to resolve conflicts peacefully, by compromise, take into account the opinion of the opposite side.
                    9. AĞGURD
                      AĞGURD 11 November 2020 20: 13
                      0
                      about life, I can not complain, we live normally, the people are hardworking, friendly, hospitable, respect customs, polite, albeit proud, but before the weak it does not manifest itself in front of the weak, this is only an extreme case, but then already with the consequences ... and the consequences are listed above. war., so basically we try to agree ... about the neighbors, you can only complain about two people one gigimonist
                    10. AĞGURD
                      AĞGURD 11 November 2020 20: 52
                      0
                      about 1) fierce avengers and 2) pozifists ... and after thinking over your look, I agreed ... it seems to me that both of us concern ... reason 1) fierce revengeful for unrighteousness ... the pen is probably a Turkic somewhere Caucasian where, oh, where the bitterness of the steppe disposition (as the wolf disposition is called), somewhere pride, stubbornness, stubborn I will not read everything,
                      2) not just because, most of all, religiosity, patience, understanding, sympathy, the laws of the Almighty, and customs have brought us to this ... well, you should take an example according to custom three times if even a blood enemy comes to that steam ... you should like at least three to hear in justification of the blood enemy if they come ...
                      the main thing is to act wisely and not rush headlong on emotions or provocations
                    11. AĞGURD
                      AĞGURD 11 November 2020 22: 26
                      -1
                      “The Great Wars began with approximately these slogans.
                      We are kind people, hard-working, but we live badly, because the neighbors ... are shitty. "
                      at the expense of life we ​​do not complain Glory to the Almighty we can even boast, and not only to the Soviet republics ...
                      but having close friends from 76 countries, some even fraternal and in addition to 32 partnerships, we have two neighbors, one is gigantic (wants to become) who has neither friends nor brothers, only a few vozals and then they are connected by a thread (they rather use them than he does them) and leash several Turkic countries that turned to him as a partner on whose lands he once found shelter, then swore and then betrayed because of Western interests ... but we hope that he will understand “it's better to have a friend than to have another friend”,
                      the other loves freebies, he achieved his existence thanks to toadying (daban yaliyanrlar-licking heels "dogs.dogs") cunning, lies, betrayal, duplicity, provocation, bitter tears of the offender, attributing ancient peoples, territories and their glory to themselves ... these are usually used and then they reject such rejection by the Balkans, then there was rejection in the south by the Turkic and Grzin ethnos, probably the time will come and the gigimon, like their previous owners, will use them and their weaker sex will also reject ... well, what can you do, their ancient blood is not so young as for all mankind ... since the time of the dinosaurs ..
                3. AĞGURD
                  AĞGURD 10 November 2020 10: 12
                  -4
                  about the downed helicopter, find out soon ... take your time ... there may be traitors or supporters of kokai or positions among the military personnel ... this is a long story ... I will say in short ... we have a part of the population, especially Karabkhs in family ties with Armenians or Kurds many pretend to be Azeri, Turks, Iranians, etc., ... even on the first day, they cannot hide their intentions in social networks, they have already started poisoning us with peacekeepers ... you cannot imagine what nasty things they are doing .. they live here happily eat bread with us and behind our backs .... you should be familiar with this too
          3. silver_roman
            silver_roman 10 November 2020 00: 05
            +7
            Mtn speaks to the point, but don't you forget too. If in Russia there were the same hot heads like Erdogan, in front of whom you are spreading, then in the near future there would be no trace of your aircraft. But thank God there people think with their heads. We need to figure it out, weigh everything. and you here are trying to throw a show-off. they are ready ... what are you ready for?
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          5. Gepard
            Gepard 10 November 2020 04: 30
            -1
            You can feel knowledge from your own practice.
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          7. Garris199
            Garris199 10 November 2020 06: 01
            -1
            Quote: Gepard
            Feels

            Hold on.
      2. AĞGURD
        AĞGURD 10 November 2020 01: 21
        -20 qualifying.
        besides, if there is a conversation, we say ... there is nothing to threaten or offend here .... you think once there are rockets and the country is big, you can poke and swing rockets ... we are not Armenians ... understand ..... silver this is me to the comments that the poets suggest here (they are not even Russians, probably)
      3. Bessik
        Bessik 10 November 2020 07: 44
        0
        Have you gone far from the Armenians in military affairs?
        Do not turn up your nose, otherwise it will hurt your nose!
      4. AĞGURD
        AĞGURD 11 November 2020 08: 49
        -2
        bessik ... we have always been in the share in the military and not only among the Armenians ... and our history gives me every right to say so ... and just give me an example from modern battles which army took the city on top of the mountain with a bayonet and a pistol .....?
        by the way, I don’t turn my nose up ... I give it myself ...
      5. Bessik
        Bessik 12 November 2020 07: 25
        0
        What's your story? If you are talking about Turkish, then I'm afraid to upset you, out of 17 nose-ups, all 17 times the Turks received it
  2. purple
    purple 10 November 2020 14: 17
    -1
    ChSV got up? Azerbaijanis have always been so-so ... the story of MI-24 confirmed this, quietly from under the bush ... and then I swear by my mother.
    Who needs to remember ... with "wolves" to live like a wolf howl ... current you are not wolves ... more like jackals
  3. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 11 November 2020 21: 10
    -2
    no matter how you howl, you will not become wolves, at best, you will be a breed of wolves and not even hyenas and not even jackals, maximum dogs,
    and usually the word jackals call wolves out of despair and despair of prey ...
  4. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 11 November 2020 21: 33
    -2
    firstly, it was not bushes, but the position about the second, what did you want to hear or what do you provoke.? .. ml correctly and did it, do not get underfoot .... or cowardly reject ... this is not us ... please .. they said the same in the forehead ... yeah, we knocked out with confused with Armenian, so what ..? or should we be afraid to shoot down an Armenian helicopter ...? and so that we do not doubt our sincerity, we said we will punish the culprit ... we ourselves wonder who and how and why .... 44 days having the opportunity to level the whole of Armenia from the Nakhichevan side, we do not have a single technique from the beaten which from the territory of Armenia bombed not the combat territories of Azerb. and suddenly a peace treaty is signed and 2-3 hours pass at once the helicopter is killed ..... you think we are least of all interested in this movement ....?
  5. passerby
    passerby 10 November 2020 04: 45
    -1
    Quote: silver_roman
    they are ready ... what are you ready for?

    Apologies, accept. It's a normal practice when Russians are killed, and then they say - sorry. The helicopter was shot down in the skies of Armenia, a member of the CSTO 200 km away. from the war zone, and now they say - sorry. It turns out that it is possible, and then we still sign some kind of agreement with those who killed the Russian pilots again.
  6. Vsepomni
    Vsepomni 10 November 2020 07: 20
    0
    It looks like a game. Politics is a dirty thing. Maybe it was so planned out. Although the crew was all Armenian. Not a single Russian.
  7. silver_roman
    silver_roman 10 November 2020 10: 23
    0
    What do you think should be done? Shoot like the last hysterical girl with calibers left and right? As we already know, there was a rotation of troops to prepare for the entry of peacekeepers. The question is, did Azerbaijan know about this when it knocked down the bear? It seems to me that he did not know. Because, well, there is no logic for the Azerbaijanis to want to shoot down a helicopter. All these cool versions like "show the RF who is in charge" is all nonsense. It is so easy for hysterics to thirst for blood from the couch, but at the level of decision-making there are no hysterics. My version is that the Russian Federation began to transfer units of peacekeepers to the NKR, without notifying the authorities of Azerbaijan and others about it. Perhaps the top and knew, but did not have time to inform the units of the Armed Forces. So they fired at the "Armenian" helicopter. There, in parts, "hot" heads serve, as a rule, without brains. Azerbaijan could have come up with any version of anything, but immediately admitted its guilt, undertook obligations to punish those responsible and pay compensation. What should the Russian Federation do in such a situation? Send calibers to Azerbaijani bases? You can only fart from the sofa, but to press the "red button" you need big eggs, will and complete information. So go valerian drink and calm down, couch warriors with a wounded personal EGO.
    Everyone is like, "what if an American helicopter were shot down?" The Jews got out and sank American ships and, in general, what just happened. This is a war, a lot of unpredictable things happen on it. It's a pity for the pilots of the bear. I repeat that this is a personal tragedy for their families. But this is not a reason to scatter mockery. In general, peace has been signed, there is a mess in Armenia, peacekeepers have entered. Everything would be fine, but only here the Turks somehow figure in this case, which is not good and of course the siege / ok from the helicopter remained. God grant, peace will reign on the land of NKR.
  8. purple
    purple 10 November 2020 14: 19
    +1
    there will never be peace in the NKR. here you need tough external management ... as in the USSR.
    then there will be peace. That the Armenians, that the Azerbaijanis are wild people, the children of the mountains ... understand only strength
  9. Garris199
    Garris199 10 November 2020 05: 37
    +1
    what are you ready for?
    be punished in an uncomfortable position.
  10. AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 12 November 2020 02: 12
    -1
    you yourself crawl under the Armenian foreheads and their money and become the podobluchniks of Armenian women ... you behave like .... completely already to the point of non-grandeur, completely lost, no matter how much you help, no matter how much you support, gratitude is zero ... I'm not even interested your publications, but what are you ready for ...? to all yours and anyone else's show-off to answer.
    Didn't you come running, let's create the CIS when NATO pressed .. ??, didn't you come running CSTO to our friendship to climb frightened of loneliness among the acquired enemies around having wrought lawlessness in the 90s in the Baltic States in Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, for money from Armenian terrorists staged a genocide for the Azerb people .. ?? it turns out that you then made a bed under us .. ?? or at 41-45 the Germans and a few months before Stolinad and Moscow, you asked for help from 14 republics, does this mean then that you are fasting under us ..? would not help the Almighty alone knows what you would be called now (not Roman - but Rikhord), we have more pride and courage than yours, and we have at least your history with our example ... Türkic history and its possessions and skills to fight for almost 3000 years, mei has something to be proud of and the reason is not afraid of anyone,
    What can you boast about, ..? ahh yes, having betrayed Khan Mamai Kulikovo, they staged a battle, who waged a war in the east and whose ancestors of the Nevskoy made a prince and helped the Swedes to win ...? , ... ahh yes 350,000 regular army with 10,000 Chechen army having lost 120,000 soldiers not to mention tkheniku how many years fought ...?
    3 years that you and the Armenians and terrorists from Syria, Libya, Beirut, Kurds and Iran did not stand aside from us, which did not have an army or equipment, we seized the land in 40 days, and do not say that you did not triner them and did not prepared. 28 years you took off joint exercises conducted and provided equipment,
    you forced me to tell you all this ... although I, like the whole people and I am sure that the entire Turkic ethnos do not think about all this, we consider it history and it should remain there ... we always worry and rejoice for you, in politics in sports in festivals in the economy,
    but how do you turn your tongue to slander us and call us bedding (when I remember evil takes ..)))), when for almost 20 years NATO did everything for us for the sake of our entry into it .., but we did not change our freedom even under threat. ... and the very Aliyev alone opposed the info-war
    Thanks to Israel and the Turks we supported, we did not betray Iran when America asked us to place the base, although he was a traitor for us from which again the problems went ...,
    and finally the European Union and NATO became almost our enemies when we began to help you during the sanctions,
    Thanks to the help of that very Erdogan of Russia and Azerb. the doors to the European Union are finally closed and 30 years of work for a smarka to get into it ... one union is enough for us ... "Brotherly" sincere without papers and conditions ...
  • poquello
    poquello 9 November 2020 23: 12
    +1
    Quote: MTN
    in any case, the Foreign Ministry on behalf of Azerbaijan admitted the mistake and deeply regrets it

    but I don’t understand where the “friend of Russia” Heydar oglu is? Drinking champagne with terrorists?
    1. AĞGURD
      AĞGURD 17 November 2020 23: 29
      -2
      come on ... a commentator to me too ...?
      Quote: poquello
      Quote: MTN
      in any case, the Foreign Ministry on behalf of Azerbaijan admitted the mistake and deeply regrets it

      but I don’t understand where the “friend of Russia” Heydar oglu is? Drinking champagne with terrorists?

      yes go ... I ask you ... do not shout efir and do not distract with your dibble comments ... you can not answer ...
  • begemot20091
    begemot20091 9 November 2020 23: 26
    +3
    This is no coincidence. The operator was filming from a previously prepared position. From the Caspian Sea, a volley at all airfields from where drones take off. And then, by accident, by accident, according to the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense. Then apologize. Food City should be closed in all cities of the Russian Federation. Let them go to Turkey.
    1. Vsepomni
      Vsepomni 10 November 2020 07: 22
      -1
      But what about the Russians in Azerbaijan. You are not sorry for them
    2. begemot20091
      begemot20091 10 November 2020 13: 02
      +1
      But what about the Russians who were in the helicopter? But what about the Russians in Karabakh, whom the Az army is destroying? But what about the Russians in Ukraine, whom the "Bandera" are slaughtering, and what about the Russians in the "enlightened" Baltic states, whom the Chukhonts do not recognize as people. The Russians left for their homeland long ago, especially after Sumgait. Everybody remembers Russians when their ass smokes. Why don't you live in peace? Go to work, raise children ... How long can you destroy a friend?
    3. Vsepomni
      Vsepomni 10 November 2020 14: 28
      0
      Not everyone left. There are a lot of them in international Azerbaijan. After Sumgait, the Armenians left. And so the war is over already. I hope the world will return to the Caucasus
    4. begemot20091
      begemot20091 10 November 2020 14: 32
      0
      Thanks to the Russian paratroopers
    5. begemot20091
      begemot20091 10 November 2020 17: 32
      0
      In international Russia, all markets are filled with Azerbaijanis. In Sochi and Anapa-Armenians. The homeland is protected. Once again, let your mothers say thanks to the Russian paratroopers. The only ones who can appreciate yesterday's mission of the Russian peacekeepers. We are always bad in your eyes. Especially Pashinyan will now begin to scream that the Russians have betrayed.
    6. AĞGURD
      AĞGURD 17 November 2020 23: 43
      -1
      Hippopotamus ... yes, look how they live ... yes, they were not grateful to us, nor to the Turks (they either sold us to the West, then to the Russians), nor to nature (they burn it, cut trees, bury huge chemical waste into the ground, Katina just like that kill), but they are not grateful to the Almighty (in holy places pigs and other animals contain) and who do you want thanks from ...
  • AĞGURD
    AĞGURD 17 November 2020 23: 32
    -1
    you were told the helicopter is Russian but the Armenian pilots ... the Russian pilots would not provoke ...
  • boriz
    boriz 10 November 2020 00: 07
    +3
    The helicopter was shot down over the village of Yeraskh. 200 km from the war zone. Azerbaijan took responsibility.
    Several calibers at the largest airbase in Azerbaijan. Then - disassembly.
    1. Dalmatia
      Dalmatia 10 November 2020 00: 38
      0
      Is it possible
    2. boriz
      boriz 10 November 2020 01: 07
      0
      Technically, no problem. There were launches in Syria for 1 km, but here everything is close. There are small ships with calibers in the Caspian Sea, they also fired at Syria.
      I went to the outer raid of the base, started up, returned.
      One ship has 8 Caliber. Just enough to destroy a large air base.
    3. Walking
      Walking 10 November 2020 04: 33
      0
      Suppress air defense with a missile strike and work on aviation and then accept an apology.
    4. AĞGURD
      AĞGURD 17 November 2020 23: 52
      -1
      I think rather he turned into an underwater boat with a hole in the side ... but what would happen next, and after that Putin and Aliyev know ... you think they are more cowardly than you ... or are you getting smarter than them ... if the elders are silent mean there is why ...
  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 10 November 2020 03: 07
    +1
    I agree. only and then no showdown. then accept an apology.
  • Icarus
    Icarus 10 November 2020 08: 03
    +4
    The war is going on between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and people are dying from 3 countries (sorry

    Firstly, no war was declared or waged between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Secondly, the fact of violation of the border by a helicopter by objective means (radar) has not been established. Thirdly, in the event of a border violation by an aircraft, there are certain international rules for warning before the use of weapons, since the possible crossing of the border may be unintentional or forced.
    Now for the apology. My opinion:
    Payment of the cost of aviation equipment and compensation to family members of the victims and the wounded is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for Russia to accept an apology. To accept Azerbaijan's apology, it is necessary to arrest and transfer to Russia for criminal prosecution of those who gave the order and carried out the order to shoot down the helicopter.
    If this requirement is not met, Russia has the right to launch a missile and bomb attack on the command stationed in Sadarak at any time at its discretion, similar to the way the United States did, for example, with respect to the Iranian General Soleimani.
    1. AĞGURD
      AĞGURD 17 November 2020 23: 57
      -1
      now this is already a conversation ... clearly specificly fair ... and the boy writes comments from the children's yard ..
      By the way, the pilots were burning Armenians ... is it true?
  • Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 9 November 2020 23: 37
    29
    Quote: Garris199
    I find it strange that they shoot down a helicopter that did not violate borders and did not commit aggressive actions.

    And it’s strange to me that as our turntables flew naked, they still fly. But how many enthusiastic articles there were about the presence of weapons without analogues in the world BKO. "Vitebsk" there are different, "Presidents", "Levers" and "Khibiny". And judging by the footage of the death of our helicopter, even the shooting of the LTZ was not carried out.
    1. boriz
      boriz 10 November 2020 00: 09
      +2
      The helicopter was shot down over the village of Yeraskh. 200 km from the war zone.
    2. Garris199
      Garris199 10 November 2020 01: 12
      +5
      Not all equipment has been modernized. Again, Armenia did not allow upgrading equipment at base 102. That is, you fight for us if that, but only with what is available on the base since the bearded years.
    3. Eug
      Eug 10 November 2020 07: 28
      +1
      This is why they did not shoot, because it was far from the combat zone. Non-belligerent helicopter.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 10 November 2020 07: 58
        +3
        Quote: Eug
        So that's why they didn't shoot,

        The fact of the matter is that the missile launch on board was not noticed in any way. those. there was no technical means of detecting the attack.
    4. Vladimir Elderly
      Vladimir Elderly 10 November 2020 15: 42
      -1
      It's bad to be a moose, not a deer!
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 10 November 2020 15: 57
        0
        Quote: Vladimir Elderly
        It's bad to be a moose, not a deer!

        From the deer's point of view, this is obviously the correct statement.
  • Runway
    Runway 10 November 2020 00: 07
    +9
    According to the Old Testament documents, the passage of an aircraft outside the air corridors, and even more so along the border in the border strip, the adjacent side is obliged at the level of border representatives (the level of the site commandant / commander of the border battalion) to notify the adjacent side of the flight.
    The movement of convoys in the border zone in terms of determining the route and time (twilight, night, weather conditions) is agreed with the border agency.
    In the eighty-last year in the KVPO, in the fall, at dawn, a young letekh at the head of the outfit, getting acquainted with the site beyond the RP, bludanded and went out onto the road between PN and the Chinese border post. By coincidence, the yellow ones took out the shift to the PN. The result of the meeting - 5 Chinese "200", "Peking" in a colander, our profound apologies, leeh through the "Nautilus" of the hospital to the national economy.
    Subjectively, in this case, someone is “a complete cruelty ... yay,” and the crew answered with their lives for him.
    1. boriz
      boriz 10 November 2020 01: 26
      +5
      There is no fighting there, 200 km. But Nakhichevan and Turkey are nearby.
      Obviously, the Turks were shot down, and Aliyev was covering them up.
  • rruvim
    rruvim 10 November 2020 00: 09
    -12 qualifying.
    Are there these "calibers"? In sufficient quantity ... Enough ammunition, as an argument to give, the Turks, as allies of Azerbaijan, have their own "calibers". Perhaps even more.
  • passerby
    passerby 10 November 2020 04: 50
    +2
    Quote: Garris199
    Don't want to get a Caliber on the head by mistake? We will also apologize later, of course.

    Isn't that funny to you yourself? An apology will be accepted, the pilots will be buried and they will pretend that everything is fine - nothing happened.
  • Vikxnumx
    Vikxnumx 10 November 2020 09: 42
    0
    We learned from the Jews!
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 23: 35
    +5
    But in any case, the answers will not return life, for my part I can say I'm very sorry. My condolences to the family members of the pilots. But all the same there is a sediment in my soul that this is a provocation. Especially to drag Russia into the war.

    I would also give my condolences to the Turks and Azerbaijanis if there were no military units left on the territory of Nakhichevan at all. I do not call for war, just the answer should be sevenfold hi
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 10 November 2020 03: 34
      -5
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      My condolences to the family members of the pilots. But all the same there is a sediment in my soul that this is a provocation. Especially to drag Russia into the war.

      What, you are another one of the "indulge-yourself-incite", right?
      Well, Russia will smash with calibers in Baku. This is bad? Will it not work out tolerantly? Will your Putin's partners condemn us?
      Will Perdogan be offended and won't sell tomatoes?
      Well, what will happen?
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 10 November 2020 03: 37
      -4
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      I do not call for war, just the answer must be sevenfold


      that's our trouble. They hammered tolerance into our heads.
      And here I am calling for war

      Because without war everything will be much worse now.
      And I also urge you to finally get rid of (peacefully) from United Russia, Putin and all this liberal shobla that have seized our country and are destroying it by order of the Western masters
    3. passerby
      passerby 10 November 2020 04: 54
      -2
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      I do not call for war, just the answer must be sevenfold

      An apology will be accepted, and the pilots will be buried, that's the whole answer.
    4. AĞGURD
      AĞGURD 18 November 2020 00: 08
      -1
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      But in any case, the answers will not return life, for my part I can say I'm very sorry. My condolences to the family members of the pilots. But all the same there is a sediment in my soul that this is a provocation. Especially to drag Russia into the war.

      I would also give my condolences to the Turks and Azerbaijanis if there were no military units left on the territory of Nakhichevan at all. I do not call for war, just the answer should be sevenfold hi

      I think it is imperative that to satisfy such a seven-metricity there will be a cynical reaction ... until they discourage the seekers of symmetry from looking for seven-metricity ...
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 18 November 2020 00: 30
        0
        Quote: AĞGURD
        Quote: Pavlos Melas
        But in any case, the answers will not return life, for my part I can say I'm very sorry. My condolences to the family members of the pilots. But all the same there is a sediment in my soul that this is a provocation. Especially to drag Russia into the war.

        I would also give my condolences to the Turks and Azerbaijanis if there were no military units left on the territory of Nakhichevan at all. I do not call for war, just the answer should be sevenfold hi

        I think it is imperative that to satisfy such a seven-metricity there will be a cynical reaction ... until they discourage the seekers of symmetry from looking for seven-metricity ...

        The question is who will satisfy this chain reaction. Who after such a collision will remain standing and who will disappear. Sometimes it is worth being sharp to be discouraged.
  • Garri
    Garri 10 November 2020 00: 44
    0
    That is, the pilots, in your Azeri opinion, are suicides?
  • Alexander Suvorov
    Alexander Suvorov 10 November 2020 00: 48
    16
    What a prolific troll, less than a month on the site, 1000+ comments and almost a hundred thousand minuses ...! Where do you broadcast sick? Not from the Ruin for an hour?
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  • Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 9 November 2020 22: 02
    43
    The helicopter flew several kilometers from the border. What is the radius of MANPADS? The calculation probably climbed into the adjacent territory. And in general, proceeding from the statement of the Azerbaijanis, it is now possible to shoot down planes and helicopters on foreign territory simply because they had nothing to fly there before, but now they can fly? Interesting. You can shoot down any aircraft approaching the border and then apologize ... Or our S-300 and S-400 do not know how to shoot? Well, it seemed ... Suddenly it will fly in our direction, but here for safety and ... Moreover, a precedent has been created. We need to act in such a way that they are even afraid to turn in our direction. But our diaspora of these "comrades" is too big. After all, they are connected with their own history. And the conditions must be created for them appropriate. According to the situation, without fanaticism.
    I don't know ... They spit at us, and we wipe ourselves off ...
    1. MTN
      MTN 9 November 2020 22: 17
      -20 qualifying.
      Quote: Andrey NM
      The calculation probably climbed into the adjacent territory.

      The helicopter was shot down from a town called Sadarak on the border with Armenia. And there is a base and, accordingly, there will be air defense.

      Quote: Andrey NM
      And in general, proceeding from the statement of the Azerbaijanis, it is now possible to shoot down planes and helicopters on a foreign territory simply because they had nothing to fly there before, but now they can fly?

      The Azerbaijani side stated that Russian helicopters did not fly there. Russian troops are stationed on the border with Iran and Turkey, not with Azerbaijan. And then there's nighttime. And Azerbaijan constantly expects provocations from Armenians.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 22
        +3
        Keep showing your own duplicity ...
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 10 November 2020 00: 11
          -3
          you would have listened to the voice of logic. or at least I would dispute. and then some emotions.
      2. StarTroopers
        StarTroopers 9 November 2020 22: 29
        +8
        Quote: MTN
        Quote: Andrey NM
        The calculation probably climbed into the adjacent territory.

        The helicopter was shot down from a town called Sadarak on the border with Armenia. And there is a base and, accordingly, there will be air defense.

        Quote: Andrey NM
        And in general, proceeding from the statement of the Azerbaijanis, it is now possible to shoot down planes and helicopters on a foreign territory simply because they had nothing to fly there before, but now they can fly?

        The Azerbaijani side stated that Russian helicopters did not fly there. Russian troops are stationed on the border with Iran and Turkey, not with Azerbaijan. And then there's nighttime. And Azerbaijan constantly expects provocations from Armenians.

        Well? If our helicopter flew where necessary, so what a devil, you shoot down someone else's helicopter. It doesn't matter whose it is. He is not in Karabakh. Waiting for an answer.
      3. LifeIsGood
        LifeIsGood 10 November 2020 00: 46
        +8
        Dear MTN, you are an adult, educated, I think you yourself perfectly understand that you are carrying some kind of childish babble ... Your "arguments" are more like delirium and a convulsive attempt to justify request
        As far as I know, Azerbajan did not declare war on Armenia, and had no right to ATTACK ANYONE on the territory of Armenia! The helicopter flew through the territory of Armenia !!! And the fact that at night, "they did not fly before" and were not warned ... so no one was obliged to warn you !!! Armenians can even ride along the border with a tank army ... that's their right! Like yours too !!!
        An attack of something by the servicemen of one state on the territory of another state can definitely be regarded as an "act of aggression and a declaration of war" !!! And the more the attack of military equipment!
        I don’t presume to say for sure, I read somewhere that the border guards at a certain time are even forbidden to shoot in the DIRECTION OF THE BORDER! God forbid, on the other side they will not think so !!!!
        You yourself say that you constantly "expect provocations"! This means that both the border guards and the troops stationed on it should have received appropriate instructions !!! In which it was definitely FORBIDDEN TO ATTACK ANYTHING ON THE TERRITORY OF THE NEIGHBOR !!!

        So, let's not procrastinate any nonsense ... They don't sit here either!
        In fact, there are not so many "WHY" options:
        1. Your servicemen INDIVIDUALLY spit on all the INSTRUCTIONS and ORDERS decided to show "who's boss" and kick Armenia! That you will agree smacks of delirium ...
        2. This was a deliberate "action" sanctioned by the government of Azerbaijan. What nonsense is not less!
        3. It was a deliberate "action" from your kind "brothers" from Turkey / Israel / USA or whoever else is there to either just kick Russia more painfully or to drag it into the war. And when the Russian Federation rolls "Baku" over the stone, you can lend a helping hand "look what a bad neighbor you have, he abuses". Well and at the same time shout louder about aggressiveness and blah blah blah.

        Choose the option you like best ...
      4. boriz
        boriz 10 November 2020 01: 29
        +3
        The helicopter was shot down near the village of Yeraskh. There, before the hostilities - 200 km. But, simply, Turkey and Nakhichevan are nearby.
        Obviously, the Turks were shot down, and Aliyev was covering them.
      5. Vladimir Elderly
        Vladimir Elderly 10 November 2020 16: 05
        0
        mtn- in your avatar you indicate the KGB! They wouldn't let you get close there! I served in the ON unit of the KGB of the USSR and am proud of it! On the basis of our unit, such units as "Vympel", "Zenith" and others were created. In 1974-1979. in our ranks they took only athletes with an education of at least secondary special, and then





        since 1979) and higher!
        1. AĞGURD
          AĞGURD 18 November 2020 00: 18
          -1
          Quote: Vladimir Elderly
          mtn- in your avatar you indicate the KGB! They wouldn't let you get close there! I served in the ON unit of the KGB of the USSR and am proud of it! On the basis of our unit, such units as "Vympel", "Zenith" and others were created. In 1974-1979. in our ranks they took only athletes with an education of at least secondary special, and then





          since 1979) and higher!

          that it is hard to believe that you are a KGB-shnik, the more so the USSR-rovs ... But why are you here introducing yourself and a pendulum flag ... and where is the charter ...?
    2. the most important
      the most important 9 November 2020 23: 36
      +8
      Quote: Andrey NM
      They spit at us, and we wipe ourselves off ...

      A few days ago, it was five years since our plane was blown up over Sinai. The customer is known and Satanovsky announced his name and position. But his head is not yet in alcohol and is not in the archive. So our people continue to die. And such an archive is needed, and that everyone would know about it. who encroaches on Russia.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 9 November 2020 23: 48
        +4
        A few days ago, it was five years since our plane was blown up over Sinai. The customer is known and Satanovsky announced his name and position

        Who is he?
    3. passerby
      passerby 10 November 2020 04: 55
      -1
      Quote: Andrey NM
      I don't know ... They spit at us, and we wipe ourselves off ...

      This is the role our leadership has prepared for us - to wipe ourselves off.
    4. NI1
      NI1 10 November 2020 05: 09
      -1
      The fact that the Russian side will get involved, rake or rake this conflict has been said in the comments before. And that's how it happened. And this is not a coincidence, but a pattern.
      And the main instigators of the conflict, the United States and Turkey, will come out dry.
      This shows the obvious level of our Ministry of Defense, Foreign Affairs, etc.
      Filled up the FSB turntable, 2-200, 1-300. How do we answer? That's right, we will accept the apology and bring in peacekeepers to calm down the hot Caucasian lads!
  • Machito
    Machito 9 November 2020 22: 10
    12
    Quote: finish
    Thoughts from one TG analyst:
    The downing of the Mi-24 was not an accidental event. They prepared it, studied the activities of our military at the Gyumri base, the flight schedule of aviation, they knew about the military convoy. The calculation of MANPADS took an advantageous position (practically hitting at close range), and the spectators from Nakhichevan took their places in the stalls.
    Let me remind you that Azerbaijan is not a NATO member. Therefore, the answer must be tough. It was different with Turkey, a NATO member, and it shouldn't be like that with Azerbaijan.
    Russia's response to the planned and orchestrated provocation of Azerbaijan (not without the participation of Turkey and its patrons, the Anglo-Saxons) - must be tough and inevitable.
    Rubicon passed!

    Totally agree with you. Azerbaijan with the support of Turkey wants to pump the situation with Russia. This is a trial balloon. Ramtsy beguiled. It is necessary to annihilate a couple of battalions by mistake and apologize.
    1. AĞGURD
      AĞGURD 9 November 2020 23: 29
      -25 qualifying.
      and you try ...
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 23: 41
        +8
        Quote: AĞGURD
        and you try ...

        And what will happen if they try, Pakistan is unlikely to fit in for you. Turk Bashi himself came and offered compensation for the downed plane. Yes, and now in NATO for Turkey the weather is not very flying ...
        So you have to think, otherwise they will suddenly hear you and embody ...
        1. AĞGURD
          AĞGURD 18 November 2020 00: 33
          -1
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          Quote: AĞGURD
          and you try ...

          And what will happen if they try, Pakistan is unlikely to fit in for you. Turk Bashi himself came and offered compensation for the downed plane. Yes, and now in NATO for Turkey the weather is not very flying ...
          So you have to think, otherwise they will suddenly hear you and embody ...

          You know, for 25 years we have been patiently asking ... to shut up and hand over the land ... in response ... to insult and threats ... but what if we don't give it up ...? There was everything on all kinds of programs about our warnings ... we did it a couple of times as a guideline ... but no one believed it ... well, then we did what we said ... and without any help, although almost the entire Muslim and terrorist world in our ranks is credited ... even Iran was threatened ... and what now ... so God forbid until this day ... as for the Armenians the April battles were trial, so for others it was a trial war ...
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 18 November 2020 00: 51
            0
            You know, for 25 years we have been patiently asking ... to shut up and hand over the land ... in response ... to insult and threats ... but what if we don't give it up ...? There was everything on all kinds of programs about our warnings ... we did it a couple of times for reference .. but no one believed it ... well then we did what we said ...

            Here you can't argue with you, you need to return it
            and without any help, although they attribute almost the entire Muslim and terrorist world in our ranks ... even Iran to us

            Well, Turkey was in Karabakh, whatever you say, and most likely the Turkomans were there too. It does not matter that you went to the goal who helped you does not matter.
            Only this article is almost about this, but about the killed pilots far from the fighting.
            how the April battles were trial for Armenians so for others this war was a trial ...
            I generally find it difficult to comment on this. laughing ... Announce the entire list please hi
          2. AĞGURD
            AĞGURD 18 November 2020 01: 03
            -1
            yes there were Turks and Israelis and Russians ... but these are technicians (specialists in technology) and not fighters ... we bought them from them ... about the rest ... this is a reaction in May when something is behaving arrogantly and with its populistic with comments trying to humiliate me or my country or nation
          3. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 18 November 2020 01: 12
            0
            about the rest ... this is May's reaction when here someone is behaving arrogantly and with their populist comments tries to humiliate me or my country or nation
            Imagine the situation the PKK (PKK) shot down a Turkish helicopter or destroyed a checkpoint. A Kurd, Greek, Armenian, Bulgarian or Arab will start writing on a Turkish website that the guys are good fellows that they shot down. Under the comments of the indignant, he will obviously troll, how will they react to this there?
      2. AĞGURD
        AĞGURD 18 November 2020 00: 54
        -1
        Why does the admin forbid me to leave comments ... what have I insulted kagoto?
  • aglet
    aglet 9 November 2020 22: 12
    -2
    "Russia's response to the planned and orchestrated provocation of Azerbaijan (not without the participation of Turkey and its patrons, the Anglo-Saxons) - must be tough and inevitable.
    Rubicon passed! "
    the answer will be, and very tough - the guarantor will declare: aliyev! with tomatoes! he will not get off! as always
  • Dreamboat
    Dreamboat 9 November 2020 22: 12
    -15 qualifying.
    Russia's response to the planned and orchestrated provocation of Azerbaijan (not without the participation of Turkey and its patrons, the Anglo-Saxons)

    Inconvenient questions for your paralytic:
    1. What was the 200 km column of Russian equipment doing? (across the whole of Armenia) from Gyumri in the immediate vicinity of the border with Azerbaijan? On the road Yerevan - Stepanokert, at night ....?!
    2. Why does Azerbaijan, winning the war, involve Russia in the war? Given that the consequences will clearly not be in favor of Azerbaijan?
    3. Why Turkey, which avoids open confrontation with Russia in Syria and Libya, a war with Russia at the borders of Russia? ...
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 9 November 2020 22: 20
      13
      but everything is simple .. the war is coming to an end .. no one climbed into Nakhichevan .. that's why a couple of mentally retarded with MANPADS decided to shoot down an Armenian turntable and get a medal ... if the Armenian turntable turned out to be, everyone would shout "wai maladets", and since she is Russian, they began to arrange "what did she forget there?" .. this is the same as blaming the victim of a maniac in the style of "she is to blame!" ..
      1. AĞGURD
        AĞGURD 10 November 2020 00: 07
        -19 qualifying.
        .it is the same as blaming the victim of a maniac in the style of "it's her own fault!" ..
        no more, it looks like you are fighting to the death with someone, and then whoever sees it or it is necessary to pass between you at that moment ... well, by accident with a knife ... even if he gives the ends there, the court will never be able to wind malicious on you ... maximum unfortunate case do not be careful ...
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 10 November 2020 09: 40
          -2
          Do you have problems with studying the map? Did you study so badly in school? .. by the way, it has already been said that either the guilty will be punished, or there will be consequences for Baku ... let's say some oligarch will be left without all his business ... heels billion dollars
        2. Pensive Lawyer
          Pensive Lawyer 10 November 2020 14: 05
          0
          Oh and you are mistaken
  • aglet
    aglet 9 November 2020 22: 18
    -10 qualifying.
    "Let me remind you that Azerbaijan is not a member of NATO. Therefore, the answer must be tough. With Turkey, a NATO member, it was different, with Azerbaijan it should not be."
    That is, it was stupid to touch a member of NATO, Turkey, but the Azerbaijanis can be tough to answer? calm down, everything will be as it was then, well, maybe the concern will be a little deeper. the authorities of the erephia have neither political will nor self-esteem. Only the lazy does not wipe his feet on them. and they have no time, they are fighting the virus
  • nemez
    nemez 9 November 2020 23: 38
    0
    Most likely to wear out
    1. passerby
      passerby 10 November 2020 04: 58
      -5
      Quote: nemez
      Most likely to wear out

      Not likely, but 100% will wear out.
  • passerby
    passerby 10 November 2020 04: 40
    0
    Quote: finish
    Thoughts from one TG analyst:
    The downing of the Mi-24 was not an accidental event. They prepared it, studied the activities of our military at the Gyumri base, the flight schedule of aviation, they knew about the military convoy. The calculation of MANPADS took an advantageous position (practically hitting at close range), and the spectators from Nakhichevan took their places in the stalls.
    Let me remind you that Azerbaijan is not a NATO member. Therefore, the answer must be tough. It was different with Turkey, a NATO member, and it shouldn't be like that with Azerbaijan.
    Russia's response to the planned and orchestrated provocation of Azerbaijan (not without the participation of Turkey and its patrons, the Anglo-Saxons) - must be tough and inevitable.
    Rubicon passed!

    There will be nothing.
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    1. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 9 November 2020 22: 31
      +2
      Quote: Nikza
      Foodcity belongs to Azerbaijani Jews

      Israel will be held accountable for this act of Zionist aggression.
  • Nikza
    Nikza 9 November 2020 22: 30
    +8
    Foodcity belongs to Azerbaijani Jews. They also own the Slavyanskaya hotel, the Evropeyskiy shopping center on the square of the Kievsky railway station, palaces on Rublevka and a bunch of other objects. And one and the second Putin personally presented some kind of medal. So no one will turn off the electricity / energy to such respected people :-))
  • TulaTokarev
    TulaTokarev 9 November 2020 23: 14
    0
    Or maybe, as usual, ban tomatoes?
    1. passerby
      passerby 10 November 2020 04: 59
      -1
      Quote: TulaTokarev
      Or maybe, as usual, ban tomatoes?

      Why are you so tough? After all, people apologized, said that it was not on purpose - to understand and forgive.
  • the finish
    the finish 9 November 2020 21: 18
    15
    Have you already apologized that ahead of time on the other branch you unambiguously accused the Armenian side of provocation?
    1. Old tanker
      Old tanker 9 November 2020 21: 21
      +1
      There were no unequivocal charges. Do not lie. I just said that it can only be beneficial to Armenia. Other parties to the conflict are not interested in this. This is what Azerbaijan's instant recognition of its guilt says.
      1. Civil
        Civil 9 November 2020 21: 28
        11
        Well, at least I had the courage to admit my guilt and apologize. And so, a slap on the head would not hurt.
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 9 November 2020 21: 59
          +7
          From their apology, I understood that "Rafik is not guilty."
        2. AĞGURD
          AĞGURD 9 November 2020 23: 33
          -18 qualifying.
          we are ready
          why on earth should we be afraid of someone or were we afraid of someone else ..? do you follow the speech
          1. Dmitriy66
            Dmitriy66 10 November 2020 06: 29
            +3
            And where did you come from so smart, from behind a counter in food city or what?
            hide back, and do not shine. and learn the great and mighty Russian language. And when the teacher puts "5", then you will write.
        3. AĞGURD
          AĞGURD 11 November 2020 19: 17
          -1
          "And so, a slap on the head would not hurt." .... why what ....!?)) Be careful not to damage your hands .....
          1. AĞGURD
            AĞGURD 12 November 2020 08: 50
            0
            oh dimon .... I know Russian and speak it by comparison with the Russians themselves, believe me much competently .... and by the way, we were 2000 years ago about magic, and wait, it's been great for a long time ..., the main thing is that you study well while you are young and not only the language but also the history do not forget you still have everything in front of you ... and by the way, no thanks are needed for the fact that you are mighty today ... we are always there ...
      2. major147
        major147 9 November 2020 22: 01
        +4
        Quote: Old Tankman
        I just said that it can only be beneficial to Armenia.

        To be honest, I also suspected the provocation of the Armenian Armed Forces.
        1. passerby
          passerby 10 November 2020 05: 01
          -1
          Quote: major147
          To be honest, I also suspected the provocation of the Armenian Armed Forces.

          But it turned out that this is an insolent and cynical spit in the face of Russia from Azerbaijan. Like, what will you do now, the peace treaty has already been signed, so wipe yourself off ...
      3. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 9 November 2020 22: 21
        -1
        because there is evidence of objective control ... an attempt to get away from the topic "we are good, we are by accident" .. because otherwise we would have to answer for something else ..
    2. Sauron80
      Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 24
      25
      Well, you won't deny that for Armenia this Azerbaijani fool with MANPADS is just a gift from heaven? The whole question is in the reaction of our "chiefs".
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 9 November 2020 21: 37
        -8
        Quote: Sauron80
        The whole question is in the reaction of our "chiefs".

        What's the reaction? Azerbaijan in the worst case for them will get off, like Turkey, with tomatoes and resorts. And perhaps this will not happen - do not leave the Russians without vitamins against the background of the virus. recourse Or the import of tomatoes from Belarus to Russia will sharply increase. And what, they, won, catch herring in their territorial waters and export all over the world, even to the USA. tongue
        It is, of course, not very visible, but if you strain your eyes, you can make out "Made in Belarus".
        1. karpusha
          karpusha 9 November 2020 22: 10
          12
          Don't touch our herring. We have been producing it for 20 years, even before the introduction of sanctions. By the way, an excellent herring.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 9 November 2020 23: 58
            +1
            Quote: karpusha
            Don't touch our herring. We have been producing it for 20 years, even before the introduction of sanctions. By the way, an excellent herring.

            The herring is great, I buy it regularly, and I know from there. But about the territorial waters of Belarus ... Was it not there that Jen Psaki threatened to send an American carrier group to demonstrate the flag?
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 10 November 2020 19: 01
            0
            Quote: Nagan
            And what, they, won, catch and export herring in their territorial waters all over the world, even to the USA

            EMNIP, there is one subtle point here: only direct re-export of products - such as that meat "from Belarus" with Ukrainian brands, is prohibited. But canned food, frozen food and other processed products can already be safely imported into the Russian Federation, regardless of the origin of the raw materials. "Santa Bremor", in fact, lives from this. smile
        2. Zefr
          Zefr 9 November 2020 22: 50
          +7
          I think the Americans, when the fighting approached their base, the mischievous kittens would be poked into shit. In Syria, they have a security zone near their bases, in which no one risks the right to download.
          That would be the way to tell ours that you will play out with your games here, allies.
          Request the issuance of a shooter
          Warn that in the security zone from now on everything that can potentially threaten (and what, they were the first to start) will be destroyed
        3. Sergey_K
          Sergey_K 10 November 2020 01: 59
          +2
          Turkey got off not only with tomatoes:
          https://lentaru.media.eagleplatform.com/index/player?record_id=456390&player=new
      2. Garris199
        Garris199 9 November 2020 21: 45
        +5
        And actually against whom is it directed? Against aliens? If not against the Russian Federation, then against Armenia, and this is an attack on an ally of the CSTO.
        1. MTN
          MTN 9 November 2020 22: 04
          -30 qualifying.
          Quote: Garris199
          And actually against whom is it directed? Against aliens? If not against the Russian Federation, then against Armenia, and this is an attack on an ally of the CSTO.

          And what does the helicopter do on the border with Azerbaijan? Why is Azerbaijan not being warned?

          The road and the column go over the mountain. The Azerbaijani side does not really see it. And what the helicopter is doing on the border is an interesting question. The photo was taken from the Azerbaijani city. And what a smart military man drew a similar route for them, knowing that there is a war going on and Azerbaijan is watching the entire border in full combat readiness.

          1. Garris199
            Garris199 9 November 2020 22: 09
            25
            You're strange. And what was the calculation of MANPADS doing on the border with Armenia? Why weren't you warned?
            The helicopter violated the border? No. The rest is not "your" business.
          2. nobody75
            nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 09
            +8
            They also make excuses ...
            1. hydroy
              hydroy 9 November 2020 22: 23
              +4
              Pompous peacocks! Why the hell are they shooting down our helicopter, which did not violate the borders of Azerbaijan!
              1. AĞGURD
                AĞGURD 9 November 2020 23: 45
                -19 qualifying.
                yet this was not enough to break it ... in the first place, in the second place, they said it was so, but there the front line and there should be no one except for the Armenians ... in the third, until that moment, the Russians did not make any flights ... and the Armenians constantly arrange provocations along the entire front ... there will certainly be a demand from a soldier and will surely be in the presence of a Russian atasha
                1. hydroy
                  hydroy 10 November 2020 00: 00
                  +4
                  Are you crazy? from which soldier? it is 5 km from the border without flying abroad! What is the front line? There is no official war between Armenia and Azerbaijan! No compensation! Only strikes against Karabakh and Azerbaijani militants!
                2. Dmitriy66
                  Dmitriy66 10 November 2020 06: 32
                  +1
                  And where did you come from so smart, from behind a counter in food city or what?
                  hide back, and do not shine. and learn the great and mighty Russian language. And when the teacher puts "5", then you will write.
          3. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 9 November 2020 22: 19
            +5
            Quote: MTN
            And what does the helicopter do on the border with Azerbaijan?

            Flies ....
            Why is Azerbaijan not being warned?

            And who are they to warn them? The helicopter was shot down in the airspace of Armenia and period ..... or do you want to transfer the hostilities to the territory of Armenia ...?
            Azerbaijan has already admitted its mistake, and here you are all broadcasting nonsense of gray cabal to the masses ...
          4. aglet
            aglet 9 November 2020 22: 27
            +5
            "The road and the column go beyond the mountain. The Azerbaijani side does not really see. And what the helicopter is doing there on the border is an interesting question. The photo was taken from the Azerbaijani city. And what smart military man drew a similar route for them, knowing that there is a war and Azerbaijan is on full alert. watches over the entire border. "
            in general, the war is going on in Karabakh, not in Armenia, and not in Nakhichevan, and the helicopter flew through the territory of Armenia
          5. the most important
            the most important 9 November 2020 23: 21
            +5
            Quote: MTN
            Why is Azerbaijan not being warned?

            Of course it is necessary to warn. And preferably a pendel with all our might, so that the brains work in the right direction.
          6. ashot1973
            ashot1973 9 November 2020 23: 59
            +5
            The road and the column go over the mountain. The Azerbaijani side does not really see it.
            -
            Stop talking nonsense, this is the international highway M2 (Yerevan-Tehran) and along this route the RF Armed Forces, upon the agreement of the RA government, can move anywhere (for example, to Meghri Zastava on the Armenian-Iranian border). So this is not a reason ...
            1. Runway
              Runway 10 November 2020 01: 19
              -1
              Are Armenia and Azerbaijan guarding each other? Both states, not being in a state of war, declared mobility (special period). Accordingly, the OGG is carried out in special conditions (not even strenuously, but from the trenches with the withdrawal of the RAV warehouses to the support ones, collecting and screwing up DND from local ones, etc.).
              Are diplomatic relations and, accordingly, border mission activities not terminated?
              The convoy did not go for half an hour and the board did not reach the point in five minutes, there was a lot of time for a request to Gyumri and a call to the Azerbaijani border representative (even a flag, even a series of missiles from the joint venture, even a mixed method).
              And if the Armenians would have done all this (with documentation), then the events would not have happened at least or would have had a different color now (a reason and a trump card for the same Lavrov).
              The Azerbaijanis are also "handsome" - they could do with the highlighting of the border from the joint venture (yes, even with bursts of tracers along the GG - this is not the best option, but tnm).
      3. Dreamboat
        Dreamboat 9 November 2020 22: 20
        -13 qualifying.
        Local screamers "let's not forget we will take revenge" either left our country for a long time, or expect to sit out under the sofa. Welcome to Armenia, there is a need for volunteers, there are still enough machines. Go, take a stand for your "pride". And to "take revenge" with the hands and heads of others is cowardice. Those who do not fight should not even say a word. And then the avengers got drunk here!
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 9 November 2020 23: 04
          +4
          Quote: Dreamboat
          Local screamers "let's not forget we will take revenge" either left our country for a long time, or expect to sit out under the sofa.

          You can't sit under the sofa, that's for sure, the place of Azerbaijanis will gladly be replaced by others ... they will also give you acceleration ...
          Welcome to Armenia, there is a need for volunteers, there are still enough machines.

          What for? The Russian Federation has enough weapons to destroy Azerbaijan as a state without stepping on its territory ... and in NKR the Armenians will finish you off ...
          Go, take a stand for your "pride". And to "take revenge" with the hands and heads of others is cowardice. Those who do not fight should not even say a word.

          Are you rude uncle? In vain! I will answer for myself, I am not young but still in reserve, but if the Party and the Government send you to kill, I will not think about it, the oath of ts ...
          And then the avengers got drunk here!

          Judge by yourself, well, nothing will come, the time all Azerbaijan will drink bitter ...
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 10 November 2020 00: 09
            -3
            And which party will send you to kill people, may I ask?
            Is it really United Russia? So she seems to be not noticed in such bloodlust.
            Or is the membership card of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union still dragging away his pocket? In that case, haven't you confused the times? The 21st century is in the yard, the mind, honor and conscience of the past era have long rested in Bose. Wake up.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 10 November 2020 00: 13
              -1
              Quote: Cosm22
              Wake up.

              Hello and pokedova to the newly registered to help the "brothers" "Bulgarians" ...
      4. passerby
        passerby 10 November 2020 05: 01
        0
        Quote: Sauron80
        The whole question is in the reaction of our "chiefs".

        They'll accept the apology and bury the pilots, that's the whole reaction.
  • Lexus
    Lexus 9 November 2020 21: 24
    16
    I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that the personnel and equipment of any party not receiving in an armed conflict should be properly designated / marked in order to exclude the possibility of their identification as an enemy, and the opposing forces should be notified of their deployment and movement in the prescribed manner ... Nothing supernatural. But this, obviously, was not done. If you continue to treat the performance of your direct duties, such tragedies, unfortunately, will invariably recur.
    1. Altona
      Altona 9 November 2020 21: 37
      18
      Quote: lexus
      I just wanted to draw attention to the fact

      ------------------------
      The answer must be brutal and unambiguous. Back in 1988, my company foreman, senior warrant officer Lysak, fired two bursts (the first over the heads, the second in the crowd) from his regular machine gun at a crowd of "disgruntled" Azerbaijanis and they immediately "why were you silent before, dear?" And the current "apology" of Azerbaijan looks more like "I swayed your airy shaitan-arba, once again take off and kill again." And this is a graphic illustration of the "military outside politics" thesis. Such is our "influential country". The gunman must have been waiting in ambush for the aircraft.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 9 November 2020 21: 51
        +9
        Such is our "influential country".

        Eugene hi , this is the root of all our troubles today.
      2. not main
        not main 9 November 2020 22: 15
        +5
        Quote: Altona
        The gunman must have been waiting in ambush for the aircraft.

        But this ... no questions asked! There was an ambush! And now the question is, either ours always walked there like that (just calculated), or ... I don't want to think!
        1. Altona
          Altona 9 November 2020 23: 02
          10
          Quote: non-primary
          And now the question is, either ours always went there like that (just calculated), or ... I don't want to think!

          --------------------------------
          Yes, they just decided to "feel" as in other cases. Pure provocation. And so they will constantly "feel" weakly. I didn’t just cite a real case as an example. Only strength is respected there. Since the time of the murder of Griboyedov (it does not matter who is Persians, Turks, Azerbaijanis). Not because I or someone out there wants a real mess, but simply there will always be such "zubotychiny" to give and wait, when we will "gorge on tomatoes and baklava". There, the "geopolitics" is very simple, just the same as its senior warrant officer Lysak demonstrated with the permission of the then higher authorities. Therefore, the Americans do not bother there, they immediately use force, even inadequate to the threat.
          1. not main
            not main 9 November 2020 23: 40
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            Altona (Eugene) Today,

            I agree! Griboyedov was convinced!
    2. Garris199
      Garris199 9 November 2020 21: 47
      24
      Armenia is not at war with Azerbaijan. There are no opposing sides on this border. This is an attack, whatever one may say.
      1. MTN
        MTN 9 November 2020 22: 24
        -19 qualifying.
        Quote: Garris199
        Armenia is not at war with Azerbaijan.

        Wait a minute. When Pashinyan first came to power, google, there was a shootout on the territory of the border between Armenia and Nakhichevan. Google and make sure. And who are aliens fighting us in Karabakh? Armenians. Didn't Armenians shoot at Azerbaijan from their territory? Forgot Tovuz? And there are a thousand such stories.

        I'm not making excuses for the scrap who fired at the helicopter .... it's just that there are jambs on the Russian side.

        Look at the photo and map. Look where the road is and where the border is. Look at the time in the dark. And who flies there during the war without warning? And why mountains? It seems to me it is necessary to plant the one who drew this route for them.

        1. nobody75
          nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 27
          +2
          I do not make excuses for the scrap who fired at the helicopter

          Do you justify your entire "information war"? So who were you really fighting against?
        2. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 9 November 2020 22: 52
          +5
          Quote: MTN
          Look at the photo and the map. Look where the road is and where the border is.

          Where you have a "probable place of fall", in my opinion, in fact, the probable place of a MANPADS shot.
        3. NipponSpb
          NipponSpb 10 November 2020 01: 06
          +1
          There is no war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. There are no battles on the border with Nakhichevan. Until now, Azerbaijan has not officially shot down a single aircraft or helicopter over the territory of Armenia in this conflict, and it seems that it did not express any intentions to transfer military operations to the territory of Armenia, and has never even fired on the other side. And now the "first time" shot by accident and immediately hit the Russian helicopter. So on your way? Then those who shot must be found and punished to the fullest extent. Do you agree?
        4. Dmitriy66
          Dmitriy66 10 November 2020 06: 41
          0
          MTN (KGB school)"Look at the time in the dark. And who flies there during the war without warning?"
          Why did everyone decide that no one had warned anyone?
          is there infa from the operational duty officer?
          Or did I miss something in the news feed? convince us, .... well, or throw a tomato, now you will have a lot on the shelves.
    3. nobody75
      nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 10
      +4
      We, Russians, are to blame ...
      1. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 10 November 2020 03: 23
        -3
        in who else? life is such that the one who does not answer is always to blame. They will spit in your face, humiliate you, spit from all sides, and you will be guilty. that's how life works.
    4. MTN
      MTN 9 November 2020 22: 20
      -15 qualifying.
      Quote: lexus
      I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that the personnel and equipment of any party not receiving in an armed conflict should be properly designated / marked in order to exclude the possibility of their identification as an enemy, and the opposing forces should be notified of their deployment and movement in the prescribed manner ...

      That's it. Krasava! Sorry guys anyway. I'm just wondering how clever he drew such a route for them, knowing that now there is a war going on, and all the more so since Russian helicopters on the border with Armenia and Azerbaijan did not fly there.

      It's a pity for the guys (or rather their families. The war between Azerbaijan and Armenia and others are dying. It's a pity. It's a pity.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 28
        +2
        I'm just wondering what clever one drew them such a route

        I knew it ... So soon you will accuse our President of the attack ...
      2. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 10 November 2020 03: 25
        -3
        Yes, you have no one to reap. do not lie. just be glad that our government is toothless.
    5. Humpty
      Humpty 9 November 2020 22: 20
      14
      Quote: lexus
      to notify the opposing forces. Nothing supernatural.

      I will not report to you when and where, and as often happens, that military manned vehicles of neighboring countries fly a little deeper into the neighboring territory. It happens on a fool, it happens on an urgent matter. If it is recorded (this is not always), then in response DIPLOMATS WRITE a la "we saw you, this is not necessary." In this case, I see a deliberate attack on the Russian military.
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 9 November 2020 21: 28
    28
    For the fucking distant Karabakh not needed by Russia, they are ready to put more Russian little heads! I'm sorry for the boys.

    In my opinion, it is no longer a matter of Karabakh, it is a matter of the prestige of the state. As you put it, Russian soldiers will cut their heads if there is no tough answer. In the SAR, there was a slightly different case, but nevertheless, the Azerbaijanis drew courage from there. Who proposes to fight simply to transfer a large army unit and a mustache to the border of Nakhichevan. The Sultan and the Caucasian Pasha will bring the heads of all the guilty themselves, and then squeeze the Turks out of Idlib. Then there will be no provocations.
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 21: 30
    12
    Quote: Old Tankman
    How did all the sofa warriors want to rush to war?

    Here, rather, it is necessary to think for the screamers who constantly recited mantras that all this does not concern us. What do we have today? The death of security officials in Chechnya and our downed helicopter. This is if you completely forget about politics.
    Didn't touch, right?
  • Dreamboat
    Dreamboat 9 November 2020 21: 30
    -23 qualifying.
    Well, they waited for a provocation. The Armenians are defeated on all fronts, and here, by mistake, they shoot down our helicopter by mistake.
    It may have been shot down by the Azerbaijanis, but the Armenians could have arranged a provocation. It was enough to request "air support" via the radio exchange, so that all calculations with MANPADS would fire bullets into everything that appeared from the sky.
  • cmax
    cmax 9 November 2020 21: 50
    -6
    Quote: Old Tanker
    How did all the couch warriors want to rush to the war? Would you like to avenge the dead guys, take machine guns in your hands and take revenge on Azerbaijanis forward. Two dead are not enough for you? For the fucking distant Karabakh not needed by Russia, they are ready to put more Russian heads! I'm sorry for the boys. But I hope this will be the first and last Russian victim in this non-our war.

    And what, the missiles have already ended or they are only kept for parades. They are terpily and are terpily.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 9 November 2020 21: 52
    +7
    If we follow your thinking, then we do not need to fight for Russia either, but simply handing it over in parts, it will be enough to repeat the same mistakes and it's time to dot the "and" otherwise none of us will be shielded
  • Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 9 November 2020 21: 53
    +6
    There is a Turkish precedent. Are these türks better? Let's live without tomatoes. Works more efficiently than any special forces filthy broom.
  • Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 9 November 2020 22: 30
    -5
    Even cowards can unleash a war, but the brave have to fight its dangers.
    1. Garris199
      Garris199 9 November 2020 23: 16
      +1
      “England had to choose between war and shame. Its ministers chose shame, and they will get the war later. " Churchill.
  • Magadan
    Magadan 10 November 2020 03: 31
    -3
    Quote: Old Tankman
    I'm sorry for the boys. But I hope this will be the first and last Russian victim in this non-our war.

    Do you really believe in this?
    Putin and his friends with all their might scoff at Russia. It looks good they were all hooked by the Western puppeteers.
    You have seen all this "restoration of power". Either "you won't get off with tomatoes", now an apology is taken for our helicopter

    Perdogan and Aliyev made a gorgeous grunt in the face. Exactly on the day of the defeat of the Armenians. Well, you Zaputins, are you really that stupid? Or click on the keyboard for the salary of an official?

    You don't need to freak out either We must finally understand: the same enemies are in power that were under EBN. They just changed the slogans and that's it.
    And "Krymnash" is good. But Putin's Western puppeteers do not care deeply about whose Crimea. Kievan Rus or Moscow Rus.
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 10 November 2020 06: 18
    0
    Quote: Old Tankman
    How did all the couch warriors want to rush to the war?

    Hardly anyone really wants to rush. I guess we're talking about tomatoes again.
  • Vladimir Elderly
    Vladimir Elderly 10 November 2020 15: 37
    -1
    There is no couch attack here. Here the murder of Russian guys! And Azerbaijanis WILL LOVE it. You can't forgive this! And this won't happen in my city. Ekaterinburg.
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 9 November 2020 21: 12
    37
    There are no hostilities in Nakhichevan! Azerbaijanis shot down a Russian Military Helicopter over the territory of Armenia.
    By their stupidity - they turned on the CSTO protocol. Let them wait now ...
    1. flicker
      flicker 9 November 2020 21: 21
      22
      By their stupidity - they turned on the CSTO protocol
      Yes, the casus belli was created.
      We can issue an ultimatum.
      1. flicker
        flicker 9 November 2020 22: 18
        +3
        The best answer would be: stop hostilities, bring the parties to the negotiating table, and sign an agreement on the status of Karabakh.
        What is in the interests of Russia.
        ---
        In case of refusal, we can cause significant economic damage. There is a right to do so.
        1. NipponSpb
          NipponSpb 10 November 2020 01: 11
          +2
          Declare a no-fly zone, and shoot down everything that flies, let them fight a little without their favorite drones, after which it is significant to pacify both sides. To give the Azeri districts to the Azerbaijanis, no one lives there anyway, and make Karabakh a UN territory, or a protectorate of the Russian Federation, or whatever, but they don’t deserve to give anything to the Armenians.
          1. flicker
            flicker 10 November 2020 01: 54
            -1
            Declare no-fly zone
            By the way, a good option.
            but they don’t deserve to give anything to the Armenians.

            A lot of young Armenian guys died - they definitely deserve it.
            On the other hand, Armenia began to turn away from Russia and began to move towards NATO. She hoped that the West would recognize the independence of Karabakh, so she didn’t really prepare for the war - yes, they didn’t deserve it.
      2. Garris199
        Garris199 10 November 2020 02: 23
        0
        It seems that they have already nominated. An agreement was signed to end hostilities. Our peacekeepers follow to Karabakh.
    2. Nasdaq
      Nasdaq 9 November 2020 21: 21
      21
      The case will be hushed up.

      They will say face to face that they took it for an Armenian helicopter.
      There will be no military reaction.
      They will also pay compensation for material damage to the families of the pilots.
      1. the finish
        the finish 9 November 2020 21: 35
        +9
        But what about a military act directly on the territory of an ally? Before that, the village of David Bek was also bombed, practically in the same area, and recognized preventive strikes on equipment. Nobody noticed or pretended. And now it won't work because a Russian helicopter has already been shot down on the territory of the RA. Maybe by accident, but that's not the point, but an act of aggression towards an ally. Or can RA helicopters be shot down on the border with Nakhichevan outside the combat zone in Karabakh?
        1. Nasdaq
          Nasdaq 9 November 2020 21: 38
          +9
          Unfortunately, you did not understand my comment.
          I wrote not how it should be, but how most likely it will be.
          Politics is very dirty for everyone.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 21: 46
            +4
            Quote: Nasdaq
            Politics, it's very dirty, everyone has

            Only here in this mud no ridge can be felt. Unless only in matters such as pension reform and health care reform. Here our are brave and adamant. Here we act "at any cost". Because the people cannot get together and "impose sanctions" on the money of our "elites" in foreign banks, for example.
        2. mole
          mole 9 November 2020 22: 26
          +1
          Quote: finish
          But what about a military act directly on the territory of an ally? Before that, the village of David Bek was also bombed, practically in the same area, and recognized preventive strikes on equipment. Nobody noticed or pretended. And now it won't work because a Russian helicopter has already been shot down on the territory of the RA. Maybe by accident, but that's not the point, but an act of aggression towards an ally. Or can RA helicopters be shot down on the border with Nakhichevan outside the combat zone in Karabakh?

          In the Rostov region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine shelled settlements in 2014. It also seems to be accidental, and it does not seem to be the APU. There was nothing ... So, unfortunately, our clerks are comfortable. Nothing threatens them in warm offices. It's time to give a harsh or cruel answer. I hope Azerb plans within a week. go across the furrow. Or maybe this is their answer for the drones ?!
        3. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 10 November 2020 03: 29
          -1
          yes, as usual. that is, neither how. the history of recent years has been proven. Russian aircraft can be shot down. with impunity. and since with impunity, it will continue in the future.
      2. Bronekot
        Bronekot 9 November 2020 21: 45
        +2
        Moreover, since the days of the Su-24, we are all fuckers
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 9 November 2020 22: 33
          +2
          Quote: Bronekot
          Moreover, since the days of the Su-24, we are all fuckers

          Before the Su-24 of the Russian Aerospace Forces, it was shot down over the coast of the SAR F-4R, which carried out reconnaissance at low altitudes and shot down it by the PKK "Pantsir" evil tongues claim that it belonged to the RF Armed Forces ....
          For the Su-24, we ruffled the Turks' nerves by destroying their soldiers by "mistake", starting a war with fuel tankers and spontaneous fuel depots, damaged their tour industry and imposed sanctions for the supply of goods and services, the Kurds (?) Organized a terrorist attack in Turkey, where in Many Turkish military pilots were killed in buses, this of course will not compensate for the lost our pilot, but who said that there would be no answer?
          In the EU and in many BV countries, they will not cry if an inland sea and several strait zones in addition to the existing ones appear on the territory, because Erdogan got many ...
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 9 November 2020 22: 59
            0
            In the EU and in many BV countries, they will not cry if an inland sea and several strait zones in addition to the existing ones appear on the territory, because Erdogan got many ...


            Blah blah ... but the fact is that all and sundry can kick you and then he will have nothing. You also need to trade in gas and oil .... take care and mustache.

            If at night you take down the base from which the vassals of the Yedik shot, in the morning I will personally apologize, sprinkle ashes on my head, for these words. Until then, you are anxious ally and your CSTO is bullshit.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 9 November 2020 23: 24
              +1
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              In the EU and in many BV countries, they will not cry if an inland sea and several strait zones in addition to the existing ones appear on the territory, because Erdogan got many ...

              Blah blah ... but the fact is that all and sundry can kick you and then he will have nothing.

              Yes, you probably skipped history at school, talk to you, talk to the "ancient Ukrainians", maybe they will enlighten you, like the Russians pulled the Bulgarians out of the Turks (although they might say that it was the "ancient Sumerians" who pulled you out) ..., but in vain ... you have such a fate, either by the Turks, or under the Germans, or under the Americans to lie ... stay there ... if you were created for this, just lie in your usual position ...
              You also need to trade in gas and oil .... take care and mustache.

              According to the old habit since the CMEA times, you think someone else's good is forgivable, start with selling your pepper for now ...
              If at night you take down the base from which the vassals of the edik were shooting, in the morning I will personally apologize, sprinkle ashes on my head, for these words.

              Yes, your apologies to me ... and there will be ashes, if the Bulgarians are in NATU ... I don’t promise the absence of ashes ... there will be no time to divide into secret and hidden enemies ...
              Until then, you are a concerned ally

              Your task is not to be treated kindly by this "care" ... Bulgaria, there is something to compare with, so often you have been showered with it in your history ...
              your CSTO bullshit

              Like small children ..... I can see the banners of NATO countries from behind Erdogad's shoulders ... "they are rising" ... or you think they will appear from behind Bulgaria's shoulders, but you are a storyteller ....
      3. Lesorub
        Lesorub 9 November 2020 21: 50
        +2
        Yes, you are right, there will be no harsh answer - the Foreign Ministry will express "concern", at most will introduce some sanctions - only one thing scares - the emboldened "neighbors" may repeat the "mistake".
        Sincere condolences to the families of the victims.
      4. NipponSpb
        NipponSpb 10 November 2020 01: 18
        -1
        They will say face to face that they took it for an Armenian helicopter.

        They also had no right to shoot down an Armenian helicopter. When the Armenian dryer fell, no one acknowledged that it was shot down, Azerbaijan officially did not even shoot even once in the direction of Armenia, but here it fired for the first time and immediately hit our helicopter by accident. What a coincidence.
    3. figwam
      figwam 9 November 2020 21: 22
      24
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Azerbaijanis shot down a Russian Military Helicopter over the territory of Armenia.

      This was a deliberate murder of Russian servicemen in an area where there is no military action in the vicinity.
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 9 November 2020 21: 24
        18
        Quote: figvam

        This was a deliberate murder of Russian servicemen.

        On the territory of the CSTO member state. Tin.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 November 2020 21: 55
          +4
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Quote: figvam

          This was a deliberate murder of Russian servicemen.

          On the territory of the CSTO member state. Tin.

          It is possible that they themselves stole the victory
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 9 November 2020 22: 01
            +5
            Quote: Krasnodar

            It is possible that they themselves stole the victory

            Forgetting Russian proverbs. The Russians take a long time to harness, but they go fast!
            A slapstick working MANPADS - set up the whole of Azerbaijan!
            This is not Our War - but apparently there are many who want us to come to it.
            To the Azerbaijani Diaspora - It is certain that life will cease to seem like raspberries, although at least in Tyumen they behave calmly, there are very worthy people.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 November 2020 22: 36
              +4
              The Azerbaijani diaspora is not felt at all, to be honest. Well, excluding the wholesale of vegetables and fruits laughing
            2. zollstab
              zollstab 9 November 2020 22: 37
              +3
              They are being substituted by the Father of the fraternal people, Recep Taipovich, who is still dried fruit.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 9 November 2020 23: 35
                +3
                Quote: zollstab
                They are being substituted by the Father of the fraternal people, Recep Taipovich, who is still dried fruit.

                Yes, Aliyev is also not an ordinary guy, so Erdogan could hardly have set him up
            3. Skarpzd
              Skarpzd 10 November 2020 03: 36
              -1
              Hunter 2 (Alexey)


              It is possible that they themselves stole the victory

              Forgetting Russian proverbs. The Russians take a long time to harness, but they go fast!
              one annoying: there is no talk about driving at all. I'm not even sure that there is a desire to start harnessing.
          2. hydroy
            hydroy 9 November 2020 22: 29
            0
            Wait, the CSTO expressed "concern" ... although this is a military aggression by Azerbaijan!
    4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 21: 43
      0
      Quote: Hunter 2
      let them wait now

      It will be sad if they wait for the next concern
  • nnm
    nnm 9 November 2020 21: 14
    +1
    I totally agree, colleague!
  • Simfy
    Simfy 9 November 2020 21: 16
    -18 qualifying.
    In general, what was the helicopter doing near the border, next to the war zone ?! Again the stupidity of the command (
    1. zollstab
      zollstab 9 November 2020 21: 35
      10
      Completed the task.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 9 November 2020 21: 40
        +7
        Quote: zollstab
        Completed the task.

        accompanied the Russian column.
      2. Simfy
        Simfy 10 November 2020 09: 53
        0
        "performed" (((reconnaissance, assessment of the situation, forecasting ...
  • MTN
    MTN 9 November 2020 21: 25
    -30 qualifying.
    Quote: lexus
    For the loss of the helicopter, the death of two people and the injury of one of the crew members, including the base command, which did not ensure the safety of the departure, should be held responsible.

    So I wonder why the Azerbaijani side was not warned? Why fly so close to the border of a hundred MANPADS got it, knowing that there could be an incident. Why did you fly at low altitudes to make the radar difficult to reach? I am very interested in the answers to these questions. Now let's see the map.



    Here is the road and here are the mountains where the debris fell and now look where the border comes from? What was the helicopter doing there? Look at the road ..... where it runs from. This is the only part of the road from where in this region with the Azerbaijani border. The city from the article is surrounded by yellow. And with MANPADS from the border with Nakhichevan, this road is not visible. Mountains between them. The article also recognizes the wreckage on the mountains. Now the question. Why did the pilot fly from there? Who planned the route? Knowing that there is now a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

    And so if the Russian pilots and their family my deepest condolences. For some reason, I think that behind the mistake of the Azerbaijani, there was Armenian sabotage from the Russian base. As far as I know, there are many Armenians serving in different positions. It would be nice if they check this database ... IMHO
    1. List
      List 9 November 2020 21: 33
      34
      Is there a war going on between Armenia and Azerbaijan? Azerbaijan can shoot down Armenian helicopters on the territory of Armenia?
      1. 41 REGION
        41 REGION 10 November 2020 00: 24
        +2
        Quote: List
        Is there a war going on between Armenia and Azerbaijan? Azerbaijan can shoot down Armenian helicopters on the territory of Armenia?

        Is not it so request Let's not be silly but call things by their proper names. There is a war between Azerbaijan and Armenia, but so far on the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh
    2. Graz
      Graz 9 November 2020 21: 43
      12
      MTN (KGB school)
      this can only be washed off with blood, as a Russian I demand Azerbaijani blood
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        1. Tamparu
          Tamparu 9 November 2020 22: 40
          10
          Forgive me, Alena, but Russian pilots were at the helm of the "crocodile"! And what nationality they are. believe it, it doesn't matter! These are Russian pilots !!! Therefore, by ...
          I am not a bloodthirsty person, but everything has a measure, in my opinion, a purely personal opinion ...
        2. Graz
          Graz 9 November 2020 22: 56
          +5
          Alena-Baku
          it does not matter. I don’t know what our authorities will choose there, maybe they’ll get scared, for good there should be an ultimatum, or the transfer of those who shot down and gave the command to the Russian Federation for trial, or the Russian Federation strike at targets that, in the opinion of the Russian military, threaten the safety of Russian citizens
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        4. List
          List 9 November 2020 23: 56
          +1
          These pilots died elsewhere at a different time. In 2014, the Armenian Air Force.
        5. Doctor
          Doctor 10 November 2020 00: 01
          +3
          helicopter crew
          38 years old - Major Sergei Sahakyan
          25 years old - senior lieutenant Narkiz Nazaryan
          25 years old - Lieutenant Azata Sahakyan

          Where is the droushka?
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 9 November 2020 22: 39
        +2
        Quote: Graz
        MTN (KGB school)
        this can only be washed off with blood, as a Russian I demand Azerbaijani blood

        it will surely spill, incl. innocent Azerbaijanis ... however, if citizens of the Russian Federation die, innocent Azerbaijanis cannot exist in nature ...
    3. nobody75
      nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 12
      +2
      Don't worry ... they'll warn you now ...
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 9 November 2020 22: 13
      +6
      MTN, I knew you weren't smart, but I didn't think you were that smart!
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 9 November 2020 22: 31
        +6
        this is an Azerbaijani bot) or a person who is paid for comments)
    5. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 9 November 2020 22: 14
      +6
      Quote: MTN
      And with MANPADS from the border with Nakhichevan, this road is not visible. Mountains between them. The article also recognizes the wreckage on the mountains.

      You do not put your shadow on the fence. Where you have the "border" arrow point is the position of the military unit. And she is at the dominant height. Slightly to the right is another equipped position (zoom in on GoogleMaps and see everything). The road is perfectly visible from these positions. The distance is about 1,3 km. I think they were shooting from somewhere from there. Filmed from Yeraskh or Sadarak. The turntable fell rather somewhere in the area of ​​the word "mountains".
      1. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 9 November 2020 22: 46
        +3
        View from the Armenian road to the mountain range, where the Azerbaijani positions are located.
    6. Humpty
      Humpty 9 November 2020 22: 30
      +6
      Quote: MTN
      why was not the Azerbaijani side warned?

      And who are you there to be consulted. I am not a diplomat by vocation, I believe that the mildest option for resolving the issue, apart from paying all compensations, is giving the Russian side the entire circle of those directly responsible for the attack on the helicopter.
    7. Maximilian37
      Maximilian37 10 November 2020 00: 49
      0
      Nobody wants to argue with you, as with an experienced PR person. there will be a very long discussion with incomprehensible conclusions. For you, this is work, but for others, personal time. The number of minuses to each of your answers speaks for itself, I hope you do not think that only Armenians are minus you!
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 9 November 2020 21: 33
    +5
    Quote: lexus
    For the loss of the helicopter, the death of two people and the injury of one of the crew members, including the base command, which did not ensure the safety of the departure, should be held responsible.

    Greetings! hi And from what point should it ensure the safety of departure over the territory of Armenia?
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 9 November 2020 21: 40
    -2
    He will be dealt with most closely and there will be more questions than you write. Questions not only about the safety of departure.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 9 November 2020 21: 58
    +5
    Quote: lexus
    Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry confirmed the loss of the Mi-24 helicopter, which accompanied the convoy of the 102nd Russian military base through the territory of Armenia in the airspace near the Armenian settlement of Yeraskh near the border of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic. The helicopter was shot down by MANPADS in the airspace of Armenia outside the combat zone.


    Quote: lexus
    For the loss of a helicopter, the death of two people and the injury of one of the crew should be held accountable, including by the base command that did not ensure the safety of the departure.


    Do you have any idea in these conditions the safety of departure ?! WHAT, should the Russian Federation have provided a "scorched desert" for a helicopter flight for a hundred miles around ?!
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 10 November 2020 00: 31
      +2
      Quote: Corona without virus
      WHAT, should the Russian Federation have provided a "scorched desert" for a helicopter flight for a hundred miles around ?!

      I don't see anything bad in the scorched desert, they would always do this, and no one would knock down anything request
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 10 November 2020 07: 21
    -1
    Quote: lexus
    For the loss of the helicopter, the death of two people and the injury of one of the crew members, including the base command, which did not ensure the safety of the departure, should be held responsible.

    Excuse me, but how was it supposed to ensure safety? Only if you warn Azerbaijan about the departure. And where was the convoy going?
  • Vladimir Elderly
    Vladimir Elderly 10 November 2020 15: 17
    -1
    Who are you? Azerbaijanis shot down our helicopter over the territory of Armenia. What is the safety of departure, what do you smoke? He called himself a Lexus, you can't even pull a GAZ-A!
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 9 November 2020 21: 06
    25
    The only positive thing (if I may say so) is that everything quickly became clear. There is no ground for fortune-telling and false speculations on the topic "Armenia has framed / wants to involve". BUT. A simple apology should not be satisfied here. There should be a trial over those who missed real deadlines, compensation to families, shoulder straps from commanders should fly.
    1. Vicontas
      Vicontas 9 November 2020 21: 18
      17
      Well, chichas Azerbaijanis in Russia will become very uncomfortable! And the diaspora and its loot can be very much "facilitated"! And the Armenians will certainly want to help with this! In 2008, when Georgian troops attacked Russian peacekeepers, many Georgians flew from Russia ahead of their own screeching and revoked passports with Russian citizenship!
    2. Bronekot
      Bronekot 9 November 2020 21: 47
      +2
      The court is not that. There should be an immediate strike on the area from the Russian troops
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 9 November 2020 22: 22
        -5
        Quote: Bronekot
        There should be an immediate strike on the area from the Russian troops

        And then Turkey for Azerbaijan, NATO for Turkey, Grandma for Dedka, Dedka for a turnip ... Unfortunately, this is not an option. But to throw nishtyachkov to the Armenians, a couple of seasons of Russo tourists are not allowed in Turkey - this is at least some answer to the death of our guys. And since we live in a free market, we have the right to choose what and from whom to buy. Or not buy ...
        1. Bronekot
          Bronekot 11 November 2020 16: 52
          +1
          This is different. It's a shame for the state
      2. Maximilian37
        Maximilian37 10 November 2020 01: 59
        -1
        Have you already gone to the military registration and enlistment office, submitted documents? or do you have "flat feet"?
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 9 November 2020 21: 09
    27
    If it is like a joke, then we will lose the remnants of respect in the Caucasus!
    1. SSR
      SSR 9 November 2020 21: 41
      -2
      Quote: Ru_Na
      If it is like a joke, then we will lose the remnants of respect in the Caucasus!

      Do you think that stupid bulls are respected in the Caucasus or lions who tear everyone in a row?
      However, narrow and outlook to the point, if only everyone who is incomprehensible and what you yourself do not have to blame.
      Azerbaijanis are already worthy of recognition for immediately admitting their guilt. Turks, Jews and Ukrainians, twirled like worms on tin.
      1. 41 REGION
        41 REGION 10 November 2020 00: 34
        0
        Quote: SSR
        Azerbaijanis are already worthy of recognition for immediately admitting their guilt

        I agree with this, as a man, although this does not make it easier
        1. SSR
          SSR 10 November 2020 03: 14
          0
          Quote: 41 REGION
          Quote: SSR
          Azerbaijanis are already worthy of recognition for immediately admitting their guilt

          I agree with this, as a man, although this does not make it easier

          Yes, just tin, how insulting for the dead guys and then you still need to figure out what kind of column, why and so on.
          You can't do it back.
  • Russian Moldavian
    Russian Moldavian 9 November 2020 21: 09
    14
    However ... Quickly, they did not pull and smear ...
  • Borik
    Borik 9 November 2020 21: 10
    +6
    Now we need to demand compensation from Azerbaijan for the loss of the helicopter. And also to call to criminal responsibility those responsible for the murder of two and wounding another person, as well as to pay monetary compensation to relatives.
    1. Russian Moldavian
      Russian Moldavian 9 November 2020 21: 14
      +9
      Quote: Borik
      Now we need to demand compensation from Azerbaijan for the loss of the helicopter. And also to call to criminal responsibility those responsible for the murder of two and wounding another person, as well as to pay monetary compensation to relatives.

      This is not enough Boris
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 9 November 2020 22: 45
        0
        Quote: Russian Moldovans
        Quote: Borik
        Now we need to demand compensation from Azerbaijan for the loss of the helicopter. And also to call to criminal responsibility those responsible for the murder of two and wounding another person, as well as to pay monetary compensation to relatives.

        This is not enough Boris

        Evil tongues claim that there are many ISIS militants in the combat zone who pose a threat to the whole world, it seems the time for the RF Armed Forces to help the world to eliminate this threat, even if it comes from the territory of Azerbaijan ... on which there are no hostilities. but where are the above militants hiding ...
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 9 November 2020 21: 17
      +4
      They will pay compensation .. The Azerbaijanis will pay off ..! You killed our boys .. And now you are paying off. You are trying to shove a bribe. Accustomed to living with bribes ... Blood, for blood ... do not pay off.
    3. SSR
      SSR 9 November 2020 21: 28
      +6
      Quote: Borik
      Now we need to demand compensation from Azerbaijan for the loss of the helicopter. And also to call to criminal responsibility those responsible for the murder of two and wounding another person, as well as to pay monetary compensation to relatives.

      I quote and don't understand.
      Acknowledged and confirmed A mistake, B apology, C compensation.
      What kind of criminal case are we talking about?
      Comrades from the mountains? Turks, Iranians, Ukrainians, Americans where there are tens of times more victims of their attacks, where are the criminal cases?
      Are you adequate? Only logs are sewn for birch.
      Both sides are disgusting to me, two old women with eternal enmity, but we hold the base with one and must understand the risks, there is a war.
      The Azerbaijanis admitted their mistake, apologized, promised compensation, everything is as it was hundreds of years ago, for ...
      I have a different question and it is to our side. Another parquet general?
    4. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 9 November 2020 21: 30
      +1
      ... compensate for the loss of the helicopter. And also to call to criminal responsibility those responsible for the murder of two and wounding another person, as well as to pay monetary compensation to relatives.

      AZs expressed their readiness to pay and compensate. What to demand if they already agree?
      1. Borik
        Borik 9 November 2020 21: 50
        -1
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Today, 21: 30

        -2
        ... compensate for the loss of the helicopter. And also to call to criminal responsibility those responsible for the murder of two and wounding another person, as well as to pay monetary compensation to relatives.

        AZs expressed their readiness to pay and compensate. What to demand if they already agree?


        And not a word about punishing the guilty. And how much do they give for the murder of two people? And you think that the Azerbaijani authorities will agree to this. Here is one option - they will provide someone's corpse and will assure that it is he who is guilty of launching the rocket.
      2. lelik613
        lelik613 10 November 2020 05: 19
        0
        Compensation must be the heads of the guilty.
    5. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 November 2020 21: 34
      -1
      Quote: Borik
      criminalize murder

      Azerbaijan has armed thousands of terrorists from Syria and allowed them to walk in Transcaucasia. Look for fistulas now, which one of them turned out to be with MANPADS near the flight route of our turntable.
    6. Bakinec
      Bakinec 9 November 2020 21: 42
      -13 qualifying.
      Of course, there will be compensation. But no criminal prosecution of Azerb. there will be no military. Because martial law and the helicopter flew at low altitude and without warning. Criminal prosecution may be against those responsible from the Russian base (most likely Armenians) who sent the helicopter to the border.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 9 November 2020 22: 20
        +4
        Bakinec a blockhead!
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 9 November 2020 22: 51
        -6
        Quote: Bakinec
        But no criminal prosecution of Azerb. there will be no military.

        I will not agree. There will be corpses of Azerbaijanis 100 to 1 minimum ....
        Because martial law and the helicopter flew at low altitude and without warning.

        Whom should he warn if he was flying over the territory of Armenia?
        Criminal prosecution may be against those responsible from the Russian base

        It is unlikely (and it is a pity) for sending the Su-24 without cover for fighters in the SAR, no one sat down ...
  • private person
    private person 9 November 2020 21: 12
    +3
    The reaction of our Foreign Ministry to such a confession is interesting

    So it was to be expected, apologies and all. What can the Foreign Ministry answer? Accept the fact and the apology with the consequences. Well, don't send the RF Armed Forces there. After all, this is just what the "friends of the Russian Federation" are waiting for. The question is, who gave the order for the turntable to fly to the zone?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 9 November 2020 21: 49
      +4
      Quote: private person
      The question is, who gave the order for the turntable to fly to the zone?

      What area is B / D? Where is Karabakh, and where is the border with Nakhichevan? It's just that someone wanted to become like a hero, that's how we shoot down Armenian helicopters ... oops ... and he's Russian. In America, during the deer hunting season, corpses are regularly brought in, as if I saw something stirring in the bushes, sniffed, hit, went for the carcass - oops, and this is friend Joe, with whom they sentenced a bottle of whiskey before the hunt.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 November 2020 22: 01
      +2
      Quote: private person
      The reaction of our Foreign Ministry to such a confession is interesting

      So it was to be expected, apologies and all. What can the Foreign Ministry answer? Accept the fact and the apology with the consequences. Well, don't send the RF Armed Forces there. After all, this is just what the "friends of the Russian Federation" are waiting for. The question is, who gave the order for the turntable to fly to the zone?

      Armenia and the Persians are afraid of a campaign to connect with Nakhichevan (the latter do not want Israeli intelligence bases there)
      RF demonstrates presence to prevent this from happening
      1. private person
        private person 9 November 2020 22: 09
        0
        RF demonstrates presence to prevent this from happening

        I am a Russian and I am opposed to demonstrating my presence in this way. On the count of the one who gave such an order.
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 9 November 2020 21: 14
    +1
    They will express grief, regret, and will ask to continue to propose to eject, and then only shoot down.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 9 November 2020 21: 16
    -5
    They will pay compensation .. They will pay off .. Aze ry! You killed our boys .. And now you are paying off. You are trying to shove a bribe. Accustomed to living with bribes ... Shameful hucksters ... Blood, for blood ... do not pay off.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 18
      +8
      Quote: 30 vis
      don't buy it off.

      oh, I can't believe it, unfortunately ...
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 9 November 2020 21: 23
      +7
      What is such a "response"? We'll wake up as usual ... We've already done something like this with "tomatoes" ... and then they saved the organizer, who was kind of "niprich", .... moreover, they saved it like their own head ... HPP was, everyone knows ... winked
      1. private person
        private person 9 November 2020 22: 19
        -1
        We'll climb up as usual ..

        What did we do there? And on what basis? No need to wave a saber, but you need to figure out why our guys flew there? Azera pleaded guilty.
        1. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 10 November 2020 03: 50
          +1
          listen, private person. don't care what we did there, and pile a big pile on the bases. What about the Azeri confessions to the relatives of the dead guys? the question is different. until when will any bastard kill Russian servicemen with impunity? a simple question like that.
          1. private person
            private person 10 November 2020 11: 15
            0
            until when will any bastard kill Russian servicemen with impunity?

            Are you sure that there is impunity?
    3. zollstab
      zollstab 9 November 2020 21: 40
      0
      Here is hysterics for nothing at all. Do not be like primitive.
  • mr.Man
    mr.Man 9 November 2020 21: 20
    -4
    Not a reporter comparison with a rapist ...
    It's like a war and there are nuances ...
    And you need to be far away from someone else's war ...
    What should be the reaction for a downed helicopter? (she will be, but not the same as some want)
    Nakhichevan bomb Russia because of the downed helicopter and the dead people, and even multiplying the dead in the end?
    Rave...
  • Maz
    Maz 9 November 2020 21: 20
    +7

    Very similar to a provocation, and a pre-planned
    1. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 9 November 2020 21: 40
      +2
      And the provocation had to be voiced by a voice - "UAV!"?
  • Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 9 November 2020 21: 24
    26
    Quote: Sauron80
    The reaction of our Foreign Ministry to such a confession is interesting

    Unfortunately, this is not the first time that such fatal "mistakes" in relation to us have gotten away with. For those who shot down our plane / helicopter, it is enough just to apologize, well, they can transfer compensation.
    P. c. The position of our "leadership" in such cases causes nothing but contempt
    1. Bronekot
      Bronekot 9 November 2020 21: 56
      +3
      I agree. Concern for being knocked down. Contempt only causes
  • deniso
    deniso 9 November 2020 21: 30
    16
    Formally, even if they were aiming at an Armenian helicopter. He flew over Armenia. This means that an ally of Russia has been attacked. It remains for the State Department to tell the whole world that he is the best guarantor for the allies. And Erdogan showed everyone that one can simply apologize to Azerbaijan for shelling a foreign state
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 9 November 2020 21: 30
    12
    Quote: Sauron80
    The reaction of our Foreign Ministry to such a confession is interesting. Or will it be like a joke - the bride's honor has been restored, the rapist has apologized?

    In order to restore honor, a couple of three Azeybardzhan regiments must be razed to the ground ... and then say, OOPS ... and do it not in the format of the war between Armenia and Azebarjan, but in response to UN-FRIENDLY actions against the citizens of the Russian Federation. So that after not Azeibarzhan, not Turkey, not the United States, they would not even think of doing something similar in our direction.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 40
      +3
      Think Faberge is enough?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 9 November 2020 21: 42
        +6
        Quote: Sauron80
        Think Faberge is enough?

        Enough. Only the question is not in Faberge, but in how much the Kremlin loves money in comparison with its face.
        1. Sauron80
          Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 53
          16
          Well, after the plane shot down by the Turks, the plane shot down by Israel (it was Israel, although they didn’t press the button), the confiscated diplomatic property, the Skripals, the Olympics under the white flag, the pension reform and the outright failure of medicine after the “reform” about the “face”, it’s even somehow inconvenient remember.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 9 November 2020 21: 57
            +4
            Quote: Sauron80
            about "face" even as it is inconvenient to remember.

            Here I am about ... and when this happens, our helmsmen say, like that husband to his wife, who is raped in front of him, be patient, dear, maybe everything will work out.
        2. rudolff
          rudolff 9 November 2020 21: 55
          +8
          Do the Kremlin inmates have any face there? As well as Faberge. Some show-offs are cheap. Russia will soon start wiping with toilet paper. For now, they just spit in the back.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 9 November 2020 22: 01
            +7
            Quote: rudolff
            For now, they just spit in the back.

            Friends, not in the back for a long time, but in the face. And our helmsmen are wiped off, and continue to partner, because there is nothing more important for TORGASH than tugriks, funtik, eureka and so on ...
            I have said many times that our soldiers do not defend their homeland, but are watchdogs to guard our helmsmen and their wealth, already dug from the depths, and those that are going to get it.
    2. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd 10 November 2020 03: 56
      0
      fully agreed. with what there is, after all, the means to strike from a great distance. and to justify everything is very simple. according to intelligence, there are international terrorists in point a. they are destroyed. the Azerbaijani side is invoiced for the spent ammunition. and only after that apologies for the downed helicopter are accepted. with corresponding compensation to the RF and the relatives of the victims.
  • vkl.47
    vkl.47 9 November 2020 21: 36
    +4
    The spinner is not protected at all? Where are the heat traps?
  • Garris199
    Garris199 9 November 2020 21: 54
    +3
    Iskander smash the Azeri General Staff and apologize. Oh, the wrong button was pressed. It happens..
  • maiman61
    maiman61 9 November 2020 22: 07
    -5
    And there was no need to play the fool! What the hell is flying near a war zone! Tear off the head of the smart guy who sent this helicopter! Something snot let up, that we have equipment on helicopters that protects against MANPADS. And where is she! Tear off the head of the one who sent this helicopter without this equipment! These boobies are worse than enemies!
  • Stepan53274
    Stepan53274 9 November 2020 22: 11
    -5
    Armenian provocation. A helicopter with Armenians serving at the 102nd base flew a kilometer from the border of the countries leading active hostilities, why did the authorities of the 102nd base not plot a safer route?
  • Maz
    Maz 9 November 2020 22: 12
    +9
    Abbasjuma:
    Market huckster logic. We will pay off with money. Let's decide. Because you yourself are to blame. Neighbors are probing boundaries.
    I am not a politician, I am a journalist and historian. Fortunately for the CIS neighbors. Because in my completely personal, and possibly erroneous view, based on the realities of the East, as well as historical experience, the correct answer would be this.
    Keep silent. And strike at the positions of the unit from where the helicopter was shot down.
    Then, using the forces of the VSK, iron the Idlib gadyushnik for three days.
    Do not answer any calls from 'partners'. Don't pay attention to tantrums. Put the entire Caspian flotilla out to sea.
    Prohibit money transfers to Azerbaijan.

    And only after that summon the ambassador of Azerbaijan. Or you may not call it. The thing is that the best and most effective diplomats in the history of Russia, or rather the Empire, were generals. Their diplomacy was of great benefit, and silence on the outskirts.

    Chernyaev, Kaufman, Ermolov, Muravyov, Alikhanov-Avarsky. I can make a big list.

    And of course, when the neighbors knew that Russia would undoubtedly use military force, they behaved very restrainedly.

    However, this is still history. But even now, some of the rules of a hundred and fifty years ago work quite well.

    From my point of view, it would be strange to leave this situation unanswered. This the Americans can swallow when missiles are thrown at their base in Iraq.

    This luxury is not available to us. Because the country, which returned the Crimea and the barmaleevs in Syria, rolled out to be silent beyond the rank.
    I think so.

    https://t.me/Abbasdjuma/7136
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 9 November 2020 22: 35
      0
      Quote: Maz
      Because the country, which returned the Crimea and the barmaleevs in Syria, rolled out to be silent beyond the rank.

      It was not our politicians who rolled the dushmans this way, but the military. At the same time, what we essentially forgot there, the question is very rhetorical. About the brotherhood of peoples, mutual assistance and the restoration of peace and justice from purely spiritual qualities, it is not necessary to speak, as it was in the USSR, but not in the Russian Federation. Even the last down understands why we are in Syria, and these fiery speeches of our helmsmen about the Greatness of Russia, in the light of how they react to outright sabotage and murder of our citizens, can be sent to Sportloto for a long time.
      Quote: Maz
      Keep silent. And strike at the positions of the unit from where the helicopter was shot down.
      Then, using the forces of the VSK, iron the Idlib gadyushnik for three days.

      Not to destroy this unit, but two or three regiments of the Azeibarjan warriors, so that for 300 years to discourage not only they should try, but also the Turks.
    2. Trickster
      Trickster 10 November 2020 00: 57
      +1
      I am not a politician, I am a journalist and historian.
      Lucky for you.

      Because this would only lead to the fact that with two strikes our two bases would be turned into cemeteries, after which the Turks staged a full-fledged war in Syria, and would overthrow Assad faster than you could do anything.
      Of course, you could try to fight further, but in that case you would have to fight NATO in full force, and given the state of our economy, the end would be predictable. Thank God, unlike you, he is wise and does not suffer from fits of rage and stupidity.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 10 November 2020 04: 02
        0
        Base attacks? How much does Russia need poplar m to turn the Turks into a desert in return? I think a dozen is enough and which of the NATO terrorists wants to die for the king from Yao? Again "sanctions" will be introduced.
  • Maz
    Maz 9 November 2020 22: 38
    +5
    The convoys constantly go along this road to the Russian base in Armenia and are always accompanied by a helicopter. So the excuse of the Azerbans is thought out in advance, the camera is pointed in advance, the shot is calculated in advance, this is pure provocation. Boeing in Ukraine, su-24 in syria, mi-24 in armenia - the handwriting is the same. I would also add IL-18 in Syria.

    Yerevan is in constant contact with Moscow in connection with the downed Russian helicopter, the actions of Baku are an act of aggression, Armenian Ambassador to Russia Vardan Toganyan told RIA Novosti.
  • well
    well 9 November 2020 22: 48
    0
    Exactly. Let's go to the morning once again.
  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 9 November 2020 22: 59
    +1
    There was already one such case, by the way, almost the same. After all, it is not clear who was the operator of the anti-aircraft missile system. I hope this time they will not get off with tangerines in the place of tomatoes. I'm not pumping at all. Once we have sincerely confessed within such an acceptable time frame, this should be counted. But it is necessary to explain that behind them there is already a concrete jamb, and in the next time, regardless of the circumstances, you will have to answer in aggregate, taking into account intentionality.
  • Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 10 November 2020 04: 29
    0
    I think the response from our government will be very tough. Several convoy caravans with humanitarian aid will be sent to Azerbaijanis for sure ..
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 10 November 2020 04: 44
    0
    Express "concern"!
  • Cron
    Cron 9 November 2020 20: 59
    25
    Think what you want, but in Nakhichevan they should generally sit below the grass and quieter than water, fearing in any way to drag the Russian Federation into the conflict, even by allowing provocations from Armenia. They are just wiping their feet on Russia
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  • drd1ablo
    drd1ablo 9 November 2020 20: 59
    -27 qualifying.
    Condolences to relatives (This is a tragic mistake.
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 00
      31
      yeah, and they shot this mistake on the video and knew that they would make this mistake)
      1. Nasdaq
        Nasdaq 9 November 2020 21: 31
        +2
        yeah, and they shot this mistake on the video and knew that they would make this mistake)

        They thought that they were shooting a peremog (they wanted to shoot down an Armenian helicopter and put it on the net), but it was zrada.
        The case will definitely be hushed up.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 32
        -5
        To be honest, the video does not show the helicopter at all, and since everyone has phones and cameras, operators can be anywhere at any time.
      3. maiman61
        maiman61 9 November 2020 22: 10
        0
        And it never occurs to the mind that the helicopter roars so much that you can hear it before it appears! Well, they aimed the smartphone camera at the sound. What's so surprising?
    2. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 9 November 2020 21: 15
      -9
      This is a tragic mistake by the Kremlin and the Russian Defense Ministry.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 9 November 2020 20: 59
    11
    yes yes yes like in Syria when the Turks shot down a plane
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 33
      -2
      No, then the Turks immediately began to wriggle - and then Azerbaijan quickly admitted guilt.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 9 November 2020 21: 46
        +6
        Quote: Vadim237
        The Turks immediately began to wriggle

        Only it didn’t help them, and a suddenly fragmented bus with Turkish pilots was recorded on the Kurds, who almost simultaneously and also suddenly received a shipment of weapons from unknown sources.
  • Tzar
    Tzar 9 November 2020 21: 01
    +8
    Quote: Sauron80
    The reaction of our Foreign Ministry to such a confession is interesting. Or will it be like a joke - the bride's honor has been restored, the rapist has apologized?

    Should require the issuance of a MANPADS calculation for the court, together with the duty commander. If they take it in money, it will be a shame.
    1. faiver
      faiver 9 November 2020 21: 09
      +5
      So it would be a shame for Aliyev to give up his servicemen ...
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 9 November 2020 21: 34
        +2
        Quote: faiver
        So it would be a shame for Aliyev to give up his servicemen ...

        He won't give up. Nobody would give.
      2. Nasdaq
        Nasdaq 9 November 2020 21: 35
        +3
        So it will be a shame for Aliyev to give up his servicemen

        Why give? They themselves will be condemned for negligence, after six months they will quietly pardon and restore them to the service. Unless, of course, it comes to that.
        In the meantime, an apology and compensation. Well, condolences to the relatives of the yadren-loaf.
        1. faiver
          faiver 9 November 2020 21: 37
          +4
          Sami will be condemned for negligence
          - will not be judged
        2. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 9 November 2020 23: 02
          0
          If condemned, there is no point in pardoning, extra hemorrhoids can come out. Well, these are not fighters. In half a year it is quite possible to prepare a calculation of anti-aircraft missiles without skeletons in the closet.
    2. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 21: 11
      13
      There is no such option at all from the word at all. Or we consider this incident as a "casus belli" and start military operations against Azerbaijan, if we are sure that this is a deliberate attack on us, and before that we took all measures to exclude threats to us in the combat zone. Or we accept an apology and compensation.
      Or or, there are no other options.
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 9 November 2020 21: 42
        +1
        ... Or we consider this incident as a "casus belli" and begin military action against

        Deja vu ..... The second wave is 'a knife in the back' and 'won't you get off with tomatoes'?
        What nafig casus belli? He is needed by those who are looking for him. Russia, on the other hand, was not going to fight there and is not going to. Military presence close alien The theater of operations provides for the risks of such incidents.
        ... Or we accept an apology and compensation.
        yes because
        ... there are no other options.
        1. Azimuth
          Azimuth 9 November 2020 21: 48
          +1
          I didn’t express my opinion, but wrote about possible IN GENERAL options.

          Regarding compensation, I agree with you, but neither you nor I are not VVP, Lavrov, Naryshkin or Shoigu, but the decision is theirs, infa about the current situation and the prospects for its development are clearly more accurate.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 9 November 2020 22: 27
            +1
            ... but neither you nor I are VVP, Lavrov, Naryshkin or Shoigu, but the decision is theirs,

            Of course, colleague, of course. But, you know, it's sad to see a crowd of idiots on VO, expectedly demanding a spectacular AT-ta-ta performed by the VKS to satisfy them, sofa makers, a dull understanding of the meaning of 'national pride'.
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 9 November 2020 22: 34
              -2
              But, you know, it's sad to see a crowd of idiots on VO, expectedly demanding a spectacular AT-ta-ta performed by the VKS to satisfy them, sofa makers, a dull understanding of the meaning of 'national pride'.

              Personally, I never doubted you ...
  • Ripap
    Ripap 9 November 2020 21: 01
    19
    How will we do it this time? Tangerines or tomatoes? Maybe it's time to burn a couple of military warehouses with calibers? Well, purely as a measure of suggestion?
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 02
      +6
      business in Azerbaijan is not allowed, the pipe goes by 30% to the British and the EU)
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 9 November 2020 21: 19
        +9
        Quote: opuonmed
        no business in Azerbaijan

        Yes, you can cover up the business, a lot of things could be, there would be a desire. But let's see.
    2. Sailor
      Sailor 9 November 2020 21: 29
      13
      What tangerines, what are you talking about, now persimmon! But it's a shame for the state! Soon, in this situation, our pilots will be afraid to fly out on a mission, otherwise they will knock down some Papuans and send a box of bananas as an apology. And they shot it down for a reason, Nakhichevan is not close to Karabakh.
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    4. NI1
      NI1 10 November 2020 05: 12
      0
      This is just wishlist and idle talk. It is perfectly clear that no one will zhakhat, we will humbly accept the apology of the Azerbaijani side, we can still receive some monetary compensation for the relatives of the victims and ... and that's enough, indeed!

      Your desires are far from reality. Everything will be simpler, it will be as always: you need to bury the men and take another stab in the back.
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 9 November 2020 21: 01
    14
    General Ermolov, Generalissimo Suvorov where are you.
  • farm2009
    farm2009 9 November 2020 21: 01
    21
    Yes, in general, do not care who it is directed against. A Russian helicopter was shot down in the airspace of Armenia. What is this if not an attack on a member of the CSTO in general and on Russia in particular?
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 22
      0
      Quote: farm2009
      Yes, in general, do not care who it is directed against. A Russian helicopter was shot down in the airspace of Armenia. What is this if not an attack on a member of the CSTO in general and on Russia in particular?

      tomorrow we will see maybe how with the Turks maybe we will answer as soon as we can
    2. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 21: 26
      +2
      Either an attack or a tragic incident. Officially, formally there are only TWO options.

      There is also a third, but for this you need to know exactly who and why sent the turntable there, and at such a time. I can write in plain text, although in the case of Azerbaijanis, this cannot be done. A variant is possible, we are only talking about a variant so that no one starts throwing slippers right away. The residency of the US Embassy also worked on our base, you have to be a complete idiot not to understand this. The position of their protege Pashinyan and their forces around him became very precarious after a series of defeats. If someone got out of ours, then mattress makers could well concoct this little business. But this is only an option.

      Whoever saw the video on Twitter how they were shot down - I do not believe in such accidents, when at NIGHT or more precisely at dusk, they "accidentally" shoot such shots knowing exactly the direction ... Or Option A - the helicopter made more than one approach, circle, flight (as it is correct for the flyers) and even a local from the border Azerbaijani village watched and filmed focusing on the sound of the turntable, or Option B the videographer knew from the very beginning WHERE and WHEN. In this and in the other case, the conclusions for us with this option are generally not the most pleasant.

      The option, they say, Azerbaijan attacked - does not stand up to criticism, but if we need it, then we can use it and we will not dig in. Still, the story about the Arabs of mercenaries and we were not at all a pro was ridiculous and clearly far-fetched, to use it as an excuse would not be entirely that, but here everything is clear.
      A variant of a tragic accident - it happens, there is no way ... And without the nervous atmosphere of a state of war, we shoot down our planes by bungling, remember the incident with the Su-30 and Su-35.

      So the decision will be purely political, even in the case of military measures and actions. Let's see what VVP and his comrades decide and how they use this incident.
      1. maktub
        maktub 9 November 2020 21: 33
        -3
        Option C: - "so it was necessary", did you consider it?
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 9 November 2020 23: 09
          +2
          Option D. The anti-aircraft missile system is, as it were, incomparable in price with a mobile phone. Mobile came along as a videotape recorder that the anti-aircraft missile system worked on the target, and not sold / drunk. The fact that the goal was not the same ... so the mobile did its job, proved that it was not sold. The rest is not actually related to video recording.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 37
      -3
      Have already admitted a mistake - what an attack. Here, the question arises to those who sent this helicopter to the Azerbaijani border, knowing perfectly well that both Armenians and Azerbaijanis are on their nerves and have already used weapons against each other.
    4. Lontus
      Lontus 9 November 2020 21: 37
      +1
      Quote: farm2009
      What is this if not an attack on a CSTO member in general and on Russia in particular?

      First of all, this is an attack on Russia.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 9 November 2020 21: 02
    +5
    The foreign ministry of the republic said that the helicopter was shot down by accident, Azerbaijan expresses its condolences, apologizes to the Russian side and is ready to pay compensation. At the same time, it is emphasized that this incident is in no way directed against Russia.

    And what of this apology? Condolences to the relatives of those killed.
  • Konstantin Shevchenko
    Konstantin Shevchenko 9 November 2020 21: 02
    0
    This is a direct attack on Armenia. We are waiting for decisions from the CSTO, not only Russia should harness.
    1. Stavros
      Stavros 9 November 2020 21: 06
      16
      Fear God, what the fuck is the CSTO.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 9 November 2020 21: 28
      12
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      Russia is not the only one to harness.

      Nobody will be harnessed. Kazakhstan at the very beginning was for Baku.
    3. Azimuth
      Azimuth 9 November 2020 21: 37
      0
      We were late, it is not the first time that they "directly attack", remember the destroyed Elbrus OTRK ...
    4. deniso
      deniso 9 November 2020 21: 37
      -3
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      This is a direct attack on Armenia. We are waiting for decisions from the CSTO, not only Russia should harness.


      I wonder what kind of excuse this time the zero will come up with in order not to fulfill the contract!
    5. Bronekot
      Bronekot 9 November 2020 22: 08
      -1
      It attacked Russia !!!!
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 9 November 2020 21: 03
    +2
    Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
    This is a direct attack on Armenia. We are waiting for decisions from the CSTO, not only Russia should harness.


    The CSTO expresses grave concern over the tragic incident in Armenia that resulted in the downing of a Russian helicopter
  • Alien From
    Alien From 9 November 2020 21: 04
    0
    Well, if we swallow this too ......... am
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 40
      0
      And what are you going to do - you are to blame for the fact that no one in combat conditions was warned about the flight of the Mi 24 along the border of two already almost publicly warring countries.
  • Ham
    Ham 9 November 2020 21: 04
    +9
    a fault confessed is half redressed...
    compensation unfastened, repent - and forget ...
    shot down not on purpose it's obvious
    well, press down azerov in russia so that they can understand it more carefully
    1. Stavros
      Stavros 9 November 2020 21: 16
      +7
      The Turks shot down a plane, killed the ambassador, and cavtatars with Turkish flags are running around celebrating holidays. Shame and disgrace.
      1. Sauron80
        Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 20
        +1
        By the way, after, if the answer with the plane is more or less clear (tomatoes, pilots), then honestly I forgot - what was the answer for the ambassador?
      2. Ham
        Ham 9 November 2020 21: 25
        +4
        the ambassador was killed by a fanatic who, perhaps, was trained for this ...
        on the breakdown of Russian-Turkish relations ...
        the military who gave the order to bring down the drying - in prisons ... as state criminals
        1. Sauron80
          Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 46
          -2
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%B2_%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5_%D0%B2_%D0%A2%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5
          fanatics they are, this is not the first time they cut ambassadors
    2. Yura
      Yura 9 November 2020 21: 24
      +6
      Quote: Ham
      shot down not on purpose it's obvious

      It is not entirely obvious: - 1. the helicopter was shot down in the airspace of Armenia, 2. from the territory of Azerbaijan, 3. Azerbaijan is not at war with Armenia, it is at war with Nagorno-Karabakh and the Armenians there. A strike on the territory of Armenia and vice versa, brings the situation to a different level, and specifically to the war between Armenia and Karabakh. I am interested in the reaction of Armenia to this incident.
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 9 November 2020 21: 28
      11
      Quote: Ham
      a fault confessed is half redressed...
      compensation unfastened, repent - and forget ...
      shot down not on purpose it's obvious

      You didn't understand: any aerial object over Armenia MAY be Russian (there is a Russian base). This is an objective fact

      And this alone should have to death to seal all ZR in Nakhichevan.

      But it never occurred to them to be afraid of anything!
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 9 November 2020 22: 31
      0
      Quote: Ham

      shot down not on purpose it's obvious
      Filmed on video, too, not on purpose. They wanted aliens, but they removed the Russians. How so?
  • Counter Strike
    Counter Strike 9 November 2020 21: 04
    19
    Nakhichevan is generally a completely different front, on the opposite side of Nagorno-Karabakh, through Armenia. There is no fighting there. How could a helicopter flying along the border of Armenia and Nakhichevan have come under fire?
    If this shot were from Azerbaijan, relatively speaking continental, where direct hostilities are being conducted, then an accident could have taken place. But this is in a completely different place, and it smacks of the same handwriting as the Russian plane was once shot down by the Turks. Namely, a provocation to drag Russia into the conflict.
    1. Past the crocodile
      Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 21: 18
      +4
      Turks do not need a conflict with Russia. Rather, a check for lice. But Aliyev is doing everything to avoid aggravation.
    2. Simfy
      Simfy 9 November 2020 21: 31
      +1
      Quote: Counter Strike
      Nakhichevan is generally a completely different front, on the opposite side of Nagorno-Karabakh, through Armenia. There is no fighting there. How could a helicopter flying along the border of Armenia and Nakhichevan have come under fire?

      Yes, indeed ... in the area of ​​the village of Yeraskh
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 42
      -1
      He is a part of Azerbaijan, anyway - and they are in tough opposition with Armenia.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 9 November 2020 21: 04
    18
    If the helicopter flew through the territory of Armenia, then this is an act of attack on Armenia, and therefore Russia can respond within the framework of the CSTO, as Putin promised. Now I think ours will start to put pressure on Azerbaijan, frightening with a reply. Trade will begin about which we will never know.
    1. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 9 November 2020 21: 12
      +3
      Oha, another mnogohodovochka ..... Super duper mnogohodovochka and secret .... How already tired of this wiping of spits from the face of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Kremlin. Not Russia - but suffered some kind. But we shine at parades ..... Shame is shorter.
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 9 November 2020 21: 20
        -1
        There is no wiping out in politics, there is gain. Learn to think harder than a straight line. Politics is Lobachevsky's mathematician.
        1. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 9 November 2020 21: 35
          0
          I can think. But this word "policy and profit" can now be attributed to all the miscalculations and concessions made due to stupidity and short-sightedness, weakness, and sometimes cowardice? This is how the snake thinks about the benefits - "well, yes, they will behead me now, but then my skin will then be on the purse in the most expensive boutique."
  • mig29mks
    mig29mks 9 November 2020 21: 04
    +7
    Who else will kick us and apologize?
    1. Past the crocodile
      Past the crocodile 9 November 2020 21: 15
      +3
      Already there was no one left who did not kick. Next time, just no apology.
      In general, the leadership of Azerbaijan seems to be trying to reduce the cause of the conflict to zero.
      1. Sauron80
        Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 21
        0
        Well, they have no other options, so they run to run to apologize. They understand perfectly well that if our people find out themselves who shot down, and they find out, it will be much worse.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 43
          -2
          And who, apart from Azerbaijanis and Armenians, could have shot down there?
          1. Sauron80
            Sauron80 9 November 2020 22: 07
            0
            Well, first of all, it is beneficial for Armenia in order to involve Russia in the war. Therefore, it was impossible to exclude a provocation by Armenia.
        2. Bronekot
          Bronekot 9 November 2020 22: 17
          +1
          It's so clear to them who shot down. Need a tough fire response
    2. KAVBER
      KAVBER 9 November 2020 21: 27
      +6
      Yes, before it was "whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!", But now "whoever wipes his feet on us will be sorry!"
  • Cartalon
    Cartalon 9 November 2020 21: 05
    +7
    Well, in general, this is a casus belli as it is, wars and for less began.
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 9 November 2020 21: 05
    +5
    Quote: Tank Hard
    The foreign ministry of the republic said that the helicopter was shot down by accident, Azerbaijan expresses its condolences, apologizes to the Russian side and is ready to pay compensation. At the same time, it is emphasized that this incident is in no way directed against Russia.

    And what of this apology? Condolences to the relatives of those killed.


    It's like killing a person and then telling his relatives: “I'm sorry that happened.
    1. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 9 November 2020 21: 12
      0
      Quote: Misak Khananyan
      It's like killing a person and then telling his relatives: “I'm sorry that happened.

      Do you mean the murder in Volgograd?
  • the finish
    the finish 9 November 2020 21: 06
    +5
    Please note that we apologized because This is a Russian helicopter, then logically if it were an RA helicopter, it would be a matter of course to shoot down an RA helicopter on the territory of the RA.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 November 2020 21: 08
    +1
    Though I had the courage not to play up, but to honestly admit this monstrous mistake! I feel sorry for our guys, Honor them and may the Lord accept their souls, and we ourselves will bury the bodies!
  • Ural resident
    Ural resident 9 November 2020 21: 09
    16
    The statement of the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry is an open spit. First, at this time, how did they know who had shot down? Should have investigated at least. No, the application has been prepared. The video shows that they were shooting at close range, knowing perfectly well whose column was going. And if the Foreign Ministry's statement is translated into ordinary language, it will mean: “we declare that you do not fly here.” And everyone understood this.
  • Airdefense
    Airdefense 9 November 2020 21: 09
    11
    I didn't understand something, the Azerbaijanis thought it was a helicopter of the Armenian Armed Forces and shot it down over the territory of Armenia, in its purest form, an attack on a member of the CSTO, if Russia is lost, well, its authority will be multiplied by zero.
    Now we will see what the CSTO and Russia are worth as an ally.
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 11
      +2
      showed this video if you hit the teeth)
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 9 November 2020 21: 13
        +6
        Well, now it's Russia's turn, if it doesn't start providing military assistance to Armenia in any form, then Russia, as a geopolitical player, will lose its weight.
        1. opuonmed
          opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 15
          +1
          yes, all the Russian Federation, as well as with the Turks, will be rubbed out \ this is not our business, and so when they reach Moscow, they will start thinking with their heads
  • faterdom
    faterdom 9 November 2020 21: 09
    +9
    This is very bad, but still a window of opportunity has been opened for us to more decisively influence the situation, and finally establish a REAL truce under the threat of punishment for the helicopter.
    And the apology is still hanging in the air, not to be considered either accepted or not accepted.
    Cynical, but this is the real policy: there is a moment - take advantage.
    Slept - no moment!
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 9 November 2020 21: 09
    +4
    I hope it will come to Putin that if he forgives this too and leaves without a concrete and serious response, then even before the onset of 2024, all of Russia will be chanting "Go away! Go away! Go away!"
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 9 November 2020 21: 22
      +5
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      I hope it will come to Putin that if he forgives this too and leaves without a concrete and serious response, then even before the onset of 2024, all of Russia will be chanting "Go away! Go away! Go away!"

      This option is also possible. There must be understood this point.
      1. Cottager452
        Cottager452 9 November 2020 21: 47
        -5
        Come on, because of someone's stupidity or provocation, Russia should be harnessed to someone else's war to the detriment of its interests?
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 9 November 2020 21: 51
          +3
          Quote: Summer Resident452
          Come on, because of someone's stupidity or provocation, Russia should be harnessed to someone else's war to the detriment of its interests?

          Am I calling for war? There are many ways to put in place, from the collapse of business to the deportation of not very desirable elements (there are a lot of them), to recognize the Kurdish workers' party and the right of Kurds to self-determination within the borders of Turkey, boycott of goods and recreation, and a lot of everything. There would be a desire. hi
    2. Moskovit
      Moskovit 9 November 2020 21: 25
      13
      In the sky over Armenia (!) Azerbaijanis shot down a Russian helicopter. Soon they will start shooting down our helicopters and planes over Russia to the babble of Lavrov.
      There is no reason to expect anything intelligible from the Russian authorities. Azerbaijanis, I am sure, will reward their murderers, such is their custom, to reward those who beat out of the tishka.
      Even if it looks ridiculous, I urge you to boycott Azerbaijani goods, not buy anything from Azerbaijanis, refuse to work with Azerbaijani counterparties, never go to Baku. And let them rejoice that our people are not bloodthirsty.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 44
      -2
      Do not worry there will be no policy for impulsive decisions - as everyone here wants it.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 9 November 2020 21: 56
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        Do not worry there will be no policy for impulsive decisions - as everyone here wants it

        On the contrary, much can be done thoughtfully, but only something needs to be done, and not express concern again. request
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 November 2020 22: 16
          0
          And what to do - to seat them at the negotiating table again? We already know the outcome of these negotiations; it remains only to wait until the war ends and it ends when the entire territory of Karabakh goes to Azerbaijan and the UN officially recognizes the new border - and Armenia and Pashinyan shamefully wash themselves in their complete defeat.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 9 November 2020 22: 17
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            So what to do

            There are many options, there would be a desire ... request
  • Praetorian4
    Praetorian4 9 November 2020 21: 10
    11


    Our equipment is often knocked down by mistake. And probably because nothing happens to anyone for these mistakes. And now nothing will happen, I think.
  • certero
    certero 9 November 2020 21: 11
    -2
    Quote: Tzar
    Should require the issuance of a MANPADS calculation for the court, together with the duty commander. If they take it in money, it will be a shame.

    Why invent? Not a single normal country will give up its military for this. Why do you propose to demand unrealizable conditions in advance?
    1. amat22
      amat22 9 November 2020 23: 55
      0
      naturally
  • faiver
    faiver 9 November 2020 21: 12
    -17 qualifying.
    The incident was essentially provoked by our own command
    Our pilots are truly sorry
    1. Cron
      Cron 9 November 2020 21: 14
      +9
      Quote: faiver
      The incident was essentially provoked by our own command

      Hello, we've arrived.
      1. faiver
        faiver 9 November 2020 21: 24
        -11 qualifying.
        Yes, even if they came, even came, even sailed - The border of two belligerent states where there are no hostilities and then a helicopter starts flying in the dark near the border, what thoughts should the military have on the other side of the border?
        1. Bronekot
          Bronekot 9 November 2020 22: 25
          0
          That before you shoot you need to ask permission from Russia !!
          1. Dave36
            Dave36 10 November 2020 10: 09
            +2
            No one has asked Russia for a long time ... and this is a given ...
    2. Babermetis
      Babermetis 9 November 2020 21: 21
      +4
      Quote: faiver
      The incident was essentially provoked by our own command
      Our pilots are truly sorry


      Scary thoughts in your head. I have the same. The helicopter accompanied the convoy of the Russian army, i.e., a blow was struck at the convoy of the army. Something is muddied and it smells of blood.
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 9 November 2020 21: 34
      +8
      Quote: faiver
      The incident was essentially provoked by our own command

      Another ahejacked one. Can the Russian Ministry of Defense ask Azerbaijan for forgiveness and coordinate flights?
  • Stavros
    Stavros 9 November 2020 21: 12
    +3
    So by mistake, really the mechanic was filming the starry sky. The action is well prepared, as in Syria.
  • surfdude
    surfdude 9 November 2020 21: 13
    +7

    Something like this! Move for the Foreign Ministry!
    1. Bronekot
      Bronekot 9 November 2020 22: 27
      +3
      The move is correct only for the RF Ministry of Defense. Not the Foreign Ministry
  • certero
    certero 9 November 2020 21: 13
    -7
    Quote: RipRap
    Maybe it's time to burn a couple of military warehouses with calibers

    Quote: farm2009
    What is this if not an attack on a CSTO member in general and on Russia in particular?

    Undoubtedly, the incident must be seriously investigated.
    I fully admit that this could be a provocation of the same Armenians.
    The attack on the military is undoubtedly a Belly incident.
  • Peter rybak
    Peter rybak 9 November 2020 21: 13
    -11 qualifying.
    Criminal accident. The guilty, I am sure, will be punished. Condolences to the families and friends of the victims!
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 19
      -2
      Quote: Peter Rybak
      Criminal accident. The guilty, I am sure, will be punished. Condolences to the families and friends of the victims!

      yes yes yes and they shot it by chance and chose the frame by accident
      1. Peter rybak
        Peter rybak 9 November 2020 21: 28
        0
        Quote: opuonmed

        yes yes yes and they shot it by chance and chose the frame by accident

        This is exactly what confuses, considering how this event is unprofitable for Azerbaijan.
      2. Peter rybak
        Peter rybak 9 November 2020 21: 57
        0
        Quote: opuonmed
        Quote: Peter Rybak
        Criminal accident. The guilty, I am sure, will be punished. Condolences to the families and friends of the victims!

        yes yes yes and they shot it by chance and chose the frame by accident

        But on the other hand, I can imagine how happy people in Armenia are now about the death of Russian helicopter pilots. They really hope that Russia will strike back.
  • Cottager452
    Cottager452 9 November 2020 21: 14
    0
    Maybe a mistake, maybe a setup. There are so many interests that have come together that you can't unravel. It is only clear that all parties are against the presence of Russia in the Caucasus and Azerbaijan is no exception.
    This means that provocations will continue, and people will die.
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 20
      0
      Yes, they knock out the Russian Federation from the Caucasus, and here it is simple to show who is the owner, that's all
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 9 November 2020 21: 14
    -11 qualifying.
    Quote: Thrifty
    Though I had the courage not to play up, but to honestly admit this monstrous mistake! I feel sorry for our guys, Honor them and may the Lord accept their souls, and we ourselves will bury the bodies!


    The main thing is not to forget to take tomatoes, heirs of a great empire
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 9 November 2020 21: 22
      -3
      Yes, they killed the last emperor long ago, do you not know?
    2. Sauron80
      Sauron80 9 November 2020 21: 34
      +9
      Armenians, sit back and do not shine, otherwise the ares have become infuriated - Russia owes them something again! Have you recognized Karabakh yourself? You, as an "ally" of Russia, have recognized the Crimea, or the DPR and LPR? What have you done in order to generally think that Russia owes you something? And, I forgot, the flags were burned and shouted "Russia is an occupier". Well so about your business and help you.
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 November 2020 21: 57
      +4
      Quote: Misak Khananyan
      Don't forget the main thing

      Let's figure it out, yeah.
      Quote: Misak Khananyan
      heirs of a great empire

      It is what it is. And yes, envy is a filthy feeling. Although, the stubs of one large state, which are only a geopolitical misunderstanding, are not inherent in another. You, flawed, have not yet been crushed just because the Russian Federation rises behind your back. Although, you can complain to the heads of the French - he will express his support to you and, perhaps, will walk with the crowd through Paris, carrying the sign "I am Armenia".
      Yes, Serge Tankian can write a ballad. Memorial. All over Armenia at once.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 November 2020 21: 14
    +8
    I’m not bloodthirsty, I just want the guilty to be punished so that they don’t take it out on the “switchmen!” our address!
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 9 November 2020 21: 20
      +2
      The Azerbaijanis could turn the arrows to the Armenians, and Russia could be happy with it, but they honestly admitted their mistake and even showed the video.
      The sword does not cut off a guilty head!
  • certero
    certero 9 November 2020 21: 15
    +2
    Quote: Counter Strike
    But this is in a completely different place, and it smacks of the same handwriting as the Russian plane was once shot down by the Turks. Namely, a provocation to drag Russia into the conflict

    If so, then this is indeed a very serious and dangerous provocation. And how to react to it correctly is not clear.
    Although of course it is clear - "accidentally" to shoot down a couple of Azerbaijani planes or drones.
    Such a reaction would be quite adequate. and Azerbaijanis will closely monitor their riflemen
  • Arabfun
    Arabfun 9 November 2020 21: 15
    +3
    The Mi 24 flies very loudly and gives time to prepare a smartphone, anti-aircraft gun or reel in a fishing rod in advance. Can you hear a crowd of people and so that no one has a telephone in our office? The fault of those who are coaxial Ka-50/52 does not fly instead of this old trough, which also falls into the tail rotor or the beam.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 November 2020 21: 17
    11
    1. to strike at the Azerbaijani troops from where they fired ..
    2. express concern
    3. Accept payment.
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 9 November 2020 21: 26
      +1
      Late. If you answer, then immediately it was necessary, in hot pursuit, so to speak.
    2. Cottager452
      Cottager452 9 November 2020 21: 28
      +4
      If such decisions were made, then World War III would have begun long ago ... and ended.
    3. Gofman
      Gofman 9 November 2020 21: 36
      -1
      It fits.
      Hopefully without
      "4. To beat back Shusha and 5 regions for Armenia"?
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 November 2020 21: 39
        0
        No.

        4. Armenia voluntarily enters the Russian Federation. As a region.
        5. The Russian Federation will attend to the genocide of the people of the Russian Federation in Azrbaydzhan and guarantee their safety
        1. Sauron80
          Sauron80 9 November 2020 22: 12
          +2
          And why the heck are they to us, forgive my French? They wanted independence - let them scoop up a full spoon!
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 9 November 2020 22: 17
            0
            Well, there is no extra land.
        2. vitvit123
          vitvit123 9 November 2020 22: 22
          +1
          Excuse me, why do we need Armenia? She needs to be fed ... with our economy, what are they to us? Belarus, part of Ukraine, maybe Kazakhstan, but not Armenia!
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 9 November 2020 22: 24
            -2
            No need to feed. There cx production .... 3 million lives. In the Russian Federation, the population is dying off. Refill with immigrants (Russians) from Asia
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 10 November 2020 07: 30
              0
              It's amazing that you yourself believe that there will be no need to feed the republic .. I’m just thinking, but that they themselves do not now live independently at the expense of agriculture ..
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 10 November 2020 07: 33
                0
                You can live off cx ..... but they have a blockade from all sides. There are different schemes ... occurrences. I am not a supporter of this. Simply, if you help, then you need to get something in hand.
                1. vitvit123
                  vitvit123 10 November 2020 07: 51
                  0
                  I am convinced that the republic will never survive at the expense of agriculture. Even then Belarus lives by injections into the economy from outside, and poor Armenia ... is nonsense.
      2. Azimuth
        Azimuth 9 November 2020 22: 15
        0
        Then we will be shot down a dozen more Mi-24s and we will have to fight back for the Armenians in addition to Baku, and even donate from above Adler, Sochi, Armavir and Krasnodar.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 9 November 2020 21: 17
    -1
    soon and Biden will go to the throne, uh RF, they will start shimming in all shelves
  • Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 9 November 2020 21: 19
    -8
    Quote: Peter Rybak
    Quote: Misak Khananyan
    It's like killing a person and then telling his relatives: “I'm sorry that happened.

    Do you mean the murder in Volgograd?



    All the same, it won't reach your Buratinya's head, what does the heiress of the GREAT EMPIRE mean and what does the honor of the uniform mean
    1. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 9 November 2020 21: 55
      +5
      Quote: Misak Hananyan

      All the same, it won't reach your Buratinya's head, what does the heiress of the GREAT EMPIRE mean and what does the honor of the uniform mean

      I am a reserve officer in the Russian army and I know very well what an officer's honor is. Do you know? Those who send their mothers, sisters, daughters to the front? You fucked up the war, no matter what. I have no doubt that the death of the helicopter was not without you either. Enough here to drive a blizzard about the heiress of a great empire and some other crap. How do you know what an empire is? When you lived in the USSR, did you respect the Russians or other peoples? Why did they suddenly remember about the empire?
      The fact that the helicopter was shot down made you Armenians happy. You all over the country rejoice in the death of the helicopter and the Russian soldiers. Like, right now, Azerbaijan will get what it deserves. I know you.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 10 November 2020 09: 06
        +1
        The USSR is over .... and relations with neighbors must be progmatic ..... got something, give something back. And the Armenians need to understand that their environment is not the most favorable. Especially when protesting against the Russian base
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 10 November 2020 04: 17
      0
      Tell your fshatsky slave about the honor of your little magpie.
  • zwlad
    zwlad 9 November 2020 21: 20
    +4
    It looks like a test if we try or not.
    1. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 9 November 2020 21: 45
      -1
      And before this time, 30 times they did not check and were not convinced - that we will go to bed?
  • Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 9 November 2020 21: 21
    +4
    Get lost and will continue to talk about "unparalleled hypersound" ... am
  • Lontus
    Lontus 9 November 2020 21: 21
    +4
    Will wipe out as always
  • certero
    certero 9 November 2020 21: 23
    -2
    Quote: Azimuth
    Or we accept an apology and compensation.
    Or or, there are no other options.

    Absolutely a bunch of other options. Shooting down a couple of Azerbaijani planes or drones by mistake would be a great demonstration.
    1. Rusik.S
      Rusik.S 9 November 2020 21: 25
      +8
      Forget it. There will be no demonstration. For this you need to have eggs
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 November 2020 21: 49
        -1
        It makes no sense to demonstrate anything - an apology has been made and accepted, we are waiting for compensation.
        1. Rusik.S
          Rusik.S 9 November 2020 22: 01
          +1
          If, for example, Palestine also shot down Israeli planes, would the Jews wait for compensation? Or would the United States express concern?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 November 2020 22: 19
            -1
            Or would the United States express concern? Judging by the recent events in Iraq with the shelling of their bases with the beginning of Iran and then the devil knows who every week, yes, the United States will express concern.
  • BAI
    BAI 9 November 2020 21: 23
    10
    Now it is worth waiting for the comments of the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Foreign Ministry on what happened - I mean Moscow's reaction to the recognition by the Azerbaijani side.

    Nothing will happen. As always. M. b. will agree that Azerbaijan will let gas through the Russian pipeline and will not build its own gas pipeline, but this is unlikely. So nothing will happen.
  • certero
    certero 9 November 2020 21: 24
    -3
    Quote: Zaurbek
    strike at the Azerbaijani troops from where they fired ..
    2. express concern
    3. Accept payment.

    Quite a working option.
  • Berg berg
    Berg berg 9 November 2020 21: 27
    +9
    Russia has every right to destroy the military base of Azerbaijan with peace of mind and to apologize, like the missile also arrived by accident!
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    2. Berg berg
      Berg berg 23 November 2020 14: 29
      0
      Fortunately, Aliyev turned out to be smarter than some nationalists and made the right decision! Russia Foreva!
  • Stepan53274
    Stepan53274 9 November 2020 21: 29
    -7
    The helicopter flew 1-2 km from the border of the countries leading the hostilities, where were the 102nd base command in Armenia looking?
  • Ragnarok
    Ragnarok 9 November 2020 21: 31
    +7
    We are almost ready to wipe our flag - can you imagine such a situation with the Americans or the Chinese?
    1. Gofman
      Gofman 9 November 2020 23: 19
      -1
      Quote: Ragnarok
      can you imagine such a situation with the Americans or the Chinese?

      Libya, 2012 - brutal murder of the American ambassador and embassy staff. Belgrade, 1999 - US airstrike against the Chinese embassy. Iraq, January 2020 - Iranian missile attack on a US military base. Imagine.
      With flags - absolutely nothing: you did not know about these events at all, and if you knew and still remember about them, then you did not associate them with the state flag.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 9 November 2020 21: 31
    -1
    Quote: Ham
    a fault confessed is half redressed...
    compensation unfastened, repent - and forget ...
    shot down not on purpose it's obvious
    well, press down azerov in russia so that they can understand it more carefully

    Yes, this is understandable to a child, but that is not the point, we need to look at what is more profitable for us at a particular moment and for the future.
    Well, to understand the reasons for any, it really hurts everything and a lot of "accidents".